Casement Park in line for major overhaul - 40,000 all seater Stadium.

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Hereiam

I will be surprised if this is built on time. As with the A5 road there will be a group monitoring this and if one item is over looked they will pounce and you will see delay after delay.

I heard Heron Bros were in line to build it but that's not the case anymore

tbrick18

Quote from: Eire90 on October 10, 2023, 08:41:32 PMyou think they  have  some agreement to hold the ulster final at clones every 3 years or something

Why?
Clones will still be used as the Monaghan home ground for league and championship.
In the same way Tyrone have Omagh, Derry have Celtic Park (or Owenbeg).

Casement will, and should, host those Ulster finals and semi finals.
It will also give Antrim the county grounds they have been missing for a decade or more - and in doing so perhaps encourage more kids to get involved when they see it.
AI qualifiers would be a possibility, especially if the teams are northern teams.

Then the income generated from Concerts/events etc should be substantial. Regular large events will encourage the development of local businesses in the hospitality sector too as they'll have guaranteed pay-day's over the year.

It can only be good for the GAA in Antrim, Belfast and Ulster in general.

general_lee

Quote from: Hereiam on October 11, 2023, 11:14:35 AMI will be surprised if this is built on time. As with the A5 road there will be a group monitoring this and if one item is over looked they will pounce and you will see delay after delay.

I heard Heron Bros were in line to build it but that's not the case anymore
Surely the fact it's included in the Euros bid means it will be completed on time by all means necessary?

Armagh18

Quote from: Hereiam on October 11, 2023, 11:14:35 AMI will be surprised if this is built on time. As with the A5 road there will be a group monitoring this and if one item is over looked they will pounce and you will see delay after delay.

I heard Heron Bros were in line to build it but that's not the case anymore
Hopefully they'll be told where to go.

tbrick18

Quote from: Hereiam on October 11, 2023, 11:14:35 AMI will be surprised if this is built on time. As with the A5 road there will be a group monitoring this and if one item is over looked they will pounce and you will see delay after delay.

I heard Heron Bros were in line to build it but that's not the case anymore

I think it will. Both governments will now put additional funds in and can afford to do so with the projected influx of money coming into the countries before, during and after the event.
A window for the world into facilities here will undoubtedly bring in money post the event too. From a finance pov, it there would be a strong return on investment here.

Herons had the original contract, what I heard was that one of the sub-contractors folded, however herons still were the builder designate. They would just appoint a new sub-contractor. I'd imagine they will be able to come in with the increased cost of the build if they can demonstrate it is a reasonable amount given market changes since the original award.
A re-tender process would cost more money and time and could be subject to legal challenges.
And lets face it, costs will continue to rise during that window. So the sensible approach would be to retain Heron's at an agreed increase in costs.

God14

Herons had the original contract - in a joint venture with Buckingham group. Buckingham Group are now bust.
Its not as straight forward as you suggest

tbrick18

Quote from: God14 on October 11, 2023, 11:30:00 AMHerons had the original contract - in a joint venture with Buckingham group. Buckingham Group are now bust.
Its not as straight forward as you suggest

I thought Herons were the primary and Buckingham were more or less a sub-contractor?
Just my understanding, not really aware of the details.

Hereiam

Quote from: general_lee on October 11, 2023, 11:18:47 AM
Quote from: Hereiam on October 11, 2023, 11:14:35 AMI will be surprised if this is built on time. As with the A5 road there will be a group monitoring this and if one item is over looked they will pounce and you will see delay after delay.

I heard Heron Bros were in line to build it but that's not the case anymore
Surely the fact it's included in the Euros bid means it will be completed on time by all means necessary?

In a normal society this would be the case, unfortunately we have a shower of bigots who have too much power.

J70

Quote from: God14 on October 11, 2023, 11:30:00 AMHerons had the original contract - in a joint venture with Buckingham group. Buckingham Group are now bust.
Its not as straight forward as you suggest

Weren't they the company that folded in the middle of building the Anfield Road end stand for Liverpool? Fulham's stadium too, too if I remember correctly.

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Quote from: Hereiam on October 11, 2023, 11:52:11 AM
Quote from: general_lee on October 11, 2023, 11:18:47 AM
Quote from: Hereiam on October 11, 2023, 11:14:35 AMI will be surprised if this is built on time. As with the A5 road there will be a group monitoring this and if one item is over looked they will pounce and you will see delay after delay.

