Ulster Club IFC/JFC 2023

Started by DownFanatic, September 19, 2023, 12:35:21 PM

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DownFanatic

Ulster IFC

5/11/23 - Preliminary Round


Teemore (Fermanagh) v Liatroim (Down)

12/11/23 - Quarter Finals

Glenullin, Banagher (Derry) v Glenravel (Antrim)

Ballyhaise (Cavan) v Downings (Donegal)

Pomeroy, Moy (Tyrone) v Cullyhanna (Armagh)

Killanny, Carrickmacross (Monaghan) v Teemore/Liatroim (Fermanagh/Down)


Ulster JFC

29/10/23 - Preliminary Round


Ballyhegan (Armagh) v Fintona (Tyrone)

5/11/23 - Quarter Finals

Ballymaguigan (Derry) v Arva (Cavan)

Na Rossa (Donegal) v Lisnaskea (Fermanagh)

Blackhill (Monaghan) v Rasharkin (Antim)

Ballyhegan, Fintona (Armagh/Tyrone) v Drumaness (Down)

Milltown Row2

Why is there a difference between clubs at Junior level playing clubs from different counties to Senior and Intermd.?
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

clarshack

How would Ballyhegan compare to last year's champions Derrynoose?

armaghniac

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 23, 2023, 03:17:53 PMWhy is there a difference between clubs at Junior level playing clubs from different counties to Senior and Intermd.?

Senior champions is the best club in the county. The intermediate and junior champions are rather contrived subdivisions which are not the same in every county.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

Milltown Row2

Quote from: armaghniac on October 26, 2023, 10:44:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 23, 2023, 03:17:53 PMWhy is there a difference between clubs at Junior level playing clubs from different counties to Senior and Intermd.?

Senior champions is the best club in the county. The intermediate and junior champions are rather contrived subdivisions which are not the same in every county.

But senior and intermediate is drawn the same, just junior it same.

Also GAA shouldn't be an elitist organisation, bringing junior and intermediate is their best idea for a while
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

Armagh18

Quote from: clarshack on October 26, 2023, 07:34:17 PMHow would Ballyhegan compare to last year's champions Derrynoose?
They'd be a fair bit off. They've a couple of lads who'd be fit to play on any team in the county but they were hammered by a seconds team in county final. Derrynoose be a fair bit stronger

clarshack

Quote from: Armagh18 on October 27, 2023, 12:23:52 AM
Quote from: clarshack on October 26, 2023, 07:34:17 PMHow would Ballyhegan compare to last year's champions Derrynoose?
They'd be a fair bit off. They've a couple of lads who'd be fit to play on any team in the county but they were hammered by a seconds team in county final. Derrynoose be a fair bit stronger

Would expect Fintona to win then by at least what Clann Eireann seconds won by.

general_lee

Quote from: clarshack on October 27, 2023, 10:50:32 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on October 27, 2023, 12:23:52 AM
Quote from: clarshack on October 26, 2023, 07:34:17 PMHow would Ballyhegan compare to last year's champions Derrynoose?
They'd be a fair bit off. They've a couple of lads who'd be fit to play on any team in the county but they were hammered by a seconds team in county final. Derrynoose be a fair bit stronger

Would expect Fintona to win then by at least what Clann Eireann seconds won by.
I'd expect a cricket score. Junior football in Armagh isn't strong at all.

Armagh18

Quote from: general_lee on October 27, 2023, 10:58:24 AM
Quote from: clarshack on October 27, 2023, 10:50:32 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on October 27, 2023, 12:23:52 AM
Quote from: clarshack on October 26, 2023, 07:34:17 PMHow would Ballyhegan compare to last year's champions Derrynoose?
They'd be a fair bit off. They've a couple of lads who'd be fit to play on any team in the county but they were hammered by a seconds team in county final. Derrynoose be a fair bit stronger

Would expect Fintona to win then by at least what Clann Eireann seconds won by.
I'd expect a cricket score. Junior football in Armagh isn't strong at all.
Yeah the only time we'd ever have a decent team at junior is when theres a team just dropped down or else a team that probably should have been promoted in previous years but were u lucky for one reason or another. Derrynoose i think were unlucky last year if I remember as were Belleek a few years back. Probably the strongest team in a while with 3 county lads Forkhill missed out on Ulster due to covid. Ironically one of our stronger intermediate team Clan Na Gael missed out the same year.

DownFanatic

Down probably have the most honest Championship structure in Ulster, maybe Ireland. Our Junior teams are proper Junior teams. There are very few if any anomalies. That's why our record is so poor at Ulster JFC level.

ClubScene13

Quote from: DownFanatic on October 27, 2023, 12:51:32 PMDown probably have the most honest Championship structure in Ulster, maybe Ireland. Our Junior teams are proper Junior teams. There are very few if any anomalies. That's why our record is so poor at Ulster JFC level.

How so? If there are 47 clubs in Tyrone and we've split them 16 Senior, 16 intermediate and 15 junior can it be done any fairer than that?

general_lee

Quote from: ClubScene13 on October 27, 2023, 02:49:36 PM
Quote from: DownFanatic on October 27, 2023, 12:51:32 PMDown probably have the most honest Championship structure in Ulster, maybe Ireland. Our Junior teams are proper Junior teams. There are very few if any anomalies. That's why our record is so poor at Ulster JFC level.

How so? If there are 47 clubs in Tyrone and we've split them 16 Senior, 16 intermediate and 15 junior can it be done any fairer than that?
Same with Armagh. 16 senior, 16 intermediate and 14 junior (was 16 but a couple of teams folded)

tonto1888

Quote from: ClubScene13 on October 27, 2023, 02:49:36 PM
Quote from: DownFanatic on October 27, 2023, 12:51:32 PMDown probably have the most honest Championship structure in Ulster, maybe Ireland. Our Junior teams are proper Junior teams. There are very few if any anomalies. That's why our record is so poor at Ulster JFC level.

How so? If there are 47 clubs in Tyrone and we've split them 16 Senior, 16 intermediate and 15 junior can it be done any fairer than that?

same in Armagh

clarshack

Think Monaghan is split evenly 3 ways as well.

Armagh18

Quote from: DownFanatic on October 27, 2023, 12:51:32 PMDown probably have the most honest Championship structure in Ulster, maybe Ireland. Our Junior teams are proper Junior teams. There are very few if any anomalies. That's why our record is so poor at Ulster JFC level.
Ours is the same our clubs are just shite tbh. Could really do with reducing each championship to 12 and bringing in a junior b championship because most of our mid to low end senior teams would be intermediate standard in most counties and most lower intermediate teams are really junior level.