Casement Park in line for major overhaul - 40,000 all seater Stadium.

[RedHand88]

Sensible post by UUP Cllr.

https://twitter.com/mclaren_linzi/status/1762098575566135753?t=M8EW_Gf2e2tL6RxBZBGiIQ&s=19

This lady is what the future of politics should be. Fair play to her.

Deleted, what did it say? Was she speaking too much common sense?

She was. basically that she sees the reason for it. She deleted the 1st in the thread, but the other tweets under remain

https://twitter.com/mclaren_linzi/status/1762098577327771767

Very pragmatic of her. No doubt she'll get blowback from the troglodytes.

[JPGJOHNNYG]

Lundy

[seafoid]

Terracing in this day and age should be very limited. When the Taylor report was implemented in England clubs reported a huge increase in families and obviously corporate is a huge element now as well. We should have a stadium that can offer this option in the North.

In what sport ? NI soccer and GAA wouldn't be known for all seater.
The cost per ticket will have to be reasonable as well. Croke Park is very expensive for ordinary fans for the big matches. The North isn't exactly fluirseach.

[trailer]

Be interesting to see what "our side" has to say once they see there will be no GAA museum and the field will be too short for GAA and need a retrofit after the Euros. lets keep our powder dry for now...

[armaghniac]

Be interesting to see what "our side" has to say once they see there will be no GAA museum and the field will be too short for GAA and need a retrofit after the Euros. lets keep our powder dry for now...

There is no GAA museum in Clones, Breffni park, Pairc Esler, Athletic grounds, etc. That is not central, apply for some funding later to open a museum.
Field shorter would be a question of what is needed to restore it.

[trailer]

Be interesting to see what "our side" has to say once they see there will be no GAA museum and the field will be too short for GAA and need a retrofit after the Euros. lets keep our powder dry for now...

There is no GAA museum in Clones, Breffni park, Pairc Esler, Athletic grounds, etc. That is not central, apply for some funding later to open a museum.
Field shorter would be a question of what is needed to restore it.

Here I agree. There won't handball alleys either and to me that is fine to get it over the line. But wait and see how GAA ones react. Sure look at this thread, lick of paint, cover an oul stand, powerwash the terraces, it'll do rightly.

[Rossfan]

If the Brits don't come up with a load of their £s is it:-
No Euro soccer thingy in the IFA's territory
A no frills Stadium as far as the money available allows for Gaelic games only
No €50m from the 26 Cos taxpayers

[marty34]

Sensible post by UUP Cllr.

https://twitter.com/mclaren_linzi/status/1762098575566135753?t=M8EW_Gf2e2tL6RxBZBGiIQ&s=19

Is it deleted now?

[p3427977]

Sensible post by UUP Cllr.

https://twitter.com/mclaren_linzi/status/1762098575566135753?t=M8EW_Gf2e2tL6RxBZBGiIQ&s=19

Is it deleted now?

Just the first post for some reason. Very odd.

I'm fking sick of all the anti Casement stuff going about. Pure sectarianism.

[Sportacus]

There are quite a few posters here with an attitude that the British Government 'will' pay out, and Casement 'will' be built.

Where is that confidence coming from?  As far as I can see the Ulster Council can't produce any evidence of a funding commitment.  Did Chris Heaton Harris tell them something over a scone, sure that's worth nothing with a Tory Minister.

It's all about leverage.  The Assembly is back so no real leverage there. The stand-off over the £113 million doesn't help because not only do Stormont not want to raise that, they also want another £100 mill from Treasury for Casement, well most parties do - the DUP inevitably having fun muddying the waters. And what if someone in Government is quietly scoping out a Plan B stadium for the Euros, you would think that's a prudent thing to do to give their Ministers options.

I can't figure out how the Ulster Council is in a strong position here.

[Dreadnought]

There are quite a few posters here with an attitude that the British Government 'will' pay out, and Casement 'will' be built.

Where is that confidence coming from?  As far as I can see the Ulster Council can't produce any evidence of a funding commitment.  Did Chris Heaton Harris tell them something over a scone, sure that's worth nothing with a Tory Minister.

It's all about leverage.  The Assembly is back so no real leverage there. The stand-off over the £113 million doesn't help because not only do Stormont not want to raise that, they also want another £100 mill from Treasury for Casement, well most parties do - the DUP inevitably having fun muddying the waters. And what if someone in Government is quietly scoping out a Plan B stadium for the Euros, you would think that's a prudent thing to do to give their Ministers options.

I can't figure out how the Ulster Council is in a strong position here.

Think it'll be more down to Westminster than Stormont. Heaton-Harris was quite ambivalent and non committal last week in talks on various things which included Casement. But then next day Varadkar announced the 40 million amongst other things. There will be face saving here. They know they can't do nothing now, with Shared Ireland initiative and their own obligations. They also have funds set aside and a project plan both for the Euros and investment in NI. I know Unionists will happily cut off their nose to save their face, but UK govt is another thing and if it didn't happen there would be uproar. They also know what money it'd bring in just by hosting it, and how it pays a vast chunk back immediately. I just can't see how they can let this one slide politically over 100 million

[p3427977]

As far as I can see the Ulster Council can't produce any evidence of a funding commitment.  Did Chris Heaton Harris tell them something over a scone, sure that's worth nothing with a Tory Minister.

Where is the requirement that Ulster GAA must provide this? If they've been told it's being funded why the need to tell us?

[Duine Inteacht Eile]

I think Heaton Harris has rowed back a bit since his initial commitment but I'd be surprised if they didn't pony up.
That said, we're in the dark as regards the actual figures at play here. Perhaps, like the GAA, the British govt had a bottom line figure they weren't intending to budge on.

Regardless of funding, where are we on time?
When do we expect to see an appointed contractor?
Will it be ready for Euro 2028 (2027)? It must be very tight and is it likely to continue without any other delays?
What would no Euro 2028 mean for the stadium?

[p3427977]

For all the talk of the work starting last week the social club is still open and nothing has happened yet.

[seafoid]

Jarlath Burns was interviewed on RTE Radio 1 today https://www.rte.ie/radio/radio1/clips/22360753/

He said that the GAA will not be putting in any more money because its original plan was not accepted and the Euros were added on later and if people want the Euros to go ahead in West Belfast they will have to pony up . Sin é.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkW2vEuYa1o