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« Reply #37650 on: May 15, 2018, 03:58:47 PM »
Was a feisty game to say the least in greencastle yesterday. Carson had the ball at the time of the incident and was a dirty hit but he got a red card and that should be the end of it. cant see how it warrants more than a 1 game suspension just because the injury sustained was more serious. why treat it differently than any other strike?

Outside of the left you cant actually think this small curly haired p***k didn't mean what he did? in a court of law it would be GBH simple as that, remember one punch incident can be life threatening as we know in Omagh in the past 5 years. no place for it anywhere let alone a football match.

Lough were winning by 5 when it happened the lad must be a complete tr**p to do such a thing.

The player that struck has a long running history of this type of thuggery. Only way to stop him from doing it is to remove him from playing!!

So if Mark Carson receives a career ending injury, What you are saying is a 1 match ban is enough?? Punishment doesn't fit the crime imo!!![/b]

the injury cant affect the suspension, the exact same incident could happen again next week and the player on the receiving end could jump back up and there wouldnt be a word about it. Worst thing is it wasnt even the dirtiest hit in the game
Aye the Loughmacrory corner backs strike on the Greencastle man in the build up to the Loughmacrory goal was a dirty hit to.
Sludden seen it and decided to ignore it just like the incident with Carson.

It is also worth mentioning the fact there were a lot of Greencastle men giving nasty hits throughout the pitch and the fact an individual player from Greencastle got black carded in the first half, made his way down to kick two Loughmacrory boys on the ground when the row was on. Not acceptable and if the Loughmacrory member who jumped the wire is punished, that man should be too.

Ok, we'll take your word mister "PG" or Loughmacrory Chairman lol

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Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« Reply #37651 on: May 15, 2018, 04:11:25 PM »
What are the rules on eligibility?
Are Errigal required to produce a list of players that aren't eligible for Thirds football at the start of the year?

http://tyronegaa.ie/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/2018-Tyrone-CCC-Regulations.pdf

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35. Where a club wishes to enter a third (and fourth) team into adult competitions, the third team must enter into the Div 3 ACL and the fourth team must enter Div 3 Reserve League.

36. Where a club wishes to enter a third (and fourth) team into adult competitions, their third (and fourth) team(s) may not compete in the same division as their first team and reserve team.

37. Where a club enters a third (and fourth) team into the adult competitions, they must name a panel of 40 players prior to the commencement of the competition, compliant with Rule 6.2 T.O. 2017, who may not play for their third (or fourth) team.

Exceptions:   
- Where a player on the ‘list of 40’ has not played for either the clubs first team or reserve team before 1st July, they may be permitted to regrade to the  third/fourth team with permission of CCC.
- Where a player, not on the ‘list of 40’, plays for the first and/or reserve team, they may not subsequently play for the thirds or fourths team.

In addition to the "list of 40" I understand that they also must submit a further list of nine players who are then ineligible to play in the Division 3 Reserve League, in common with all other teams in that division (10 players in Division 2 and 12 players in Division 1).
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Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« Reply #37652 on: May 15, 2018, 04:30:13 PM »
Errigal have the biggest pick of any club in Tyrone?

I'd say Omagh would run them close. Coalisland at stages can have up to 50 men out from what they tell me. Carrickmore used to be in this debate but men at that club could tell you better - think there was a football/hurling split some years ago caused a bit of bother. Don't think anyone else really gets close? Maybe Dromore?

Omagh probably doesn't have as big a pick as you might think. Remember Drumragh and Tattyreagh are the same parish and  a good portion of Omagh "town" is actually in Killyclogher parish. Errigal fielding 4 teams makes a bit of a mockery of the parish not being able to support 2 clubs which as far as I know was one of the main reasons for Glencull not being accepted by the county board.

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« Reply #37653 on: May 15, 2018, 05:02:26 PM »
Errigal have the biggest pick of any club in Tyrone?

I would say so They take in 2 parish's, my Club Clonoe are in Clonoe Parish with Brockagh,Derrylaughan and Derrytresk!!

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Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« Reply #37654 on: May 15, 2018, 05:24:48 PM »
Errigal have the biggest pick of any club in Tyrone?

I would say so They take in 2 parish's, my Club Clonoe are in Clonoe Parish with Brockagh,Derrylaughan and Derrytresk!!

