NFL Division Two 2022

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Offaly goalkeeper Paddy Dunican labels key backpass decision an 'absolute disgrace'
'When you make up a rule for no good reason - it's nothing other than embarrassing'

Posting on Twitter, Dunican wrote: "So.. 'a huge mistake on my behalf' .. the ball was kicked back to me..my choices were A) let it out for 45 and cork free shot at goal. B) throw ball which is a 50/50.

"So I chose the '50/50 ball instead of a 45 (free shot at goal) obviously. But referee then gave a free in from the 14 for the same rule they called earlier in the game as a throw ball.

"This is apparently my fault to those who clearly did not watch the game.. the real crime is 1) umpires) related to officials who... offer no input to the modern game (no official training).

"B) the lineswoman (Maggie Farrelly) called that in the first half out of nowhere to make some sort of name for herself. The referee admitted to making a mistake in the first half and said it should have been there (sic) free.

"The moral of the story - an absolute disgrace. There was never going to be anything between the two teams. When you make up a rule for no good reason - it's nothing other than embarrassing.

"And btw, we didn't just lose the league today - but, when so much goes in to the basic rules of the game, you'd expect some sort of adequacy. So much goes into our game all to be taken away from a few lads who have no idea of the rules."
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

Armagh18

In fairness if it was given as a hop ball early in the game then a free in at the last then wtf?

Captain Obvious

Quote from: Armagh18 on March 28, 2022, 01:10:46 PM
In fairness if it was given as a hop ball early in the game then a free in at the last then wtf?

That's ridiculous if true.

Cavan19

Quote from: Armagh18 on March 28, 2022, 01:10:46 PM
In fairness if it was given as a hop ball early in the game then a free in at the last then wtf?

Is he saying that the referee threw it up in the first half when the same thing happened and blaming that for why he played it ?

And then after the game the referee said the call in the first half was a mistake on his behalf and it should have been a free in?

oliverkelly

Spoke to an Offaly supporter and he confirmed what Dunican has said. That during the first half Offaly took a short kickout receiving defender passed to another defender who passed back to the keeper(All within the rules) but Maggie called for the ref to punish them saying ball went straight back from the short kickout and ref threw up the ball. Then close to the end when the keeper did receive the ball straight back he played the ball thinking the ref would throw the ball up again but this time he gave a free.

manfromdelmonte

imagine county players not knowing the rules.

oliverkelly

Quote from: manfromdelmonte on March 28, 2022, 02:05:27 PM
imagine county players not knowing the rules.
Refs not knowing them is a greater concern

screenexile

Quote from: oliverkelly on March 28, 2022, 02:03:11 PM
Spoke to an Offaly supporter and he confirmed what Dunican has said. That during the first half Offaly took a short kickout receiving defender passed to another defender who passed back to the keeper(All within the rules) but Maggie called for the ref to punish them saying ball went straight back from the short kickout and ref threw up the ball. Then close to the end when the keeper did receive the ball straight back he played the ball thinking the ref would throw the ball up again but this time he gave a free.

Someone said then maybe the receiving player wasn't 13m away so that was why the hop ball?

oliverkelly

Quote from: screenexile on March 28, 2022, 02:15:27 PM
Quote from: oliverkelly on March 28, 2022, 02:03:11 PM
Spoke to an Offaly supporter and he confirmed what Dunican has said. That during the first half Offaly took a short kickout receiving defender passed to another defender who passed back to the keeper(All within the rules) but Maggie called for the ref to punish them saying ball went straight back from the short kickout and ref threw up the ball. Then close to the end when the keeper did receive the ball straight back he played the ball thinking the ref would throw the ball up again but this time he gave a free.

Someone said then maybe the receiving player wasn't 13m away so that was why the hop ball?
Maybe but from what Dunican has said he believes both incidents were for the same infringement but if receiving player was inside D or less than 13m away it would make sense why ball was hopped.

seafoid

Down and Offaly get to play in the Tailteann Cup.

