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most leading sports physios and Pat Carton differ greatly about the need for hip surgery.

Of course they do.

Constant physiotherapy to counteract FAI/labral tear problems pays physios a lot of money.
Surgery to potentially fix FAI/labral tear pays surgeons lots of money.

Successful surgery will lead to less trips to the physio. I'm sure Lee and the mayo physio team had a long time to think about getting both hips done. I would guess it is due to the conservative approach with physiotherapy failing over the few seasons.

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First off the rumours that was spread about Lee Keegan was disgusting. 

Surgery if all possible is avoided, He has said its because of wear and tear and Keegan is player that only had his first full season in the Mayo senior jersey in 2011 and unlike some players he played little underage football for his county matter of fact i don't think he ever played county minor so without looking to play the blame game its more than likely the over the top training that Keegan has been doing in the last 6 years that has resulted in both of his hips requiring surgery.
On the surface you make a strong case. What you neglect to say is that Keegan played rugby extensively at underage level and it was touch and go as to whether he would take up the pro-rugby route or commit to GAA. His long term injuries could be traced to rugby as easily as "over the top training". The extended season he had last year with Westport didn't help but that's par for the course for players who commit to both club and county.

By all accounts Lee has been a glutton for training and as he ages he may learn like many others before him to train smartly. in this regard there's a good article on Kieran Fitz of Corofin in today's Indo who continues to play well at 37yrs of age. Liked how he described himself as the No 2 full-back in the household as his wife has two All Irelands with Galway Ladies in that position.

Who also has had groin, ankle and hip operations. Possibly only has began to train smartly since these.

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Personally having went through a similar surgery with another orthopedic consultant, I was never promised 100%. I was given a detailed consultation, detailed report of MRI with the pros/cons of surgery and the choice was mine. I think the number was 60% chance of improvement, 15% of making it worse and 25% of the condition staying the same.

It took about 5/6 months for recovery. The result is an improvement but not back to 100%.

I would be surprised if any surgeon promised 100% each and every time. Some guys hips are that bad by the time the consultant gets near them that nothing can be done.

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General discussion / Re: The IRISH RUGBY thread
« on: November 15, 2017, 02:09:43 PM »

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Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
« on: November 13, 2017, 09:49:48 AM »
exactly why IMHO its a stupid thing to say.

The same thing could be said in a lot of different county's

just looking at the minor league and Kevin Lynches where getting absolutely hammered by nearly everyone, how come the turnaround.

McHugh and Mullan would have been with Derry minor footballers all year and would have missed a lot of games due to that.
Maybe a few talented u16s didn't play in antrim league but came in for derry championship.

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General discussion / Re: Mortgages - Help!
« on: November 10, 2017, 09:15:12 AM »
Changed to Santander recently, we use a guy who looks after all that stuff, so never really take any notice of best deals but they must have had an change over offer as we got 」3000 cheque from changing it, I thought we'd have to put it into the mortgage but the broker guy said nope thats yours!!

」150 quid well spent using someone who knows what they are doing, as they can save you money and let you know of the pitfalls and hidden costs

Was this a cashback offer MR?

Danske Bank had a similiar offer of 」1200/」1500 cashback for first time buyers. They didn't offer the best rate but the cashback made it the best deal. I will probably change provider next renewal and first direct looks the best to me at the moment.

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Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
« on: October 24, 2017, 09:23:57 AM »
I see the facebook live stream of the ulster camogie final was a big success but for some reason the hurling wasn't allowed to be shown. Was there an alternative live stream?

I recorded TG4's highlights show last night but it didn't show the ulster hurling final. Is it available anywhere else?

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Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
« on: October 17, 2017, 09:18:39 PM »
I'm no expert but I know we used at least 15 u21s not including minors.

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Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
« on: October 17, 2017, 04:31:02 PM »
I doubt there would be any but I would guarantee you that Lavey, Faughanvale, Dungiven and more would still have fielded this year if they were told minors couldn't play.

