Casement Park in line for major overhaul - 40,000 all seater Stadium.

[Rossfan]

take the dubs up to it for all Ireland series.

And risk them getting beaten.....
Maybe for the neutral venue Round 3 game but certainly not the subsequent knock out games.

[ardtole]

Cash only no card facilities etc.

In a world where most places are moving towards the opposite scenario, I know which I'd prefer!

If you are afforded the option in Thurles, at a munster championship match of similar stature to the ulster semi final, then patrons in Ulster should have similar options. Paying plenty of money in ticket prices for a start.

[Saffrongael]

So according to todays Irish News the digger had nothing to do with work starting 

[seafoid]

Pairc Ui chaoimh was dollied up and struggls to pay its way in a dual county in a strong province. Is it really worth dolling up Casement as a 40k all seater for a soccer tournament, a once off? A dog is for life, not just for Christmas and Clones ain't broke so why fix it?

You been to Clones lately? You wouldn't let your dog pee in it..

How much would it cost to bring Clones up to the Standard of Tom Semple's field ? Hardly whatever the inflating price for Casement is.

[trueblue1234]

Pairc Ui chaoimh was dollied up and struggls to pay its way in a dual county in a strong province. Is it really worth dolling up Casement as a 40k all seater for a soccer tournament, a once off? A dog is for life, not just for Christmas and Clones ain't broke so why fix it?

You been to Clones lately? You wouldn't let your dog pee in it..

How much would it cost to bring Clones up to the Standard of Tom Semple's field ? Hardly whatever the inflating price for Casement is.

The money isn't for Clones. Will never be. Why do you not understand that? It's not all GAA money. They can't direct it to Clones.

[seafoid]

One of the problems in the GAA now  is marquee grounds.  Galway used to have Ballinasloe for county hurling,  Tuam for county football  and Pairc na Gaoithe in Salthill for both. Then Salthill was redeveloped and needed to be funded so the matches happen there now and the other 2 have been more or less ignored. 

Pairc UI Chaoimh cost a lot to redevelop and it still isn't self funding

This is all part of the financialisation of the GAA.

Spending a fortune on Casement because there is a grant covering part of the cost is like getting a voucher of £10 for something you didn't need and then spending £100 on it.

And the cost is only one part. The running of the place is probably more important in the long run.
There is a reason why soccer and rugby infrastructure on the island is relatively poor compared to other countries. Because the IRFU/FAI don''t have the cashflow to support anything else and they can't afford white elephants.

https://www.irelandbeforeyoudie.com/top-20-stadiums-in-ireland-by-capacity/

[JPGJOHNNYG]

This discussion has been going round in circles for years. Clones getting the funding keeps coming up for some reason as if that was ever likely. In fairness it would be worth it just to see the DUP outrage and general losing their shit. It would be on an epic proportion if GB money was going to a foreign land

[trailer]

One of the problems in the GAA now  is marquee grounds.  Galway used to have Ballinasloe for county hurling,  Tuam for county football  and Pairc na Gaoithe in Salthill for both. Then Salthill was redeveloped and needed to be funded so the matches happen there now and the other 2 have been more or less ignored. 

Pairc UI Chaoimh cost a lot to redevelop and it still isn't self funding

This is all part of the financialisation of the GAA.

Spending a fortune on Casement because there is a grant covering part of the cost is like getting a voucher of £10 for something you didn't need and then spending £100 on it.

And the cost is only one part. The running of the place is probably more important in the long run.
There is a reason why soccer and rugby infrastructure on the island is relatively poor compared to other countries. Because the IRFU/FAI don''t have the cashflow to support anything else and they can't afford white elephants.

https://www.irelandbeforeyoudie.com/top-20-stadiums-in-ireland-by-capacity/

Relax, don't worry about it.

[RedHand88]

There is not a snowflake in hells chance Stormont are going to give money to a project in another jurisdiction.

[trueblue1234]

One of the problems in the GAA now  is marquee grounds.  Galway used to have Ballinasloe for county hurling,  Tuam for county football  and Pairc na Gaoithe in Salthill for both. Then Salthill was redeveloped and needed to be funded so the matches happen there now and the other 2 have been more or less ignored. 

Pairc UI Chaoimh cost a lot to redevelop and it still isn't self funding

This is all part of the financialisation of the GAA.

Spending a fortune on Casement because there is a grant covering part of the cost is like getting a voucher of £10 for something you didn't need and then spending £100 on it.

