Hurling 2025

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NAG1

Strange weekend at the top table with none of the games being massively competitive.
Think Sheedy hit the nail on the head last night, too close to championship and trying to do it as a balancing act while trying to prep isn't working for the spectacle.

For what its worth IMO:
Limerick - looked back to somewhere close to their fluent best, KH getting injured could be a big blow.
Galway - I didnt think they were as bad as they looked, had some decent play and missed a load of chances and if you want to build a team then Gavin Lee would be a good place to start.
Cork - looked so sharp with massive motivation from the final last year, so will be challenging very strongly this year.
KK - possibly worst KK I've seen in my lifetime.
Tipp - progressing but think they will be found out when push comes to shove in the championship, but on upward trajectory.
Clare - hard to know where they are at, not sure they pack enough punch up front without SO'D. Conlon at 6 would be a concern going forward in terms of pace.



johnnycool

Quote from: NAG1 on March 10, 2025, 03:19:49 PMStrange weekend at the top table with none of the games being massively competitive.
Think Sheedy hit the nail on the head last night, too close to championship and trying to do it as a balancing act while trying to prep isn't working for the spectacle.

For what its worth IMO:
Limerick - looked back to somewhere close to their fluent best, KH getting injured could be a big blow.
Galway - I didnt think they were as bad as they looked, had some decent play and missed a load of chances and if you want to build a team then Gavin Lee would be a good place to start.
Cork - looked so sharp with massive motivation from the final last year, so will be challenging very strongly this year.
KK - possibly worst KK I've seen in my lifetime.
Tipp - progressing but think they will be found out when push comes to shove in the championship, but on upward trajectory.
Clare - hard to know where they are at, not sure they pack enough punch up front without SO'D. Conlon at 6 would be a concern going forward in terms of pace.




This is so true, but aside from that they have a serious group of forwards, enough to trouble most teams.

TJ aside as I think he's done at this level, the brain will only get you so far now, but they've Eoin Cody, Adrian Mullen, John Donnelly and Mossy Keoghan in there.

I don't think they have a bad defence in Lawlor, the Blanchfields, Mikey Carey, Butler etc, it's just that their hurling is aimless and so haphazard that they play short only for to puck the ball down on top of a lad outnumbered in their forwards and cough up possession so easily.
They will rely heavily on certain individuals doing wondrous things whereas Limerick can be down some star players and the next lad in will know his job and do it to the desired level.

They'll get out of Leinster as the standard there is lower than in Munster, but at present you'd say Tipp, Limerick and Cork are well ahead of them with Clare about the same unless they can find a kick in the next few weeks.
You'd still never write the hoors off, but that was poor enough stuff yesterday again.

seafoid

Quote from: johnnycool on March 10, 2025, 03:56:03 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 10, 2025, 03:19:49 PMStrange weekend at the top table with none of the games being massively competitive.
Think Sheedy hit the nail on the head last night, too close to championship and trying to do it as a balancing act while trying to prep isn't working for the spectacle.

For what its worth IMO:
Limerick - looked back to somewhere close to their fluent best, KH getting injured could be a big blow.
Galway - I didnt think they were as bad as they looked, had some decent play and missed a load of chances and if you want to build a team then Gavin Lee would be a good place to start.
Cork - looked so sharp with massive motivation from the final last year, so will be challenging very strongly this year.
KK - possibly worst KK I've seen in my lifetime.
Tipp - progressing but think they will be found out when push comes to shove in the championship, but on upward trajectory.
Clare - hard to know where they are at, not sure they pack enough punch up front without SO'D. Conlon at 6 would be a concern going forward in terms of pace.




This is so true, but aside from that they have a serious group of forwards, enough to trouble most teams.

TJ aside as I think he's done at this level, the brain will only get you so far now, but they've Eoin Cody, Adrian Mullen, John Donnelly and Mossy Keoghan in there.

I don't think they have a bad defence in Lawlor, the Blanchfields, Mikey Carey, Butler etc, it's just that their hurling is aimless and so haphazard that they play short only for to puck the ball down on top of a lad outnumbered in their forwards and cough up possession so easily.
They will rely heavily on certain individuals doing wondrous things whereas Limerick can be down some star players and the next lad in will know his job and do it to the desired level.

They'll get out of Leinster as the standard there is lower than in Munster, but at present you'd say Tipp, Limerick and Cork are well ahead of them with Clare about the same unless they can find a kick in the next few weeks.
You'd still never write the hoors off, but that was poor enough stuff yesterday again.

What's striking about Limerick is their accuracy.

johnnycool

Quote from: seafoid on March 10, 2025, 06:02:59 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on March 10, 2025, 03:56:03 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 10, 2025, 03:19:49 PMStrange weekend at the top table with none of the games being massively competitive.
Think Sheedy hit the nail on the head last night, too close to championship and trying to do it as a balancing act while trying to prep isn't working for the spectacle.

