Alliance showing their true colours now

Started by T Fearon, January 30, 2013, 12:51:45 AM

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Hardy

Quote from: Farrandeelin on February 01, 2013, 10:25:59 PM
Quote from: Hardy on January 31, 2013, 02:27:00 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on January 31, 2013, 02:12:46 PM
Eating meat/ or not eating meat on Friday was a practice or tradition, an act of self sacrifice, in much the same way as abstaining at Lent still is, and not an obligation attracting a sinful default. 

They lied to me about that as well, then. It was one of the six "commandments of the church", as I remember it, which were a sort of local set of bye-laws appended to Moses's stone tablets. Breach had to be confessed in the dark box and it was a venial sin.

As for purgatory and limbo, I think they were just surreptitiously swept away when no one was looking, but without making any provision whatever for the millions of souls languishing there for, among other things ... see meat above.

And ne temere has been replaced by something a little less brazen and arrogant.

I always thought there were seven.

Ah no. Don't be mixing up Deadly Sins with Commandments.

Hardy

I checked with Fr. Google. Here they are:

The Six Commandments of the Church

    To hear Mass on Sundays and Holydays of Obligation.
    To fast and abstain on the days appointed.
    To confess at least once a year.
    To recieve the Holy Eucharist during Easter time.
    To contribute to the support of our Pastors.
    Not to marry persons who are not Catholics, or who are related to us within three degrees of kindred, nor privately without witnesses, nor to solemnize marriage at forbidden times.

seafoid

Quote from: Hardy on February 01, 2013, 10:40:03 PM
I checked with Fr. Google. Here they are:

The Six Commandments of the Church

    To hear Mass on Sundays and Holydays of Obligation.
    To fast and abstain on the days appointed.
    To confess at least once a year.
    To recieve the Holy Eucharist during Easter time.
    To contribute to the support of our Pastors.
    Not to marry persons who are not Catholics, or who are related to us within three degrees of kindred, nor privately without witnesses, nor to solemnize marriage at forbidden times.
Hardy

Do you reject Satan and all his  empty promises?

Eamonnca1

Quote from: armaghniac on February 01, 2013, 06:29:26 PM
Quotebut in a lot of areas it wouldn't be much different from the distance they're already traveling.

What about the other areas?

Build new schools.

Myles Na G.

Quote from: seafoid on February 01, 2013, 11:00:47 PM
Quote from: Hardy on February 01, 2013, 10:40:03 PM
I checked with Fr. Google. Here they are:

The Six Commandments of the Church

    To hear Mass on Sundays and Holydays of Obligation.
    To fast and abstain on the days appointed.
    To confess at least once a year.
    To recieve the Holy Eucharist during Easter time.
    To contribute to the support of our Pastors.
    Not to marry persons who are not Catholics, or who are related to us within three degrees of kindred, nor privately without witnesses, nor to solemnize marriage at forbidden times.
Hardy

Do you reject Satan and all his  empty promises?
Are you sure they're empty?

armaghniac

QuoteDo you reject Satan and all his  empty promises?

maybe they had that in Meath, around South Armagh I'm pretty sure it was "Do you reject Britain and all their empty promises", but then Britain and Satan are much the same.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

Eamonnca1

Quote from: armaghniac on February 01, 2013, 11:59:54 PM
...Britain and Satan are much the same.

What have you got against the Scots and Welsh?

Hardy

Quote from: seafoid on February 01, 2013, 11:00:47 PM
Quote from: Hardy on February 01, 2013, 10:40:03 PM
I checked with Fr. Google. Here they are:

The Six Commandments of the Church

    To hear Mass on Sundays and Holydays of Obligation.
    To fast and abstain on the days appointed.
    To confess at least once a year.
    To recieve the Holy Eucharist during Easter time.
    To contribute to the support of our Pastors.
    Not to marry persons who are not Catholics, or who are related to us within three degrees of kindred, nor privately without witnesses, nor to solemnize marriage at forbidden times.
Hardy

Do you reject Satan and all his  empty promises?

I do. Sure he's just another religious fanatic.

Eamonnca1

Quote from: seafoid on February 01, 2013, 11:00:47 PM
Do you reject Satan and all his  empty promises?

In all fairness that is a bit of a loaded question. The poor fella was just trying to take over the place, but when the throne was already occupied he ended up going to the underworld and ruled it instead. Sure somebody had to do it. Fair play to him for stepping up to the plate and taking on such a tricky job.

Maguire01

Quote from: Ulick on January 31, 2013, 10:52:27 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on January 31, 2013, 09:28:11 PM
u appear to be arguing for the status quo, unless i've missed something. And the status quo is segregated.

I want the choice to send my children to a school that accepts, respects and reflects my values and culture - that is very unlikely to be the Alliance version of "integrated" education, which is as I said all about homogeneous little Northern Irish Brits. I couldn't care less about the religious ethos of the school though my preference would be that it's completely secular.
Alliance have proposed the idea of a single secular sector, but Alliance wouldn't/couldn't dictate the values and culture of the system - the parents, pupils, teachers and community will shape the school. And whilst Alliance may be very 'Norn Iron', I don't believe they'd be suggesting schools without GAA or schools that didn't offer Irish. If you're preference is for secular education, then I can't see what you're opposed to.