And the cost is only one part. The running of the place is probably more important in the long run.
There is a reason why soccer and rugby infrastructure on the island is relatively poor compared to other countries. Because the IRFU/FAI don''t have the cashflow to support anything else and they can't afford white elephants.

https://www.irelandbeforeyoudie.com/top-20-stadiums-in-ireland-by-capacity/

So what would the costs be of redeveloping Clones? And let's be clear, it would take a significant investment. Compare that to the GAA's input into Casement. That's the figures you need to look at. Plus Clones, while in poor state, is operational. Casement isn't.
If you need to eat, and have a voucher for somewhere, you'd best use it before it goes out of date.

[Franko]

One of the problems in the GAA now  is marquee grounds.  Galway used to have Ballinasloe for county hurling,  Tuam for county football  and Pairc na Gaoithe in Salthill for both. Then Salthill was redeveloped and needed to be funded so the matches happen there now and the other 2 have been more or less ignored. 

Pairc UI Chaoimh cost a lot to redevelop and it still isn't self funding

This is all part of the financialisation of the GAA.

Spending a fortune on Casement because there is a grant covering part of the cost is like getting a voucher of £10 for something you didn't need and then spending £100 on it.

And the cost is only one part. The running of the place is probably more important in the long run.
There is a reason why soccer and rugby infrastructure on the island is relatively poor compared to other countries. Because the IRFU/FAI don''t have the cashflow to support anything else and they can't afford white elephants.

https://www.irelandbeforeyoudie.com/top-20-stadiums-in-ireland-by-capacity/

Or more accurately getting a voucher for £85 for something you do need and spending £100 on it

Which makes perfect sense to anyone

Especially when the alternative is to burn the voucher and spend the £15 polishing the turd you already have

[naka]

This discussion has been going round in circles for years. Clones getting the funding keeps coming up for some reason as if that was ever likely. In fairness it would be worth it just to see the DUP outrage and general losing their shit. It would be on an epic proportion if GB money was going to a foreign land

clones is a horrendous stadium and an awful location for a provincial ground.
gaa should have pumped the monies into  armagh and built it up or even newry to say 33k
casement given the mess we are in , within North is genuinely a waste of monies
everything seems broken and the pushing for say 80million oftaxpayers monies just doesnt seem right it it comes to the detriment of essential services

[trailer]

This discussion has been going round in circles for years. Clones getting the funding keeps coming up for some reason as if that was ever likely. In fairness it would be worth it just to see the DUP outrage and general losing their shit. It would be on an epic proportion if GB money was going to a foreign land

clones is a horrendous stadium and an awful location for a provincial ground.
gaa should have pumped the monies into  armagh and built it up or even newry to say 33k
casement given the mess we are in , within North is genuinely a waste of monies
everything seems broken and the pushing for say 80million oftaxpayers monies just doesnt seem right it it comes to the detriment of essential services

Casement is a better venue to develop non footballing revenue. Concerts, Corporate meetings. Belfast has hotels and other infrastructure that Armagh, Newry and Derry doesn't.
It isn't a waste of taxpayers money. We'll have a brand new stadium and the European championships that will bring a huge boost to Belfast and NI. There'll be a huge boost for the people of West Belfast as well.

Casement, no matter the cost needs to be built.

[illdecide]

Correct, they have done their case studies and are confident that corporate events, meetings, concerts etc will sustain the stadium not to mention jobs for some locals (who want a job) and the economy. Ohh and the most important thing is the games in the stadium...Get that 40N Concrete ready

[seafoid]

This discussion has been going round in circles for years. Clones getting the funding keeps coming up for some reason as if that was ever likely. In fairness it would be worth it just to see the DUP outrage and general losing their shit. It would be on an epic proportion if GB money was going to a foreign land

clones is a horrendous stadium and an awful location for a provincial ground.
gaa should have pumped the monies into  armagh and built it up or even newry to say 33k
casement given the mess we are in , within North is genuinely a waste of monies
everything seems broken and the pushing for say 80million oftaxpayers monies just doesnt seem right it it comes to the detriment of essential services

Casement is a better venue to develop non footballing revenue. Concerts, Corporate meetings. Belfast has hotels and other infrastructure that Armagh, Newry and Derry doesn't.
It isn't a waste of taxpayers money. We'll have a brand new stadium and the European championships that will bring a huge boost to Belfast and NI. There'll be a huge boost for the people of West Belfast as well.

Casement, no matter the cost needs to be built.

The North is not stable enough to assume a regular stream of concerts and corporate meetings. Corporate investment is homeopathic compared to the South because of political instability. The DUP do not care about things like economic growth or Taylor Swift's arse.

The Casement Project needs a BRAUNS analysis

Benefits
Risks
Alternatives
Unknowns
What if they do nothing
And a Safety net in case it goes tits up

this analysis is standard in hospitals in the North