Poor Clonoe!!! Many a parish has two or more clubs.

Not as if the Clonoe tentacles arent stuck in every junior club within five miles.

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« Reply #37655 on: May 15, 2018, 05:36:30 PM »
Errigal have the biggest pick of any club in Tyrone?

I would say so They take in 2 parish's, my Club Clonoe are in Clonoe Parish with Brockagh,Derrylaughan and Derrytresk!!

Poor Clonoe!!! Many a parish has two or more clubs.

Not as if the Clonoe tentacles arent stuck in every junior club within five miles.

We had one Senior player transferred to us from Derrytesk from 1990 no one from any other Club,so i am unsure what you mean...

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« Reply #37656 on: May 15, 2018, 05:43:57 PM »
What are the rules on eligibility?
Are Errigal required to produce a list of players that aren't eligible for Thirds football at the start of the year?

As far as I know if you play a senior/reserve league game you aren't eligible to play for the thirds.

Clubs that have a thirds team usually run it separately from their senior/reserve team. Usually more of a sociable/recreational atmosphere and not used in a way that if someone is starring they are promoted to the reserve/senior team.

Perhaps not in this case. Errigal are definitely playing some of their Div 1 players in the III's team whenever the thirds are playing on a different day to the Senior teams. Surely this isn't fair to the Junior Clubs?

To be fair to EC I dont think this has been the case either. Obviously cannot comment on every game but they do usually seem to have a pretty clear line between the two squads. I know they have had Senior or Ex Senior players in the past but thats fair enough if they have dropped to the thirds for a reason (Committment/Fitness/age etc). Errigal are actually at a disadvantage  as they will likely never have a "superstar" in their thirds team (like McShane etc for Owen Roes") as they will obviously be in the 1st team squad. I took a quick look at some of the players featuring in the last couple of matches and while a few players seem stronger than usual, as long as they arent swapping between the squads thats ok in my book. A testament to the strength in depth and numbers they get out (and catchment area no doubt  ;)) so fair play.

Geezus my heart bleeds for them. First world problems.

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« Reply #37657 on: May 15, 2018, 07:08:42 PM »
Was a feisty game to say the least in greencastle yesterday. Carson had the ball at the time of the incident and was a dirty hit but he got a red card and that should be the end of it. cant see how it warrants more than a 1 game suspension just because the injury sustained was more serious. why treat it differently than any other strike?

Outside of the left you cant actually think this small curly haired p***k didn't mean what he did? in a court of law it would be GBH simple as that, remember one punch incident can be life threatening as we know in Omagh in the past 5 years. no place for it anywhere let alone a football match.

Lough were winning by 5 when it happened the lad must be a complete tr**p to do such a thing.

The player that struck has a long running history of this type of thuggery. Only way to stop him from doing it is to remove him from playing!!

So if Mark Carson receives a career ending injury, What you are saying is a 1 match ban is enough?? Punishment doesn't fit the crime imo!!![/b]

the injury cant affect the suspension, the exact same incident could happen again next week and the player on the receiving end could jump back up and there wouldnt be a word about it. Worst thing is it wasnt even the dirtiest hit in the game
Aye the Loughmacrory corner backs strike on the Greencastle man in the build up to the Loughmacrory goal was a dirty hit to.
Sludden seen it and decided to ignore it just like the incident with Carson.

It is also worth mentioning the fact there were a lot of Greencastle men giving nasty hits throughout the pitch and the fact an individual player from Greencastle got black carded in the first half, made his way down to kick two Loughmacrory boys on the ground when the row was on. Not acceptable and if the Loughmacrory member who jumped the wire is punished, that man should be too.
Loughmacrory man jumping the fence is a serious offence, a much more serious offence than what you are writing above about.

As for a lot of nasty Greencastle hits. From all the posts ive gathered it was an intense game, lot going on, the Loughmacroy goal apparently came from a greencastle man getting struck off the ball and also the nastiest hit came from Loughmacrory who caused a serious injury, a melee and the game to be abandoned. So wouldn't just be sitting there trying to blame Greencastle for what happened.

What way is Mark Carson now from Sunday? I didn’t hear much else about him apart from some of the nonsense posted on here! hopefully on the better side of it!

