Meath vs Dublin - Leinster final - the day before the fair.

[Rossfan]

Attendances are way down on the late 90s
The GAA killed its golden goose

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/as-officials-waffle-on-the-leinster-championship-burns-to-the-ground-1.3935149

That Bolger is a real "Comical Ali" altogether.
Was it him that came out with the "mean spirited" comment about Donegal's Motion?

[sid waddell]

No Ulster or Connacht team beat a Leinster or Munster team in the championship from 1973 to 1991.

Winning margins in championship matches between Leinster/Munster teams and Ulster/Connacht teams in that period were, 5, 17, 5, 16, 3, 12, 12, 11, 22, 1, 3, 16, 6, 10, 1, 2, 12, 9, 6 (replay), 8 (replay), 8, 7, 11 (replay), 11, 5, 3, 7, 8.

Out of 31 matches, about 7 or 8 were genuinely competitive.

But sure things were better in the old days, or something.

What on earth did people do without a tiered championship in those days?

Leinster used to be competitive even if Ulster and Connacht couldn't beat the winners
And there was no official funding in the mix

Competition in Leinster was always greatly overstated

Any more than two teams in the reckoning was rare and a historical aberration

Munster has never been competitive

From 1973 to 1991 the best teams in Ulster and Connacht were cannon fodder

Connacht were cannon fodder up to the mid 90s

[Blowitupref]

No Ulster or Connacht team beat a Leinster or Munster team in the championship from 1973 to 1991.

Winning margins in championship matches between Leinster/Munster teams and Ulster/Connacht teams in that period were, 5, 17, 5, 16, 3, 12, 12, 11, 22, 1, 3, 16, 6, 10, 1, 2, 12, 9, 6 (replay), 8 (replay), 8, 7, 11 (replay), 11, 5, 3, 7, 8.

Out of 31 matches, about 7 or 8 were genuinely competitive.

But sure things were better in the old days, or something.

What on earth did people do without a tiered championship in those days?

Leinster used to be competitive even if Ulster and Connacht couldn't beat the winners
And there was no official funding in the mix

Competition in Leinster was always greatly overstated

Any more than two teams in the reckoning was rare and a historical aberration

Munster has never been competitive

From 1973 to 1991 the best teams in Ulster and Connacht were cannon fodder

Connacht were cannon fodder up to the mid 90s

I'm not old enough to remember the 70s but i do recall Mayo 89 and Roscommon 91 who were tough competitive teams and were not easy to beat.

[Rossfan]

1979, 1980, 1982, 1983, 1985, 1986, 1987, 1988,1989 1991.
Weren't "cannon fodder" in those years anyway.

[RadioGAAGAA]

Well done Dublin. Once again we see how good volunteer coaching can make all the difference. Take note Mayo, Tyrone, Kildare and Meath. Yesterday was all about the volunteer coach and what can be achieved if you work harder. It is now up to the chasing bunch to up their game. Well done again Dublin. 10 in a row beckons.

Ah, thats good.

It'd mean you'd have no issues with the GAA immediately stopping the €17m funding put into Dublin every year and spreading it out around the rest of the country.

[Itchy]

Dublin are a great team, even when they don't even play well for 35 minutes they end up trashing the 2nd best team in their province and only concede 4 points. Having watched the Ulster final I believe the only team with the strength, skill and athleticism to possibly give them a game now is Donegal.

For Meath, while we all know the odds are stacked with the financial doping of Dublin, that does not explain why a county like Meath can only score 4 points. That was a pathetic attempt. I'd expect any team in Leinster to get at least 10 points in a game against Dublin.

[Cunny Funt]

The attendance was good when compared to the other provincial finals and taking into account the terrible weather and the fact that ninety percent of the crowd were Dublin supporters.

Lets do the maths. 90% of 47,027 attendance was Dubs who have a population 1.3 million.  A good attendance?  counties with 60 to 150,000 population and are able to bring 15 to 20,000 to games to support their team is what i would regard as a good attendance.

[Shamrock Shore]

That was a pathetic attempt. I'd expect any team in Leinster to get at least 10 points in a game against Dublin.

True - we scored 10 pts last year with 14 men for 75% of the game. Ok we conceded more in that game than Meath but 4pts in a 70 min game really is bottom of barrel stuff. And I don't want to have a pop at Meath cos we're no world beaters but really..........

[seafoid]

No Ulster or Connacht team beat a Leinster or Munster team in the championship from 1973 to 1991.

Winning margins in championship matches between Leinster/Munster teams and Ulster/Connacht teams in that period were, 5, 17, 5, 16, 3, 12, 12, 11, 22, 1, 3, 16, 6, 10, 1, 2, 12, 9, 6 (replay), 8 (replay), 8, 7, 11 (replay), 11, 5, 3, 7, 8.

Out of 31 matches, about 7 or 8 were genuinely competitive.

But sure things were better in the old days, or something.

What on earth did people do without a tiered championship in those days?

