Casement Park in line for major overhaul - 40,000 all seater Stadium.

[RadioGAAGAA]

Great idea. Windsor all covered all seated, Ravenhill something similar. Casement as suggested above. Croppy lie down

Something similar to all-covered all-seated... except of course Ravenhill has 3 sides covered seats, 1 side partially-covered terrace and 3 sides uncovered terrace. 

[Jeepers Creepers]

Tell ye what. If it does get built after all this hullabaloo and lies empty all ready round? Suppose this puts serious pressure on those who own it to use it and not just for the Wolftones from the grave farewell tour 2035.

[snoopdog]

Tell ye what. If it does get built after all this hullabaloo and lies empty all ready round? Suppose this puts serious pressure on those who own it to use it and not just for the Wolftones from the grave farewell tour 2035.

It will lie empty most of the year unless there is a roof on it. . If it werent for the euros something similar to PUC wouldve been sufficient.

[AustinPowers]

Tell ye what. If it does get built after all this hullabaloo and lies empty all ready round? Suppose this puts serious pressure on those who own it to use it and not just for the Wolftones from the grave farewell tour 2035.

You could always  put on a Wolfe Tones hologram tour. The lads could still make a  few quid while   Not fit to tour anymore

[trailer]

Alright then non lunatic. What's your grand plan? Corrigan Park forever?

Already said it many, many times on the thread. But for your benefit.

- Replace the old main stand with a new one, covered seating. All the facilities they could ever want could be placed underneath this as the new structure could be far more significantly hollowed out relative to old, and the back of it could be extended over the road to add further floor space. No big difference to light on houses to the West of Casement as the existing stand already blocks it.
- Stick a roof over the (renewed) terrace on the far side of the pitch. The back end of this structure can hold the badly needed amenities. It'd be relatively low profile though.
- Renew the terraces at both ends of the pitch. Don't cover them. If there is sufficient demand - as determined by polls, one of the ends could be uncovered seats.

Capacity of 30-40k for the one or two times a year it may be needed - which would be during the summer. Comfortably sufficient covered capacity for during the autumn/winter/spring. 3 or 4 significantly different price tiers.

Basically the stadium that the GAA needs at a cost that will benefit all in the long-run.

Instead we're getting an expensive to build, expensive to maintain milestone, which will come with astronomical ticket prices.


But hey - the Ulster Council might be able to hold a few concerts. That's what this is about right? Otherwise it makes no sense to build what they are trying to build.

You've no ambition. The GAA wasn't built on Debbie Downers like yourself

[armaghniac]

Tell ye what. If it does get built after all this hullabaloo and lies empty all ready round? Suppose this puts serious pressure on those who own it to use it and not just for the Wolftones from the grave farewell tour 2035.

It will lie empty most of the year unless there is a roof on it. . If it werent for the euros something similar to PUC wouldve been sufficient.

It would be interesting to know if there is any inflatable roof technology that could provide a room, this would  game changer.

[JimStynes]

Alright then non lunatic. What's your grand plan? Corrigan Park forever?

Already said it many, many times on the thread. But for your benefit.

- Replace the old main stand with a new one, covered seating. All the facilities they could ever want could be placed underneath this as the new structure could be far more significantly hollowed out relative to old, and the back of it could be extended over the road to add further floor space. No big difference to light on houses to the West of Casement as the existing stand already blocks it.
- Stick a roof over the (renewed) terrace on the far side of the pitch. The back end of this structure can hold the badly needed amenities. It'd be relatively low profile though.
- Renew the terraces at both ends of the pitch. Don't cover them. If there is sufficient demand - as determined by polls, one of the ends could be uncovered seats.

Capacity of 30-40k for the one or two times a year it may be needed - which would be during the summer. Comfortably sufficient covered capacity for during the autumn/winter/spring. 3 or 4 significantly different price tiers.

Basically the stadium that the GAA needs at a cost that will benefit all in the long-run.

Instead we're getting an expensive to build, expensive to maintain milestone, which will come with astronomical ticket prices.


But hey - the Ulster Council might be able to hold a few concerts. That's what this is about right? Otherwise it makes no sense to build what they are trying to build.

Jesus christ. So throw an aul stand up and give her a powerhose and that'll do her for another 50 years.

[Orior]

Jarlath at 8:45am - I will recommend that the GAA don't increase their money offer for Casement.

Nolan at 9:10am - GAA refuse to increase their money for Casement

[armaghniac]

Jarlath at 8:45am - I will recommend that the GAA don't increase their money offer for Casement.

No doubt he has other uses for the money, but the GAA played a big role in the delay for this project. I said above that they should prorate their contribution with inflation in order to pressure the NI authorities to do likewise.
The GAA need to get a stadium for Ulster out of this process. There is a danger that they will not, with the excessive cost, the sectarian minister, and fifth column in the GAA who just want a free stadium for a poorly supported Antrim.

[imtommygunn]

No one mentions very much how big a balls the ulster council have made of this. It has been an almighty mess of a project from day one and the end not in sight yet.

[lurganblue]

Well done Leo

It is pretty generous all things considered.
In the spirit of generosity I think the GAA should increase their contribution to reflect inflation since the original budget and put maximum pressure on the British.

That seems like the right thing to do.

Jarlath on the ball soon

Maybe not

[LeoMc]

As Newton Emerson has said, London is committed to the stadium but negotiating the split of the bill.
Dublin paid up to leave everyone else to haggle over the balance. Stormont has their £63m on the table. The GAA, Ulster Council, Antrim GAA need to state their redline, and perhaps that is what Jarlath is doing, so that the remaining stakeholders (British Government, IFA, FA) know what they need to pay.
In an earlier post I stated that the GAA needs to come up to with a design to suit the current budget to show they have an alternative,  that the British Government, FA and IFA need casement more than we need the debt.

[armaghniac]

As Newton Emerson has said, London is committed to the stadium but negotiating the split of the bill.
Dublin paid up to leave everyone else to haggle over the balance. Stormont has their £63m on the table. The GAA, Ulster Council, Antrim GAA need to state their redline, and perhaps that is what Jarlath is doing, so that the remaining stakeholders (British Government, IFA, FA) know what they need to pay.
In an earlier post I stated that the GAA needs to come up to with a design to suit the current budget to show they have an alternative,  that the British Government, FA and IFA need casement more than we need the debt.

The problem with any redesign is that it would never be completed on time for the Euros and then why would London want to give anything?

[trailer]

As Newton Emerson has said, London is committed to the stadium but negotiating the split of the bill.
Dublin paid up to leave everyone else to haggle over the balance. Stormont has their £63m on the table. The GAA, Ulster Council, Antrim GAA need to state their redline, and perhaps that is what Jarlath is doing, so that the remaining stakeholders (British Government, IFA, FA) know what they need to pay.
In an earlier post I stated that the GAA needs to come up to with a design to suit the current budget to show they have an alternative,  that the British Government, FA and IFA need casement more than we need the debt.

The problem with any redesign is that it would never be completed on time for the Euros and then why would London want to give anything?

Yeah redesign or a significant one anyway is out of the question. UEFA land this week I think. They'll want to see some progress and cast iron assurances or they'll demand a different stadium in a different location.
London need to pony up or it is just another example in a long list of broken promises and the people are really growing tired of successive British governments promising and not delivering.

[AustinPowers]

No one mentions very much how big a balls the ulster council have made of this. It has been an almighty mess of a project from day one and the end not in sight yet.

There was a  touch of the Garth Brooks 5 nighter  with their original  stadium  plan

I think  the GAA thought , like Garth, that there would be no issues