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« Reply #37658 on: May 15, 2018, 08:27:03 PM »
Saw a screenshot of a post he sent in a watsapp group (assuming it's GC players group) from Monday morning saying all scans etc came back clear and he may have small fracture to his eye socket, although couldn't tell due to swelling. Was out of hospital that evening id assume. Hopefully he's back on the field asap.

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« Reply #37659 on: May 15, 2018, 09:34:39 PM »
Errigal have the biggest pick of any club in Tyrone?

I'd say Omagh would run them close. Coalisland at stages can have up to 50 men out from what they tell me. Carrickmore used to be in this debate but men at that club could tell you better - think there was a football/hurling split some years ago caused a bit of bother. Don't think anyone else really gets close? Maybe Dromore?
If they are fielding 4 teams including subs they would definitely have the biggest playing squad by a long way. However that may not correlate directly to the biggest pick, just the best retention of players.
I would think that if a couple of the other big clubs started to put out a third team to provide more playing opportunities their pick would soon increase.
There is plenty of us would like to play a bit of ball without having to train 3 days a week and follow a gym programme and diet.

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Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« Reply #37660 on: May 15, 2018, 11:30:18 PM »
Errigal have the biggest pick of any club in Tyrone?

I'd say Omagh would run them close. Coalisland at stages can have up to 50 men out from what they tell me. Carrickmore used to be in this debate but men at that club could tell you better - think there was a football/hurling split some years ago caused a bit of bother. Don't think anyone else really gets close? Maybe Dromore?
If they are fielding 4 teams including subs they would definitely have the biggest playing squad by a long way. However that may not correlate directly to the biggest pick, just the best retention of players.
I would think that if a couple of the other big clubs started to put out a third team to provide more playing opportunities their pick would soon increase.
There is plenty of us would like to play a bit of ball without having to train 3 days a week and follow a gym programme and diet.

Well tough luck mate,  football doesn't work like that. If you had that attitude even playing division 3, you'd be tanked every game. I would argue that You can't play football now at any level without doing the appropriate training. It's no Craic either when your not fit and your blowing out if your hole after 10 minutes trying to chase the opposition around the pitch. You want a handy time, then football isn't for you mate, you may go play bowls or something.

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Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« Reply #37661 on: May 16, 2018, 06:41:33 AM »
Didn't there used to be a recreational league

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« Reply #37662 on: May 16, 2018, 09:09:36 AM »
Have said it before on here; there's a requirement for a recreational league.
  • 8 weeks
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Its the sort of thing a club could run off as a fundraiser. Team entrance fees contributed by those playing, so no burden on the clubs represented. Club running it gets those fees.
They could even run it as a Garvaghy fundraiser and play the games up there
« Last Edit: May 16, 2018, 09:57:11 AM by WeeDonns »

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« Reply #37663 on: May 16, 2018, 10:29:01 AM »
Who will organise this league. There is underage girls and boys matches/training nearly every night on club pitches so getting at  evening that would suit all wouldn't happen. It would turn into a farce after a bit. Between injurys, clubs being open to injury claims as it wouldn't be sanctioned by the county board. Div 3 reserve football is as close as your get to something like that. Mental what some people can dream up off. Daydreamers half of Yous

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« Reply #37664 on: May 16, 2018, 10:48:10 AM »
debate but men at that club could tell you better - think there was a football/hurling split some years ago caused a bit of bother. Don't think anyone else really gets close? Maybe Dromore?
If they are fielding 4 teams including subs they would definitely have the biggest playing squad by a long way. However that may not correlate directly to the biggest pick, just the best retention of players.
I would think that if a couple of the other big clubs started to put out a third team to provide more playing opportunities their pick would soon
Errigal have the biggest pick of any club in Tyrone?

I'd say Omagh would run them close. Coalisland at stages can have up to 50 men out from what they tell me. Carrickmore used to be in this increase.
There is plenty of us would like to play a bit of ball without having to train 3 days a week and follow a gym programme and diet.

Well tough luck mate,  football doesn't work like that. If you had that attitude even playing division 3, you'd be tanked every game. I would argue that You can't play football now at any level without doing the appropriate training. It's no Craic either when your not fit and your blowing out if your hole after 10 minutes trying to chase the opposition around the pitch. You want a handy time, then football isn't for you mate, you may go play bowls or something.
I still manage the odd game but cheers for the fitness assessment.