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Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
« on: October 17, 2017, 02:46:35 PM »
Is it true Glen pulled out of the U21 championship due to numbers? This is the same team that won the minor title three years ago.

I was told it was due to it being the day before their minor B final.

2 things here, surely glen have enough players u21 (but over 18) and that they could easily compete with most teams in a minor A.

What's the point in entering a competition for the sake of it. If they have Minors that start on their u21 team they should not be made play u21's a day before the minor final. The club u21 tournament gets run into the ground and to be honest is a bit of a joke competition, deserves far more respect from organisers.

Let me rephrase then, did Glen need many u15s when they won the minors 3 years ago? I agree that the competition should get more of a chance.

The dynamics of minor and U21 are different. Minor teams are made up with 15-18 years olds and generally the wider panel are weaker players. Many of the weaker players drop off due to natural wastage. Others become not available at U21 due different  factors (i.e injuries, study in England, Conor Glass AFL, Mark Doole illness etc)
When it comes to U21's, I would suggest that most if not all clubs would depend on minors in order to enter a team. In Glen's last 3 Ulster winning Under 21 squads, each had several minors involved. This year was no different.

Yeah the usual drop off is easily understood but not to a point where a club withdraws from the comp. I find it hard to believe (doubt i would be the only one) that Glen couldn't field 15-20 players from the 2014 minor winners and 2015 finalists in addition to the 2016 minors even with 3/4 lost to the factors you mention.

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Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
« on: October 17, 2017, 01:22:28 PM »
Is it true Glen pulled out of the U21 championship due to numbers? This is the same team that won the minor title three years ago.

I was told it was due to it being the day before their minor B final.

2 things here, surely glen have enough players u21 (but over 18) and that they could easily compete with most teams in a minor A.

What's the point in entering a competition for the sake of it. If they have Minors that start on their u21 team they should not be made play u21's a day before the minor final. The club u21 tournament gets run into the ground and to be honest is a bit of a joke competition, deserves far more respect from organisers.

Let me rephrase then, did Glen need many u15s when they won the minors 3 years ago? I agree that the competition should get more of a chance.

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Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
« on: October 17, 2017, 11:21:02 AM »
Is it true Glen pulled out of the U21 championship due to numbers? This is the same team that won the minor title three years ago.

I was told it was due to it being the day before their minor B final.

2 things here, surely glen have enough players u21 (but over 18) and that they could easily compete with most teams in a minor A.

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Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
« on: October 02, 2017, 01:58:22 PM »
Bit of a disgrace that Lavey should be playing at this level tbf.

New hurling structure within derry this year. seems everyone is fairly happy with the amount of fixtures and the structure of everything.

Do you have a proposal for who should represent derry at intermediate level given Na Magha beat Coleraine easy and Coleraine can't represent Derry at junior level?

I would currently rank the derry teams in this order - SL, Banagher, KL, Screen, Lavey, Swatragh, Na Magha, Coleraine.

Not my responsibility to be proposing anyone, my point was that a club like Lavey playing in Im. Championship is not good for anyone.
It is not solely a Derry problem, I also think that Sarsfields are too good to be playing at that level too.

There has been a trend within Antrim in recent years to just drop down that level to get a championship run. Smacks of taking the easy route for me.

I don't think anyone in Derry feel Lavey are taking the easy route. They got beaten by KL as expected in senior QF then went onto beat swatragh, who were the other beaten quarter finalist, in the intermediate final.

If lavey win ulster int I assume they can't enter it again next year so most likely swatragh will get a run at it possibly without actually winning anything in derry. What may be considered taking the easy route is if screen, banagher or KL struggle in the league with could put them against SN in a QF and into intermediate.

I think the problem arises with the lack of hurling teams in derry (3 teams out of 8 representing Derry in ulster) and possibly in the whole of ulster bar antrim.

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Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
« on: October 02, 2017, 01:33:10 PM »
Bit of a disgrace that Lavey should be playing at this level tbf.

