Oscar Pistorius

Started by BennyHarp, February 14, 2013, 07:46:55 AM

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Minder

Quote from: hardstation on February 17, 2013, 06:39:26 PM
Should have stuck to the valentines surprise/intruder story tbh.

Shoot the door open ffs!

I suppose he would have had bother kicking the door in.
"When it's too tough for them, it's just right for us"

muppet

Quote from: Minder on February 17, 2013, 06:32:54 PM
Quote from: muppet on February 17, 2013, 05:11:46 PM
Quote from: Smokin Joe on February 17, 2013, 05:01:24 PM
...back on topic.

His family seem pretty assertive that it wasn't pre-mediated murder.

I'll love to know what they claim the sequence of events to be.

She was shot 4 times through a bathroom door apparently. It isn't clear whether the shooting was out of, or into, the bathroom.

The self-defence argument could be problematic if the shooting through the door story is true.

According to the Sunday Times today they reckon his defence will be she locked herself in the bathroom and he was just trying to shoot the door open but plugged her instead.

Time for some new lawyers.
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Tony Baloney

Quote from: Minder on February 17, 2013, 06:41:49 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 17, 2013, 06:39:26 PM
Should have stuck to the valentines surprise/intruder story tbh.

Shoot the door open ffs!

I suppose he would have had bother kicking the door in.
Very funny but disgusting comment. Shame.

Smokin Joe

#63
So we got to hear his version of events today:

"In a statement read out by his lawyer, the Paralympic and Olympic star said the two were in bed asleep on Wednesday night when he got up and went to the balcony to close a sliding door and get a fan. He heard a noise in the bathroom and assumed it was an intruder, he said. Feeling vulnerable without his prosthetic legs, he got his gun and shot through the door, he said. He then saw that Steenkamp was not in bed, he said. He broke the bathroom door down with a cricket bat, he said; Steenkamp was still alive but died in his arms. He denied that he had murdered her, saying nothing could be further from the truth."

That is one tall story. 
He shoots through the bathroom door at an intruder (excessive force springs to mind even if it was an intruder) but he assumes that Reeva was still in bed.  You would think that before you opened fire you would try to be certain that herself was indeed still in the bed.

The Prosector rightly followed it up with:

"Even if he thought she was a burglar, it was still premeditated murder.  But he asked why a burglar would lock himself in the toilet. "

Tony Baloney

Quote from: Smokin Joe on February 19, 2013, 01:23:52 PM
So we got to hear his version of events today:

"In a statement read out by his lawyer, the Paralympic and Olympic star said the two were in bed asleep on Wednesday night when he got up and went to the balcony to close a sliding door and get a fan. He heard a noise in the bathroom and assumed it was an intruder, he said. Feeling vulnerable without his prosthetic legs, he got his gun and shot through the door, he said. He then saw that Steenkamp was not in bed, he said. He broke the bathroom door down with a cricket bat, he said; Steenkamp was still alive but died in his arms. He denied that he had murdered her, saying nothing could be further from the truth."

That is one tall story. 
He shoots through the bathroom door at an intruder (excessive force springs to mind even if it was an intrduer) but he assumes that Reeva was still in bed.  You would think that before you opened fire you would try to be certain that herself was indeed still in the bed.
You would check things out a wee bit wouldn't you! Regardless of whether it was an intruder, a draft from an open window or an animal that came in through the window, you would at the very least shout out before opening the door if you suspected an intruder, rather than blasting 5 holes in it! I hope he likes porridge.

muppet

Quote from: Smokin Joe on February 19, 2013, 01:23:52 PM
So we got to hear his version of events today:

"In a statement read out by his lawyer, the Paralympic and Olympic star said the two were in bed asleep on Wednesday night when he got up and went to the balcony to close a sliding door and get a fan. He heard a noise in the bathroom and assumed it was an intruder, he said. Feeling vulnerable without his prosthetic legs, he got his gun and shot through the door, he said. He then saw that Steenkamp was not in bed, he said. He broke the bathroom door down with a cricket bat, he said; Steenkamp was still alive but died in his arms. He denied that he had murdered her, saying nothing could be further from the truth."

That is one tall story. 
He shoots through the bathroom door at an intruder (excessive force springs to mind even if it was an intruder) but he assumes that Reeva was still in bed.  You would think that before you opened fire you would try to be certain that herself was indeed still in the bed.

The Prosector rightly followed it up with:

"Even if he thought she was a burglar, it was still premeditated murder.  But he asked why a burglar would lock himself in the toilet. "

Quotehe got up and went to the balcony to close a sliding door

How terrified was he of burglars if he went to sleep with a balcony sliding door open? It will be interesting to see the layout of the house and bathroom in particular.
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seafoid

I was talking to a Sith Ifrikin today and he said Mr Pistorius  has a history of violence. 
Very sad end for his career and he was a role model to so many people. 

tyssam5

Quote from: Smokin Joe on February 19, 2013, 01:23:52 PM
So we got to hear his version of events today:

"In a statement read out by his lawyer, the Paralympic and Olympic star said the two were in bed asleep on Wednesday night when he got up and went to the balcony to close a sliding door and get a fan. He heard a noise in the bathroom and assumed it was an intruder, he said. Feeling vulnerable without his prosthetic legs, he got his gun and shot through the door, he said. He then saw that Steenkamp was not in bed, he said. He broke the bathroom door down with a cricket bat, he said; Steenkamp was still alive but died in his arms. He denied that he had murdered her, saying nothing could be further from the truth."

That is one tall story. 
He shoots through the bathroom door at an intruder (excessive force springs to mind even if it was an intruder) but he assumes that Reeva was still in bed.  You would think that before you opened fire you would try to be certain that herself was indeed still in the bed.

The Prosector rightly followed it up with:

"Even if he thought she was a burglar, it was still premeditated murder.  But he asked why a burglar would lock himself in the toilet. "

I would notice whether or not she was in my bed!

bottom brick

Quote from: tyssam5 on February 19, 2013, 06:02:17 PM
Quote from: Smokin Joe on February 19, 2013, 01:23:52 PM
So we got to hear his version of events today:

"In a statement read out by his lawyer, the Paralympic and Olympic star said the two were in bed asleep on Wednesday night when he got up and went to the balcony to close a sliding door and get a fan. He heard a noise in the bathroom and assumed it was an intruder, he said. Feeling vulnerable without his prosthetic legs, he got his gun and shot through the door, he said. He then saw that Steenkamp was not in bed, he said. He broke the bathroom door down with a cricket bat, he said; Steenkamp was still alive but died in his arms. He denied that he had murdered her, saying nothing could be further from the truth."

That is one tall story. 
He shoots through the bathroom door at an intruder (excessive force springs to mind even if it was an intruder) but he assumes that Reeva was still in bed.  You would think that before you opened fire you would try to be certain that herself was indeed still in the bed.

The Prosector rightly followed it up with:

"Even if he thought she was a burglar, it was still premeditated murder.  But he asked why a burglar would lock himself in the toilet. "

I would notice whether or not she was in my bed!
You would at the present time anyway
Shoot for dough, pass for show...

Over the Bar

disability-related 'roid-rage' (i.e. steroids f**king up his head) seems to be the suggested fall-back position when his story is seen for what it is.

muppet

Investigating Detective: Botha: we found two bottles of testosterone and needles
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muppet

Botha says to get to the bathroom from the balcony you have to go past the bed.
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muppet

Botha: The window leading from the toilet looks onto the backyard where there were two dogs.
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muppet

Botha: Once in the bathroom toilet there's no way out. The window is small. If you make it through you'll fall.
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orangeman

It gets worse for Oscar.

As the prosecution began setting out its case on Wednesday, it said a witness had testified to hearing "non-stop talking like fighting" between the hours of 02:00 and 03:00.

Mr Pistorius claims he was asleep until only moments before the shooting and that there was no argument between the couple.

Ms Steenkamp was "dressed" at the time of the shooting, the prosecution said.

The chief investigating officer Hilton Botha took the stand, saying he arrived at the house at 04:15 and found Ms Steenkamp lying dead on the ground floor.

She was wearing white shorts and a black vest and was covered in towels, he said.

A lawyer and Mr Pistorius's brother were already at the scene.


Mr Botha said a memory stick was recovered with details of Mr Pistorius's offshore bank accounts - and claimed that made him a flight risk.