NFL Division 1 2024

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Captain Obvious

Quote from: thewobbler on February 18, 2024, 07:52:08 PMThe one stroke of luck that Tyrone had that year was that Mayo took out Dublin.

Tyrone were probably a better side than Mayo at the time but I don't honestly believe they'd have beaten Dublin in 10 attempts. That 2018 final had them scarred beyond words.

I also do believe that's why so many of the Tyrone team have dropped performance levels and/ stepped away since then. They didn't ever expect to win an AI, as they didn't ever expect to beat Dublin. They were never going to have the greed or drive of KK hurlers or Dublin footballers. One wasn't plenty, but it was enough.

David Clifford getting injured in the semi final was another lucky break.

seafoid

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Rossfan

Davy doesn't do careful manager speak ;D
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

seafoid

Quote from: Rossfan on February 19, 2024, 07:05:37 PMDavy doesn't do careful manager speak ;D
He is such a breath of fresh air

Truthsayer

Quote from: Captain Obvious on February 19, 2024, 03:01:28 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on February 18, 2024, 07:52:08 PMThe one stroke of luck that Tyrone had that year was that Mayo took out Dublin.

Tyrone were probably a better side than Mayo at the time but I don't honestly believe they'd have beaten Dublin in 10 attempts. That 2018 final had them scarred beyond words.

I also do believe that's why so many of the Tyrone team have dropped performance levels and/ stepped away since then. They didn't ever expect to win an AI, as they didn't ever expect to beat Dublin. They were never going to have the greed or drive of KK hurlers or Dublin footballers. One wasn't plenty, but it was enough.

David Clifford getting injured in the semi final was another lucky break.
They didn't manage to win in the 70 minutes normal time with him so that arguement bit hypothetical...

Blowitupref

Quote from: seafoid on February 19, 2024, 07:18:01 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 19, 2024, 07:05:37 PMDavy doesn't do careful manager speak ;D
He is such a breath of fresh air
Looking more frustrated this year not helped with losing his two coaches to club teams, injuries to current panelists and good first choice players Conor Daly,Cian McKeon,Ciaran Murtagh opting out for the year.
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

Captain Obvious

Quote from: Truthsayer on February 19, 2024, 07:24:54 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on February 19, 2024, 03:01:28 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on February 18, 2024, 07:52:08 PMThe one stroke of luck that Tyrone had that year was that Mayo took out Dublin.

Tyrone were probably a better side than Mayo at the time but I don't honestly believe they'd have beaten Dublin in 10 attempts. That 2018 final had them scarred beyond words.

I also do believe that's why so many of the Tyrone team have dropped performance levels and/ stepped away since then. They didn't ever expect to win an AI, as they didn't ever expect to beat Dublin. They were never going to have the greed or drive of KK hurlers or Dublin footballers. One wasn't plenty, but it was enough.

David Clifford getting injured in the semi final was another lucky break.
They didn't manage to win in the 70 minutes normal time with him so that arguement bit hypothetical...

Didn't lose with him on the field either and lost by one point with him off the field. Won't get many to argue that Clifford going off injured was a lucky break for Tyrone.

weareros

The problem is if you are a manager that tends to say what's on your mind like Davy Burke, your comments will be a section on the podcasts as the 65 training sessions was on Parkinson's Smaller Fish and the RTE one above. The difference is at least Eamon Fitzmaurice knew that was normal if 3 + 2 gym sessions a week since early Nov whereas Wooly was as usual like the immature little child.

Davy however would be better off becoming a bit more like Jack O'Connor or Dessie Farrell and offer a few meaningless soundbytes, and also be a little less available to the media. Offering his level of detail is an unnecessary distraction to the team.

Truthsayer

Quote from: Captain Obvious on February 19, 2024, 07:32:27 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on February 19, 2024, 07:24:54 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on February 19, 2024, 03:01:28 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on February 18, 2024, 07:52:08 PMThe one stroke of luck that Tyrone had that year was that Mayo took out Dublin.

Tyrone were probably a better side than Mayo at the time but I don't honestly believe they'd have beaten Dublin in 10 attempts. That 2018 final had them scarred beyond words.

I also do believe that's why so many of the Tyrone team have dropped performance levels and/ stepped away since then. They didn't ever expect to win an AI, as they didn't ever expect to beat Dublin. They were never going to have the greed or drive of KK hurlers or Dublin footballers. One wasn't plenty, but it was enough.

David Clifford getting injured in the semi final was another lucky break.
They didn't manage to win in the 70 minutes normal time with him so that arguement bit hypothetical...

Didn't lose with him on the field either and lost by one point with him off the field. Won't get many to argue that Clifford going off injured was a lucky break for Tyrone.

Tyrone probably would have won anyway. Kerry had no defence, got Tally in to sort that out..

Sportacus

It was nice to see Canavan and McGrath having a good old fashioned one on one battle.  Both of them with the bit between their teeth.

ClubScene13

Quote from: weareros on February 19, 2024, 07:46:36 PMThe problem is if you are a manager that tends to say what's on your mind like Davy Burke, your comments will be a section on the podcasts as the 65 training sessions was on Parkinson's Smaller Fish and the RTE one above. The difference is at least Eamon Fitzmaurice knew that was normal if 3 + 2 gym sessions a week since early Nov whereas Wooly was as usual like the immature little child.

Davy however would be better off becoming a bit more like Jack O'Connor or Dessie Farrell and offer a few meaningless soundbytes, and also be a little less available to the media. Offering his level of detail is an unnecessary distraction to the team.

I'm sure Farrell is a good fella but interviewing him is a waste of everyone's time

From the Bunker

Farrell knows it's all about throwing sound bites and cliches that don't really tell you anything.

Horan used to do the same hiding behind his peaked cap.

Goals_Will_Come

In my opinion the big issue Tyrone face is in their half back and half forward lines. You take the top teams currently in contention for the All Ireland - Kerry, Dublin, Derry, Mayo. These teams have middle 8s who are full of pace, power, energy and line breaking ability as well as scores.
If you compare just with Derry our likely Ulster Semi Final opponents - they have Gareth McKinless, Conor Doherty, Padraig McGroogan, Ethan Doherty, Ciaran McFaul as well as Rodger and Glass. Tyrone on the other hand haven't the same level of player to go alongside Kennedy and Kilpatrick. Meyler is a massive loss in this area. The jury is out on how much legs Peter Harte has left. Seanie O'Donnell would bring some of what I mention into this area. After that it is hard to see where Tyrone can get the injection or impetus from - a return of form of McGeary would help, Oguz at club level has shown capabilities, there has been glimpses so far from Ben Cullen. I don't think the other options - Michael O'Neill, Frank Burns, Michael McGleenan, Cormac Quinn, Niall Devlin, Tarlach Quinn, Aodhan Donaghy - can bring to the table what we need to push towards those top teams again. Ultimately the best players for this are not on the panel - Tiernan McCann and Rory Brennan.
I think unless Tyrone resolve their issues in these lines of the field, they will stay behind in the chasing pack on the Div1/2 boundary.

Wildweasel74

G the arrogrance of just dismissing Donegal and Monaghan out of hand,