Down Club Hurling & Football

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thewobbler

Quote from: Dunsilly King on September 04, 2023, 11:52:59 AM
Can you clarify was the video footage not the official video being streamed, ie permission given by the CB?

This is an irrelevant point.

CCC should not and cannot be more inclined to proactively launch investigations and review footage from matches they live stream over other matches.

Can they get their hands on high quality footage here? Of course they can. But if they were to do so purely of their own accord, their actions would then be described as a witch hunt.

imtommygunn

So what triggers them to do an investigation into any incident if they have the appropriate video footage?

thewobbler

Quote from: imtommygunn on September 04, 2023, 01:09:15 PM
So what triggers them to do an investigation into any incident if they have the appropriate video footage?

1. If the referee's report highlights that an incident took place, which might require further investigation.

Or

2. One of the competing teams submits a complaint to the CCC and requests an investigation.

——

What people need to understand here is that it is not in CCC's interests to open an investigation unless requested to do so. By following this approach, they can be regarded as unbiased. The very moment a CCC member independently tries to launch an investigation, is the same moment that cries of a witch hunt echo out.

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imtommygunn

Quote from: thewobbler on September 04, 2023, 01:54:00 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 04, 2023, 01:09:15 PM
So what triggers them to do an investigation into any incident if they have the appropriate video footage?

1. If the referee's report highlights that an incident took place, which might require further investigation.

Or

2. One of the competing teams submits a complaint to the CCC and requests an investigation.

——

What people need to understand here is that it is not in CCC's interests to open an investigation unless requested to do so. By following this approach, they can be regarded as unbiased. The very moment a CCC member independently tries to launch an investigation, is the same moment that cries of a witch hunt echo out.

Thanks.

Carryduff then should 100% be putting in a complaint. That stuff there has no place on the field. Same for the Galway hurling incident.

johnnycool

Quote from: imtommygunn on September 04, 2023, 03:15:28 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on September 04, 2023, 01:54:00 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 04, 2023, 01:09:15 PM
So what triggers them to do an investigation into any incident if they have the appropriate video footage?

1. If the referee's report highlights that an incident took place, which might require further investigation.

Or

2. One of the competing teams submits a complaint to the CCC and requests an investigation.

——

What people need to understand here is that it is not in CCC's interests to open an investigation unless requested to do so. By following this approach, they can be regarded as unbiased. The very moment a CCC member independently tries to launch an investigation, is the same moment that cries of a witch hunt echo out.

Thanks.

Carryduff then should 100% be putting in a complaint. That stuff there has no place on the field. Same for the Galway hurling incident.

Teams don't want to be seen as sore losers and no one is entirely squeaky clean either, but yes it's time these cheap shots are called out.

Gone are the days a lad done anything like that to a teammate and they'd be nursing sore ribs the day after!

imtommygunn

There's a line though and that's way over it.

Square Ball

Quote from: ardtole on September 04, 2023, 12:57:42 PM
Johnny Glynn in yesterday's game on tg4 was outrageous, made Johnsons incident look tame in comparison.

Watched it, had to rewind just to be sure.
Hospitals are not equipped to treat stupid

dingle82

Need to clamp down of these incidents.

County Star

Quote from: imtommygunn on September 04, 2023, 03:15:28 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on September 04, 2023, 01:54:00 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 04, 2023, 01:09:15 PM
So what triggers them to do an investigation into any incident if they have the appropriate video footage?

1. If the referee's report highlights that an incident took place, which might require further investigation.

Or

2. One of the competing teams submits a complaint to the CCC and requests an investigation.

——

What people need to understand here is that it is not in CCC's interests to open an investigation unless requested to do so. By following this approach, they can be regarded as unbiased. The very moment a CCC member independently tries to launch an investigation, is the same moment that cries of a witch hunt echo out.

Thanks.

Carryduff then should 100% be putting in a complaint. That stuff there has no place on the field. Same for the Galway hurling incident.

