The Many Faces of US Politics...

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Truthsayer

Quote from: whitey on February 05, 2025, 08:14:52 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on February 05, 2025, 06:57:38 PM
Quote from: whitey on February 05, 2025, 06:50:28 PMSo following the "logic" shared on this board, if Dissident Republicans had been able to oust SinnFein/IRA (at the outset of the peace process) they would have been completely justified in continuing the conflict and derailing the entire peace process

Interesting
Following your logic, if Dissident Republicans had ousted SF/IRA (as you call them... DUP speak!) it would have been their fault if the British then bombed nationalist areas killing 10s of 1000s of civilians.

No-that's not what I said

I said that if the path to peace in Northern Ireland had been upended by Dissident Republicans that would have been a perfectly legitimate move for some of the posters on here and they would have supported it (using their Gaza/Hamas logic as applied to their own situation)


Aye there are people here support the dissidents. If the British had carpet bombed nationalist areas as McCrea proposed, no-one would have said, you knew that would happen.. apart from you.

theskull1

Hard to believe the number of folk who can't yet see who controls our world.

https://x.com/TheOfficial1984/status/1886986198473703618
It's a lot easier to sing karaoke than to sing opera

clarshack

Quote from: theskull1 on February 05, 2025, 09:45:14 PMHard to believe the number of folk who can't yet see who controls our world.

https://x.com/TheOfficial1984/status/1886986198473703618

Trump was never one of the good guys but at least he has just banned trans in women's sports.

Eamonnca1

Indeed. 0.008% of the NCAA's athletes are transgender. Good to see top priority items being dealt with. ~sarc

J70

Did they ban trans-men from men's sports? Or does no one care because they're not as competitive?

Regardless, this is simply not a hill worth dying on for the Dems. Fight for stuff like equal protection and their right to serve in the military. The sports thing just doesn't have the popular support.

And for the love of god get away from the ridiculous nonsense that took place in the DNC last week. It was like an SNL skit or something Monty Python would produce if they were working today...

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/02/dnc-meeting/681548/

Speaking to the Democratic National Committee, which met to select its new leadership this weekend, the outgoing chair, Jaime Harrison, attempted to explain a point about its rules concerning gender balance for its vice-chair race. "The rules specify that when we have a gender-nonbinary candidate or officer, the nonbinary individual is counted as neither male nor female, and the remaining six officers must be gender balanced," Harrison announced.

As the explanation became increasingly intricate, Harrison's elucidation grew more labored. "To ensure our process accounts for male, female, and nonbinary candidates, we conferred with our [Rules and Bylaws Committee] co-chair, our LGBT Caucus co-chair, and others to ensure that the process is inclusive and meets the gender-balance requirements in our rules," he added. "To do this, our process will be slightly different than the one outlined to you earlier this week, but I hope you will see that in practice, it is simple and transparent."

seafoid

Serious pushback on Musk and Doge. Both legal and organised Labor. This is one area where the Dems can make progress. Musk has no authority to shut down anything.

whitey

Quote from: J70 on February 07, 2025, 05:18:24 PMDid they ban trans-men from men's sports? Or does no one care because they're not as competitive?

Regardless, this is simply not a hill worth dying on for the Dems. Fight for stuff like equal protection and their right to serve in the military. The sports thing just doesn't have the popular support.

And for the love of god get away from the ridiculous nonsense that took place in the DNC last week. It was like an SNL skit or something Monty Python would produce if they were working today...

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/02/dnc-meeting/681548/

Speaking to the Democratic National Committee, which met to select its new leadership this weekend, the outgoing chair, Jaime Harrison, attempted to explain a point about its rules concerning gender balance for its vice-chair race. "The rules specify that when we have a gender-nonbinary candidate or officer, the nonbinary individual is counted as neither male nor female, and the remaining six officers must be gender balanced," Harrison announced.

As the explanation became increasingly intricate, Harrison's elucidation grew more labored. "To ensure our process accounts for male, female, and nonbinary candidates, we conferred with our [Rules and Bylaws Committee] co-chair, our LGBT Caucus co-chair, and others to ensure that the process is inclusive and meets the gender-balance requirements in our rules," he added. "To do this, our process will be slightly different than the one outlined to you earlier this week, but I hope you will see that in practice, it is simple and transparent."


Jesus-I was almost embarrassed for them

And then Chuck Schumer and Granny Warren leading the chant on a bunch of empty slogans

The thing about the transgender sports is a much bigger deal than some people are making it out to be

Just one example here in New England-Girls Ice Hockey is huge

Parents can pay in the tens of thousands of dollars per year for their kids to play at the highest level. The commitment required is bordering on insanity.  These girls essentially put their lives on hold for 5-6 years in order to make a D1 or D2 college team.

So after all that your kid could possibly get seriously injured, miss out on a lucrative scholarship, lose a high profile championship game etc etc, just because some biological male (who'd never  make the boys team) is suffering from gender dysphoria and starts playing on the girls team

No wonder people are up in arms

RadioGAAGAA

... and thats why the Dems make themselves unelectable.

Chasing daft fringe cases.

Worse, chasing daft nonsensical fringe cases too!
i usse an speelchekor

Eamonnca1

Quote from: RadioGAAGAA on February 07, 2025, 06:14:24 PM... and thats why the Dems make themselves unelectable.

Chasing daft fringe cases.

Worse, chasing daft nonsensical fringe cases too!

Are you being serious? This is the Republican playbook. Transgender people are a vanishingly small segment of the population, but the moral panic that has been stirred up about them in the last few years has been completely out of proportion. How can you blame Dems for that?