Leinster used to be competitive even if Ulster and Connacht couldn't beat the winners
And there was no official funding in the mix

Competition in Leinster was always greatly overstated

Any more than two teams in the reckoning was rare and a historical aberration

Munster has never been competitive

From 1973 to 1991 the best teams in Ulster and Connacht were cannon fodder

Connacht were cannon fodder up to the mid 90s

Dublin are 3 or 4 standard deviations away from business as usual
14 Leinsters out of 15 is monopoly behaviour

Find any other period where they won 14 out of 15
They have 58 in total

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leinster_Senior_Football_Championship
1891, 1892, 1894, 1896, 1897, 1898, 1899, 1901, 1902, 1904, 1906, 1907, 1908, 1920, 1921, 1922, 1923, 1924, 1932, 1933, 1934, 1941, 1942, 1955, 1958, 1959, 1962, 1963, 1965, 1974, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1978, 1979, 1983, 1984, 1985, 1989, 1992, 1993, 1994, 1995, 2002, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019

The argument has to be stats based at this stage rather than he said she said 

The Dubs have 58 and next 4 have 54 which implies mean is about 50% for the Dubs, not 98%

[Keyser soze]

The complete lack of conviction from the Meath forwards was incredible, they obviously were beaten before a ball was kicked, there was not too much performance wise between the 2 teams for 60 mins, but the inability to score from simple frees or clear shooting chances visibly drained the Meath effort as the game progressed.

A big part of Dublins invincibility is the aura that they cannot be beaten, some Meath players clearly had succumbed to that before a ball was kicked.

As indeed have all the other teams in Leinster who also fail to put up a fight. I did feel sorry for the 10[ish] Meath lads who were up for the battle yesterday. 

[TheGreatest]

Well done Dublin, another historical milestone, a great performance in terrible conditions and did it with honour abnd pride in the competion. Meath good in parts except for their shooting and final third play. good tackling and hard hits was done well for the majority of the game. I never get tired of winning and beating our closest neighbour and rival. Hoping for 10 in a row next year.

Stephen Cluxton is third in the most Leinster wins with 15, just behind Meath.

Great attendance of just under 50K. Majority Dublin fans.  I would say 80/20. A shockingly bad day with heavey rain.

Biggest concern is the injury to James McCarthy, irreplaceable.

[From the Bunker]

No Ulster or Connacht team beat a Leinster or Munster team in the championship from 1973 to 1991.

Winning margins in championship matches between Leinster/Munster teams and Ulster/Connacht teams in that period were, 5, 17, 5, 16, 3, 12, 12, 11, 22, 1, 3, 16, 6, 10, 1, 2, 12, 9, 6 (replay), 8 (replay), 8, 7, 11 (replay), 11, 5, 3, 7, 8.

Out of 31 matches, about 7 or 8 were genuinely competitive.

But sure things were better in the old days, or something.

What on earth did people do without a tiered championship in those days?

The 'Troubles' had a huge bearing on teams from the north.
And immigration in the west was a huge problem.

[Owenmoresider]

No Ulster or Connacht team beat a Leinster or Munster team in the championship from 1973 to 1991.

Winning margins in championship matches between Leinster/Munster teams and Ulster/Connacht teams in that period were, 5, 17, 5, 16, 3, 12, 12, 11, 22, 1, 3, 16, 6, 10, 1, 2, 12, 9, 6 (replay), 8 (replay), 8, 7, 11 (replay), 11, 5, 3, 7, 8.

Out of 31 matches, about 7 or 8 were genuinely competitive.

But sure things were better in the old days, or something.

What on earth did people do without a tiered championship in those days?

Leinster used to be competitive even if Ulster and Connacht couldn't beat the winners
And there was no official funding in the mix

Competition in Leinster was always greatly overstated

Any more than two teams in the reckoning was rare and a historical aberration

Munster has never been competitive

From 1973 to 1991 the best teams in Ulster and Connacht were cannon fodder

Connacht were cannon fodder up to the mid 90s

Apart from Roscommon coming quite close to toppling Kerry in 1980 and Galway being good enough to win an AI but contriving to lose to 12 men in 1983. And Mayo going close in 89 too. Roscommon and Galway both won leagues in that late 70's/early 80's period too.

And if a few balls had bounced differently Limerick could have won 2/3 Munster titles in the last decade, and Tipp another, but sure the winners write the history 

[RadioGAAGAA]

but sure the winners write the history 

or sid is a contrary c**t.

Take yer pick 

[sid waddell]

No Ulster or Connacht team beat a Leinster or Munster team in the championship from 1973 to 1991.

Winning margins in championship matches between Leinster/Munster teams and Ulster/Connacht teams in that period were, 5, 17, 5, 16, 3, 12, 12, 11, 22, 1, 3, 16, 6, 10, 1, 2, 12, 9, 6 (replay), 8 (replay), 8, 7, 11 (replay), 11, 5, 3, 7, 8.

Out of 31 matches, about 7 or 8 were genuinely competitive.

But sure things were better in the old days, or something.

What on earth did people do without a tiered championship in those days?

The 'Troubles' had a huge bearing on teams from the north.
And immigration in the west was a huge problem.

Ulster teams won All-Irelands in 1991, 1992, 1993 and 1994

The Troubles were still very much going in 1994

Emigration has always been a problem