Carryduff the whiter than white bastion of fair play  and decency ?

delgany

Quote from: County Star on September 05, 2023, 03:52:26 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 04, 2023, 03:15:28 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on September 04, 2023, 01:54:00 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 04, 2023, 01:09:15 PM
So what triggers them to do an investigation into any incident if they have the appropriate video footage?

1. If the referee's report highlights that an incident took place, which might require further investigation.

Or

2. One of the competing teams submits a complaint to the CCC and requests an investigation.

——

What people need to understand here is that it is not in CCC's interests to open an investigation unless requested to do so. By following this approach, they can be regarded as unbiased. The very moment a CCC member independently tries to launch an investigation, is the same moment that cries of a witch hunt echo out.

Thanks.

Carryduff then should 100% be putting in a complaint. That stuff there has no place on the field. Same for the Galway hurling incident.

Carryduff the whiter than white bastion of fair play  and decency ?

You have 3 days after game to request an investigation or lodge a complaint

downtothecore

If orahan murdock heads to aussie rules then that would be a big blow to down football.

ardtole

It would be a huge blow to Down and Burren. I came across the article yesterday, it said there were 2 week trial taking place in Australia at the end of this month, is he likely to miss any Burren sfc games?  Is he definitely going?

snoopdog

Big blow for Down and Burren. At moment it's just trials. I'd be surprised if he isn't offered a rookie contract with a club. If he gets the chance to play professional sport then best of luck to the lad.  Massive loss though.

Splash

Páirc Esler has been chosen as the venue to host the return of the hurling-shinty International Rules Series between Ireland and Scotland. An unexpected but welcome surprise. Was expecting to have to trek down the country, something just not as enjoyable in the winter months, so great that it is on the doorstep. Wouldn't know much about composite rules hurling, but whatever way you look at it, it's either an honour for Down to act as the home pitch for the national team playing the national sport of Ireland, or it's a great novelty and something to talk about. Either way, no bad thing.

Will be hopeful for an Irish victory- been nearly ten years apparently since Ireland last won a series.

Wonder how much of a feature Down players will get. Assuming that the competition will draw from players at the McDonagh/Ring level, as opposed to the MacCarhy level, surely you would expect to see a few Down heads in the mix? 

Great to see Páirc Esler getting a bit of use for stuff outside the purposes of Down GAA. Would be unreasonable to expect Newry to be treated like Clones or the Athletic Grounds, but it is a good location; where north meets south. Would never expect it to be used for Ulster or National League finals, but for stuff like All Ireland Club Semi Finals, matches between teams from down south and teams from Antirm/Derry, it could be a good choice.

Also glad Newry has been chosen and not McKenna Park in Ballycran. Ballycran is an absolute great club, and I'm sure it was never going to be considered, but more hurling needs to be showcased in Newry. I'm sure a lot of lads from the Ards will disagree, but it's great to have the hurling finals in Newry. It would be great if Down played more hurling games in Newry. I completely understand that people in the Ards will wonder where the wisdom is in moving 2 clubs across the county to play a game, but I think the more hurling is showcased in South Down, the better the effect for Down Hurling overall.
A lot of people in Down either view hurling as a minority game and underestimate the County's  standing, or view it as something those ones on the Ards Peninsula get up to so leave them at it. We simply cannot keep relying on 3 small, rural clubs to uphold the County Scene. Keeping hurling confided to the Ards, whilst handy for most, doesn't do anything to help the game.
If Bryansford were to play Kilcoo in the football final, we wouldn't expect the game to be held in Castlewellen. We'd expect it to be held in the county stadium. Hurling has to become of a similar mindset. Hurling has to spread beyond the Ards in order for Down to flourish, and opportunities like this are great for that.

But that's a discussion to be had next month when the inconvenience comes to life of people from the Ards having to drive over an hour just to watch their team play the parish that is normally 5 minutes down the road  :-X

In the meantime, it's great to know that Down GAA is playing host to an international hurling event, and hopefully plenty of Down Gaels take a notion to see what the craic is and go have a look.

Is it too early to start telling the Scots that the home of hurling isn't Thurles- it's Newry?