Casement Park in line for major overhaul - 40,000 all seater Stadium.

[Milltown Row2]

I've lost the will to live with people in general over the poxy stadium...it's really frustrating TBH. This Board is a bit annoying at times but wouldn't hold a candle to the dim wits on-line like Facebook etc when an ex footballer or some idiot who thinks they have a voice comment on how bad this stadium is for football (it's actually soccer ya twat).

Anyway to clear a few things up...
The funding is for Casement only (no other venue so please stop recommending other grounds)
The stadium will be built regardless of Euro soccer competition. (so please stop thinking the Euros are building the stadium)
The stadium is for GAA and we are decent people who are prepared to lend it to you for a few weeks...that's all, a lend and then go back to your own cesspit.
We don't care about local soccer and this stadium has nothing to do with grass roots soccer...WTF.
The stadium planned is class looking and is perfect for Ulster finals and other top games, if I could build Croke Park there I would just to run them bitter, twisted, sectarian, racist Bastids nose in it as they would rather die than see this stadium built...Right i'm away for a cup of tea now that I've got some of my anger out (should be a beer)

Correctamundo.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again, especially for those slow learners in Connacht. (Insert stepbrothers meme) I don't give a f**k if this stadium costs £500m we will build it and the taxpayer will pay for it.

It's Sunningdale for soccer fans

The North doesn't have the infrastructure of a modern state. The motorways are all Protestant. So there is a motorway near Casement but it doesn't go anywhere near Derry or Tyrone. Sporting infrastructure in the regional capital was neglected for decades. One of the major political parties is boycotting the parliament because of a favourable trade deal. You have to start there. The North is a basket case. This will eventually lead to reunification.

Most of the arguments concerning Casement were aired on page 1. In 2010.  Nobody mentioned the Euros on Page 1.  The Euros came to the party very late. A nice distraction.

According to the BBC the project has been hampered by "political instability", which is part of the Ulster fry.

Another project that is also popular on the Board (46 pages) was announced in summer 2009 and has been hampered by "political instability" and inflating budgets . It has never been started . Plus it goes through Tyrone and Derry. It is probably more important than hosting a few soccer matches. It's existential .

http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=12534.0

But carry on lads

So these motorways that only go through Protestant places..

Talk me through that..

M2 bar Glenshane pass is generally motorway or dual carriage way all the way to Derry! The M1 will lead you to Fermanagh on either dual carriage way or motorway.

If on the Westlink I can go all the way to Cork without hitting traffic lights!

Said earlier,  stay off the crack pipe!

I think the only basket case I know is some balloon from Galway

[trailer]

I've lost the will to live with people in general over the poxy stadium...it's really frustrating TBH. This Board is a bit annoying at times but wouldn't hold a candle to the dim wits on-line like Facebook etc when an ex footballer or some idiot who thinks they have a voice comment on how bad this stadium is for football (it's actually soccer ya twat).

Anyway to clear a few things up...
The funding is for Casement only (no other venue so please stop recommending other grounds)
The stadium will be built regardless of Euro soccer competition. (so please stop thinking the Euros are building the stadium)
The stadium is for GAA and we are decent people who are prepared to lend it to you for a few weeks...that's all, a lend and then go back to your own cesspit.
We don't care about local soccer and this stadium has nothing to do with grass roots soccer...WTF.
The stadium planned is class looking and is perfect for Ulster finals and other top games, if I could build Croke Park there I would just to run them bitter, twisted, sectarian, racist Bastids nose in it as they would rather die than see this stadium built...Right i'm away for a cup of tea now that I've got some of my anger out (should be a beer)

Correctamundo.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again, especially for those slow learners in Connacht. (Insert stepbrothers meme) I don't give a f**k if this stadium costs £500m we will build it and the taxpayer will pay for it.

It's Sunningdale for soccer fans

The North doesn't have the infrastructure of a modern state. The motorways are all Protestant. So there is a motorway near Casement but it doesn't go anywhere near Derry or Tyrone. Sporting infrastructure in the regional capital was neglected for decades. One of the major political parties is boycotting the parliament because of a favourable trade deal. You have to start there. The North is a basket case. This will eventually lead to reunification.

Most of the arguments concerning Casement were aired on page 1. In 2010.  Nobody mentioned the Euros on Page 1.  The Euros came to the party very late. A nice distraction.

According to the BBC the project has been hampered by "political instability", which is part of the Ulster fry.

Another project that is also popular on the Board (46 pages) was announced in summer 2009 and has been hampered by "political instability" and inflating budgets . It has never been started . Plus it goes through Tyrone and Derry. It is probably more important than hosting a few soccer matches. It's existential .

http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=12534.0

But carry on lads

So these motorways that only go through Protestant places..

Talk me through that..

M2 bar Glenshane pass is generally motorway or dual carriage way all the way to Derry! The M1 will lead you to Fermanagh on either dual carriage way or motorway.

If on the Westlink I can go all the way to Cork without hitting traffic lights!

Said earlier,  stay off the crack pipe!

I think the only basket case I know is some balloon from Galway

The M1 nor dual carriageway goes all the way to Fermanagh.

