Casement Park in line for major overhaul - 40,000 all seater Stadium.

[Milltown Row2]

Brolly called Clones the Bangladesh of Ulster.
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Brolly called Clones the Bangladesh of Ulster.

Clones ran the Ulster final no matter how bad things got in the north. It always happened even during the worst years.

That's great information. I'm so glad I got the chance to read that!

Holy f**k!

[Derryman forever]

I think it's time to step back and re-calibrate. There has been negativity around casement from the start, and my own views have changed over the years.
I think any criticism of the ulster council has to be tempered by the fact that they were breaking new ground on a mammoth project and experience and knowledge were thin on the ground .the lack of consideration of residents was a big weakness , and unfortunately has given the whole project a bad rep.
However there is no doubt that an anti-GAA agenda has been pro-actively negative from the start. This anti-GAA element, incredibly, is not just from unionists.

Genuine concerns must be addressed but there are overwhelming positives to this project:
For everybody including Stormont government : economic spin-off and feel good factor for Belfast with big games, events , and impressive aesthetics .
For GAA: second best stadium in second biggest city. Worldwide recognition , income generation
For Antrim: a state of the art venue for their games and their promotion of the gAA

The GAA have secured 50k from Southern government , and will perhaps increase its own contribution via internal and external funding to make it happen .

The precedent has been set by its ambition in re-building Croke Park 30 years ago, benefitting the GAA and everybody else in terms of economic /tax benefits .


The British government and stormont will have to stump up a significant sum but they'll get it back in droves in terms of economic and social benefit.
The initial planned outlay must be significantly increased due to inflation and cost of labour and materials , alone .

Those of an "Irish" background should be careful not to support vexatious concerns from anti-gaa , anti-Irish sources .

Casement must happen because:
1. Genuine Concerns can be addressed.
2. Antrim GAA people deserve it
3. Ulster GAA people deserve it
4. West belfast deserves it
5. Belfast and the neglected 9 counties of Ulster deserve it.
6. The Euros has presented an opportunity
7. Shared future by benefitting all
8.  Not allowing further DUP bullying and lack of generosity to hold us back

Hear hear.
Well summed up.

[trueblue1234]

I think it's time to step back and re-calibrate. There has been negativity around casement from the start, and my own views have changed over the years.
I think any criticism of the ulster council has to be tempered by the fact that they were breaking new ground on a mammoth project and experience and knowledge were thin on the ground .the lack of consideration of residents was a big weakness , and unfortunately has given the whole project a bad rep.
However there is no doubt that an anti-GAA agenda has been pro-actively negative from the start. This anti-GAA element, incredibly, is not just from unionists.

Genuine concerns must be addressed but there are overwhelming positives to this project:
For everybody including Stormont government : economic spin-off and feel good factor for Belfast with big games, events , and impressive aesthetics .
For GAA: second best stadium in second biggest city. Worldwide recognition , income generation
For Antrim: a state of the art venue for their games and their promotion of the gAA

The GAA have secured 50k from Southern government , and will perhaps increase its own contribution via internal and external funding to make it happen .

The precedent has been set by its ambition in re-building Croke Park 30 years ago, benefitting the GAA and everybody else in terms of economic /tax benefits .


The British government and stormont will have to stump up a significant sum but they'll get it back in droves in terms of economic and social benefit.
The initial planned outlay must be significantly increased due to inflation and cost of labour and materials , alone .

Those of an "Irish" background should be careful not to support vexatious concerns from anti-gaa , anti-Irish sources .

Casement must happen because:
1. Genuine Concerns can be addressed.
2. Antrim GAA people deserve it
3. Ulster GAA people deserve it
4. West belfast deserves it
5. Belfast and the neglected 9 counties of Ulster deserve it.
6. The Euros has presented an opportunity
7. Shared future by benefitting all
8.  Not allowing further DUP bullying and lack of generosity to hold us back

If only they had someone in the north who had experience of this......

[Sportacus]

Here's a question, what economic spin off has there been from Windsor Park?  People drive in, watch a match, and go again. And how many concerts has it hosted?  It's a good stadium, but I don't see any regeneration as a result.
And as we all know Pairc ui Caoimh can't make the numbers work.

People are talking big about Casement revitalising the local economy, but where is the hard evidence, and I'm not talking press releases.

They had an amateur plan at the beginning, have let the cost spin wildly out of control, and Antrim were literally robbed in the process. It's nothing but an ego trip at this stage.

[snoopdog]

Here's a question, what economic spin off has there been from Windsor Park?  People drive in, watch a match, and go again. And how many concerts has it hosted?  It's a good stadium, but I don't see any regeneration as a result.
And as we all know Pairc ui Caoimh can't make the numbers work.

People are talking big about Casement revitalising the local economy, but where is the hard evidence, and I'm not talking press releases.

They had an amateur plan at the beginning, have let the cost spin wildly out of control, and Antrim were literally robbed in the process. It's nothing but an ego trip at this stage.

Windsor prob isn't big enough to bother with concerts.

[Duine Inteacht Eile]

Casement must happen because:
1. Genuine Concerns can be addressed.
2. Antrim GAA people deserve it
3. Ulster GAA people deserve it
4. West belfast deserves it
5. Belfast and the neglected 9 counties of Ulster deserve it.
6. The Euros has presented an opportunity
7. Shared future by benefitting all
8.  Not allowing further DUP bullying and lack of generosity to hold us back

Is this not just guff?

For example, you say that Antrim and west Belfast deserve it. Why?

And when you say "deserve it", do you mean having their county ground  removed from them with zero reward?

[Sandy Hill]

There's something special about going to an Ulster Final in Clones!

[Rossfan]

Is there still VAT on sports tickets in the 6 North Eastern Counties?

[Derryman forever]

There's something special about going to an Ulster Final in Clones!

I agree, but its still a pain in the hole, metaphorically and Literally.
Maybe its the masochist in me.

[armaghniac]

There's something special about going to an Ulster Final in Clones!

I agree, but its still a pain in the hole, metaphorically and Literally.
Maybe its the masochist in me.

No, if you were a masochist you'd enjoy a pain in the hole.

[Armagh18]

There's something special about going to an Ulster Final in Clones!

no matter how big a kip it is theres nothing like the buzz of it.

[Wildweasel74]

Tickets will be as dear as All-Ireland Semis

[bennydorano]

Never liked Casement, couldn't care less if it falls through.

[ONeill]

I've never had a bad experience in Clones and it's still a place of magical memories for me. Especially the blade from Killyleagh in '94.

[An Watcher]

100% agree with these sentiments.  I hope casement is built but it'll be nowhere near as good as a day at clones.  The craic in the town, the walk up the hill, the bars, fantastic.  As a Tyrone fan maybe I won't experience another ulster final there.  Maybe next year we'll get favourable draws like armagh have got recently