Taliban massacre children in Pakistani school

[seafoid]

The pakistani's are far from innocent in this endeavour, they've targeted women and children in their war on the Taliban and now the Taliban have come to extract a terrible revenge.

20 years ago the IRA were blowing up civilians in Enniskillen, Omagh, London, Birmingham and elsewhere, the Enniskillen attack in particular focused on a public event/location with links to the military, like this attack in many regards. Now you're either of two minds, the first that the IRA and the Taliban are guilty of the same heinous crimes and should be annihilated, despite the cost to innocent lives (Irish Catholic lives as it would have been in the IRA's case). Secondly you could acknowledge the role of the establishment in both incidences. A role that you will not find written in the pages of the Daily Mail, mentioned on the BBC or spoken on CNN and that goes for both now and 20 years ago.

The truth lies somewhere between these two poles of thinking but I know one thing for certain. The man that can consciously state that more bloodshed is the appropriate response to this attack is as cold-hearted as the men who entered that school yesterday and took those young lives. To think that more drone strikes, or greater aggression by an army of such dubious reputation as the Pakistani's is the answer to these problems represents the ideology of a despot or a maniac.

You've all rehashed the same bullshite philosophy that the Brit media feed you every time, be it Syria, Ukraine or Iraq. Firstly take an atrocity and begin with the " Oh Christ the humanity" line, then the "taliban/russian/IS/Assad murderers", then move onto talk of defeating these movements and then discuss arming the opposition, brushing over their history of violence, corruption or lack of suitability to take a measured response. Then let your governments go away and arm such groupings to the teeth but here's the kicker, the death, destruction and hatred you inspire will be swept under the carpet by the same outlets that whipped up the hysteria in the first place.

Honestly how often do you hear about Syria, Ukraine or ISIS nowadays on the tv? Do you honestly think that's because the problem's gone away? No, because whilst Assad's repression of protests or Russia's annexing of the Crimea is worthy news the displacement, poverty and suffering you extolled upon millions people of these regions is not.

I despair for those children yesterday, not because the Daily Telegraph or the 6oclock news told me I should but because they'll be far from the last innocents to be slaughtered.

Violence doesn't solve problems like the Taliban.
Neither does slaughtering children address wider injustice.

[Mike Sheehy]

deliberately trying to deflect attention from the root cause i.e. violent, radical Islam and Jihadism in order to fit in with an extremely biased geopolitical wordview won't solve the problem either.

[seafoid]

deliberately trying to deflect attention from the root cause i.e. violent, radical Islam and Jihadism in order to fit in with an extremely biased geopolitical wordview won't solve the problem either.

Guess who funded the daddy of the Taliban, the mujahideen.
Extremely shortsighted geopolitical view, that was.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3f9mlUQzJA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXb_BUSU91s

#freedom fighters

[seafoid]

FP's Situation Report, presented by Lockheed Martin (WTF)

http://www.splitnation.org/aggregator/sources/60

FP's Elias Groll: The attack "is only likely to exacerbate what is a crisis in Pakistani education, which has been strained by the twin pressures of sectarian politics and militant attacks, leaving the country's economy lagging significantly behind that of neighboring India. According to a 2014 International Crisis Group (ICG) report on Pakistan's education system, more than 9 million Pakistani children receive neither primary nor secondary education. Pakistan has the second-highest number of out-of-school children in the world, and 22 percent of Pakistani children legally mandated to be in school are not. Literacy rates are stagnant

[gallsman]

Selective outrage is great but system problems need more thinking that that.
#bring back our girls

says the most selective spin doctor of the lot. jesus but you have some neck to come out with that BS given your 13 years of propaganda on here.

still no condemnation of the attack from you btw ..don't think for a second that this has gone unnoticed...

Ah, your usual line of "it doesn't matter how much you condemn anything until you're seen to be condemning it on an internet discussion board" line. Make you feel better about things, does it? You expressed your condemnation to a bunch of people you don't know and can now move swiftly past things? Pathetic.

[Franko]

Selective outrage is great but system problems need more thinking that that.
#bring back our girls

says the most selective spin doctor of the lot. jesus but you have some neck to come out with that BS given your 13 years of propaganda on here.

still no condemnation of the attack from you btw ..don't think for a second that this has gone unnoticed...

Ah, your usual line of "it doesn't matter how much you condemn anything until you're seen to be condemning it on an internet discussion board" line. Make you feel better about things, does it? You expressed your condemnation to a bunch of people you don't know and can now move swiftly past things? Pathetic.

Can we start a thread on how many times gallsman describes something as 'pathetic'...

[Premier Emperor]

http://tribune.com.pk/story/229844/the-day-69-children-died/

evil scum. Poor children. Dixie, you are beyond contempt.

Is there any difference between a US Drone strike that killed 69 children or this attack today?
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...And Hamas firing rockets trying to kill people.
It's all the same.

[seafoid]

http://tribune.com.pk/story/229844/the-day-69-children-died/

evil scum. Poor children. Dixie, you are beyond contempt.

Is there any difference between a US Drone strike that killed 69 children or this attack today?

...And Hamas firing rockets trying to kill people.
It's all the same.
[/quote]
Is there any difference between a Hamas rocket and the Tipp forwards in the last 5 minutes of the AIF ?

[Premier Emperor]

http://tribune.com.pk/story/229844/the-day-69-children-died/

evil scum. Poor children. Dixie, you are beyond contempt.