Bord na Mona man

Quote from: oliverkelly on March 28, 2022, 02:03:11 PM
Spoke to an Offaly supporter and he confirmed what Dunican has said. That during the first half Offaly took a short kickout receiving defender passed to another defender who passed back to the keeper(All within the rules) but Maggie called for the ref to punish them saying ball went straight back from the short kickout and ref threw up the ball. Then close to the end when the keeper did receive the ball straight back he played the ball thinking the ref would throw the ball up again but this time he gave a free.

Yes, it looks like the officials incorrectly thought Dunican received the straight back pass and brought the play back, while Offaly were launching a promising attack. However a hop ball was awarded which is not the correct sanction and may have lead to confusion later on.

https://twitter.com/JohnnoKinahan14/status/1508128978695073793

There is also an irony because the main driver for the rule introduction was as an antidote to Dublin boreball where they gave the ball back Cluxton to kill the game with long passages of recycling possession. In the case of Dunican he regularly bombs forward on the attack when he gets the ball.

Main Street

Quote from: Bord na Mona man on March 28, 2022, 02:54:30 PM
Quote from: oliverkelly on March 28, 2022, 02:03:11 PM
Spoke to an Offaly supporter and he confirmed what Dunican has said. That during the first half Offaly took a short kickout receiving defender passed to another defender who passed back to the keeper(All within the rules) but Maggie called for the ref to punish them saying ball went straight back from the short kickout and ref threw up the ball. Then close to the end when the keeper did receive the ball straight back he played the ball thinking the ref would throw the ball up again but this time he gave a free.

Yes, it looks like the officials incorrectly thought Dunican received the straight back pass and brought the play back, while Offaly were launching a promising attack. However a hop ball was awarded which is not the correct sanction and may have lead to confusion later on.

https://twitter.com/JohnnoKinahan14/status/1508128978695073793

There is also an irony because the main driver for the rule introduction was as an antidote to Dublin boreball where they gave the ball back Cluxton to kill the game with long passages of recycling possession. In the case of Dunican he regularly bombs forward on the attack when he gets the ball.
It looks more like the ball was adjudged by the lineswoman not to have traveled the required 13m distance, therefore the hop ball.
I think if the ref was okay with the kick out then it's not the job of the lines assistant to be splitting hairs over the actual distance.

Cavan19

Quote from: Main Street on March 28, 2022, 03:10:52 PM
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on March 28, 2022, 02:54:30 PM
Quote from: oliverkelly on March 28, 2022, 02:03:11 PM
Spoke to an Offaly supporter and he confirmed what Dunican has said. That during the first half Offaly took a short kickout receiving defender passed to another defender who passed back to the keeper(All within the rules) but Maggie called for the ref to punish them saying ball went straight back from the short kickout and ref threw up the ball. Then close to the end when the keeper did receive the ball straight back he played the ball thinking the ref would throw the ball up again but this time he gave a free.

Yes, it looks like the officials incorrectly thought Dunican received the straight back pass and brought the play back, while Offaly were launching a promising attack. However a hop ball was awarded which is not the correct sanction and may have lead to confusion later on.

https://twitter.com/JohnnoKinahan14/status/1508128978695073793

There is also an irony because the main driver for the rule introduction was as an antidote to Dublin boreball where they gave the ball back Cluxton to kill the game with long passages of recycling possession. In the case of Dunican he regularly bombs forward on the attack when he gets the ball.
It looks more like the ball was adjudged by the lineswoman not to have traveled the required 13m distance, therefore the hop ball.
I think if the ref was okay with the kick out then it's not the job of the lines assistant to be splitting hairs over the actual distance.

She was a good distance away to be able to tell also surely if there was a call to be made it was the linesman on that sides to make. It looked to have gone far enough from the clip above.

seafoid

Divison 2 - 29 pages
Division 1 - 110 pages

clawaddy

I must say as  a Derry fan the past couple of weeks have left a sour taste. While I agree with the comments from supporters that another year in D2 may not be a bad thing it ignores the fact that they were the victims of one of the most cynical actions carried out by any team in the league. There was a very good chance that McGuigan would have scored the free and the final league positions would have been reversed. To make matters worse the officials felt he should be sent off!! We feared Galway would field a shadow team yesterday and so it turned out with the game resembling a challenge match.