Premier League 2023-2024

[Armagh18]

Why isn't Howe under the same pressure as ETH? And don't mention injuries, as United have a bucket load too.

Yet Howe gets a byeball by the press cause he's English?

Newcastle form is shocking

They're a small club and they've spent a tiny fraction of United in the last decade.

[Blowitupref]

Why isn't Howe under the same pressure as ETH? And don't mention injuries, as United have a bucket load too.

Yet Howe gets a byeball by the press cause he's English?

Newcastle form is shocking

Man United while a long way off their glory years they remain one of most talked about clubs in the world. UK journalists will write many articles about them as they know the attention they'll received.

Newcastle have never grabbed that big of an interest and that includes back in the 90s when Sky Sports tried their best to hype them up with the label the great entertainers.

Howe can go about his business without the heavy media criticism but this could well be his last season as Newcastle owners seek another manager.

[Captain Obvious]

They'll drop points as will other teams...

2 horse race

With the chasing horse (Manchester City) hoping the front runner slips up on a few fences.

Liverpool are great odds at 5/2, with it in their hands and that difficult game at home...

So great that plenty of Liverpool supporters has probably grabbed those odds already. In March they have Manchester City in Anfield a draw will do Liverpool there and if they win it likely end whatever chance Pep Guardiola team has of catching them.

[Link]

City had an intense season winning the treble last year, the annoyance of the European Super Cup and World Club Cup this season. When they get their bearings in the next few weeks they'll be a force to be reckoned with. feck me, they've been struggling and they're only two points behind an on fire Liverpool at the top of the table.

They have the players, the squad, the manager, the money.

This fella on ignore lists already and I'm late to the party?

[jcpen]

They'll drop points as will other teams...

2 horse race

With the chasing horse (Manchester City) hoping the front runner slips up on a few fences.

Liverpool are great odds at 5/2, with it in their hands and that difficult game at home...

So great that plenty of Liverpool supporters has probably grabbed those odds already. In March they have Manchester City in Anfield a draw will do Liverpool there and if they win it likely end whatever chance Pep Guardiola team has of catching them.

And if they don't win it you and the other amadáns can post about how they "bottled it". So boringly predictable.
You have issues.

[Milltown Row2]

They'll drop points as will other teams...

2 horse race

With the chasing horse (Manchester City) hoping the front runner slips up on a few fences.

Liverpool are great odds at 5/2, with it in their hands and that difficult game at home...

So great that plenty of Liverpool supporters has probably grabbed those odds already. In March they have Manchester City in Anfield a draw will do Liverpool there and if they win it likely end whatever chance Pep Guardiola team has of catching them.

And if they don't win it you and the other amadáns can post about how they "bottled it". So boringly predictable.
You have issues.

A non Liverpool fan 

Nothing is won on here..Chill

[RedHand88]

Everton, at it again!! Talk of another points deduction after a new charge, as well as Nottingham Forest this time.

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Everton, at it again!! Talk of another points deduction after a new charge, as well as Nottingham Forest this time.

If this does happen City will be fucked by the time their case is heard.

[johnnycool]

Everton, at it again!! Talk of another points deduction after a new charge, as well as Nottingham Forest this time.

It's a new charge for the same period of time they got the first points deduction...

This one is strange and it looks like the Premier League are about to re-write their rules in the summer with whatever they're charging Everton for won't be an issue

[imtommygunn]

Is there not one extra season in this one?

[johnnycool]

Is there not one extra season in this one?

yes there is, 2022/2023 season, my bad.

The point remains though as these rules are based on a rolling three season period, so say Everton were out of kilter in 2021/2022 they'd get punished twice for the same bad year or years.

[imtommygunn]

Unfortunately it's the way the rules are written 

[AustinPowers]

Everton, at it again!! Talk of another points deduction after a new charge, as well as Nottingham Forest this time.

If this does happen City will be fucked by the time their case is heard.

It must be at  least a  year ago that I heard about   115 charges against City.

So what is    happening  with that?  Will  there be  a hearing/court case anytime soon?

[Hound]

I would guess Everton will get a deduction of 3 points or less this time as the previous punishment will be taken into account.

City is completely different. They have not breached financial fair play. They may have breached arm's length rules with sponsorship deals. Well they 100% have broken those rules as they got sponsorship deals well in excess of the market rates. But it's much harder to prove.

On the other hand Forest and Everton's own accounts show they have breached FFP. Forest's excuse that had we sold Brennan Johnson a couple of months earlier we would have been fine, so therefore we shouldn't be punished is laughable.

Chelsea a good example of how to use the rules to your advantage. Get your sales done by 30 June and give long term contracts. Albeit not always buying the right players and the long term contracts to mediocre players will surely come back to bite at some stage!

[imtommygunn]

Are FFP and PSR completely different things? They have to be very linked but are presumably not exactly the same thing too?