For what its worth IMO:
Limerick - looked back to somewhere close to their fluent best, KH getting injured could be a big blow.
Galway - I didnt think they were as bad as they looked, had some decent play and missed a load of chances and if you want to build a team then Gavin Lee would be a good place to start.
Cork - looked so sharp with massive motivation from the final last year, so will be challenging very strongly this year.
KK - possibly worst KK I've seen in my lifetime.
Tipp - progressing but think they will be found out when push comes to shove in the championship, but on upward trajectory.
Clare - hard to know where they are at, not sure they pack enough punch up front without SO'D. Conlon at 6 would be a concern going forward in terms of pace.




This is so true, but aside from that they have a serious group of forwards, enough to trouble most teams.

TJ aside as I think he's done at this level, the brain will only get you so far now, but they've Eoin Cody, Adrian Mullen, John Donnelly and Mossy Keoghan in there.

I don't think they have a bad defence in Lawlor, the Blanchfields, Mikey Carey, Butler etc, it's just that their hurling is aimless and so haphazard that they play short only for to puck the ball down on top of a lad outnumbered in their forwards and cough up possession so easily.
They will rely heavily on certain individuals doing wondrous things whereas Limerick can be down some star players and the next lad in will know his job and do it to the desired level.

They'll get out of Leinster as the standard there is lower than in Munster, but at present you'd say Tipp, Limerick and Cork are well ahead of them with Clare about the same unless they can find a kick in the next few weeks.
You'd still never write the hoors off, but that was poor enough stuff yesterday again.

What's striking about Limerick is their accuracy.

They are accurate because they are so well drilled in what is expected from them in numerous scenarios and any deviation won't be tolerated.

It still sticks in my mind Kiely going buck daft at Aaron Guillane who had the audacity to try put a sideline over the bar in the dying seconds of the 2023 AI final with the win already in the bag.
That is deemed a waste of possession in Limerick.

seafoid

Quote from: johnnycool on March 10, 2025, 08:30:01 PM
Quote from: seafoid on March 10, 2025, 06:02:59 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on March 10, 2025, 03:56:03 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 10, 2025, 03:19:49 PMStrange weekend at the top table with none of the games being massively competitive.
Think Sheedy hit the nail on the head last night, too close to championship and trying to do it as a balancing act while trying to prep isn't working for the spectacle.

For what its worth IMO:
Limerick - looked back to somewhere close to their fluent best, KH getting injured could be a big blow.
Galway - I didnt think they were as bad as they looked, had some decent play and missed a load of chances and if you want to build a team then Gavin Lee would be a good place to start.
Cork - looked so sharp with massive motivation from the final last year, so will be challenging very strongly this year.
KK - possibly worst KK I've seen in my lifetime.
Tipp - progressing but think they will be found out when push comes to shove in the championship, but on upward trajectory.
Clare - hard to know where they are at, not sure they pack enough punch up front without SO'D. Conlon at 6 would be a concern going forward in terms of pace.




This is so true, but aside from that they have a serious group of forwards, enough to trouble most teams.

TJ aside as I think he's done at this level, the brain will only get you so far now, but they've Eoin Cody, Adrian Mullen, John Donnelly and Mossy Keoghan in there.

I don't think they have a bad defence in Lawlor, the Blanchfields, Mikey Carey, Butler etc, it's just that their hurling is aimless and so haphazard that they play short only for to puck the ball down on top of a lad outnumbered in their forwards and cough up possession so easily.
They will rely heavily on certain individuals doing wondrous things whereas Limerick can be down some star players and the next lad in will know his job and do it to the desired level.

They'll get out of Leinster as the standard there is lower than in Munster, but at present you'd say Tipp, Limerick and Cork are well ahead of them with Clare about the same unless they can find a kick in the next few weeks.
You'd still never write the hoors off, but that was poor enough stuff yesterday again.

What's striking about Limerick is their accuracy.

They are accurate because they are so well drilled in what is expected from them in numerous scenarios and any deviation won't be tolerated.

It still sticks in my mind Kiely going buck daft at Aaron Guillane who had the audacity to try put a sideline over the bar in the dying seconds of the 2023 AI final with the win already in the bag.
That is deemed a waste of possession in Limerick.
It's the training alright. When you see it live it's amazing.

marty34

Quote from: seafoid on March 12, 2025, 02:28:36 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on March 10, 2025, 08:30:01 PM
Quote from: seafoid on March 10, 2025, 06:02:59 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on March 10, 2025, 03:56:03 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 10, 2025, 03:19:49 PMStrange weekend at the top table with none of the games being massively competitive.
Think Sheedy hit the nail on the head last night, too close to championship and trying to do it as a balancing act while trying to prep isn't working for the spectacle.

For what its worth IMO:
Limerick - looked back to somewhere close to their fluent best, KH getting injured could be a big blow.
Galway - I didnt think they were as bad as they looked, had some decent play and missed a load of chances and if you want to build a team then Gavin Lee would be a good place to start.
Cork - looked so sharp with massive motivation from the final last year, so will be challenging very strongly this year.
KK - possibly worst KK I've seen in my lifetime.
Tipp - progressing but think they will be found out when push comes to shove in the championship, but on upward trajectory.
Clare - hard to know where they are at, not sure they pack enough punch up front without SO'D. Conlon at 6 would be a concern going forward in terms of pace.




