Tailteann Cup 2022

Started by twohands!!!, April 24, 2022, 07:56:12 PM

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pbat

Would like to see Kilkenny follow there win today by putting a league team out.

Blowitupref

Quote from: pbat on July 11, 2022, 12:55:24 AM
Would like to see Kilkenny follow there win today by putting a league team out.

Long overdue a return to the NFL, 2012 since they last played in it?
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

seafoid

Jack Cooney, the winning Westmeath manager, was very impressive. He bought into the concept of the Tailteann cup fully, got the tactics right and did good interviews.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

6th sam

Quote from: Fionntamhnach on July 11, 2022, 02:50:46 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 11, 2022, 02:19:11 AM
Quote from: pbat on July 11, 2022, 12:55:24 AM
Would like to see Kilkenny follow there win today by putting a league team out.

Long overdue a return to the NFL, 2012 since they last played in it?

IIRC in the last couple of seasons they were in the NFL they were shipping some right hammerings, even against London, Waterford & Wicklow IIRC. It's one thing entering a team into the league, it's another getting eligible players that are of a competitive standard to want to play for them, especially as football is primarily a winter/ early spring activity for most clubs there before the hurling starts to get going. You can take a horse to water, and all that...

Where I have a problem with Kilkenny is that most counties invest heavily in two sports, they only have to invest heavily in hurling. Counties who do not promote both sports should be penalised financially to level the playing field

seafoid

Quote from: 6th sam on July 11, 2022, 08:51:21 AM
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on July 11, 2022, 02:50:46 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 11, 2022, 02:19:11 AM
Quote from: pbat on July 11, 2022, 12:55:24 AM
Would like to see Kilkenny follow there win today by putting a league team out.

Long overdue a return to the NFL, 2012 since they last played in it?

IIRC in the last couple of seasons they were in the NFL they were shipping some right hammerings, even against London, Waterford & Wicklow IIRC. It's one thing entering a team into the league, it's another getting eligible players that are of a competitive standard to want to play for them, especially as football is primarily a winter/ early spring activity for most clubs there before the hurling starts to get going. You can take a horse to water, and all that...

Where I have a problem with Kilkenny is that most counties invest heavily in two sports, they only have to invest heavily in hurling. Counties who do not promote both sports should be penalised financially to level the playing field
Football is weak in Wexford, Limerick, Kilkenny and Waterford and has minority status  in Tipp, Cork and Clare.  Only in Offaly, Galway, Antrim  and Dublin is there parity of esteem. Football is dominant in Down and Laois. Where do you draw the line ?
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

Itchy

Quote from: 6th sam on July 11, 2022, 08:51:21 AM
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on July 11, 2022, 02:50:46 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 11, 2022, 02:19:11 AM
Quote from: pbat on July 11, 2022, 12:55:24 AM
Would like to see Kilkenny follow there win today by putting a league team out.

Long overdue a return to the NFL, 2012 since they last played in it?

IIRC in the last couple of seasons they were in the NFL they were shipping some right hammerings, even against London, Waterford & Wicklow IIRC. It's one thing entering a team into the league, it's another getting eligible players that are of a competitive standard to want to play for them, especially as football is primarily a winter/ early spring activity for most clubs there before the hurling starts to get going. You can take a horse to water, and all that...

Where I have a problem with Kilkenny is that most counties invest heavily in two sports, they only have to invest heavily in hurling. Counties who do not promote both sports should be penalised financially to level the playing field

I think that's rubbish. Investing 10s of thousands into a sport in a county where there is no interest is a waste of money. Likewise small counties like cavan should stop wasting money on hurling too.

Eire90

are u so called true gael if you think hurling or football funding should be scrapped

marty34

Quote from: seafoid on July 11, 2022, 08:15:25 AM
Jack Cooney, the winning Westmeath manager, was very impressive. He bought into the concept of the Tailteann cup fully, got the tactics right and did good interviews.

It was a success.

Teams will buy into it more next year although there could be a few dead rubbers in the group stages but it's here to stay.

By the way, how do Westmeath get into the Sam Maguire next year?

Itchy

Quote from: Eire90 on July 11, 2022, 10:25:17 AM
are u so called true gael if you think hurling or football funding should be scrapped

Never claimed so be a "so called true gael". That's my opinion. Do one thing and do it right when you can barely afford to do one thing. Big counties like Dublin, Cork, galway and Antrim etc can probably do both - good for them.

seafoid

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Quote from: marty34 on July 11, 2022, 10:26:22 AM
Quote from: seafoid on July 11, 2022, 08:15:25 AM
Jack Cooney, the winning Westmeath manager, was very impressive. He bought into the concept of the Tailteann cup fully, got the tactics right and did good interviews.

It was a success.

Teams will buy into it more next year although there could be a few dead rubbers in the group stages but it's here to stay.

By the way, how do Westmeath get into the Sam Maguire next year?
I think like this year

7 counties got a bye plus a preliminary round to make 8 in Ulster . This year 2 counties were chosen at random for the preliminary round.
Next year I imagine Westmeath would be in a preliminary round of the qualifiers
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_All-Ireland_Senior_Football_Championship#All-Ireland_Qualifiers

"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

Rossfan

New system next year as voted in by Congress in February.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

twohands!!!

Quote from: marty34 on July 11, 2022, 10:26:22 AM
Quote from: seafoid on July 11, 2022, 08:15:25 AM
Jack Cooney, the winning Westmeath manager, was very impressive. He bought into the concept of the Tailteann cup fully, got the tactics right and did good interviews.

It was a success.

Teams will buy into it more next year although there could be a few dead rubbers in the group stages but it's here to stay.

By the way, how do Westmeath get into the Sam Maguire next year?

At the moment there are three possible routes - provincial finalist route; league place; Tailteann Cup.

The Tailteann Cup route is already locked in so if Westmeath don't get one of the 8 provincial finalist places or finish in the top 8 in the league (after the 8 provincial finalists are taken out) they will replace the team that finishes 8th in the league (after the 8 provincial finalists are taken out) as one of the 4 4th seeds.

However depending on how the league and provincial championships go, they could improve their position by going into the Sam Maguire as either 1st or 2nd seeds if they get to the Leinster final.

Because they are in Division 3 next year there is no way they can be a higher seed than 4th via the league placings route.

full moon

Very disappointing for Cavan. You feel that red card turned the game and that cost us big time. Realistically it was badly mistimed and was a red card.

Westmeath were the better team though and played the better football. Cavan went back to our safety first slow build up. Very few players to kick into.

And our sheer lack of goal threat has been a problem for years. Depending on our full back to nick scrapy goals. Really our whole attacking unit didn't work and hasn't worked all year and it cost us.

trailer

Great interview by Luke Loughlin of Westmeath and great to see that being involved in a winning team is a reward for the way in which he has turned his life around. A brilliant story to go with a fantastic year for Westmeath.

seafoid

"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU