Started by Lecale2, November 10, 2006, 12:06:55 AM
Quote from: Hard2Listen2 on November 17, 2023, 07:43:07 PMQuote from: skat man on November 17, 2023, 01:57:51 PMare all management teams now in place ?Kilcoo?Burren?Warrenpoint?Rostrevor?Saval?
Quote from: skat man on November 17, 2023, 01:57:51 PMare all management teams now in place ?
Quote from: ck on November 17, 2023, 09:30:50 PMQuote from: Hard2Listen2 on November 17, 2023, 07:43:07 PMQuote from: skat man on November 17, 2023, 01:57:51 PMare all management teams now in place ?Kilcoo?Burren?Warrenpoint?Rostrevor?Saval?Did Lacey get the sack?
Quote from: Splash on November 17, 2023, 11:58:13 PMSpeaking to a Mitchell's man recently. Says it looks like the club won't be lining out this year. Hardly a surprise, but awful pity. What on Earth went wrong with Newry Mitchell's? Hard to know where the club can go from here. Ideally would be hoping to get to the level of Magherlin or Aghaderg if they do manage to pull it together? Where could they get players from? In theory, Chapel Street/Courtney Hill/High Street part of the town? Problem is competing with Shamrocks and Ballyholland. How does a fella in Newry choose whether he is Mitchell's or Shamrocks? Assuming the generic 'because his dad played for them' but how did we end up with two teams in the same small area? Interesting how most ppl in the town over a certain age, seem to be Mitchell's men, whilst those under that age seem to be Shamrocks. Don't ask me what age that is, but it definitely seems that Shamrocks have dominance in the youth scene, which is no surprise given the Mitchell's not even fielding underage teams. When did the shift happen? How did Shamrocks become a competitive intermediate club in both codes playing out of the county grounds whilst Mitchell's went from SFC Champions to what they are now? Hope Mitchell's come back. Hope they field this year. Terror to see any club in the position they find themselves in. Worth mentioning, there doesn't seem to be a great Gaelic Games scene in Newry at the moment. This needs to be addressed. I'm a big proponent of tapping into North Down, but we mustn't forget the likes of Newry at the same time. Is it worth noting that Newcastle and Downpatrick both have one team (Bryansford and RGU respectively), whilst Newry has 4 (Shamrocks, Bosco, Mitchell's, and Correnshigo across in Armagh). Some would argue Ballyholland merits being a Newry team now. Not saying we need to amalgamate all the clubs, but it is interesting to observe. Soccer also seems to be very popular in the town at the minute. Nothing wrong with soccer, but important to ensure Gaelic Games evolve and remain as relevant and as attractive as Newry City AFC.
Quote from: ranch on November 18, 2023, 01:47:20 AMSoccer is also popular, that's true. However, I don't think it can be used as an adequate excuse. Lurgan is a town of roughly the same size and has as many distractions as Newry, along with a significantly larger Unionist/Loyalist population. However they're able to maintain 3 clubs in the Armagh senior championship, and one who reached 3 of the past 4 intermediate finals. This clearly benefits Armagh too. They also have a club competing in the Armagh junior hurling championship. On their outskirts they have Eire Og in Craigavon as well as Aghagallon in county Antrim and Magheralin in county Down. The main difference in Lurgan is that the clubs have clearly defined areas where they are based and draw their players from, for example St Paul's in Taghnevan and Clann Eireann in Kilwilkie. With the Shamrocks taking over the area that the Mitchels relied on, there's no space for them to survive. Less clubs isn't necessarily a bad thing for Newry and Down if it leads to better results and participation, but I don't see either happening anytime soon.
Quote from: Splash on November 18, 2023, 06:00:07 PMLurgan is probably a great example to compare Newry to. I've viewed the impact the Lurgan teams have had on Armagh as an example of what impact Bredagh, Carryduff, etc., could have on Down, but it makes a lot of sense to compare them to Newry instead. Don't know a heap of what goes on in Lurgan, but from craic I've heard, a lot of work has been put into the GAA scene. Know some very committed men in Newry, around Shamrocks especially. Would be great to see them results similar to what Lurgan has produced. Simply due to the fact that a majority of new housing in Newry will be built on the west side of the town due to geographical reasons, it is worth discussing at some point how the Down clubs will benefit from this. Correnshigo will obviously benefit, but there is an argument that Bosco could benefit, too. Very interesting insight, Wobbler. Never knew a lot of that. Mitchell's location is really not going to help them. The problem is trying to figure out where they could find a home. Majority of Mitchell's men I know come from around the High Street area. Nowhere they could really be based out of without infringing on the catchment areas of other clubs, though. Not having an underage set up was only ever going to lead to disaster down the line. The attempts to market Mitchell's in a 'social football' style, whilst a good idea, wasn't sustainable given the situation. That take on the situation may have worked in say, East Belfast's situation. They have large numbers which makes things a lot easier. Hard to market it as 'social football' and then try and get 15 lads to travel to the far side of East Down every week (the fact that most teams the Mitchell's would be playing would be quite far away definitely doesn't help- closest team in Div 4 would be Aghaderg or Bosco if they game down?). I'm sure it's already been looked at, but what was it that made Aughlasnfin become a competitive junior side whilst being so close to Castlewellen? Perhaps a model for the Mitchell's to follow in there? Was said to me before that there could be a solution in bringing in fellas from say, Ballyholland, who can't commit to the demands of senior football or aren't making the senior team, but it is definitely a rabbit hole to go down trying to take players from other clubs to sustain a team.Hope there is a solution some day. But a lot of problems to over come. The county board perhaps needs to do something to ensure the game remains popular in Newry.
Quote from: johnnycool on November 19, 2023, 11:06:30 AMSad news this morning with the breaking news of the death of Sean McCashin, the Down Ulster Council delegate and referee. Thoughts and prayers for his family and friends. He's been a member of our club the last few years. RIP Sean.
Quote from: Nanderson on November 17, 2023, 09:49:47 PMQuote from: ck on November 17, 2023, 09:30:50 PMQuote from: Hard2Listen2 on November 17, 2023, 07:43:07 PMQuote from: skat man on November 17, 2023, 01:57:51 PMare all management teams now in place ?Kilcoo?Burren?Warrenpoint?Rostrevor?Saval?Did Lacey get the sack?Think hes with Jim in Donegal setup next year