This is so true, but aside from that they have a serious group of forwards, enough to trouble most teams.

TJ aside as I think he's done at this level, the brain will only get you so far now, but they've Eoin Cody, Adrian Mullen, John Donnelly and Mossy Keoghan in there.

I don't think they have a bad defence in Lawlor, the Blanchfields, Mikey Carey, Butler etc, it's just that their hurling is aimless and so haphazard that they play short only for to puck the ball down on top of a lad outnumbered in their forwards and cough up possession so easily.
They will rely heavily on certain individuals doing wondrous things whereas Limerick can be down some star players and the next lad in will know his job and do it to the desired level.

They'll get out of Leinster as the standard there is lower than in Munster, but at present you'd say Tipp, Limerick and Cork are well ahead of them with Clare about the same unless they can find a kick in the next few weeks.
You'd still never write the hoors off, but that was poor enough stuff yesterday again.

What's striking about Limerick is their accuracy.

They are accurate because they are so well drilled in what is expected from them in numerous scenarios and any deviation won't be tolerated.

It still sticks in my mind Kiely going buck daft at Aaron Guillane who had the audacity to try put a sideline over the bar in the dying seconds of the 2023 AI final with the win already in the bag.
That is deemed a waste of possession in Limerick.
It's the training alright. When you see it live it's amazing.


It's the players. Once in a generation squad. Like the great KK team. All about the players. Put in the work at underage and through the academies.

All they need now is 1 or 2 players coming through every year.

They can all play anywhere. Barry Nash could play corner forward and nobody would bat an eyelid. WOD could slot in No. 6. Adam English can play anywhere.

It's the players.

Milltown Row2

They have the size and the skill, at the start it looked more like they bullied teams in some areas of the pitch and their marquee players did their bit, but skill is up and down through that squad and you only have to appreciate how good they are..

They aint going nowhere yet and will take a knockout performance to see them put out 
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

johnnycool

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 12, 2025, 04:24:54 PMThey have the size and the skill, at the start it looked more like they bullied teams in some areas of the pitch and their marquee players did their bit, but skill is up and down through that squad and you only have to appreciate how good they are..

They aint going nowhere yet and will take a knockout performance to see them put out 

They'll certainly be about come the divvying out of the cups in both Munster and the AI although Cork do seem to have their number in the last few exchanges.

I'll stick my head out and say we'll be looking at Cork-Limerick Munster final and a Cork-Limerick AI final?

Cork need a Munster final win more than Limerick but the money would be on Limerick in an AI final.

I still have my reservations about Cork, but Clare have slipped back a bit, O'Donnell a huge loss and KK look to be disorganised.

Tipp will do well to come out of Munster.

Galway, Wex, Dublin would be the also rans at the minute.


seafoid

Quote from: johnnycool on March 13, 2025, 12:21:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 12, 2025, 04:24:54 PMThey have the size and the skill, at the start it looked more like they bullied teams in some areas of the pitch and their marquee players did their bit, but skill is up and down through that squad and you only have to appreciate how good they are..

They aint going nowhere yet and will take a knockout performance to see them put out 

They'll certainly be about come the divvying out of the cups in both Munster and the AI although Cork do seem to have their number in the last few exchanges.

I'll stick my head out and say we'll be looking at Cork-Limerick Munster final and a Cork-Limerick AI final?

Cork need a Munster final win more than Limerick but the money would be on Limerick in an AI final.

I still have my reservations about Cork, but Clare have slipped back a bit, O'Donnell a huge loss and KK look to be disorganised.

Tipp will do well to come out of Munster.

Galway, Wex, Dublin would be the also rans at the minute.


Leinster could be won by Galway. Agree on Tipp in Munster. Clare, Limerick and Cork look more likely.

ardtole

Does anyone have any idea when the Munster shc tickets go on sale? I'm hoping to go to Clare v Tipp in Ennis this year.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: ardtole on March 15, 2025, 07:06:50 AMDoes anyone have any idea when the Munster shc tickets go on sale? I'm hoping to go to Clare v Tipp in Ennis this year.

Do they go on ticketmaster? Would imagine it goes through the clubs? Probably not depending on the ground
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

Saffrongael

Kilkenny haven't gone away you know
Let no-one say the best hurlers belong to the past. They are with us now, and better yet to come

Milltown Row2

None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

ardtole

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 15, 2025, 09:49:41 AM
Quote from: ardtole on March 15, 2025, 07:06:50 AMDoes anyone have any idea when the Munster shc tickets go on sale? I'm hoping to go to Clare v Tipp in Ennis this year.

Do they go on ticketmaster? Would imagine it goes through the clubs? Probably not depending on the ground

I got 4 tickets for Cork v Limerick last year in Supervalu, I'm looking for 4 this year for Clare v Tipp in Ennis.

Could be harder this year with the smaller capacity in Ennis, but in recent years the Tipp support hasn't travelled in great numbers.

I'd like to know when they go on sale, just to give me the best opportunity of getting them.

NAG1

Quote from: Saffrongael on March 15, 2025, 09:56:20 PMKilkenny haven't gone away you know

Limerick looked like they had put a serious week of training in ahead of that game, they were so off it in every department.