Belfast people think the world ends at Broadway.

[Armagh18]

Does it really matter where the f**king motor way goes. Theres good road rail and bus connections to Belfast. Theres fuckall to Clones.

[seafoid]

I've lost the will to live with people in general over the poxy stadium...it's really frustrating TBH. This Board is a bit annoying at times but wouldn't hold a candle to the dim wits on-line like Facebook etc when an ex footballer or some idiot who thinks they have a voice comment on how bad this stadium is for football (it's actually soccer ya twat).

Anyway to clear a few things up...
The funding is for Casement only (no other venue so please stop recommending other grounds)
The stadium will be built regardless of Euro soccer competition. (so please stop thinking the Euros are building the stadium)
The stadium is for GAA and we are decent people who are prepared to lend it to you for a few weeks...that's all, a lend and then go back to your own cesspit.
We don't care about local soccer and this stadium has nothing to do with grass roots soccer...WTF.
The stadium planned is class looking and is perfect for Ulster finals and other top games, if I could build Croke Park there I would just to run them bitter, twisted, sectarian, racist Bastids nose in it as they would rather die than see this stadium built...Right i'm away for a cup of tea now that I've got some of my anger out (should be a beer)

Correctamundo.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again, especially for those slow learners in Connacht. (Insert stepbrothers meme) I don't give a f**k if this stadium costs £500m we will build it and the taxpayer will pay for it.

It's Sunningdale for soccer fans

The North doesn't have the infrastructure of a modern state. The motorways are all Protestant. So there is a motorway near Casement but it doesn't go anywhere near Derry or Tyrone. Sporting infrastructure in the regional capital was neglected for decades. One of the major political parties is boycotting the parliament because of a favourable trade deal. You have to start there. The North is a basket case. This will eventually lead to reunification.

Most of the arguments concerning Casement were aired on page 1. In 2010.  Nobody mentioned the Euros on Page 1.  The Euros came to the party very late. A nice distraction.

According to the BBC the project has been hampered by "political instability", which is part of the Ulster fry.

Another project that is also popular on the Board (46 pages) was announced in summer 2009 and has been hampered by "political instability" and inflating budgets . It has never been started . Plus it goes through Tyrone and Derry. It is probably more important than hosting a few soccer matches. It's existential .

http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=12534.0

But carry on lads

So these motorways that only go through Protestant places..

Talk me through that..

M2 bar Glenshane pass is generally motorway or dual carriage way all the way to Derry! The M1 will lead you to Fermanagh on either dual carriage way or motorway.

If on the Westlink I can go all the way to Cork without hitting traffic lights!

Said earlier,  stay off the crack pipe!

I think the only basket case I know is some balloon from Galway

Dual carriageway is not motorway.  Average speeds are lower.

There is  no motorway to Omagh, Derry, Enniskillen or the Border.
https://sluggerotoole.com/2015/07/27/the-west-wants-in-why-are-roads-so-poor-west-of-the-bann/

Also the railways are highly correlated with religion up there.

There are 51 stations East of the Bann and 3 West of the Bann.
It looks like Protestant infrastructure for a Protestant people.

The North will need a Marshall plan after reunification.

[Milltown Row2]

I've lost the will to live with people in general over the poxy stadium...it's really frustrating TBH. This Board is a bit annoying at times but wouldn't hold a candle to the dim wits on-line like Facebook etc when an ex footballer or some idiot who thinks they have a voice comment on how bad this stadium is for football (it's actually soccer ya twat).

Anyway to clear a few things up...
The funding is for Casement only (no other venue so please stop recommending other grounds)
The stadium will be built regardless of Euro soccer competition. (so please stop thinking the Euros are building the stadium)
The stadium is for GAA and we are decent people who are prepared to lend it to you for a few weeks...that's all, a lend and then go back to your own cesspit.
We don't care about local soccer and this stadium has nothing to do with grass roots soccer...WTF.
The stadium planned is class looking and is perfect for Ulster finals and other top games, if I could build Croke Park there I would just to run them bitter, twisted, sectarian, racist Bastids nose in it as they would rather die than see this stadium built...Right i'm away for a cup of tea now that I've got some of my anger out (should be a beer)

Correctamundo.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again, especially for those slow learners in Connacht. (Insert stepbrothers meme) I don't give a f**k if this stadium costs £500m we will build it and the taxpayer will pay for it.

It's Sunningdale for soccer fans

The North doesn't have the infrastructure of a modern state. The motorways are all Protestant. So there is a motorway near Casement but it doesn't go anywhere near Derry or Tyrone. Sporting infrastructure in the regional capital was neglected for decades. One of the major political parties is boycotting the parliament because of a favourable trade deal. You have to start there. The North is a basket case. This will eventually lead to reunification.

Most of the arguments concerning Casement were aired on page 1. In 2010.  Nobody mentioned the Euros on Page 1.  The Euros came to the party very late. A nice distraction.

According to the BBC the project has been hampered by "political instability", which is part of the Ulster fry.