New hurling structure within derry this year. seems everyone is fairly happy with the amount of fixtures and the structure of everything.

Do you have a proposal for who should represent derry at intermediate level given Na Magha beat Coleraine easy and Coleraine can't represent Derry at junior level?

I would currently rank the derry teams in this order - SL, Banagher, KL, Screen, Lavey, Swatragh, Na Magha, Coleraine.

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Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
« on: September 25, 2017, 01:43:36 PM »
Game Watch
S地eil were excellent throughout. 4 points inside the first 6 minutes set the tone and 全creen were on the back foot already.  S地eil痴 mobility, pace and power all over the pitch, but especially in the middle third, was too much for 全creen.  Their support play and running off the ball was excellent, 全creen found it difficult to cope.  In fairness 全creen got back to within 2 points with about 20mins gone.  The 2nd goal, did a lot of damage.  And by half time a 7point lead did look extremely difficult to turnaround.

It really was game over just after half time, I thought 全creen could have dealt with the goal a bit better.  Anything after that point was really just seeing the game out.  McMullan痴 save from the penalty was excellent, and although 全creen痴 goal came shortly after that, there is no way the 4th goal should have been conceded.

There was some excellent battles over the course of the game Heron/Rogers and McWilliams/Feeney, were the two best.  Brendan Herron was v influential for a good part of the game. McWilliams was doing a lot of the heavy lifting in and around midfield.  Anton probably wasn稚 used as much as he should have been, he was in ff for about 15mins before anything was kicked in high.

Screen caused some problems with the rotational positions in the forward line.  There was an occasion were the closest S地eil man should have picked up Mulgrew (stand side), KMcK who was his marker, was on the terrace side covering someone else and the players decided to make the switch leaving Mulgrew free and McKaigue to cover a lot of ground to pick him up.  Of course the ball was kicked into Mulgrew for an easy possession.

S地eil will be delighted with the performance.  4-12 is excellent scoring, though they will be disappointed with a couple of poor choices in shot selection in the second half.  4-16 was probably achievable.  They could have emptied the subs bench a bit more, I don稚 think they introduce a sub until the last 10mins or so.

From the stats after the game, its interesting to see that they are quite similar across the board, apart from the scores.  34 v 30 attacks, 24 v 24 shots, 7 v 8 wides, Kickouts won 21 v 21, Turn overs 12 v 13.

S地eil are worthy Champions, they致e a tough run (from the prelim) through Ulster starting with Kilcoo or Burren and then the Tyrone Champs.  Keep the main men fit and flying and they could certainly go one better than last year.

Ref Watch
1.Penalty incidents in the first half.  Twice in quick succession, Anton was just barged in the back with no intent on playing the ball.  If that happened on a kick out it痴 a free, plain and simple.

2.Philly Bradley was given a free in the first half for minimal contact, it was around head height, but there was nothing in it.  No calls from the players or crowd.  Very soft

3.In the second half Dermot McBride blocked a quick free, right under the nose of Mullan, but he refused to bring it forward.

4.The ball was played up the line to the S地eil corner forward, he fouled the Screen defender coming out with the ball, no free, play on.  S地eil man retained possession and was clearly fouled by the Screen defender, no free, play on.

5.Carlus playing a long ball into the ff line in the second half was hit as he was kicking it in.  Normally a free where the ball lands, nothing given.

6.Black Cards there was a couple of drag downs, Feeney on Heron stands out for me, but there was a more than that.

Mullan had no impact on the scoreline.  He was very poor all over.  The S地eil contingent around us were convinced that he was favouring 全creen in the first half.  His poor performance and inaction could easily have led to a row breaking out.  He looked like a man that couldn稚 really be bothered refereeing.  I certainly wouldn稚 suggest in any way that there was bias to either side.

So Slaughtneil were worthy champions but it was the refs fault??

Think you should read the whole post before calling anyone out.

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