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GAA Discussion / Re: New rules at club level
Last post by thewobbler - Today at 12:06:53 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on Today at 11:34:59 AMQuote from: thebigfullforward on Today at 10:42:24 AMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on April 01, 2025, 07:28:50 PMWhat's the craic with the 3 up then? Went to a minor game and the ref seen that there was only 2 up. Didn't give a free and just told one of the players to get back in their own half. Don't mind if it's like that as the player had no impact on the play and would be silly to punish someone because of it. I'm guessing it'll be like a 3 strikes thing where you could get away with it 2 or 3 times but after that a frees givenQuote from: Delgany 2nds on April 01, 2025, 07:23:38 PMIn the two games, I've viewed the club refs are ignoring the keeping 3 up rules!
By and large yeah. Mainly as they are on their own and not mic'd up and everyone is claiming a team is breaking the rule!
I'm not sure how they thought this one through
Was he over 4 meters from the line? Wasn't interfering with play? The ref's have too much on their plate to be looking behind them and counting players , lads over at the sideline getting a drink you look up the pitch and only see 2 and blowing the whistle, its bonkers.. It takes 5 seconds to look round but what if the ref misses something up the pitch, like a penalty call? Sorry lads I was taking 5 seconds to check and see if someone broke the line? Be murdered
I'd hazard a guess and say the only time it can be properly done is at championship matches, linesmen and umpires and fourth official all mic'd up, there will be no buzzers either at club games championship and all as they'll have not used them all year so using it in those games would be unfair, I only know of one ground that has the buzzer in place
My refereeing experience is minimal - about 20 x u12 games - but one thing I learned, even at that kindergarten level, is that when you turn around to see what's going on behind you, you will tend to miss important stuff that you should see, where the ball is now.
It's put me firmly in the camp that when a referee misses something / is unsure about something, he has to run with a gut instinct and focus immediately on what's in front of him, or else he will miss something more important again.
Turning around for 5 seconds is not an option.
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Laois / Re: Underage squads 2024
Last post by Laois Rising - Today at 12:05:56 PMI would not say we were doing anything to different to what other counties were doing in the late 90s and into the 00s. We had a serious crop of players in the 80s who inspire a generation into the 90s and this generation inspired many of the 00s cohort. Laois teams consistently challenged at minor and U21 level and were always a match for anyone in Leinster.
However, we have not kept pace with the advancements in coaching of the last 15 years and we also struggle in the numbers game. Kildare, Meath and Dublin have put huge time into investing in their underage and growing their playing numbers in football. It is impossible really for us to compete with these counties as our playing numbers do not stack up. We also cannot get enough top coaches to invest time and commit to coaching and bringing teams all of the way up through the underage ranks. I'm not sure what the county board can do about that though-they cannot force people to give up their time freely to coach and train teams.
You see in Dublin, they have a panel of 30 minor players and could easily field another 30 of similar standard. With the manager and coaches all mostly northsiders the vast majority of squad comes from the northside of the county. My point being that these lads are being exposed to a very competitive level of club football and obtaining a squad place is very hard got. A lot of very talented players missed out completely on making the panel, especially a couple of Cuala and Kilmacud lads. It's the same for Meath and Kildare. In Laois, we certainly do not have that luxury. Our best bet is when a good group of players come through e.g. the 2019 u20 team who lost to Dublin in the final and to ensure that the right people are involved with the team and can get the maximum from them.
Until such time as we tap into and grow our playing numbers we are not going to be able to compete as we once did between the 80s and 00s where we won six Leinster u21 titles. Portlaoise holds the key to this but it requires huge number of people and resources to shift the dynamic in the town and the reality is a second club is needed there to make this happen.
However, we have not kept pace with the advancements in coaching of the last 15 years and we also struggle in the numbers game. Kildare, Meath and Dublin have put huge time into investing in their underage and growing their playing numbers in football. It is impossible really for us to compete with these counties as our playing numbers do not stack up. We also cannot get enough top coaches to invest time and commit to coaching and bringing teams all of the way up through the underage ranks. I'm not sure what the county board can do about that though-they cannot force people to give up their time freely to coach and train teams.
You see in Dublin, they have a panel of 30 minor players and could easily field another 30 of similar standard. With the manager and coaches all mostly northsiders the vast majority of squad comes from the northside of the county. My point being that these lads are being exposed to a very competitive level of club football and obtaining a squad place is very hard got. A lot of very talented players missed out completely on making the panel, especially a couple of Cuala and Kilmacud lads. It's the same for Meath and Kildare. In Laois, we certainly do not have that luxury. Our best bet is when a good group of players come through e.g. the 2019 u20 team who lost to Dublin in the final and to ensure that the right people are involved with the team and can get the maximum from them.
Until such time as we tap into and grow our playing numbers we are not going to be able to compete as we once did between the 80s and 00s where we won six Leinster u21 titles. Portlaoise holds the key to this but it requires huge number of people and resources to shift the dynamic in the town and the reality is a second club is needed there to make this happen.
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GAA Discussion / Re: New rules at club level
Last post by Milltown Row2 - Today at 11:57:30 AMI've tried to manage it, I've looked behind me, I've called a few of them and only got one right, I'm saying, and I've been in the game long enough, its impossible unless the right measures are in place, a stand alone referee has more on his plate to worry about with these rules being brought in and the ramifications that each rule has.
Players and management shouting at the ref will possibly be deemed as dissent and could then go against the team at times, so I would recommend players and management at my club to let the ref get on with it.
I would say to anyone that is wondering how hard it is, would be to take control of an in house game, just to get some sort of idea as to the differences there has been since the new rules has come in, I've been explaining them and players and managers are still not sure, as for the experts behind the wire, well ....
Players and management shouting at the ref will possibly be deemed as dissent and could then go against the team at times, so I would recommend players and management at my club to let the ref get on with it.
I would say to anyone that is wondering how hard it is, would be to take control of an in house game, just to get some sort of idea as to the differences there has been since the new rules has come in, I've been explaining them and players and managers are still not sure, as for the experts behind the wire, well ....
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Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
Last post by imtommygunn - Today at 11:56:02 AMThere looked like a very small amount to clubs. I saw something on one of the club's social media.
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Antrim / Re: Antrim Hurling
Last post by Upandover - Today at 11:52:29 AMSarsfields were playing u10 go games in down last year also.
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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and H...
Last post by Onthe40 - Today at 11:49:21 AMagree
with the playoff incentive gone... league seasons for many could be over half way through..
would be inclined to keep playoffs but keep top of table outright winner change
with the playoff incentive gone... league seasons for many could be over half way through..
would be inclined to keep playoffs but keep top of table outright winner change
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Antrim / Re: Antrim Hurling
Last post by Na Glinntà Glasa - Today at 11:46:55 AMAgreed.
The fact that Sarsfields want to travel to get games tells a tale.
The County development wanted to stop kids playing U14 NA league on a sat so that they could train the players. A nice idea that suited them but what about all the other kids that don't play county?
No hurling on a sat means a chance to go play another sport like rugby or soccer. Eventually its easier to work with it than playing during the week in an already cramped calendar.
Personally for me Gaelfast is not working.
The fact that Sarsfields want to travel to get games tells a tale.
The County development wanted to stop kids playing U14 NA league on a sat so that they could train the players. A nice idea that suited them but what about all the other kids that don't play county?
No hurling on a sat means a chance to go play another sport like rugby or soccer. Eventually its easier to work with it than playing during the week in an already cramped calendar.
Personally for me Gaelfast is not working.
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GAA Discussion / Re: New rules at club level
Last post by thebigfullforward - Today at 11:46:44 AMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on Today at 11:34:59 AMThey were well up the pitch by this stage. They had 2 inside and the next closest one was around the 45m mark. As I said don't mind it too much that they weren't punished for it even though the ref seen it but was just wondering how often teams can get away with it. You can't be allowed to break the rules with nothing done about it lol. And I completely agree refs have too much to do at underage and senior club games. They had too much to do without the new rules never mind nowQuote from: thebigfullforward on Today at 10:42:24 AMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on April 01, 2025, 07:28:50 PMWhat's the craic with the 3 up then? Went to a minor game and the ref seen that there was only 2 up. Didn't give a free and just told one of the players to get back in their own half. Don't mind if it's like that as the player had no impact on the play and would be silly to punish someone because of it. I'm guessing it'll be like a 3 strikes thing where you could get away with it 2 or 3 times but after that a frees givenQuote from: Delgany 2nds on April 01, 2025, 07:23:38 PMIn the two games, I've viewed the club refs are ignoring the keeping 3 up rules!
By and large yeah. Mainly as they are on their own and not mic'd up and everyone is claiming a team is breaking the rule!
I'm not sure how they thought this one through
Was he over 4 meters from the line? Wasn't interfering with play? The ref's have too much on their plate to be looking behind them and counting players , lads over at the sideline getting a drink you look up the pitch and only see 2 and blowing the whistle, its bonkers.. It takes 5 seconds to look round but what if the ref misses something up the pitch, like a penalty call? Sorry lads I was taking 5 seconds to check and see if someone broke the line? Be murdered
I'd hazard a guess and say the only time it can be properly done is at championship matches, linesmen and umpires and fourth official all mic'd up, there will be no buzzers either at club games championship and all as they'll have not used them all year so using it in those games would be unfair, I only know of one ground that has the buzzer in place
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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and H...
Last post by GaaGPT - Today at 11:40:34 AMBe alot of dead rubber games near end of the seasons
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General discussion / Re: Hamas attack Israel & sub...
Last post by LC - Today at 11:39:06 AMhttps://news.sky.com/story/israel-announces-military-operation-expanding-in-gaza-to-seize-large-areas-13340265
The ethnic cleansing continues.
The ethnic cleansing continues.