Another project that is also popular on the Board (46 pages) was announced in summer 2009 and has been hampered by "political instability" and inflating budgets . It has never been started . Plus it goes through Tyrone and Derry. It is probably more important than hosting a few soccer matches. It's existential .

http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=12534.0

But carry on lads

So these motorways that only go through Protestant places..

Talk me through that..

M2 bar Glenshane pass is generally motorway or dual carriage way all the way to Derry! The M1 will lead you to Fermanagh on either dual carriage way or motorway.

If on the Westlink I can go all the way to Cork without hitting traffic lights!

Said earlier,  stay off the crack pipe!

I think the only basket case I know is some balloon from Galway

Dual carriageway is not motorway.  Average speeds are lower.

There is  no motorway to Omagh, Derry, Enniskillen or the Border.
https://sluggerotoole.com/2015/07/27/the-west-wants-in-why-are-roads-so-poor-west-of-the-bann/

Also the railways are highly correlated with religion up there.

There are 51 stations East of the Bann and 3 West of the Bann.
It looks like Protestant infrastructure for a Protestant people.

The North will need a Marshall plan after reunification.

Dual carriage ways for 90% of the way are 70 mph you muppet. Same speed, just in case you don't know the speed laws

So now we are on trains? Christ give it up..

Go and turn off your internet, give that pea brain a rest for a bit

[imtommygunn]

The m1 literally goes to Tyrone 

[imtommygunn]

That's karma for giving us Arlene foster 

[Milltown Row2]

I'd question the motorway or dual carriageway to Fermanagh part though.

I'm not sure exactly what the significance of the debate is but it's enough for fake news to be pulled out it seems.

20 miles

Sure once they do the bypass around fivemile town it'll be grand

[imtommygunn]

The Gaa, ulster Gaa specifically, have made an awful balls of this project. I often wonder was the head at the time using it to further his own cause and then legged it elsewhere when the going got tough. Antrim Gaa should also not have handed it over until something concrete was in place.

One of the issues is that it has become an us and them thing and makes it hard to have reasoned debate on it but it has been a balls and if it gets built for the Euros then ulster Gaa will have been lucky it has been sorted due to it being a bit of a political pawn.

[seafoid]

Anyway, I managed to make my way back to the source of this debate where seafoid lays the blame for the Casement saga at the door of "political instability".
Lol.
That's a convenient cover story for the GAA. I don't forget the appalling project management.

The BBC said it.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-67060870
Plans to redevelop of the ground into a modern 34,000 capacity stadium have been on the table for more than 10 years - but political instability, issues behind the scenes and planning permission U-turns combined to keep the bulldozers off site.


Casement has taken 13 years to date
The A5 has taken 14 years to date
The PUC redevelopment took 3 years

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P%C3%A1irc_U%C3%AD_Chaoimh

"In May 2014, the Government sanctioned a €30 million grant to help fund the regeneration of the stadium.[52] The work was due to start in summer 2014, and on 6 July 2014, the stadium hosted its last provincial football final in the old stadium . In November 2014 An Bord Pleanala gave the green light to redevelop the stadium with redevelopment works running from January 2015 to mid-2017.
 The first match at the re-developed stadium was instead a Cork premier intermediate hurling championship game between Valley Rovers and Blarney on 19 July 2017"

The difference is political.

[seafoid]

This is like gaslighting. People remember what happened seafoid. Yes, we currently have political instability but to say that has been the problem with the Casement project is simply wrong.

The GAA fcuked up their project on many levels which dragged it out for years. By the time they went back to the drawing board, redesigned the stadium and got all their ducks in a row inflation meant that the stadium they wanted was costing double the money they had been awarded. So they waited on a sugar daddy to bail them out.
Political instability ffs.

Blame the BBC for saying it.

[marty34]

Was it Ulster GAA  or Antrim GAA that f*#ked it up first?

It was a real mess at the start. Shut up shop after the hurling final a good few years ago.  Madness.

Such a waste of time, and money obviously.

[Armagh18]

Was it Ulster GAA  or Antrim GAA that f*#ked it up first?

It was a real mess at the start. Shut up shop after the hurling final a good few years ago.  Madness.

Such a waste of time, and money obviously. 

Shouldn't have been shut until work was ready to start the next day. A disgrace all round

[armaghniac]

Was it Ulster GAA  or Antrim GAA that f*#ked it up first?

It was a real mess at the start. Shut up shop after the hurling final a good few years ago.  Madness.

Such a waste of time, and money obviously. 

Shouldn't have been shut until work was ready to start the next day. A disgrace all round

Absolutely, the diggers should have been ready in the car park on the day of the last game ready to start at 8am Monday, indeed part of the terraces etc could have been demolished without decommissioning the pitch. Croke Park was rebuilt while being mostly operational and the example was there.

[Armagh18]

Was it Ulster GAA  or Antrim GAA that f*#ked it up first?

It was a real mess at the start. Shut up shop after the hurling final a good few years ago.  Madness.

Such a waste of time, and money obviously.

Neither came out of it looking good but ultimately the reason why there isn't a new stadium on the site right now is down to Ulster GAA mismanagement and incompetence.

Don't think it was on Antrim GAA. Can't understand why Casement wasn't being used right up until it was totally impossible due to construction