Is there any difference between a US Drone strike that killed 69 children or this attack today?

...And Hamas firing rockets trying to kill people.
It's all the same.

Is there any difference between a Hamas rocket and the Tipp forwards in the last 5 minutes of the AIF ?
[/quote]
Were the Tipp forwards trying to murder people as well?

[Mike Sheehy]

Islamic Jihadism long predates what is referred to as "the west" today. They will always find an excuse to attack whatever secular/non-fundamentalist form of government that challenges them. This constant attempt to lay the blame at the door of the victims instead of the perpetrators is not going to solve the issue. Those militants were not thinking of climate change of population growth when they murdered those children. To say otherwise is, at best, naïve and, at worst, sinister.

[Mike Sheehy]

Selective outrage is great but system problems need more thinking that that.
#bring back our girls

says the most selective spin doctor of the lot. jesus but you have some neck to come out with that BS given your 13 years of propaganda on here.

still no condemnation of the attack from you btw ..don't think for a second that this has gone unnoticed...

Ah, your usual line of "it doesn't matter how much you condemn anything until you're seen to be condemning it on an internet discussion board" line. Make you feel better about things, does it? You expressed your condemnation to a bunch of people you don't know and can now move swiftly past things? Pathetic.

Why don't you just address the issue instead of trying to start a slagging match.

[gallsman]

Selective outrage is great but system problems need more thinking that that.
#bring back our girls

says the most selective spin doctor of the lot. jesus but you have some neck to come out with that BS given your 13 years of propaganda on here.

still no condemnation of the attack from you btw ..don't think for a second that this has gone unnoticed...

Ah, your usual line of "it doesn't matter how much you condemn anything until you're seen to be condemning it on an internet discussion board" line. Make you feel better about things, does it? You expressed your condemnation to a bunch of people you don't know and can now move swiftly past things? Pathetic.

Why don't you just address the issue instead of trying to start a slagging match.

What is the "issue" as you consider it?

For me the issue here is the widespread acceptance of the tragedy with a "I've said my bit, nothing more to see here, let's move along swiftly" rather than try to actually explore the root causes of how horrifying tragedies such as this come about, then adopt a sneering attitude of faux outrage and a position of "your level of condemnation doesn't match what I deem to be an acceptable level of condemnation, you are a disgrace" when someone does just that, albeit allowing for the fact that some who do just that have an agenda.

[seafoid]

Islamic Jihadism long predates what is referred to as "the west" today. They will always find an excuse to attack whatever secular/non-fundamentalist form of government that challenges them. This constant attempt to lay the blame at the door of the victims instead of the perpetrators is not going to solve the issue. Those militants were not thinking of climate change of population growth when they murdered those children. To say otherwise is, at best, naïve and, at worst, sinister.

Islamic jihadism is a stupid ideology. Cover up the women and chaos will subside.
But its modern version does not predate the West. 

For whatever reason the West has interfered in the region since the late 1800s and
always used the idea that the locals are bloodthirsty barbarians.
Most of them are just ordinary people who want to live quiet lives.
But quiet lives are bad for the likes of Lockheed Martin.

It's quite ironic having Europeans looking down on Muslims for their violent tendencies.
Europe has only been stable for 2 generations.   

https://www.magnumphotos.com/C.aspx?VP3=SearchResult&ALID=2TYRYD0EWXLG

And climate change reduces the resources available to a population so it's a key factor in insurgencies these days.

[gallsman]

Selective outrage is great but system problems need more thinking that that.
#bring back our girls

says the most selective spin doctor of the lot. jesus but you have some neck to come out with that BS given your 13 years of propaganda on here.

still no condemnation of the attack from you btw ..don't think for a second that this has gone unnoticed...

Ah, your usual line of "it doesn't matter how much you condemn anything until you're seen to be condemning it on an internet discussion board" line. Make you feel better about things, does it? You expressed your condemnation to a bunch of people you don't know and can now move swiftly past things? Pathetic.

Can we start a thread on how many times gallsman describes something as 'pathetic'...

I'll try not bite too much considering the seriousness of the topic under discussion but all I'll say is:

Rapists you support: at least one

Rapists I support: zero

[Mike Sheehy]

Selective outrage is great but system problems need more thinking that that.
#bring back our girls

says the most selective spin doctor of the lot. jesus but you have some neck to come out with that BS given your 13 years of propaganda on here.

still no condemnation of the attack from you btw ..don't think for a second that this has gone unnoticed...

Ah, your usual line of "it doesn't matter how much you condemn anything until you're seen to be condemning it on an internet discussion board" line. Make you feel better about things, does it? You expressed your condemnation to a bunch of people you don't know and can now move swiftly past things? Pathetic.

Why don't you just address the issue instead of trying to start a slagging match.

What is the "issue" as you consider it?

For me the issue here is the widespread acceptance of the tragedy with a "I've said my bit, nothing more to see here, let's move along swiftly" rather than try to actually explore the root causes of how horrifying tragedies such as this come about, then adopt a sneering attitude of faux outrage and a position of "your level of condemnation doesn't match what I deem to be an acceptable level of condemnation, you are a disgrace" when someone does just that, albeit allowing for the fact that some who do just that have an agenda.

The primary issue is Islamic Jihad and their murderous mission to impose their creed on others.