Tony Baloney

Quote from: Eamonnca1 on February 07, 2025, 08:51:22 PM
Quote from: RadioGAAGAA on February 07, 2025, 06:14:24 PM... and thats why the Dems make themselves unelectable.

Chasing daft fringe cases.

Worse, chasing daft nonsensical fringe cases too!

Are you being serious? This is the Republican playbook. Transgender people are a vanishingly small segment of the population, but the moral panic that has been stirred up about them in the last few years has been completely out of proportion. How can you blame Dems for that?
Bullshit. Trans activists have tried to bully the right-minded majority into accepting that it is perfectly normal for men to participate in women's sport or share their toilets or changing areas. Perfectly normal to fire puberty blockers into confused children. I for one am glad to see a turning of the tide.

whitey

Quote from: Tony Baloney on February 07, 2025, 09:02:05 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on February 07, 2025, 08:51:22 PM
Quote from: RadioGAAGAA on February 07, 2025, 06:14:24 PM... and thats why the Dems make themselves unelectable.

Chasing daft fringe cases.

Worse, chasing daft nonsensical fringe cases too!

Are you being serious? This is the Republican playbook. Transgender people are a vanishingly small segment of the population, but the moral panic that has been stirred up about them in the last few years has been completely out of proportion. How can you blame Dems for that?
Bullshit. Trans activists have tried to bully the right-minded majority into accepting that it is perfectly normal for men to participate in women's sport or share their toilets or changing areas. Perfectly normal to fire puberty blockers into confused children. I for one am glad to see a turning of the tide.

There's a kid who lives about 5 houses away from me

He "transitioned" from a boy to a girl.

But they/he/she is a Lesbian and is in a "relationship" with another girl who's also a lesbian

He was a weird kid growing up-always doing crazy things looking for attention. Threatened to kill himself many times to blackmail the parents into letting him do whatever the hell he wanted

He's about as transgender as I am. All a big act. Parents 100% to blame

Eamonnca1

Quote from: Tony Baloney on February 07, 2025, 09:02:05 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on February 07, 2025, 08:51:22 PM
Quote from: RadioGAAGAA on February 07, 2025, 06:14:24 PM... and thats why the Dems make themselves unelectable.

Chasing daft fringe cases.

Worse, chasing daft nonsensical fringe cases too!

Are you being serious? This is the Republican playbook. Transgender people are a vanishingly small segment of the population, but the moral panic that has been stirred up about them in the last few years has been completely out of proportion. How can you blame Dems for that?
Bullshit. Trans activists have tried to bully the right-minded majority into accepting that it is perfectly normal for men to participate in women's sport or share their toilets or changing areas. Perfectly normal to fire puberty blockers into confused children. I for one am glad to see a turning of the tide.

Serious question: How has your life been impacted by trans people, or "men" as you call them, participating in women's sports?

trueblue1234

Quote from: Eamonnca1 on February 07, 2025, 09:59:18 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on February 07, 2025, 09:02:05 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on February 07, 2025, 08:51:22 PM
Quote from: RadioGAAGAA on February 07, 2025, 06:14:24 PM... and thats why the Dems make themselves unelectable.

Chasing daft fringe cases.

Worse, chasing daft nonsensical fringe cases too!

Are you being serious? This is the Republican playbook. Transgender people are a vanishingly small segment of the population, but the moral panic that has been stirred up about them in the last few years has been completely out of proportion. How can you blame Dems for that?
Bullshit. Trans activists have tried to bully the right-minded majority into accepting that it is perfectly normal for men to participate in women's sport or share their toilets or changing areas. Perfectly normal to fire puberty blockers into confused children. I for one am glad to see a turning of the tide.

Serious question: How has your life been impacted by trans people, or "men" as you call them, participating in women's sports?
not to speak for anyone else. But I would be fairly left side of centre. And while I have no bother with people calling themselves whatever they want and would support that right. But where I draw the line is when that starts to negatively impact others. Sport highlights this issue for me. I understand there are grey areas but I can't get on board with it. I think there has to be a line, if not for fairness, for safety. I have no issue with a Trans category if required.
Not directly impacted I suppose other than mild annoyance at what I see as an unfair sporting advantage.
Grammar: the difference between knowing your shit

Eamonnca1

Do you not think that sports governing bodies should be the ones setting the rules though? I'm damned if I know why the finer points of eligibility rules for women's volleyball should be regulated by the federal government, but reproductive rights should be at the whims of the states.

If you've found yourself getting wound up by this topic then it shows how effective the ruse is. Wealth inequality in the US is higher now than it was in France just before the revolution, and what are the crowds getting outraged about? The 0.008% of NCAA athletes who are transgender.

The people need to keep their eye on the ball. The transgender moral panic is a manufactured sideshow to distract the people from the fact that they're being robbed blind.

trueblue1234

Quote from: Eamonnca1 on February 07, 2025, 10:20:47 PMDo you not think that sports governing bodies should be the ones setting the rules though? I'm damned if I know why the finer points of eligibility rules for women's volleyball should be regulated by the federal government, but reproductive rights should be at the whims of the states.

If you've found yourself getting wound up by this topic then it shows how effective the ruse is. Wealth inequality in the US is higher now than it was in France just before the revolution, and what are the crowds getting outraged about? The 0.008% of NCAA athletes who are transgender.

The people need to keep their eye on the ball. The transgender moral panic is a manufactured sideshow to distract the people from the fact that they're being robbed blind.
100% agree but who's fault is it that it's getting so much airtime. The Republicans might push it but do the Dems need to fight it so fiercely given the level of support? And this wouldn't be something that would impact my political view anyway as it's not a huge issue.
As J70 said, it's not a hill to die on for me. And just gives the Republicans grist for the mill.
Grammar: the difference between knowing your shit