I heard Heron Bros were in line to build it but that's not the case anymore
Surely the fact it's included in the Euros bid means it will be completed on time by all means necessary?

In a normal society this would be the case, unfortunately we have a shower of bigots who have too much power.

Focus the minds. No stadium, no games in NI and no qualification spot should they not qualify via the group stage and require one.

Spurs stadium was built by companies in the North. The Concrete for the stands poured offsite here, the steel ring supplied from here and the fit out as well.


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Northern Ireland is looking forward to a "huge economic" windfall after the news that five Euros 2028 matches will be played here, with great potential for the hotel sector to "unlock new markets, bolstering Belfast's global profile".
One regional hotel group said the prospect of the event would be an incentive to make further investments.

Consultancy firm Deloitte estimated that the tournament would bring a £2.6bn economic boost to the UK and Ireland. �

A spokesman for the Irish FA said: "The five associations believe the tournament will have a huge economic impact within the UK and Ireland, generating many millions of pounds for their respective economies."

In its Tournament Requirements for the 2024 Euros, Uefa said that 1,600 rooms would be required for its 'target groups' alone, including Uefa officials, broadcast staff, teams, commercial partners, members of the media and suppliers.

It says 75% of the 1,600 rooms must be in four or five-star hotels, with all located no further than a 45-minute drive from the stadium.

A fly-through of the proposed Casement Park redevelopment for the 2028 Euros

Northern Ireland Hotels Federation chief executive Janice Gault said hosting the Euros was a "very positive development" for the industry.

"Hosting globally recognised events provides a remarkable platform for Northern Ireland, enabling us to showcase the region, attract a fresh influx of visitors and garner international attention," she added.

"Currently boasting over 5,000 hotel bedrooms in the city, accommodating over 10,000 guests, coupled with additional provisions in other serviced accommodations and a substantial stock of self-catering options, Belfast is well-prepared to host such prestigious events.

"This presents a significant opportunity for the entire region, with teams based both within and beyond the city, and visitors traveling between fixtures and across countries.

"With a robust pipeline, including a new hotel opening next week and three additional properties expected to be operational by 2025, we are witnessing a substantial wave of investment.

"Global events of this magnitude not only invigorate the business landscape but also unlock new markets, bolstering Belfast's global profile."


Casement Park will be ready for Euro 2028 but GAA funding up to them, insists IFA chief Patrick Nelson
According to a federation report, Northern Ireland has 141 hotels with 9,432 rooms.

There are four five-star hotels, offering 365 rooms, and 41 four-star hotels, offering 3,920 rooms.

Room2 on the corner of Queen Street and College Street will open on October 16.

Other hotels planned for the city in the next few years include the Moxy Hotel, the Dean and the Mountainview in west Belfast.


Rajesh Rana, the director of Andras Hotels, which has six hotels and serviced accommodation in Belfast, said: "Andras Hotels have plans for new hotels in the city, and the Euros will encourage us to keep investing and developing in Belfast."

Earlier this year, the Birmingham Live news website reported that with the city likely to host five matches, it would bring £117.1m in economic benefits, according to analysis by its council, along with Deloitte and UK Sport.

Gerry Lennon, chief executive of the tourism body Visit Belfast, said he was keen to work with partners to make the most of the benefits of the Euros to Belfast and the wider region.

"Sports tourism is a growth area, and with an exciting line-up of international events over the next few years, the Euros 2028 is a key event helping to provide a significant boost to the economy, positioning both Belfast and Northern Ireland on the map for future events," he added.

A Tourism NI spokesperson said the event brought "immense opportunities" to promote Northern Ireland.

"We have enjoyed a lasting impact from the international events staged here over the last decade, from The Open, the Irish Open and the Giro d'Italia to UK City of Culture," they added.

"These events generated civic pride and economic benefits across the country and have improved the perception of Northern Ireland in all our key tourism markets."

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So the green light has been given, cases that have been brought to the courts have been dealt with and funding looks to be mainly sorted, but the place won't be built in time? Its 4.5 years? How long does it take to get going or is this a local government issue that requires them to be in government to get it up and ready?

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On average, professional sports stadiums take between two and three years from start to finish — for example, construction on the Las Vegas Raiders' Allegiant Stadium took 31 months..

Whos doing the construction? Steve Wonder?
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea