Might as well get it started
Can't wait.
We started yet off on the road in the 2011 CF so would be nice if we ended ye're team next Sunday.
One part of me fears we had ONE BIG GAME in us and 9 months to hone in on it.
Hope we avoid a tanking anyway and that our young ladeens run the legs if the oul worn out Rhubarbs.
Really hope we win obviously but i just cant see it. We are so open its surreal , we have absolutely no defensive game plan , abandoned mcglouglin as a sweeper after spending all last year perfecting it. Hes a strange manager is our tellytubby
This should be a great game. Pick of the quarters.
I don't know why Ross fans even bother to get their hopes up. They can never beat Mayo.
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Quote from: SouthDublinBro on July 23, 2017, 02:54:03 PM
I don't know why Ross fans even bother to get their hopes up. They can never beat Mayo.
Our players can and will.
Listening to Gay Sherrins rant a few months ago and one of the things that got lost in the hullabaloo was him wondering how Mayo could score 1.19 against the Ros defense and Mayo having no forwards and also his insinuation that McStays sole reason for staying in the job was for monetary gain.But I guess that is in the past and expect a great battle and hopefully extra time yesterday will not have taken to much out of Mayo
I believe the last year that Ros won their match following a Connacht final win was 1980. Surely it is time to do it again.
The psychology of this match will be worth a few points. If Ros can go for the jugular they must have a chance.
Quote from: maigheo on July 23, 2017, 03:13:28 PM
Listening to Gay Sherrins rant a few months ago and one of the things that got lost in the hullabaloo was him wondering how Mayo could score 1.19 against the Ros defense and Mayo having no forwards and also his insinuation that McStays sole reason for staying in the job was for monetary gain.But I guess that is in the past and expect a great battle and hopefully extra time yesterday will not have taken to much out of Mayo
McStay has been involved in Roscommon football since the mid-90s. Insinuating he was only in it for the money was probably the stupidest thing Gay said, at least when he was on about the hatred between Mayo and aroscommon he was drawing on his own experience playing and using it as motivation to perform. McStay's reaction after the Connacht final showed how much it means to him, and the genuine class of the man. There's not many non-believers left in the county now.
Gay Sheerin is not in the good graces of many people in Roscommon right now, but I hear he is on good terms with donkeys.
Lets cut to the chase. Roscommon are the weakest of the 4 provincial winners while Mayo are the strongest of 4 teams to come through the back door and remain a top 4 team. After extra time yesterday the last thing Mayo needed was playing against another top 4 team one week later instead and no disrespect to Roscommon, Mayo have got the best possible draw.
Now where are Roscommon at? they produced a top performance against a Galway side you thought they had the Connacht title won after beating Mayo. Are they fully focused on this game after winning their first provincial title for 7 years. will McStay and McHale have a plan in place to topple their home county? it would be some turn up for the books if this Roscommon management who were turned down for the Mayo job twice are now the ones to bring the curtain down on this consistently competitive Mayo team.
Very interesting game.
We'll see Sunday what Ros are really made of.
Quote from: galwayman on July 23, 2017, 05:29:18 PM
Very interesting game.
We'll see Sunday what Ros are really made of.
We'll see what Galway are made of first..
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Quote from: galwayman on July 23, 2017, 05:29:18 PM
Very interesting game.
We'll see Sunday what Ros are really made of.
We'll see what Galway are made of first..
No we won't actually. We're not good enough to beat Kerry & we know we're not.
We're not strong enough defensively to cope against that Kerry side.
Personally I don't think Roscommon are good enough to beat Mayo.
But sure we'll find out on Sunday.
Next year we'll see how good Ros are. Back to back Connacht titles would say something.
Quote from: galwayman on July 23, 2017, 05:35:55 PM
Quote from: Syferus on July 23, 2017, 05:33:01 PM
Quote from: galwayman on July 23, 2017, 05:29:18 PM
Very interesting game.
We'll see Sunday what Ros are really made of.
We'll see what Galway are made of first..
No we won't actually. We're not good enough to beat Kerry & we know we're not.
We're not strong enough defensively to cope against that Kerry side.
Personally I don't think Roscommon are good enough to beat Mayo.
But sure we'll find out on Sunday.
You can think what you want. It didn't bother Roscommon before the Connacht final and it definitely won't now.
All the talk was of Galway winning in Croker this year, making an AISF. Well, now's your shot. Excuses before the fact have always been an ugly thing. I can only imagine what would have happened in the Connacht final if our team had bought into the accepted logic.
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Quote from: galwayman on July 23, 2017, 05:29:18 PM
Very interesting game.
We'll see Sunday what Ros are really made of.
We'll see what Galway are made of first..
No we won't actually. We're not good enough to beat Kerry & we know we're not.
We're not strong enough defensively to cope against that Kerry side.
Personally I don't think Roscommon are good enough to beat Mayo.
But sure we'll find out on Sunday.
You can think what you want. It didn't bother Roscommon before the Connacht final and it definitely won't now.
All the talk was of Galway winning in Croker this year, making an AISF. Well, now's your shot. Excuses before the fact have always been an ugly thing. I can only imagine what would have happened in the Connacht final if our team had bought into the accepted logic.
Excuses? Are you for real? Saying that we're not good enough to beat Kerry is an honest opinion not an excuse!
Are you simple?
You're changing the topic of this thread as usual when it suits yourself to avoid the subject.
It has its own thread ffs.
Anyone else have an opinion on the game that this thread is suppose to be about?
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Quote from: galwayman on July 23, 2017, 05:29:18 PM
Very interesting game.
We'll see Sunday what Ros are really made of.
We'll see what Galway are made of first..
No we won't actually. We're not good enough to beat Kerry & we know we're not.
We're not strong enough defensively to cope against that Kerry side.
Personally I don't think Roscommon are good enough to beat Mayo.
But sure we'll find out on Sunday.
You can think what you want. It didn't bother Roscommon before the Connacht final and it definitely won't now.
All the talk was of Galway winning in Croker this year, making an AISF. Well, now's your shot. Excuses before the fact have always been an ugly thing. I can only imagine what would have happened in the Connacht final if our team had bought into the accepted logic.
Excuses? Are you for real? Saying that we're not good enough to beat Kerry is an honest opinion not an excuse!
Are you simple?
You're changing the topic of this thread as usual when it suits yourself to avoid the subject.
It has its own thread ffs.
Anyone else have an opinion on the game that this thread is suppose to be about?
Nice.
Funny enough as I commiserated with a few Galway supporters in the Galway Bay after the Connacht final, they said sure the last time this happened we won the All-Ireland. It's a bit similar in that we are playing Connacht opposition again and make no mistake, if we lose to Mayo on Sunday, the Connacht final win, a great as it was, will mean nothing. It will be considered a once off ambush, and we'll be relegated to third best team in Connacht irrespective of what happens in the Galway/Kerry game. And righty so. Galway's dismantling of Donegal has got the media swanning over them again, and they were brilliant in Sligo yesterday. In the lead up to the inaugural 1/4 final in 2001, there was sense of doom in Roscommon that we would not beat them the second time. And so it came to be. The scenic route had sharpened Galway, fixed their issues from Tuam, while Ros were flat and game was over at half time. Despite how yesterday's game ended, it was evident that Mayo's forward play was much sharper by a long shot yesterday than the games against Galway and Derry. The players they need to play well for them are playing very well - eg the O'Connors, AOS, Keegan, etc.. It will be an intriguing game, very much a team of young guns versus the hardened dogs of war. I believe we have players unlike 2001 who will not go into this game with the psychological burdens of believing they will always lose to Mayo, as it's a team largely made up of the U21 teams used to winning. But it will take the game of their lives. They are young, and still without the physical condition of the current Mayo team, or the big game experience in Croke Park. Bring it on.
Quote from: weareros on July 23, 2017, 07:28:05 PM
Funny enough as I commiserated with a few Galway supporters in the Galway Bay after the Connacht final, they said sure the last time this happened we won the All-Ireland. It's a bit similar in that we are playing Connacht opposition again and make no mistake, if we lose to Mayo on Sunday, the Connacht final win, a great as it was, will mean nothing. It will be considered a once off ambush, and we'll be relegated to third best team in Connacht irrespective of what happens in the Galway/Kerry game. And righty so. Galway's dismantling of Donegal has got the media swanning over them again, and they were brilliant in Sligo yesterday. In the lead up to the inaugural 1/4 final in 2001, there was sense of doom in Roscommon that we would not beat them the second time. And so it came to be. The scenic route had sharpened Galway, fixed their issues from Tuam, while Ros were flat and game was over at half time. Despite how yesterday's game ended, it was evident that Mayo's forward play was much sharper by a long shot yesterday than the games against Galway and Derry. The players they need to play well for them are playing very well - eg the O'Connors, AOS, Keegan, etc.. It will be an intriguing game, very much a team of young guns versus the hardened dogs of war. I believe we have players unlike 2001 who will not go into this game with the psychological burdens of believing they will always lose to Mayo, as it's a team largely made up of the U21 teams used to winning. But it will take the game of their lives. They are young, and still without the physical condition of the current Mayo team, or the big game experience in Croke Park. Bring it on.
Donegal are the worst team in D1 next year, indeed I'd safely say we're objectively better than them. I think even Cork might have worked them they've been playing that bad this year.
Roscommon team named for next Sunday
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Quote from: seafoid on July 23, 2017, 03:16:28 PM
I believe the last year that Ros won their match following a Connacht final win was 1980. Surely it is time to do it again.
The psychology of this match will be worth a few points. If Ros can go for the jugular they must have a chance.
Jaysus, insightful stuff
Quote from: Rossfan on July 23, 2017, 02:25:28 PM
Can't wait.
We started yet off on the road in the 2011 CF so would be nice if we ended ye're team next Sunday.
One part of me fears we had ONE BIG GAME in us and 9 months to hone in on it.
Hope we avoid a tanking anyway and that our young ladeens run the legs if the oul worn out Rhubarbs.
That's what I thought could come against roscommon but the fact that it's mayo will counteract that imo
Quote from: seafoid on July 23, 2017, 03:16:28 PM
I believe the last year that Ros won their match following a Connacht final win was 1980. Surely it is time to do it again.
The psychology of this match will be worth a few points. If Ros can go for the jugular they must have a chance.
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Depends on whose jugular the are going for, doesn't it?
Going by their track record, it will definitely be their managers as they have a record second to none when it comes to given those gentlemen the bum's rush. McStay should be afraid, very afraid, if they implode as usual.
I mean Carr and Maughan were both army men and so was McStay and there's no reason to believe the sheep shaggers will treat him and different to the other two. :D
Bejases Lar ye fairly shafted a few oul managers ye're selves obverse the years.
Remember Moran/Morrison and Holmes/Connelly....
Quote from: Lar Naparka on July 23, 2017, 09:05:32 PM
Quote from: seafoid on July 23, 2017, 03:16:28 PM
I believe the last year that Ros won their match following a Connacht final win was 1980. Surely it is time to do it again.
The psychology of this match will be worth a few points. If Ros can go for the jugular they must have a chance.
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Depends on whose jugular the are going for, doesn't it?
Going by their track record, it will definitely be their managers as they have a record second to none when it comes to given those gentlemen the bum's rush. McStay should be afraid, very afraid, if they implode as usual.
I mean Carr and Maughan were both army men and so was McStay and there's no reason to believe the sheep shaggers will treat him and different to the other two. :D
Carr got 3 years and Maughan 2. Half a decade of the pair of them was plenty. McStay will get a third year. Very spiteful post, Lar. I can see the pressure is getting to ye already.
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Quote from: Rossfan on July 23, 2017, 02:25:28 PM
Can't wait.
We started yet off on the road in the 2011 CF so would be nice if we ended ye're team next Sunday.
One part of me fears we had ONE BIG GAME in us and 9 months to hone in on it.
Hope we avoid a tanking anyway and that our young ladeens run the legs if the oul worn out Rhubarbs.
That's what I thought could come against roscommon but the fact that it's mayo will counteract that imo
We were planning that ''ONE BIG GAME'' around playing Mayo or Galway so it's hardly as if we haven't Mayo well scouted this year. The nine months rubbish might have made sense if it was Cork or Donegal (if you're a bit slow and think a D1 team isn't going to readjust its focus past early July) but not when it's the other team the whole process was planned around playing.
Quote from: Lar Naparka on July 23, 2017, 09:05:32 PM
Quote from: seafoid on July 23, 2017, 03:16:28 PM
I believe the last year that Ros won their match following a Connacht final win was 1980. Surely it is time to do it again.
The psychology of this match will be worth a few points. If Ros can go for the jugular they must have a chance.
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Depends on whose jugular the are going for, doesn't it?
Going by their track record, it will definitely be their managers as they have a record second to none when it comes to given those gentlemen the bum's rush. McStay should be afraid, very afraid, if they implode as usual.
I mean Carr and Maughan were both army men and so was McStay and there's no reason to believe the sheep shaggers will treat him and different to the other two. :D
there's the Mayo class coming through
Kevin is well known and generally liked in Roscommon
Carr are Maughan were assholes though. Maughan ruined quite a few decent Roscommon players
Awful sledging and skulduggery going on here.
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on July 23, 2017, 10:24:20 PM
Awful sledging and skulduggery going on here.
Come on in, you should feel right at home!
I hope each set of supporters have their own trains next Sunday....could get very messy on the return journey with plenty of folks with drink on board
Quote from: whitey on July 24, 2017, 01:09:21 AM
I hope each set of supporters have their own trains next Sunday....could get very messy on the return journey with plenty of folks with drink on board
Do you think Ballagh is a warzone when Roscommon and Mayo play or something? We're not the fooking Old Firm ffs.
Well that's because ye all know each other , went to school together and are neighbors you numbskull
If some Rossie says the wrong thing to a thick Belmullet man full of drink on the return journey and it'll be lightsout
Quote from: whitey on July 24, 2017, 01:26:18 AM
Well that's because ye all know each other , went to school together and are neighbors you numbskull
If some Rossie says the wrong thing to a thick Belmullet man full of drink on the return journey and it'll be lightsout
Do you think this is the first time Roscommon and Mayo supporters have been intoxicated around each other? There's very rarely any hassle between country folk. Separate trains me arse.
Quote from: whitey on July 24, 2017, 01:09:21 AM
I hope each set of supporters have their own trains next Sunday....could get very messy on the return journey with plenty of folks with drink on board
Syf will travel alone on a separate train
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Quote from: whitey on July 24, 2017, 01:26:18 AM
Well that's because ye all know each other , went to school together and are neighbors you numbskull
If some Rossie says the wrong thing to a thick Belmullet man full of drink on the return journey and it'll be lightsout
Do you think this is the first time Roscommon and Mayo supporters have been intoxicated around each other? There's very rarely any hassle between country folk. Separate trains me arse.
No....but it will most likely the first time they've ever ridden a train together to a match.
FFS the last time I went to a match on the train the Mayo supporters were battering the $hite out of each other
Quote from: whitey on July 24, 2017, 02:07:08 AM
Quote from: Syferus on July 24, 2017, 01:38:12 AM
Quote from: whitey on July 24, 2017, 01:26:18 AM
Well that's because ye all know each other , went to school together and are neighbors you numbskull
If some Rossie says the wrong thing to a thick Belmullet man full of drink on the return journey and it'll be lightsout
Do you think this is the first time Roscommon and Mayo supporters have been intoxicated around each other? There's very rarely any hassle between country folk. Separate trains me arse.
No....but it will most likely the first time they've ever ridden a train together to a match.
FFS the last time I went to a match on the train the Mayo supporters were battering the $hite out of each other
2006, thousands of Rossies headed to Croker because the minors were in the final. Do you recall any deaths on the train ride that day?
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Quote from: Syferus on July 24, 2017, 01:38:12 AM
Quote from: whitey on July 24, 2017, 01:26:18 AM
Well that's because ye all know each other , went to school together and are neighbors you numbskull
If some Rossie says the wrong thing to a thick Belmullet man full of drink on the return journey and it'll be lightsout
Do you think this is the first time Roscommon and Mayo supporters have been intoxicated around each other? There's very rarely any hassle between country folk. Separate trains me arse.
No....but it will most likely the first time they've ever ridden a train together to a match.
FFS the last time I went to a match on the train the Mayo supporters were battering the $hite out of each other
2006, thousands of Rossies headed to Croker because the minors were in the final. Do you recall any deaths on the train ride that day?
the Mayo fans got the early train home that day
Rossies came to croker along with me supporting mayo all through the 90s when we were growing up. Of course theres rivalry and can be bould sometimes but since the f**king internet things seem to be exaggerated a lot. The dublin /mayo thing is cuntish cause of social media mostly.
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my favorite match this year so far . when mayo put the foot on the throat.
how come Drake get such an easy ride?
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my favorite match this year so far . when mayo put the foot on the throat.
how come Drake get such an easy ride?
He's useless.
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my favorite match this year so far . when mayo put the foot on the throat.
how come Drake get such an easy ride?
so its jealousy of how good Andy is rather than any border dispute that get Rossies so riled up
Noted
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my favorite match this year so far . when mayo put the foot on the throat.
how come Drake get such an easy ride?
so its jealousy of how good Andy is rather than any border dispute that get Rossies so riled up
Noted
Andy has talent. Drake coming on is always a sign of bad things for Mayo.
Do we know which of the two quarter finals are on Sky?
It's the sight of a Roscommon man kissing another County's crest that is annoying.
The Dublin and Tyrone games are on Sky I think.
Quote from: Rossfan on July 24, 2017, 10:51:49 AM
It's the sight of a Roscommon man kissing another County's crest that is annoying.
The Dublin and Tyrone games are on Sky I think.
just listened t Kevin Mcstay on Of the ball.
hes a very impressive man a great perspective on things
still a future mayo manager hopefully
Quote from: rosnarun on July 24, 2017, 12:05:30 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 24, 2017, 10:51:49 AM
It's the sight of a Roscommon man kissing another County's crest that is annoying.
The Dublin and Tyrone games are on Sky I think.
just listened t Kevin Mcstay on Of the ball.
hes a very impressive man a great perspective on things
still a future mayo manager hopefully
You might be looking for a new manager after Sunday alright. You set flames to the bridge with McStay and McHale, though.
Quote from: Syferus on July 24, 2017, 12:08:59 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on July 24, 2017, 12:05:30 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 24, 2017, 10:51:49 AM
It's the sight of a Roscommon man kissing another County's crest that is annoying.
The Dublin and Tyrone games are on Sky I think.
just listened t Kevin Mcstay on Of the ball.
hes a very impressive man a great perspective on things
still a future mayo manager hopefully
You might be looking for a new manager after Sunday alright. You set flames to the bridge with McStay and McHale, though.
any one else hear 'whoosh'
Quote from: Esmarelda on July 24, 2017, 10:50:38 AM
Do we know which of the two quarter finals are on Sky?
Both quarter finals on Sunday are on RTE.
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Quote from: Syferus on July 24, 2017, 12:08:59 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on July 24, 2017, 12:05:30 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 24, 2017, 10:51:49 AM
It's the sight of a Roscommon man kissing another County's crest that is annoying.
The Dublin and Tyrone games are on Sky I think.
just listened t Kevin Mcstay on Of the ball.
hes a very impressive man a great perspective on things
still a future mayo manager hopefully
You might be looking for a new manager after Sunday alright. You set flames to the bridge with McStay and McHale, though.
any one else hear 'whoosh'
Is that the sound of another tactical change by Rochford going over everyone's heads?
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Surprised Kerry-Galway is on first.
Mayo & Roscommon will have the bigger number of supporters than Kerry V Galway.
Second half of Kerry V galway could be played in a 3/4's empty croke park if it was on second.
Quote from: westbound on July 24, 2017, 12:46:59 PM
Mayo & Roscommon will have the bigger number of supporters than Kerry V Galway.
Second half of Kerry V galway could be played in a 3/4's empty croke park if it was on second.
Exactly.
Quote from: rosnarun on July 24, 2017, 12:05:30 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 24, 2017, 10:51:49 AM
It's the sight of a Roscommon man kissing another County's crest that is annoying.
The Dublin and Tyrone games are on Sky I think.
just listened t Kevin Mcstay on Of the ball.
hes a very impressive man a great perspective on things
still a future mayo manager hopefully
Yeah I always liked McStay. Thought he was very good and honest on the Sunday Game - without looking to be sensationalist.
Still gives very good interviews as a manager and is very interesting to listen to.
Decided to take the Boyle train because of the serious fears of injury on the Westport train.
That, and it's handier for after the match.
Quote from: rosnarun on July 24, 2017, 12:05:30 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 24, 2017, 10:51:49 AM
It's the sight of a Roscommon man kissing another County's crest that is annoying.
The Dublin and Tyrone games are on Sky I think.
just listened t Kevin Mcstay on Of the ball.
hes a very impressive man a great perspective on things
still a future mayo manager hopefully
Roscommon not ready yet for this type of game especially physically is probably a bit too honest by McStay.
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Quote from: Esmarelda on July 24, 2017, 10:50:38 AM
Do we know which of the two quarter finals are on Sky?
Both quarter finals on Sunday are on RTE.
I meant which two of the four.
Clarified now in any case.
Ros are 3/1
I would love to see them get to the semi but most of all I would love to see them build on this and get back to the top 8 for 3 or 4 years. To really build something . Because it has been nearly 30 years since they last had back to back Connachts and nearly 40 years since they got to an all Ireland final.
Tickets got, persistence and patience seems to work best with tickets.ie because they offer some awful shite seats at first.
Quote from: Syferus on July 24, 2017, 03:42:40 PM
Tickets got, persistence and patience seems to work best with tickets.ie because they offer some awful shite seats at first.
What section you get in the end? Tempted to stop trying and go to the CB
What sort of crowd would be expected at this? Around 55-60k?
Galway 5k
Kerry 10k
Ross 15k
Mayo 20k
Neutral 5k
Quote from: macdanger2 on July 24, 2017, 04:07:08 PM
What sort of crowd would be expected at this? Around 55-60k?
Galway 5k
Kerry 10k
Ross 15k
Mayo 20k
Neutral 5k
More Kerry ones than Galway, really?
Quote from: macdanger2 on July 24, 2017, 04:07:08 PM
What sort of crowd would be expected at this? Around 55-60k?
Galway 5k
Kerry 10k
Ross 15k
Mayo 20k
Neutral 5k
They'll be more than 5K from Galway there but with the races starting the next day and the fact that the casual Galway GAA fan in Dublin might save their money for the hurling semi-final the following weekend will definitely affect the numbers.
Hard to know what sort of crowd we'll bring. Won't be huge.
Doubt there will be 10k from Kerry though.
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Quote from: Syferus on July 24, 2017, 03:42:40 PM
Tickets got, persistence and patience seems to work best with tickets.ie because they offer some awful shite seats at first.
What section you get in the end? Tempted to stop trying and go to the CB
327 in the Hogan, but I was ordering for a large group and decided I wanted a better view than the concessions that could be got in other stands. Tickets.ie seem to throw up different seats as they are added or released so it'd be worth keeping an eye on it but the CB can hardly have any tickets worse than the corner seats I was being offered at first.
SuperValu and Centra are just agents for tickets.ie and so are drawing for the same pool of tickets. Ticketmaster have a different allocation of you can hold your nose at their service fee. They had temporarily sold out the last time checked.
Cheers. I despise Ticketmaster but there's a lot to be said for their interactive seat map where you choose your seats. Waiting 20 mins to get into tickets.ie to be offered 336 twice isn't fun. Top deck view is a lot better if they open it
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Quote from: Syferus on July 24, 2017, 03:42:40 PM
Tickets got, persistence and patience seems to work best with tickets.ie because they offer some awful shite seats at first.
What section you get in the end? Tempted to stop trying and go to the CB
327 in the Hogan, but I was ordering for a large group and decided I wanted a better view than the concessions that could be got in other stands. Tickets.ie seem to throw up different seats as they are added or released so it'd be worth keeping an eye on it but the CAB can hardly have any tickets worse than the corner seats I was being offered at first.
SuperValu and Centra are just agents for tickets.ie and so are drawing for the same pool of tickets. Ticketmaster have a different allocation of you can hold your nose at their service fee. They had temporarily sold out the last time checked.
327 wouldn't be too far off the corner, maybe around the 14? Though suppose its a better view than very corner were it can be difficult to see the posts properly.
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Tickets got, persistence and patience seems to work best with tickets.ie because they offer some awful shite seats at first.
What section you get in the end? Tempted to stop trying and go to the CB
327 in the Hogan, but I was ordering for a large group and decided I wanted a better view than the concessions that could be got in other stands. Tickets.ie seem to throw up different seats as they are added or released so it'd be worth keeping an eye on it but the CAB can hardly have any tickets worse than the corner seats I was being offered at first.
SuperValu and Centra are just agents for tickets.ie and so are drawing for the same pool of tickets. Ticketmaster have a different allocation of you can hold your nose at their service fee. They had temporarily sold out the last time checked.
327 wouldn't be too far off the corner, maybe around the 14? Though suppose its a better view than very corner were it can be difficult to see the posts properly.
It's about the 14 ya. Fourth section from the Davin End. Compared to 301 at row UU pinned against the wall and under the overhang or 336 it's a godsend, though.
It's laughable how far behind the Canal goal the GAA considers it still the Cusack Stand, 315 my arse..
Mayo will not bring 20 k to a qf, nearer 13-15k.
Quote from: larryin89 on July 24, 2017, 05:12:13 PM
Mayo will not bring 20 k to a qf, nearer 13-15k.
They seemed to bring about 12k last Saturday for a qualifier game they were expected to win. You'd imagine there'll be a few more for a quarter final against a big local rival. Would Dublin not be handier than Limerick for lot of Mayo fans with lot of ones living there? Can't see Kerry bringing 10k though.
I'd be expecting about 50K in Croker, mostly Roscommon and Mayo fans, plus a good few Galway.
tickets available on tickets.ie are terrible
Quote from: larryin89 on July 24, 2017, 05:12:13 PM
Mayo will not bring 20 k to a qf, nearer 13-15k.
How many did Mayo bring to the QF in 2011? smallest ever Mayo crowd i seen in Croke Park.
Quote from: larryin89 on July 24, 2017, 05:12:13 PM
Mayo will not bring 20 k to a qf, nearer 13-15k.
There'll be 40K Rossies to see their hero ;D
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFg7J_OXcAAHv3-.jpg)
Quote from: mayo.mick on July 24, 2017, 05:54:28 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on July 24, 2017, 05:12:13 PM
Mayo will not bring 20 k to a qf, nearer 13-15k.
There'll be 40K Rossies to see their hero ;D
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFg7J_OXcAAHv3-.jpg)
Two lads in that picture from Ballagh families. One is able to represent native county due to living in next parish.
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Quote from: mayo.mick on July 24, 2017, 05:54:28 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on July 24, 2017, 05:12:13 PM
Mayo will not bring 20 k to a qf, nearer 13-15k.
There'll be 40K Rossies to see their hero ;D
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFg7J_OXcAAHv3-.jpg)
Two lads in that picture from Ballagh families. One is able to represent native county due to living in next parish.
It might sound like cutting hairs to outsiders but I wouldn't go round calling the Lavins of Corracoggil Ballagh men.. we're all Ros at heart anyways, none more so than Andy's own father.
Mayo's 4th game of the month, going to extra time in 2 of them isn't ideal preparation for a team with a lot of mileage.
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Quote from: mayo.mick on July 24, 2017, 05:54:28 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on July 24, 2017, 05:12:13 PM
Mayo will not bring 20 k to a qf, nearer 13-15k.
There'll be 40K Rossies to see their hero ;D
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFg7J_OXcAAHv3-.jpg)
Two lads in that picture from Ballagh families. One is able to represent native county due to living in next parish.
It might sound like cutting hairs to outsiders but I wouldn't go round calling the Lavins of Corracoggil Ballagh men.. we're all Ros at heart anyways, none more so than Andy's own father.
So when Cake was organizing the protests last year over the plans to redraw the county boundary around Athlone, am I correct in assuming you though he was flat out of order?
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/man-who-saved-for-roscommon-wants-to-save-roscommon-1.2544315
"This is our land, this is our people, this is our culture."-Cake
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Quote from: mayo.mick on July 24, 2017, 05:54:28 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on July 24, 2017, 05:12:13 PM
Mayo will not bring 20 k to a qf, nearer 13-15k.
There'll be 40K Rossies to see their hero ;D
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFg7J_OXcAAHv3-.jpg)
Two lads in that picture from Ballagh families. One is able to represent native county due to living in next parish.
It might sound like cutting hairs to outsiders but I wouldn't go round calling the Lavins of Corracoggil Ballagh men.. we're all Ros at heart anyways, none more so than Andy's own father.
I meant his Ma. From the Square.
Cake was trying to influence the future.
Ballagh GAA Club wants the world to stop in 1898.
What county are you from Whitey? is it Ros or Mayo? or are you hiding
Rhubarb.
Quote from: giveballaghback on July 24, 2017, 08:08:47 PM
What county are you from Whitey? is it Ros or Mayo? or are you hiding
Mayo through and through
Ballagh is Ross when it seuits ye, but when the shoe is on the other foot Cake and his rabble are out with burning pitchforks
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Quote from: mayo.mick on July 24, 2017, 05:54:28 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on July 24, 2017, 05:12:13 PM
Mayo will not bring 20 k to a qf, nearer 13-15k.
There'll be 40K Rossies to see their hero ;D
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFg7J_OXcAAHv3-.jpg)
Two lads in that picture from Ballagh families. One is able to represent native county due to living in next parish.
It might sound like cutting hairs to outsiders but I wouldn't go round calling the Lavins of Corracoggil Ballagh men.. we're all Ros at heart anyways, none more so than Andy's own father.
So when Cake was organizing the protests last year over the plans to redraw the county boundary around Athlone, am I correct in assuming you though he was flat out of order?
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/man-who-saved-for-roscommon-wants-to-save-roscommon-1.2544315
"This is our land, this is our people, this is our culture."-Cake
Shhhh, the Rossies don't like to talking about that one
When was Monksland in Westmeath for 120 years? Did I miss that our are you comparing two very different situations facetiously?
Ballagh is in Ros whether it suits us or not.
Back to the match - Mayowestros roaring favourites to beat the RestofRos.
So were Galway.
However I'd fear we'll be squashed by their physical strength and 6 years of S&C.
However our younger fresher legs might make up for that.
And of course the Rhus may be working on their tactics for Kerry....
All this needs is one controversial decision from the ref and we're looking at a 100 pager here
Quote from: macdanger2 on July 24, 2017, 08:34:28 PM
All this needs is one controversial decision from the ref and we're looking at a 100 pager here
Given it's Joe Mac in charge it's unlikely to be O'Shea diving and conning him out of a penalty, anyways.
Quote from: Syferus on July 24, 2017, 08:36:03 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on July 24, 2017, 08:34:28 PM
All this needs is one controversial decision from the ref and we're looking at a 100 pager here
Given it's Joe Mac in charge it's unlikely to be O'Shea diving and conning him out of a penalty, anyways.
Right off the back of his excellent performance in the Ulster final ::)
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Quote from: macdanger2 on July 24, 2017, 08:34:28 PM
All this needs is one controversial decision from the ref and we're looking at a 100 pager here
Given it's Joe Mac in charge it's unlikely to be O'Shea diving and conning him out of a penalty, anyways.
Carlsberg don't do refereeing performances but if they did........
I never knew of this whole Ballaghaderreen situation until this evening and it has blown my mind. And I thought ballinderry was a bad case. At least the most of it is in Derry! What's the breakdown of rossies/mayo in the town?
Quote from: RedHand88 on July 24, 2017, 09:12:09 PM
I never knew of this whole Ballaghaderreen situation until this evening and it has blown my mind. And I thought ballinderry was a bad case. At least the most of it is in Derry! What's the breakdown of rossies/mayo in the town?
100% Roscommon.
Depends on who you ask and who is winning at the time. Most pubs and businesses have to fly both flags.
The Rossies are set up perfect to stretch the game and run the legs off our lads in the middle third with Smith, O'Rourke Devaney & Stack and then you have the Murtaghs & Connolly inside to take the direct route to goal against our shaky fullback line.
Andy and Cillian can do damage to the Rossies fullback line and our best chance is to try an drag these marauding young Rossies into a physical battle plus our experience in Croker should count for something on the day!!
I dunno it is 50/ 50 for me and I just think the legs will be heavy and the Rossies have the talent to push this advantage but how much is the question?
Where are the legs at after last Sat and how will the bench go will be critical for Mayo and can the forwards remain as efficient the next day!!
Interesting game ahead on Sunday and I don't think the bookies odds reflect how close these teams actually are in reality!!!
Quote from: Crete Boom on July 24, 2017, 09:49:03 PM
The Rossies are set up perfect to stretch the game and run the legs off our lads in the middle third with Smith, O'Rourke Devaney & Stack and then you have the Murtaghs & Connolly inside to take the direct route to goal against our shaky fullback line.
Andy and Cillian can do damage to the Rossies fullback line and our best chance is to try an drag these marauding young Rossies into a physical battle plus our experience in Croker should count for something on the day!!
I dunno it is 50/ 50 for me and I just think the legs will be heavy and the Rossies have the talent to push this advantage but how much is the question?
Where are the legs at after last Sat and how will the bench go will be critical for Mayo and can the forwards remain as efficient the next day!!
Interesting game ahead on Sunday and I don't think the bookies odds reflect how close these teams actually are in reality!!!
No BS, I really think this could be an absolutely fascinating match. There's so many different little battles and matchups that could decide it, on the field and off it.
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Quote from: Crete Boom on July 24, 2017, 09:49:03 PM
The Rossies are set up perfect to stretch the game and run the legs off our lads in the middle third with Smith, O'Rourke Devaney & Stack and then you have the Murtaghs & Connolly inside to take the direct route to goal against our shaky fullback line.
Andy and Cillian can do damage to the Rossies fullback line and our best chance is to try an drag these marauding young Rossies into a physical battle plus our experience in Croker should count for something on the day!!
I dunno it is 50/ 50 for me and I just think the legs will be heavy and the Rossies have the talent to push this advantage but how much is the question?
Where are the legs at after last Sat and how will the bench go will be critical for Mayo and can the forwards remain as efficient the next day!!
Interesting game ahead on Sunday and I don't think the bookies odds reflect how close these teams actually are in reality!!!
No BS, I really think this could be an absolutely fascinating match. There's so many different little battles and matchups that could decide it, on the field and off it.
Snap thinking exactly the same thing , I'll say it again I'm not sure the bookies and neutrals realise how close the teams are because of the differing strengths and styles. It is going to be a right battle to the end!!
Joe 'soft free' McQuillan?
This should be interesting
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Quote from: RedHand88 on July 24, 2017, 09:12:09 PM
I never knew of this whole Ballaghaderreen situation until this evening and it has blown my mind. And I thought ballinderry was a bad case. At least the most of it is in Derry! What's the breakdown of rossies/mayo in the town?
100% Roscommon.
Depends on who you ask and who is winning at the time. Most pubs and businesses have to fly both flags.
Hahahaha...haha...ha.
Back in the real world........the breakdown of Ballaghs, not including frenchparks, tobohines, lisacul, loughlynn blow-ins etc, its about 65/70 Mayo vs 35/30 Israelis/rossies. The GAA club is even more pronounced in favour of Mayo but that's understandable.
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Quote from: mayo.mick on July 24, 2017, 05:54:28 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on July 24, 2017, 05:12:13 PM
Mayo will not bring 20 k to a qf, nearer 13-15k.
There'll be 40K Rossies to see their hero ;D
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFg7J_OXcAAHv3-.jpg)
Two lads in that picture from Ballagh families. One is able to represent native county due to living in next parish.
i.e. he's not Ballagh, the clue is in the different parish bit.....that you just said
To be fair the whole Ballagh thing is a snooze fest at this stage especially from those outside the area. We ain't gonna agree on it anytime soon so may as well comment on the football and support our respective counties.
I personally think if we play anything close to how we can and the lads don't take their eye off the ball like last Saturday then we'll win and possibly win quite comfortably. Like some have already mentioned I'd genuinely be concerned by the effects of two extra time games in 4 weeks. I don't think it will be enough for us to lose but some S&C experts on here may have a better view of what they think it could have taken out of the Mayo lads.
Key players have hit form again and Rochford won't casually call players ashore on Sunday to rest them. Sorting out FB is the biggest issue but I still think Caff will start.
Assuming they'll rest and recover well, I see us winning, not sure by how much since we are so unpredictable but scraping through again would do just fine.
"We" "us"
RN cars, Roscommon Library, RCoCo streets, footpaths, sewers etc etc
Ah well.....
Roscommon are 3/1 for anyone that's interested.
Quote from: Rossfan on July 25, 2017, 07:56:54 AM
"We" "us"
RN cars, Roscommon Library, RCoCo streets, footpaths, sewers etc etc
Ah well.....
What colours will it be in this weekend? Rhubarb? Rossie? Or both?
Saw this on Twitter earlier:
Mayo bidding for 7th successive All-Ireland semi. 11 players that played in first one in 2011 could feature v Ros. Leaned heavily on them.
That's a stat that really sums up the miles on the Mayo clock. The Rossie ladeens to run the legs of the aul lads to set up a semi with Kerry. Persimmon by 3 for me.
Quote from: omagh_gael on July 25, 2017, 09:56:03 AM
Saw this on Twitter earlier:
Mayo bidding for 7th successive All-Ireland semi. 11 players that played in first one in 2011 could feature v Ros. Leaned heavily on them.
That's a stat that really sums up the miles on the Mayo clock. The Rossie ladeens to run the legs of the aul lads to set up a semi with Kerry. Persimmon by 3 for me.
why is it seen as a liability that mayo have truly class players who have stood the test of time.
i remember a time when Tyrone has to substitute canavan in and out cause they had no one worthwhile on the bench .
that worked out ok for them
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Quote from: omagh_gael on July 25, 2017, 09:56:03 AM
Saw this on Twitter earlier:
Mayo bidding for 7th successive All-Ireland semi. 11 players that played in first one in 2011 could feature v Ros. Leaned heavily on them.
That's a stat that really sums up the miles on the Mayo clock. The Rossie ladeens to run the legs of the aul lads to set up a semi with Kerry. Persimmon by 3 for me.
why is it seen as a liability that mayo have truly class players who have stood the test of time.
i remember a time when Tyrone has to substitute canavan in and out cause they had no one worthwhile on the bench .
that worked out ok for them
We in Tyrone know all about the fading of a special team. Seven years after our first win in 03 and our team was fading badly. Defeats against Cork and Dublin in 09 and 10 were the beginning of the end for that team. They limped on in hope but never got back to the summit.
If I was from Ros I'd be delighted to have drawn Mayo. If they've any ambitions to make the next step then the sight of the green and red should have them massively zoned in.
I hear tell of massive queues for tickets at Co Board offices in Ros this morning.
Looks like Parsons is out, going to be a major loss, with Vaughan probably to come in, he's not great cover for that area.
Why are Roscommon 3/1 to win this game? Mayo have looked a jaded side in the qualifiers needing extra time to get past Cork and Derry. Roscommon are being heavily underestimated here I think as Mayo look to be largely a team in decline.
Quote from: yellowcard on July 25, 2017, 12:57:25 PM
Why are Roscommon 3/1 to win this game? Mayo have looked a jaded side in the qualifiers needing extra time to get past Cork and Derry. Roscommon are being heavily underestimated here I think as Mayo look to be largely a team in decline.
Because they beat Leitrim and a Galway team who just never got going. Also just after a terrible league campaign.
Quote from: RedHand88 on July 25, 2017, 12:59:47 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on July 25, 2017, 12:57:25 PM
Why are Roscommon 3/1 to win this game? Mayo have looked a jaded side in the qualifiers needing extra time to get past Cork and Derry. Roscommon are being heavily underestimated here I think as Mayo look to be largely a team in decline.
Because they beat Leitrim and a Galway team who just never got going. Also just after a terrible league campaign.
We do suck.
3/1 because Bookmakers think we haven't a hope.
Because we only shocked Galway who in their arrogance were thinking of their semi final v Kerry.
Because most media etc don't know the names of most of our players
Because we're seen as part of Ireland's Gaza Strip
And lots of other insulting stuff..
Quote from: yellowcard on July 25, 2017, 12:57:25 PM
Why are Roscommon 3/1 to win this game? Mayo have looked a jaded side in the qualifiers needing extra time to get past Cork and Derry. Roscommon are being heavily underestimated here I think as Mayo look to be largely a team in decline.
Roscommon have played 9 games this year and won 3 of them.
In the league they lost to Dublin, Kerry, Donegal, Monaghan, Mayo, Tyrone.
The one team they beat was Cavan, who were also relegated.
They beat Leitrim by 17 points, which sounds impressive but Carlow beat them by 7 points in the qualifier so it's clear that Leitrim were going no-where this year.
Leitrim playing in Division 4 won 4 games and lost 3 games and their one championship win was narrowly getting by London.
The beat an abject Galway in the Connacht final - watch the game back and see 1) how many scores came from the awful Galway kickouts and 2) how Galway dropped the heads and lost their discipline in the final quarter. It's one thing to beat a team playing well; it's a whole different story when the opposition are awful.
Mayo as a comparison beat Kerry, Tyrone, Donegal and Roscommon in the league. They lost to Dublin, Cavan and Monaghan.
In the champion they beat Sligo, lost by a point to Galway, beat Derry (despite one of the worst shooting displays in living memory), beat Clare and beat Cork.
Mayo played 12 won 8 lost 4 this year.
Also if you look at the 4 loses, bar the drubbing by Dublin, they lost to Galway by a point, Cavan by 2 and Monaghan by 2, which suggests that they are a resilient side who will battle to the end.
That's just the evidence of this year - throw in the evidence of the last few years and what Mayo have achieved versus what Roscommon have and it's clear why Roscommon are 3/1.
Personally I think 3/1 is too short - I would have said Roscommon were more like a 4/1 chance.
All too often in sport (especially in the GAA because of the low volume of matches) too much significance is placed on a team's last match as opposed to their most recent run of games.
Quote from: twohands!!! on July 25, 2017, 01:17:42 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on July 25, 2017, 12:57:25 PM
Why are Roscommon 3/1 to win this game? Mayo have looked a jaded side in the qualifiers needing extra time to get past Cork and Derry. Roscommon are being heavily underestimated here I think as Mayo look to be largely a team in decline.
Roscommon have played 9 games this year and won 3 of them.
In the league they lost to Dublin, Kerry, Donegal, Monaghan, Mayo, Tyrone.
The one team they beat was Cavan, who were also relegated.
They beat Leitrim by 17 points, which sounds impressive but Carlow beat them by 7 points in the qualifier so it's clear that Leitrim were going no-where this year.
Leitrim playing in Division 4 won 4 games and lost 3 games and their one championship win was narrowly getting by London.
The beat an abject Galway in the Connacht final - watch the game back and see 1) how many scores came from the awful Galway kickouts and 2) how Galway dropped the heads and lost their discipline in the final quarter. It's one thing to beat a team playing well; it's a whole different story when the opposition are awful.
Mayo as a comparison beat Kerry, Tyrone, Donegal and Roscommon in the league. They lost to Dublin, Cavan and Monaghan.
In the champion they beat Sligo, lost by a point to Galway, beat Derry (despite one of the worst shooting displays in living memory), beat Clare and beat Cork.
Mayo played 12 won 8 lost 4 this year.
Also if you look at the 4 loses, bar the drubbing by Dublin, they lost to Galway by a point, Cavan by 2 and Monaghan by 2, which suggests that they are a resilient side who will battle to the end.
That's just the evidence of this year - throw in the evidence of the last few years and what Mayo have achieved versus what Roscommon have and it's clear why Roscommon are 3/1.
Personally I think 3/1 is too short - I would have said Roscommon were more like a 4/1 chance.
All too often in sport (especially in the GAA because of the low volume of matches) too much significance is placed on a team's last match as opposed to their most recent run of games.
Mayo also had a man sent off in the first half against Galway
Quote from: Syferus on July 25, 2017, 01:01:37 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on July 25, 2017, 12:59:47 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on July 25, 2017, 12:57:25 PM
Why are Roscommon 3/1 to win this game? Mayo have looked a jaded side in the qualifiers needing extra time to get past Cork and Derry. Roscommon are being heavily underestimated here I think as Mayo look to be largely a team in decline.
Because they beat Leitrim and a Galway team who just never got going. Also just after a terrible league campaign.
We do suck.
And Shannon
Quote from: seafoid on July 25, 2017, 01:21:58 PM
Quote from: Syferus on July 25, 2017, 01:01:37 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on July 25, 2017, 12:59:47 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on July 25, 2017, 12:57:25 PM
Why are Roscommon 3/1 to win this game? Mayo have looked a jaded side in the qualifiers needing extra time to get past Cork and Derry. Roscommon are being heavily underestimated here I think as Mayo look to be largely a team in decline.
Because they beat Leitrim and a Galway team who just never got going. Also just after a terrible league campaign.
We do suck.
And Shannon
Donie isn't involved this year.
Ah now in fairness, they've reduced the odds from 4/1 to 3/1. We have not won a championship game in Croke Park since that amazing semi-final win over Armagh in 1980. 37 effin years. Put it this way, Tony McManus was a young garsoon that day and played mighty stuff to bring us back from the dead. Tony is an auld lad now and his young lad will be playing on Sunday. That's how long we are waiting for a win in Croke Park, when in 1980 we played some spellbinding football and looked to have the world at our feet. Mayo now win there regularly - every year they have big wins up there. They came within a whisker of winning the All-Ireland last year. Indeed, I'd say both Dublin and Kerry still fear them. They are rightly favourites. However, it's a wonderful opportunity for our very young team to make history.
Quote from: Rossfan on July 25, 2017, 01:02:01 PM
3/1 because Bookmakers think we haven't a hope.
Because we only shocked Galway who in their arrogance were thinking of their semi final v Kerry.
Because most media etc don't know the names of most of our players
Because we're seen as part of Ireland's Gaza Strip
And lots of other insulting stuff..
Because Rosscommon have done sweet fc*k all in Croke Park, since Moses was in short trousers. When you have accomplished something in HQ that merits respect, you'll get it. Simple as. Don't be so sensitive.
Quote from: Mac2 on July 25, 2017, 12:30:12 PM
Looks like Parsons is out, going to be a major loss, with Vaughan probably to come in, he's not great cover for that area.
If that is true, then the odds as daft, and the oddsmakers are purely basing it on county reputations not on any fundamental analysis.
Tom Parsons has been immense this year (odd wayward shot aside), his fitness has been off the charts and he has still been going strong at the end of extra times, and he has also been one of two or three go to guys for Clarke for kick outs.
IMO, a potential game changer as our mobility and fielding options are severely impacted. Nobody expects Seamus O Shea to last 70 mins any more, and in a full blown championship game in Croke Park he wont. I feel that without Barry Moran and to a lesser extent Conor O Shea our options around the middle are incredibly limited. We don't have much cover for that position right now.
Does anybody want to hazard a guess, what will our midfield look like with twenty minutes to go, assuming Tom is not fit. Kind of scary TBH.
Jeepers Mayo seem to get a lot of drawn matches over the past few years.
They've already went to extra time with two Div 2 teams already this year and the last 3 years they had draws with Kerry and Dublin and lost the replays each time.
As Brolly said on Sunday night, they provide some entertainment value for the neutral.
On another note, Tyrone won Sam in 2005 playing 10 games including beating the Ulster, Leinster and Munster champions. Could Mayo do something similar this year playing 8 games?
Seems like we've a few amatuer Gambling experts in here. How about you state what you think the true odds should be on all 3 selections, to 100%, instead of spouting about disrespect. Throw in what the handicap should be for good measure
Quote from: joemamas on July 25, 2017, 01:46:36 PM
Quote from: Mac2 on July 25, 2017, 12:30:12 PM
Looks like Parsons is out, going to be a major loss, with Vaughan probably to come in, he's not great cover for that area.
If that is true, then the odds as daft, and the oddsmakers are purely basing it on county reputations not on any fundamental analysis.
Tom Parsons has been immense this year (odd wayward shot aside), his fitness has been off the charts and he has still been going strong at the end of extra times, and he has also been one of two or three go to guys for Clarke for kick outs.
IMO, a potential game changer as our mobility and fielding options are severely impacted. Nobody expects Seamus O Shea to last 70 mins any more, and in a full blown championship game in Croke Park he wont. I feel that without Barry Moran and to a lesser extent Conor O Shea our options around the middle are incredibly limited. We don't have much cover for that position right now.
Does anybody want to hazard a guess, what will our midfield look like with twenty minutes to go, assuming Tom is not fit. Kind of scary TBH.
Should have added that his distribution has improved significantly over the past few years, he was involved in a lot of scores last Saturday.
Quote from: twohands!!! on July 25, 2017, 01:17:42 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on July 25, 2017, 12:57:25 PM
Why are Roscommon 3/1 to win this game? Mayo have looked a jaded side in the qualifiers needing extra time to get past Cork and Derry. Roscommon are being heavily underestimated here I think as Mayo look to be largely a team in decline.
Roscommon have played 9 games this year and won 3 of them.
In the league they lost to Dublin, Kerry, Donegal, Monaghan, Mayo, Tyrone.
The one team they beat was Cavan, who were also relegated.
They beat Leitrim by 17 points, which sounds impressive but Carlow beat them by 7 points in the qualifier so it's clear that Leitrim were going no-where this year.
Leitrim playing in Division 4 won 4 games and lost 3 games and their one championship win was narrowly getting by London.
The beat an abject Galway in the Connacht final - watch the game back and see 1) how many scores came from the awful Galway kickouts and 2) how Galway dropped the heads and lost their discipline in the final quarter. It's one thing to beat a team playing well; it's a whole different story when the opposition are awful.
Mayo as a comparison beat Kerry, Tyrone, Donegal and Roscommon in the league. They lost to Dublin, Cavan and Monaghan.
In the champion they beat Sligo, lost by a point to Galway, beat Derry (despite one of the worst shooting displays in living memory), beat Clare and beat Cork.
Mayo played 12 won 8 lost 4 this year.
Also if you look at the 4 loses, bar the drubbing by Dublin, they lost to Galway by a point, Cavan by 2 and Monaghan by 2, which suggests that they are a resilient side who will battle to the end.
That's just the evidence of this year - throw in the evidence of the last few years and what Mayo have achieved versus what Roscommon have and it's clear why Roscommon are 3/1.
Personally I think 3/1 is too short - I would have said Roscommon were more like a 4/1 chance.
All too often in sport (especially in the GAA because of the low volume of matches) too much significance is placed on a team's last match as opposed to their most recent run of games.
In fairness I think a bit of that Galway awfulness might had something to with the Roscommon performance on the day and how they had their homework done. Galway weren't as awful as Donegal were on Saturday and i don't think reading into Roscommons league form this year is wise as McStay and his management have said they took the gamble not to put the same effort into it as last year when they beat Kerry,Donegal away and hammered more or less the same Cork team that put it up to Mayo last Saturday.
What should give Roscommon hope is Monaghan,Cavan were capable of beating Mayo away this year against the odds,Galway weren't expected to beat Mayo again and Derry,Cork two Div 2 sides who won few matches this year both brought Mayo to extra time and could easily have won.
Evidence of last 3 Mayo v Roscommon championship games is two of them Mayo won by the skin of their teeth in 2011 and 2014. How competitive this game will be depends how focused Roscommon will be after winning their first Connacht title for 7 year and how they handle the Croke park occasion as very few of the starters have played a senior championship game in Croke park before nevermind winning there.
Massive crowds
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFkeLgOXYAAfyIb.jpg)
https://www.facebook.com/mary.cox.1213986/posts/854017948107946
Sure what else would we be at Sunday? Great to see.
Did the Ros team change much since last year? Was last year's full back not setting up a business or something ?
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/i-dont-fear-mayo-we-have-beaten-them-at-underage-mcmanus-35964367.html
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Massive crowds
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https://www.facebook.com/mary.cox.1213986/posts/854017948107946
Is that the Ballroom of Romance?
Quote from: seafoid on July 25, 2017, 03:14:37 PM
Did the Ros team change much since last year? Was last year's full back not setting up a business or something ?
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/i-dont-fear-mayo-we-have-beaten-them-at-underage-mcmanus-35964367.html
Last years full back Neil Collins is in New York, Took a year out minimum is trying to get a fashion business off the group, Cryptic clique its called.
He was injured at the tail end of last year anyway badly tearing his hamstring . He was probably our best defender and is a massive loss
The question of a tiring Mayo team, miles on the clock etc and the effects of playing extra time, keep cropping up. On the other hand county teams are said to train like professionals so you would imagine that players should be able to bounce back quite easily. Mental toughness is the main ingredient required and Mayo seem to have that.
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Massive crowds
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https://www.facebook.com/mary.cox.1213986/posts/854017948107946
Is that the Ballroom of Romance?
I think it may be outside Hyde Park, nice parking btw ::)
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 25, 2017, 02:16:32 PM
In fairness I think a bit of that Galway awfulness might had something to with the Roscommon performance on the day and how they had their homework done. Galway weren't as awful as Donegal were on Saturday and i don't think reading into Roscommons league form this year is wise as McStay and his management have said they took the gamble not to put the same effort into it as last year when they beat Kerry,Donegal away and hammered more or less the same Cork team that put it up to Mayo last Saturday.
What should give Roscommon hope is Monaghan,Cavan were capable of beating Mayo away this year against the odds,Galway weren't expected to beat Mayo again and Derry,Cork two Div 2 sides who won few matches this year both brought Mayo to extra time and could easily have won.
Evidence of last 3 Mayo v Roscommon championship games is two of them Mayo won by the skin of their teeth in 2011 and 2014. How competitive this game will be depends how focused Roscommon will be after winning their first Connacht title for 7 year and how they handle the Croke park occasion as very few of the starters have played a senior championship game in Croke park before nevermind winning there.
To their credit Roscommon took advantage and made hay of Galway's awfulness but to me more of the errors in the Galway game were of the self-inflicted type as opposed to those that come about due to good Roscommon play.
I'm always very sceptical about managers coming out after a poor league campaign and saying they weren't putting 100% effort into it.
What does this even mean? How exactly does a management team go about this?
Dublin as one example were hardly going all guns blazing in the league and they still got to a final.
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Massive crowds
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https://www.facebook.com/mary.cox.1213986/posts/854017948107946
Is that the Ballroom of Romance?
I think it may be outside Hyde Park, nice parking btw ::)
Roscommon County board office which is closer to the racecourse than Hyde park.
Quote from: twohands!!! on July 25, 2017, 03:48:02 PM
To their credit Roscommon took advantage and made hay of Galway's awfulness but to me more of the errors in the Galway game were of the self-inflicted type as opposed to those that come about due to good Roscommon play.
I'm always very sceptical about managers coming out after a poor league campaign and saying they weren't putting 100% effort into it.
What does this even mean? How exactly does a management team go about this?
Dublin as one example were hardly going all guns blazing in the league and they still got to a final.
From the off Galway were forced into a number of mistakes in the Connacht final due to Roscommons high pressure game. Maybe Galway weren't expecting that type of intensity from Roscommon but i think the rossies deserve a bit more credit than just putting it down to Galway awfulness, IMO they were made look awful more than anything else.
Dublin have the strength in depth to do as they like in the league didn't their 3rd string team win the O Byrne cup? Roscommon especially with their huge turn over of players this year don't have that luxury. Donegal,Cavan put a lot of effort into the league and both had very little left in the tank for championship football this summer Monaghans form since the league has dipped also.
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Quote from: mayo.mick on July 25, 2017, 03:07:58 PM
Massive crowds
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https://www.facebook.com/mary.cox.1213986/posts/854017948107946
Is that the Ballroom of Romance?
Architecture in the handball alley vernacular style
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Quote from: twohands!!! on July 25, 2017, 03:48:02 PM
To their credit Roscommon took advantage and made hay of Galway's awfulness but to me more of the errors in the Galway game were of the self-inflicted type as opposed to those that come about due to good Roscommon play.
I'm always very sceptical about managers coming out after a poor league campaign and saying they weren't putting 100% effort into it.
What does this even mean? How exactly does a management team go about this?
Dublin as one example were hardly going all guns blazing in the league and they still got to a final.
From the off Galway were forced into a number of mistakes in the Connacht final due to Roscommons high pressure game. Maybe Galway weren't expected that type of intensity from Roscommon but i think the rossies deserve a bit more credit than just putting it down to Galway awfulness, IMO they were made look awful more than anything else.
Dublin have the strength in depth to do as they like in the league didn't their 3rd string team win the O Byrne cup? Roscommon especially with their huge turn over of players this year don't have that luxury. Donegal,Cavan put a lot of effort into the league and both had very little left in the tank for championship football this summer Monaghans form since the league has dipped also.
I think it's more like Donegal and Cavan don't have the players or the system at the moment. Neither did much in the league. Monaghan are a bit off their peak of a year or 2 ago.
Ros targeted Galway's weak point which was the kickout. They scored 1-3 from it.
that gave them the momentum to win the match.
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Massive crowds
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https://www.facebook.com/mary.cox.1213986/posts/854017948107946
Is that the Ballroom of Romance?
I think it may be outside Hyde Park, nice parking btw ::)
It's out the Oran road in the town, the CB offices are there and not at the Hyde.
I suppose it wouldn't look like much to people who have Prenty's millions on tap, but we are an amateur county after all.
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Massive crowds
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https://www.facebook.com/mary.cox.1213986/posts/854017948107946
Is that the Ballroom of Romance?
I think it may be outside Hyde Park, nice parking btw ::)
It's out the Oran road in the town, the CB offices are there and not at the Hyde.
I suppose it wouldn't look like much to people who have Prunty's millions on tap, but we are an amateur county after all.
that some crowd for a non sheep related event in Roscommon.
thank god for the season tickets
On a positive note Mayo's point taking was fantastic on Saturday with very wides but the alternative view is that despite Mayo's impressive display in front of the post they were taken to extra time by an average div 2 side.
Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 25, 2017, 05:23:35 PM
On a positive note Mayo's point taking was fantastic on Saturday with very wides but the alternative view is that despite Mayo's impressive display in front of the post they were taken to extra time by an average div 2 side.
true
Cork were admiring the shooting most of the game too
whats Mayo's average score in normal time in this year's championship?
Quote from: seafoid on July 25, 2017, 04:34:25 PM
I think it's more like Donegal and Cavan don't have the players or the system at the moment. Neither did much in the league. Monaghan are a bit off their peak of a year or 2 ago.
Ros targeted Galway's weak point which was the kickout. They scored 1-3 from it.
that gave them the momentum to win the match.
Cavan won 4 in a row Ulster U21 titles 2011 to 2014, don't have the players? this year was their first year back in Div one for a long time, they were still in with a chance of staying up in round 7 having beaten Mayo in MacHale park,drew with Monaghan and Kerry. Donegal finished 3rd in Div one this year only missed out on the final on scoring difference. Jury is out on Monaghan if they have peaked or not they have a mixture of youth and experience on their team now and another All Ireland quarter final appearance for them has to be considered another good years work.
Generally to win any match you must play to your strengths and attack the weak points of the oppsotion as best you can.
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Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 25, 2017, 05:23:35 PM
On a positive note Mayo's point taking was fantastic on Saturday with very wides but the alternative view is that despite Mayo's impressive display in front of the post they were taken to extra time by an average div 2 side.
true
Cork were admiring the shooting most of the game too
whats Mayo's average score in normal time in this year's championship?
Mayo's average score for our 5 championship games in normal time is 18 points per game.
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Quote from: seafoid on July 25, 2017, 04:34:25 PM
I think it's more like Donegal and Cavan don't have the players or the system at the moment. Neither did much in the league. Monaghan are a bit off their peak of a year or 2 ago.
Ros targeted Galway's weak point which was the kickout. They scored 1-3 from it.
that gave them the momentum to win the match.
Cavan won 4 in a row Ulster U21 titles 2011 to 2014, don't have the players? this year was their first year back in Div one for a long time, they were still in with a chance of staying up in round 7 having beaten Mayo in MacHale park,drew with Monaghan and Kerry. Donegal finished 3rd in Div one this year only missed out on the final on scoring difference. Jury is out on Monaghan if they have peaked or not they have a mixture of youth and experience on their team now and another All Ireland quarter final appearance for them has to be considered another good years work.
Generally to win any match you must play to your strengths and attack the weak points of the oppsotion as best you can.
Galway won 3x u21 all Irelands recently and don't have all the players they need
4x u21 provincial might get you 2 or 3 seniors
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I think it's more like Donegal and Cavan don't have the players or the system at the moment. Neither did much in the league. Monaghan are a bit off their peak of a year or 2 ago.
Ros targeted Galway's weak point which was the kickout. They scored 1-3 from it.
that gave them the momentum to win the match.
Cavan won 4 in a row Ulster U21 titles 2011 to 2014, don't have the players? this year was their first year back in Div one for a long time, they were still in with a chance of staying up in round 7 having beaten Mayo in MacHale park,drew with Monaghan and Kerry. Donegal finished 3rd in Div one this year only missed out on the final on scoring difference. Jury is out on Monaghan if they have peaked or not they have a mixture of youth and experience on their team now and another All Ireland quarter final appearance for them has to be considered another good years work.
Generally to win any match you must play to your strengths and attack the weak points of the oppsotion as best you can.
Galway won 3x u21 all Irelands recently and don't have all the players they need
4x u21 provincial might get you 2 or 3 seniors
Playing to the right system to get the best out of your players has been Galways problems over the years. You are doing something seriously wrong if you only get 2 or 3 seniors out of 4 provincial winning U21 teams.
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I think it's more like Donegal and Cavan don't have the players or the system at the moment. Neither did much in the league. Monaghan are a bit off their peak of a year or 2 ago.
Ros targeted Galway's weak point which was the kickout. They scored 1-3 from it.
that gave them the momentum to win the match.
Cavan won 4 in a row Ulster U21 titles 2011 to 2014, don't have the players? this year was their first year back in Div one for a long time, they were still in with a chance of staying up in round 7 having beaten Mayo in MacHale park,drew with Monaghan and Kerry. Donegal finished 3rd in Div one this year only missed out on the final on scoring difference. Jury is out on Monaghan if they have peaked or not they have a mixture of youth and experience on their team now and another All Ireland quarter final appearance for them has to be considered another good years work.
Generally to win any match you must play to your strengths and attack the weak points of the oppsotion as best you can.
Galway won 3x u21 all Irelands recently and don't have all the players they need
4x u21 provincial might get you 2 or 3 seniors
Playing to the right system to get the best out of your players has been Galways problems over the years. You are doing something seriously wrong if you only get 2 or 3 seniors out of 4 provincial winning U21 teams.
Not necessarily. The ideal situation is where you have a core of experienced players in the team so that the young ones can learn from them. Galway had very few of those at the time.
Limerick hurlers would be a good example. They won 3 under 21s in a row
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On a positive note Mayo's point taking was fantastic on Saturday with very wides but the alternative view is that despite Mayo's impressive display in front of the post they were taken to extra time by an average div 2 side.
true
Cork were admiring the shooting most of the game too
whats Mayo's average score in normal time in this year's championship?
Mayo's average score for our 5 championship games in normal time is 18 points per game.
The Mayo average score this time last year going into the Quarter final was 20 points per game and all that was needed to win the quarter final was 13 points against a wasteful Tyrone.
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Quote from: seafoid on July 25, 2017, 04:34:25 PM
I think it's more like Donegal and Cavan don't have the players or the system at the moment. Neither did much in the league. Monaghan are a bit off their peak of a year or 2 ago.
Ros targeted Galway's weak point which was the kickout. They scored 1-3 from it.
that gave them the momentum to win the match.
Cavan won 4 in a row Ulster U21 titles 2011 to 2014, don't have the players? this year was their first year back in Div one for a long time, they were still in with a chance of staying up in round 7 having beaten Mayo in MacHale park,drew with Monaghan and Kerry. Donegal finished 3rd in Div one this year only missed out on the final on scoring difference. Jury is out on Monaghan if they have peaked or not they have a mixture of youth and experience on their team now and another All Ireland quarter final appearance for them has to be considered another good years work.
Generally to win any match you must play to your strengths and attack the weak points of the oppsotion as best you can.
Galway won 3x u21 all Irelands recently and don't have all the players they need
4x u21 provincial might get you 2 or 3 seniors
Playing to the right system to get the best out of your players has been Galways problems over the years. You are doing something seriously wrong if you only get 2 or 3 seniors out of 4 provincial winning U21 teams.
From the 2011 & 2103 AI wining u21 teams only Flynn, Walsh, Comer & Burke started with Cummins coming off the bench. FOC was injured on Saturday. I'd say thats a fairly disappointing return from those 2 teams. Daithi Burke would more than likely be on the panel if he wasn't such an outstanding hurler. Yet there was 5 players from the 2015 u21 team who didn't win Connacht playing against Donegal last Saturday in Comer, Kerin, Brannigan, Heaney & Silke.
http://www.mayonews.ie/news/30452-extra-trains-expected-for-mayo-and-roscommon-fans
Death machines
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Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 25, 2017, 05:23:35 PM
On a positive note Mayo's point taking was fantastic on Saturday with very wides but the alternative view is that despite Mayo's impressive display in front of the post they were taken to extra time by an average div 2 side.
true
Cork were admiring the shooting most of the game too
whats Mayo's average score in normal time in this year's championship?
Mayo's average score for our 5 championship games in normal time is 18 points per game.
The Mayo average score this time last year going into the Quarter final was 20 points per game and all that was needed to win the quarter final was 13 points against a wasteful Tyrone.
interesting
so it has reduced by 2 per game?
and teams usually tighten up and score less as they progress in the championship
Quote from: Syferus on July 25, 2017, 07:32:40 PM
http://www.mayonews.ie/news/30452-extra-trains-expected-for-mayo-and-roscommon-fans
Death machines
I told ya
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Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 25, 2017, 05:23:35 PM
On a positive note Mayo's point taking was fantastic on Saturday with very wides but the alternative view is that despite Mayo's impressive display in front of the post they were taken to extra time by an average div 2 side.
true
Cork were admiring the shooting most of the game too
whats Mayo's average score in normal time in this year's championship?
Mayo's average score for our 5 championship games in normal time is 18 points per game.
The Mayo average score this time last year going into the Quarter final was 20 points per game and all that was needed to win the quarter final was 13 points against a wasteful Tyrone.
interesting
so it has reduced by 2 per game?
and teams usually tighten up and score less as they progress in the championship
Well factor in we did play London who were very weak last year so this probably skewed our average a bit.
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Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 25, 2017, 05:23:35 PM
On a positive note Mayo's point taking was fantastic on Saturday with very wides but the alternative view is that despite Mayo's impressive display in front of the post they were taken to extra time by an average div 2 side.
true
Cork were admiring the shooting most of the game too
whats Mayo's average score in normal time in this year's championship?
Mayo's average score for our 5 championship games in normal time is 18 points per game.
The Mayo average score this time last year going into the Quarter final was 20 points per game and all that was needed to win the quarter final was 13 points against a wasteful Tyrone.
interesting
so it has reduced by 2 per game?
and teams usually tighten up and score less as they progress in the championship
Well factor in we did play London who were very weak last year so this probably skewed our average a bit.
Corks defence might be weaker than London's. I know we haven't be too great ourselves but I couldn't get how poor they were defensively. Even lads like Powter who did well going forward could rarely get close enough even lay a hand on their marker.
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Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 25, 2017, 05:23:35 PM
On a positive note Mayo's point taking was fantastic on Saturday with very wides but the alternative view is that despite Mayo's impressive display in front of the post they were taken to extra time by an average div 2 side.
true
Cork were admiring the shooting most of the game too
whats Mayo's average score in normal time in this year's championship?
Mayo's average score for our 5 championship games in normal time is 18 points per game.
The Mayo average score this time last year going into the Quarter final was 20 points per game and all that was needed to win the quarter final was 13 points against a wasteful Tyrone.
interesting
so it has reduced by 2 per game?
and teams usually tighten up and score less as they progress in the championship
Well factor in we did play London who were very weak last year so this probably skewed our average a bit.
Corks defence might be weaker than London's. I know we haven't be too great ourselves but I couldn't get how poor they were defensively. Even lads like Powter who did well going forward could rarely get close enough even lay a hand on their marker.
Ah come on Sy , I know you don't rate Cork but to compare Shields , Cadogan , Loughrey and Powter to whomever fills in for London on yearly basis is a stretch even for an excitable fella like yourself!!
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On a positive note Mayo's point taking was fantastic on Saturday with very wides but the alternative view is that despite Mayo's impressive display in front of the post they were taken to extra time by an average div 2 side.
true
Cork were admiring the shooting most of the game too
whats Mayo's average score in normal time in this year's championship?
Mayo's average score for our 5 championship games in normal time is 18 points per game.
The Mayo average score this time last year going into the Quarter final was 20 points per game and all that was needed to win the quarter final was 13 points against a wasteful Tyrone.
interesting
so it has reduced by 2 per game?
and teams usually tighten up and score less as they progress in the championship
Well factor in we did play London who were very weak last year so this probably skewed our average a bit.
Corks defence might be weaker than London's. I know we haven't be too great ourselves but I couldn't get how poor they were defensively. Even lads like Powter who did well going forward could rarely get close enough even lay a hand on their marker.
Ah come on Sy , I know you don't rate Cork but to compare Shields , Cadogan , Loughrey and Powter to whomever fills in for London on yearly basis is a stretch even for an excitable fella like yourself!!
Maybe not in the fantasy world where there's this huge untapped potential in those players but in terms of their loose defending and continually losing track of men inside their 45 it's hard to say they were much better than a D4 defence on Saturday. Someone like Carlow would have definitely made Mayo work harder for their scores, for example.
Doesn't matter now, they're gone and it's our job to stop Mayo now. It will be interesting to see what combination of players Mayo use to mark Dev, Smith, Connolly and the Murtaghs. There's talk of Keegan being tasked to do a man-marking job on Enda but he gives up a lot of height to Smith so it would mean he could become a liability on kick-outs.
You'd assume on paper that Ger Caff/Vaughan would be on Diarmuid Murtagh but neither have shown an ability to be tight enough markers for that job IMHO. Higgins?
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On a positive note Mayo's point taking was fantastic on Saturday with very wides but the alternative view is that despite Mayo's impressive display in front of the post they were taken to extra time by an average div 2 side.
true
Cork were admiring the shooting most of the game too
whats Mayo's average score in normal time in this year's championship?
Mayo's average score for our 5 championship games in normal time is 18 points per game.
The Mayo average score this time last year going into the Quarter final was 20 points per game and all that was needed to win the quarter final was 13 points against a wasteful Tyrone.
interesting
so it has reduced by 2 per game?
and teams usually tighten up and score less as they progress in the championship
Well factor in we did play London who were very weak last year so this probably skewed our average a bit.
Corks defence might be weaker than London's. I know we haven't be too great ourselves but I couldn't get how poor they were defensively. Even lads like Powter who did well going forward could rarely get close enough even lay a hand on their marker.
Ah come on Sy , I know you don't rate Cork but to compare Shields , Cadogan , Loughrey and Powter to whomever fills in for London on yearly basis is a stretch even for an excitable fella like yourself!!
Maybe not in the fantasy world where there's this huge untapped potential in those players but in terms of their loose defending and continually losing track of men inside their 45 it's hard to say they were much better than a D4 defence on Saturday. Someone like Carlow would have definitely made Mayo work harder for their scores, for example.
Doesn't matter now, they're gone and it's our job to stop Mayo now. It will be interesting to see what combination of players Mayo use to mark Dev, Smith, Connolly and the Murtaghs. There's talk of Keegan being tasked to do a man-marking job on Enda but he gives up a lot of height to Smith so it would mean he could become a liability on kick-outs.
You'd assume on paper that Ger Caff/Vaughan would be on Diarmuid Murtagh but neither have shown an ability to be tight enough markers for that job IMHO. Higgins?
Higgins is a great footballer, great defender and a great reader of the game but a good man marker he has never really been in my opinion. Harrison , Barrett & Caff along with Keegan would be the best man markers there at the moment but Ger is bang out of form and shouldn't start to be honest and Barrett is needed at CHB to shore up the centre. I think you will see Vaughan out around the middle so big decisions for Rochford in who picks up who and where etc.. If Keegan does a man marking job it likely could be one of the Murtaghs as much as Enda Smith.
Quote from: Crete Boom on July 25, 2017, 09:54:46 PM
I know you don't rate Cork but to compare Shields , Cadogan , Loughrey and Powter to whomever fills in for London on yearly basis is a stretch even for an excitable fella like yourself!!
Loughrey going off injured early was a big loss to Cork, Shields was a good defender when Cork were good about 6 or 7 years ago but against Kerry in the Munster final and against Mayo last Saturday he was worse than useless. Was said Cadogan started his first match in a year and it showed last Saturday, Powter going off injured in extra time another big loss.
Things not good in mayo camp, more injuries rumoured too. Not good lads not good at all.
Quote from: larryin89 on July 25, 2017, 10:51:14 PM
Things not good in mayo camp, more injuries rumoured too. Not good lads not good at all.
Oh Jesus you've really it sold us on it now Larrin. Sure we mightn't even bother turning up it will be that easy..
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Things not good in mayo camp, more injuries rumoured too. Not good lads not good at all.
:) ;) :D ;D :-*
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Quote from: larryin89 on July 25, 2017, 10:51:14 PM
Things not good in mayo camp, more injuries rumoured too. Not good lads not good at all.
:) ;) :D ;D :-*
I am hearing terrible exhaustion in Mayo camp. James Horan needed oxygen after speaking on over a thousand different podcasts this week. The man has been giving his all for the Mayo cause, on satelite, audio, traditional and new media. David Brady too is reported to have pulled a muscle in his jaw, as his valued opinion was sought everywhere. Supposedly there's relief in the Kerry and Dublin camps because there's been great worry that the Mayo media pundits are trying to claim the number one spot. Rumours that they are over the hill have been greatly exaggerated. Even Martin Carney is said to be back to his best.... on Midwest.
;D
Good man larryin. You have them hopping up and down like mad. On a more football related note what's the genuine feeling in Roscommon? Is there a bullish mood brewing thinking that the team will give Mayo the knockout blow; or do you think that there's still a possibility that Mayo might do the business once again, despite the tired legs and high mileage?
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 26, 2017, 07:35:07 AM
Good man larryin. You have them hopping up and down like mad. On a more football related note what's the genuine feeling in Roscommon? Is there a bullish mood brewing thinking that the team will give Mayo the knockout blow; or do you think that there's still a possibility that Mayo might do the business once again, despite the tired legs and high mileage?
Are you asking them are they feeling bullish or sheepish?
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 26, 2017, 07:35:07 AM
Good man larryin. You have them hopping up and down like mad. On a more football related note what's the genuine feeling in Roscommon? Is there a bullish mood brewing thinking that the team will give Mayo the knockout blow; or do you think that there's still a possibility that Mayo might do the business once again, despite the tired legs and high mileage?
My Ros buddies feel they have a great chance. We're tired and on the slide and they are on the up with nothing to lose is the general feeling they have from talking to them. One or two I've spoken to feel we'll have too much power and experience for them but generally there is a confidence among the Rossies.
Says the Roscommon man.
Quote from: ballinaman on July 26, 2017, 07:40:03 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 26, 2017, 07:35:07 AM
Good man larryin. You have them hopping up and down like mad. On a more football related note what's the genuine feeling in Roscommon? Is there a bullish mood brewing thinking that the team will give Mayo the knockout blow; or do you think that there's still a possibility that Mayo might do the business once again, despite the tired legs and high mileage?
Are you asking them are they feeling bullish or sheepish?
;D ;D
Yeah, we'll shear them hoors alright.
If any of them pesky Rossies are entertaining grand notions they should remember that they were feeling the same way about Galway in last year's Connacht Final and look what happened to them?
I can't see them beating Mayo because of the Croke Park factor.
Mayo play well at Headquarters. They always have since Horan arrived on the scene and even when beaten, they fought to the very end. Croke Park holds no fear for them and they always rise to the occasion while the sheepophiles know sweet feck all about what lies ahead.
Mayo by at least five!
Hopefully we'll be able to keep the ball kicked out to ye anyway Lar.
Quote from: Lar Naparka on July 26, 2017, 11:42:40 AM
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Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 26, 2017, 07:35:07 AM
Good man larryin. You have them hopping up and down like mad. On a more football related note what's the genuine feeling in Roscommon? Is there a bullish mood brewing thinking that the team will give Mayo the knockout blow; or do you think that there's still a possibility that Mayo might do the business once again, despite the tired legs and high mileage?
Are you asking them are they feeling bullish or sheepish?
;D ;D
Yeah, we'll shear them hoors alright.
If any of them pesky Rossies are entertaining grand notions they should remember that they were feeling the same way about Galway in last year's Connacht Final and look what happened to them?
I can't see them beating Mayo because of the Croke Park factor.
Mayo play well at Headquarters. They always have since Horan arrived on the scene and even when beaten, they fought to the very end. Croke Park holds no fear for them and they always rise to the occasion while the sheepophiles know sweet feck all about what lies ahead.
Mayo by at least five!
Most of this team have played at Croker multiple times at underage, league finals and semi finals, and the league itself. Some of them even won AI senior titles there and did what terrifies Mayo lads and walked up the Hogan Stand, Lar. I think people overstate what is a bit of grass means to the end result. Any footballer would their boots is going to relish playing at Croker.
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Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 26, 2017, 07:35:07 AM
Good man larryin. You have them hopping up and down like mad. On a more football related note what's the genuine feeling in Roscommon? Is there a bullish mood brewing thinking that the team will give Mayo the knockout blow; or do you think that there's still a possibility that Mayo might do the business once again, despite the tired legs and high mileage?
Are you asking them are they feeling bullish or sheepish?
;D ;D
Yeah, we'll shear them hoors alright.
If any of them pesky Rossies are entertaining grand notions they should remember that they were feeling the same way about Galway in last year's Connacht Final and look what happened to them?
I can't see them beating Mayo because of the Croke Park factor.
Mayo play well at Headquarters. They always have since Horan arrived on the scene and even when beaten, they fought to the very end. Croke Park holds no fear for them and they always rise to the occasion while the sheepophiles know sweet feck all about what lies ahead.
Mayo by at least five!
Most of this team have played at Croker multiple times at underage, league finals and semi finals, and the league itself. Some of them even won AI senior titles there and did what terrifies Mayo lads and walked up the Hogan Stand, Lar. I think people overstate what is a bit of grass means to the end result. Any footballer would their boots is going to relish playing at Croker.
Nah, Armageddon is nigh. Be afraid; be very afraid. ;D
Season tickets are in the accounts now, mighty seats as always!
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Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 26, 2017, 07:35:07 AM
Good man larryin. You have them hopping up and down like mad. On a more football related note what's the genuine feeling in Roscommon? Is there a bullish mood brewing thinking that the team will give Mayo the knockout blow; or do you think that there's still a possibility that Mayo might do the business once again, despite the tired legs and high mileage?
Are you asking them are they feeling bullish or sheepish?
;D ;D
Yeah, we'll shear them hoors alright.
If any of them pesky Rossies are entertaining grand notions they should remember that they were feeling the same way about Galway in last year's Connacht Final and look what happened to them?
I can't see them beating Mayo because of the Croke Park factor.
Mayo play well at Headquarters. They always have since Horan arrived on the scene and even when beaten, they fought to the very end. Croke Park holds no fear for them and they always rise to the occasion while the sheepophiles know sweet feck all about what lies ahead.
Mayo by at least five!
Most of this team have played at Croker multiple times at underage, league finals and semi finals, and the league itself. Some of them even won AI senior titles there and did what terrifies Mayo lads and walked up the Hogan Stand, Lar. I think people overstate what is a bit of grass means to the end result. Any footballer would their boots is going to relish playing at Croker.
Played multiple. i.e. a few, times and generally lost, often getting a hosing in the process
Quote from: Ballaghman on July 26, 2017, 01:39:33 PM
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Quote from: Lar Naparka on July 26, 2017, 11:42:40 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on July 26, 2017, 07:40:03 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 26, 2017, 07:35:07 AM
Good man larryin. You have them hopping up and down like mad. On a more football related note what's the genuine feeling in Roscommon? Is there a bullish mood brewing thinking that the team will give Mayo the knockout blow; or do you think that there's still a possibility that Mayo might do the business once again, despite the tired legs and high mileage?
Are you asking them are they feeling bullish or sheepish?
;D ;D
Yeah, we'll shear them hoors alright.
If any of them pesky Rossies are entertaining grand notions they should remember that they were feeling the same way about Galway in last year's Connacht Final and look what happened to them?
I can't see them beating Mayo because of the Croke Park factor.
Mayo play well at Headquarters. They always have since Horan arrived on the scene and even when beaten, they fought to the very end. Croke Park holds no fear for them and they always rise to the occasion while the sheepophiles know sweet feck all about what lies ahead.
Mayo by at least five!
Most of this team have played at Croker multiple times at underage, league finals and semi finals, and the league itself. Some of them even won AI senior titles there and did what terrifies Mayo lads and walked up the Hogan Stand, Lar. I think people overstate what is a bit of grass means to the end result. Any footballer would their boots is going to relish playing at Croker.
Played multiple. i.e. a few, times and generally lost, often getting a hosing in the process
Our record at senior in Croker over the last three or four years is 2-2. But don't let facts get in the way of your self-loathing attack on your own county.
Most of this team have played at Croker multiple times at underage, league finals and semi finals, and the league itself. Some of them even won AI senior titles there and did what terrifies Mayo lads and walked up the Hogan Stand, Lar. I think people overstate what is a bit of grass means to the end result. Any footballer would their boots is going to relish playing at Croker.
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Despite the above, playing in Croke Park is a definite plus to Mayo. The pitch plays differently to others and familiarity with the effect of the stands on the wind etc only comes with experience. If it were not so we wouldnt see it as such an advantage to the Dubs.
Quote from: mrhardyannual on July 26, 2017, 02:15:33 PM
Despite the above, playing in Croke Park is a definite plus to Mayo. The pitch plays differently to others and familiarity with the effect of the stands on the wind etc only comes with experience. If it were not so we wouldnt see it as such an advantage to the Dubs.
It's an advantage to Dublin because they have 50k jackeens hounding the ref for every game, it's their home feckin ground.
Second biggest pitch in Ireland after Croke Park?
Dr Hyde Park..
Pitch with the most difficult wind?
Salthill..
I'm not worried about Croker factor. At the end of the day, Roscommon had not won in Salthill since 1988. If a team is good enough, they will overcome history. It will come down to the best team on Sunday. Mayo are overwhelming favourites because they are in the top 3 teams in the country, and were a very close second to Dublin last year. Truth be told, they should have won the first day. This is now the stage where Mayo start playing. As I said, our young team will need to have the performance of their lives.
Quote from: Lar Naparka on July 26, 2017, 11:42:40 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on July 26, 2017, 07:40:03 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 26, 2017, 07:35:07 AM
Good man larryin. You have them hopping up and down like mad. On a more football related note what's the genuine feeling in Roscommon? Is there a bullish mood brewing thinking that the team will give Mayo the knockout blow; or do you think that there's still a possibility that Mayo might do the business once again, despite the tired legs and high mileage?
Are you asking them are they feeling bullish or sheepish?
;D ;D
Yeah, we'll shear them hoors alright.
If any of them pesky Rossies are entertaining grand notions they should remember that they were feeling the same way about Galway in last year's Connacht Final and look what happened to them?
Mayo by at least five!
Roscommon drew with Galway in that game using a very defensive approach
whats your point?
Quote from: Syferus on July 26, 2017, 02:18:10 PM
Quote from: mrhardyannual on July 26, 2017, 02:15:33 PM
Despite the above, playing in Croke Park is a definite plus to Mayo. The pitch plays differently to others and familiarity with the effect of the stands on the wind etc only comes with experience. If it were not so we wouldnt see it as such an advantage to the Dubs.
It's an advantage to Dublin because they have 50k jackeens hounding the ref for every game, it's their home feckin ground.
Second biggest pitch in Ireland after Croke Park?
Dr Hyde Park..
Pitch with the most difficult wind?
Salthill..
Is clones pitch not bigger than croker?
Quote from: Syferus on July 26, 2017, 01:44:35 PM
Quote from: Ballaghman on July 26, 2017, 01:39:33 PM
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Quote from: Lar Naparka on July 26, 2017, 11:42:40 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on July 26, 2017, 07:40:03 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 26, 2017, 07:35:07 AM
Good man larryin. You have them hopping up and down like mad. On a more football related note what's the genuine feeling in Roscommon? Is there a bullish mood brewing thinking that the team will give Mayo the knockout blow; or do you think that there's still a possibility that Mayo might do the business once again, despite the tired legs and high mileage?
Are you asking them are they feeling bullish or sheepish?
;D ;D
Yeah, we'll shear them hoors alright.
If any of them pesky Rossies are entertaining grand notions they should remember that they were feeling the same way about Galway in last year's Connacht Final and look what happened to them?
I can't see them beating Mayo because of the Croke Park factor.
Mayo play well at Headquarters. They always have since Horan arrived on the scene and even when beaten, they fought to the very end. Croke Park holds no fear for them and they always rise to the occasion while the sheepophiles know sweet feck all about what lies ahead.
Mayo by at least five!
Most of this team have played at Croker multiple times at underage, league finals and semi finals, and the league itself. Some of them even won AI senior titles there and did what terrifies Mayo lads and walked up the Hogan Stand, Lar. I think people overstate what is a bit of grass means to the end result. Any footballer would their boots is going to relish playing at Croker.
Played multiple. i.e. a few, times and generally lost, often getting a hosing in the process
Our record at senior in Croker over the last three or four years is 2-2. But don't let facts get in the way of your self-loathing attack on your own county.
That's an excellent sample size Syf, quite the researcher you are. What happened against Kerry and Dublin again? Absolute hosings!
I do think the pitch will suit your style of play though but it is a second home to our lads, 3 of which climbed the Hogan stand to collect a minor all-Ireland in 2013.
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Quote from: Lar Naparka on July 26, 2017, 11:42:40 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on July 26, 2017, 07:40:03 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 26, 2017, 07:35:07 AM
Good man larryin. You have them hopping up and down like mad. On a more football related note what's the genuine feeling in Roscommon? Is there a bullish mood brewing thinking that the team will give Mayo the knockout blow; or do you think that there's still a possibility that Mayo might do the business once again, despite the tired legs and high mileage?
Are you asking them are they feeling bullish or sheepish?
;D ;D
Yeah, we'll shear them hoors alright.
If any of them pesky Rossies are entertaining grand notions they should remember that they were feeling the same way about Galway in last year's Connacht Final and look what happened to them?
I can't see them beating Mayo because of the Croke Park factor.
Mayo play well at Headquarters. They always have since Horan arrived on the scene and even when beaten, they fought to the very end. Croke Park holds no fear for them and they always rise to the occasion while the sheepophiles know sweet feck all about what lies ahead.
Mayo by at least five!
Most of this team have played at Croker multiple times at underage, league finals and semi finals, and the league itself. Some of them even won AI senior titles there and did what terrifies Mayo lads and walked up the Hogan Stand, Lar. I think people overstate what is a bit of grass means to the end result. Any footballer would their boots is going to relish playing at Croker.
Played multiple. i.e. a few, times and generally lost, often getting a hosing in the process
Our record at senior in Croker over the last three or four years is 2-2. But don't let facts get in the way of your self-loathing attack on your own county.
That's an excellent sample size Syf, quite the researcher you are. What happened against Kerry and Dublin again? Absolute hosings!
I do think the pitch will suit your style of play though but it is a second home to our lads, 3 of which climbed the Hogan stand to collect a minor all-Ireland in 2013.
On another topic, is there going to be a moments applause for David Gavin at the match? Would be nice for both sides to join together for that.
Quote from: Lar Naparka on July 26, 2017, 11:42:40 AM
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Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 26, 2017, 07:35:07 AM
Good man larryin. You have them hopping up and down like mad. On a more football related note what's the genuine feeling in Roscommon? Is there a bullish mood brewing thinking that the team will give Mayo the knockout blow; or do you think that there's still a possibility that Mayo might do the business once again, despite the tired legs and high mileage?
Are you asking them are they feeling bullish or sheepish?
;D ;D
Yeah, we'll shear them hoors alright.
If any of them pesky Rossies are entertaining grand notions they should remember that they were feeling the same way about Galway in last year's Connacht Final and look what happened to them?
I can't see them beating Mayo because of the Croke Park factor.
Mayo play well at Headquarters. They always have since Horan arrived on the scene and even when beaten, they fought to the very end. Croke Park holds no fear for them and they always rise to the occasion while the sheepophiles know sweet feck all about what lies ahead.
Mayo by at least five!
Mayos last trip to Croke park wasn't a memorable one, well beaten against a Dublin side playing a few fringe players and Mayo closer to full strength only managing 7 points. The Mayo performances against Westmeath,Tipp in Croke park weren't the best last year either. If Mayo produce a similar performance on Sunday as those games then the Rossies will be in with a chance of causing an upset.
Is there any way both sides could lose?
Quote from: magpie seanie on July 26, 2017, 04:14:41 PM
Is there any way both sides could lose?
Any way both sides could win? ;D
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Galway train must be full with people heading home at end of arts festival.
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Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 26, 2017, 07:35:07 AM
Good man larryin. You have them hopping up and down like mad. On a more football related note what's the genuine feeling in Roscommon? Is there a bullish mood brewing thinking that the team will give Mayo the knockout blow; or do you think that there's still a possibility that Mayo might do the business once again, despite the tired legs and high mileage?
Are you asking them are they feeling bullish or sheepish?
;D ;D
Yeah, we'll shear them hoors alright.
If any of them pesky Rossies are entertaining grand notions they should remember that they were feeling the same way about Galway in last year's Connacht Final and look what happened to them?
Mayo by at least five!
Roscommon drew with Galway in that game using a very defensive approach
whats your point?
They did indeed and some of them here got a bit uppity as a result of that draw. Galway had their sums done for the replay but the usual suspects (here) were very cocky for the replay and look where it landed them.
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Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 26, 2017, 07:35:07 AM
Good man larryin. You have them hopping up and down like mad. On a more football related note what's the genuine feeling in Roscommon? Is there a bullish mood brewing thinking that the team will give Mayo the knockout blow; or do you think that there's still a possibility that Mayo might do the business once again, despite the tired legs and high mileage?
Are you asking them are they feeling bullish or sheepish?
;D ;D
Yeah, we'll shear them hoors alright.
If any of them pesky Rossies are entertaining grand notions they should remember that they were feeling the same way about Galway in last year's Connacht Final and look what happened to them?
Mayo by at least five!
Roscommon drew with Galway in that game using a very defensive approach
whats your point?
They did indeed and some of them here got a bit uppity as a result of that draw. Galway had their sums done for the replay but the usual suspects (here) were very cocky for the replay and look where it landed them.
On the evidence of this year, Galway's accounting isn't too great.
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If only the ref could have blown up then :'(
Jases the throwin the ball was something else!!
Silly Hoe over on MayoGAABlog really does ye lads no favours sometimes.
Quote from: Rossfan on July 26, 2017, 05:58:40 PM
If only the ref could have blown up then :'(
Jases the throwin the ball was something else!!
One of the best teams that I've seen that didn't win an All Ireland . Ye were in hard luck that day.
Quote from: Lar Naparka on July 26, 2017, 11:12:06 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 26, 2017, 05:58:40 PM
If only the ref could have blown up then :'(
Jases the throwin the ball was something else!!
One of the best teams that I've seen that didn't win an All Ireland . Ye were in hard luck that day.
And there came a moment when their best no longer was good enough too, Lar..
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Quote from: Rossfan on July 26, 2017, 05:58:40 PM
If only the ref could have blown up then :'(
Jases the throwin the ball was something else!!
One of the best teams that I've seen that didn't win an All Ireland . Ye were in hard luck that day.
Galway early 70s, Ros late 70s and Mayo recently were good enough to win at least one Sam
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Quote from: ballinaman on July 26, 2017, 07:40:03 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 26, 2017, 07:35:07 AM
Good man larryin. You have them hopping up and down like mad. On a more football related note what's the genuine feeling in Roscommon? Is there a bullish mood brewing thinking that the team will give Mayo the knockout blow; or do you think that there's still a possibility that Mayo might do the business once again, despite the tired legs and high mileage?
Are you asking them are they feeling bullish or sheepish?
;D ;D
Yeah, we'll shear them hoors alright.
If any of them pesky Rossies are entertaining grand notions they should remember that they were feeling the same way about Galway in last year's Connacht Final and look what happened to them?
Mayo by at least five!
Roscommon drew with Galway in that game using a very defensive approach
whats your point?
They did indeed and some of them here got a bit uppity as a result of that draw. Galway had their sums done for the replay but the usual suspects (here) were very cocky for the replay and look where it landed them.
don't know about that
they changed their approach for the replay and were cut open
think they had a lot of injuries too
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Quote from: manfromdelmonte on July 26, 2017, 02:37:14 PM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on July 26, 2017, 11:42:40 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on July 26, 2017, 07:40:03 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 26, 2017, 07:35:07 AM
Good man larryin. You have them hopping up and down like mad. On a more football related note what's the genuine feeling in Roscommon? Is there a bullish mood brewing thinking that the team will give Mayo the knockout blow; or do you think that there's still a possibility that Mayo might do the business once again, despite the tired legs and high mileage?
Are you asking them are they feeling bullish or sheepish?
;D ;D
Yeah, we'll shear them hoors alright.
If any of them pesky Rossies are entertaining grand notions they should remember that they were feeling the same way about Galway in last year's Connacht Final and look what happened to them?
Mayo by at least five!
Roscommon drew with Galway in that game using a very defensive approach
whats your point?
They did indeed and some of them here got a bit uppity as a result of that draw. Galway had their sums done for the replay but the usual suspects (here) were very cocky for the replay and look where it landed them.
don't know about that
they changed their approach for the replay and were cut open
think they had a lot of injuries too
Based on this year, we didn't have enough injuries was what the real problem was.
call your village, they're missing their idiot
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Quote from: magpie seanie on July 26, 2017, 04:14:41 PM
Is there any way both sides could lose?
Any way both sides could win? ;D
I think if the Rossies keep with in 10 point they could consider that a win
Mayoweather vs McRossie
The most eagerly awaited match up on MWR pay per view since the time the Pope came to Knock. Jaysus.
McRossie is new to championship fuball and remarked in a remarkable interview with Angelina Nugent that a few months ago he had fought in front of only 400 people at a small venue in Mohill in th'oul FBD , adding "this is my first time in Croke Park and on Sunday I'll rule Croke Park."
McRossie used to be very shy but it is believed he may have been hacked by a Syfbot.
Fight promoter John Prenty gave a presentation to journalists behind a golden table in his gated compound in Bekan.
"Every MMAYO guy is trying to fight in Croke Park and win the shaggin' All Ireland. A fight like this can only happen once in a lifetime. This is a very, very big event. It took more than just myself to make this fight happen, but to make a fight of this magnitude happen I had to be involved."They call that jealousy. It comes with the territory. This is big for both MMAYO and the boxing world. This is huge," Prenty said.
Mayoweather is one of the most experienced boxers. He has not been morally defeated in Croke Park in recent years. McRossie took up the sport in January. McRossie believes his youth (he is 15) will be an advantage.
Mayoweather is older than Andy Moran but vastly experienced.
In order to promote the fight a series of press conferences were held in Claremorris, Bonniconlon, French park and Knockcroghery.
I am honoured to be here, to give you this spectacle," McRossie said. "His little legs, his little core, his little head, I am going to knock him out inside four minutes, mark my words. I will do it for occupied Ballagh.
"I am a young, confident, happy man that has worked extremely hard for this."
Mayoweather was forced to reply :
You will wave that white flag. You are going out on your face or your back. Which way do you want to go? All you need to do is show up and I will do the rest."
Mike Tyson was asked for a quote in the Frenchpark presser : "McRossie put his dumb ass in a position where he's going to get knocked out'
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on July 27, 2017, 10:07:48 AM
call your village, they're missing their idiot
:D ;D :D ;D
Quote from: Syferus on July 26, 2017, 02:18:10 PM
Quote from: mrhardyannual on July 26, 2017, 02:15:33 PM
Despite the above, playing in Croke Park is a definite plus to Mayo. The pitch plays differently to others and familiarity with the effect of the stands on the wind etc only comes with experience. If it were not so we wouldnt see it as such an advantage to the Dubs.
It's an advantage to Dublin because they have 50k jackeens hounding the ref for every game, it's their home feckin ground.
Second biggest pitch in Ireland after Croke Park?
Dr Hyde Park..
Pitch with the most difficult wind?
Salthill..
Croke park barely makes the top 10 pitches in term of size.............its in the heads the problems with Croker are not in the legs
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on July 27, 2017, 10:07:48 AM
call your village, they're missing their idiot
You have some real issues. I'm sorry for you.
Any news on Tom Parsons?
Quote from: mrhardyannual on July 27, 2017, 10:49:38 PM
Any news on Tom Parsons?
I'd be very surprised to see him play any part.
I have a bad feeling about Sunday. McStay will want to prove a point with how he was treated by the Mayo CB added to the fact that this is a young Ros team who have nothing to lose. Mayo on the other hand just about alive. I said before the Cork match that we'll probably lose at quarter final stage or semi. Sadly I think it will be the former. Unfortunately it will be to Ros.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 28, 2017, 04:48:48 PM
I have a bad feeling about Sunday. McStay will want to prove a point with how he was treated by the Mayo CB added to the fact that this is a young Ros team who have nothing to lose. Mayo on the other hand just about alive. I said before the Cork match that we'll probably lose at quarter final stage or semi. Sadly I think it will be the former. Unfortunately it will be to Ros.
In other news, the sky is blue..
A little note that brings both counties together - a monument was unveiled today at Shannon's Cross outside Loughglynn to honour John Morley and Henry Bryne and mark the terrible events of 37 years ago. It's a lovely little monument and worth stopping off at for anyone passing by.
I have a feeling this game will end in a draw. Of course that feeling may be coming from the fact that Mayo drew two of their last 3 matches in normal time and lost to Galway by the narrowest of margins. If it ends in a draw will it be a replay or extra time. GAA.ie has no mention of extra time on their fixtures?
Quote from: Syferus on July 28, 2017, 04:53:15 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 28, 2017, 04:48:48 PM
I have a bad feeling about Sunday. McStay will want to prove a point with how he was treated by the Mayo CB added to the fact that this is a young Ros team who have nothing to lose. Mayo on the other hand just about alive. I said before the Cork match that we'll probably lose at quarter final stage or semi. Sadly I think it will be the former. Unfortunately it will be to Ros.
In other news, the sky is blue..
A little note that brings both counties together - a monument was unveiled today at Shannon's Cross outside Loughglynn to honour John Morley and Henry Bryne and mark the terrible events of 37 years ago. It's a lovely little monument and worth stopping off at for anyone passing by.
There is something in Castlerea as well
I remember when they were killed. It was such a shock
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 28, 2017, 06:14:26 PM
I have a feeling this game will end in a draw. Of course that feeling may be coming from the fact that Mayo drew two of their last 3 matches in normal time and lost to Galway by the narrowest of margins. If it ends in a draw will it be a replay or extra time. GAA.ie has no mention of extra time on their fixtures?
Extra time and if still level well probably be off to the wind tunnel
60K tickets sold so far I'm hearing
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 28, 2017, 04:48:48 PM
I have a bad feeling about Sunday. McStay will want to prove a point with how he was treated by the Mayo CB added to the fact that this is a young Ros team who have nothing to lose. Mayo on the other hand just about alive. I said before the Cork match that we'll probably lose at quarter final stage or semi. Sadly I think it will be the former. Unfortunately it will be to Ros.
Even a manager with no history with the opposition will have something to prove. Any Manager worth his salt always has something to prove. Some times it's better having no history! As it can muddy the water and real focus of the job in hand can be lost. So it's a mixed bag really! Insightful stuff Farr saying we'd probably lose at the Quater/Semi final stage. You've been singing that song for the last 10+ years and it's getting tiresome at this stage. I'll probably get f***ed out of it by the ''In'' gang for saying this to you!
Quote from: Syferus on July 28, 2017, 04:53:15 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 28, 2017, 04:48:48 PM
I have a bad feeling about Sunday. McStay will want to prove a point with how he was treated by the Mayo CB added to the fact that this is a young Ros team who have nothing to lose. Mayo on the other hand just about alive. I said before the Cork match that we'll probably lose at quarter final stage or semi. Sadly I think it will be the former. Unfortunately it will be to Ros.
In other news, the sky is blue..
A little note that brings both counties together - a monument was unveiled today at Shannon's Cross outside Loughglynn to honour John Morley and Henry Bryne and mark the terrible events of 37 years ago. It's a lovely little monument and worth stopping off at for anyone passing by.
Remember that like yesterday too. Had the pleasure of knowing John in his all too short life. A true great. May their souls rest in peace and enjoy a great game on Sunday from above.
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 28, 2017, 07:21:26 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 28, 2017, 04:48:48 PM
I have a bad feeling about Sunday. McStay will want to prove a point with how he was treated by the Mayo CB added to the fact that this is a young Ros team who have nothing to lose. Mayo on the other hand just about alive. I said before the Cork match that we'll probably lose at quarter final stage or semi. Sadly I think it will be the former. Unfortunately it will be to Ros.
Even a manager with no history with the opposition will have something to prove. Any Manager worth his salt always has something to prove. Some times it's better having no history! As it can muddy the water and real focus of the job in hand can be lost. So it's a mixed bag really! Insightful stuff Farr saying we'd probably lose at the Quater/Semi final stage. You've been singing that song for the last 10+ years and it's getting tiresome at this stage. I'll probably get f***ed out of it by the ''In'' gang for saying this to you!
*hits FTB a belt of a shoulder for squaring up to a Knockmore man
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 28, 2017, 07:21:26 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 28, 2017, 04:48:48 PM
I have a bad feeling about Sunday. McStay will want to prove a point with how he was treated by the Mayo CB added to the fact that this is a young Ros team who have nothing to lose. Mayo on the other hand just about alive. I said before the Cork match that we'll probably lose at quarter final stage or semi. Sadly I think it will be the former. Unfortunately it will be to Ros.
Even a manager with no history with the opposition will have something to prove. Any Manager worth his salt always has something to prove. Some times it's better having no history! As it can muddy the water and real focus of the job in hand can be lost. So it's a mixed bag really! Insightful stuff Farr saying we'd probably lose at the Quater/Semi final stage. You've been singing that song for the last 10+ years and it's getting tiresome at this stage. I'll probably get f***ed out of it by the ''In'' gang for saying this to you!
Brave man Bunker , they are born taking the head off people out there in bandit country!!
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 28, 2017, 04:48:48 PM
I have a bad feeling about Sunday. McStay will want to prove a point with how he was treated by the Mayo CB added to the fact that this is a young Ros team who have nothing to lose. Mayo on the other hand just about alive. I said before the Cork match that we'll probably lose at quarter final stage or semi. Sadly I think it will be the former. Unfortunately it will be to Ros.
I don't know where the pessimism is coming from Farr. I think that we are improving each game. 55 mins last Saturday was as good as I've seen for a long time. Changes/Complacency played a huge part in Cork comeback. Saying that, when the momentum of a game turns against you it is nearly impossible to stop it. Mayo did last week. Roscommon are improving but I doubt if they have reached semi-final standard yet. I expect a good game and a Mayo win.
Quote from: mrhardyannual on July 28, 2017, 09:35:44 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 28, 2017, 04:48:48 PM
I have a bad feeling about Sunday. McStay will want to prove a point with how he was treated by the Mayo CB added to the fact that this is a young Ros team who have nothing to lose. Mayo on the other hand just about alive. I said before the Cork match that we'll probably lose at quarter final stage or semi. Sadly I think it will be the former. Unfortunately it will be to Ros.
I don't know where the pessimism is coming from Farr. I think that we are improving each game. 55 mins last Saturday was as good as I've seen for a long time. Changes/Complacency played a huge part in Cork comeback. Saying that, when the momentum of a game turns against you it is nearly impossible to stop it. Mayo did last week. Roscommon are improving but I doubt if they have reached semi-final standard yet. I expect a good game and a Mayo win.
I thought Mayo were incredibly ropey through the Cork match, especially when you consider how poor Corks defence was, and has been for quite some time. If Mayo aren't a lot better than that performance they will lose on Sunday.
Quote from: Syferus on July 28, 2017, 04:53:15 PM
A little note that brings both counties together - a monument was unveiled today at Shannon's Cross outside Loughglynn to honour John Morley and Henry Bryne and mark the terrible events of 37 years ago. It's a lovely little monument and worth stopping off at for anyone passing by.
(https://scontent-cdt1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/20294206_1528514397171315_119477155527278214_n.jpg?oh=a25ea2a24af2dd6eb0bc367e0640df39&oe=5A0845F9)
Quote from: Syferus on July 28, 2017, 09:46:33 PM
Quote from: mrhardyannual on July 28, 2017, 09:35:44 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 28, 2017, 04:48:48 PM
I have a bad feeling about Sunday. McStay will want to prove a point with how he was treated by the Mayo CB added to the fact that this is a young Ros team who have nothing to lose. Mayo on the other hand just about alive. I said before the Cork match that we'll probably lose at quarter final stage or semi. Sadly I think it will be the former. Unfortunately it will be to Ros.
I don't know where the pessimism is coming from Farr. I think that we are improving each game. 55 mins last Saturday was as good as I've seen for a long time. Changes/Complacency played a huge part in Cork comeback. Saying that, when the momentum of a game turns against you it is nearly impossible to stop it. Mayo did last week. Roscommon are improving but I doubt if they have reached semi-final standard yet. I expect a good game and a Mayo win.
I thought Mayo were incredibly ropey through the Cork match, especially when you consider how poor Corks defence was, and has been for quite some time. If Mayo aren't a lot better than that performance they will lose on Sunday.
Perceptions differ obviously but it is still a big leap for Roscommon, on the back of one result against Galway, to take out a top-four side.
Team named
David Clarke (Ballina Stephenites)
Brendan Harrison (Aghamore)
Ger Cafferkey (Ballina Stephenites)
Keith Higgins (Ballyhaunis)
Lee Keegan (Westport)
Chris Barrett (Belmullet)
Colm Boyle (Davitts)
Seamus O'Shea (Breaffy)
Tom Parsons (Charlestown)
Kevin McLoughlin (Knockmore)
Aidan O'Shea (Breaffy)
Diarmuid O'Connor (Ballintubber)
Conor Loftus (Crossmolina)
Cillian O'Connor (Ballintubber, captain)
Andy Moran (Ballaghaderreen)
From the sounds of things, a dummy team. Rochford ain't fooling anyone. The differing approaches to announcing the teams is interesting in itself.
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 28, 2017, 09:52:36 PM
Quote from: Syferus on July 28, 2017, 04:53:15 PM
A little note that brings both counties together - a monument was unveiled today at Shannon's Cross outside Loughglynn to honour John Morley and Henry Bryne and mark the terrible events of 37 years ago. It's a lovely little monument and worth stopping off at for anyone passing by.
(https://scontent-cdt1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/20294206_1528514397171315_119477155527278214_n.jpg?oh=a25ea2a24af2dd6eb0bc367e0640df39&oe=5A0845F9)
A fitting tribute to one of Mayo's finest. Always thought that not playing him in 1975 was the biggest selection error ever (including our change of goalkeeper last year).
I agree we are improving. The Cork game was a huge step forward. McStay is already shitting himself with his pathetic comments in the papers about not having a game for so long. If was the fresher Cork team that nearly did for us the last day.
Hopefully Rochford won't be as complacent on the line on Sunday with the subs and get the lads to put the foot on the throat this time.
It's time also for our lads to drop those GPS bras I'd say that's why Barrett was hauled ashore.
Anyhow we are back in familiar territory against a team that just got relegated and that Galway barely left a hand on.
I can see this as a 12 to 15 point win.
Quote from: highorlow on July 28, 2017, 10:18:05 PM
I agree we are improving. The Cork game was a huge step forward. McStay is already shitting himself with his pathetic comments in the papers about not having a game for so long. If was the fresher Cork team that nearly did for us the last day.
Hopefully Rochford won't be as complacent on the line on Sunday with the subs and get the lads to put the foot on the throat this time.
It's time also for our lads to drop those GPS bras I'd say that's why Barrett was hauled ashore.
Anyhow we are back in familiar territory against a team that just got relegated and that Galway barely left a hand on.
I can see this as a 12 to 15 point win.
McStay has absolutely nothing to lose on Sunday, Rochford on the other hand..
Quote from: mrhardyannual on July 27, 2017, 10:49:38 PM
Any news on Tom Parsons?
Named to start. A bit of mind games going on?
Quote from: Syferus on July 28, 2017, 10:06:03 PM
From the sounds of things, a dummy team. Rochford ain't fooling anyone. The differing approaches to announcing the teams is interesting in itself.
Ah, in the Modern era team sheets mean little or nothing. They are there to keep the program printers happy! And for the fading Newspapers to make stories up about! In time players will have a squad number and the team will be named before throw in.
Quote from: Syferus on July 28, 2017, 10:20:10 PM
Quote from: highorlow on July 28, 2017, 10:18:05 PM
I agree we are improving. The Cork game was a huge step forward. McStay is already shitting himself with his pathetic comments in the papers about not having a game for so long. If was the fresher Cork team that nearly did for us the last day.
Hopefully Rochford won't be as complacent on the line on Sunday with the subs and get the lads to put the foot on the throat this time.
It's time also for our lads to drop those GPS bras I'd say that's why Barrett was hauled ashore.
Anyhow we are back in familiar territory against a team that just got relegated and that Galway barely left a hand on.
I can see this as a 12 to 15 point win.
McStay has absolutely nothing to lose on Sunday, Rochford on the other hand..
True, anything other than a hammering and it will have been a successful season for him
If the Roskies lose by 12 to 15 points it will be back to square 1 for ye.
The Connacht title will be long forgotten.
McStay is getting his excuses in early, poor leadership.
He also mentioned our physicality to remind the ref.
Wasn't he better to keep his trap shut?
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 28, 2017, 10:24:51 PM
Quote from: Syferus on July 28, 2017, 10:06:03 PM
From the sounds of things, a dummy team. Rochford ain't fooling anyone. The differing approaches to announcing the teams is interesting in itself.
Ah, in the Modern era team sheets mean little or nothing. They are there to keep the program printers happy! And for the fading Newspapers to make stories up about! In time players will have a squad number and the team will be named before throw in.
Apart from Davy Murray's stomach bug in the lead up to the Leitrim game and Compton's injury in training before the Galway game our week-in-advance team sheets have been totally accurate. He's named his team and it's up to the opposition to try and stop them, to me that shows quite a bit f confidence and forethought. McStay doesn't fùck about with announcing dummy teams or nonsense like that. He doesn't play the Rochy/Emmo/Smiling Jim media game of dull platitudes either.
There's a lot to like about how McStay handles himself, things other managers might do well to take note of. There's a reason the panel respects him as much as they do.
There's going to be a lot of soul-searching in Mayo if a McStay is the one who closes this chapter of Mayo football. A boxer never sees the end coming until it's too late.
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 28, 2017, 07:21:26 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 28, 2017, 04:48:48 PM
I have a bad feeling about Sunday. McStay will want to prove a point with how he was treated by the Mayo CB added to the fact that this is a young Ros team who have nothing to lose. Mayo on the other hand just about alive. I said before the Cork match that we'll probably lose at quarter final stage or semi. Sadly I think it will be the former. Unfortunately it will be to Ros.
Even a manager with no history with the opposition will have something to prove. Any Manager worth his salt always has something to prove. Some times it's better having no history! As it can muddy the water and real focus of the job in hand can be lost. So it's a mixed bag really! Insightful stuff Farr saying we'd probably lose at the Quater/Semi final stage. You've been singing that song for the last 10+ years and it's getting tiresome at this stage. I'll probably get f***ed out of it by the ''In'' gang for saying this to you!
Ah, relax will ya?? ;D
It seems to me that every time Farr declares that we are well and truly fecked, the exact opposite happens! So I'm feeling a lot more confident after reading this.
Quote from: highorlow on July 28, 2017, 10:27:02 PM
If the Roskies lose by 12 to 15 points it will be back to square 1 for ye.
The Connacht title will be long forgotten.
McStay is getting his excuses in early, poor leadership.
He also mentioned our physicality to remind the ref.
Wasn't he better to keep his trap shut?
In fairness McStay is very calculated in what he says. There is rarely a wandering from the script moment (unlike the brother in law - who seems to have been gagged this year).
I do believe physicality and experience will have major baring on this game and by logic it should be a close game with Mayo winning it by a few points. Connacht titles are forgotten as soon as they are won in Mayo but i don't think regardless of the result/performance on Sunday will it be forgotten in Roscommon for a long time.
If Roscommon are to beat by a large margin i think that would say more about Roscommons lack of preparation and not focused on the game than anything else. Cork,Derry are at a lower level than Roscommon IMO and both brought Mayo to extra time and Galway who were beaten by 9pts by Roscommon were able to beat Mayo.
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 28, 2017, 10:44:07 PM
Quote from: highorlow on July 28, 2017, 10:27:02 PM
If the Roskies lose by 12 to 15 points it will be back to square 1 for ye.
The Connacht title will be long forgotten.
McStay is getting his excuses in early, poor leadership.
He also mentioned our physicality to remind the ref.
Wasn't he better to keep his trap shut?
In fairness McStay is very calculated in what he says. There is rarely a wandering from the script moment (unlike the brother in law - who seems to have been gagged this year).
A comment by McHale from the arse end of May seems to have riled up Silly Hoe's horde today. Says it all. At this stage I think Liam McHale is more respected in Roscommon than Mayo. It's sad to see as he's a good man, coach and was a truly excellent player for his county.
Mayo have kept fools like Maughan on the inside of the bubble but decided to attack McHale. I don't understand that logic at all. It'd be like us turning on Karol Mannion or Seanie Mac.
Quote from: Syferus on July 28, 2017, 10:52:18 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 28, 2017, 10:44:07 PM
Quote from: highorlow on July 28, 2017, 10:27:02 PM
If the Roskies lose by 12 to 15 points it will be back to square 1 for ye.
The Connacht title will be long forgotten.
McStay is getting his excuses in early, poor leadership.
He also mentioned our physicality to remind the ref.
Wasn't he better to keep his trap shut?
In fairness McStay is very calculated in what he says. There is rarely a wandering from the script moment (unlike the brother in law - who seems to have been gagged this year).
A comment by McHale from the arse end of May seems to have riled up Silly Hoe's horde today. Says it all. At this stage I think Liam McHale is more respected in Roscommon than Mayo. It's sad to see as he's a good man, coach and was a truly excellent player for his county.
Mayo have kept fools like Maughan on the inside of the bubble but decided to attack McHale. I don't understand that logic at all. It'd be like us turning on Karol Mannion or Seanie Mac.
McHale should have held his station (Like McStay did) after the Mayo job fiasco. It is often better to say nothing as many people can misinterpret your pain!
I've no problem with McStay or McHale and neither owes anything to Mayo. Shame that all these threads descend into attacks on managers and players who give us such entertainment week in, week out. No chance that we could dispense with this nonsense?
Anyone talking up Ross chances here is either spoofing or knows nothing.
Fair enough we lost to Galway but we would have won that by a comfortable 5 points with 15 men on the field.
The Ross result against Galway was a freak event but at the same time not unexpected given the flakey cockiness of the Galway crowd and what happened to them last year.
We will have this won by the 60th minute unless something bizarre happens like we get 2 men sent off.
p.s No attack here on McStay. I was just pointing out his comments on the papers today. Stating the facts. I'm not sure why he felt the need to say anything about us. Maybe he'd be better talking up his own lads and focusing on some positives. This crack in the past from managers comes across as self serving.
Quote from: Syferus on July 28, 2017, 10:35:59 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 28, 2017, 10:24:51 PM
Quote from: Syferus on July 28, 2017, 10:06:03 PM
From the sounds of things, a dummy team. Rochford ain't fooling anyone. The differing approaches to announcing the teams is interesting in itself.
Ah, in the Modern era team sheets mean little or nothing. They are there to keep the program printers happy! And for the fading Newspapers to make stories up about! In time players will have a squad number and the team will be named before throw in.
Apart from Davy Murray's stomach bug in the lead up to the Leitrim game and Compton's injury in training before the Galway game our week-in-advance team sheets have been totally accurate. He's named his team and it's up to the opposition to try and stop them, to me that shows quite a bit f confidence and forethought. McStay doesn't fùck about with announcing dummy teams or nonsense like that. He doesn't play the Rochy/Emmo/Smiling Jim media game of dull platitudes either.
There's a lot to like about how McStay handles himself, things other managers might do well to take note of. There's a reason the panel respects him as much as they do.
There's going to be a lot of soul-searching in Mayo if a McStay is the one who closes this chapter of Mayo football. A boxer never sees the end coming until it's too late.
Soul-searching. Not among the ordinary folk there wont be. McStay was blackguarded (twice) by the Mayo executive but the ordinary fan had nothing to do with that intrigue. It might be different in other parts of the county but there is great respect for Batman and Robin where I come from and that would only increase if they pull the rug from under Mayo on Sunday.
Will that happen? I wouldn t be a bit surprised. Ros. have as good a cut at it as Derry, Clare or Cork did. And if Ros. do finish us - well it may as well be them as anybody else. When you're finished its the finishing that counts not who puts you on your hole. Finished off by Ros. would be no different now than finished by Kerry, Dublin or Tyrone.
Quote from: macdanger2 on July 28, 2017, 10:04:51 PM
Team named
David Clarke (Ballina Stephenites)
Brendan Harrison (Aghamore)
Ger Cafferkey (Ballina Stephenites)
Keith Higgins (Ballyhaunis)
Lee Keegan (Westport)
Chris Barrett (Belmullet)
Colm Boyle (Davitts)
Seamus O'Shea (Breaffy)
Tom Parsons (Charlestown)
Kevin McLoughlin (Knockmore)
Aidan O'Shea (Breaffy)
Diarmuid O'Connor (Ballintubber)
Conor Loftus (Crossmolina)
Cillian O'Connor (Ballintubber, captain)
Andy Moran (Ballaghaderreen)
Loftus wont start - Doherty will.
Parsons wont play.
Durcan probably will start.
I wouldn t be surprised if Caff. starts again even though he is all at sea last while.
Maybe DOC goes midfield for this now.
Quote from: moysider on July 28, 2017, 11:37:19 PM
Quote from: Syferus on July 28, 2017, 10:35:59 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 28, 2017, 10:24:51 PM
Quote from: Syferus on July 28, 2017, 10:06:03 PM
From the sounds of things, a dummy team. Rochford ain't fooling anyone. The differing approaches to announcing the teams is interesting in itself.
Ah, in the Modern era team sheets mean little or nothing. They are there to keep the program printers happy! And for the fading Newspapers to make stories up about! In time players will have a squad number and the team will be named before throw in.
Apart from Davy Murray's stomach bug in the lead up to the Leitrim game and Compton's injury in training before the Galway game our week-in-advance team sheets have been totally accurate. He's named his team and it's up to the opposition to try and stop them, to me that shows quite a bit f confidence and forethought. McStay doesn't fùck about with announcing dummy teams or nonsense like that. He doesn't play the Rochy/Emmo/Smiling Jim media game of dull platitudes either.
There's a lot to like about how McStay handles himself, things other managers might do well to take note of. There's a reason the panel respects him as much as they do.
There's going to be a lot of soul-searching in Mayo if a McStay is the one who closes this chapter of Mayo football. A boxer never sees the end coming until it's too late.
Soul-searching. Not among the ordinary folk there wont be. McStay was blackguarded (twice) by the Mayo executive but the ordinary fan had nothing to do with that intrigue. It might be different in other parts of the county but there is great respect for Batman and Robin where I come from and that would only increase if they pull the rug from under Mayo on Sunday.
Will that happen? I wouldn t be a bit surprised. Ros. have as good a cut at it as Derry, Clare or Cork did. And if Ros. do finish us - well it may as well be them as anybody else. When you're finished its the finishing that counts not who puts you on your hole. Finished off by Ros. would be no different now than finished by Kerry, Dublin or Tyrone.
It should be firstly noted that you come from the brothers' area of the woods. The abuse they're getting on sites like Mayo Banter, Silly Hoe's blog and boards.ie/Hogan Stand is there for all to see.
People are still trying to convince themselves overlooking them was the right choice when each passing year makes it seem like a miss every bit as big as Horan putting Kevin Keane on Murphy, subbing out Alan Freeman or Rochford starting Hennelly last year. Frankly, I'm just happy the people in my county finally see we have a decent management and that there's no chance of any autumn amateur dramatics this year.
Losing to Roscommon would be no different? The vitriol spewing from the usual excitable Mayo supporters this week indicate the opposite. It's one thing to die fighting the giants of the sport, but to do it on 'your' stage against the lowly neighbours? That will hurt and no amount of spin by the most biased supporters will change that. I can tell you it very much matters to the Mayo Rossies in Ballagh that we're put in our place on Sunday. They care because there's something more on the line than just passage to an AISF. All that pride and confidence accumulated from the last 16 years can be wiped out in an instant on Sunday.
Roscommon can deal with losing to Mayo. I'm not sure the opposite is true.
Ah now Syferus that's not nice calling the webmaster of the blog that. He puts a lot of work into that site and it must be a full time job for him moderating comments. We should all be like the two barbers Paddy Joe and John Regan on Midwest (on Facebook live the other night). Did any of ye see that - have a look at that and you won't regret it. That's what real fan banter should be like, great stories and respect for the opposition. Paddy Joe still scoring the last and first goal of the old and new millennia never gets old.
Quote from: weareros on July 29, 2017, 01:41:42 AM
Ah now Syferus that's not nice calling the webmaster of the blog that. He puts a lot of work into that site and it must be a full time job for him moderating comments. We should all be like the two barbers Paddy Joe and John Regan on Midwest (on Facebook live the other night). Did any of ye see that - have a look at that and you won't regret it. That's what real fan banter should be like, great stories and respect for the opposition. Paddy Joe still scoring the last and first goal of the old and new millennia never gets old.
The keyboard kept autocorrecting it because it doesn't accept Willie as a real word. I don't care enough to correct it. And if you think he does much moderation you'd be severely mistaken. If he did that much he might have some respect within and outside of his own county. His blog posts help incite the worst elements of GAA support.
This is one of the few places online where that brand of soccer-style GAA support hasn't spread. One of the main Mayo supporter pages is that retched Banter page that manages to be even worse than MayoGAABlog - when you compare it to the most popular independent Roscommon supporter page - Roscommon GAA Legends - there's a stark contrast in tone and levels of respect.
I don't think most Mayo supporters are like the dregs on those places but it's fair to say Mayo have an image problem online. I'd like to see something more positive emerging than things that feed on negativity.
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Quote from: Syferus on July 28, 2017, 10:06:03 PM
From the sounds of things, a dummy team. Rochford ain't fooling anyone. The differing approaches to announcing the teams is interesting in itself.
Ah, in the Modern era team sheets mean little or nothing. They are there to keep the program printers happy! And for the fading Newspapers to make stories up about! In time players will have a squad number and the team will be named before throw in.
Apart from Davy Murray's stomach bug in the lead up to the Leitrim game and Compton's injury in training before the Galway game our week-in-advance team sheets have been totally accurate. He's named his team and it's up to the opposition to try and stop them, to me that shows quite a bit f confidence and forethought. McStay doesn't fùck about with announcing dummy teams or nonsense like that. He doesn't play the Rochy/Emmo/Smiling Jim media game of dull platitudes either.
There's a lot to like about how McStay handles himself, things other managers might do well to take note of. There's a reason the panel respects him as much as they do.
There's going to be a lot of soul-searching in Mayo if a McStay is the one who closes this chapter of Mayo football. A boxer never sees the end coming until it's too late.
Soul-searching. Not among the ordinary folk there wont be. McStay was blackguarded (twice) by the Mayo executive but the ordinary fan had nothing to do with that intrigue. It might be different in other parts of the county but there is great respect for Batman and Robin where I come from and that would only increase if they pull the rug from under Mayo on Sunday.
Will that happen? I wouldn t be a bit surprised. Ros. have as good a cut at it as Derry, Clare or Cork did. And if Ros. do finish us - well it may as well be them as anybody else. When you're finished its the finishing that counts not who puts you on your hole. Finished off by Ros. would be no different now than finished by Kerry, Dublin or Tyrone.
It should be firstly noted that you come from the brothers' area of the woods. The abuse they're getting on sites like Mayo Banter, Silly Hoe's blog and boards.ie/Hogan Stand is there for all to see.
People are still trying to convince themselves overlooking them was the right choice when each passing year makes it seem like a miss every bit as big as Horan putting Kevin Keane on Murphy, subbing out Alan Freeman or Rochford starting Hennelly last year. Frankly, I'm just happy the people in my county finally see we have a decent management and that there's no chance of any autumn amateur dramatics this year.
Losing to Roscommon would be no different? The vitriol spewing from the usual excitable Mayo supporters this week indicate the opposite. It's one thing to die fighting the giants of the sport, but to do it on 'your' stage against the lowly neighbours? That will hurt and no amount of spin by the most biased supporters will change that. I can tell you it very much matters to the Mayo Rossies in Ballagh that we're put in our place on Sunday. They care because there's something more on the line than just passage to an AISF. All that pride and confidence accumulated from the last 16 years can be wiped out in an instant on Sunday.
Roscommon can deal with losing to Mayo. I'm not sure the opposite is true.
Mayo Banter, Silly Hoe's blog! WTF is that.
Look Sy. Losing or winning next Sunday for either team doesn't mean an awful lot unless a person has the mind of a newt. Whoever wins have to bring a realistic game into the semi. The loser slinks away and regroups. As a Mayo man I've accepted losing to Roscommon in the past + Sligo + Galway+ Leitrim + Fermanagh + Longford + Westmeath etc. That's sport. Anyway why would you bother looking at those banter's and blogs? Silly stuff. If Mayo lose to Ros, I can deal with it, no problem. It will be easier to deal with than the loses we have had to likes of Meath, Cork, Kerry and Dublin in finals and semis down the years. Roscommon should have a different mindset also going forward. Beating Mayo is not the be all. Loads of teams beat Mayo.
Syferus,
Is Roscommon legends gaa bigger than the stolen sheep place??
I don't believe it will be any bigger an issue for a mayo player or supporter losing to us or anyone else. Their season is over whenever beaten
Even the Saturday morning Westport train is packed with people heading for the match. There was a big queue at the ticket machine when I landed in Castlerea. There's going to be some amount of Roscommon and Mayo people in Dublin tomorrow.
Hard to compare a FB page wth a message board Orchard, SS has been around for a long time in one form or another.
Really good article by the always excellent Keith Duggan in the Times today. I'll paste it if I can.
Keith Duggan:
QuoteThe true gems of Irish pub culture, like Magan's of Killashee or The Three Jolly Pigeons in Tang, are inevitably the most obscure and do little shouting about themselves.
The football used in 1943 and '44 featured in Murray's window as part of an unbeatable display of lavishness during the Emergency, flanking the Sam Maguire with another football and two primrose and blue shirts as a backdrop
Murray's of Knockcroghery belongs to that first rank and it's a house in which the football is always the star attraction. It hangs suspended from a thick chain attached to the dark wooden roof, directly over the bar counter as if waiting to be claimed by some midfielder. The pub is on the main street and has been the still point of Knockcroghery's turning world for as long as the Republic's been around.
The football, used in the All-Ireland final of 1944, has served its time too. When Roscommon were back to back All-Ireland champions in 1943 and '44, it featured in Murray's window as part of an unbeatable display of lavishness during the Emergency, flanking the Sam Maguire with another football and two primrose and blue shirts as a backdrop. The big cup moved on. The ball stayed.
Fire broke out
Time has blackened it and it definitely wouldn't survive another football match. It should have been lost altogether decades ago: a fire broke late one night in 1990, destroying half the bar counter and a lot of the memorabilia in the main room. The ball was attached to a simple piece of string then and it soon fell into the flames.
People came from their houses and nearby and tried their best to calm the fire and a crowd had gathered by the time one man emerged through the smoke billowing through the front door shouting in triumph, "I've got the ball! I've got the bloody ball."
Jimmy Murray, dashing half forward of Roscommon '43/'44 and proprietor of the establishment offered a succinct piece of advice. "Forget the ball and quench the bloody shop."
Eight Murray boys grew up in the house. Four won All-Irelands. Here's all you need to know about Jimmy Murray: when he was introduced late in his life to John McGahern, the Leitrim writer politely requested his autograph. You have to imagine that this was a first and last. Murray died in 2007 and had been one of the last survivors of that garlanded second World War team – McQuillan, Carlos, Keenan, Gibbons.
The football has survived them all. One on level, it's just a curio: a terrific piece of pub memorabilia. But it's also physical proof and evidence of the 24 months that Roscommon ruled the football landscape. You stand in that pub, in this anxious age of Trump and of Facebook, and then you look at the football and then you think of the players of Roscommon and Kerry chasing it about Croke Park 80 years ago and 80,000 people glued to it.
Defiant - Who knows how the Rossies spirited it out of the stadium because leather footballs were a precious commodity in those times. There is something defiant about the football in Murray's pub. It's much like the wishbones hanging from the lights in McSorley's in Lower Manhattan, left by union soldiers before they headed south to fight the civil war and to be collected upon their return. Still there post 9/11. It's part of the pub lore until you pause to think of the actual truth behind it. And then you get the shivers. It's a way of saying: this is real. Don't forget this happened.
Murray's football has that kind of power. Don't forget we were All-Ireland champions. Back to back. Not Kerry. Not anyone else. Us. Roscommon.
One of Roscommon's chief attractions as a football county is that it is impossible to categorise. It must, necessarily, labour in the shadow of Mayo of Galway because of population alone. And yet it has claimed enough Connacht titles (23) to always merit respect and to provoke a bitter rivalry with Mayo. The Rossies insist on thinking of themselves as equals, which gets under the craw of the western aristocracy. Jimmy Murray probably summed the place up best in this newspaper back in 2006: "People here were stone-cracked mad on the football then and they are today too."
He said this in praise, not criticism. And the truth was in full evidence this summer. "A historic day," came the refrain of Willie Hegarty, the bard of Shannonside radio, after he watched Roscommon ransack Galway in Pearse Stadium. Most people know that Hegarty's live commentaries are among the very best things about the contemporary GAA. They are incomparable. Here he is describing Brian Stack's goal which sunk Galway in the second half.
An Aer Lingus plane - "The St Brendan's player took off like an Aer Lingus plane. He took off. He left the tarmac. He kept going. He kept going. He pulled the trigger. He cut loose."
It's true that if any Aer Lingus plane you were on started manoeuvres of that nature, you'd soon be reaching into the overhead luggage compartment for the bottle of duty free gin. But if you want to understand the electrifying thrill that Rossies experience when they have their day against their neighbours, you need only turn the radio dial on Sunday.
Because Roscommon playing Mayo in Croke Park promises to one of the occasions of the championship. The legions of Mayo football devotees must be incredibly tetchy about this one. Already, Mayo's campaign has a sort of battle-weary and epic tint about it. Kerry have reached the quarter-finals having hardly had to launder their playing kit.
Mayo football people are already like something out of the darker ravages of a Tom Waits ballad and they are still a long way from home. The idea of playing Roscommon with their tails up; Roscommon in a Connacht champions state of mind is not a comforting one.
And then, most troubling of all for Mayo, is the Kevin McStay factor. The officer on the line. If McStay's tenure in Roscommon represents anything, it's a triumph for doing the right thing. You don't have to spend very long in McStay's company to get that he's as decent as they come.
Stickler - Opinionated, yes, and a stickler for doing things his way and kind of fearless in that military way. Along with his compadre and brother-in-law Liam McHale, his coaching potential was treated by the Mayo executive in a way that always seemed curiously dismissive. He was passed over for the main job on several occasions, sometimes brusquely.
He shrugged, did his thing, guiding St Brigid's to an All-Ireland club title in 2013 before remaining calm and true to himself in the face of two turbulent years in Roscommon, when he was subjected to petty gripes about his worth. Everyone knows about McHale's athletic pedigree, but people forget about McStay as ball-player in the late 1980s: a flyer and a trickster, tough and absurdly light in an age when big-boned men ruled the prairies. He has lived and bled Mayo. Now he must coach against his home county and you can bet he will do this forensically.
And if Roscommon happen to win on Sunday, there'll be no grandstanding from McStay. Privately, it might hurt him a little to see his home county done down again. But you can bet he will win it or lose it with grace.
And if Roscommon do win, then, yes, the lights will go out across Mayo for the night in all kinds of ways. And it will be so funereal quiet that they'll be able to hear the whooping from across the border. On the television they'll remark that it's great to see Roscommon back without understanding that in Roscommon minds, they never went away.
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/when-roscommon-were-kings-of-football-1.3170362?mode=amp
Quote from: Syferus on July 29, 2017, 11:09:06 AM
Keith Duggan:
QuoteThe true gems of Irish pub culture, like Magan's of Killashee or The Three Jolly Pigeons in Tang, are inevitably the most obscure and do little shouting about themselves.
The football used in 1943 and '44 featured in Murray's window as part of an unbeatable display of lavishness during the Emergency, flanking the Sam Maguire with another football and two primrose and blue shirts as a backdrop
Murray's of Knockcroghery belongs to that first rank and it's a house in which the football is always the star attraction. It hangs suspended from a thick chain attached to the dark wooden roof, directly over the bar counter as if waiting to be claimed by some midfielder. The pub is on the main street and has been the still point of Knockcroghery's turning world for as long as the Republic's been around.
The football, used in the All-Ireland final of 1944, has served its time too. When Roscommon were back to back All-Ireland champions in 1943 and '44, it featured in Murray's window as part of an unbeatable display of lavishness during the Emergency, flanking the Sam Maguire with another football and two primrose and blue shirts as a backdrop. The big cup moved on. The ball stayed.
Fire broke out
Time has blackened it and it definitely wouldn't survive another football match. It should have been lost altogether decades ago: a fire broke late one night in 1990, destroying half the bar counter and a lot of the memorabilia in the main room. The ball was attached to a simple piece of string then and it soon fell into the flames.
People came from their houses and nearby and tried their best to calm the fire and a crowd had gathered by the time one man emerged through the smoke billowing through the front door shouting in triumph, "I've got the ball! I've got the bloody ball."
Jimmy Murray, dashing half forward of Roscommon '43/'44 and proprietor of the establishment offered a succinct piece of advice. "Forget the ball and quench the bloody shop."
Eight Murray boys grew up in the house. Four won All-Irelands. Here's all you need to know about Jimmy Murray: when he was introduced late in his life to John McGahern, the Leitrim writer politely requested his autograph. You have to imagine that this was a first and last. Murray died in 2007 and had been one of the last survivors of that garlanded second World War team – McQuillan, Carlos, Keenan, Gibbons.
The football has survived them all. One on level, it's just a curio: a terrific piece of pub memorabilia. But it's also physical proof and evidence of the 24 months that Roscommon ruled the football landscape. You stand in that pub, in this anxious age of Trump and of Facebook, and then you look at the football and then you think of the players of Roscommon and Kerry chasing it about Croke Park 80 years ago and 80,000 people glued to it.
Defiant - Who knows how the Rossies spirited it out of the stadium because leather footballs were a precious commodity in those times. There is something defiant about the football in Murray's pub. It's much like the wishbones hanging from the lights in McSorley's in Lower Manhattan, left by union soldiers before they headed south to fight the civil war and to be collected upon their return. Still there post 9/11. It's part of the pub lore until you pause to think of the actual truth behind it. And then you get the shivers. It's a way of saying: this is real. Don't forget this happened.
Murray's football has that kind of power. Don't forget we were All-Ireland champions. Back to back. Not Kerry. Not anyone else. Us. Roscommon.
One of Roscommon's chief attractions as a football county is that it is impossible to categorise. It must, necessarily, labour in the shadow of Mayo of Galway because of population alone. And yet it has claimed enough Connacht titles (23) to always merit respect and to provoke a bitter rivalry with Mayo. The Rossies insist on thinking of themselves as equals, which gets under the craw of the western aristocracy. Jimmy Murray probably summed the place up best in this newspaper back in 2006: "People here were stone-cracked mad on the football then and they are today too."
He said this in praise, not criticism. And the truth was in full evidence this summer. "A historic day," came the refrain of Willie Hegarty, the bard of Shannonside radio, after he watched Roscommon ransack Galway in Pearse Stadium. Most people know that Hegarty's live commentaries are among the very best things about the contemporary GAA. They are incomparable. Here he is describing Brian Stack's goal which sunk Galway in the second half.
An Aer Lingus plane - "The St Brendan's player took off like an Aer Lingus plane. He took off. He left the tarmac. He kept going. He kept going. He pulled the trigger. He cut loose."
It's true that if any Aer Lingus plane you were on started manoeuvres of that nature, you'd soon be reaching into the overhead luggage compartment for the bottle of duty free gin. But if you want to understand the electrifying thrill that Rossies experience when they have their day against their neighbours, you need only turn the radio dial on Sunday.
Because Roscommon playing Mayo in Croke Park promises to one of the occasions of the championship. The legions of Mayo football devotees must be incredibly tetchy about this one. Already, Mayo's campaign has a sort of battle-weary and epic tint about it. Kerry have reached the quarter-finals having hardly had to launder their playing kit.
Mayo football people are already like something out of the darker ravages of a Tom Waits ballad and they are still a long way from home. The idea of playing Roscommon with their tails up; Roscommon in a Connacht champions state of mind is not a comforting one.
And then, most troubling of all for Mayo, is the Kevin McStay factor. The officer on the line. If McStay's tenure in Roscommon represents anything, it's a triumph for doing the right thing. You don't have to spend very long in McStay's company to get that he's as decent as they come.
Stickler - Opinionated, yes, and a stickler for doing things his way and kind of fearless in that military way. Along with his compadre and brother-in-law Liam McHale, his coaching potential was treated by the Mayo executive in a way that always seemed curiously dismissive. He was passed over for the main job on several occasions, sometimes brusquely.
He shrugged, did his thing, guiding St Brigid's to an All-Ireland club title in 2013 before remaining calm and true to himself in the face of two turbulent years in Roscommon, when he was subjected to petty gripes about his worth. Everyone knows about McHale's athletic pedigree, but people forget about McStay as ball-player in the late 1980s: a flyer and a trickster, tough and absurdly light in an age when big-boned men ruled the prairies. He has lived and bled Mayo. Now he must coach against his home county and you can bet he will do this forensically.
And if Roscommon happen to win on Sunday, there'll be no grandstanding from McStay. Privately, it might hurt him a little to see his home county done down again. But you can bet he will win it or lose it with grace.
And if Roscommon do win, then, yes, the lights will go out across Mayo for the night in all kinds of ways. And it will be so funereal quiet that they'll be able to hear the whooping from across the border. On the television they'll remark that it's great to see Roscommon back without understanding that in Roscommon minds, they never went away.
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/when-roscommon-were-kings-of-football-1.3170362?mode=amp
Good man Duggan, always good to read and gets the intricacies of Mayo etc better than anyone else.
the Mayo lads on here are worried
worse still, is that anyone heading home to Mayo on Sunday have to drive through Roscommon
And go 4 miles past Ballaghaderreen before the meeting the Welcome to Mayo" sign.
All the shite has been talked all the banter has been engaged in and now it's up to the 2 teams to see what happens.
A very big ask for our small young teameen to overturn the Big Bastes of Mayowestros but sure the cycle of teams and all that givessels us hope.
Rhubarbs on the downward slope while we are on the up.
Result will depend on whether our up curve has reached their down curve.
Hopefully it has and that tomorrow will prove it.
Quote from: Rossfan on July 29, 2017, 12:26:31 PM
And go 4 miles past Ballaghaderreen before the meeting the Welcome to Mayo" sign.
All the shite has been talked allthe banter has been engaged in and now it's up to the 2 teams to see what happens.
A very big ask for our small young teameen to overturn the Big Bastes of Mayowestros but sure the cycle of teams and all that givessels us hope.
Rhubarbs on the downward slope while we are on the up.
Result will depend on whether our up curve has reached their down curve.
Hopefully it has and that tomorrow will prove it.
You contradicted yourself by not ending your post right there.
Anybody know what crowd is expected on Sunday?
Quote from: Bod Mor on July 29, 2017, 01:14:04 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 29, 2017, 12:26:31 PM
And go 4 miles past Ballaghaderreen before the meeting the Welcome to Mayo" sign.
All the shite has been talked allthe banter has been engaged in and now it's up to the 2 teams to see what happens.
A very big ask for our small young teameen to overturn the Big Bastes of Mayowestros but sure the cycle of teams and all that givessels us hope.
Rhubarbs on the downward slope while we are on the up.
Result will depend on whether our up curve has reached their down curve.
Hopefully it has and that tomorrow will prove it.
You contradicted yourself by not ending your post right there.
Anybody know what crowd is expected on Sunday?
From above in this thread, north of 60k. Kerry with almost no one and Galway with 5-8k if they're lucky. When you consider the populations of both counties there's hardly many more well supported counties in the country per capita.
Keith Duggan's house of pain book could do with an update, maybe with an a chapter on tomorrows game!
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on July 29, 2017, 12:19:17 PM
the Mayo lads on here are worried
worse still, is that anyone heading home to Mayo on Sunday have to drive through Roscommon
In fairness that can work both ways!
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 29, 2017, 04:12:14 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on July 29, 2017, 12:19:17 PM
the Mayo lads on here are worried
worse still, is that anyone heading home to Mayo on Sunday have to drive through Roscommon
In fairness that can work both ways!
In fairness, me arse! I'll do what I always do. I'll give the keys to herself, stick a peg on me nose and wear a blindfold untill she tells me we have crossed the Lung river.😁😁
My advice to the Roskies seen as ye have the time to do it tomorrow is to get well jarred before ye go in.
It eases the pain, believe me.
I'm hearing lower cusack and hogan front row seats now on sale. Heading for a sellout???
Match programme for tomorrow
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DF7cFlfXsAI-cHZ.jpg)
Can Galway come with 10 of Kerry. Mayo will beat Roscommon off it.
What's that question rrhf ?
RAISE UP THE STANDARD HIGH
WAVE BANNERS TO THE SKY
FOLLOW THEM ONWARDS THROUGH SUNSHINE AND RAIN
THEN WITH A MIGHTY ROAR
LET THE RHUBARBS KNOW ONCE MORE
MEN OF ROSCOMMON ARE MARCHING AGAIN.
How did Rossie night go in Coppers anyway? ;D
Time to hit the trail.
Jeeeesus I'd love it if we could bate them.
C'mon Ros time to make Rhubarb Crumble!
Someone bit me
Do any of you Roscommon boyos need directions to Croke Park?
Paddy D, Donie and DOC in for boyler, Caff and Andy. Priority no red or black cards for Kerry game. Should be winning by 10-12. This weekend has been the target since January. COC and Aidan O'Shea coming into, if we press up on Roscommon kickout Lavin will struggle. John McManus is weak link at FB
Quote from: mayoaremagic on July 30, 2017, 12:55:58 PM
Should be winning by 10-12
Will take a one point win myself. Think Ross are coming with a big performance we'll be doing well to hold them.
Quote from: mayoaremagic on July 30, 2017, 12:55:58 PM
Paddy D, Donie and DOC in for boyler, Caff and Andy. Priority no red or black cards for Kerry game. Should be winning by 10-12. This weekend has been the target since January. COC and Aidan O'Shea coming into, if we press up on Roscommon kickout Lavin will struggle. John McManus is weak link at FB
The Hollymount man gives his words of wisdom again!
Time for messing is over. I hope we have a good, clean (sort of) game and that there is a clear cut outcome. In others words, let there be no controversy about the final result.
I am confident of a Mayo win but I've had many disappointments before so I can live with a Rossie victory.
The reason I'm feeling positive about the result is that Mayo's training schedule invariably is to get the team to peak after they reach Croke Park. They have rode their luck many times but then luck is the most important ingredient of the lot when the ref throws the ball in.
BTW, may the winners go the whole way.
Ros well up for this, great start.
Uh ooooooh!! What a goal!! Clearly miss hit the point
Holy feck!!! Two goals!
f**k mayo goal!!
What a game! Where is everyone???
Quote from: omagh_gael on July 30, 2017, 04:15:08 PM
What a game! Where is everyone???
Defending optional by the looks of it today.
There is a picture on the RTE website of the Ros players running out onto the Croke Park pitch and it is very evocative
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2017/0730/893999-live-roscommon-mayo-kerry-galway-updates/
Ros could rue that wasteful 5 mins
Quote from: omagh_gael on July 30, 2017, 04:13:20 PM
Holy feck!!! Two goals!
f**k mayo goal!!
There'll be no talk about "own goals" from Mayo this evening.
Mayo is the big brother with the motorbike and the girlfriend
Ros is the 15 year old with the bum fluff
But loads of energy
And it''s family
Mayo back to one down, Ros missing an easy point. Ros looking lost in last 10 mins now that Mayo are a bit more structured at the back
Andy taking to much out of the Ball when he has it! :-\
Briefly threatened to be the match of the summer and has gone to shit completely. A comedy of errors.
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 30, 2017, 04:28:18 PM
Andy taking to much out of the Ball when he has it! :-\
There's a surprise.
Game has gotten very poor in 2nd quarter. Absolutely no runners coming through from Ros half back line. They are completely lost when they meet the Mayo wall.
Did the roscommon man not get a black card there?, now that what i call a deliberate drag down
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on July 30, 2017, 04:34:01 PM
Did the roscommon man not get a black card there?, now that what i call a deliberate drag down
He got a
Tick! ;D
Who the feck is on Keegan? He has all the time in the world down thst left wing. Right under McStay's nose too!
Roscommon like a young buck that blew the load early. Mayo the seasoned lothario that can last the pace!
No movement from Ros FF's. Mayo are playing a fulltime sweeper so they have to be breaking wide to engage the sweeper one way and create room the other. With no runners from deep they are totally ineffective now.
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 30, 2017, 04:35:17 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on July 30, 2017, 04:34:01 PM
Did the roscommon man not get a black card there?, now that what i call a deliberate drag down
He got a Tick! ;D
A Jesus lads that wasn't a black. DOC clearly dived when felt the tug. A free and tick the correct decision.
Quote from: Zulu on July 30, 2017, 04:37:42 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 30, 2017, 04:35:17 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on July 30, 2017, 04:34:01 PM
Did the roscommon man not get a black card there?, now that what i call a deliberate drag down
He got a Tick! ;D
A Jesus lads that wasn't a black. DOC clearly dived when felt the tug. A free and tick the correct decision.
Agreed.
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on July 30, 2017, 04:35:48 PM
Roscommon like a young buck that blew the load early. Mayo the seasoned lothario that can last the pace!
That may be a premature ejaculation. Ros have energy and can score. . The second half will be very interesting.
Which manager would be the better tactician?
Quote from: Zulu on July 30, 2017, 04:37:42 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 30, 2017, 04:35:17 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on July 30, 2017, 04:34:01 PM
Did the roscommon man not get a black card there?, now that what i call a deliberate drag down
He got a Tick! ;D
A Jesus lads that wasn't a black. DOC clearly dived when felt the tug. A free and tick the correct decision.
Never a black card. He should have let him shoot as the way he's playing he was never going to score. As someone else pointed out Roscommon players get to the 45m line look up and the FF line is standing still and offering no movement for the ball.
Ross in a great position here.
All they have to do is keep with us until the last ten and I think we'll finally run out of steam.
Heroic stuff from most of our lads and a bit of luck for the keegan goal keeping us in it.
Great to see the passion from Ros compared to the effort from Galway earlier. If they make it they'll give Kerry a good game.
All to play for.
Mayo profiting from greater overall potency, just about.
Roscommon having a good patch!
McStay pushing Smith up to FF working well, good start by Ros.
Mayo looking jaded, and if the Rossies had a little bit more composure in the final third...
Are the Rossies booing Moran?
The longer this continues the more roscommon will believe they can win this. Mayo need to switch their full back.
Be surrised if mayo win this now.
Madness bringing off Moran as it was madness doing it last weekend.
Quote from: omagh_gael on July 30, 2017, 05:10:51 PM
Are the Rossies booing Moran?
I'd have thought it was Mayo fans booing the decision to take him off maybe?
.The umpire enthusiastically waved that Parsons' effort wide.
Mayo are awful
Roscommon letting Mayo off the hook big style. Just like Cork did.
Will be a real shame if a savagely deflected goal is the winning of this game for Mayo
Who's co-commentating with Ger Canning, Kevin who?
I know they are probably very tired but should the Murtagh's not be on the field for the last few minutes? Roscommon need a score or two.
The mayo forwards have been absolutely terrible
Neither team deserved to win that.
Not great quality on show but a right old battle in fairness.
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on July 30, 2017, 05:33:14 PM
Who's co-commentating with Ger Canning, Kevin who?
Cassidy of ex Donegal fame
Quote from: Itchy on July 30, 2017, 05:41:35 PM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on July 30, 2017, 05:33:14 PM
Who's co-commentating with Ger Canning, Kevin who?
Cassidy of ex Donegal fame
Thanks, couldn't pinpoint that Gweedore brogue. :)
For such a seasoned & experienced team Mayo have been consistently rubbish this year, it smacks of a team not playing for their manager.
Kerry not shitting themselves on the replay result.
Thought there would be extra time! Lots of injury time.
Anyway. When and where will the reply be? Limerick?
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 30, 2017, 05:41:06 PM
Neither team deserved to win that.
And both deserved to lose it. That was abysmal.
Some of the lads Roscommon brought on were absolutely terrible. Compton at the end with no time on the clock putting his head down and bulling his way to...the corner flag.
I've taken some stick on here before for denigrating Cillian O'Connor as a footballer but f**k he was absolutely awful today.
Once again Mayo are dependent on Cillian Ó Connor . Once again the other forwards are not showing. Once again Cillian Ô Connor is not able to perform miracles. Mayo have again been Coc blocked.
Quote from: thejuice on July 30, 2017, 05:43:23 PM
Thought there would be extra time! Lots of injury time.
Anyway. When and where will the reply be? Limerick?
Ballaghadereen
Good game and well done Ross on superb performance in Croke Park. Ross supporters might have lost some friends with their booing of Mayo players. Poor form
Mayo do love a replay. I suspect they have more room for improvement. Either way, Eamonn Fitzmaurice won't be too worried if he was still in the stadium.
I can see the CCCC pushing to get the replay in the new pairc ui chaoimh
Quote from: gallsman on July 30, 2017, 05:44:32 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 30, 2017, 05:41:06 PM
Neither team deserved to win that.
And both deserved to lose it. That was abysmal.
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Some of the lads Roscommon brought on were absolutely terrible. Compton at the end with no time on the clock putting his head down and bulling his way to...the corner flag.
I've taken some stick on here before for denigrating Cillian O'Connor as a footballer but f**k he was absolutely awful today.
He was as bad today as he was good last week
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on July 30, 2017, 05:42:44 PM
Quote from: Itchy on July 30, 2017, 05:41:35 PM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on July 30, 2017, 05:33:14 PM
Who's co-commentating with Ger Canning, Kevin who?
Cassidy of ex Donegal fame
Thanks, couldn't pinpoint that Gweedore brogue. :)
His diction is much more clear than that nordie they have on Sky, Peter who?
That match will stand to Ros. Mayo have been around the block and know how to slow things down but Ros have better forwards and a very good manager.
Quote from: seafoid on July 30, 2017, 05:52:14 PM
That match will stand to Ros. Mayo have been around the block and know how to slow things down but Ros have better forwards and a very good manager.
Surely the problem was Ros had no forwards? Enjoyable match but stsndard was terrible. Kerry will have a cakewalk to the final again. Will do them no good when they meet the Dubs ;)
Quote from: Aughafad on July 30, 2017, 05:48:39 PM
I can see the CCCC pushing to get the replay in the new pairc ui chaoimh
https://mobile.twitter.com/DeludedFrank
Mad to think that Mayo have drawn 3 games this Summer and lost another by a point.
Quote from: Main Street on July 30, 2017, 05:50:03 PM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on July 30, 2017, 05:42:44 PM
Quote from: Itchy on July 30, 2017, 05:41:35 PM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on July 30, 2017, 05:33:14 PM
Who's co-commentating with Ger Canning, Kevin who?
Cassidy of ex Donegal fame
Thanks, couldn't pinpoint that Gweedore brogue. :)
His diction is much more clear than that nordie they have on Sky, Peter who?
You still suffering from that mental meltdown? Take a break lad! :D ;)
Quote from: seafoid on July 30, 2017, 06:00:48 PM
Quote from: Aughafad on July 30, 2017, 05:48:39 PM
I can see the CCCC pushing to get the replay in the new pairc ui chaoimh
https://mobile.twitter.com/DeludedFrank
They should toss a coin for home advantage.....Mayo play well in the Hyde and Roscommon play well in McHale Park
Woukd Salthill not be the venue?
Quote from: whitey on July 30, 2017, 06:04:33 PM
Quote from: seafoid on July 30, 2017, 06:00:48 PM
Quote from: Aughafad on July 30, 2017, 05:48:39 PM
I can see the CCCC pushing to get the replay in the new pairc ui chaoimh
https://mobile.twitter.com/DeludedFrank
They should toss a coin for home advantage.....Mayo play well in the Hyde and Roscommon play well in McHale Park
Yes, anything to stay away from the WIND TUNNEL!
Quote from: omagh_gael on July 30, 2017, 06:06:07 PM
Woukd Salthill not be the venue?
Race week in Galway.
Mayo did their best to lose that, but Ros made a balls of attack after attack in the last 10 mins.
Thank fook Mayo rarely let Lee Keegan loose. Great idea to stick him on an opponent so he has little influence on Mayo attacks! Utterly bizarre that after dominating the game in the first half, they played him in the full back line for a big chunk of the 2nd half.
Paddy Joe the barber reckons that Donie Smith's point was world class
That was one of the most electric matches I've ever went to. That buzz was unreal. Everything the GAA should be about was on display today.
Our young lads got to experience a new level of senior football today. Very proud of their performance and another game at this stage of the year is very welcome. Roll on Saturday.
Quote from: Mayo Border on July 30, 2017, 06:17:20 PM
Paddy Joe the barber reckons that Donie Smith's point was world class
He has now just stated on The Marty Squad that " Once we draw and dont win we never lose".
Seen a suggestion on Twitter to move Dublin v Monaghan QF to the bank holdiay monday and Mayo/Ros to the double header. Probably too many barriers to make thst happen.
Or could they squeeze it in before the Hurling on sunday?
That's surely the last nail in our coffin. We were out of gas today and 6 days is too short a recovery time.
Quote from: omagh_gael on July 30, 2017, 06:22:30 PM
Seen a suggestion on Twitter to move Dublin v Monaghan QF to the bank holdiay monday and Mayo/Ros to the double header. Probably too many barriers to make thst happen.
Or could they squeeze it in before the Hurling on sunday?
They'll be 60K+ alone at the hurling I'd say.
GAA SFC Quart-finals: Sat Aug 5 - Armagh v Tyrone 4.0; Dublin v Monaghan 6.0. Mon Aug 7 - Mayo v Roscommon replay time tbc. All @CrokePark
Quote from: Syferus on July 30, 2017, 06:20:06 PM
That was one of the most electric matches I've ever went to. That buzz was unreal. Everything the GAA should be about was on display today.
Our young lads got to experience a new level of senior football today. Very proud of their performance and another game at this stage of the year is very welcome. Roll on Saturday.
It was shite.
The standard of Connacht football is dreadful.
Probably the worst province of them all this year.
I've seen better Junior B matches than that sorry excuse for a game today.
Quote from: Hound on July 30, 2017, 06:11:22 PM
Mayo did their best to lose that, but Ros made a balls of attack after attack in the last 10 mins.
Thank fook Mayo rarely let Lee Keegan loose. Great idea to stick him on an opponent so he has little influence on Mayo attacks! Utterly bizarre that after dominating the game in the first half, they played him in the full back line for a big chunk of the 2nd half.
Unbelievable decision to move him to full back when he'd scored 1.3 in the first half. Roscommon would've been delighted to see him back there.
Excellent that we're not being dragged to Salthill. This match deserves the stage that befits it's status, it would have been an injustice for one of these teams to have gone out playing anywhere else but Croker. What an occasion today has been. The colour and the noise was something else. Hopefully more of the same on Monday week.
Anyone who was there today will want to see the conclusion..
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Quote from: Syferus on July 30, 2017, 06:20:06 PM
That was one of the most electric matches I've ever went to. That buzz was unreal. Everything the GAA should be about was on display today.
Our young lads got to experience a new level of senior football today. Very proud of their performance and another game at this stage of the year is very welcome. Roll on Saturday.
It was shite.
The standard of Connacht football is dreadful.
Probably the worst province of them all this year.
I've seen better Junior B matches than that sorry excuse for a game today.
You begrudging oul toss pot..
Great contest. Heroic day.
Let's hope we've learned from today and finish the job Monday week.
I always said ye were a bitter lot but today proved yer animals . The abuse andy got was the worst behavior i have ever witnessed at a game. My sister has spoken to family members there now and his mother was very upset . Its really not right guys, it wasnt just the booing the verbal abuse was scary the hatred . Really disgusting .
Calling people from Roscommon animals sets you above all that Larry. Really disgusting.
Booing Ros free takers wasn't very classy either.
Quote from: larryin89 on July 30, 2017, 07:05:09 PM
I always said ye were a bitter lot but today proved yer animals . The abuse andy got was the worst behavior i have ever witnessed at a game. My sister has spoken to family members there now and his mother was very upset . Its really not right guys, it wasnt just the booing the verbal abuse was scary the hatred . Really disgusting .
Phil will be fine. Daft post.
Andy brought it on himself this year, to be honest.
Replay a fair result no side deserved to lose. The guts and determination showed by both sides was superb they gave their all to cause. Hopefully the replay is as good if not better.
Quote from: larryin89 on July 30, 2017, 07:05:09 PM
I always said ye were a bitter lot but today proved yer animals . The abuse andy got was the worst behavior i have ever witnessed at a game. My sister has spoken to family members there now and his mother was very upset . Its really not right guys, it wasnt just the booing the verbal abuse was scary the hatred . Really disgusting .
What a ridiculous post. Every county has nut jobs following them. Remember the mayo fan who tried to attack the referee in Limerick and became a mini celebrity/hero with Mayo fans looking for selfies!!!! A lot of hatred for him that day and I'd imagine upsetting/frightening for his family.
He's not the 1st player to be booed in croker and he won't be the last. It didn't bother Andy Moran. That man will have to play for Mayo until he's 40 because none of the other forwards are any use
Rochford must have money on the opposition at this stage, some unbelievable calls again, Cafferkey starting is just beyond farcical at this stage. Drake and Coen coming on, Boyle going off, just beggars belief.
Quote from: Mac2 on July 30, 2017, 07:27:28 PM
Rochford must have money on the opposition at this stage, some unbelievable calls again, Cafferkey starting is just beyond farcical at this stage. Drake and Coen coming on, Boyle going off, just beggars belief.
At one stage in the 2nd half a forward literally walked past Cafferty. someone else then fouled the forward and roscommon got a handy point form a free
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Quote from: Mac2 on July 30, 2017, 07:27:28 PM
Rochford must have money on the opposition at this stage, some unbelievable calls again, Cafferkey starting is just beyond farcical at this stage. Drake and Coen coming on, Boyle going off, just beggars belief.
At one stage in the 2nd half a forward literally walked past Cafferty. someone else then fouled the forward and roscommon got a handy point form a free
They also had to put their best player and main score getter Lee Keegan in the FB line in the 2nd half to do a marking job to cover for him. Without his driving runs Mayo struggled to get scores in the 2nd half. I think they only scored 4 points in the whole 2nd half
Was a similar game to last years quarter final between Tyrone and Mayo when that day Tyrone didn't look to have any forward. Mayo live to fight another day a hard team to beat no doubt but you have to wonder how many lives is left in this old Mayo cat.
I was due to fly out on a holiday bank holiday Monday but I'm going to have to change my flight. No fecking way am I missing this match.
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Quote from: larryin89 on July 30, 2017, 07:05:09 PM
I always said ye were a bitter lot but today proved yer animals . The abuse andy got was the worst behavior i have ever witnessed at a game. My sister has spoken to family members there now and his mother was very upset . Its really not right guys, it wasnt just the booing the verbal abuse was scary the hatred . Really disgusting .
What a ridiculous post. Every county has nut jobs following them. Remember the mayo fan who tried to attack the referee in Limerick and became a mini celebrity/hero with Mayo fans looking for selfies!!!! A lot of hatred for him that day and I'd imagine upsetting/frightening for his family.
He's not the 1st player to be booed in croker and he won't be the last. It didn't bother Andy Moran. That man will have to play for Mayo until he's 40 because none of the other forwards are any use
Booing players is wrong, no matter who is doing the booing .
Not a day for forwards today! Geaney and Donaghy the only ones to come away with a decent days work. JOD was terrible. Mayo, Ros and especially the much vaulted Galway forwards all flopped! Conditions did not help but at intercounty standard you'd expect more.
Quote from: Syferus on July 30, 2017, 07:56:56 PM
I was due to fly out on a holiday bank holiday Monday but I'm going to have to change my flight. No fecking way am I missing this match.
I would have thought you would be a holidays in Co Roscommon type, Syf. Ming has often drawn attention to how well Galway does out of tourism compared to Roscommon.
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 30, 2017, 08:04:33 PM
Not a day for forwards today! Geaney and Donaghy the only ones to come away with a decent days work. JOD was terrible. Mayo, Ros and especially the much vaulted Galway forwards all flopped! Conditions did not help but at intercounty standard you'd expect more.
Hasn't trained for a week and a bit apparently and carrying a knock
Disgrace the Replay is not in Connacht! All to accommodate Corporate Boxes and Vendors and the chance to charge extra for seats!
>:(
Proper order its in croker
More expense and more time wasted. No where to stay the night before. Costs a fortune. Bollockx Bollockx!
CORPORATE BOXES DECISION!
Castlebar, Roscommon Town or Galway in more need of Financial Boost!
Quote from: Cunny Funt on July 30, 2017, 07:17:06 PM
Replay a fair result no side deserved to lose. The guts and determination showed by both sides was superb they gave their all to cause. Hopefully the replay is as good if not better.
It could only be better. Outside guts and determination the quality was fairly thin
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 30, 2017, 08:45:38 PM
More expense and more time wasted. No where to stay the night before. Costs a fortune. Bollockx Bollockx!
CORPORATE BOXES DECISION!
There's no one in Roscommon that's complaining about this venue.
To win in Croker in August would be a defining moment for this team. Champions play in Croke Park in August.
25-30k max will turn up to the replay and the atmosphere will be like a morgue.
Galway or Clones should have been chosen as the replay venue.
Both venues would have handled the crowd no problem and the atmosphere would be far superior to what it will be at Croke Park.
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Champions play in Croke Park in August.
Hmm, let me run through my experience of that one there for a minute.........
Quote from: Cunny Funt on July 30, 2017, 07:17:06 PM
Replay a fair result no side deserved to lose. The guts and determination showed by both sides was superb they gave their all to cause. Hopefully the replay is as good if not better.
Roscommon deserved to win and it was probably the "own goal" which deprived them of it.
Joke that the two teams and supporters are being dragged back up to Corporate Park, when the winning team is back up again within a fortnight. No regard for the cost of following a team at all.
Mayo have done nothing to justify removing H / C. They mightn't have been up to it, but their performances haven't been anything to shout about.They stuttered their way to an Ireland final last year. Even if they do get past Roscommon, it's as far as they will be going.
They peaked around 2014.
Quote from: Owenmoresider on July 30, 2017, 09:28:09 PM
Joke that the two teams and supporters are being dragged back up to Corporate Park, when the winning team is back up again within a fortnight. No regard for the cost of following a team at all.
Ye won't have to be spending much money on trains to Dublin anyways.
Some dirty rotten hoor clamped half the cars in the Boyle train station car park.
What the fûck is wrong with these lads? The trains were over-packed and nearly suffocating with the heat up and down. And now this.
If you don't pay for pay parking.... ..
I'm sure there are hearts bleeding for you all over the board.
Plenty of passion from both sides but as a neutral the quality was poor to be honest.
Roscommon have the beating of Mayo but it won't happen if their forward don't make runs and give options to the man in possession. Happy to see a replay as no side deserved to win imo.
Quote from: gallsman on July 30, 2017, 10:10:14 PM
I'm sure there are hearts bleeding for you all over the board.
I wasn't clamped, so you can begin the process of winding in your neck.
Quote from: Syferus on July 30, 2017, 06:57:50 PM
Excellent that we're not being dragged to Salthill. This match deserves the stage that befits it's status, it would have been an injustice for one of these teams to have gone out playing anywhere else but Croker. What an occasion today has been. The colour and the noise was something else. Hopefully more of the same on Monday week.
Anyone who was there today will want to see the conclusion..
Aye, the conclusion was awaited so people could go home.
Quote from: rodney trotter on July 30, 2017, 09:37:14 PM
Mayo have done nothing to justify removing H / C. They mightn't have been up to it, but their performances haven't been anything to shout about.They stuttered their way to an Ireland final last year. Even if they do get past Roscommon, it's as far as they will be going.
They peaked around 2014.
Most people have moved on from H / C , but not everybody , apparently !
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Quote from: Cunny Funt on July 30, 2017, 07:17:06 PM
Replay a fair result no side deserved to lose. The guts and determination showed by both sides was superb they gave their all to cause. Hopefully the replay is as good if not better.
It could only be better. Outside guts and determination the quality was fairly thin
Could say the same about the first All Ireland final last year, a 2-9 to 0-15 result and Mayo scored both goals for Dublin.
Is the lad harney from the u-21 team a few years ago not playing for roscommon these days?
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on July 30, 2017, 11:22:12 PM
Is the lad harney from the u-21 team a few years ago not playing for roscommon these days?
He has a fracture in his back. Played in the league. Out for the year.
Quote from: Syferus on July 30, 2017, 06:20:06 PM
That was one of the most electric matches I've ever went to. That buzz was unreal. Everything the GAA should be about was on display today.
Our young lads got to experience a new level of senior football today. Very proud of their performance and another game at this stage of the year is very welcome. Roll on Saturday.
It was close and tense but it was a very poor game as was Kerry and Galway. Saturdays two qualifiers were much better entertainment.
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Quote from: Syferus on July 30, 2017, 06:20:06 PM
That was one of the most electric matches I've ever went to. That buzz was unreal. Everything the GAA should be about was on display today.
Our young lads got to experience a new level of senior football today. Very proud of their performance and another game at this stage of the year is very welcome. Roll on Saturday.
It was close and tense but it was a very poor game as was Kerry and Galway. Saturdays two qualifiers were much better entertainment.
And much better quality. Kerry aside the 4 teams on saturday would fancy their chances against any of the other three on show today
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Quote from: Syferus on July 30, 2017, 06:20:06 PM
That was one of the most electric matches I've ever went to. That buzz was unreal. Everything the GAA should be about was on display today.
Our young lads got to experience a new level of senior football today. Very proud of their performance and another game at this stage of the year is very welcome. Roll on Saturday.
It was close and tense but it was a very poor game as was Kerry and Galway. Saturdays two qualifiers were much better entertainment.
And much better quality. Kerry aside the 4 teams on saturday would fancy their chances against any of the other three on show today
To be fair 3 out of the 4 would fancy their chances against Tyrone as well! It's only Kerry and especially Dublin that most don't fancy! ;)
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Quote from: Syferus on July 30, 2017, 06:20:06 PM
That was one of the most electric matches I've ever went to. That buzz was unreal. Everything the GAA should be about was on display today.
Our young lads got to experience a new level of senior football today. Very proud of their performance and another game at this stage of the year is very welcome. Roll on Saturday.
It was close and tense but it was a very poor game as was Kerry and Galway. Saturdays two qualifiers were much better entertainment.
And much better quality. Kerry aside the 4 teams on saturday would fancy their chances against any of the other three on show today
To be fair 3 out of the 4 would fancy their chances against Tyrone as well! It's only Kerry and especially Dublin that most don't fancy! ;)
Ros or Mayo would have beaten Kerry had we played them this afternoon. Galway were pathetic but Kerry were very poor.
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Quote from: Syferus on July 30, 2017, 06:20:06 PM
That was one of the most electric matches I've ever went to. That buzz was unreal. Everything the GAA should be about was on display today.
Our young lads got to experience a new level of senior football today. Very proud of their performance and another game at this stage of the year is very welcome. Roll on Saturday.
It was close and tense but it was a very poor game as was Kerry and Galway. Saturdays two qualifiers were much better entertainment.
Playing with a dry ball in Croke Park versus a wet ball... like 2 different sports.
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Quote from: Syferus on July 30, 2017, 06:20:06 PM
That was one of the most electric matches I've ever went to. That buzz was unreal. Everything the GAA should be about was on display today.
Our young lads got to experience a new level of senior football today. Very proud of their performance and another game at this stage of the year is very welcome. Roll on Saturday.
It was close and tense but it was a very poor game as was Kerry and Galway. Saturdays two qualifiers were much better entertainment.
And much better quality. Kerry aside the 4 teams on saturday would fancy their chances against any of the other three on show today
To be fair 3 out of the 4 would fancy their chances against Tyrone as well! It's only Kerry and especially Dublin that most don't fancy! ;)
Ros or Mayo would have beaten Kerry had we played them this afternoon. Galway were pathetic but Kerry were very poor.
The All Ireland isn't won in July.
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Quote from: Syferus on July 30, 2017, 06:20:06 PM
That was one of the most electric matches I've ever went to. That buzz was unreal. Everything the GAA should be about was on display today.
Our young lads got to experience a new level of senior football today. Very proud of their performance and another game at this stage of the year is very welcome. Roll on Saturday.
It was close and tense but it was a very poor game as was Kerry and Galway. Saturdays two qualifiers were much better entertainment.
And much better quality. Kerry aside the 4 teams on saturday would fancy their chances against any of the other three on show today
To be fair 3 out of the 4 would fancy their chances against Tyrone as well! It's only Kerry and especially Dublin that most don't fancy! ;)
Ros or Mayo would have beaten Kerry had we played them this afternoon. Galway were pathetic but Kerry were very poor.
The All Ireland isn't won in July.
It can be lost in July.
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Quote from: Syferus on July 30, 2017, 06:20:06 PM
That was one of the most electric matches I've ever went to. That buzz was unreal. Everything the GAA should be about was on display today.
Our young lads got to experience a new level of senior football today. Very proud of their performance and another game at this stage of the year is very welcome. Roll on Saturday.
It was close and tense but it was a very poor game as was Kerry and Galway. Saturdays two qualifiers were much better entertainment.
Poor Monaghan bet awful Down.
D3 Armagh bet a poor Kildare.
I suppose that's entertainment in Cavan.
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That was one of the most electric matches I've ever went to. That buzz was unreal. Everything the GAA should be about was on display today.
Our young lads got to experience a new level of senior football today. Very proud of their performance and another game at this stage of the year is very welcome. Roll on Saturday.
It was close and tense but it was a very poor game as was Kerry and Galway. Saturdays two qualifiers were much better entertainment.
And much better quality. Kerry aside the 4 teams on saturday would fancy their chances against any of the other three on show today
To be fair 3 out of the 4 would fancy their chances against Tyrone as well! It's only Kerry and especially Dublin that most don't fancy! ;)
Ros or Mayo would have beaten Kerry had we played them this afternoon. Galway were pathetic but Kerry were very poor.
That is absolute balls!
Donaghy will take you to school if you beat Mayo
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That was one of the most electric matches I've ever went to. That buzz was unreal. Everything the GAA should be about was on display today.
Our young lads got to experience a new level of senior football today. Very proud of their performance and another game at this stage of the year is very welcome. Roll on Saturday.
It was close and tense but it was a very poor game as was Kerry and Galway. Saturdays two qualifiers were much better entertainment.
And much better quality. Kerry aside the 4 teams on saturday would fancy their chances against any of the other three on show today
To be fair 3 out of the 4 would fancy their chances against Tyrone as well! It's only Kerry and especially Dublin that most don't fancy! ;)
Ros or Mayo would have beaten Kerry had we played them this afternoon. Galway were pathetic but Kerry were very poor.
That is absolute balls!
Donaghy will take you to school if you beat Mayo
He'd want to be taken to a Cúl camp to learn the basics of gaelic football alright.
Don't mind them Syfīn, we came of age today and proved we can play in Croke Park and compete with a top 3 team.
Heroism all around, great start , totally lost our way, better players didn't perform, came back and in a nip and tuck contest with one of the top teams held our own.
Proud of our gallant lads today and hoping they can apply the coup de gras to an ailing Mayowestros outfit the next day.
By the way the whinging on the mayoblog is amusing.
Also seems inebriated Rhubarbs were fighting among themselves on trains tonight.
Ah well....
As i said before this game i had a feeling it would finish in a draw and that's how it went. As for those complaining about the quality of the game i think a few forget recent AI finals were worse and in 1998 Galway Roscommon played out 0-11 draw and back then Galway were totally written off after it. Todays game was intriguing contest played in the rain and where defenses were on top, give me that type of game every day of the week instead of Dublin,Kerry or Mayo hammering some poorly organized team.
Quote from: Rossfan on July 31, 2017, 01:18:50 AM
Don't mind them Syfīn, we came of age today and proved we can play in Croke Park and compete with a top 3 team.
Heroism all around, great start , totally lost our way, better players didn't perform, came back and in a nip and tuck contest with one of the top teams held our own.
Proud of our gallant lads today and hoping they can apply the coup de gras to an ailing Mayowestros outfit the next day.
By the way the whinging on the mayoblog is amusing.
Also seems inebriated Rhubarbs were fighting among themselves on trains tonight.
Ah well....
To think the 'experienced' heads in this team are the likes of Niall Mc and Sean Mul who have barely more than 12 months senior experience each. Both are already leaders in their lines. There is so much potential for good days ahead if we keep these lads together. They have a fearlessness that has been missing in Roscommon football for far too long.
Having to pick two of Cian Connolly, Diarmuid Murtagh and Donie Smith to start is an incredible luxury for us. Donie came on and scored a lovely point from play but that free was something out of the top drawer. When McStay subs out both Murtaghs he's putting a huge amount of trust into Donie because frees and the winning or losing of the game will fall to him, and he's rarely let us down - Salthill against the wind last year, putting the knife to Galway this year and then today. The lad is built for the pressure kicks.
Put the boot in next Monday. There were a lot of quiet performances from our star players today and hopefully they will rectify that given a second chance.
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 31, 2017, 01:21:43 AM
As i said before this game i had a feeling it would finish in a draw and that's how it went. As for those complaining about the quality of the game i think a few forget recent AI finals were worse and in 1998 Galway Roscommon played out 0-11 draw and back then Galway were totally written off after it. Todays game was intriguing contest played in the rain and where defenses were on top, give me that type of game every day of the week instead of Dublin,Kerry or Mayo hammering some poorly organized team.
Neither mayo or Roscommon are in Galway 98- 01 league you left that bit out .
I think Roscommon had a great chance yesterday. Mayo are playing too many games for a team with their mileage .
Quote from: Syferus on July 31, 2017, 01:53:39 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 31, 2017, 01:18:50 AM
Don't mind them Syfīn, we came of age today and proved we can play in Croke Park and compete with a top 3 team.
Heroism all around, great start , totally lost our way, better players didn't perform, came back and in a nip and tuck contest with one of the top teams held our own.
Proud of our gallant lads today and hoping they can apply the coup de gras to an ailing Mayowestros outfit the next day.
By the way the whinging on the mayoblog is amusing.
Also seems inebriated Rhubarbs were fighting among themselves on trains tonight.
Ah well....
To think the 'experienced' heads in this team are the likes of Niall Mc and Sean Mul who have barely more than 12 months senior experience each. Both are already leaders in their lines. There is so much potential for good days ahead if we keep these lads together. They have a fearlessness that has been missing in Roscommon football for far too long.
Having to pick two of Cian Connolly, Diarmuid Murtagh and Donie Smith to start is an incredible luxury for us. Donie came on and scored a lovely point from play but that free was something out of the top drawer. When McStay subs out both Murtaghs he's putting a huge amount of trust into Donie because frees and the winning or losing of the game will fall to him, and he's rarely let us down - Salthill against the wind last year, putting the knife to Galway this year and then today. The lad is built for the pressure kicks.
Put the boot in next Monday. There were a lot of quiet performances from our star players today and hopefully they will rectify that given a second chance.
Gas how Mc Stay is now the Messiah after all the abuse he shipped from Roscommon fans
Results.
Did Gay Sheerin ever apologise to Kevin McStay through the local Roscommon media after winning the Connaght final. He got the better of Rochford on the line yesterday. Moving Enda Smith into the FF line removed Mayo's best attacking threat/shooter.
Taking of Boyle around 55 min seems to be standard move this year. I assume Rochford thinks he hasn't got the legs for a full 70 min anymore. Mayo should consider using a Mickey Harte/Peter Canavan tactic with Andy Moran. Start him but substitute him after 20/25 min. Then bring him back on for the last 20/25 min. That way their best forward is on the pitch when needed at the end
Where Ros went wrong yesterdsy was their lack of runners from deep. There were multiple times when players like Mulooly burst out of defence and then hit the Mayo wall just outside the 45. They then messed about until they were either turned over or played a hail Mary ball into the FF where Mayo had finally sorted themselves out.
If Ros can get runners sprinting off the ball carrier's shoulder at that 45 wall and make angled runs they will make hay. Im sure McStay has this tactic hammered into them but i didn't see it executed well at all.
You can only admire Mayo for their survival instincts this year and last. Every game we are saying they're a team that's beat but they hold on. That takes some balls. It wouldn't surprise me if we were to find the feckers in the AI final!!
Syf and Rossfan, calm down. If that was a great performance, then it must be because he were shite for so long. The 'excitement level might be up there with the best of them, but there were mistakes aplenty from both I'm sure. Can I also tell you Rossfan that unfortunately Mayo are no longer a top 3 team. Syf and others ridiculed my pessimism the other day. But sure aren't we still in it. Surely we can't play that bad again. Hmmm let me see... it's exactly the same shitty performance that Mayo have been putting in all year. Only we now know that the other teams clearly weren't as good as Ros. I must also compliment McStay who won the sideline battle hands down. Ros seem to be at Mayo's level, not quite at Kerry's yet, but ye may put it up to them.
Mayo hanging in there by a thread. Only 5 players can say that they did reasonably well, namely Harrison, Higgins (who I had doubted for his pace early on in the year) Keegan, who I voted man of the match on mayoblog, Boyle and I thought McLoughlin did a lot right when the rest of the front 8 offered very little. I'll say no more about that department because there's nothing else to say.
I'm still trying to get my head around something. I think most of us will agree that Caff was taken to the cleaners once again. You'd think that management might you know, bring someone on. Instead they swap him with Keegan at half time. The same Keegan who scored 1-3 from play in the first half. Then Caff gets a hard time at wingback because his lack of pace, which was evident against Cork happened again. You'd think that management might take him off. No, off goes Boyle. I can't remember who came on for who, but did any sub make a positive contribution at all? I mean even the Galway subs added more energy. Taking off Doherty and putting Drake with a minute or 2 to go when we needed a score...
I don't know. Ros will win the replay.
It's looked like this for a long while now, but I think there's no doubting it now - this Mayo team is running on fumes and have very little left. In some ways, it would be a relief and give everyone a badly needed break.
They still battle against the tide, and unfortunately they are not helped by the baffling substitutions - bringing on Coen and Drake for DOC and Doherty when we needed a score!
Fair play to Ros (apart from the thickos who spent the day jeering and booing Andy Moran), they brought massive support and their team put up a decent performance in Croker. They are still no world beaters though - they had a 7 point lead wiped out and were losing by 2 by half time. Really Mayo should have pushed on and won comfortably, but the team just can't sustain a performance for that long anymore.
First of all well done Ros it was a good/valuable performance despite the moaning on here, you should be extremely confident going into the replay.
I think neutrals are just sick of the sight of Mayo and you are getting caught in the negative crossfire.
Onto us. People are making a lot of the fact that we are playing a lot of games and 'have milage on the clock' (i've said it myself in fairness :)) but in fact we seem to finish stronger in every single game, our strength and conditioning is really first class.
So what is wrong with us - is it mental? It's extremely hard to know but I don't think so. Although players were ostensibly playing badly yesterday they continued to work unbelievably hard and made telling contributions despite their game being 'off'. That tells me that mentally we're in a good place.
So mentally we're ok, physically we're good why is our standard of play so uneven?
Strangely enough if we do get there I'd have no fear at all of playing Kerry or Dublin, don't understand the doom mongering there.
Kerry have looked very ordinary this year apart from the league final and were quite poor against a zero-confidence effort from Galway yesterday.
Dubiln are dublin. You have to beat them to win the AI but we match up well.
Last thing to say was how great was it to see a performance from Keith Higgins like that again. He still has it.
the amount of fouling the Mayo backs get away with off the ball is crazy. Not one free given for that all game. Enda Smith was being dragged and pulled by Keegan all second half when trying to make runs and not one free.
And we need to talk about Cillian
took out a player with an elbow.
engineered a free when he fouled the Fintan Cregg himself, then fell to the ground when touched.
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on July 31, 2017, 10:00:59 AM
the amount of fouling the Mayo backs get away with off the ball is crazy. Not one free given for that all game. Enda Smith was being dragged and pulled by Keegan all second half when trying to make runs and not one free.
And we need to talk about Cillian
took out a player with an elbow.
engineered a free when he fouled the Fintan Cregg himself, then fell to the ground when touched.
Welcome to the real world! That's what happens when you play Mayo (and to a greater extent when you play Kerry or Dublin, not to even mention Tyrone)!
You either get with it or you get Bullied! Don't expect the Referee to mind you.
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 31, 2017, 10:06:44 AM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on July 31, 2017, 10:00:59 AM
the amount of fouling the Mayo backs get away with off the ball is crazy. Not one free given for that all game. Enda Smith was being dragged and pulled by Keegan all second half when trying to make runs and not one free.
And we need to talk about Cillian
took out a player with an elbow.
engineered a free when he fouled the Fintan Cregg himself, then fell to the ground when touched.
Welcome to the real world! That's what happens when you play Mayo (and to a greater extent when you play Kerry or Dublin, not to even mention Tyrone)!
You either get with it or you get Bullied! Don't expect the Referee to mind you.
that's ridiculous
whats the point of a referee then?
just let the archbishop throw the ball in and let the fun begin
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on July 31, 2017, 10:11:20 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 31, 2017, 10:06:44 AM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on July 31, 2017, 10:00:59 AM
the amount of fouling the Mayo backs get away with off the ball is crazy. Not one free given for that all game. Enda Smith was being dragged and pulled by Keegan all second half when trying to make runs and not one free.
And we need to talk about Cillian
took out a player with an elbow.
engineered a free when he fouled the Fintan Cregg himself, then fell to the ground when touched.
Welcome to the real world! That's what happens when you play Mayo (and to a greater extent when you play Kerry or Dublin, not to even mention Tyrone)!
You either get with it or you get Bullied! Don't expect the Referee to mind you.
that's ridiculous
whats the point of a referee then?
just let the archbishop throw the ball in and let the fun begin
The Referee is there to keep proceeding in order. But you cannot depend on him. There is only so much he can see and deal with. If you are depending on the Referee to mind you, you are in big, big trouble. You have to take care of yourself first. If you are not happy with that go watch Tennis, Golf or Snooker! ;)
the thing about mayo is we have seen all this before .
I would expect the bookies to intall mayo ass bigger favorites for Monday
pluck no hoper come up play out of their skins Ref gives them everything take mayo to go 7 down to get interested. and never really looked motivated all day
To compete with mayo roscommon need that newbie energy they had yesterday .
in short they had there chance and Blew it
Quote from: dublin7 on July 31, 2017, 08:08:08 AM
Taking of Boyle around 55 min seems to be standard move this year. I assume Rochford thinks he hasn't got the legs for a full 70 min anymore. Mayo should consider using a Mickey Harte/Peter Canavan tactic with Andy Moran. Start him but substitute him after 20/25 min. Then bring him back on for the last 20/25 min. That way their best forward is on the pitch when needed at the end
Taking off Moran all the time is another one of these Mayo mysteries. It's like there's a rule that because of his age he can't last 70. Yet, I've never seen him this season looking tired. He didn't have his best game yesterday, but just 90 seconds before he was taken off he was out in front of his marker and kicked a lovely score. The third time this championship that he's been taken off very shortly after getting a point.
Either Boyle isn't fully fit or Rochford doesnt like him. Coz there can be no other reason he doens't play 70 minutes every game.
Mayo have absolutely no problem (physically) playing a game every weekend. In the last quarter they created far more scoring opportunities than Roscommon to win that game. Cillian had 4 misses in the last few minutes, that won't happen again.
Assuming Mayo keep Keegan on a leash and make him man-mark, then the Rossies just need to think of "what would Aidan or Cillian do?" everytime Keegan crosses the line with one of their players. But if Mayo let Keegan play as an attacking wing back, then they'd be hard stopped.
If Mayo get through this, they will push Kerry to the pin of their collars. On the other hand, beating Mayo would be Ros's all Ireland.
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 31, 2017, 10:20:02 AM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on July 31, 2017, 10:11:20 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 31, 2017, 10:06:44 AM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on July 31, 2017, 10:00:59 AM
the amount of fouling the Mayo backs get away with off the ball is crazy. Not one free given for that all game. Enda Smith was being dragged and pulled by Keegan all second half when trying to make runs and not one free.
And we need to talk about Cillian
took out a player with an elbow.
engineered a free when he fouled the Fintan Cregg himself, then fell to the ground when touched.
Welcome to the real world! That's what happens when you play Mayo (and to a greater extent when you play Kerry or Dublin, not to even mention Tyrone)!
You either get with it or you get Bullied! Don't expect the Referee to mind you.
that's ridiculous
whats the point of a referee then?
just let the archbishop throw the ball in and let the fun begin
The Referee is there to keep proceeding in order. But you cannot depend on him. There is only so much he can see and deal with. If you are depending on the Referee to mind you, you are in big, big trouble. You have to take care of yourself first. If you are not happy with that go watch Tennis, Golf or Snooker! ;)
delusional stuff
the referee in any field game is there to implement the rules and protect players - rugby, soccer, hurling, aussie rules
manfromdelmonte, I presume you didn't read the thread I started back during the league about what Keegan gets away with in games. I said time and time again the Mayo manager wastes arguably their best player by doing a man "marking" job on the other teams best player. He had scored 1.03 inside the first 25 mins yesterday yet Rochford still puts him back to mark Roscommon's best forward. Crazy stuff.
I tried to calmly discuss with the Mayo posters on here that he continually fouls his man and pulls and drags him to prevent them from making runs like he often can be seen doing v Diarmuid Connolly but alas nobody from Mayo could admit this and as you saw above it's just accepted that it's part of the game and the ref lets it go.
The problem is sometimes the refs do let it go with the excuse they want to let the game flow but like yourself, to me it a foul all day long and could be the difference between your time winning and losing. I blame the umpires to be honest for not drawing it to the refs attention.
Anyway, back to the game. I was amazed how much possession Ros just aimlessly kicked into the FF line as 50/50 balls rather than good kick passing into players chests or into space. Time and time again they gave away the ball and looked like this was their plan to beat the sweeper.
I thought against Cork, Coc, O'Shea and Diarmuid were very good but yesterday they all were poor.
You would expect them to win the replay but maybe Rossies will believe in themselves more now after a good performance in Croker.
Have to comment on some of the Rossie fans as well. We were in the premium where there was a good mix of fans from various counties. Two young Rossie fans came in at halftime and took two Kerry lads seats who had just left. They shouted and jeered every Mayo miss or bad pass and totally made themselves look like louts. Then the Mayo fans behind them reacted and the security lady had to some down and talk to them.
I can appreciate it was a big match for the Rossies against one of their biggest rivals in Croke park but I felt a lot of fans let themselves down yesterday and I've often felt the same about fans from my own county at times.
Happy with another run put in Croke Park. The lads did is proud. No reason why we can't win the replay. Keegan is a fine player however his goal was poxy. So a pox goal saved Mayo compared to our well worked moves. Mullholly was superb.
Quote from: Rossfan on July 31, 2017, 01:18:50 AM
Don't mind them Syfīn, we came of age today and proved we can play in Croke Park and compete with a top 3 team.
Heroism all around, great start , totally lost our way, better players didn't perform, came back and in a nip and tuck contest with one of the top teams held our own.
Proud of our gallant lads today and hoping they can apply the coup de gras to an ailing Mayowestros outfit the next day.
By the way the whinging on the mayoblog is amusing.
Also seems inebriated Rhubarbs were fighting among themselves on trains tonight.
Ah well....
Marinated Rhubarb is an acquired taste
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on July 31, 2017, 10:00:59 AM
the amount of fouling the Mayo backs get away with off the ball is crazy. Not one free given for that all game. Enda Smith was being dragged and pulled by Keegan all second half when trying to make runs and not one free.
And we need to talk about Cillian
took out a player with an elbow.
engineered a free when he fouled the Fintan Cregg himself, then fell to the ground when touched.
Have say Mayo are excellent are stopping the quick free. Never seem to be punished. Yet all their frees get brought forward when opposition doesn't retreat 14 yards
Quote from: Gael85 on July 31, 2017, 11:39:04 AM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on July 31, 2017, 10:00:59 AM
the amount of fouling the Mayo backs get away with off the ball is crazy. Not one free given for that all game. Enda Smith was being dragged and pulled by Keegan all second half when trying to make runs and not one free.
And we need to talk about Cillian
took out a player with an elbow.
engineered a free when he fouled the Fintan Cregg himself, then fell to the ground when touched.
Have say Mayo are excellent are stopping the quick free. Never seem to be punished. Yet all their frees get brought forward when opposition doesn't retreat 14 yards
put your arms in the air and walk across a lad as he's about to take the free... they do it all day long
but sure look, the O'Connors and O'Sheas are lovely fellas
Quote from: Fuzzman on July 31, 2017, 11:25:41 AM
I tried to calmly discuss with the Mayo posters on here that he continually fouls his man and pulls and drags him to prevent them from making runs like he often can be seen doing v Diarmuid Connolly but alas nobody from Mayo could admit this and as you saw above it's just accepted that it's part of the game and the ref lets it go.
Not at all! That's just the Dublin media making stuff up!
He's a very aggressive man marker. If a ref or linesman looks at him at the right time, he'll be getting himself another black or red card. I believe Parkinson on twitter was having a right go at the off the ball stuff he was getting up to. Nothing wrong with playing on the edge, but he's a massive loss when he gets caught.
From the TV, it appeared the Roscommon fans brought get colour and noise (as Mayo always do too). Of course, there'll be gombeens there too.
Has there been a pitch invasion on Croker in the last few years? Was thinking the Rossies might be hard stopped had they sneaked it!
(http://i.imgur.com/ySHoBYw.jpg)
the Lee Keegan method of marking
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 31, 2017, 08:30:00 AM
Syf and Rossfan, calm down. If that was a great performance, then it must be because he were shite for so long. The 'excitement level might be up there with the best of them, but there were mistakes aplenty from both I'm sure. Can I also tell you Rossfan that unfortunately Mayo are no longer a top 3 team. Syf and others ridiculed my pessimism the other day. But sure aren't we still in it. Surely we can't play that bad again. Hmmm let me see... it's exactly the same shitty performance that Mayo have been putting in all year. Only we now know that the other teams clearly weren't as good as Ros. I must also compliment McStay who won the sideline battle hands down. Ros seem to be at Mayo's level, not quite at Kerry's yet, but ye may put it up to them.
Mayo hanging in there by a thread. Only 5 players can say that they did reasonably well, namely Harrison, Higgins (who I had doubted for his pace early on in the year) Keegan, who I voted man of the match on mayoblog, Boyle and I thought McLoughlin did a lot right when the rest of the front 8 offered very little. I'll say no more about that department because there's nothing else to say.
I'm still trying to get my head around something. I think most of us will agree that Caff was taken to the cleaners once again. You'd think that management might you know, bring someone on. Instead they swap him with Keegan at half time. The same Keegan who scored 1-3 from play in the first half. Then Caff gets a hard time at wingback because his lack of pace, which was evident against Cork happened again. You'd think that management might take him off. No, off goes Boyle. I can't remember who came on for who, but did any sub make a positive contribution at all? I mean even the Galway subs added more energy. Taking off Doherty and putting Drake with a minute or 2 to go when we needed a score...
I don't know. Ros will win the replay.
Maybe it is not that bad Farr. If Mayo get over Ros they could beat Kerry. They have been playing together every week for over a month. The Japanese knotweed defence is very good at strangling forwards.
I wonder how good the Dubs are too.
Quote from: Fuzzman on July 31, 2017, 11:25:41 AM
manfromdelmonte, I presume you didn't read the thread I started back during the league about what Keegan gets away with in games. I said time and time again the Mayo manager wastes arguably their best player by doing a man "marking" job on the other teams best player. He had scored 1.03 inside the first 25 mins yesterday yet Rochford still puts him back to mark Roscommon's best forward. Crazy stuff.
I tried to calmly discuss with the Mayo posters on here that he continually fouls his man and pulls and drags him to prevent them from making runs like he often can be seen doing v Diarmuid Connolly but alas nobody from Mayo could admit this and as you saw above it's just accepted that it's part of the game and the ref lets it go.
The problem is sometimes the refs do let it go with the excuse they want to let the game flow but like yourself, to me it a foul all day long and could be the difference between your time winning and losing. I blame the umpires to be honest for not drawing it to the refs attention.
Anyway, back to the game. I was amazed how much possession Ros just aimlessly kicked into the FF line as 50/50 balls rather than good kick passing into players chests or into space. Time and time again they gave away the ball and looked like this was their plan to beat the sweeper.
I thought against Cork, Coc, O'Shea and Diarmuid were very good but yesterday they all were poor.
You would expect them to win the replay but maybe Rossies will believe in themselves more now after a good performance in Croker.
Have to comment on some of the Rossie fans as well. We were in the premium where there was a good mix of fans from various counties. Two young Rossie fans came in at halftime and took two Kerry lads seats who had just left. They shouted and jeered every Mayo miss or bad pass and totally made themselves look like louts. Then the Mayo fans behind them reacted and the security lady had to some down and talk to them.
I can appreciate it was a big match for the Rossies against one of their biggest rivals in Croke park but I felt a lot of fans let themselves down yesterday and I've often felt the same about fans from my own county at times.
It cost Mayo a All Ireland last year putting Keegan FB in first game. No ball came into Connolly when he was Full Forward as Dublin were been cleaned out around the middle. If Keegan had been played further up the pitch that day Mayo would have won
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on July 31, 2017, 11:58:22 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/ySHoBYw.jpg)
the Lee Keegan method of marking
My GOD! The likes of that have never been seen on a football pitch before Keegan came along! Defender pulled forward's jersey - I never thought I'd see the day....
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on July 31, 2017, 11:58:22 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/ySHoBYw.jpg)
the Lee Keegan method of marking
the poor Rossies should have had a little more protection from that big bad Mayo man surely !
(https://www.sportsfile.com/winshare/w540/Library/SF836/1362696.jpg)
(https://www.sportsfile.com/winshare/w540/Library/SF836/1362697.jpg)
(https://www.sportsfile.com/winshare/w540/Library/SF836/1362698.jpg)
(https://www.sportsfile.com/winshare/w540/Library/SF836/1362482.jpg)
(https://www.sportsfile.com/winshare/w540/Library/SF836/1362483.jpg)
You might notice the ball is present in all those pictures. Good lad. I'm sure our players do it so a non issue for me.
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on July 31, 2017, 12:28:30 PM
You might notice the ball is present in all those pictures. Good lad. I'm sure our players do it so a non issue for me.
I don't think that allows you to tackle around the neck/face! ;D
Nobody said it did tubber. I wouldn't be as petty as to put up pics of mayo fouls. Those pictures were posted in reply to off the ball holding. They have no relevance. A non issue anyway either way.
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on July 31, 2017, 12:35:46 PM
Nobody said it did tubber. I wouldn't be as petty as to put up pics of mayo fouls. Those pictures were posted in reply to off the ball holding. They have no relevance. A non issue anyway either way.
Agreed!
- No Longer a Top 3 team.
Too much mileage.
Hanging on by a Thread.
Burnt out.
Badly managed.
Terrible defence.
No Forwards
Subs who contribute nothing.
Cynical
Overly Aggressive
Whining
Soft
Naive
Lacking marquee forwards.
Christ! How I love this Mayo team. Roll on Monday!
Quote from: mrhardyannual on July 31, 2017, 12:49:49 PM
- No Longer a Top 3 team.
Too much mileage.
Hanging on by a Thread.
Burnt out.
Badly managed.
Terrible defence.
No Forwards
Subs who contribute nothing.
Cynical
Overly Aggressive
Whining
Soft
Naive
Lacking marquee forwards.
Christ! How I love this Mayo team. Roll on Monday!
you for got no Strategy or tactics
Id love to hear on expert explain why this mayo team explain just what is so Damn good about them
Quote from: rosnarun on July 31, 2017, 12:57:37 PM
Quote from: mrhardyannual on July 31, 2017, 12:49:49 PM
- No Longer a Top 3 team.
Too much mileage.
Hanging on by a Thread.
Burnt out.
Badly managed.
Terrible defence.
No Forwards
Subs who contribute nothing.
Cynical
Overly Aggressive
Whining
Soft
Naive
Lacking marquee forwards.
Christ! How I love this Mayo team. Roll on Monday!
you for got no Strategy or tactics
Id love to hear on expert explain why this mayo team explain just what is so Damn good about them
Don't score goals!
Terrible full back line
Shite under the high ball
Can't win a game in Croker
Turn the ball over easily
It's a wonder we are not playing in Division four and on our Holidays from Intercounty Football every June?
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on July 31, 2017, 12:35:46 PM
Nobody said it did tubber. I wouldn't be as petty as to put up pics of mayo fouls. Those pictures were posted in reply to off the ball holding. They have no relevance. A non issue anyway either way.
I merely put them up for a wee bit of balance after belmonte's post.
Anyway bucks it all resumes at 2 o'clock on Monday.
By the sounds of things, the poor Syrians who came to the match in Mayo jersies must have been veryconfused by the abuse they received from the Rossie supporters
Quote from: whitey on July 31, 2017, 03:02:18 PM
By the sounds of things, the poor Syrians who came to the match in Mayo jersies must have been veryconfused by the abuse they received from the Rossie supporters
Having a Kerry man interview them at HT was confusing enough for them. Poor kid hadnt a clue what daithi was saying to her.
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on July 31, 2017, 03:08:15 PM
Quote from: whitey on July 31, 2017, 03:02:18 PM
By the sounds of things, the poor Syrians who came to the match in Mayo jersies must have been veryconfused by the abuse they received from the Rossie supporters
Having a Kerry man interview them at HT was confusing enough for them. Poor kid hadnt a clue what daithi was saying to her.
Eh? The kid knew what he said, she just got total stage fright when she saw herself on the big screen.
Quote from: Syferus on July 31, 2017, 03:21:18 PM
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on July 31, 2017, 03:08:15 PM
Quote from: whitey on July 31, 2017, 03:02:18 PM
By the sounds of things, the poor Syrians who came to the match in Mayo jersies must have been veryconfused by the abuse they received from the Rossie supporters
Having a Kerry man interview them at HT was confusing enough for them. Poor kid hadnt a clue what daithi was saying to her.
Eh? The kid knew what he said, she just got total stage fright when she saw herself on the big screen.
It was a bit like Mayo in an All Ireland Final ;D ;D
Quote from: Rudi on July 31, 2017, 04:14:51 PM
Quote from: Syferus on July 31, 2017, 03:21:18 PM
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on July 31, 2017, 03:08:15 PM
Quote from: whitey on July 31, 2017, 03:02:18 PM
By the sounds of things, the poor Syrians who came to the match in Mayo jersies must have been veryconfused by the abuse they received from the Rossie supporters
Having a Kerry man interview them at HT was confusing enough for them. Poor kid hadnt a clue what daithi was saying to her.
Eh? The kid knew what he said, she just got total stage fright when she saw herself on the big screen.
It was a bit like Mayo in an All Ireland Final ;D ;D
You're 11 years late with that one!
Quote from: Rossfan on July 31, 2017, 01:18:50 AM
Don't mind them Syfīn, we came of age today and proved we can play in Croke Park and compete with a top 3 team.
Heroism all around, great start , totally lost our way, better players didn't perform, came back and in a nip and tuck contest with one of the top teams held our own.
Proud of our gallant lads today and hoping they can apply the coup de gras to an ailing Mayowestros outfit the next day.
By the way the whinging on the mayoblog is amusing.
Also seems inebriated Rhubarbs were fighting among themselves on trains tonight.
Ah well....
Not that I think all Rossies are like this but four 16yos beat up a mayo lad in front my sister, the man was in his 60s, saw pictures of his face afterwards, disgraceful. drunk as lords but the gaurds took them away
Quote from: Rossfan on July 31, 2017, 01:18:50 AM
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Proud of our gallant lads today and hoping they can apply the coup de gras to an ailing Mayowestros outfit the next day.
By the way the whinging on the mayoblog is amusing.
Also seems inebriated Rhubarbs were fighting among themselves on trains tonight.
Ah well....
As in
foie gras? I suppose the lads could do with a bit of fattening up indeed! :P ;)
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on July 31, 2017, 04:52:53 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 31, 2017, 01:18:50 AM
Don't mind them Syfīn, we came of age today and proved we can play in Croke Park and compete with a top 3 team.
Heroism all around, great start , totally lost our way, better players didn't perform, came back and in a nip and tuck contest with one of the top teams held our own.
Proud of our gallant lads today and hoping they can apply the coup de gras to an ailing Mayowestros outfit the next day.
By the way the whinging on the mayoblog is amusing.
Also seems inebriated Rhubarbs were fighting among themselves on trains tonight.
Ah well....
Not that I think all Rossies are like this but four 16yos beat up a mayo lad in front my sister, the man was in his 60s, saw pictures of his face afterwards, disgraceful. drunk as lords but the gaurds took them away
Mayo people really are reaching deep into the barrel on social media and here post-match. Get the fúck on with the football.
Quote from: Syferus on July 31, 2017, 05:04:19 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on July 31, 2017, 04:52:53 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 31, 2017, 01:18:50 AM
Don't mind them Syfīn, we came of age today and proved we can play in Croke Park and compete with a top 3 team.
Heroism all around, great start , totally lost our way, better players didn't perform, came back and in a nip and tuck contest with one of the top teams held our own.
Proud of our gallant lads today and hoping they can apply the coup de gras to an ailing Mayowestros outfit the next day.
By the way the whinging on the mayoblog is amusing.
Also seems inebriated Rhubarbs were fighting among themselves on trains tonight.
Ah well....
Not that I think all Rossies are like this but four 16yos beat up a mayo lad in front my sister, the man was in his 60s, saw pictures of his face afterwards, disgraceful. drunk as lords but the gaurds took them away
Mayo people really are reaching deep into the barrel on social media and here post-match. Get the fúck on with the football.
Haha....I told you there'd be war on the train.Trains are like late night kebab shops....avoid unless you want a belt in the puss.
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on July 31, 2017, 04:56:51 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 31, 2017, 01:18:50 AM
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Proud of our gallant lads today and hoping they can apply the coup de gras to an ailing Mayowestros outfit the next day.
By the way the whinging on the mayoblog is amusing.
Also seems inebriated Rhubarbs were fighting among themselves on trains tonight.
Ah well....
As in foie gras? I suppose the lads could do with a bit of fattening up indeed! :P ;)
might be something to.do with fat larry
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on July 31, 2017, 04:52:53 PM
Not that I think all Rossies are like this but four 16yos beat up a mayo lad in front my sister, the man was in his 60s, saw pictures of his face afterwards, disgraceful. drunk as lords but the gaurds took them away
Not half as disgraceful as your English teacher getting a regular pay cheque. ::)
If mayo are struggling at full back why didnt they try conor o shea there during the league he has the height and am sure could be converted to fullback, as for forwards Mayo have had 6yrs to find corner forwards but come up with none
Played Dublin in croke park with almost a 1st choice team while Dublin played several youngsters. The senior players like Andy Moran should have been given time off in the league and the younger players introduced and given the chance to get match experience. Instead they are still relying on the same players and were bringing on defenders for forwards at the end
Mayo's coaching and management does make you wonder. Maybe the main core of players have crept on a little too far in terms of years, but apart from Keegan and Boyle, when the rest of them cross the halfway line you can almost hear them getting confused (Stephen says keep it, Donal says run with it, Tony says kick it... so what am I to do?).
They're all smarter football men than me but if they could maybe just settle in on a preferred attacking style (which, if best performances over the past 5 years are any indication, would be to run like the clappers at the opposition and let Andy/Cillian come around the shoulder), then they will take Roscommon easily enough. Rossies are a spirited bunch, but Mayo's defence is surely too experienced at marking better players to allow them a big tally.
Seeing as I'm handing advice out to those who do know better, also
start Parsons, see if Andy can last 70 mins, and keep Vaughan the feck away.
Watched the game back there, dunno how Cillian missed those last few chances, one in particular was simple enough. That said, roscommon missed some handy chances in the first half.
I thought we struggled a bit at MF, on at least two occasions Clarke went long and roscommon claimed the ball unchallenged, how can that happen with the amount of big men we have around the middle? Parsons not starting but then deemed fit enough to start was a strange one.
We seemed to give an unbelievable amount of stray passes, it looked like players were tired which probably isn't surprising considering the amount of games we've had.
Would we be better starting Loftus and playing Cillian as a half forward to give us a bit more up front?
Quote from: macdanger2 on July 31, 2017, 09:01:20 PM
Watched the game back there, dunno how Cillian missed those last few chances, one in particular was simple enough. That said, roscommon missed some handy chances in the first half.
I thought we struggled a bit at MF, on at least two occasions Clarke went long and roscommon claimed the ball unchallenged, how can that happen with the amount of big men we have around the middle? Parsons not starting but then deemed fit enough to start was a strange one.
We seemed to give an unbelievable amount of stray passes, it looked like players were tired which probably isn't surprising considering the amount of games we've had.
Would we be better starting Loftus and playing Cillian as a half forward to give us a bit more up front?
Roscommon's midfield is way more mobile than Mayo's, that's why. Parsons doesn't solve those problems.
COC hasn't the workrate for a HF.
Cillian doesn't have the work rate for a HF? Are you for real? He's one of the hardest working forwards around ffs.
How exactly does the mobility of the roscommon MF explain why we lost two of our own kickouts unchallenged?? :o
Quote from: macdanger2 on July 31, 2017, 09:19:09 PM
Cillian doesn't have the work rate for a HF? Are you for real? He's one of the hardest working forwards around ffs.
How exactly does the mobility of the roscommon MF explain why we lost two of our own kickouts unchallenged?? :o
It's very easy for the faster guy to position himself under a wayaward kick before players with the turning radius of small trucks like the O'Sheas.
Until COC suddenly becomes faster and he learns how to tackle he's a serious liability tracking back. He's starting to pick up the reputation for dirt that he has had here and in Dublin for years on a national scale now, so his room for collar tackles and body checks is becoming much lower. If you really think he can mark someone like Conor Devanney or Sean Mulholly go right ahead but McStay will look at COC's channel as an open invitation to attack.
Quote from: Syferus on July 31, 2017, 09:23:04 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on July 31, 2017, 09:19:09 PM
Cillian doesn't have the work rate for a HF? Are you for real? He's one of the hardest working forwards around ffs.
How exactly does the mobility of the roscommon MF explain why we lost two of our own kickouts unchallenged?? :o
It's very easy for the faster guy to position himself under a wayaward kick before players with the turning radius of small trucks like the O'Sheas.
Until COC suddenly becomes faster and he learns how to tackle he's a serious liability tracking back. He's starting to pick up the reputation for dirt that he has had here and in Dublin for years on a national scale now, so his room for collar tackles and body checks is becoming much lower. If you really think he can mark someone like Conor Devanney or Sean Mulholly go right ahead but McStay will look at COC's channel as an open invitation to attack.
Have Roscommon morphed into some sort of a footballing stronghold recently ?
I must have missed that bit.
To be fair that was the best chance you'll have get of being in an all ireland semi final maybe ever.
A cold hard ruthess anaylsis would say you blew a huge opportunity against a Mayo team who played Keegan aside as poorly as they possibly could.
Where are all these great forwards Roscommon are supposed to have?
That's exactly my point, we shouldn't have wayward kickouts, nothing to do with mobility.
Cillian is slow alright but he's a decent tackler as evidenced by the amount of turnovers he wins. He's also our best passer and would be able to feed the men inside. He could rotate with Loftus as needed. With himself, Andy and Loftus on the pitch, we'd have a much bigger scoring threat.
Quote from: macdanger2 on July 31, 2017, 09:35:30 PM
That's exactly my point, we shouldn't have wayward kickouts, nothing to do with mobility.
Cillian is slow alright but he's a decent tackler as evidenced by the amount of turnovers he wins. He's also our best passer and would be able to feed the men inside. He could rotate with Loftus as needed. With himself, Andy and Loftus on the pitch, we'd have a much bigger scoring threat.
If you had a real scoring forward line Andy would be the impact sub off the bench.
Quote from: INDIANA on July 31, 2017, 09:37:15 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on July 31, 2017, 09:35:30 PM
That's exactly my point, we shouldn't have wayward kickouts, nothing to do with mobility.
Cillian is slow alright but he's a decent tackler as evidenced by the amount of turnovers he wins. He's also our best passer and would be able to feed the men inside. He could rotate with Loftus as needed. With himself, Andy and Loftus on the pitch, we'd have a much bigger scoring threat.
If you had a real scoring forward line Andy would be the impact sub off the bench.
Agreed but it's not like there's a whole bunch of top quality inside forwards who are just being ignored.
Quote from: macdanger2 on July 31, 2017, 09:43:35 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on July 31, 2017, 09:37:15 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on July 31, 2017, 09:35:30 PM
That's exactly my point, we shouldn't have wayward kickouts, nothing to do with mobility.
Cillian is slow alright but he's a decent tackler as evidenced by the amount of turnovers he wins. He's also our best passer and would be able to feed the men inside. He could rotate with Loftus as needed. With himself, Andy and Loftus on the pitch, we'd have a much bigger scoring threat.
If you had a real scoring forward line Andy would be the impact sub off the bench.
Agreed but it's not like there's a whole bunch of top quality inside forwards who are just being ignored.
Conor Loftus gives a decent impersonation of one quite regularly but it seems being able to score is an optional extra in Mayo
Yeah, I'd like to see him starting
Quote from: INDIANA on July 31, 2017, 09:30:37 PM
Quote from: Syferus on July 31, 2017, 09:23:04 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on July 31, 2017, 09:19:09 PM
Cillian doesn't have the work rate for a HF? Are you for real? He's one of the hardest working forwards around ffs.
How exactly does the mobility of the roscommon MF explain why we lost two of our own kickouts unchallenged?? :o
It's very easy for the faster guy to position himself under a wayaward kick before players with the turning radius of small trucks like the O'Sheas.
Until COC suddenly becomes faster and he learns how to tackle he's a serious liability tracking back. He's starting to pick up the reputation for dirt that he has had here and in Dublin for years on a national scale now, so his room for collar tackles and body checks is becoming much lower. If you really think he can mark someone like Conor Devanney or Sean Mulholly go right ahead but McStay will look at COC's channel as an open invitation to attack.
Have Roscommon morphed into some sort of a footballing stronghold recently ?
I must have missed that bit.
To be fair that was the best chance you'll have get of being in an all ireland semi final maybe ever.
A cold hard ruthess anaylsis would say you blew a huge opportunity against a Mayo team who played Keegan aside as poorly as they possibly could.
Where are all these great forwards Roscommon are supposed to have?
Yet scored more in their senior championship debut in Croke Park against Mayo than Dublin's fancy dan's did in the All-Ireland last year...
Quote from: weareros on July 31, 2017, 10:08:52 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on July 31, 2017, 09:30:37 PM
Quote from: Syferus on July 31, 2017, 09:23:04 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on July 31, 2017, 09:19:09 PM
Cillian doesn't have the work rate for a HF? Are you for real? He's one of the hardest working forwards around ffs.
How exactly does the mobility of the roscommon MF explain why we lost two of our own kickouts unchallenged?? :o
It's very easy for the faster guy to position himself under a wayaward kick before players with the turning radius of small trucks like the O'Sheas.
Until COC suddenly becomes faster and he learns how to tackle he's a serious liability tracking back. He's starting to pick up the reputation for dirt that he has had here and in Dublin for years on a national scale now, so his room for collar tackles and body checks is becoming much lower. If you really think he can mark someone like Conor Devanney or Sean Mulholly go right ahead but McStay will look at COC's channel as an open invitation to attack.
Have Roscommon morphed into some sort of a footballing stronghold recently ?
I must have missed that bit.
To be fair that was the best chance you'll have get of being in an all ireland semi final maybe ever.
A cold hard ruthess anaylsis would say you blew a huge opportunity against a Mayo team who played Keegan aside as poorly as they possibly could.
Where are all these great forwards Roscommon are supposed to have?
Yet scored more in their senior championship debut in Croke Park against Mayo than Dublin's fancy dan's did in the All-Ireland last year...
I seem to recall picking up a trophy at the end of it though..............
I find some of Rochford decision making bizarre at times, it's almost like he has pre ordained substitutions in mind before the match starts. Like subbing Boyle yesterday made no sense, taking Moran off in the Connacht final, starting Hennelly in last years AI final replay there are several instances of poor decision making. I think Mayo will get over Roscommon as the better side generally tends to prevail in replays but I think that will be as far as they get this year.
Quote from: yellowcard on July 31, 2017, 10:36:14 PM
I find some of Rochford decision making bizarre at times, it's almost like he has pre ordained substitutions in mind before the match starts. Like subbing Boyle yesterday made no sense, taking Moran off in the Connacht final, starting Hennelly in last years AI final replay there are several instances of poor decision making. I think Mayo will get over Roscommon as the better side generally tends to prevail in replays but I think that will be as far as they get this year.
The better side
always prevails.
Quote from: macdanger2 on July 31, 2017, 09:19:09 PM
Cillian doesn't have the work rate for a HF? Are you for real? He's one of the hardest working forwards around ffs.
agreed
goes around looking to belt lads and fall onto lads with his knees
Quote from: Syferus on July 31, 2017, 10:49:03 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on July 31, 2017, 10:36:14 PM
I find some of Rochford decision making bizarre at times, it's almost like he has pre ordained substitutions in mind before the match starts. Like subbing Boyle yesterday made no sense, taking Moran off in the Connacht final, starting Hennelly in last years AI final replay there are several instances of poor decision making. I think Mayo will get over Roscommon as the better side generally tends to prevail in replays but I think that will be as far as they get this year.
The better side always prevails.
Football is psychological. Kerry aren't always the best team in matches they win.
I see a few know alls have us written off again.
Getting kind of used to it now.
Bookies are at it again too- we were 4/1 v Galway, round 3/1 last Sunday and 11/4 next week.
Wouldn't you think we'd know our place and just feckin lose so the media's big friends can get on with sorting out the All Ireland without us lads from Ireland's Gaza Strip fcukn things up.
Quote from: Rossfan on July 31, 2017, 11:11:52 PM
I see a few know alls have us written off again.
Getting kind of used to it now.
Bookies are at it again too- we were 4/1 v Galway, round 3/1 last Sunday and 11/4 next week.
Wouldn't you think we'd know our place and just feckin lose so the media's big friends can get on with sorting out the All Ireland without us lads from Ireland's Gaza Strip fcukn things up.
Colm Keys was complaining about us ruining Mayo's three weeks of rest for the Kerry game in the Indo today. There's only one way to make them learn their lesson.
Quote from: yellowcard on July 31, 2017, 10:36:14 PM
I find some of Rochford decision making bizarre at times, it's almost like he has pre ordained substitutions in mind before the match starts. Like subbing Boyle yesterday made no sense, taking Moran off in the Connacht final, starting Hennelly in last years AI final replay there are several instances of poor decision making. I think Mayo will get over Roscommon as the better side generally tends to prevail in replays but I think that will be as far as they get this year.
Totally agree. No way should he have taken Moran off...idc what age he is. He'd scored a point then was out in front and laid a ball off...1 minute later he was taken off...totally preordained as he is over 30. Totally wrong as Mayo wouldve been in a semi if he'd stayed on
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This has been doing the rounds on Facebook!
***TO ALL ROSCOMMON AND MAYO SUPPORTERS...JUST AN IDEA WE COULD ALL RUN WITH NEXT MONDAY IN CROKE PARK...IT JUST TAKES A MINUTE TO READ...LIKE AND SHARE THIS POST IF YOU AGREE...
In the 7th minute of next Monday's game, we're asking Roscommon and Mayo supporters to give our players a round of applause - a gesture which will also serve to condemn the booing and the verbal abuse of all players.
In this photo, Mayo players Willie Joe Padden and Eugene Lavin lift Dermot Earley shoulder high after the final whistle in the 1985 Connacht SFC final. Mayo won with a bit to spare but that moment of mutual respect and appreciation doesn't get much better. We want to send out this same message to all supporters when it comes to watching games involving their team and opposing teams.
The legendary Dermot Earley passed away in 2010, seven years ago, and we're suggesting that the collective round of applause for Mayo and Roscommon players should take place in the 7th minute of next Monday's game in Croke Park.
What better way to send out the message far and wide that we all condemn the booing and verbal abuse of our amateur players who fill us with such pride and provide so much excitement for all of us.
Nice thought but it's the day trippers and teenagers from both counties that will do it regardless.
It's a part of the sport whatever way you try to cut it, but the Mayo whiter than white attitude was severely embarrassing because I sat there in Croke Park and watched Mayo supporters boo every possession by Diarmuid Connolly and he did far less to roil up the opposition than Andy did. I think Andy may well have gotten a great reception from Roscommon supporters when he retired but he sank that ship with his childishness in January. I won't lie and say I didn't take a bit of extra enjoyment from Niall Mc making him look his age yesterday.
I only care about the result, not if someone boos or doesn't boo a player or decision.
Quote from: Syferus on July 31, 2017, 10:49:03 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on July 31, 2017, 10:36:14 PM
I find some of Rochford decision making bizarre at times, it's almost like he has pre ordained substitutions in mind before the match starts. Like subbing Boyle yesterday made no sense, taking Moran off in the Connacht final, starting Hennelly in last years AI final replay there are several instances of poor decision making. I think Mayo will get over Roscommon as the better side generally tends to prevail in replays but I think that will be as far as they get this year.
The better side always prevails.
If that was the case, Syf Mayo would be the current AI champions!
Quote from: Syferus on August 01, 2017, 01:45:06 AM
Nice thought but it's the day trippers and teenagers from both counties that will do it regardless.
It's a part of the sport whatever way you try to cut it, but the Mayo whiter than white attitude was severely embarrassing because I sat there in Croke Park and watched Mayo supporters boo every possession by Diarmuid Connolly and he did far less to roil up the opposition than Andy did. I think Andy may well have gotten a great reception from Roscommon supporters when he retired but he sank that ship with his childishness in January. I won't lie and say I didn't take a bit of extra enjoyment from Niall Mc making him look his age yesterday.
I only care about the result, not if someone boos or doesn't boo a player or decision.
Not being funny Syf but how would you know about protocol in Croke Park being from a county that gets to the business end about once a decade? I have been to CP many times and I never saw abuse of the opposing team by the fans in the stands or of the opposing fans outside the ground. You would be very disappointed maybe. One of the things that distinguishes the GAA from soccer is the mutual respect angle. It is more like rugby in that regard.
I remember being in Edinburgh at a match between Hibs and Celtic, the 2 Irish teams. The fans had to be segregated wth a huge police effort.
Quote from: Syferus on August 01, 2017, 01:45:06 AM
I won't lie and say I didn't take a bit of extra enjoyment from Niall Mc making him look his age yesterday
Not a vintage display by Andy but he still managed more points from play than any other forward on the pitch
Quote from: seafoid on August 01, 2017, 04:33:42 AM
Quote from: Syferus on August 01, 2017, 01:45:06 AM
Nice thought but it's the day trippers and teenagers from both counties that will do it regardless.
It's a part of the sport whatever way you try to cut it, but the Mayo whiter than white attitude was severely embarrassing because I sat there in Croke Park and watched Mayo supporters boo every possession by Diarmuid Connolly and he did far less to roil up the opposition than Andy did. I think Andy may well have gotten a great reception from Roscommon supporters when he retired but he sank that ship with his childishness in January. I won't lie and say I didn't take a bit of extra enjoyment from Niall Mc making him look his age yesterday.
I only care about the result, not if someone boos or doesn't boo a player or decision.
Not being funny Syf but how would you know about protocol in Croke Park being from a county that gets to the business end about once a decade? I have been to CP many times and I never saw abuse of the opposing team by the fans in the stands or of the opposing fans outside the ground. You would be very disappointed maybe. One of the things that distinguishes the GAA from soccer is the mutual respect angle. It is more like rugby in that regard.
I remember being in Edinburgh at a match between Hibs and Celtic, the 2 Irish teams. The fans had to be segregated wth a huge police effort.
Have all the Mayo people slating Roscommon fans for booing Andy Moran forgotten all about the All Ireland semi final replay in 2015 when Diarmuid Connolly was booed every time he got the ball. Talk about hypocrisy. Can't have it both ways. Might want to look at your own fans actions before having a go at anybody else.
Also before people start hammering Dublin fans, yes they boo freetakers (just like all the other counties do to Dublin freetakers)
On to next Monday -
Will the Mayowestros slide continue?
Will we continue to grow as a team?
Have we blown our chance?
Can we cope with 2 big games in 8 days?
A new experience for us , old hat to the Rhubarbs.
All to play for.
I thought we would win this by a half dozen unless something odd happened, like going down to 13 men. This didn't happen but Ross had plenty of help once again on the sideline from all the Mayo's!
Effectively, once again, SR has proven that he is way out of his depth. Taking off Moran and Boyle once again, what's the reason for this? Parsons didn't look injured to me.
Slow start again? Where is the Horan Era blitz gone at the start of these games?
No midfield back up and no coordinated pressing in on Lavin at any stage.
As others have been saying it's time next week for fresh legs like Regan, Coen, Boland and Loftus starting. Based on form and despite some of his flaws Donie also deserves a start.
The decisions on the line are beyond ridiculous at this stage but at least now the national media are now copping on to it and coming out with criticism.
Fair dues to Ross, I thought we would pull clear in the 2nd half but those 1st two points after half time knocked us back. Only for the fact that Leroy, Higgins, Boyle, Clarke, Vaughan and Harrison played to their full potential I think we would have been beaten. The rest of the lads looked knackered and by the 50th minute were gasping.
I still think we will win but the reason this time is whatever training we did last week didn't work so we should be able to tweak this. Someone in the backroom team needs to get the fresh lads on the field the next day to be starting.
Quote from: highorlow on July 28, 2017, 11:07:40 PM
Anyone talking up Ross chances here is either spoofing or knows nothing.
We will have this won by the 60th minute unless something bizarre happens like we get 2 men sent off.
::)
Quote from: seafoid on August 01, 2017, 04:33:42 AM
Quote from: Syferus on August 01, 2017, 01:45:06 AM
Nice thought but it's the day trippers and teenagers from both counties that will do it regardless.
It's a part of the sport whatever way you try to cut it, but the Mayo whiter than white attitude was severely embarrassing because I sat there in Croke Park and watched Mayo supporters boo every possession by Diarmuid Connolly and he did far less to roil up the opposition than Andy did. I think Andy may well have gotten a great reception from Roscommon supporters when he retired but he sank that ship with his childishness in January. I won't lie and say I didn't take a bit of extra enjoyment from Niall Mc making him look his age yesterday.
I only care about the result, not if someone boos or doesn't boo a player or decision.
Not being funny Syf but how would you know about protocol in Croke Park being from a county that gets to the business end about once a decade? I have been to CP many times and I never saw abuse of the opposing team by the fans in the stands or of the opposing fans outside the ground. You would be very disappointed maybe. One of the things that distinguishes the GAA from soccer is the mutual respect angle. It is more like rugby in that regard.
I remember being in Edinburgh at a match between Hibs and Celtic, the 2 Irish teams. The fans had to be segregated wth a huge police effort.
You are talking out of your hole
I have seen plenty of abuse dished out at Croke Park over the years
I have also seen Dublin fan get punched by a Kerry fan
but that is a rare thing in GAA
Seafood you talk fierce shite. Go to the races. Leave the football to the neighbours.
Quote from: highorlow on August 01, 2017, 10:33:28 AM
Effectively, once again, SR has proven that he is way out of his depth. Taking off Moran and Boyle once again, what's the reason for this? Parsons didn't look injured to me.
The decisions on the line are beyond ridiculous at this stage but at least now the national media are now copping on to it and coming out with criticism.
I wonder is there an issue with Boyle, has he a problem with his ankle? the Parsons call was probably tactical, SR had planned to put Keegan on Smith and probably new Seamie wouldn't last so Parsons was his backup. At least we ended the match with our best midfielder on the pitch. If we won we might had a different view on these decisions?
QuoteIf we won we might had a different view on these decisions?
We would have won but for these decisions.
Parsons should have started. Vaughan is more than good enough to replace Seamie.
This is every single championship game now where the line has messed up yet they remain unaccountable. Yourself and a few more spies in here are always coming to their defense. It's just not good enough.
Quote from: Rudi on August 01, 2017, 11:29:08 AM
Seafood you talk fierce shite. Go to the races. Leave the football to the neighbours.
Rudi, we are verra generous. We didn't stand in Mayo's way for 5 years and they won nothing.
Don't flop at the quarter-final stage this year either. If you think you are good enough go for Sam.
But you would have to win a good few to knock Galway of the perch.
Quote from: highorlow on August 01, 2017, 11:55:36 AM
QuoteIf we won we might had a different view on these decisions?
This is every single championship game now where the line has messed up yet they remain unaccountable. Yourself and a few more spies in here are always coming to their defense. It's just not good enough.
That's just my opinion on possible reasons for these decisions. I wasn't trying to defend it
Quote from: seafoid on August 01, 2017, 12:06:19 PM
Quote from: Rudi on August 01, 2017, 11:29:08 AM
Seafood you talk fierce shite. Go to the races. Leave the football to the neighbours.
Rudi, we are verra generous. We didn't stand in Mayo's way for 5 years and they won nothing.
Don't flop at the quarter-final stage this year either. If you think you are good enough go for Sam.
But you would have to win a good few to knock Galway of the perch.
Thursday - ladies day - just saying ;D ;D
Am I the only person on here who thinks Barrett should be corner back for the next game? Move Higgins to number 6. That would probably mean having McLoughlin acting as a sweeper if Higgins goes forward, it could also allow him to help Caff if he is in bother at fullback.
Quote from: Rudi on August 01, 2017, 12:27:10 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 01, 2017, 12:06:19 PM
Quote from: Rudi on August 01, 2017, 11:29:08 AM
Seafood you talk fierce shite. Go to the races. Leave the football to the neighbours.
Rudi, we are verra generous. We didn't stand in Mayo's way for 5 years and they won nothing.
Don't flop at the quarter-final stage this year either. If you think you are good enough go for Sam.
But you would have to win a good few to knock Galway of the perch.
Thursday - ladies day - just saying ;D ;D
We are too focused on the hurling now
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 01, 2017, 08:43:40 AM
Quote from: Syferus on August 01, 2017, 01:45:06 AM
I won't lie and say I didn't take a bit of extra enjoyment from Niall Mc making him look his age yesterday
Not a vintage display by Andy but he still managed more points from play than any other forward on the pitch
AM played very well and only for one bad miss in the first half would have come off the field with 0-3 from play and a few assists. He is Mayo's best forward and he's movement is outstanding.
The boo-boys didn't bother Andy too much anyway
(http://www.mayonews.ie/images/stories/2017/08_aug_17/0108_andy-moran_1000.jpg)
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 01, 2017, 08:43:40 AM
Quote from: Syferus on August 01, 2017, 01:45:06 AM
I won't lie and say I didn't take a bit of extra enjoyment from Niall Mc making him look his age yesterday
Not a vintage display by Andy but he still managed more points from play than any other forward on the pitch
Ciarain scored a goal from play to Andy's two points, and that's assuming you're not counting Fintan as a midfielder when in fact he's a forward with 8 on his back.
Two points for all the ball that was sent into Andy was a poor return. It's one thing having the awareness to peel away and gather a pass that's coming to you but if the legs aren't there to buy a bit of space from your marker you're in trouble at this level.
Nice photo. The booing very disappointing to hear and witness but we have a section of support that boo opposition free takers etc at times as well. The treatment Andy got IMO is very low as is directed against him personally. Anyone that knows him will speak of a genuinely good guy who has time for everyone.
Quote from: PW Nally on August 01, 2017, 02:48:47 PM
Nice photo. The booing very disappointing to hear and witness but we have a section of support that boo opposition free takers etc at times as well. The treatment Andy got IMO is very low as is directed against him personally. Anyone that knows him will speak of a genuinely good guy who has time for everyone.
Andy is a grand person, talks to everyone and is good natured, but he brought it on himself with his antics in January. He's a man in his middle 30s, he should have known far better. The booing only started because of his own actions. I do not have sympathy for his plight even if I don't like the booing itself.
Quote from: Syferus on August 01, 2017, 03:01:31 PM
Quote from: PW Nally on August 01, 2017, 02:48:47 PM
Nice photo. The booing very disappointing to hear and witness but we have a section of support that boo opposition free takers etc at times as well. The treatment Andy got IMO is very low as is directed against him personally. Anyone that knows him will speak of a genuinely good guy who has time for everyone.
Andy is a grand person, talks to everyone and is good natured, but he brought it on himself with his antics in January. He's a man in his middle 30s, he should have known far better. The booing only started because of his own actions. I do not have sympathy for his plight even if I don't like the booing itself.
Maybe you should take heed of your hero's brother and show a bit of cop-on and maturity
http://www.mayonews.ie/sports/30491-paul-earley-slams-rossies-who-booed-moran (http://www.mayonews.ie/sports/30491-paul-earley-slams-rossies-who-booed-moran)
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FORMER Roscommon All Star Paul Earley says he was 'ashamed and disappointed' by 'the small minority' of supporters from his county who booed Mayo's Andy Moran during last Sunday's All-Ireland SFC quarter-final at Croke Park.
Moran, who is a native of Ballaghaderreen in county Roscommon, was booed by some opposition fans every time he touched the ball.
The volume and frequency of the jeering seemed to increase in the second half, and continued until Moran was replaced in the 58th minute.
"I was ashamed and disappointed to hear some Roscommon supporters booing Andy," Earley told The Mayo News.
"That's now what the GAA is about and it wasn't good enough.
"There's an onus on people, players and supporters, to respect each other."
There has been suggestions that some Roscommon fans decided to single out Mayo's most-capped footballer for verbal abuse last Sunday because of an incident in the FBD Connacht League match between the counties in Kiltoom back in January.
Moran came off the bench that day to score a late goal which won the game for Mayo, and he celebrated by kissing the Mayo GAA crest on his jersey in front of some Roscommon fans.
However, Paul Earley said that there was no excuse for the behaviour of those involved in the booing of Moran on Sunday.
"I don't care what Andy Moran did or didn't do during an FBD League match back in January, he didn't deserve to be booed during a championship match in Croke Park," said the former Ireland International Rules manager.
"It was bad form, very unsporting, and not something that anybody from Roscommon should want to be associated with."
Quote from: Tubberman on August 01, 2017, 03:12:32 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 01, 2017, 03:01:31 PM
Quote from: PW Nally on August 01, 2017, 02:48:47 PM
Nice photo. The booing very disappointing to hear and witness but we have a section of support that boo opposition free takers etc at times as well. The treatment Andy got IMO is very low as is directed against him personally. Anyone that knows him will speak of a genuinely good guy who has time for everyone.
Andy is a grand person, talks to everyone and is good natured, but he brought it on himself with his antics in January. He's a man in his middle 30s, he should have known far better. The booing only started because of his own actions. I do not have sympathy for his plight even if I don't like the booing itself.
Maybe you should take heed of your hero's brother and show a bit of cop-on and maturity
http://www.mayonews.ie/sports/30491-paul-earley-slams-rossies-who-booed-moran (http://www.mayonews.ie/sports/30491-paul-earley-slams-rossies-who-booed-moran)
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FORMER Roscommon All Star Paul Earley says he was 'ashamed and disappointed' by 'the small minority' of supporters from his county who booed Mayo's Andy Moran during last Sunday's All-Ireland SFC quarter-final at Croke Park.
Moran, who is a native of Ballaghaderreen in county Roscommon, was booed by some opposition fans every time he touched the ball.
The volume and frequency of the jeering seemed to increase in the second half, and continued until Moran was replaced in the 58th minute.
"I was ashamed and disappointed to hear some Roscommon supporters booing Andy," Earley told The Mayo News.
"That's now what the GAA is about and it wasn't good enough.
"There's an onus on people, players and supporters, to respect each other."
There has been suggestions that some Roscommon fans decided to single out Mayo's most-capped footballer for verbal abuse last Sunday because of an incident in the FBD Connacht League match between the counties in Kiltoom back in January.
Moran came off the bench that day to score a late goal which won the game for Mayo, and he celebrated by kissing the Mayo GAA crest on his jersey in front of some Roscommon fans.
However, Paul Earley said that there was no excuse for the behaviour of those involved in the booing of Moran on Sunday.
"I don't care what Andy Moran did or didn't do during an FBD League match back in January, he didn't deserve to be booed during a championship match in Croke Park," said the former Ireland International Rules manager.
"It was bad form, very unsporting, and not something that anybody from Roscommon should want to be associated with."
Anyone talking of shame, be it Martin Carney or Paul Earley are buying into a non-story. I have so little interest in if Andy is booed or not it isn't even funny. It has no material effect on anything.
Better that Mayo supporters worry about things like that than their own impending doom, I guess.
Glad to see Paul Earley condemning it, the idea that Andy brought it on himself is nonsense.
Behaviour of the lowest class and anyone who condones it has zero class also
Imagine the outpouring if Ros bate Mayo. It would put the death of Lassie in the ha'penny place.
https://youtu.be/o2ZiIPEorP0
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 01, 2017, 03:24:38 PM
Glad to see Paul Earley condemning it, the idea that Andy brought it on himself is nonsense.
Behaviour of the lowest class and anyone who condones it has zero class also
Again no analysis of the game, which was not high in quality, but very entertaining none the less. Its a moan fest by the Mayo ones, next week what will it be, God only knows. Yer an awful shower of whingers. People are sick of all the doom and whinging coming from Mayo. Is it all lonely house-wives on here and the Mayo Gaa Blog with nothing better to do?
This is about Galway hurlers but would also fit Mayo ...
"Galway is unusual in that a fair portion of their supporters tend to be both hugely demanding and deeply pessimistic, creating a uniquely difficult and pressured environment for a player to operate in."
Quote from: seafoid on August 01, 2017, 04:19:44 PM
This is about Galway hurlers but would also fit Mayo ...
"Galway is unusual in that a fair portion of their supporters tend to be both hugely demanding and deeply pessimistic, creating a uniquely difficult and pressured environment for a player to operate in."
I can tell you that it's never acceptable to be beaten by the likes of the Rossies even if we're on our last legs. Rochford has to go if we don't win the AI this year. Unfortunately our ladeens are f*cked and I can't see how we are going to be right in less than a week. Anyway our sideline will probably throw it away even if we manage to get 15 fit players on to the pitch.
Quote from: seafoid on August 01, 2017, 04:19:44 PM
This is about Galway hurlers but would also fit Mayo ...
"Galway is unusual in that a fair portion of their supporters tend to be both hugely demanding and deeply pessimistic, creating a uniquely difficult and pressured environment for a player to operate in."
You can add Galway footballers into that as well!
Quote from: Syferus on August 01, 2017, 03:24:20 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on August 01, 2017, 03:12:32 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 01, 2017, 03:01:31 PM
Quote from: PW Nally on August 01, 2017, 02:48:47 PM
Nice photo. The booing very disappointing to hear and witness but we have a section of support that boo opposition free takers etc at times as well. The treatment Andy got IMO is very low as is directed against him personally. Anyone that knows him will speak of a genuinely good guy who has time for everyone.
Andy is a grand person, talks to everyone and is good natured, but he brought it on himself with his antics in January. He's a man in his middle 30s, he should have known far better. The booing only started because of his own actions. I do not have sympathy for his plight even if I don't like the booing itself.
Maybe you should take heed of your hero's brother and show a bit of cop-on and maturity
http://www.mayonews.ie/sports/30491-paul-earley-slams-rossies-who-booed-moran (http://www.mayonews.ie/sports/30491-paul-earley-slams-rossies-who-booed-moran)
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FORMER Roscommon All Star Paul Earley says he was 'ashamed and disappointed' by 'the small minority' of supporters from his county who booed Mayo's Andy Moran during last Sunday's All-Ireland SFC quarter-final at Croke Park.
Moran, who is a native of Ballaghaderreen in county Roscommon, was booed by some opposition fans every time he touched the ball.
The volume and frequency of the jeering seemed to increase in the second half, and continued until Moran was replaced in the 58th minute.
"I was ashamed and disappointed to hear some Roscommon supporters booing Andy," Earley told The Mayo News.
"That's now what the GAA is about and it wasn't good enough.
"There's an onus on people, players and supporters, to respect each other."
There has been suggestions that some Roscommon fans decided to single out Mayo's most-capped footballer for verbal abuse last Sunday because of an incident in the FBD Connacht League match between the counties in Kiltoom back in January.
Moran came off the bench that day to score a late goal which won the game for Mayo, and he celebrated by kissing the Mayo GAA crest on his jersey in front of some Roscommon fans.
However, Paul Earley said that there was no excuse for the behaviour of those involved in the booing of Moran on Sunday.
"I don't care what Andy Moran did or didn't do during an FBD League match back in January, he didn't deserve to be booed during a championship match in Croke Park," said the former Ireland International Rules manager.
"It was bad form, very unsporting, and not something that anybody from Roscommon should want to be associated with."
Anyone talking of shame, be it Martin Carney or Paul Earley are buying into a non-story. I have so little interest in if Andy is booed or not it isn't even funny. It has no material effect on anything.
Better that Mayo supporters worry about things like that than their own impending doom, I guess.
But its not a non story........a member of Rossie Royalty just wrote that it was disgraceful....in black and white
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 01, 2017, 05:02:40 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 01, 2017, 04:19:44 PM
This is about Galway hurlers but would also fit Mayo ...
"Galway is unusual in that a fair portion of their supporters tend to be both hugely demanding and deeply pessimistic, creating a uniquely difficult and pressured environment for a player to operate in."
You can add Galway footballers into that as well!
I don't think they are the same actually. If they have a good team they win
The hurlers and mayo are nihilistic soul mates. So many all Ireland finals lost. Here we go again. I knew it.
I would say the majority of Roscommon supporters have condemned the booing by a minority. Andy and his family are great people and the booing was never acceptable. However, what's a little aggravating is no recognition from the holier than thou Mayo fans (hello Martin Carney) of the booing on their side, which is also frequent at McHale park. They subjected Donie Smith to a full minute of jeers leading up to his free while Cillian O'Connor did not have to endure the same for his last minute free. They jeered nearly every decision by the ref, even jeered Cillian's yellow card when some neutral commentators saw it as a premeditated blow to the head that deserved red. To quote the great Willie Shakespare: physician heal thyself.
Quote from: Rossfan on August 01, 2017, 11:19:18 AM
Quote from: highorlow on July 28, 2017, 11:07:40 PM
Anyone talking up Ross chances here is either spoofing or knows nothing.
We will have this won by the 60th minute unless something bizarre happens like we get 2 men sent off.
::)
Was Highorlow serious or was he just looking for a cheap rise?
As i said before Sundays game the only way Roscommon will be beaten by a large margin is for Roscommons to have a lack of preparation and not focused on the game more than anything Mayo would do.
Quote from: weareros on August 01, 2017, 06:12:49 PM
I would say the majority of Roscommon supporters have condemned the booing by a minority. Andy and his family are great people and the booing was never acceptable. However, what's a little aggravating is no recognition from the holier than thou Mayo fans (hello Martin Carney) of the booing on their side, which is also frequent at McHale park. They subjected Donie Smith to a full minute of jeers leading up to his free while Cillian O'Connor did not have to endure the same for his last minute free. They jeered nearly every decision by the ref, even jeered Cillian's yellow card when some neutral commentators saw it as a premeditated blow to the head that deserved red. To quote the great Willie Shakespare: physician heal thyself.
Agree in the main, really dislike the booing regardless of situation. Booing a free taker is nearly normalised at this stage unfortunately, booing an individual who plays the game as clean and fair as Andy is lowering the bar again.
Quote from: PW Nally on August 01, 2017, 07:06:42 PM
Quote from: weareros on August 01, 2017, 06:12:49 PM
I would say the majority of Roscommon supporters have condemned the booing by a minority. Andy and his family are great people and the booing was never acceptable. However, what's a little aggravating is no recognition from the holier than thou Mayo fans (hello Martin Carney) of the booing on their side, which is also frequent at McHale park. They subjected Donie Smith to a full minute of jeers leading up to his free while Cillian O'Connor did not have to endure the same for his last minute free. They jeered nearly every decision by the ref, even jeered Cillian's yellow card when some neutral commentators saw it as a premeditated blow to the head that deserved red. To quote the great Willie Shakespare: physician heal thyself.
Agree in the main, really dislike the booing regardless of situation. Booing a free taker is nearly normalised at this stage unfortunately, booing an individual who plays the game as clean and fair as Andy is lowering the bar again.
Mayo themselves did it to Diarmuid Connolly and he wasn't actively winding up the crowd. This is all part of the usual Mayo whinging narrative everyone is well used to at this stage, never any self-reflection, just whinge.
Anyone hazard a guess at the crowd?
A lot may have holidays booked and the Rhubarbs' pockets may be getting light after trips to Ennis, Limerick and Dublin in recent weeks.
Will game be on TV?.
I'll hazard a guess at 33k.
Saturdays games heading for a full house.
Quote from: Rossfan on August 01, 2017, 07:44:18 PM
Anyone hazard a guess at the crowd?
A lot may have holidays booked and the Rhubarbs' pockets may be getting light after trips to Ennis, Limerick and Dublin in recent weeks.
Will game be on TV?.
I'll hazard a guess at 33k.
Saturdays games heading for a full house.
Yes about half what was at Sundays game. Game is live on RTE again.
Quote from: Syferus on August 01, 2017, 07:22:33 PM
Quote from: PW Nally on August 01, 2017, 07:06:42 PM
Quote from: weareros on August 01, 2017, 06:12:49 PM
I would say the majority of Roscommon supporters have condemned the booing by a minority. Andy and his family are great people and the booing was never acceptable. However, what's a little aggravating is no recognition from the holier than thou Mayo fans (hello Martin Carney) of the booing on their side, which is also frequent at McHale park. They subjected Donie Smith to a full minute of jeers leading up to his free while Cillian O'Connor did not have to endure the same for his last minute free. They jeered nearly every decision by the ref, even jeered Cillian's yellow card when some neutral commentators saw it as a premeditated blow to the head that deserved red. To quote the great Willie Shakespare: physician heal thyself.
Agree in the main, really dislike the booing regardless of situation. Booing a free taker is nearly normalised at this stage unfortunately, booing an individual who plays the game as clean and fair as Andy is lowering the bar again.
Mayo themselves did it to Diarmuid Connolly and he wasn't actively winding up the crowd. This is all part of the usual Mayo whinging narrative everyone is well used to at this stage, never any self-reflection, just whinge.
That's the average football fan I afraid! To single out one group is short sighted. I personally think the whole booing thing has been over stated. Cheering (Jeering) antagonisingly at opposition players isn't much better and I don't hear anyone speaking up about that! It's part of what a player has to put up with. If he is strong enough it won't matter - if he is very strong it will drive him on!
Quote from: weareros on August 01, 2017, 06:12:49 PM
I would say the majority of Roscommon supporters have condemned the booing by a minority. Andy and his family are great people and the booing was never acceptable. However, what's a little aggravating is no recognition from the holier than thou Mayo fans (hello Martin Carney) of the booing on their side, which is also frequent at McHale park. They subjected Donie Smith to a full minute of jeers leading up to his free while Cillian O'Connor did not have to endure the same for his last minute free. They jeered nearly every decision by the ref, even jeered Cillian's yellow card when some neutral commentators saw it as a premeditated blow to the head that deserved red. To quote the great Willie Shakespare: physician heal thyself.
The booing from the mayo fans for Smith's free was very poor and doesn't reflect well on mayo fans at all.
Your point re Cillian is complete bollix though
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 01, 2017, 08:02:40 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 01, 2017, 07:22:33 PM
Quote from: PW Nally on August 01, 2017, 07:06:42 PM
Quote from: weareros on August 01, 2017, 06:12:49 PM
I would say the majority of Roscommon supporters have condemned the booing by a minority. Andy and his family are great people and the booing was never acceptable. However, what's a little aggravating is no recognition from the holier than thou Mayo fans (hello Martin Carney) of the booing on their side, which is also frequent at McHale park. They subjected Donie Smith to a full minute of jeers leading up to his free while Cillian O'Connor did not have to endure the same for his last minute free. They jeered nearly every decision by the ref, even jeered Cillian's yellow card when some neutral commentators saw it as a premeditated blow to the head that deserved red. To quote the great Willie Shakespare: physician heal thyself.
Agree in the main, really dislike the booing regardless of situation. Booing a free taker is nearly normalised at this stage unfortunately, booing an individual who plays the game as clean and fair as Andy is lowering the bar again.
Mayo themselves did it to Diarmuid Connolly and he wasn't actively winding up the crowd. This is all part of the usual Mayo whinging narrative everyone is well used to at this stage, never any self-reflection, just whinge.
That's the average football fan I afraid! To single out one group is short sighted. I personally think the whole booing thing has been over stated. Cheering (Jeering) antagonisingly at opposition players isn't much better and I don't hear anyone speaking up about that! It's part of what a player has to put up with. If he is strong enough it won't matter - if he is very strong it will drive him on!
I have to agree. Booing is nothing new and unfortunately it is getting more prevalent. Like sledging, it adds nothing to the game and says more about the character of the person who involves themselves in it than the target. Good players will ignore both. However, I won't be standing and clapping in the seventh minute no more than I'll be roaring at the behest of some self appointed cheerleader who decides to stand at some point in the game, roar" Mayo" and wonders aloud "Shout! f**k ye. What are ye here for?".
Quote from: Rudi on August 01, 2017, 04:16:22 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 01, 2017, 03:24:38 PM
Glad to see Paul Earley condemning it, the idea that Andy brought it on himself is nonsense.
Behaviour of the lowest class and anyone who condones it has zero class also
Again no analysis of the game, which was not high in quality, but very entertaining none the less. Its a moan fest by the Mayo ones, next week what will it be, God only knows. Yer an awful shower of whingers. People are sick of all the doom and whinging coming from Mayo. Is it all lonely house-wives on here and the Mayo Gaa Blog with nothing better to do?
You seem to be familiar enough with the whinging yourself there
Unlikely to happen but I'd like to see something like this starting:
Clarke
Harrison Vaughan Higgins
Boyle Barrett Durcan
Keegan Parsons
McLoughlin AOS COC
Andy Loftus Doc
Subs: SOS, Coen, DOC, Kirby, Nally, Boland
Lack of pace in the HF line would be a concern but with Doc and McLoughlin funnelling back and Aidan playing between the two 45s, I think we'd be ok
Quote from: Syferus on August 01, 2017, 07:22:33 PM
Quote from: PW Nally on August 01, 2017, 07:06:42 PM
Quote from: weareros on August 01, 2017, 06:12:49 PM
I would say the majority of Roscommon supporters have condemned the booing by a minority. Andy and his family are great people and the booing was never acceptable. However, what's a little aggravating is no recognition from the holier than thou Mayo fans (hello Martin Carney) of the booing on their side, which is also frequent at McHale park. They subjected Donie Smith to a full minute of jeers leading up to his free while Cillian O'Connor did not have to endure the same for his last minute free. They jeered nearly every decision by the ref, even jeered Cillian's yellow card when some neutral commentators saw it as a premeditated blow to the head that deserved red. To quote the great Willie Shakespare: physician heal thyself.
Agree in the main, really dislike the booing regardless of situation. Booing a free taker is nearly normalised at this stage unfortunately, booing an individual who plays the game as clean and fair as Andy is lowering the bar again.
Mayo themselves did it to Diarmuid Connolly and he wasn't actively winding up the crowd. This is all part of the usual Mayo whinging narrative everyone is well used to at this stage, never any self-reflection, just whinge.
Connolly seriously assaulted several Mayo players during the drawn game but didn't get pulled by the ref. When he was finally sent off after punching Keegan in the face mumerous times,he then issued threats to several Mayo players as he was exiting the field. I thought no the Mayo supporter had plenty of reason to boo him
http://www.gaaroscommon.ie/news-detail/10027247/?utm_content=bufferd0782&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer
Quote from: Rossfan on August 01, 2017, 09:55:51 PM
http://www.gaaroscommon.ie/news-detail/10027247/?utm_content=bufferd0782&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer
Classy statement, fair play to Roscommon. Very nice gesture to Andy & his family.
In other words STFU and stop embarrassing us
Hopefully the earlier throw in will give some of the thick asses less chance to get juiced up before the match.
Quote from: Rossfan on August 01, 2017, 09:55:51 PM
http://www.gaaroscommon.ie/news-detail/10027247/?utm_content=bufferd0782&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer
Well done Ros CB, players and management. Hope their requests are heeded. Let that be the end of it.
Quote from: Tubberman on August 01, 2017, 10:16:43 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 01, 2017, 09:55:51 PM
http://www.gaaroscommon.ie/news-detail/10027247/?utm_content=bufferd0782&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer
Well done Ros CB, players and management. Hope their requests are heeded. Let that be the end of it.
If our free-takers get abused by the Mayo supporters will we be seeing a press release from the neighbours next week?
Good PR turn by our CB, taking control of the nonsense narrative, but that's about it I'm afraid.
Quote from: whitey on August 01, 2017, 09:12:59 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 01, 2017, 07:22:33 PM
Quote from: PW Nally on August 01, 2017, 07:06:42 PM
Quote from: weareros on August 01, 2017, 06:12:49 PM
I would say the majority of Roscommon supporters have condemned the booing by a minority. Andy and his family are great people and the booing was never acceptable. However, what's a little aggravating is no recognition from the holier than thou Mayo fans (hello Martin Carney) of the booing on their side, which is also frequent at McHale park. They subjected Donie Smith to a full minute of jeers leading up to his free while Cillian O'Connor did not have to endure the same for his last minute free. They jeered nearly every decision by the ref, even jeered Cillian's yellow card when some neutral commentators saw it as a premeditated blow to the head that deserved red. To quote the great Willie Shakespare: physician heal thyself.
Agree in the main, really dislike the booing regardless of situation. Booing a free taker is nearly normalised at this stage unfortunately, booing an individual who plays the game as clean and fair as Andy is lowering the bar again.
Mayo themselves did it to Diarmuid Connolly and he wasn't actively winding up the crowd. This is all part of the usual Mayo whinging narrative everyone is well used to at this stage, never any self-reflection, just whinge.
Connolly seriously assaulted several Mayo players during the drawn game but didn't get pulled by the ref. When he was finally sent off after punching Keegan in the face mumerous times,he then issued threats to several Mayo players as he was exiting the field. I thought no the Mayo supporter had plenty of reason to boo him
Who were the Mayo players seriously assaulted by Connolly?? Connolly was pulled to the ground by Keegan who had grabbed him by the neck. Connolly then punched Keegan. Cillian O'Connor entered in as third man and hit Connolly a couple sly digs before highlighting to linesman that Connolly had hit Keegan. Connolly get his deserved red but why did Keegan escape a black card and O'Connor could easily got a red too
https://www.balls.ie/gaa/diarmuid-connollys-red-card-306887
Quote from: Rossfan on August 01, 2017, 09:55:51 PM
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That's a very gracious statement and it helps emphasise what sport should be all about. There are yobs following every county in the land and genuine Rossies are as sporting as you'll find anywhere. The actions of a few on Sunday can't be taken to represent them all.
Quote from: Syferus on August 01, 2017, 10:21:09 PM
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Well done Ros CB, players and management. Hope their requests are heeded. Let that be the end of it.
If our free-takers get abused by the Mayo supporters will we be seeing a press release from the neighbours next week?
Good PR turn by our CB, taking control of the nonsense narrative, but that's about it I'm afraid.
I don't know, I'm not the Mayo PRO, but I would hope there wouldn't be a need in any case.
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Well done Ros CB, players and management. Hope their requests are heeded. Let that be the end of it.
If our free-takers get abused by the Mayo supporters will we be seeing a press release from the neighbours next week?
Good PR turn by our CB, taking control of the nonsense narrative, but that's about it I'm afraid.
I don't know, I'm not the Mayo PRO, but I would hope there wouldn't be a need in any case.
Donie got a minute straight of it before his final free.
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Well done Ros CB, players and management. Hope their requests are heeded. Let that be the end of it.
If our free-takers get abused by the Mayo supporters will we be seeing a press release from the neighbours next week?
Good PR turn by our CB, taking control of the nonsense narrative, but that's about it I'm afraid.
I don't know, I'm not the Mayo PRO, but I would hope there wouldn't be a need in any case.
Donie got a minute straight of it before his final free.
You're intent on keeping the debate going anyway...
IMO, the booing that you're referring to was anger because the Mayo supporters didn't think the free should have been awarded. Still doesn't make it right,but it was for one incident - different to personal targeting of a player every time he was on the ball.
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Well done Ros CB, players and management. Hope their requests are heeded. Let that be the end of it.
If our free-takers get abused by the Mayo supporters will we be seeing a press release from the neighbours next week?
Good PR turn by our CB, taking control of the nonsense narrative, but that's about it I'm afraid.
I don't know, I'm not the Mayo PRO, but I would hope there wouldn't be a need in any case.
Donie got a minute straight of it before his final free.
You're intent on keeping the debate going anyway...
IMO, the booing that you're referring to was anger because the Mayo supporters didn't think the free should have been awarded. Still doesn't make it right,but it was for one incident - different to personal targeting of a player every time he was on the ball.
You don't keep booing for a minute until he kicks it just because a free was awarded. They were booing the free-taker, to say otherwise is absolutely stone cold ridiculous.
If you cant differentiate between booing a free kick and the systematic booing of a player every time he has the ball , youre ignorant .
I actually never witnessed it at a GAA match.
Quote from: larryin89 on August 02, 2017, 12:10:33 AM
If you cant differentiate between booing a free kick and the systematic booing of a player every time he has the ball , youre ignorant .
I actually never witnessed it at a GAA match.
It must suck for you that McStay totally deflated the Mayo whinge session with that statement. Nothing left to talk about besides a disintegrating team.
Quote from: Rossfan on August 01, 2017, 09:55:51 PM
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Big credit to the Rossies.
The booing was more likely from a small band of jarred up lads. I don't think our lads are whinging about it much.
You Sy, are now whinging because if we were whinging in the first place about it we now will stop because of the Roskie CB statement.
Ye should be more worried about Enda Smith limping off the field at the end rather than our supposed whinging.
Quote from: highorlow on August 02, 2017, 12:23:44 AM
The booing was more likely from a small band of jarred up lads. I don't think our lads are whinging about it much.
You Sy, are now whinging because if we were whinging in the first place about it we now will stop because of the Roskie CB statement.
Ye should be more worried about Enda Smith limping off the field at the end rather than our supposed whinging.
You mustn't visit MayoGAABlog, Midwest or Mayo GAA Banter or major national outlets much so.
Enda's no more hurt than Andy's feelings.
It's a pity the Mayo county board didn't apologise for the mayo fans booing Diarmuid Connolly in 2015.
Way too much being made of what happened on Sunday. I'd imagine Andy Moran is embarrassed by the attention it has gotten. I can only hope all the fury about booing from the mayo fans means that any roscommon player taking a free kick will be given silence from mayo fans as the self appointed defenders of moral integrity
Quote from: dublin7 on August 02, 2017, 01:05:05 AM
It's a pity the Mayo county board didn't apologise for the mayo fans booing Diarmuid Connolly in 2015.
Way too much being made of what happened on Sunday. I'd imagine Andy Moran is embarrassed by the attention it has gotten. I can only hope all the fury about booing from the mayo fans means that any roscommon player taking a free kick will be given silence from mayo fans as the self appointed defenders of moral integrity
This a local row! Stay out of it and mind your own business! We are sorting it out our own way!
Ros Co Board ask fans not to engage in booing opponents.
I await the Mayowestros and Dublin Co Boards asking fans to stop booing opposition free takers.
How long will I have to wait for dignity to reign in those quarters????
Quote from: Rossfan on August 02, 2017, 02:02:33 AM
Ros Co Board ask fans not to engage in booing opponents.
I await the Mayowestros and Dublin Co Boards asking fans to stop booing opposition free takers.
How long will I have to wait for dignity to reign in those quarters????
Was watching the recent Gold Cup soccer tournament from the USA. Prior to the national anthems, each captain read a statement requesting respect for the anthems, the referee and his officials, and the players of both teams. It was a nice gesture, but did not achieve anything really.
Do teams have noise/booing recreated using recordings during training sessions and free taking I wonder? The neighbours around the training site would be up in arms, no doubt.
Thats boogate done to death now.
Replay it is , we will win this one and more comfortably than the masses think i believe. From what i gathered from a player sunday evening, they didnt show up and have no intentions of letting it happen again. Mayo are confident of victory .
Sounds like the world an its mother believes we shouldn't even bother showing up.
They thought the same about our 2 trips to Salthill and Croke Park too.
QuoteSounds like the world an its mother believes we shouldn't even bother showing up.
They thought the same about our 2 trips to Salthill and Croke Park too.
What do you want?
Quote from: larryin89 on August 02, 2017, 06:13:46 AM
Thats boogate done to death now.
Replay it is , we will win this one and more comfortably than the masses think i believe. From what i gathered from a player sunday evening, they didnt show up and have no intentions of letting it happen again. Mayo are confident of victory .
Boooo !
Quote from: Rossfan on August 02, 2017, 09:58:05 AM
Sounds like the world an its mother believes we shouldn't even bother showing up.
They thought the same about our 2 trips to Salthill and Croke Park too.
Now now, Rossfan. Did you not read my synopsis of the match? I have seen no evidence of how Mayo will win the replay. Maybe as larryin has heard from a player that they weren't expecting the Ros onslaught early on, maybe Rochford will have learnt from his mistakes. Let's hope so. What I can't see happening is Rochford changing his conservative attitude and giving other subs a chance. It'll probably be the same 20 that get game time. Regan might come on with 5 minutes to go too.
Quote from: Syferus on August 02, 2017, 12:37:25 AM
Quote from: highorlow on August 02, 2017, 12:23:44 AM
The booing was more likely from a small band of jarred up lads. I don't think our lads are whinging about it much.
You Sy, are now whinging because if we were whinging in the first place about it we now will stop because of the Roskie CB statement.
Ye should be more worried about Enda Smith limping off the field at the end rather than our supposed whinging.
You mustn't visit MayoGAABlog, Midwest or Mayo GAA Banter or major national outlets much so.
Enda's no more hurt than Andy's feelings.
Syf, surely you have a job to go to? You seem to spend an unhealthy amount of time scrutinising the likes of MayoGAABlog, Midwest or Mayo GAA Banter or whatever yer havin' yerself and coming back here to bother us with what ever tidbit of nonsense you find there.
Who gives a
f**k damn about any of those sites or what some gobshite may or may not have posted there?
Surely you have something similar in the land of the sheep stealers?
Mac and his panel disassociated themselves from the behaviour of certain louts last Sunday. That's laudable but you shouldn't get orgiastic pleasure from the mere fact that the behaviour of some Rossie "fans" was so bad that your management and players felt the need to condemn this sort of behaviour.
There may be other counties where some elements resort to this objectionable carry on but we are not discussing other counties here.
Two wrongs don't make a right not even east of the Lung river where general behaviour can be a bit agricultural at times. ;D
Leave it be, there is no need to keep on fecking your soother outa yer pram.
Quote from: Rossfan on August 02, 2017, 09:58:05 AM
Sounds like the world an its mother believes we shouldn't even bother showing up.
They thought the same about our 2 trips to Salthill and Croke Park too.
Sure you must be sitting on a tidy sum by now, I presume you had enough confidence in yourselves to take 4/1 before the CF? 9/4 for Monday will cover your trip to the SF
Quote from: larryin89 on August 02, 2017, 06:13:46 AM
Thats boogate done to death now.
Replay it is , we will win this one and more comfortably than the masses think i believe. From what i gathered from a player sunday evening, they didnt show up and have no intentions of letting it happen again. Mayo are confident of victory .
"They didn't show up"
Have Mayo secured full copyright permission from Galway to use that?
Quote from: weareros on August 02, 2017, 11:54:13 AM
Quote from: larryin89 on August 02, 2017, 06:13:46 AM
Thats boogate done to death now.
Replay it is , we will win this one and more comfortably than the masses think i believe. From what i gathered from a player sunday evening, they didnt show up and have no intentions of letting it happen again. Mayo are confident of victory .
"They didn't show up"
Have Mayo secured full copyright permission from Galway to use that?
I know ye are excited about winning Connacht but since when does 1match turn a team into Barcelona. I remember a big match Ros drew last year. What happened in the replay?
Quote from: seafoid on August 02, 2017, 01:08:46 PM
Quote from: weareros on August 02, 2017, 11:54:13 AM
Quote from: larryin89 on August 02, 2017, 06:13:46 AM
Thats boogate done to death now.
Replay it is , we will win this one and more comfortably than the masses think i believe. From what i gathered from a player sunday evening, they didnt show up and have no intentions of letting it happen again. Mayo are confident of victory .
"They didn't show up"
Have Mayo secured full copyright permission from Galway to use that?
I know ye are excited about winning Connacht but since when does 1match turn a team into Barcelona. I remember a big match Ros drew last year. What happened in the replay?
How does it feel that no one is taking your bait anymore?
Joe Molloy made an interesting point on OTB on Monday nite, Mayo for the last two years seem to matching the performance of their opponents, be they Dublin or Derry.
I'd expect the same again on Monday, it could easily be a draw but I'd expect us to go through.
Why?
Roscommon got the start they dreamed off and couldn't capitalise on it and thats with AOS and COC not performing at all. Add into that Rochford making the mistake of taking off Boyle, breaking on Drake but most of all over estimating how good a footballer Enda Smith is. It was ideal to have Keegan marking him in the first half because Smith didn't have a notion and let Keegan dictate. Second half he should have been handed off to someone else and let Keegan continue at midfield.
Add to that again the two non-black cards that McQuillan dodged and the disgraceful awarding of the Donie Smith free and what else could go right for Roscommon the next day. Mayo will also surely have a solution (although I've said this before) for the high ball into our full back line
It is almost exclusively the case that the underdog rues not taking their chance the first day
Quote from: weareros on August 02, 2017, 11:54:13 AM
"They didn't show up"
Have Mayo secured full copyright permission from Galway to use that?
If that's the attitude then I'd be seriously worried. Why would a team of Mayo's experience not show up for an AIQF?
Why would we suddenly 'show up' this week?
It would be nice if Coen, Loftus, Regan, Boland et al were to show up on the starting 15 before they hit 30.
For us to win the AI we need to see if we have anything else in the squad to get us over the line, so what if we run the risk of losing in the QF by playing them.
We could hardly make a worse start with them than was made with the old reliables last week?
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 02, 2017, 01:11:44 PM
Joe Molloy made an interesting point on OTB on Monday nite, Mayo for the last two years seem to matching the performance of their opponents, be they Dublin or Derry.
I'd expect the same again on Monday, it could easily be a draw but I'd expect us to go through.
Why?
Roscommon got the start they dreamed off and couldn't capitalise on it and thats with AOS and COC not performing at all. Add into that Rochford making the mistake of taking off Boyle, breaking on Drake but most of all over estimating how good a footballer Enda Smith is. It was ideal to have Keegan marking him in the first half because Smith didn't have a notion and let Keegan dictate. Second half he should have been handed off to someone else and let Keegan continue at midfield.
Add to that again the two non-black cards that McQuillan dodged and the disgraceful awarding of the Donie Smith free and what else could go right for Roscommon the next day. Mayo will also surely have a solution (although I've said this before) for the high ball into our full back line
It is almost exclusively the case that the underdog rues not taking their chance the first day
This is definitely the week that the FB problem that plagued Mayo since 2012 will be solved.
Well we have a ref the next day who likes to dish out cards. Let's see how he will handle Lee Keegan's continuos holding back players and pulling of jersies, or the Cillian and Diarmuid O'Connor's accidental dirty tackles or accidental entanglements looking for frees (nice point Mayo got off that last week before half time). Mayo always ungrateful to their Dublin Joe - have they even sent the auld Christmas Card for the penalty he gave against Fermanagh for Aidan's dive last year?
Quote from: seafoid on August 02, 2017, 01:08:46 PM
Quote from: weareros on August 02, 2017, 11:54:13 AM
Quote from: larryin89 on August 02, 2017, 06:13:46 AM
Thats boogate done to death now.
Replay it is , we will win this one and more comfortably than the masses think i believe. From what i gathered from a player sunday evening, they didnt show up and have no intentions of letting it happen again. Mayo are confident of victory .
"They didn't show up"
Have Mayo secured full copyright permission from Galway to use that?
I know ye are excited about winning Connacht but since when does 1match turn a team into Barcelona. I remember a big match Ros drew last year. What happened in the replay?
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Feeling left out Seafood? You can't stand seeing the lesser Mayo and Roscommon playing on the big stage. To debate about all things Galway is a lonely room at the minute. Nobody in Roscommon thinks we are the Barcelona of football (pitiful analogy by the way) however we finally seem to have a team who will fight tooth and nail for the cause. This has been missing from Ros teams for far to long. We as supporters admire these traditional traits in our team.
Quote from: weareros on August 02, 2017, 01:35:44 PM
Well we have a ref the next day who likes to dish out cards. Let's see how he will handle Lee Keegan's continuos holding back players and pulling of jersies, or the Cillian and Diarmuid O'Connor's accidental dirty tackles or accidental entanglements looking for frees (nice point Mayo got off that last week before half time). Mayo always ungrateful to their Dublin Joe - have they even sent the auld Christmas Card for the penalty he gave against Fermanagh for Aidan's dive last year?
You mean the stonewall black card incident?? :o
Quote from: Rudi on August 02, 2017, 02:21:32 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 02, 2017, 01:08:46 PM
Quote from: weareros on August 02, 2017, 11:54:13 AM
Quote from: larryin89 on August 02, 2017, 06:13:46 AM
Thats boogate done to death now.
Replay it is , we will win this one and more comfortably than the masses think i believe. From what i gathered from a player sunday evening, they didnt show up and have no intentions of letting it happen again. Mayo are confident of victory .
"They didn't show up"
Have Mayo secured full copyright permission from Galway to use that?
I know ye are excited about winning Connacht but since when does 1match turn a team into Barcelona. I remember a big match Ros drew last year. What happened in the replay?
Feeling left out Seafood? You can't stand seeing the lesser Mayo and Roscommon playing on the big stage. To debate about all things Galway is a lonely room at the minute. Nobody in Roscommon thinks we are the Barcelona of football (pitiful analogy by the way) however we finally seem to have a team who will fight tooth and nail for the cause. This has been missing from Ros teams for far to long. We as supporters admire these traditional traits in our team.
I have him on ignore list, it's a sad reflection on him when he spends his time trying to belittle others achievements when his own county footballers have failed to perform yet again.
Ros and Mayo supporters are entitled to be proud of their teams - Galway football supporters would love to be able to say the same about their team, it's been a long time...
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 02, 2017, 02:40:44 PM
Quote from: weareros on August 02, 2017, 01:35:44 PM
Well we have a ref the next day who likes to dish out cards. Let's see how he will handle Lee Keegan's continuos holding back players and pulling of jersies, or the Cillian and Diarmuid O'Connor's accidental dirty tackles or accidental entanglements looking for frees (nice point Mayo got off that last week before half time). Mayo always ungrateful to their Dublin Joe - have they even sent the auld Christmas Card for the penalty he gave against Fermanagh for Aidan's dive last year?
You mean the stonewall black card incident?? :o
No it wasn't. Mayo had lost the ball. Roscommon were going up the field on a quick counter after Cregg sent the ball forward. O'Connor was behind Cregg and way behind the play, and totally manufactured that free. Joe gifted Mayo that score.
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Quote from: macdanger2 on August 02, 2017, 02:40:44 PM
Quote from: weareros on August 02, 2017, 01:35:44 PM
Well we have a ref the next day who likes to dish out cards. Let's see how he will handle Lee Keegan's continuos holding back players and pulling of jersies, or the Cillian and Diarmuid O'Connor's accidental dirty tackles or accidental entanglements looking for frees (nice point Mayo got off that last week before half time). Mayo always ungrateful to their Dublin Joe - have they even sent the auld Christmas Card for the penalty he gave against Fermanagh for Aidan's dive last year?
You mean the stonewall black card incident?? :o
No it wasn't. Mayo had lost the ball. Roscommon were going up the field on a quick counter after Cregg sent the ball forward. O'Connor was behind Cregg and way behind the play, and totally manufactured that free. Joe gifted Mayo that score.
Childish stuff weareros. Could mention McInerney might have seen red for the high dangerous tackle on AOS etc but I'm better than that ;D.
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Quote from: weareros on August 02, 2017, 02:51:43 PM
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Quote from: weareros on August 02, 2017, 01:35:44 PM
Well we have a ref the next day who likes to dish out cards. Let's see how he will handle Lee Keegan's continuos holding back players and pulling of jersies, or the Cillian and Diarmuid O'Connor's accidental dirty tackles or accidental entanglements looking for frees (nice point Mayo got off that last week before half time). Mayo always ungrateful to their Dublin Joe - have they even sent the auld Christmas Card for the penalty he gave against Fermanagh for Aidan's dive last year?
You mean the stonewall black card incident?? :o
No it wasn't. Mayo had lost the ball. Roscommon were going up the field on a quick counter after Cregg sent the ball forward. O'Connor was behind Cregg and way behind the play, and totally manufactured that free. Joe gifted Mayo that score.
Childish stuff weareros. Could mention McInerney might have seen red for the high dangerous tackle on AOS etc but I'm better than that ;D.
You mean the one where he barely touched AOS and he went down as if he had been chokeslamed by the Undertaker?
Really? That's the best you've got?
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 02, 2017, 01:11:44 PM
Joe Molloy made an interesting point on OTB on Monday nite, Mayo for the last two years seem to matching the performance of their opponents, be they Dublin or Derry.
I'd expect the same again on Monday, it could easily be a draw but I'd expect us to go through.
Why?
Roscommon got the start they dreamed off and couldn't capitalise on it and thats with AOS and COC not performing at all. Add into that Rochford making the mistake of taking off Boyle, breaking on Drake but most of all over estimating how good a footballer Enda Smith is. It was ideal to have Keegan marking him in the first half because Smith didn't have a notion and let Keegan dictate. Second half he should have been handed off to someone else and let Keegan continue at midfield.
Add to that again the two non-black cards that McQuillan dodged and the disgraceful awarding of the Donie Smith free and what else could go right for Roscommon the next day. Mayo will also surely have a solution (although I've said this before) for the high ball into our full back line
It is almost exclusively the case that the underdog rues not taking their chance the first day
Mayos performance levels has been consistent under Rochford. Steady more than spectacular and forever hard to beat who ever they play doesn't change that but they still have the ability to give a side a trimming if the opposition turn up poorly organized.
I believe Keegan will be given the job to man marker Enda Smith again as Sunday proved once Keegan went off him Smith he caused damage and both Harrson and Cafferkey was put onto him without much success. The last free was picked up off the ground even the very biased Willie Joe (aka John Gunnigan) has said this since watching the game back, as for non black cards well McQuillan also turned a blind eye to likes of Higgins,AOS and both O Connors "tackles" and if repeated Monday that won't be the case with Anthony Nolan who is card happy ref.
That game last Sunday wasn't one for forwards and the longer the game went on the less time and room they had on the ball, the best players on the field was all arguably defenders or sweepers Kilroy,Mullooly,McManus,Barrett,Keegan,Boyle etc. For Roscommon to let a seven point lead slip and then recover to win the 2nd half by 2 points against experienced and seasoned outfit like Mayo are probably deserves a lot more credit than its got IMO.
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Quote from: weareros on August 02, 2017, 11:54:13 AM
"They didn't show up"
Have Mayo secured full copyright permission from Galway to use that?
If that's the attitude then I'd be seriously worried. Why would a team of Mayo's experience not show up for an AIQF?
Why would we suddenly 'show up' this week?
It would be nice if Coen, Loftus, Regan, Boland et al were to show up on the starting 15 before they hit 30.
For us to win the AI we need to see if we have anything else in the squad to get us over the line, so what if we run the risk of losing in the QF by playing them.
We could hardly make a worse start with them than was made with the old reliables last week?
because it was only Roscommon . we will have bigger fish to fry soon and the replay is an unnecessary Distraction
as for Willie Joe changing his mind that pretty par for the course . hes not the most coherent of commentators and like a few maore seems to be trying to use mayo's success as a booster for some sort of a media carrer . not worth paying attention to
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Quote from: Syferus on August 02, 2017, 12:37:25 AM
Quote from: highorlow on August 02, 2017, 12:23:44 AM
The booing was more likely from a small band of jarred up lads. I don't think our lads are whinging about it much.
You Sy, are now whinging because if we were whinging in the first place about it we now will stop because of the Roskie CB statement.
Ye should be more worried about Enda Smith limping off the field at the end rather than our supposed whinging.
You mustn't visit MayoGAABlog, Midwest or Mayo GAA Banter or major national outlets much so.
Enda's no more hurt than Andy's feelings.
Syf, surely you have a job to go to? You seem to spend an unhealthy amount of time scrutinising the likes of MayoGAABlog, Midwest or Mayo GAA Banter or whatever yer havin' yerself and coming back here to bother us with what ever tidbit of nonsense you find there.
Who gives a f**k damn about any of those sites or what some gobshite may or may not have posted there?
Surely you have something similar in the land of the sheep stealers?
Mac and his panel disassociated themselves from the behaviour of certain louts last Sunday. That's laudable but you shouldn't get orgiastic pleasure from the mere fact that the behaviour of some Rossie "fans" was so bad that your management and players felt the need to condemn this sort of behaviour.
There may be other counties where some elements resort to this objectionable carry on but we are not discussing other counties here.
Two wrongs don't make a right not even east of the Lung river where general behaviour can be a bit agricultural at times. ;D
Leave it be, there is no need to keep on fecking your soother outa yer pram.
I think child labour laws in this country prohibit him from working
are sky covering the replay on Monday?
Quote from: seanf on August 02, 2017, 05:24:10 PM
are sky covering the replay on Monday?
Rte I think. Sky have the 2 quarters on Saturday
RTÉ 2.
With the likelihood of Tom Parsons returning to midfield, Rochy has a few choices to make:
Return Keegan to the half back line with Caff losing out in the reshuffle
Return Keegan to the back line and name Higgins/Durkan on the half forward line with both operating in the backs with Hihggins as sweeper.
Leave Keegan at midfield with Parsons and exclude SOS
Leave Keegan at midfield with SOS, push Parsons to the 40 and Aido to FF.
Start Loftus to the exclusion of DOC/K Mac or Doherty
Replace Caff with Crowe or SOS
Personally, I would like to see Kirby at FF with COC and Andy in corners and Loftus in reserve. Despite the reservations of others I would have Donie at chb and hold one of Boyle/Durcan as an impact sub. Likewise I had hoped to see Caff play himself into form but he looks to have lost pace and confidence. Time to make a change and probably a bold one.
Roscommon played well last week and I expect them to play equally well this week. Looking for match-ups is a dangerous game as any of the Ros forwards are likely to have a blinder or fail to reach expectations.
Quote from: weareros on August 02, 2017, 01:35:44 PM
Well we have a ref the next day who likes to dish out cards. Let's see how he will handle Lee Keegan's continuos holding back players and pulling of jersies, or the Cillian and Diarmuid O'Connor's accidental dirty tackles or accidental entanglements looking for frees (nice point Mayo got off that last week before half time). Mayo always ungrateful to their Dublin Joe - have they even sent the auld Christmas Card for the penalty he gave against Fermanagh for Aidan's dive last year?
Yaaaaawwwwwnnnnn..... yet another county having a moan about how Lee Keegan holds back players and holds jerseys.
Well it's time to put up or shut up. Point your phone on Keegan the next day and record the whole match and see what you got. You'll get shag all
Don't point me to some sportsfile photo from the replay of an instant in time without context.... some photo journalist trying to earn a few bob by producing a photo that fits with a narrative that the Dubs set last year.
Quote from: blast05 on August 02, 2017, 08:03:29 PM
Quote from: weareros on August 02, 2017, 01:35:44 PM
Well we have a ref the next day who likes to dish out cards. Let's see how he will handle Lee Keegan's continuos holding back players and pulling of jersies, or the Cillian and Diarmuid O'Connor's accidental dirty tackles or accidental entanglements looking for frees (nice point Mayo got off that last week before half time). Mayo always ungrateful to their Dublin Joe - have they even sent the auld Christmas Card for the penalty he gave against Fermanagh for Aidan's dive last year?
Yaaaaawwwwwnnnnn..... yet another county having a moan about how Lee Keegan holds back players and holds jerseys.
Well it's time to put up or shut up. Point your phone on Keegan the next day and record the whole match and see what you got. You'll get shag all
Don't point me to some sportsfile photo from the replay of an instant in time without context.... some photo journalist trying to earn a few bob by producing a photo that fits with a narrative that the Dubs set last year.
Nolan could mean Keegan is on borrowed time on Monday.
Quote from: Syferus on August 02, 2017, 08:08:41 PM
Quote from: blast05 on August 02, 2017, 08:03:29 PM
Quote from: weareros on August 02, 2017, 01:35:44 PM
Well we have a ref the next day who likes to dish out cards. Let's see how he will handle Lee Keegan's continuos holding back players and pulling of jersies, or the Cillian and Diarmuid O'Connor's accidental dirty tackles or accidental entanglements looking for frees (nice point Mayo got off that last week before half time). Mayo always ungrateful to their Dublin Joe - have they even sent the auld Christmas Card for the penalty he gave against Fermanagh for Aidan's dive last year?
Yaaaaawwwwwnnnnn..... yet another county having a moan about how Lee Keegan holds back players and holds jerseys.
Well it's time to put up or shut up. Point your phone on Keegan the next day and record the whole match and see what you got. You'll get shag all
Don't point me to some sportsfile photo from the replay of an instant in time without context.... some photo journalist trying to earn a few bob by producing a photo that fits with a narrative that the Dubs set last year.
Nolan could mean Keegan is on borrowed time on Monday.
As I said, put up or shut up.
Oh, and get a f**king life as well and quit living on this thread waiting for the next reply
Keegan is one of the top players of the last 5 years. Who would be the last few Mayo players of similar calibre? Other than McDonald.
Quote from: seafoid on August 02, 2017, 09:07:02 PM
Keegan is one of the top players of the last 5 years. Who would be the last few Mayo players of similar calibre? Other than McDonald.
Kenny Mortimer & James Nallen
Quote from: mrhardyannual on August 02, 2017, 09:21:51 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 02, 2017, 09:07:02 PM
Keegan is one of the top players of the last 5 years. Who would be the last few Mayo players of similar calibre? Other than McDonald.
Kenny Mortimer & James Nallen
I'd take Higgins over either.
I thought the Roscommon GAA statement on the booing was ill-advised. If I were them I would have ignored it, while in my heart I would have thought "our boys will boo whomever they f**king like, actually." This Nice-Guy-Eddie schtick only gets you so far.
Damned if I can figure out what'll happen the next day. I believe McStay said his pet cat could have predicted Mayo's team on Sunday. It must be some cat when it saw Parsons dropped for either Paddy Durcan or Jason Doherty.
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on August 02, 2017, 09:46:47 PM
I thought the Roscommon GAA statement on the booing was ill-advised. If I were them I would have ignored it, while in my heart I would have thought "our boys will boo whomever they f**king like, actually." This Nice-Guy-Eddie schtick only gets you so far.
Damned if I can figure out what'll happen the next day. I believe McStay said his pet cat could have predicted Mayo's team on Sunday. It must be some cat when it saw Parsons dropped for either Paddy Durcan or Jason Doherty.
It's the most read story on RTE.ie today, and check the tone of the comments on that article. McStay totally changed the tone of the narrative with a statement that probably took five minutes to write. Not the first time he's out-thought Mayo this week.
Quote from: Syferus on August 02, 2017, 09:58:05 PM
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on August 02, 2017, 09:46:47 PM
I thought the Roscommon GAA statement on the booing was ill-advised. If I were them I would have ignored it, while in my heart I would have thought "our boys will boo whomever they f**king like, actually." This Nice-Guy-Eddie schtick only gets you so far.
Damned if I can figure out what'll happen the next day. I believe McStay said his pet cat could have predicted Mayo's team on Sunday. It must be some cat when it saw Parsons dropped for either Paddy Durcan or Jason Doherty.
It's the most read story on RTE.ie today, and check the tone of the comments on that article. McStay totally changed the tone of the narrative with a statement that probably took five minutes to write. Not the first time he's out-thought Mayo this week.
To be fair to Kevin, I doubt if he was out-thinking anyone with his statement...it simply reflects the gentleman he is and the values he has always held. I think you are doing him a disservice by ascribing an ulterior motive to his comments.
Quote from: mrhardyannual on August 02, 2017, 10:36:48 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 02, 2017, 09:58:05 PM
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on August 02, 2017, 09:46:47 PM
I thought the Roscommon GAA statement on the booing was ill-advised. If I were them I would have ignored it, while in my heart I would have thought "our boys will boo whomever they f**king like, actually." This Nice-Guy-Eddie schtick only gets you so far.
Damned if I can figure out what'll happen the next day. I believe McStay said his pet cat could have predicted Mayo's team on Sunday. It must be some cat when it saw Parsons dropped for either Paddy Durcan or Jason Doherty.
It's the most read story on RTE.ie today, and check the tone of the comments on that article. McStay totally changed the tone of the narrative with a statement that probably took five minutes to write. Not the first time he's out-thought Mayo this week.
To be fair to Kevin, I doubt if he was out-thinking anyone with his statement...it simply reflects the gentleman he is and the values he has always held. I think you are doing him a disservice by ascribing an ulterior motive to his comments.
Just because he meant it genuinely doesn't mean he didn't know exactly what the effect would be.
Was disappointed at Roscommon's lack of balls when a good few up in the first half. Reminded me of Tyrone in 2002.
Quote from: ONeill on August 02, 2017, 11:18:22 PM
Was disappointed at Roscommon's lack of balls when a good few up in the first half. Reminded me of Tyrone in 2002.
I think the average age of the Ros team has to be taken into account with that.
The great thing about sport is that nobody knows what will happen next monday!
Quote from: Syferus on August 02, 2017, 09:58:05 PM
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on August 02, 2017, 09:46:47 PM
I thought the Roscommon GAA statement on the booing was ill-advised. If I were them I would have ignored it, while in my heart I would have thought "our boys will boo whomever they f**king like, actually." This Nice-Guy-Eddie schtick only gets you so far.
Damned if I can figure out what'll happen the next day. I believe McStay said his pet cat could have predicted Mayo's team on Sunday. It must be some cat when it saw Parsons dropped for either Paddy Durcan or Jason Doherty.
It's the most read story on RTE.ie today, and check the tone of the comments on that article. McStay totally changed the tone of the narrative with a statement that probably took five minutes to write. Not the first time he's out-thought Mayo this week.
Most read story on rte.Ie today?, Not on my phone anyway it wasn't. Kevin is a gent without a doubt but
When I checked a while ago there was ne'er a mention of him or his statement.
Quote from: Lar Naparka on August 03, 2017, 12:08:13 AM
Quote from: Syferus on August 02, 2017, 09:58:05 PM
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on August 02, 2017, 09:46:47 PM
I thought the Roscommon GAA statement on the booing was ill-advised. If I were them I would have ignored it, while in my heart I would have thought "our boys will boo whomever they f**king like, actually." This Nice-Guy-Eddie schtick only gets you so far.
Damned if I can figure out what'll happen the next day. I believe McStay said his pet cat could have predicted Mayo's team on Sunday. It must be some cat when it saw Parsons dropped for either Paddy Durcan or Jason Doherty.
It's the most read story on RTE.ie today, and check the tone of the comments on that article. McStay totally changed the tone of the narrative with a statement that probably took five minutes to write. Not the first time he's out-thought Mayo this week.
Most read story on rte.Ie today?, Not on my phone anyway it wasn't. Kevin is a gent without a doubt but
When I checked a while ago there was ne'er a mention of him or his statement.
Taken five minutes ago:
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4330/35505016814_3acf5861b4_b.jpg)
Your eyesight must be starting to fail, Lar.
Foster needs to lighten up.
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on August 02, 2017, 09:46:47 PM
I thought the Roscommon GAA statement on the booing was ill-advised. If I were them I would have ignored it, while in my heart I would have thought "our boys will boo whomever they f**king like, actually." This Nice-Guy-Eddie schtick only gets you so far.
Damned if I can figure out what'll happen the next day. I believe McStay said his pet cat could have predicted Mayo's team on Sunday. It must be some cat when it saw Parsons dropped for either Paddy Durcan or Jason Doherty.
The booing thing was not just Andy. Where I was, Mayo were booed coming out at the start and after half time - let them belt away would be my attitude. Didn't bother me. Maybe Roscommon GAA are the only ones that maybe should be concerned about it. Why bother though. Galway, Sligo and others have done the same to us in the past when they thought they were going to screw us, when we were in decline.
Parsons wasn't dropped and Durcan and Doherty are two of our most important players. Both had very good games and are in decent form.
Quote from: moysider on August 03, 2017, 01:10:59 AM
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on August 02, 2017, 09:46:47 PM
I thought the Roscommon GAA statement on the booing was ill-advised. If I were them I would have ignored it, while in my heart I would have thought "our boys will boo whomever they f**king like, actually." This Nice-Guy-Eddie schtick only gets you so far.
Damned if I can figure out what'll happen the next day. I believe McStay said his pet cat could have predicted Mayo's team on Sunday. It must be some cat when it saw Parsons dropped for either Paddy Durcan or Jason Doherty.
The booing thing was not just Andy. Where I was, Mayo were booed coming out at the start and after half time - let them belt away would be my attitude. Didn't bother me. Maybe Roscommon GAA are the only ones that maybe should be concerned about it. Why bother though. Galway, Sligo and others have done the same to us in the past when they thought they were going to screw us, when we were in decline.
Parsons wasn't dropped and Durcan and Doherty are two of our most important players. Both had very good games and are in decent form.
Neither was Donie Smith the only free-taker Mayo supporters booed. It's sad to see the Tyrone what-aboutry infecting Connacht men.
Can someone please lock Syf away from the laptop and take his phone from him. 13 or 14 posts on this thread alone in the past 24 hours is not right. Or go and have sex, you can dream about this thread if she doesn't do it for you. Good man, for our sanity and yours.
Quote from: ONeill on August 02, 2017, 11:18:22 PM
Was disappointed at Roscommon's lack of balls when a good few up in the first half. Reminded me of Tyrone in 2002.
Hopefully we'll be like Tyrone 2003 next year 8)
Quoteas for Willie Joe changing his mind that pretty par for the course . hes not the most coherent of commentators and like a few maore seems to be trying to use mayo's success as a booster for some sort of a media carrer . not worth paying attention to
That's out of order ros. Anyone who knows the man knows he is a gent and he is a committed / obsessed supporter. He has no other agenda and for you to state that he has is way out of order.
Quote from: ONeill on August 02, 2017, 11:18:22 PM
Was disappointed at Roscommon's lack of balls when a good few up in the first half. Reminded me of Tyrone in 2002.
Ros forwards were like statues for most of the game
Quote from: Kurtz on August 03, 2017, 09:50:11 AM
Quote from: ONeill on August 02, 2017, 11:18:22 PM
Was disappointed at Roscommon's lack of balls when a good few up in the first half. Reminded me of Tyrone in 2002.
Ros forwards were like statues for most of the game
hard to make runs when your constantly being pulled and dragged
they were turning around appealing to the umpires all during the first half
http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/mayos-game-almost-impossible-to-figure-from-the-outside-looking-in-456245.html (http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/mayos-game-almost-impossible-to-figure-from-the-outside-looking-in-456245.html)
he has a point
Quote from: Syferus on August 03, 2017, 02:07:50 AM
Neither was Donie Smith the only free-taker Mayo supporters booed. It's sad to see the Tyrone what-aboutry infecting Connacht men.
Syphilis, with your constant irritating and irascible references to ourselves, you really are like a bad dose of the clap. Do carry on.
Quotehttp://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/mayos-game-almost-impossible-to-figure-from-the-outside-looking-in-456245.html
he has a point
Is Ed still involved with the Dublin Hurlers?
I blame the GPS bras for a lot of the bullshit that is going on these days. That's what got Barrett hauled off against Cork and I noted that he made far less runs forward the last day, is it on the players minds that someone with a laptop will be hauling me in if i keep running like f**k?
I'd say the same applies to Boyler, the computer hauls him off.
Shur the excuse for Hennelly last year was some tactical bollicksology.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 03, 2017, 07:36:11 AM
Can someone please lock Syf away from the laptop and take his phone from him. 13 or 14 posts on this thread alone in the past 24 hours is not right. Or go and have sex, you can dream about this thread if she doesn't do it for you. Good man, for our sanity and yours.
You've really let the mask slip now.
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on August 03, 2017, 10:30:39 AM
Quote from: Syferus on August 03, 2017, 02:07:50 AM
Neither was Donie Smith the only free-taker Mayo supporters booed. It's sad to see the Tyrone what-aboutry infecting Connacht men.
Syphilis, with your constant irritating and irascible references to ourselves, you really are like a bad dose of the clap. Do carry on.
;D ;D ;D
Quote from: highorlow on August 03, 2017, 10:50:05 AM
Quotehttp://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/mayos-game-almost-impossible-to-figure-from-the-outside-looking-in-456245.html
he has a point
Is Ed still involved with the Dublin Hurlers?
I blame the GPS bras for a lot of the bullshit that is going on these days. That's what got Barrett hauled off against Cork and I noted that he made far less runs forward the last day, is it on the players minds that someone with a laptop will be hauling me in if i keep running like f**k?
I'd say the same applies to Boyler, the computer hauls him off.
Shur the excuse for Hennelly last year was some tactical bollicksology.
yeah, you could be on to something there
Quote from: Syferus on August 03, 2017, 12:20:32 AM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on August 03, 2017, 12:08:13 AM
Quote from: Syferus on August 02, 2017, 09:58:05 PM
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on August 02, 2017, 09:46:47 PM
I thought the Roscommon GAA statement on the booing was ill-advised. If I were them I would have ignored it, while in my heart I would have thought "our boys will boo whomever they f**king like, actually." This Nice-Guy-Eddie schtick only gets you so far.
Damned if I can figure out what'll happen the next day. I believe McStay said his pet cat could have predicted Mayo's team on Sunday. It must be some cat when it saw Parsons dropped for either Paddy Durcan or Jason Doherty.
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It's the most read story on RTE.ie today, and check the tone of the comments on that article. McStay totally changed the tone of the narrative with a statement that probably took five minutes to write. Not the first time he's out-thought Mayo this week.
Most read story on rte.Ie today?, Not on my phone anyway it wasn't. Kevin is a gent without a doubt but
When I checked a while ago there was ne'er a mention of him or his statement.
Taken five minutes ago:
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4330/35505016814_3acf5861b4_b.jpg)
Your eyesight must be starting to fail, Lar.
Touché, Syf. I got that wrong. That's what using a smartphone, on an intercity coach, on a bumpy road and with no sleep for over 20 hours does to me. Keep up the good fight, btw; you're compulsive reading.
Quote from: mrhardyannual on August 02, 2017, 09:21:51 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 02, 2017, 09:07:02 PM
Keegan is one of the top players of the last 5 years. Who would be the last few Mayo players of similar calibre? Other than McDonald.
Kenny Mortimer & James Nallen
Two top notch players without doubt. I'd also add Noel Connelly from the same era.
Quote from: Syferus on August 03, 2017, 02:07:50 AM
Quote from: moysider on August 03, 2017, 01:10:59 AM
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on August 02, 2017, 09:46:47 PM
I thought the Roscommon GAA statement on the booing was ill-advised. If I were them I would have ignored it, while in my heart I would have thought "our boys will boo whomever they f**king like, actually." This Nice-Guy-Eddie schtick only gets you so far.
Damned if I can figure out what'll happen the next day. I believe McStay said his pet cat could have predicted Mayo's team on Sunday. It must be some cat when it saw Parsons dropped for either Paddy Durcan or Jason Doherty.
The booing thing was not just Andy. Where I was, Mayo were booed coming out at the start and after half time - let them belt away would be my attitude. Didn't bother me. Maybe Roscommon GAA are the only ones that maybe should be concerned about it. Why bother though. Galway, Sligo and others have done the same to us in the past when they thought they were going to screw us, when we were in decline.
Parsons wasn't dropped and Durcan and Doherty are two of our most important players. Both had very good games and are in decent form.
Neither was Donie Smith the only free-taker Mayo supporters booed. It's sad to see the Tyrone what-aboutry infecting Connacht men.
Keep us out of your bitch-fest you are having out West.
We have enough problems with all the nonsense talked about how good Armagh are on the other thread.
Like them you can look back at a good enough season come Monday evening
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on August 03, 2017, 11:32:26 AM
Quote from: highorlow on August 03, 2017, 10:50:05 AM
Quotehttp://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/mayos-game-almost-impossible-to-figure-from-the-outside-looking-in-456245.html
he has a point
Is Ed still involved with the Dublin Hurlers?
I blame the GPS bras for a lot of the bullshit that is going on these days. That's what got Barrett hauled off against Cork and I noted that he made far less runs forward the last day, is it on the players minds that someone with a laptop will be hauling me in if i keep running like f**k?
I'd say the same applies to Boyler, the computer hauls him off.
Shur the excuse for Hennelly last year was some tactical bollicksology.
yeah, you could be on to something there
the reason Clarke was dropped for the replay final was the way he imploded in the last few mins of the drawn game things like chipping the ball onto connolly's head .
think we have to give Rochford the benefit of the doubt here . better to take a player off 2 mins to early than 2 mins too late after a goal or 2 has been conceded
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on August 03, 2017, 10:30:39 AM
Quote from: Syferus on August 03, 2017, 02:07:50 AM
Neither was Donie Smith the only free-taker Mayo supporters booed. It's sad to see the Tyrone what-aboutry infecting Connacht men.
Syphilis, with your constant irritating and irascible references to ourselves, you really are like a bad dose of the clap. Do carry on.
The craic on the board before a Ros v Tyrone final would be something else
Quote from: rosnarun on August 03, 2017, 12:33:52 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on August 03, 2017, 11:32:26 AM
Quote from: highorlow on August 03, 2017, 10:50:05 AM
Quotehttp://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/mayos-game-almost-impossible-to-figure-from-the-outside-looking-in-456245.html
he has a point
Is Ed still involved with the Dublin Hurlers?
I blame the GPS bras for a lot of the bullshit that is going on these days. That's what got Barrett hauled off against Cork and I noted that he made far less runs forward the last day, is it on the players minds that someone with a laptop will be hauling me in if i keep running like f**k?
I'd say the same applies to Boyler, the computer hauls him off.
Shur the excuse for Hennelly last year was some tactical bollicksology.
yeah, you could be on to something there
the reason Clarke was dropped for the replay final was the way he imploded in the last few mins of the drawn game things like chipping the ball onto connolly's head .
think we have to give Rochford the benefit of the doubt here . better to take a player off 2 mins to early than 2 mins too late after a goal or 2 has been conceded
Would agree with this but I think Andy should be left on as long as possible. It's not like he'll cost us a goal by being tired.
Ross name same team but positional changes for whatever that means.
Take a look at @RoscommonGAA's Tweet: https://twitter.com/RoscommonGAA/status/893073994466938880?s=09
Quote from: rosnarun on August 03, 2017, 12:33:52 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on August 03, 2017, 11:32:26 AM
Quote from: highorlow on August 03, 2017, 10:50:05 AM
Quotehttp://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/mayos-game-almost-impossible-to-figure-from-the-outside-looking-in-456245.html
he has a point
Is Ed still involved with the Dublin Hurlers?
I blame the GPS bras for a lot of the bullshit that is going on these days. That's what got Barrett hauled off against Cork and I noted that he made far less runs forward the last day, is it on the players minds that someone with a laptop will be hauling me in if i keep running like f**k?
I'd say the same applies to Boyler, the computer hauls him off.
Shur the excuse for Hennelly last year was some tactical bollicksology.
yeah, you could be on to something there
the reason Clarke was dropped for the replay final was the way he imploded in the last few mins of the drawn game things like chipping the ball onto connolly's head .
think we have to give Rochford the benefit of the doubt here . better to take a player off 2 mins to early than 2 mins too late after a goal or 2 has been conceded
No benefit of the doubt for Rochford at all. Clarke imploded? tiny errors for what was the All Star goalkeeper and Rob Hennelly with his huge errors hasn't seen game time since.
Quote from: Cunny Funt on August 03, 2017, 04:15:46 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on August 03, 2017, 12:33:52 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on August 03, 2017, 11:32:26 AM
Quote from: highorlow on August 03, 2017, 10:50:05 AM
Quotehttp://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/mayos-game-almost-impossible-to-figure-from-the-outside-looking-in-456245.html
he has a point
Is Ed still involved with the Dublin Hurlers?
I blame the GPS bras for a lot of the bullshit that is going on these days. That's what got Barrett hauled off against Cork and I noted that he made far less runs forward the last day, is it on the players minds that someone with a laptop will be hauling me in if i keep running like f**k?
I'd say the same applies to Boyler, the computer hauls him off.
Shur the excuse for Hennelly last year was some tactical bollicksology.
yeah, you could be on to something there
the reason Clarke was dropped for the replay final was the way he imploded in the last few mins of the drawn game things like chipping the ball onto connolly's head .
think we have to give Rochford the benefit of the doubt here . better to take a player off 2 mins to early than 2 mins too late after a goal or 2 has been conceded
No benefit of the doubt for Rochford at all. Clarke imploded? tiny errors for what was the All Star goalkeeper and Rob Hennelly with his huge errors hasn't seen game time since.
hardly tiny errors there would have been no need for a replay without them . also kick outs last wee were very poor , half his fault half the receiver I know but allied with the shortness of his long kicks I would have no problem with hennelly coming back in
I think Ros would love Hennelly coming in too!
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on August 03, 2017, 09:58:33 PM
I think Ros would love Hennelly coming in too!
You can love all you like but it ain't going to happen. Hennelly might have a better kick-out but with our continued problems at full-back Clarkie is a cert.
Quote from: mrhardyannual on August 03, 2017, 10:56:52 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on August 03, 2017, 09:58:33 PM
I think Ros would love Hennelly coming in too!
You can love all you like but it ain't going to happen. Hennelly might have a better kick-out but with our continued problems at full-back Clarkie is a cert.
He helped prevent the late Derry goal?!
The goalkeeping position has more focus these days than ever so the slightest mistake will be honed in on. All keepers in all games this year have made mistakes, even cluxton against Kildare kicked a few balls over the sideline. Reducing the mistakes is key and to be fair to Clarke this year he has improved.
I also think his longer kick outs are better this year, it's just our midfield is left unsettled all year by the management, which is frankly a disgrace and more than likely will be our downfall. What is the story with Barry Moran? Is he on the panel?
Quote from: highorlow on August 04, 2017, 09:24:50 AM
The goalkeeping position has more focus these days than ever so the slightest mistake will be honed in on. All keepers in all games this year have made mistakes, even cluxton against Kildare kicked a few balls over the sideline. Reducing the mistakes is key and to be fair to Clarke this year he has improved.
I also think his longer kick outs are better this year, it's just our midfield is left unsettled all year by the management, which is frankly a disgrace and more than likely will be our downfall. What is the story with Barry Moran? Is he on the panel?
a disgrace is very strong language for a team about to qualify gfor the all Ireland semi . nothing won in august etc.
moran is on the panel but hasn't been on matchday squad
Its the time of year to bring in a new fresh player to a team
I think Roscommon will do that the next day
Shhhhh!!!!
Also -
http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/syrian-refugees-returning-to-croke-park-for-roscommon-mayo-replay-800762.html
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on August 04, 2017, 10:29:39 AM
Its the time of year to bring in a new fresh player to a team
I think Roscommon will do that the next day
I can see the headline..."Bailey brothers deliver Neymar"
This is a lovely interview
https://youtu.be/_CcDIdd2ycQ
Team named, same as the starting team the last day
David Clarke (Ballina Stephenites)
Brendan Harrison (Aghamore)
Ger Cafferkey (Ballina Stephenites)
Keith Higgins (Ballyhaunis)
Colm Boyle (Davitts)
Chris Barrett (Belmullet)
Paddy Durcan (Castlebar Mitchels))
Lee Keegan (Westport
Seamus O'Shea (Breaffy)
Kevin McLoughlin (Knockmore)
Aidan O'Shea (Breaffy)
Diarmuid O'Connor (Ballintubber)
Jason Doherty (Burrishoole)
Cillian O'Connor (Ballintubber, captain)
Andy Moran (Ballaghaderreen)
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 04, 2017, 09:31:00 PM
Team named, same as the starting team the last day
Which means at least two changes will be made before throw in. Parsons,Vaughan or Loftus to start?
Rochford is definitely a tactical genius. No one will be able to guess the team he will play, and hence an unassailable advantage is his..
Possibly only Parsons starting ahead of SOS. It'll probably be the same subs at the same time for the same players. I hope they can rally themselves again.
Are there really no other players pushing to breakthrough in Mayo?
Must the only 'top' county that hasn't changed up the team to any degree
Quote from: Syferus on August 04, 2017, 09:50:11 PM
Rochford is definitely a tactical genius. No one will be able to guess the team he will play, and hence an unassailable advantage is his..
Would you say it's more or less of a tactical advantage to name players in positions they're not going to play in?
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 04, 2017, 10:12:20 PM
Possibly only Parsons starting ahead of SOS. It'll probably be the same subs at the same time for the same players. I hope they can rally themselves again.
You are in danger of sounding optimistic >:(
Thankfully Leroy is starting.
Quote from: highorlow on August 04, 2017, 10:53:42 PM
Thankfully Leroy is starting.
Looks like there was a scare
http://www.con-telegraph.ie/news/roundup/articles/2017/08/04/4144050-lee-keegan-fitness-fears-allayed-ahead-of-replay/
Quote from: mrhardyannual on August 04, 2017, 10:56:45 PM
Quote from: highorlow on August 04, 2017, 10:53:42 PM
Thankfully Leroy is starting.
Looks like there was a scare
http://www.con-telegraph.ie/news/roundup/articles/2017/08/04/4144050-lee-keegan-fitness-fears-allayed-ahead-of-replay/
Usually what happens in these situations is the player plays but at significantly less than 100%, so you should have plenty of fears left about Keegan. Diarmuid Murtagh wasn't 100% after his ankle injury three weeks ago and he wasn't getting hospital treatment the Thursday before a match.
macdanger, unless we start naming Kilroy at 4.5 you're never going to accurately position the players on a teamsheet. If Rochford can't tell each player's roll by now he's in for a very long Monday and a very short reign as Mayo manager.
Quote from: mrhardyannual on August 04, 2017, 10:56:45 PM
Quote from: highorlow on August 04, 2017, 10:53:42 PM
Thankfully Leroy is starting.
Looks like there was a scare
http://www.con-telegraph.ie/news/roundup/articles/2017/08/04/4144050-lee-keegan-fitness-fears-allayed-ahead-of-replay/
He went to the hospital for precautionary treatment.... not his GP, not the team doc.... strange
Quote from: blast05 on August 04, 2017, 11:57:57 PM
Quote from: mrhardyannual on August 04, 2017, 10:56:45 PM
Quote from: highorlow on August 04, 2017, 10:53:42 PM
Thankfully Leroy is starting.
Looks like there was a scare
http://www.con-telegraph.ie/news/roundup/articles/2017/08/04/4144050-lee-keegan-fitness-fears-allayed-ahead-of-replay/
He went to the hospital for precautionary treatment.... not his GP, not the team doc.... strange
a burst blister can be a backstard
always wear in new boots!
Quote from: Syferus on August 04, 2017, 11:57:12 PM
Quote from: mrhardyannual on August 04, 2017, 10:56:45 PM
Quote from: highorlow on August 04, 2017, 10:53:42 PM
Thankfully Leroy is starting.
Looks like there was a scare
http://www.con-telegraph.ie/news/roundup/articles/2017/08/04/4144050-lee-keegan-fitness-fears-allayed-ahead-of-replay/
Usually what happens in these situations is the player plays but at significantly less than 100%, so you should have plenty of feats left about Keegan. Diarmuid Murtagh wasn't 100% after his ankle injury three weeks ago and he wasn't getting treatment the Thursday before a match.
macdanger, unless we start naming Kilroy at 4.5 you're never going to accurately position the players on a teamsheet. If Rochford can't tell each player's roll by now he's in for a very long Monday and a very short reign as Mayo manager.
Actually, what usually what happens in these situations is completely different in every bloody case ffs ..... depends on the what the concern is. But feel free to waste another 5-10 minutes of your life speculating with more bolloux talk
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on August 05, 2017, 12:01:12 AM
Quote from: blast05 on August 04, 2017, 11:57:57 PM
Quote from: mrhardyannual on August 04, 2017, 10:56:45 PM
Quote from: highorlow on August 04, 2017, 10:53:42 PM
Thankfully Leroy is starting.
Looks like there was a scare
http://www.con-telegraph.ie/news/roundup/articles/2017/08/04/4144050-lee-keegan-fitness-fears-allayed-ahead-of-replay/
He went to the hospital for precautionary treatment.... not his GP, not the team doc.... strange
a burst blister can be a backstard
always wear in new boots!
Your know more than the article I see....
Quote from: blast05 on August 05, 2017, 12:03:03 AM
Quote from: Syferus on August 04, 2017, 11:57:12 PM
Quote from: mrhardyannual on August 04, 2017, 10:56:45 PM
Quote from: highorlow on August 04, 2017, 10:53:42 PM
Thankfully Leroy is starting.
Looks like there was a scare
http://www.con-telegraph.ie/news/roundup/articles/2017/08/04/4144050-lee-keegan-fitness-fears-allayed-ahead-of-replay/
Usually what happens in these situations is the player plays but at significantly less than 100%, so you should have plenty of feats left about Keegan. Diarmuid Murtagh wasn't 100% after his ankle injury three weeks ago and he wasn't getting treatment the Thursday before a match.
macdanger, unless we start naming Kilroy at 4.5 you're never going to accurately position the players on a teamsheet. If Rochford can't tell each player's roll by now he's in for a very long Monday and a very short reign as Mayo manager.
Actually, what usually what happens in these situations is completely different in every bloody case ffs ..... depends on the what the concern is. But feel free to waste another 5-10 minutes of your life speculating with more bolloux talk
If you think a lad sitting out training and having to get treatment at a hospital a few days before a match is ideal in any way whatsoever you're off on whatever planet the people on MayoGAABlog are on. Bodies take time to heal. Keegan does not have time. Keegan would be starting Monday if his arm was hanging off in all likelihood, this is far too big a match for Rochford for him not to play his PotY.
Quote from: heffo on August 04, 2017, 10:21:49 PM
Are there really no other players pushing to breakthrough in Mayo?
Must the only 'top' county that hasn't changed up the team to any degree
There has been very little changes of personnel since James Horan, never mind Stephen Rochford took over.
Courtesy of Willie Joe, here is the list of current players who played in the 2013 final. That's 15 in all who are still very much there four years later.
Robbie Hennelly, Ger Cafferkey, Chris Barrett; Lee Keegan, Donal Vaughan, Colm Boyle, Aidan O'Shea, Seamus O'Shea, Kevin McLoughlin, Keith Higgins, Alan Dillon, Cillian O'Connor and Andy Moran Subs: Barry Moran and Jason Doherty.
Really, only three have come through since then who have a realistic chance of starting in a championship game; Paddy Durcan, Diarmuid O'Connor and Brendan Harrison.
There are a few handy bucks alright who are on the fringe but, apart from Conor Loftus, none are setting the world alight.
I'm not saying that change for the sake of it is necessarily a good thing but Mayo's low turnover of players means that they are not bringing anything different or unexpected into their game. Mayo are predictable and any team they might meet from here onwards will be very aware of this fact. To add to our misfortune, our manager or any others from the recent past, are not noted for their tactical judgement.
Right now, I think Kevin McStay is a shrewder tactician than Stephen Rochford and God knows, Rochford is miles in front of Holmes & Connelly or James Horan.
If we win on Monday, Eamonn Fitz lies ahead and he's as cute a hoor as ever came out of Kerry. If we do make it to the final somehow, the odds are that Jim Gavin won't be losing any sleep over the prospect of coming up against Rochford and, God between us and small farms, if it's Tyrone and Mickey Harte we're doomed entirely!
Of course a good display on Monday would work wonders for the morale, but I'm hopeful rather than confident of that.
Quote from: blast05 on August 04, 2017, 11:57:57 PM
Quote from: mrhardyannual on August 04, 2017, 10:56:45 PM
Quote from: highorlow on August 04, 2017, 10:53:42 PM
Thankfully Leroy is starting.
Looks like there was a scare
http://www.con-telegraph.ie/news/roundup/articles/2017/08/04/4144050-lee-keegan-fitness-fears-allayed-ahead-of-replay/
He went to the hospital for precautionary treatment.... not his GP, not the team doc.... strange
Probably total fiction to get us to think we'll have it handy.
No one buying it (except Syfīn of course)
How long will it be until Mayo suffer the same fate as Donegal and are forced into a huge overhaul of their older players following a blitz of retirements. Who would be the main candidates to pull the plug over the next three years? Andy? Higgins? Boyle?
Quote from: Rossfan on August 05, 2017, 12:20:22 AM
Quote from: blast05 on August 04, 2017, 11:57:57 PM
Quote from: mrhardyannual on August 04, 2017, 10:56:45 PM
Quote from: highorlow on August 04, 2017, 10:53:42 PM
Thankfully Leroy is starting.
Looks like there was a scare
http://www.con-telegraph.ie/news/roundup/articles/2017/08/04/4144050-lee-keegan-fitness-fears-allayed-ahead-of-replay/
He went to the hospital for precautionary treatment.... not his GP, not the team doc.... strange
Probably total fiction to get us to think we'll have it handy.
No one buying it (except Syfīn of course)
Err, everyone is buying it besides the people with conspiracy-adled minds.
Quote from: Syferus on August 04, 2017, 11:57:12 PM
macdanger, unless we start naming Kilroy at 4.5 you're never going to accurately position the players on a teamsheet. If Rochford can't tell each player's roll by now he's in for a very long Monday and a very short reign as Mayo manager.
I see. So what you're saying is that every teamsheet is bollix until the game actually starts?
Does that mean we don't have a huge tactical advantage? ::)
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 05, 2017, 12:38:35 AM
Quote from: Syferus on August 04, 2017, 11:57:12 PM
macdanger, unless we start naming Kilroy at 4.5 you're never going to accurately position the players on a teamsheet. If Rochford can't tell each player's roll by now he's in for a very long Monday and a very short reign as Mayo manager.
I see. So what you're saying is that every teamsheet is bollix until the game actually starts?
Does that mean we don't have a huge tactical advantage? ::)
Our team sheet is entirely correct and from what I know the most of the players will be playing in their selected positions, so I really don't know what you're even getting at here.
Rochford is the one lying to the public by pretending Parsons isn't going to start in the vain hope it bestows him some advantage.
Quote from: Lar Naparka on August 05, 2017, 12:12:20 AM
Quote from: heffo on August 04, 2017, 10:21:49 PM
Are there really no other players pushing to breakthrough in Mayo?
Must the only 'top' county that hasn't changed up the team to any degree
There has been very little changes of personnel since James Horan, never mind Stephen Rochford took over.
Courtesy of Willie Joe, here is the list of current players who played in the 2013 final. That's 15 in all who are still very much there four years later.
Robbie Hennelly, Ger Cafferkey, Chris Barrett; Lee Keegan, Donal Vaughan, Colm Boyle, Aidan O'Shea, Seamus O'Shea, Kevin McLoughlin, Keith Higgins, Alan Dillon, Cillian O'Connor and Andy Moran Subs: Barry Moran and Jason Doherty.
Really, only three have come through since then who have a realistic chance of starting in a championship game; Paddy Durcan, Diarmuid O'Connor and Brendan Harrison.
There are a few handy bucks alright who are on the fringe but, apart from Conor Loftus, none are setting the world alight.
I'm not saying that change for the sake of it is necessarily a good thing but Mayo's low turnover of players means that they are not bringing anything different or unexpected into their game. Mayo are predictable and any team they might meet from here onwards will be very aware of this fact. To add to our misfortune, our manager or any others from the recent past, are not noted for their tactical judgement.
Right now, I think Kevin McStay is a shrewder tactician than Stephen Rochford and God knows, Rochford is miles in front of Holmes & Connelly or James Horan.
If we win on Monday, Eamonn Fitz lies ahead and he's as cute a hoor as ever came out of Kerry. If we do make it to the final somehow, the odds are that Jim Gavin won't be losing any sleep over the prospect of coming up against Rochford and, God between us and small farms, if it's Tyrone and Mickey Harte we're doomed entirely!
Of course a good display on Monday would work wonders for the morale, but I'm hopeful rather than confident of that.
"God between us and small farms". On bad land. But the land isnt much better in Roscommon.
Quote from: Syferus on August 05, 2017, 12:07:29 AM
Quote from: blast05 on August 05, 2017, 12:03:03 AM
Quote from: Syferus on August 04, 2017, 11:57:12 PM
Quote from: mrhardyannual on August 04, 2017, 10:56:45 PM
Quote from: highorlow on August 04, 2017, 10:53:42 PM
Thankfully Leroy is starting.
Looks like there was a scare
http://www.con-telegraph.ie/news/roundup/articles/2017/08/04/4144050-lee-keegan-fitness-fears-allayed-ahead-of-replay/
Usually what happens in these situations is the player plays but at significantly less than 100%, so you should have plenty of feats left about Keegan. Diarmuid Murtagh wasn't 100% after his ankle injury three weeks ago and he wasn't getting treatment the Thursday before a match.
macdanger, unless we start naming Kilroy at 4.5 you're never going to accurately position the players on a teamsheet. If Rochford can't tell each player's roll by now he's in for a very long Monday and a very short reign as Mayo manager.
Actually, what usually what happens in these situations is completely different in every bloody case ffs ..... depends on the what the concern is. But feel free to waste another 5-10 minutes of your life speculating with more bolloux talk
If you think a lad sitting out training and having to get treatment at a hospital a few days before a match is ideal in any way whatsoever you're off on whatever planet the people on MayoGAABlog are on. Bodies take time to heal. Keegan does not have time. Keegan would be starting Monday if his arm was hanging off in all likelihood, this is far too big a match for Rochford for him not to play his PotY.
Your passion for all things Rossies is to be admired. Your hatred for Mayo is a bit.... well, boring, at this stage.
Couple these with an irrational arrogance and inflated opinion on the value of your ramblings (you remind me of Tony Fearon on this board in the late '90s when he declared himself as the doyen of GAA discussion boards in a letter to a newspaper... we all laughed) and it all culminates in everyone largely dismissing your posts as nonsense despite a very occassional word of wisdom being contained within them.
As for Lee's blister - posting wishful thoughts on how it will affect him without any factual argument to back up your posts........ well, let's just say your post on this occasion wouldn't fit into that category of having occassional words of wisdom
Quote from: blast05 on August 05, 2017, 01:17:16 AM
Quote from: Syferus on August 05, 2017, 12:07:29 AM
Quote from: blast05 on August 05, 2017, 12:03:03 AM
Quote from: Syferus on August 04, 2017, 11:57:12 PM
Quote from: mrhardyannual on August 04, 2017, 10:56:45 PM
Quote from: highorlow on August 04, 2017, 10:53:42 PM
Thankfully Leroy is starting.
Looks like there was a scare
http://www.con-telegraph.ie/news/roundup/articles/2017/08/04/4144050-lee-keegan-fitness-fears-allayed-ahead-of-replay/
Usually what happens in these situations is the player plays but at significantly less than 100%, so you should have plenty of feats left about Keegan. Diarmuid Murtagh wasn't 100% after his ankle injury three weeks ago and he wasn't getting treatment the Thursday before a match.
macdanger, unless we start naming Kilroy at 4.5 you're never going to accurately position the players on a teamsheet. If Rochford can't tell each player's roll by now he's in for a very long Monday and a very short reign as Mayo manager.
Actually, what usually what happens in these situations is completely different in every bloody case ffs ..... depends on the what the concern is. But feel free to waste another 5-10 minutes of your life speculating with more bolloux talk
If you think a lad sitting out training and having to get treatment at a hospital a few days before a match is ideal in any way whatsoever you're off on whatever planet the people on MayoGAABlog are on. Bodies take time to heal. Keegan does not have time. Keegan would be starting Monday if his arm was hanging off in all likelihood, this is far too big a match for Rochford for him not to play his PotY.
Your passion for all things Rossies is to be admired. Your hatred for Mayo is a bit.... well, boring, at this stage.
Couple these with an irrational arrogance and inflated opinion on the value of your ramblings (you remind me of Tony Fearon on this board in the late '90s when he declared himself as the doyen of GAA discussion boards in a letter to a newspaper... we all laughed) and it all culminates in everyone largely dismissing your posts as nonsense despite a very occassional word of wisdom being contained within them.
As for Lee's blister - posting wishful thoughts on how it will affect him without any factual argument to back up your posts........ well, let's just say your post on this occasion wouldn't fit into that category of having occassional words of wisdom
I'm sure Keegan was just visiting the hospital for the craic alright.
I'd like you to point how anything I said could be conceivably taken as hating Mayo while you're at it. The rest is genuinely nonsensical stuff intended to bolster your own ego rather than add to any salient point.
You would miss Muppet on weekends like this.
A hamstring or groin strain might give cause for concern over Keegan but unless a blister was huge it would be unlikely to hamper him greatly. Despite all the talk about Mayo's lack of options I think the panel is deeper now than it has been in the past. The main problem seems to be one of concentration and focus. When the backs have been to the wall the team seems to be able to find a gear and kick on. With no disrespect to Roscommon, I think all the attention of the team has been on playing two big games at the end of the season v Kerry & Dublin. This lack of focus on the team in front of them has nearly led to their demise against Derry and Ros and could do so again on Monday. However I remain confident that we will kick on again.
Any point in us turning up at all on Monday?
Quote from: mrhardyannual on August 05, 2017, 11:34:44 AM
A hamstring or groin strain might give cause for concern over Keegan but unless a blister was huge it would be unlikely to hamper him greatly. Despite all the talk about Mayo's lack of options I think the panel is deeper now than it has been in the past. The main problem seems to be one of concentration and focus. When the backs have been to the wall the team seems to be able to find a gear and kick on. With no disrespect to Roscommon, I think all the attention of the team has been on playing two big games at the end of the season v Kerry & Dublin. This lack of focus on the team in front of them has nearly led to their demise against Derry and Ros and could do so again on Monday. However I remain confident that we will kick on again.
There isn't some kind of magical button for Rockford to turn on if this Quarter final is won, Mayos form has been at consistent level under Rochford and the focus the same throughout e.g make yourself hard to beat. As for the "deeper" panel in options well how many of the subs namely Kirby,Coen,Nally,Boland,Regan,Drake,Loftus would be classed as established senior county players?
Quote from: Syferus on August 05, 2017, 12:35:56 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 05, 2017, 12:20:22 AM
Quote from: blast05 on August 04, 2017, 11:57:57 PM
Quote from: mrhardyannual on August 04, 2017, 10:56:45 PM
Quote from: highorlow on August 04, 2017, 10:53:42 PM
Thankfully Leroy is starting.
Looks like there was a scare
http://www.con-telegraph.ie/news/roundup/articles/2017/08/04/4144050-lee-keegan-fitness-fears-allayed-ahead-of-replay/
He went to the hospital for precautionary treatment.... not his GP, not the team doc.... strange
Probably total fiction to get us to think we'll have it handy.
No one buying it (except Syfīn of course)
Err, everyone is buying it besides the people with conspiracy-adled minds.
Syferus, a mhac, I've been feeling distinctly uneasy for the last few days. Couldn't be quite sure of what was causing my angst but it had something to do with this board.
Suddenly I came across the post I'm responding to and everything clicked into place.
Believe it or not, I am genuinely concerned about you behaviour on the board. I know, the rest of humanity will think I'm as much on the Kildare side as you are but I still think you are a sound bloke; dysfunctional okay but not the worst I've come across.
I stuck up a post the other night ay 12:08 because I was bored, facing a long bus trip and had been without sleep for a long time. Anyway, I got my facts wrong, as you were quick to point out.
Fair enough, except that you were far too quick for my p[eace of mind.
You replied at 12:20, about 12 minutes later. I imagine that you had to head to RTE.ie, do a screen grab, crop it and then upload it to Flickr before linking it to your post.
You said the image was "taken 5 minutes ago."
Give or take a minute or so, you had to have read my post less than 7 minutes after I had posted it. After midnight and you were still on the alert for fresh posts!!
Do you take a break at all?
You keep on and on about conspiracies and hatred as if you feel that everyone else is out to get you. You asked me recently if I hated Roscommon more than I hated Dublin-- or something like that.
FFS, why would I hate either? If Ross beats Mayo on Monday, I hope they go the full distance- no problem with that. I'd safely say most Mayo fans would do likewise and most Rossies would reciprocate.
Your obsession with all things Mayo is patently obvious to most who post here as you can gather from the amount of dismissive, sarcastic and totally heartfelt responses you keep getting.
I don't mind a bit of slaggiing and maybe I do like knocking a few baas out of any sheep in my way from time to time but the only one who still doesn't cop on is you.
Maybe you should take an overdue break.
I am being serious ; chill out and enjoy life; we only get one chance to do so.
Quote from: Lar Naparka on August 05, 2017, 01:51:30 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 05, 2017, 12:35:56 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 05, 2017, 12:20:22 AM
Quote from: blast05 on August 04, 2017, 11:57:57 PM
Quote from: mrhardyannual on August 04, 2017, 10:56:45 PM
Quote from: highorlow on August 04, 2017, 10:53:42 PM
Thankfully Leroy is starting.
Looks like there was a scare
http://www.con-telegraph.ie/news/roundup/articles/2017/08/04/4144050-lee-keegan-fitness-fears-allayed-ahead-of-replay/
He went to the hospital for precautionary treatment.... not his GP, not the team doc.... strange
Probably total fiction to get us to think we'll have it handy.
No one buying it (except Syfīn of course)
Err, everyone is buying it besides the people with conspiracy-adled minds.
Syferus, a mhac, I've been feeling distinctly uneasy for the last few days. Couldn't be quite sure of what was causing my angst but it had something to do with this board.
Suddenly I came across the post I'm responding to and everything clicked into place.
Believe it or not, I am genuinely concerned about you behaviour on the board. I know, the rest of humanity will think I'm as much on the Kildare side as you are but I still think you are a sound bloke; dysfunctional okay but not the worst I've come across.
I stuck up a post the other night ay 12:08 because I was bored, facing a long bus trip and had been without sleep for a long time. Anyway, I got my facts wrong, as you were quick to point out.
Fair enough, except that you were far too quick for my p[eace of mind.
You replied at 12:20, about 12 minutes later. I imagine that you had to head to RTE.ie, do a screen grab, crop it and then upload it to Flickr before linking it to your post.
You said the image was "taken 5 minutes ago."
Give or take a minute or so, you had to have read my post less than 7 minutes after I had posted it. After midnight and you were still on the alert for fresh posts!!
Do you take a break at all?
You keep on and on about conspiracies and hatred as if you feel that everyone else is out to get you. You asked me recently if I hated Roscommon more than I hated Dublin-- or something like that.
FFS, why would I hate either? If Ross beats Mayo on Monday, I hope they go the full distance- no problem with that. I'd safely say most Mayo fans would do likewise and most Rossies would reciprocate.
Your obsession with all things Mayo is patently obvious to most who post here as you can gather from the amount of dismissive, sarcastic and totally heartfelt responses you keep getting.
I don't mind a bit of slaggiing and maybe I do like knocking a few baas out of any sheep in my way from time to time but the only one who still doesn't cop on is you.
Maybe you should take an overdue break.
I am being serious ; chill out and enjoy life; we only get one chance to do so.
exactly
real life doesn't happen on the internet
go out around Lough Gara for a cycle or something and relieve some of the frustrations
Quote from: Lar Naparka on August 05, 2017, 01:51:30 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 05, 2017, 12:35:56 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 05, 2017, 12:20:22 AM
Quote from: blast05 on August 04, 2017, 11:57:57 PM
Quote from: mrhardyannual on August 04, 2017, 10:56:45 PM
Quote from: highorlow on August 04, 2017, 10:53:42 PM
Thankfully Leroy is starting.
Looks like there was a scare
http://www.con-telegraph.ie/news/roundup/articles/2017/08/04/4144050-lee-keegan-fitness-fears-allayed-ahead-of-replay/
He went to the hospital for precautionary treatment.... not his GP, not the team doc.... strange
Probably total fiction to get us to think we'll have it handy.
No one buying it (except Syfīn of course)
Err, everyone is buying it besides the people with conspiracy-adled minds.
Syferus, a mhac, I've been feeling distinctly uneasy for the last few days. Couldn't be quite sure of what was causing my angst but it had something to do with this board.
Suddenly I came across the post I'm responding to and everything clicked into place.
Believe it or not, I am genuinely concerned about you behaviour on the board. I know, the rest of humanity will think I'm as much on the Kildare side as you are but I still think you are a sound bloke; dysfunctional okay but not the worst I've come across.
I stuck up a post the other night ay 12:08 because I was bored, facing a long bus trip and had been without sleep for a long time. Anyway, I got my facts wrong, as you were quick to point out.
Fair enough, except that you were far too quick for my p[eace of mind.
You replied at 12:20, about 12 minutes later. I imagine that you had to head to RTE.ie, do a screen grab, crop it and then upload it to Flickr before linking it to your post.
You said the image was "taken 5 minutes ago."
Give or take a minute or so, you had to have read my post less than 7 minutes after I had posted it. After midnight and you were still on the alert for fresh posts!!
Do you take a break at all?
You keep on and on about conspiracies and hatred as if you feel that everyone else is out to get you. You asked me recently if I hated Roscommon more than I hated Dublin-- or something like that.
FFS, why would I hate either? If Ross beats Mayo on Monday, I hope they go the full distance- no problem with that. I'd safely say most Mayo fans would do likewise and most Rossies would reciprocate.
Your obsession with all things Mayo is patently obvious to most who post here as you can gather from the amount of dismissive, sarcastic and totally heartfelt responses you keep getting.
I don't mind a bit of slaggiing and maybe I do like knocking a few baas out of any sheep in my way from time to time but the only one who still doesn't cop on is you.
Maybe you should take an overdue break.
I am being serious ; chill out and enjoy life; we only get one chance to do so.
You just typed up a gospel on a screen grab that takes me five seconds to capture and barely twice as long to upload. The irony is overwhelming.
Mayo team 5 years ago!
A few changes in personnel - Wonder where the O'Sheas were hiding?
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Quote from: Cunny Funt on August 05, 2017, 01:41:16 PM
Quote from: mrhardyannual on August 05, 2017, 11:34:44 AM
A hamstring or groin strain might give cause for concern over Keegan but unless a blister was huge it would be unlikely to hamper him greatly. Despite all the talk about Mayo's lack of options I think the panel is deeper now than it has been in the past. The main problem seems to be one of concentration and focus. When the backs have been to the wall the team seems to be able to find a gear and kick on. With no disrespect to Roscommon, I think all the attention of the team has been on playing two big games at the end of the season v Kerry & Dublin. This lack of focus on the team in front of them has nearly led to their demise against Derry and Ros and could do so again on Monday. However I remain confident that we will kick on again.
There isn't some kind of magical button for Rockford to turn on if this Quarter final is won, Mayos form has been at consistent level under Rochford and the focus the same throughout e.g make yourself hard to beat. As for the "deeper" panel in options well how many of the subs namely Kirby,Coen,Nally,Boland,Regan,Drake,Loftus would be classed as established senior county players?
I never suggested that there was a "Magic Button" that Rochford could push... only that a greater focus by all members of the team/panel could result in much improved performance. As this has been the case in the past, it's not unreasonable to suggest that it might again be the case. The best Mayo performances have usually come when their chances are dismissed against Dublin, Kerry or Tyrone. With respect to the Mayo subs that you listed, they have all had a reasonable exposure to top level senior football, at least as much as David Byrne, Eric Lowdnes, Darren Daly, Con O Callaghan, Shane Carthy & Con O Callaghan of Dublin, none of whom they would be reluctant to start or introduce.
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Thankfully Leroy is starting.
Looks like there was a scare
http://www.con-telegraph.ie/news/roundup/articles/2017/08/04/4144050-lee-keegan-fitness-fears-allayed-ahead-of-replay/
He went to the hospital for precautionary treatment.... not his GP, not the team doc.... strange
Probably total fiction to get us to think we'll have it handy.
No one buying it (except Syfīn of course)
Err, everyone is buying it besides the people with conspiracy-adled minds.
Syferus, a mhac, I've been feeling distinctly uneasy for the last few days. Couldn't be quite sure of what was causing my angst but it had something to do with this board.
Suddenly I came across the post I'm responding to and everything clicked into place.
Believe it or not, I am genuinely concerned about you behaviour on the board. I know, the rest of humanity will think I'm as much on the Kildare side as you are but I still think you are a sound bloke; dysfunctional okay but not the worst I've come across.
I stuck up a post the other night ay 12:08 because I was bored, facing a long bus trip and had been without sleep for a long time. Anyway, I got my facts wrong, as you were quick to point out.
Fair enough, except that you were far too quick for my p[eace of mind.
You replied at 12:20, about 12 minutes later. I imagine that you had to head to RTE.ie, do a screen grab, crop it and then upload it to Flickr before linking it to your post.
You said the image was "taken 5 minutes ago."
Give or take a minute or so, you had to have read my post less than 7 minutes after I had posted it. After midnight and you were still on the alert for fresh posts!!
Do you take a break at all?
You keep on and on about conspiracies and hatred as if you feel that everyone else is out to get you. You asked me recently if I hated Roscommon more than I hated Dublin-- or something like that.
FFS, why would I hate either? If Ross beats Mayo on Monday, I hope they go the full distance- no problem with that. I'd safely say most Mayo fans would do likewise and most Rossies would reciprocate.
Your obsession with all things Mayo is patently obvious to most who post here as you can gather from the amount of dismissive, sarcastic and totally heartfelt responses you keep getting.
I don't mind a bit of slaggiing and maybe I do like knocking a few baas out of any sheep in my way from time to time but the only one who still doesn't cop on is you.
Maybe you should take an overdue break.
I am being serious ; chill out and enjoy life; we only get one chance to do so.
You just typed up a gospel on a screen grab that takes me five seconds to capture and barely twice as long to upload. The irony is overwhelming.
Now Syf, you are sidestepping the point. Do you normally sit around, checking posts at quarter past 12 or thereabouts? I know you could do the copy and paste job without a bother. After all, you said you work in IT so that shouldn't be a bother but to be on the alert for incoming enemy missiles at such an ungodly hour worries me.
The Dubs are missing their full back and have injuries to a few key players
so maybe this could be the year
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DFhJUk7LNT0
A double of galway hurlers and mayo footballers would be glorious
It might for you but not for us Rosfolk.
Maybe next Tuesday if the Rhus pull off a shock victory Monday.
Quote from: seafoid on August 05, 2017, 03:25:51 PM
The Dubs are missing their full back and have injuries to a few key players
so maybe this could be the year
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DFhJUk7LNT0
A double of galway hurlers and mayo footballers would be glorious
There would not be an empty pub from Portumna to Belmullet!
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 05, 2017, 08:30:01 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 05, 2017, 03:25:51 PM
The Dubs are missing their full back and have injuries to a few key players
so maybe this could be the year
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DFhJUk7LNT0
A double of galway hurlers and mayo footballers would be glorious
There would not be an empty pub from Portumna to Belmullet!
There was a fantastic day in 2001 when Athenry won the club hurling and Crossmolina the club football. A Connacht double. Unforgettable
2 of the 5 teams left in the championship are from Connacht. Shows the strength of the province!
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The Dubs are missing their full back and have injuries to a few key players
so maybe this could be the year
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DFhJUk7LNT0
A double of galway hurlers and mayo footballers would be glorious
There would not be an empty pub from Portumna to Belmullet!
There was a fantastic day in 2001 when Athenry won the club hurling and Crossmolina the club football. A Connacht double. Unforgettable
A Maroon double at that! ;)
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Quote from: seafoid on August 05, 2017, 03:25:51 PM
The Dubs are missing their full back and have injuries to a few key players
so maybe this could be the year
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DFhJUk7LNT0
A double of galway hurlers and mayo footballers would be glorious
There would not be an empty pub from Portumna to Belmullet!
There was a fantastic day in 2001 when Athenry won the club hurling and Crossmolina the club football. A Connacht double. Unforgettable
I preferred 2013 with St Brigid's and St Thomas'
Quote from: Lar Naparka on August 05, 2017, 12:12:20 AM
Quote from: heffo on August 04, 2017, 10:21:49 PM
Are there really no other players pushing to breakthrough in Mayo?
Must the only 'top' county that hasn't changed up the team to any degree
There has been very little changes of personnel since James Horan, never mind Stephen Rochford took over.
Courtesy of Willie Joe, here is the list of current players who played in the 2013 final. That's 15 in all who are still very much there four years later.
Robbie Hennelly, Ger Cafferkey, Chris Barrett; Lee Keegan, Donal Vaughan, Colm Boyle, Aidan O'Shea, Seamus O'Shea, Kevin McLoughlin, Keith Higgins, Alan Dillon, Cillian O'Connor and Andy Moran Subs: Barry Moran and Jason Doherty.
Really, only three have come through since then who have a realistic chance of starting in a championship game; Paddy Durcan, Diarmuid O'Connor and Brendan Harrison.
There are a few handy bucks alright who are on the fringe but, apart from Conor Loftus, none are setting the world alight.
I'm not saying that change for the sake of it is necessarily a good thing but Mayo's low turnover of players means that they are not bringing anything different or unexpected into their game. Mayo are predictable and any team they might meet from here onwards will be very aware of this fact. To add to our misfortune, our manager or any others from the recent past, are not noted for their tactical judgement.
Right now, I think Kevin McStay is a shrewder tactician than Stephen Rochford and
God knows, Rochford is miles in front of Holmes & Connelly or James Horan.
If we win on Monday, Eamonn Fitz lies ahead and he's as cute a hoor as ever came out of Kerry. If we do make it to the final somehow, the odds are that Jim Gavin won't be losing any sleep over the prospect of coming up against Rochford and, God between us and small farms, if it's Tyrone and Mickey Harte we're doomed entirely!
Of course a good display on Monday would work wonders for the morale, but I'm hopeful rather than confident of that.
How do you make that out Lar?
Wonder if Mossy Quinn will be on the Sunday Game highlighting Johnny Coopers antics, the same way he was on complaining about Cillian O Connor
Leroy at his best!
https://www.sportsjoe.ie/gaa/lee-keegan-mayo-roscommon-132739
Quote from: mrhardyannual on August 06, 2017, 12:53:45 AM
Leroy at his best!
https://www.sportsjoe.ie/gaa/lee-keegan-mayo-roscommon-132739
sure, sure
ignore the off the ball draggin' and pullin'
There isnt a defender worth his salt who doesnt pull and drag, keegan gets highlighted because hes a fookin class footballer
No, he gets highlighted because he pulls and drags. This isn't complex..
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on August 05, 2017, 09:36:07 PM
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Quote from: From the Bunker on August 05, 2017, 08:30:01 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 05, 2017, 03:25:51 PM
The Dubs are missing their full back and have injuries to a few key players
so maybe this could be the year
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DFhJUk7LNT0
A double of galway hurlers and mayo footballers would be glorious
There would not be an empty pub from Portumna to Belmullet!
There was a fantastic day in 2001 when Athenry won the club hurling and Crossmolina the club football. A Connacht double. Unforgettable
I preferred 2013 with St Brigid's and St Thomas'
That was another great day. I was in Athlone not long after and the posters would do your heart good.
The first time I was in Croke PArk for SPD Nemo Rangers beat Clann and Midleton beat Athenry
It was so depressing.
Quote from: larryin89 on August 06, 2017, 12:05:25 PM
There isnt a defender worth his salt who doesnt pull and drag, keegan gets highlighted because hes a fookin class footballer
That's no defence. If you're caught speeding it's no use telling the judge everyone else us at it
Pulling and dragging is still illegal and cheating.
Play the game with skill and flair
But most of all play it fairly
Win and lose with equal grace
Play the game like Dermot Earley
Apologies if this has been posted already . It is worth reading.
http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/john-evans-the-mayo-roscommon-rivalry-is-vicious-456458.html
Is Rochford on a three year 'deal', as such?
From the examiner link above
"Still, Evans predicts Mayo to advance to an All-Ireland semi-final against Kerry. "I have been a fan of them but when I say that I don't mean wearing their colours – I just have massive admiration for their unbelievable endurance and never-say-die attitude. Their resilience is incredible"
Quote from: Jinxy on August 06, 2017, 03:54:40 PM
Is Rochford on a three year 'deal', as such?
The "deals" are normally 2 years with an option of a 3rd year.
I presume it's game over for him if they lose tomorrow.
Quote from: Jinxy on August 06, 2017, 04:12:29 PM
I presume it's game over for him if they lose tomorrow.
I'd say Aidan will still be managing them next year.
Can we match their new offer for McS/McH?
Quote from: Rossfan on August 06, 2017, 05:40:57 PM
Can we match their new offer for McS/McH?
Poor Liam has been shown more love in Roscommon the last four years than he ever was serving with distinction for his county.
Quote from: seafoid on August 06, 2017, 03:55:27 PM
From the examiner link above
"Still, Evans predicts Mayo to advance to an All-Ireland semi-final against Kerry. "I have been a fan of them but when I say that I don't mean wearing their colours – I just have massive admiration for their unbelievable endurance and never-say-die attitude. Their resilience is incredible"
Evans was a good league manager.
Do I sense a nervousness from the land of stolen sheep . Aye I thought so.
Quote from: larryin89 on August 06, 2017, 06:17:41 PM
Do I sense a nervousness from the land of stolen sheep . Aye I thought so.
Terribly neverous. We've so much to lose.
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Quote from: larryin89 on August 06, 2017, 06:17:41 PM
Do I sense a nervousness from the land of stolen sheep . Aye I thought so.
Terribly never pis. We've so much to lose.
Yer an awful bolix in real life too. Windy coont
Quote from: larryin89 on August 06, 2017, 06:17:41 PM
Do I sense a nervousness from the land of stolen sheep . Aye I thought so.
When your standing on the cusp of greatness it can generate a few butterflies.
Tomorrow is a day for not taking one backward step. Look them in the eye and lave them floundering on their fat Rhubarb arses.
Even if we don't win just let us live up to our motto be "NOT ONE STEP BACKWARDS"
Alarm set, flashkeen washed, sandwich material bought, tractor filled with dodgy diesel ...... what can possibly go wrong?
Hitting the road soon. I'm very nervous whatever about Rossfan and Syf. I know it's a cliché but whoever has learned more from the last day will win. I'm just afraid that Ros will - or both will have learned the same amount, if the latter is the case then Roscommon's fresher legs could win it for them. Hope I'm wrong. Not as many travelling from my neck of the woods. Hope they're proven wrong also. May the best team win so long as it's Mayo. Safe travels to all. Up Mayo.
Any idea of the expected crowd? Between 35,000 and 40,000?
Best if luck to the neighbours. Ros are the young bucks and Mayo the old dogs for the hard road.
Quote from: Rossfan on August 06, 2017, 11:49:49 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on August 06, 2017, 06:17:41 PM
Do I sense a nervousness from the land of stolen sheep . Aye I thought so.
When your standing on the cusp of greatness it can generate a few butterflies.
The far side of the Suck from Ballinasloe? There are all sorts of fauna there, not just butterflies
Safe travel that's the main thing.
Time to hit the road to Maynooth and then train to Croker.
C'mon Ros ye can do it lads.
If it doesn't happen let the experience be a springboard to better things over the next few years.
Quote from: Rossfan on August 07, 2017, 09:06:48 AM
Time to hit the road to Maynooth and then train to Croker.
C'mon Ros ye can do it lads.
If it doesn't happen let the experience be a springboard to better things over the next few years.
All the best. I hope ye do it. Don't spend the mortgage money.
Quote from: Rossfan on August 07, 2017, 09:06:48 AM
Time to hit the road to Maynooth and then train to Croker.
C'mon Ros ye can do it lads.
If it doesn't happen let the experience be a springboard to better things over the next few years.
It has to be built on
Pure usheless otherwise
Big day for Roscommon, they showed me they have a bit of grit and heart which I didn't think they had previously last week.
In saying that I felt a few Mayo players look noticeably fatigued last week, O'Shea in particular after the ET in Limerick. I expect that they'll be fresher this time around and will be breaking tackles with a lot more success.
From a neutral perspective you'd prefer Mayo in the semi-final as they can put it up to Kerry, though they need vast improvements. You get the feeling Roscommon would just be cannon fodder for Kerry.
Mayo's bench would be a huge worry, bar Loftus they are getting very little out of this are and with the starting XV having so many miles on the clock, it has to be of big concern. You have guys like Kirby and Boland who seemed to get a lot of football in the league and now they're nowhere to be seen.
Kerry aren't going to get it easy regardless who they play in the semi final IMO. Mayo we already know can put it up to Kerry while if Roscommon are good enough to beat Mayo their confidence would be high to give Kerry a right good rattle.
Anyway hopefully today's replay is another close competitive game may the best team win.
It's currently not raining in Dublin and it has been dry all morning.
Unless it starts raining soon, it's game over for Roscommon.
Lee Keegan not starting!!
Give me line ups; running commentary and score by score the whole way lads, in at work and cant even use the radio!!!
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Lee Keegan not starting!!
What's the story there? He's out doing the warm up and looks fine?
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Quote from: omagh_gael on August 07, 2017, 01:41:00 PM
Lee Keegan not starting!!
What's the story there? He's out doing the warm up and looks fine?
RTE saying he was , as reported here, in hospital earlier this week for a 'mystery illness." He was hospitalised for a couple of days. I'd say we'll see him for last 20 depending on score.
Cafferky replaced by Vaughan
Rossies missing Ciaran Murtagh and Fintan Gregg, possibly bigger misses than Mayo?
folks, advice needed :o
Im in the office (in Tyrone) and when I click on rte2 player to watch the game it says "No show scheduled on this channel" .... but it lets me watch rte1 live ... FFS ::)
Anybody any ideas ?
Any live streams?
I really hope the ref doesn't buy AOS diving all day!!!!
Score?
3 nil to Mayo
6 mins: Mayo 0-03 Roscommon 0-00
Keith Higgins wins a free and Cillian O'Connor converts. Straight from the kick-off, they build another score, with Donal Vaughan popping over the first point from play.
They've overwhelmed their neighbours in the opening stages here.
In Buff language, tantalising
Mayo doing untold
Ros have to soak it up maaaan
Early signs very bad for Rossies. Look totally devoid of ideas going forward. Mayo well up for it. Chris Barett off, split head.
Cillian free 4-0
Rossies shitting the bed. Mayo 6 up now.
Quote from: omagh_gael on August 07, 2017, 02:18:35 PM
Rossies shitting the bed. Mayo 6 up now.
None of the early energy of last week
Rossies playing stupid football. No pressure on the runners. No support off the shoulder. Playing long ball into the FF with no movement and Mayo defenders all over them. This could be a hammering.
Rossies hot both posts with a shot. Sums them up.
Rossies straight through, simple shot from 30 metres missed to the right and doesn't even go dead.
Enda smith finally gets their first score. Good one too.
22 mins Mayo 0-06 Ros 0-01
Mulooly good score
Great McLaughlin goal!!!
Andy Moran goal!!!
Holy feck Rossies have imploded
Mayo for Sam!!
Mayo look back to their best.
But but but it's Dublin, Kerry, then Tyrone as the top 3 according to the board experts
Are you watching the game? Ros have given up. My granny could run through the middle and bag 2-05 today.
Keith Higgins goal!
Again Keith ran totally unopposed from 45 straight to goal and not a hand laid on him. This is disgraceful from Ros.
Mayo to put Rossies on the bus home.
But they'll not get the space to run through in subsequent games.
Quote from: omagh_gael on August 07, 2017, 02:26:42 PM
Holy feck Rossies have imploded
Repeat of Connacht Final 2016. With scent of Brazil vs Germany at the World Cup
Alternatively it's something like the legend of Achilles. Great power until the end of July.
So this is how Dublin feel in Croke Park
How did mayo almost mess this up last week?
Rossies have filled the togs
Jaysus
Eamon fitz will be an interested observer
Quote from: omagh_gael on August 07, 2017, 02:30:28 PM
Are you watching the game? Ros have given up. My granny could run through the middle and bag 2-05 today.
Keith Higgins goal!
They aren't being allowed to play! The movement and work rate from Mayo is incredible
RTE
29 mins: Mayo 3-06 Roscommon 0-03
With Mayo now not bothering with points anymore as goals are coming so handily, Diarmuid Murtagh staunches the flow slightly with a straightforward free. Roscommon defenders look utterly despondent.
Quote from: JoG2 on August 07, 2017, 02:35:05 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on August 07, 2017, 02:30:28 PM
Are you watching the game? Ros have given up. My granny could run through the middle and bag 2-05 today.
Keith Higgins goal!
They aren't being allowed to play! The movement and work rate from Mayo is incredible
Not talking about their forward play. Their defence of the scoring zone has been embarrassing. Between handing the ball back to Mayo, lazy tackling, total absence of following the runners this is junior B stuff.
Mayo are much much better though, they really are hunting down goals today.
Shane Stapleton
@ShaneSaint
Mayo, nice to have ye back. Scintillating stuff. Not just a one-man team. Could be a classic against Kerry
Ah back to the big 4 again; lol
Best display from Mayo since the day they demolished Donegal. Their work rate, energy and support running is brilliant.
Quote from: JoG2 on August 07, 2017, 02:35:05 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on August 07, 2017, 02:30:28 PM
Are you watching the game? Ros have given up. My granny could run through the middle and bag 2-05 today.
Keith Higgins goal!
They aren't being allowed to play! The movement and work rate from Mayo is incredible
The Roscommon keeper not helping things, some awful kickouts.
4 non competitive quarter finals
3-8 to 0-3
Keep updating the score lads
That last play summed Ros up. They had 8 defenders back and Moran had all the time he wanted to shoot for a point. You'd be forgiven for thinking he was hitting a free kick such was their lack of urgency.
Quote from: JoG2 on August 07, 2017, 02:35:05 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on August 07, 2017, 02:30:28 PM
Are you watching the game? Ros have given up. My granny could run through the middle and bag 2-05 today.
Keith Higgins goal!
They aren't being allowed to play! The movement and work rate from Mayo is incredible
You could drive dive a fleet of buses down the centre of the Roscommon defence. Mayo players shooting under no pressure, running right down the middle and no one going to meet the attacking player. Worst thing you could say is they are making Mayo forwards look good.
Mayo have pushed up on Roscommon kick outs but that's no excuse for the complete lack of any defending
As good a first half as I've ever seen from us. 3/8 to 4
Rossie will be lucky to keep 12 on the pitch here. Mullolly is dying to get the line
I assume
We'll ease up in the second half
Weaker teams have to win the first day. You never get a second chance to make a first impression.
h-time 3-8 0-4
The middle channel in rossie defence are parting like the red sea every time.
Reality bites in a big way for Roscommon.
They caught Galway on the hop in the Connacht final by getting a good start on a rainy day, and caught Mayo on the hop in the quarter-final by getting a good start on a rainy day.
Roscommon were thought by a lot of observers to be the fresher team coming into this, but Mayo are well used to having to recover quickly for this sort of game. Roscommon aren't.
We now know who the drawn match took more out of.
The gap in pace, physicality and ability is absolutely frightening.
You could sail a car ferry through the Roscommon defence.
It's a complete turkey-shoot.
Mayo can coast through the second half at training pace now and empty their bench for match practice.
Guys like Vaughan, Higgins, Boyle and McLoughlin who have looked dead on their feet at times this year now playing with the same zest three of four years back.
They will give Kerry their fill of it and they are ready made for Kerry given how susceptible Kerry are to runners down the middle.
Quote from: JoG2 on August 07, 2017, 02:29:09 PM
But but but it's Dublin, Kerry, then Tyrone as the top 3 according to the board experts
roscommon have completely capitulated. Mayo are being ruthless today but don't forget its a short week since they drew with thi same team. When they put it up to kerry i'll change my mind
The super 8 going to be super crap with some big hammerings handed out! Age old saying of dont poke the bear coming to the fore here!@
I presume somewhere Syf has slipped out of his Rossie jersey into a more comfortable red and green number
That's the thing, Kerry may have the best FF line left in the championship but they are vulnerable to runners up the middle.
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 07, 2017, 02:48:04 PM
I presume somewhere Syf has slipped out of his Rossie jersey into a more comfortable red and green number
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zkjLVMMutY
Fair play, Mayo, wasn't expecting that. With a bit of rest, ye can put it up to Kerry. Would be nice to see Tyrone Mayo final. I would fancy Mayo to break the hoodoo if that were the case...
Fook knows what McStay was at dropping his two goalscorers from last week.
Quote from: straightred on August 07, 2017, 02:44:59 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on August 07, 2017, 02:29:09 PM
But but but it's Dublin, Kerry, then Tyrone as the top 3 according to the board experts
roscommon have completely capitulated. Mayo are being ruthless today but don't forget its a short week since they drew with thi same team. When they put it up to kerry i'll change my mind
;D
With all due respect to Roscommon, Mayo were just terrible last week.
As mentioned on the Mayo podcast, neither COC or AOS even got ONE vote for MOM on the Mayogaablg poll
Mayo just a miles better team. No idea why they were so shite this year, could possibly be Rochford's tactics, but he's left them off the leash today. Playing like this they are just as good as Kerry and Dublin.
Going to be two smashing semi finals. Four great teams. The rest have a lot of catching up to do.
Quote from: sid waddell on August 07, 2017, 02:57:37 PM
Fook knows what McStay was at dropping his two goalscorers from last week.
I'd assumed they were injured! That's a ridiculous call. Again Aiden O'Se has all the time he wants to check the hair do before stroking over a point.
Keep the score updated lads
Follow rte sport WW
As Ger would says "it's a big huge hammering"
Not allowed on it in work; hence sneaky use of phone
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on August 07, 2017, 03:07:21 PM
Keep the score updated lads
4-11 to 0-6
It's cruel at this stage
4-11 to 0-6
4-11 to 0-06
Cillian just got a goal, another absolute gift from a terrible Ros kick out
Quote from: Hound on August 07, 2017, 03:01:44 PM
Mayo just a miles better team. No idea why they were so shite this year, could possibly be Rochford's tactics, but he's left them off the leash today. Playing like this they are just as good as Kerry and Dublin.
Going to be two smashing semi finals. Four great teams. The rest have a lot of catching up to do.
Can we scrap the super 8s for next year and just have a super 4.
49 mins: Mayo 4-12 Roscommon 0-06
Rossie sent off. Fintan Cregg
4-14 0-6
Mayo not convincing
https://mobile.twitter.com/TheSundayGame/status/894538083277852672/video/1
That was then
61 mins: Mayo 4-15 Roscommon 0-06
Would have been much better for the rossies if they had lost narrowly last week.
Quote from: lenny on August 07, 2017, 03:12:39 PM
Quote from: Hound on August 07, 2017, 03:01:44 PM
Mayo just a miles better team. No idea why they were so shite this year, could possibly be Rochford's tactics, but he's left them off the leash today. Playing like this they are just as good as Kerry and Dublin.
Going to be two smashing semi finals. Four great teams. The rest have a lot of catching up to do.
Can we scrap the super 8s for next year and just have a super 4.
Get your own ideas Lenny
Quote from: omagh_gael on August 07, 2017, 03:12:00 PM
4-11 to 0-06
Cillian just got a goal, another absolute gift from a terrible Ros kick out
Would you use the first name for players from other counties not your own? I wouldn¨t but I would be used to thinking of Moran as Andy....
Maybe it's due to the qualifiers
Not sure it's necessarily a great thing for Mayo to win this so easily and comprehensively. Kerry will be forewarned now and any hint of complacency they might have had due to Mayo's indifferent form will be well gone. Might have been better to stutter through another game in preparation for an ambush.
That said I'm sure they're happy they've avoided any extra-time again.
64 mins: Mayo 4-16 Roscommon 0-07
Total capitulation
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on August 07, 2017, 03:33:32 PM
Not sure it's necessarily a great thing for Mayo to win this so easily and comprehensively. Kerry will be forewarned now and any hint of complacency they might have had due to Mayo's indifferent form will be well gone. Might have been better to stutter through another game in preparation for an ambush.
That said I'm sure they're happy they've avoided any extra-time again.
I'd disagree, I think we, as a county, needed this
The panel on the top 3 and the gap
https://mobile.twitter.com/TheSundayGame/status/894311536369352705/video/1
I would love it Mayo beat Kerry.
Tyrone haven't beaten anyone
Is this something of a record margin at this stage?
Big turn around from the first game, it reminds me of Crossmaglen v Garrycastle.
Aiden O'Shea MOM baffles me. Thought he was useless.
Quote from: seafoid on August 07, 2017, 03:37:29 PM
The panel on the top 3 and the gap
https://mobile.twitter.com/TheSundayGame/status/894311536369352705/video/1
I would love it Mayo beat Kerry.
Tyrone haven't beaten anyone
Who have Mayo beaten?
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 07, 2017, 03:47:37 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 07, 2017, 03:37:29 PM
The panel on the top 3 and the gap
https://mobile.twitter.com/TheSundayGame/status/894311536369352705/video/1
I would love it Mayo beat Kerry.
Tyrone haven't beaten anyone
Who have Mayo beaten?
They beat some team from Ulster in the quarter final last year
They also beat them in the semi a few years ago
Quote from: seafoid on August 07, 2017, 04:01:23 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 07, 2017, 03:47:37 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 07, 2017, 03:37:29 PM
The panel on the top 3 and the gap
https://mobile.twitter.com/TheSundayGame/status/894311536369352705/video/1
I would love it Mayo beat Kerry.
Tyrone haven't beaten anyone
Who have Mayo beaten?
They beat some team from Ulster in the quarter final last year
They also beat them in the semi a few years ago
So they've failed to beat Kerry and Dublin in about 7/8 Championship football games now.
I didn't realise just how young Roscommon were until I saw the pen pics before the start. A winter in the Gym beside the Armagh Wans required for the Rossies as well. The superior physicality of the Top 4 is very evident, and I don't mean that they need to run about like they've a fridge under each arm, but a lot of teams require some serious core strength conditioning.
Mayo would want to go underground for a while to stay earthed. Mayo had some poor wides and some of the scores would have been harder if traffic cones had been put in their way.
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 07, 2017, 04:03:32 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 07, 2017, 04:01:23 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 07, 2017, 03:47:37 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 07, 2017, 03:37:29 PM
The panel on the top 3 and the gap
https://mobile.twitter.com/TheSundayGame/status/894311536369352705/video/1
I would love it Mayo beat Kerry.
Tyrone haven't beaten anyone
So they've failed to beat Kerry and Dublin in about 7/8 Championship football games now.
Who have Mayo beaten?
They beat some team from Ulster in the quarter final last year
They also beat them in the semi a few years ago
I don't believe Kerry have beaten Dublin either. They beat Donegal in 2014 and Donegal had beaten Dublin
Tyrone haven't beaten anyone yet
Quote from: seafoid on August 07, 2017, 04:13:29 PM
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Quote from: seafoid on August 07, 2017, 04:01:23 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 07, 2017, 03:47:37 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 07, 2017, 03:37:29 PM
The panel on the top 3 and the gap
https://mobile.twitter.com/TheSundayGame/status/894311536369352705/video/1
I would love it Mayo beat Kerry.
Tyrone haven't beaten anyone
So they've failed to beat Kerry and Dublin in about 7/8 Championship football games now.
Who have Mayo beaten?
They beat some team from Ulster in the quarter final last year
They also beat them in the semi a few years ago
I don't believe Kerry have beaten Dublin either. They beat Donegal in 2014 and Donegal had beaten Dublin
Tyrone haven't beaten anyone yet
And who have Mayo beaten?
4-19 0-9
There is no Top 4, Top 3 or Top 2.
There is a Top 1 (Dublin) and 3 teams at the minute who can conceivably put it up to them - Kerry, Mayo and Tyrone.
Kerry have had three cracks at Dublin now under Gavin, 2013, 2015 and 2016 - all ending in defeats.
Mayo have had three cracks at Dublin under Gavin, two ending in Dublin wins after replays and another defeat in 2013.
Tyrone have yet to meet Dublin but they are definitely the most similar in tactical composition to the only side to topple Dublin under Gavin in Championship football. This Tyrone side only really joined the top table in 2015 so this is a big game for them and I'm confident they have what it takes.
Mayo and Kerry will be an interesting game, it's a game Mayo really should have won two three years ago. If Mayo bring a sustained level of drive and energy that they brought today against Kerry next week they have every chance.
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 07, 2017, 04:22:06 PM
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Quote from: seafoid on August 07, 2017, 03:37:29 PM
The panel on the top 3 and the gap
https://mobile.twitter.com/TheSundayGame/status/894311536369352705/video/1
I would love it Mayo beat Kerry.
Tyrone haven't beaten anyone
So they've failed to beat Kerry and Dublin in about 7/8 Championship football games now.
Who have Mayo beaten?
They beat some team from Ulster in the quarter final last year
They also beat them in the semi a few years ago
I don't believe Kerry have beaten Dublin either. They beat Donegal in 2014 and Donegal had beaten Dublin
Tyrone haven't beaten anyone yet
And who have Mayo beaten?
Tyrone x2, Donegal x2, Kildare, Cork x2
Throw in three draws with Dublin and Kerry
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 07, 2017, 04:33:04 PM
There is no Top 4, Top 3 or Top 2.
There is a Top 1 (Dublin) and 3 teams at the minute who can conceivably put it up to them - Kerry, Mayo and Tyrone.
Kerry have had three cracks at Dublin now under Gavin, 2013, 2015 and 2016 - all ending in defeats.
Mayo have had three cracks at Dublin under Gavin, two ending in Dublin wins after replays and another defeat in 2013.
Tyrone have yet to meet Dublin but they are definitely the most similar in tactical composition to the only side to topple Dublin under Gavin in Championship football. This Tyrone side only really joined the top table in 2015 so this is a big game for them and I'm confident they have what it takes.
Mayo and Kerry will be an interesting game, it's a game Mayo really should have won two three years ago. If Mayo bring a sustained level of drive and energy that they brought today against Kerry next week they have every chance.
Tyrone were relegated to Division 2 in 2015. Champions of Ulster doesn't necessarily mean anything. cf Monaghan
Quote from: seafoid on August 07, 2017, 04:56:22 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 07, 2017, 04:33:04 PM
There is no Top 4, Top 3 or Top 2.
There is a Top 1 (Dublin) and 3 teams at the minute who can conceivably put it up to them - Kerry, Mayo and Tyrone.
Kerry have had three cracks at Dublin now under Gavin, 2013, 2015 and 2016 - all ending in defeats.
Mayo have had three cracks at Dublin under Gavin, two ending in Dublin wins after replays and another defeat in 2013.
Tyrone have yet to meet Dublin but they are definitely the most similar in tactical composition to the only side to topple Dublin under Gavin in Championship football. This Tyrone side only really joined the top table in 2015 so this is a big game for them and I'm confident they have what it takes.
Mayo and Kerry will be an interesting game, it's a game Mayo really should have won two three years ago. If Mayo bring a sustained level of drive and energy that they brought today against Kerry next week they have every chance.
Tyrone were relegated to Division 2 in 2015. Champions of Ulster doesn't necessarily mean anything. cf Monaghan
Cork finished top of the league in the same year. Its yesterdays news.
Something strange happened today
There was a Top 3.
https://mobile.twitter.com/TheSundayGame/status/894311536369352705/video/1
https://mobile.twitter.com/TheSundayGame/status/894538083277852672/video/1
Until 2pm
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2017/0807/895734-mayo-v-roscommon/
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 07, 2017, 04:50:57 PM
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Quote from: seafoid on August 07, 2017, 04:13:29 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 07, 2017, 04:03:32 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 07, 2017, 04:01:23 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 07, 2017, 03:47:37 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 07, 2017, 03:37:29 PM
The panel on the top 3 and the gap
https://mobile.twitter.com/TheSundayGame/status/894311536369352705/video/1
I would love it Mayo beat Kerry.
Tyrone haven't beaten anyone
So they've failed to beat Kerry and Dublin in about 7/8 Championship football games now.
Who have Mayo beaten?
They beat some team from Ulster in the quarter final last year
They also beat them in the semi a few years ago
I don't believe Kerry have beaten Dublin either. They beat Donegal in 2014 and Donegal had beaten Dublin
Tyrone haven't beaten anyone yet
And who have Mayo beaten?
Tyrone x2, Donegal x2, Kildare, Cork x2
Throw in three draws with Dublin and Kerry
Draws only matter if you go and win the replay.
Cork are a busted flush since 2011.
Kildare have never been serious challengers.
Tyrone are only really serious contenders since 2015.
Donegal had their appetite sated in 2012 and they were finished as a serious contender after 2014.
Mayo have had four attempts at Dublin and Kerry and didn't win any.
Kerry's win in 2014 will have a big asterisk beside it as Donegal did their dirty work.
Tyrone have came up short against Mayo and Kerry in the last two years.
There's the big one and the other three and that's the reality.
Bomber, you are like a northern version of Syferus.
"This Tyrone side only really joined the top table in 2015 so this is a big game for them and I'm confident they have what it takes." was hilarious.
Are you by any chance Tyrone''s mother ?
Quote from: seafoid on August 07, 2017, 05:24:01 PM
Bomber, you are like a northern version of Syferus.
"This Tyrone side only really joined the top table in 2015 so this is a big game for them and I'm confident they have what it takes." was hilarious.
Are you by any chance Tyrone''s mother ?
It's amusing the way Galway are now a nothing county in gaelic football terms.
Is it now 16 years since you won a Championship game at Croke Park?
Tyrone will have to prove they belong in the conversation the next day out. Seeing as the best Kerry or Mayo can do against Dublin is a draw, what chances Tyrone and Dublin draw?
In fact, what odds both semifinals go to replays?
Quote from: Ball Hopper on August 07, 2017, 05:27:34 PM
Tyrone will have to prove they belong in the conversation the next day out. Seeing as the best Kerry or Mayo can do against Dublin is a draw, what chances Tyrone and Dublin draw?
In fact, what odds both semifinals go to replays?
The best Mayo have done is a draw.
The best Kerry have done is lose.
Quote from: seafoid on August 07, 2017, 05:16:27 PM
Something strange happened today
There was a Top 3.
https://mobile.twitter.com/TheSundayGame/status/894311536369352705/video/1
https://mobile.twitter.com/TheSundayGame/status/894538083277852672/video/1
Until 2pm
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2017/0807/895734-mayo-v-roscommon/
Not that strange. You're only as good as your last game and up until today, Mayo have struggled in every game.
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 07, 2017, 05:29:46 PM
Quote from: Ball Hopper on August 07, 2017, 05:27:34 PM
Tyrone will have to prove they belong in the conversation the next day out. Seeing as the best Kerry or Mayo can do against Dublin is a draw, what chances Tyrone and Dublin draw?
In fact, what odds both semifinals go to replays?
The best Mayo have done is a draw.
The best Kerry have done is lose.
And thus far Tyrone have failed to qualify for the latter stages and be part of the discussion. New territory for Tyrone. Who knows how they will handle it.
Quote from: Ball Hopper on August 07, 2017, 05:33:53 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 07, 2017, 05:29:46 PM
Quote from: Ball Hopper on August 07, 2017, 05:27:34 PM
Tyrone will have to prove they belong in the conversation the next day out. Seeing as the best Kerry or Mayo can do against Dublin is a draw, what chances Tyrone and Dublin draw?
In fact, what odds both semifinals go to replays?
The best Mayo have done is a draw.
The best Kerry have done is lose.
And thus far Tyrone have failed to qualify for the latter stages and be part of the discussion. New territory for Tyrone. Who knows how they will handle it.
We know Kerry haven't had it against the Dubs.
We know Mayo have had it but shot themselves in the foot.
We don't know whether Tyrone have it or have not.
The known against the unknown.
The only team to topple Dublin under Gavin have been an Ulster side who played a defend in numbers, counter attacking game - similar to Tyrone.
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 07, 2017, 05:36:31 PM
Quote from: Ball Hopper on August 07, 2017, 05:33:53 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 07, 2017, 05:29:46 PM
Quote from: Ball Hopper on August 07, 2017, 05:27:34 PM
Tyrone will have to prove they belong in the conversation the next day out. Seeing as the best Kerry or Mayo can do against Dublin is a draw, what chances Tyrone and Dublin draw?
In fact, what odds both semifinals go to replays?
The best Mayo have done is a draw.
The best Kerry have done is lose.
And thus far Tyrone have failed to qualify for the latter stages and be part of the discussion. New territory for Tyrone. Who knows how they will handle it.
We know Kerry haven't had it against the Dubs.
We know Mayo have had it but shot themselves in the foot.
We don't know whether Tyrone have it or have not.
The known against the unknown.
The only team to topple Dublin under Gavin have been an Ulster side who played a defend in numbers, counter attacking game - similar to Tyrone.
Slightly different tune to saying "Tyrone are only really serious contenders since 2015."
Tyrone have the chance to prove they belong - and I think they will take it.
Does that mean they will beat Dublin - not necessarily...but they have the chance to become serious contenders in 2017.
Quote from: Ball Hopper on August 07, 2017, 05:44:05 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 07, 2017, 05:36:31 PM
Quote from: Ball Hopper on August 07, 2017, 05:33:53 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 07, 2017, 05:29:46 PM
Quote from: Ball Hopper on August 07, 2017, 05:27:34 PM
Tyrone will have to prove they belong in the conversation the next day out. Seeing as the best Kerry or Mayo can do against Dublin is a draw, what chances Tyrone and Dublin draw?
In fact, what odds both semifinals go to replays?
The best Mayo have done is a draw.
The best Kerry have done is lose.
And thus far Tyrone have failed to qualify for the latter stages and be part of the discussion. New territory for Tyrone. Who knows how they will handle it.
We know Kerry haven't had it against the Dubs.
We know Mayo have had it but shot themselves in the foot.
We don't know whether Tyrone have it or have not.
The known against the unknown.
The only team to topple Dublin under Gavin have been an Ulster side who played a defend in numbers, counter attacking game - similar to Tyrone.
Slightly different tune to saying "Tyrone are only really serious contenders since 2015."
Tyrone have the chance to prove they belong - and I think they will take it.
Does that mean they will beat Dublin - not necessarily...but they have the chance to become serious contenders in 2017.
You seem to be changing what a serious contender is. Tyrone are in the last 4 for the second time in 3 years. Results would suggest there is very little between Mayo, Kerry and Tyrone but Dublin are a step above the other 3.
Is there only one contender or is your logic flawed?
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 07, 2017, 05:47:43 PM
Quote from: Ball Hopper on August 07, 2017, 05:44:05 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 07, 2017, 05:36:31 PM
Quote from: Ball Hopper on August 07, 2017, 05:33:53 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 07, 2017, 05:29:46 PM
Quote from: Ball Hopper on August 07, 2017, 05:27:34 PM
Tyrone will have to prove they belong in the conversation the next day out. Seeing as the best Kerry or Mayo can do against Dublin is a draw, what chances Tyrone and Dublin draw?
In fact, what odds both semifinals go to replays?
The best Mayo have done is a draw.
The best Kerry have done is lose.
And thus far Tyrone have failed to qualify for the latter stages and be part of the discussion. New territory for Tyrone. Who knows how they will handle it.
We know Kerry haven't had it against the Dubs.
We know Mayo have had it but shot themselves in the foot.
We don't know whether Tyrone have it or have not.
The known against the unknown.
The only team to topple Dublin under Gavin have been an Ulster side who played a defend in numbers, counter attacking game - similar to Tyrone.
Slightly different tune to saying "Tyrone are only really serious contenders since 2015."
Tyrone have the chance to prove they belong - and I think they will take it.
Does that mean they will beat Dublin - not necessarily...but they have the chance to become serious contenders in 2017.
You seem to be changing what a serious contender is. Tyrone are in the last 4 for the second time in 3 years. Results would suggest there is very little between Mayo, Kerry and Tyrone but Dublin are a step above the other 3.
Is there only one contender or is your logic flawed?
I submit that Tyrone 2017 is superior to Tyrone 2015. Until they beat one of the other contenders (Mayo or Kerry) or put it up to Dublin (get within a score of them), then they are not yet contenders. They can change all that on Aug 27.
Or wait until 2018 if they lose by 10. FWIW, I give them a great chance to not only run Dublin close, but to win.
Tyrone won 2 quarter finals. Jesus H Christ. They are obviously the Real Madrid of gaelic football. What was I thinking of? Winning isnt where it is at.
Quote from: Ball Hopper on August 07, 2017, 05:53:53 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 07, 2017, 05:47:43 PM
Quote from: Ball Hopper on August 07, 2017, 05:44:05 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 07, 2017, 05:36:31 PM
Quote from: Ball Hopper on August 07, 2017, 05:33:53 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 07, 2017, 05:29:46 PM
Quote from: Ball Hopper on August 07, 2017, 05:27:34 PM
Tyrone will have to prove they belong in the conversation the next day out. Seeing as the best Kerry or Mayo can do against Dublin is a draw, what chances Tyrone and Dublin draw?
In fact, what odds both semifinals go to replays?
The best Mayo have done is a draw.
The best Kerry have done is lose.
And thus far Tyrone have failed to qualify for the latter stages and be part of the discussion. New territory for Tyrone. Who knows how they will handle it.
We know Kerry haven't had it against the Dubs.
We know Mayo have had it but shot themselves in the foot.
We don't know whether Tyrone have it or have not.
The known against the unknown.
The only team to topple Dublin under Gavin have been an Ulster side who played a defend in numbers, counter attacking game - similar to Tyrone.
Slightly different tune to saying "Tyrone are only really serious contenders since 2015."
Tyrone have the chance to prove they belong - and I think they will take it.
Does that mean they will beat Dublin - not necessarily...but they have the chance to become serious contenders in 2017.
You seem to be changing what a serious contender is. Tyrone are in the last 4 for the second time in 3 years. Results would suggest there is very little between Mayo, Kerry and Tyrone but Dublin are a step above the other 3.
Is there only one contender or is your logic flawed?
I submit that Tyrone 2017 is superior to Tyrone 2015. Until they beat one of the other contenders (Mayo or Kerry) or put it up to Dublin (get within a score of them), then they are not yet contenders. They can change all that on Aug 27.
Or wait until 2018 if they lose by 10. FWIW, I give them a great chance to not only run Dublin close, but to win.
Mayo haven't beaten one of the big contenders. They've drawn and lost to Kerry and Dublin.
Kerry have a AET victory in a replay over Mayo as their sole win. They've lost to Dublin by 7, 3 and 2 points respectively in 3 attempts.
Your logic is a bit flawed and it would point to there being only one contender.
Dublin are the top 1, there's not a lot to suggest there's much between Kerry, Tyrone and Mayo.
Quote from: seafoid on August 07, 2017, 05:56:40 PM
Tyrone won 2 quarter finals. Jesus H Christ. They are obviously the Real Madrid of gaelic football. What was I thinking of? Winning isnt where it is at.
We'd need to get the abacus out to count how many more Championship football games Tyrone have won than Galway at Croke Park in the past 16 years.
A bit of introspection wouldn't go amiss from yourself.
Galway's Championship record at Croke Park since 2002:
2002 - Kerry (L)
2003 - Donegal (L)
2004 - Tyrone (L)
2005 - Cork (L)
2008 - Kerry (L)
2013 - Cork (L)
2014 - Kerry (L)
2015 - Donegal (L)
2016 - Tipperary (L)
2017 - Kerry (L)
10 straight Championship defeats at Croke Park? Some sort of record surely?
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 07, 2017, 05:59:28 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 07, 2017, 05:56:40 PM
Tyrone won 2 quarter finals. Jesus H Christ. They are obviously the Real Madrid of gaelic football. What was I thinking of? Winning isnt where it is at.
We'd need to get the abacus out to count how many more Championship football games Tyrone have won than Galway at Croke Park in the past 16 years.
A bit of introspection wouldn't go amiss from yourself.
While you are at it, you can count all Irelands. 16 years is very arbitrary
Tyrone haven't done anything yet
Quote from: seafoid on August 07, 2017, 06:08:06 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 07, 2017, 05:59:28 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 07, 2017, 05:56:40 PM
Tyrone won 2 quarter finals. Jesus H Christ. They are obviously the Real Madrid of gaelic football. What was I thinking of? Winning isnt where it is at.
We'd need to get the abacus out to count how many more Championship football games Tyrone have won than Galway at Croke Park in the past 16 years.
A bit of introspection wouldn't go amiss from yourself.
While you are at it, you can count all Irelands. 16 years is very arbitrary
Tyrone haven't done anything yet
Whatever makes you feel better about Galway losing 10 straight Championship games at Croke Park.
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 07, 2017, 05:57:46 PM
Quote from: Ball Hopper on August 07, 2017, 05:53:53 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 07, 2017, 05:47:43 PM
Quote from: Ball Hopper on August 07, 2017, 05:44:05 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 07, 2017, 05:36:31 PM
Quote from: Ball Hopper on August 07, 2017, 05:33:53 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 07, 2017, 05:29:46 PM
Quote from: Ball Hopper on August 07, 2017, 05:27:34 PM
Tyrone will have to prove they belong in the conversation the next day out. Seeing as the best Kerry or Mayo can do against Dublin is a draw, what chances Tyrone and Dublin draw?
In fact, what odds both semifinals go to replays?
The best Mayo have done is a draw.
The best Kerry have done is lose.
And thus far Tyrone have failed to qualify for the latter stages and be part of the discussion. New territory for Tyrone. Who knows how they will handle it.
We know Kerry haven't had it against the Dubs.
We know Mayo have had it but shot themselves in the foot.
We don't know whether Tyrone have it or have not.
The known against the unknown.
The only team to topple Dublin under Gavin have been an Ulster side who played a defend in numbers, counter attacking game - similar to Tyrone.
Slightly different tune to saying "Tyrone are only really serious contenders since 2015."
Tyrone have the chance to prove they belong - and I think they will take it.
Does that mean they will beat Dublin - not necessarily...but they have the chance to become serious contenders in 2017.
You seem to be changing what a serious contender is. Tyrone are in the last 4 for the second time in 3 years. Results would suggest there is very little between Mayo, Kerry and Tyrone but Dublin are a step above the other 3.
Is there only one contender or is your logic flawed?
I submit that Tyrone 2017 is superior to Tyrone 2015. Until they beat one of the other contenders (Mayo or Kerry) or put it up to Dublin (get within a score of them), then they are not yet contenders. They can change all that on Aug 27.
Or wait until 2018 if they lose by 10. FWIW, I give them a great chance to not only run Dublin close, but to win.
Mayo haven't beaten one of the big contenders. They've drawn and lost to Kerry and Dublin.
Kerry have a AET victory in a replay over Mayo as their sole win. They've lost to Dublin by 7, 3 and 2 points respectively in 3 attempts.
Your logic is a bit flawed and it would point to there being only one contender.
Dublin are the top 1, there's not a lot to suggest there's much between Kerry, Tyrone and Mayo.
There's not a lot to suggest Tyrone belong there yet...losses to Mayo x 2 and to Kerry over the last 3 years is their record.
They can fix all that on Aug 27 and declare they belong as a contender at least.
But for the draw, how would Tyrone fare against either Mayo or Kerry in a semifinal this year? I think Tyrone would be favourites against either.
Quote from: Ball Hopper on August 07, 2017, 06:20:56 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 07, 2017, 05:57:46 PM
Quote from: Ball Hopper on August 07, 2017, 05:53:53 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 07, 2017, 05:47:43 PM
Quote from: Ball Hopper on August 07, 2017, 05:44:05 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 07, 2017, 05:36:31 PM
Quote from: Ball Hopper on August 07, 2017, 05:33:53 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 07, 2017, 05:29:46 PM
Quote from: Ball Hopper on August 07, 2017, 05:27:34 PM
Tyrone will have to prove they belong in the conversation the next day out. Seeing as the best Kerry or Mayo can do against Dublin is a draw, what chances Tyrone and Dublin draw?
In fact, what odds both semifinals go to replays?
The best Mayo have done is a draw.
The best Kerry have done is lose.
And thus far Tyrone have failed to qualify for the latter stages and be part of the discussion. New territory for Tyrone. Who knows how they will handle it.
We know Kerry haven't had it against the Dubs.
We know Mayo have had it but shot themselves in the foot.
We don't know whether Tyrone have it or have not.
The known against the unknown.
The only team to topple Dublin under Gavin have been an Ulster side who played a defend in numbers, counter attacking game - similar to Tyrone.
Slightly different tune to saying "Tyrone are only really serious contenders since 2015."
Tyrone have the chance to prove they belong - and I think they will take it.
Does that mean they will beat Dublin - not necessarily...but they have the chance to become serious contenders in 2017.
You seem to be changing what a serious contender is. Tyrone are in the last 4 for the second time in 3 years. Results would suggest there is very little between Mayo, Kerry and Tyrone but Dublin are a step above the other 3.
Is there only one contender or is your logic flawed?
I submit that Tyrone 2017 is superior to Tyrone 2015. Until they beat one of the other contenders (Mayo or Kerry) or put it up to Dublin (get within a score of them), then they are not yet contenders. They can change all that on Aug 27.
Or wait until 2018 if they lose by 10. FWIW, I give them a great chance to not only run Dublin close, but to win.
Mayo haven't beaten one of the big contenders. They've drawn and lost to Kerry and Dublin.
Kerry have a AET victory in a replay over Mayo as their sole win. They've lost to Dublin by 7, 3 and 2 points respectively in 3 attempts.
Your logic is a bit flawed and it would point to there being only one contender.
Dublin are the top 1, there's not a lot to suggest there's much between Kerry, Tyrone and Mayo.
There's not a lot to suggest Tyrone belong there yet...losses to Mayo x 2 and to Kerry over the last 3 years is their record.
They can fix all that on Aug 27 and declare they belong as a contender at least.
But for the draw, how would Tyrone fare against either Mayo or Kerry in a semifinal this year? I think Tyrone would be favourites against either.
There's not a lot to suggest Kerry or Mayo belong there using your logic either.
Mayo and Kerry have both had three attempts against Dublin under Jim Gavin now and won zero.
There's a big 1 and three others who could conceivably put it up to them.
Any sign of Syferus?
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Tyrone will have to prove they belong in the conversation the next day out. Seeing as the best Kerry or Mayo can do against Dublin is a draw, what chances Tyrone and Dublin draw?
In fact, what odds both semifinals go to replays?
The best Mayo have done is a draw.
The best Kerry have done is lose.
And thus far Tyrone have failed to qualify for the latter stages and be part of the discussion. New territory for Tyrone. Who knows how they will handle it.
We know Kerry haven't had it against the Dubs.
We know Mayo have had it but shot themselves in the foot.
We don't know whether Tyrone have it or have not.
The known against the unknown.
The only team to topple Dublin under Gavin have been an Ulster side who played a defend in numbers, counter attacking game - similar to Tyrone.
Slightly different tune to saying "Tyrone are only really serious contenders since 2015."
Tyrone have the chance to prove they belong - and I think they will take it.
Does that mean they will beat Dublin - not necessarily...but they have the chance to become serious contenders in 2017.
You seem to be changing what a serious contender is. Tyrone are in the last 4 for the second time in 3 years. Results would suggest there is very little between Mayo, Kerry and Tyrone but Dublin are a step above the other 3.
Is there only one contender or is your logic flawed?
I submit that Tyrone 2017 is superior to Tyrone 2015. Until they beat one of the other contenders (Mayo or Kerry) or put it up to Dublin (get within a score of them), then they are not yet contenders. They can change all that on Aug 27.
Or wait until 2018 if they lose by 10. FWIW, I give them a great chance to not only run Dublin close, but to win.
Mayo haven't beaten one of the big contenders. They've drawn and lost to Kerry and Dublin.
Kerry have a AET victory in a replay over Mayo as their sole win. They've lost to Dublin by 7, 3 and 2 points respectively in 3 attempts.
Your logic is a bit flawed and it would point to there being only one contender.
Dublin are the top 1, there's not a lot to suggest there's much between Kerry, Tyrone and Mayo.
There's not a lot to suggest Tyrone belong there yet...losses to Mayo x 2 and to Kerry over the last 3 years is their record.
They can fix all that on Aug 27 and declare they belong as a contender at least.
But for the draw, how would Tyrone fare against either Mayo or Kerry in a semifinal this year? I think Tyrone would be favourites against either.
There's not a lot to suggest Kerry or Mayo belong there using your logic either.
Mayo and Kerry have both had three attempts against Dublin under Jim Gavin now and won zero.
There's a big 1 and three others who could conceivably put it up to them.
Mayo and Kerry have survived long enough in the championship to play Dublin...Tyrone haven't.
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Tyrone will have to prove they belong in the conversation the next day out. Seeing as the best Kerry or Mayo can do against Dublin is a draw, what chances Tyrone and Dublin draw?
In fact, what odds both semifinals go to replays?
The best Mayo have done is a draw.
The best Kerry have done is lose.
And thus far Tyrone have failed to qualify for the latter stages and be part of the discussion. New territory for Tyrone. Who knows how they will handle it.
We know Kerry haven't had it against the Dubs.
We know Mayo have had it but shot themselves in the foot.
We don't know whether Tyrone have it or have not.
The known against the unknown.
The only team to topple Dublin under Gavin have been an Ulster side who played a defend in numbers, counter attacking game - similar to Tyrone.
Slightly different tune to saying "Tyrone are only really serious contenders since 2015."
Tyrone have the chance to prove they belong - and I think they will take it.
Does that mean they will beat Dublin - not necessarily...but they have the chance to become serious contenders in 2017.
You seem to be changing what a serious contender is. Tyrone are in the last 4 for the second time in 3 years. Results would suggest there is very little between Mayo, Kerry and Tyrone but Dublin are a step above the other 3.
Is there only one contender or is your logic flawed?
I submit that Tyrone 2017 is superior to Tyrone 2015. Until they beat one of the other contenders (Mayo or Kerry) or put it up to Dublin (get within a score of them), then they are not yet contenders. They can change all that on Aug 27.
Or wait until 2018 if they lose by 10. FWIW, I give them a great chance to not only run Dublin close, but to win.
Mayo haven't beaten one of the big contenders. They've drawn and lost to Kerry and Dublin.
Kerry have a AET victory in a replay over Mayo as their sole win. They've lost to Dublin by 7, 3 and 2 points respectively in 3 attempts.
Your logic is a bit flawed and it would point to there being only one contender.
Dublin are the top 1, there's not a lot to suggest there's much between Kerry, Tyrone and Mayo.
There's not a lot to suggest Tyrone belong there yet...losses to Mayo x 2 and to Kerry over the last 3 years is their record.
They can fix all that on Aug 27 and declare they belong as a contender at least.
But for the draw, how would Tyrone fare against either Mayo or Kerry in a semifinal this year? I think Tyrone would be favourites against either.
There's not a lot to suggest Kerry or Mayo belong there using your logic either.
Mayo and Kerry have both had three attempts against Dublin under Jim Gavin now and won zero.
There's a big 1 and three others who could conceivably put it up to them.
Mayo and Kerry have survived long enough in the championship to play Dublin...Tyrone haven't.
I fail to see how that makes them contenders, they have had three meetings with Dublin each and failed to win.
You seems to have problems agreeing your criteria of what is a contender or not with yourself.
Seems to be an awful lot of arguing over the positions of the also rans
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Tyrone will have to prove they belong in the conversation the next day out. Seeing as the best Kerry or Mayo can do against Dublin is a draw, what chances Tyrone and Dublin draw?
In fact, what odds both semifinals go to replays?
The best Mayo have done is a draw.
The best Kerry have done is lose.
And thus far Tyrone have failed to qualify for the latter stages and be part of the discussion. New territory for Tyrone. Who knows how they will handle it.
We know Kerry haven't had it against the Dubs.
We know Mayo have had it but shot themselves in the foot.
We don't know whether Tyrone have it or have not.
The known against the unknown.
The only team to topple Dublin under Gavin have been an Ulster side who played a defend in numbers, counter attacking game - similar to Tyrone.
Slightly different tune to saying "Tyrone are only really serious contenders since 2015."
Tyrone have the chance to prove they belong - and I think they will take it.
Does that mean they will beat Dublin - not necessarily...but they have the chance to become serious contenders in 2017.
You seem to be changing what a serious contender is. Tyrone are in the last 4 for the second time in 3 years. Results would suggest there is very little between Mayo, Kerry and Tyrone but Dublin are a step above the other 3.
Is there only one contender or is your logic flawed?
I submit that Tyrone 2017 is superior to Tyrone 2015. Until they beat one of the other contenders (Mayo or Kerry) or put it up to Dublin (get within a score of them), then they are not yet contenders. They can change all that on Aug 27.
Or wait until 2018 if they lose by 10. FWIW, I give them a great chance to not only run Dublin close, but to win.
Mayo haven't beaten one of the big contenders. They've drawn and lost to Kerry and Dublin.
Kerry have a AET victory in a replay over Mayo as their sole win. They've lost to Dublin by 7, 3 and 2 points respectively in 3 attempts.
Your logic is a bit flawed and it would point to there being only one contender.
Dublin are the top 1, there's not a lot to suggest there's much between Kerry, Tyrone and Mayo.
There's not a lot to suggest Tyrone belong there yet...losses to Mayo x 2 and to Kerry over the last 3 years is their record.
They can fix all that on Aug 27 and declare they belong as a contender at least.
But for the draw, how would Tyrone fare against either Mayo or Kerry in a semifinal this year? I think Tyrone would be favourites against either.
There's not a lot to suggest Kerry or Mayo belong there using your logic either.
Mayo and Kerry have both had three attempts against Dublin under Jim Gavin now and won zero.
There's a big 1 and three others who could conceivably put it up to them.
You said Tyrone have been contenders since 2015. They have not.
They can change that on Aug 27.
Mayo and Kerry have lost to Dublin at the latter stages of the championship by relatively small margins in Kerry's case and by the smallest possible in Mayo's case. Consensus is Dublin are the big 1, with Mayo and Kerry the contenders.
Teams beaten by Mayo and Kerry are therefore in the next level below. For that to change, Mayo and Kerry must step up or step backward. Since both are in the semifinal, the only way up is the winner beats Dublin.
Or those below contender status must step up. Tyrone have a chance to step up to contender status at least...and maybe make it a big 2 if they go all the way.
That is all.
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Seems to be an awful lot of arguing over the positions of the also rans
Correct, and I'm out.
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Tyrone will have to prove they belong in the conversation the next day out. Seeing as the best Kerry or Mayo can do against Dublin is a draw, what chances Tyrone and Dublin draw?
In fact, what odds both semifinals go to replays?
The best Mayo have done is a draw.
The best Kerry have done is lose.
And thus far Tyrone have failed to qualify for the latter stages and be part of the discussion. New territory for Tyrone. Who knows how they will handle it.
We know Kerry haven't had it against the Dubs.
We know Mayo have had it but shot themselves in the foot.
We don't know whether Tyrone have it or have not.
The known against the unknown.
The only team to topple Dublin under Gavin have been an Ulster side who played a defend in numbers, counter attacking game - similar to Tyrone.
Slightly different tune to saying "Tyrone are only really serious contenders since 2015."
Tyrone have the chance to prove they belong - and I think they will take it.
Does that mean they will beat Dublin - not necessarily...but they have the chance to become serious contenders in 2017.
You seem to be changing what a serious contender is. Tyrone are in the last 4 for the second time in 3 years. Results would suggest there is very little between Mayo, Kerry and Tyrone but Dublin are a step above the other 3.
Is there only one contender or is your logic flawed?
I submit that Tyrone 2017 is superior to Tyrone 2015. Until they beat one of the other contenders (Mayo or Kerry) or put it up to Dublin (get within a score of them), then they are not yet contenders. They can change all that on Aug 27.
Or wait until 2018 if they lose by 10. FWIW, I give them a great chance to not only run Dublin close, but to win.
Mayo haven't beaten one of the big contenders. They've drawn and lost to Kerry and Dublin.
Kerry have a AET victory in a replay over Mayo as their sole win. They've lost to Dublin by 7, 3 and 2 points respectively in 3 attempts.
Your logic is a bit flawed and it would point to there being only one contender.
Dublin are the top 1, there's not a lot to suggest there's much between Kerry, Tyrone and Mayo.
There's not a lot to suggest Tyrone belong there yet...losses to Mayo x 2 and to Kerry over the last 3 years is their record.
They can fix all that on Aug 27 and declare they belong as a contender at least.
But for the draw, how would Tyrone fare against either Mayo or Kerry in a semifinal this year? I think Tyrone would be favourites against either.
There's not a lot to suggest Kerry or Mayo belong there using your logic either.
Mayo and Kerry have both had three attempts against Dublin under Jim Gavin now and won zero.
There's a big 1 and three others who could conceivably put it up to them.
You said Tyrone have been contenders since 2015. They have not.
They can change that on Aug 27.
Mayo and Kerry have lost to Dublin at the latter stages of the championship by relatively small margins in Kerry's case and by the smallest possible in Mayo's case. Consensus is Dublin are the big 1, with Mayo and Kerry the contenders.
Teams beaten by Mayo and Kerry are therefore in the next level below. For that to change, Mayo and Kerry must step up or step backward. Since both are in the semifinal, the only way up is the winner beats Dublin.
Or those below contender status must step up. Tyrone have a chance to step up to contender status at least...and maybe make it a big 2 if they go all the way.
That is all.
They have been as much contenders as Mayo and Kerry have in that time.
Tyrone haven't got to a final, Bomber. It does mean something outside your head.
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Aiden O'Shea MOM baffles me. Thought he was useless.
Would have given it to Higgins myself but in no way was Aidan average. He set the tone at the start of the game.
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Tyrone haven't got to a final, Bomber. It does mean something outside your head.
Introspection seems to be lost on you.
Anything to take your mind off the fact Galway football is dead and has the ignominy of being on a streak of 10 straight Championship defeats at Croke Park
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Aiden O'Shea MOM baffles me. Thought he was useless.
Would have given it to Higgins myself but in no way was Aidan average. He set the tone at the start of the game.
He had a good game certainly but he'll get away with that against Roscommon. Carrying the ball into the tackle like that so often won't cut it against Kerry, Dublin or Tyrone.
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Aiden O'Shea MOM baffles me. Thought he was useless.
Would have given it to Higgins myself but in no way was Aidan average. He set the tone at the start of the game.
He had a good game certainly but he'll get away with that against Roscommon. Carrying the ball into the tackle like that so often won't cut it against Kerry, Dublin or Tyrone.
He seems to actively seek out defenders to break through like a bull. Works against your weaker counties but god help him if he tries it against tyrone.
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 07, 2017, 06:39:49 PM
Seems to be an awful lot of arguing over the positions of the also rans
That's the rub, Mac. As tough as today was to watch, if Mayo went on and beat Dublin and showed that all romance and intrigue hasn't been robbed from inter-county football it would be worth it. This sport is slowly dying at the top level.
We have a superpower and two teams that can give them a game of if conditions are right. This is a supposedly amateur sport, of course. Maybe Tyrone can give them a game too, but I have severe doubts. I'm not sure anyone can genuinely stop Dublin when they turn up, complacency is more their enemy than any county.
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Aiden O'Shea MOM baffles me. Thought he was useless.
Would have given it to Higgins myself but in no way was Aidan average. He set the tone at the start of the game.
He had a good game certainly but he'll get away with that against Roscommon. Carrying the ball into the tackle like that so often won't cut it against Kerry, Dublin or Tyrone.
Wrong as it seems, I have to agree with you there
Tough going for Roscommon. We've been there in 04/06 on the end of serious clippings.
7th Semi final in a row for our lads, we might not see the like of it again with this team is dusht.
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Quote from: Whishtup on August 07, 2017, 03:38:41 PM
Aiden O'Shea MOM baffles me. Thought he was useless.
Would have given it to Higgins myself but in no way was Aidan average. He set the tone at the start of the game.
He had a good game certainly but he'll get away with that against Roscommon. Carrying the ball into the tackle like that so often won't cut it against Kerry, Dublin or Tyrone.
Wrong as it seems, I have to agree with you there
He's playing very well this year (apart from last week where he looked flat from the ET the week before) and Mayo would probably be out only for him. It's the big stuff now though and O'Shea will have to tailor his game accordingly, while he has certainly developed in certain aspects as a footballer since minor, he still seems to hold that minor mentality where he thinks he can do it all himself and steamroll through teams. It works against the lesser teams but it's part of the reason why he has so much questions about him in the bigger games.
Mayo looked a lot tighter at the back with no Cafferkey today but they'll need to make plans for Donaghy, he hasn't gone away and he's been the scourge of Mayo teams for decades.
B Moran is the man for Donaghy but probably not fit. I'd probably play him if he's any way ready
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Tyrone haven't got to a final, Bomber. It does mean something outside your head.
Introspection seems to be lost on you.
Anything to take your mind off the fact Galway football is dead and has the ignominy of being on a streak of 10 straight Championship defeats at Croke Park
Sure he still has the hurling to look forward to which is a bigger prize.
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Quote from: seafoid on August 07, 2017, 06:53:47 PM
Tyrone haven't got to a final, Bomber. It does mean something outside your head.
Introspection seems to be lost on you.
Anything to take your mind off the fact Galway football is dead and has the ignominy of being on a streak of 10 straight Championship defeats at Croke Park
Sure haven't we got the hurlers to focus on now ?
Who cares about losing streaks. We'll have the makings of a good team again. Ni uasal agus iseal ach thuas seal agus thios seal
Many of us remember when ye didn't have an arse in your football trousers
Tyrone were so excited to make it to a semi in 95
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxeAr3n2Ous
Quote from: Syferus on August 07, 2017, 07:28:11 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 07, 2017, 06:39:49 PM
Seems to be an awful lot of arguing over the positions of the also rans
That's the rub, Mac. As tough as today was to watch, if Mayo went on and beat Dublin and showed that all romance and intrigue hasn't been robbed from inter-county football it would be worth it. This sport is slowly dying at the top level.
We have a superpower and two teams that can give them a game of if conditions are right. This is a supposedly amateur sport, of course. Maybe Tyrone can give them a game too, but I have severe doubts. I'm not sure anyone can genuinely stop Dublin when they turn up, complacency is more their enemy than any county.
Hard luck, Syf. It is a horrible feeling going home after a loss like that.
It's all about learning from the bad days.
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Quote from: seafoid on August 07, 2017, 06:53:47 PM
Tyrone haven't got to a final, Bomber. It does mean something outside your head.
Introspection seems to be lost on you.
Anything to take your mind off the fact Galway football is dead and has the ignominy of being on a streak of 10 straight Championship defeats at Croke Park
Sure haven't we got the hurlers to focus on now ?
Who cares about losing streaks. We'll have the makings of a good team again. Ni uasal agus iseal ach thuas seal agus thios seal
Many of us remember when ye didn't have an arse in your football trousers
Tyrone were so excited to make it to a semi in 95
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxeAr3n2Ous
Bizarre outlook.
Galway football has had the makings of a good team for 15 years plus but they have shipped nothing only hammerings in Croke Park.
Jasus lads that was awful from us today.
We were back to our worst NFL stuff and seemed totally physically unable to perform 8 days after a big match unlike the Rhubarbs who upped things in a big way.
Leaving Fintan and Ciaráin off was very strange and while Fitzmaurice wasn't too bad it was baffling springing him from nowhere in such a major game.
Not a time for pointing fingers at individual players but fee emerged with much credit today.
A very disappointing end to a good Summer.
Back to the drawing board.
ouch
that was bad
hammered every where
best of luck to Mayo next day out
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Quote from: seafoid on August 07, 2017, 06:53:47 PM
Tyrone haven't got to a final, Bomber. It does mean something outside your head.
Introspection seems to be lost on you.
Anything to take your mind off the fact Galway football is dead and has the ignominy of being on a streak of 10 straight Championship defeats at Croke Park
Sure haven't we got the hurlers to focus on now ?
Who cares about losing streaks. We'll have the makings of a good team again. Ni uasal agus iseal ach thuas seal agus thios seal
Many of us remember when ye didn't have an arse in your football trousers
Tyrone were so excited to make it to a semi in 95
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxeAr3n2Ous
Bizarre outlook.
Galway football has had the makings of a good team for 15 years plus but they have shipped nothing only hammerings in Croke Park.
1925
9 years to 1934 and 38
18 years to 1956
8 years to 64 65 then 66
32 years to 98 then 01
16 years is within the standard deviation
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Quote from: seafoid on August 07, 2017, 06:53:47 PM
Tyrone haven't got to a final, Bomber. It does mean something outside your head.
Introspection seems to be lost on you.
Anything to take your mind off the fact Galway football is dead and has the ignominy of being on a streak of 10 straight Championship defeats at Croke Park
Sure haven't we got the hurlers to focus on now ?
Who cares about losing streaks. We'll have the makings of a good team again. Ni uasal agus iseal ach thuas seal agus thios seal
Many of us remember when ye didn't have an arse in your football trousers
Tyrone were so excited to make it to a semi in 95
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxeAr3n2Ous
Bizarre outlook.
Galway football has had the makings of a good team for 15 years plus but they have shipped nothing only hammerings in Croke Park.
1925
9 years to 1934 and 38
18 years to 1956
8 years to 64 65 then 66
32 years to 98 then 01
16 years is within the standard deviation
You're very naive.
Galway football, like Meath, is dead, never to return again.
Pure dirt from Cregg today by the way.
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Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 07, 2017, 07:24:39 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 07, 2017, 06:53:47 PM
Tyrone haven't got to a final, Bomber. It does mean something outside your head.
Introspection seems to be lost on you.
Anything to take your mind off the fact Galway football is dead and has the ignominy of being on a streak of 10 straight Championship defeats at Croke Park
Sure haven't we got the hurlers to focus on now ?
Who cares about losing streaks. We'll have the makings of a good team again. Ni uasal agus iseal ach thuas seal agus thios seal
Many of us remember when ye didn't have an arse in your football trousers
Tyrone were so excited to make it to a semi in 95
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxeAr3n2Ous
Bizarre outlook.
Galway football has had the makings of a good team for 15 years plus but they have shipped nothing only hammerings in Croke Park.
1925
9 years to 1934 and 38
18 years to 1956
8 years to 64 65 then 66
32 years to 98 then 01
16 years is within the standard deviation
You're very naive.
Galway football, like Meath, is dead, never to return again.
Thanks for the laughs Bomber.
2 quotes from Goethe
It is important not to exaggerate the importance of one's own times.
There is nothing more frightening than ignorance in action
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Quote from: seafoid on August 07, 2017, 06:53:47 PM
Tyrone haven't got to a final, Bomber. It does mean something outside your head.
Introspection seems to be lost on you.
Anything to take your mind off the fact Galway football is dead and has the ignominy of being on a streak of 10 straight Championship defeats at Croke Park
Sure haven't we got the hurlers to focus on now ?
Who cares about losing streaks. We'll have the makings of a good team again. Ni uasal agus iseal ach thuas seal agus thios seal
Many of us remember when ye didn't have an arse in your football trousers
Tyrone were so excited to make it to a semi in 95
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxeAr3n2Ous
Bizarre outlook.
Galway football has had the makings of a good team for 15 years plus but they have shipped nothing only hammerings in Croke Park.
1925
9 years to 1934 and 38
18 years to 1956
8 years to 64 65 then 66
32 years to 98 then 01
16 years is within the standard deviation
You're very naive.
Galway football, like Meath, is dead, never to return again.
Thanks for the laughs Bomber.
2 quotes from Goethe
It is important not to exaggerate the importance of one's own times.
There is nothing more frightening than ignorance in action
You're like a man with no country.
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Tyrone haven't got to a final, Bomber. It does mean something outside your head.
Introspection seems to be lost on you.
Anything to take your mind off the fact Galway football is dead and has the ignominy of being on a streak of 10 straight Championship defeats at Croke Park
Sure haven't we got the hurlers to focus on now ?
Who cares about losing streaks. We'll have the makings of a good team again. Ni uasal agus iseal ach thuas seal agus thios seal
Many of us remember when ye didn't have an arse in your football trousers
Tyrone were so excited to make it to a semi in 95
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxeAr3n2Ous
Bizarre outlook.
Galway football has had the makings of a good team for 15 years plus but they have shipped nothing only hammerings in Croke Park.
1925
9 years to 1934 and 38
18 years to 1956
8 years to 64 65 then 66
32 years to 98 then 01
16 years is within the standard deviation
You're very naive.
Galway football, like Meath, is dead, never to return again.
Thanks for the laughs Bomber.
2 quotes from Goethe
It is important not to exaggerate the importance of one's own times.
There is nothing more frightening than ignorance in action
You're wasting your breath there Seafoid. Il Bomber Destro strikes me as a man who'll always struggle to separate the sheep from the Goethes.
Great performance from Mayo. Credit to where credit is due. This team have been wonderful for the past 7 years. Our lot were a shambles but hopefully will winter well and step up another bit next year and try to win a championship game in Croke Park.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGox1LGW0AAqWsE.jpg)
The stat that jumps out to me is only 18 out of 37 scoring chances from play converted for Mayo.
On a day when Roscommon's defence was MIA that's pretty poor stuff and I think that's whats going to trip them up against Kerry.
Wow, mojo back from Mayo!
Felt bad for Rossies (once they were well and truly buried), we had horrible days in 04/06. Can't doubt these boys, only support them as best we can. Legends
Quote from: Tubberman on August 07, 2017, 08:35:02 PM
Wow, mojo back from Mayo!
Felt bad for Rossies (once they were well and truly buried), we had horrible days in 04/06. Can't doubt these boys, only support them as best we can. Legends
Carburetor fixed since last week then? No more fumes? :D
Quote from: ballinaman on August 07, 2017, 08:17:14 PM
Pure dirt from Cregg today by the way.
DOC got away the whole game hitting and pulling off the ball. he swung twice for roscommon players
going around looking to antagonise opponents. even managed to get his two feet into Diarmuid Murtagh and it wasn't noticed by any official
he's a disgrace
I was mid Atlantic during the game, i asked the Steward to check the final score for me, when he finslly told me I thought the crew were taking the piss. A nice surprise upon arrival 😊
Quote from: Rossfan on August 07, 2017, 07:51:59 PM
Jasus lads that was awful from us today.
We were back to our worst NFL stuff and seemed totally physically unable to perform 8 days after a big match unlike the Rhubarbs who upped things in a big way.
Leaving Fintan and Ciaráin off was very strange and while Fitzmaurice wasn't too bad it was baffling springing him from nowhere in such a major game.
Not a time for pointing fingers at individual players but fee emerged with much credit today.
A very disappointing end to a good Summer.
Back to the drawing board.
Oh dear.. back to the drawing board he says..and only yesterday ye were standing on the cusp of greatness.. .
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Do I sense a nervousness from the land of stolen sheep . Aye I thought so.
When your standing on the cusp of greatness it can generate a few butterflies.
Tomorrow is a day for not taking one backward step. Look them in the eye and lave them floundering on their fat Rhubarb arses.
Even if we don't win just let us live up to our motto be "NOT ONE STEP BACKWARDS"
Alarm set, flashkeen washed, sandwich material bought, tractor filled with dodgy diesel ...... what can possibly go wrong?
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Quote from: Rossfan on August 07, 2017, 07:51:59 PM
Jasus lads that was awful from us today.
We were back to our worst NFL stuff and seemed totally physically unable to perform 8 days after a big match unlike the Rhubarbs who upped things in a big way.
Leaving Fintan and Ciaráin off was very strange and while Fitzmaurice wasn't too bad it was baffling springing him from nowhere in such a major game.
Not a time for pointing fingers at individual players but fee emerged with much credit today.
A very disappointing end to a good Summer.
Back to the drawing board.
Oh dear.. back to ths drawing board he says..and only yesterday he were standing on the cusp of greatness.. .
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Quote from: larryin89 on August 06, 2017, 06:17:41 PM
Do I sense a nervousness from the land of stolen sheep . Aye I thought so.
When your standing on the cusp of greatness it can generate a few butterflies.
Tomorrow is a day for not taking one backward step. Look them in the eye and lave them floundering on their fat Rhubarb arses.
Even if we don't win just let us live up to our motto be "NOT ONE STEP BACKWARDS"
Alarm set, flashkeen washed, sandwich material bought, tractor filled with dodgy diesel ...... what can possibly go wrong?
you wonder why some people over the shannon don't want ye to win an AI
just be glad yer lads played very well today and enjoy the win.
Haha we dont gaf about who wants us to win an AI . Honestly mayo as a whole are so past sucking up the pity.
Bomber but Tyrone havent beaten Mayo and played them twice since 13.
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Bomber but Tyrone havent beaten Mayo and played them twice since 13.
True but what does that prove?
This Mayo team has been on the road since 2011 and have failed to beat Kerry under Fitzmaurice or Dublin under Gavin on four occasions.
Completely different Tyrone side now to 2013, I think only 8 of the 21 who played that day remain.
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Quote from: Rossfan on August 07, 2017, 07:51:59 PM
Jasus lads that was awful from us today.
We were back to our worst NFL stuff and seemed totally physically unable to perform 8 days after a big match unlike the Rhubarbs who upped things in a big way.
Leaving Fintan and Ciaráin off was very strange and while Fitzmaurice wasn't too bad it was baffling springing him from nowhere in such a major game.
Not a time for pointing fingers at individual players but fee emerged with much credit today.
A very disappointing end to a good Summer.
Back to the drawing board.
Oh dear.. back to the drawing board he says..and only yesterday ye were standing on the cusp of greatness.. .
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Quote from: larryin89 on August 06, 2017, 06:17:41 PM
Do I sense a nervousness from the land of stolen sheep . Aye I thought so.
When your standing on the cusp of greatness it can generate a few butterflies.
Tomorrow is a day for not taking one backward step. Look them in the eye and lave them floundering on their fat Rhubarb arses.
Even if we don't win just let us live up to our motto be "NOT ONE STEP BACKWARDS"
Alarm set, flashkeen washed, sandwich material bought, tractor filled with dodgy diesel ...... what can possibly go wrong?
You'll note I did ask what could possibly go wrong. Well now I know.......
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Tyrone will have to prove they belong in the conversation the next day out. Seeing as the best Kerry or Mayo can do against Dublin is a draw, what chances Tyrone and Dublin draw?
In fact, what odds both semifinals go to replays?
The best Mayo have done is a draw.
The best Kerry have done is lose.
And thus far Tyrone have failed to qualify for the latter stages and be part of the discussion. New territory for Tyrone. Who knows how they will handle it.
We know Kerry haven't had it against the Dubs.
We know Mayo have had it but shot themselves in the foot.
We don't know whether Tyrone have it or have not.
The known against the unknown.
The only team to topple Dublin under Gavin have been an Ulster side who played a defend in numbers, counter attacking game - similar to Tyrone.
They had Michael Murphy, Mc fadden and Mc Brearty
You have your best inside forwards on the bench.
Weve only played kerry once with this team (11 was only infancy) and were beaten after a replay by cormac reilly. Im not at all sure how to predict our semi but we will give kerry their fill of it im sure, they wont like to see our buck run at them . Higgans looked like a 21 year old out there todsy, solan has them in serious condition . I really thought the zip was gone out of them but its obviously not.
It will be a belter of a battle.
Hard luck Rossies, I know the pain of a tanning like that, '93 was one of our worst days. I can only imagine what it's like when it's your neighbour.
Don't know how anyone could question AOS as MOTM, other than they maybe think Parsons, Harrison or Higgins pipped him. All four were outstanding today
I wouldn't question the stats either, FFS there were lads taking shits that would never dream it near the end there. Likewise if Drake was in that position against Kerry we'd be looking for a goal
Today will give this team a real boost IMO, instead of the limping along we've had all summer we can now create the narrative that Mayo keep their best football for August and September and that the seven games so far will stand to us, especially our fitness
After the past two weekends I'm convinced the hidings are as much to do with superior physicality & maturity as much as tactics, when those two things are spot on playing football is a much easier game. Talent and tactics obviously have their part to play.
I think Dublin and Kerry would have scored 7-30 today. Ultimately that's why i don't think Mayo will win the AI.
Don't know where Roscommon go after that. I think the biggest issue was their inability to dig in and at least make it respectable. But the Connacht title means nothing after a tanking like that.
They're very young, they've a big enough future ahead of them if they want it bad enough and they're properly supported by their County board.
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They're very young, they've a big enough future ahead of them if they want it bad enough and they're properly supported by their County board.
Far too much made of a youth card . Its like using a band aid around a leaking pipe when you're beaten.
They were clueless and didn't dig in either. Not traits I'd associate with future promise.
Mayo finally woke out of their summer slumber while Roscommon after giving two good defensive displays against Galway and Mayo were at their defensive worst today. It was total mismatch hard to believe Roscommon could be the opposite from their competitive performance last week when they flew in challenges like their lives depended on it. Worst of all they threw in the towel as soon as the first goal was scored and had no desire to even win the 2nd half. A young team with a lot to learn and McStay if he stays will need a bit more help on the sideline than McHale and a bit more strength in depth in the panel. Like i mean who starts a player in All Ireland quarter final that has never played a senior game before?
Mayos performance was very similar to the tanking Tyrone and Kerry gave to Dublin in 2008,2009 and both of those sides went on to win the All Ireland those years. Should Mayo dare to dream now?
Quote from: bennydorano on August 07, 2017, 10:26:21 PM
After the past two weekends I'm convinced the hidings are as much to do with superior physicality & maturity as much as tactics, when those two things are spot on playing football is a much easier game. Talent and tactics obviously have their part to play.
There is something about the game now that advantages the incumbents. Maybe it's the lack of openness. Or money or something else. If you think about 96-01 3 teams shared 6 Sams but by the end there was a handover to Armagh and tyrone. It's 6 years since the Dubs won in 2011 but there is no alternative group on the horizon.
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Tyrone will have to prove they belong in the conversation the next day out. Seeing as the best Kerry or Mayo can do against Dublin is a draw, what chances Tyrone and Dublin draw?
In fact, what odds both semifinals go to replays?
Don't let the facts get in the way of misguided nonsense though.
The best Mayo have done is a draw.
The best Kerry have done is lose.
And thus far Tyrone have failed to qualify for the latter stages and be part of the discussion. New territory for Tyrone. Who knows how they will handle it.
We know Kerry haven't had it against the Dubs.
We know Mayo have had it but shot themselves in the foot.
We don't know whether Tyrone have it or have not.
The known against the unknown.
The only team to topple Dublin under Gavin have been an Ulster side who played a defend in numbers, counter attacking game - similar to Tyrone.
They had Michael Murphy, Mc fadden and Mc Brearty
You have your best inside forwards on the bench.
They had McBrearty on the bench.
Murphy played the majority of his football in the middle of the pitch and McFadden was getting stick as he had been badly out of form that year.
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Quote from: Ball Hopper on August 07, 2017, 05:27:34 PM
Tyrone will have to prove they belong in the conversation the next day out. Seeing as the best Kerry or Mayo can do against Dublin is a draw, what chances Tyrone and Dublin draw?
In fact, what odds both semifinals go to replays?
Don't let the facts get in the way of misguided nonsense though.
The best Mayo have done is a draw.
The best Kerry have done is lose.
And thus far Tyrone have failed to qualify for the latter stages and be part of the discussion. New territory for Tyrone. Who knows how they will handle it.
We know Kerry haven't had it against the Dubs.
We know Mayo have had it but shot themselves in the foot.
We don't know whether Tyrone have it or have not.
The known against the unknown.
The only team to topple Dublin under Gavin have been an Ulster side who played a defend in numbers, counter attacking game - similar to Tyrone.
They had Michael Murphy, Mc fadden and Mc Brearty
You have your best inside forwards on the bench.
They had McBrearty on the bench.
Murphy played the majority of his football in the middle of the pitch and McFadden was getting stick as he had been badly out of form that year.
You've ignored my bit about your county....
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Quote from: Ball Hopper on August 07, 2017, 05:33:53 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 07, 2017, 05:29:46 PM
Quote from: Ball Hopper on August 07, 2017, 05:27:34 PM
Tyrone will have to prove they belong in the conversation the next day out. Seeing as the best Kerry or Mayo can do against Dublin is a draw, what chances Tyrone and Dublin draw?
In fact, what odds both semifinals go to replays?
Don't let the facts get in the way of misguided nonsense though.
The best Mayo have done is a draw.
The best Kerry have done is lose.
And thus far Tyrone have failed to qualify for the latter stages and be part of the discussion. New territory for Tyrone. Who knows how they will handle it.
We know Kerry haven't had it against the Dubs.
We know Mayo have had it but shot themselves in the foot.
We don't know whether Tyrone have it or have not.
The known against the unknown.
The only team to topple Dublin under Gavin have been an Ulster side who played a defend in numbers, counter attacking game - similar to Tyrone.
They had Michael Murphy, Mc fadden and Mc Brearty
You have your best inside forwards on the bench.
They had McBrearty on the bench.
Murphy played the majority of his football in the middle of the pitch and McFadden was getting stick as he had been badly out of form that year.
You've ignored my bit about your county....
No, I actually corrected your misinformation.
McBrearty started on the bench.
Murphy played the bulk of it out the field.
McFadden had been getting a lot of stick for his performances that year.
Was there today.Sincere thanks to the Rossies for taking the honour away from Armagh of being the quarter finalist that incurred the heaviest defeat by the biggest margin
In the league Roscommon lost to Tyrone, Mayo, Donegal, Kerry, Dublin and Monaghan.
Their sole win was the game against Cavan (the other relegated side)
Their 2 wins in the championship were against a feeble Leitrim and a flaky Galway side.
The big outlier in terms of their form was drawing with Mayo the last day.
Mayo came out all guns blazing and were 0-6 up before Roscommon got the score back to 06-02.
Then once the goals came 3 goals in 4 minutes, it was game over.
Ref might as well have blown then because that's all Roscommon were waiting for.
Roscommon were beyond awful today - gave Mayo oceans of time and space when Mayo had the ball, on those occasions when a Roscommon player had the ball, it seemed as if the rest of the Roscommon team were playing statues - not just the forwards but everywhere on the pitch, they was zero movement whatsoever in terms of offering the player in possession options (this was especially the case for the keeper with kickouts) As such I don't know if I'd be giving Mayo huge amounts of credit in terms of "putting pressure" on the Roscommon kickouts, it was more a case of Roscommon putting pressure on the Roscommon kickouts , they were so poor.
Well, obviously I'm delighted with the result. Mayo players and management deserve massive credit for the high octane performance. It's hard to single out any one player but I thought Aidan o'se,Keith Higgins and Brendan Harrison were outstanding.
Also have to congratulate Roscommon on a very good season winning a Connaught championship. I am looking forward to the continued rivalry. No doubt they are a young and improving side and I wish them luck next year and hope they continue to build and improve.
Congrats to Mayo. From the throw-in to the final whistle never let up, as ruthless a performance as I've ever seen over us and I've seen a few. Still would like to thank our team and management. The Connacht final was a great day even if Mayo left no one in any doubt that they are by a long stretch the best team in Connacht. They've been on the road a long time now and they are a credit to their county and province. On their day they can beat anyone and hitting form at the right time and very best of luck lads and lassies. Mayo made a few simple changes today that some of their more astute supporters were crying out for. I was hoping Rockford would ignore the obvious but alas he made the changes. Enough to blow us away. I'm still not sure what our management was at with that starting line up but that's for another day. Winter is for licking wounds and that's what we'll be doing. Mayo get bragging rights in my hometown of Ballagh for now, but we'll rise again.
Quote from: twohands!!! on August 07, 2017, 11:51:27 PM
Mayo came out all guns blazing and were 0-6 up before Roscommon got the score back to 06-02.
Then once the goals came 3 goals in 4 minutes, it was game over.
Ref might as well have blown then because that's all Roscommon were waiting for.
Roscommon were beyond awful today - gave Mayo oceans of time and space when Mayo had the ball, on those occasions when a Roscommon player had the ball, it seemed as if the rest of the Roscommon team were playing statues - not just the forwards but everywhere on the pitch, they was zero movement whatsoever in terms of offering the player in possession options (this was especially the case for the keeper with kickouts) As such I don't know if I'd be giving Mayo huge amounts of credit in terms of "putting pressure" on the Roscommon kickouts, it was more a case of Roscommon putting pressure on the Roscommon kickouts , they were so poor.
Last time i seen Mayo getting oceans of time and space when on the ball in Croke Park was against a hung over All Ireland Donegal winning team in 2013. Roscommon much like Armagh on Saturday didn't seem to have the conditioning to produce two competitive Croke park performances in a row. Easy pickings for both Tyrone and Mayo but how good both are won't be known until after the semi finals.
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Quote from: twohands!!! on August 07, 2017, 11:51:27 PM
Mayo came out all guns blazing and were 0-6 up before Roscommon got the score back to 06-02.
Then once the goals came 3 goals in 4 minutes, it was game over.
Ref might as well have blown then because that's all Roscommon were waiting for.
Roscommon were beyond awful today - gave Mayo oceans of time and space when Mayo had the ball, on those occasions when a Roscommon player had the ball, it seemed as if the rest of the Roscommon team were playing statues - not just the forwards but everywhere on the pitch, they was zero movement whatsoever in terms of offering the player in possession options (this was especially the case for the keeper with kickouts) As such I don't know if I'd be giving Mayo huge amounts of credit in terms of "putting pressure" on the Roscommon kickouts, it was more a case of Roscommon putting pressure on the Roscommon kickouts , they were so poor.
Last time i seen Mayo getting oceans of time and space when on the ball in Croke Park was against a hung over All Ireland Donegal winning team in 2013. Roscommon much like Armagh on Saturday didn't seem to have the conditioning to produce two competitive Croke park performances in a row. Easy pickings for both Tyrone and Mayo but how good both are won't be known until after the semi finals.
Agree, we wont have a clue how good Dublin or Kerry are before they get a game in the semis. Neither have got a game yet but Kerry at least will get one in the semis.
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Quote from: twohands!!! on August 07, 2017, 11:51:27 PM
Mayo came out all guns blazing and were 0-6 up before Roscommon got the score back to 06-02.
Then once the goals came 3 goals in 4 minutes, it was game over.
Ref might as well have blown then because that's all Roscommon were waiting for.
Roscommon were beyond awful today - gave Mayo oceans of time and space when Mayo had the ball, on those occasions when a Roscommon player had the ball, it seemed as if the rest of the Roscommon team were playing statues - not just the forwards but everywhere on the pitch, they was zero movement whatsoever in terms of offering the player in possession options (this was especially the case for the keeper with kickouts) As such I don't know if I'd be giving Mayo huge amounts of credit in terms of "putting pressure" on the Roscommon kickouts, it was more a case of Roscommon putting pressure on the Roscommon kickouts , they were so poor.
Last time i seen Mayo getting oceans of time and space when on the ball in Croke Park was against a hung over All Ireland Donegal winning team in 2013. Roscommon much like Armagh on Saturday didn't seem to have the conditioning to produce two competitive Croke park performances in a row. Easy pickings for both Tyrone and Mayo but how good both are won't be known until after the semi finals.
Agree, we wont have a clue how good Dublin or Kerry are before they get a game in the semis. Neither have got a game yet but Kerry at least will get one in the semis.
Kerry is to Mayo what Mayo is to Roscommon. It's your turn to confront your demons. Good luck.
I saw that from afar.
God bless Ireland ,
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Quote from: twohands!!! on August 07, 2017, 11:51:27 PM
Mayo came out all guns blazing and were 0-6 up before Roscommon got the score back to 06-02.
Then once the goals came 3 goals in 4 minutes, it was game over.
Ref might as well have blown then because that's all Roscommon were waiting for.
Roscommon were beyond awful today - gave Mayo oceans of time and space when Mayo had the ball, on those occasions when a Roscommon player had the ball, it seemed as if the rest of the Roscommon team were playing statues - not just the forwards but everywhere on the pitch, they was zero movement whatsoever in terms of offering the player in possession options (this was especially the case for the keeper with kickouts) As such I don't know if I'd be giving Mayo huge amounts of credit in terms of "putting pressure" on the Roscommon kickouts, it was more a case of Roscommon putting pressure on the Roscommon kickouts , they were so poor.
Last time i seen Mayo getting oceans of time and space when on the ball in Croke Park was against a hung over All Ireland Donegal winning team in 2013. Roscommon much like Armagh on Saturday didn't seem to have the conditioning to produce two competitive Croke park performances in a row. Easy pickings for both Tyrone and Mayo but how good both are won't be known until after the semi finals.
Agree, we wont have a clue how good Dublin or Kerry are before they get a game in the semis. Neither have got a game yet but Kerry at least will get one in the semis.
Kerry is Mayo what Mayo is to Roscommon. It's your turn to confront your demons. Good luck.
Did you wallop on the head from someone on the train?
Youre talking nonsense
Quote from: T Fearon on August 07, 2017, 11:30:30 PM
Was there today.Sincere thanks to the Rossies for taking the honour away from Armagh of being the quarter finalist that incurred the heaviest defeat by the biggest margin
Did you mix up your dates again Tony?
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Tyrone will have to prove they belong in the conversation the next day out. Seeing as the best Kerry or Mayo can do against Dublin is a draw, what chances Tyrone and Dublin draw?
In fact, what odds both semifinals go to replays?
Don't let the facts get in the way of misguided nonsense though.
The best Mayo have done is a draw.
The best Kerry have done is lose.
And thus far Tyrone have failed to qualify for the latter stages and be part of the discussion. New territory for Tyrone. Who knows how they will handle it.
We know Kerry haven't had it against the Dubs.
We know Mayo have had it but shot themselves in the foot.
We don't know whether Tyrone have it or have not.
The known against the unknown.
The only team to topple Dublin under Gavin have been an Ulster side who played a defend in numbers, counter attacking game - similar to Tyrone.
They had Michael Murphy, Mc fadden and Mc Brearty
You have your best inside forwards on the bench.
They had McBrearty on the bench.
Murphy played the majority of his football in the middle of the pitch and McFadden was getting stick as he had been badly out of form that year.
You've ignored my bit about your county....
No, I actually corrected your misinformation.
McBrearty started on the bench.
Murphy played the bulk of it out the field.
McFadden had been getting a lot of stick for his performances that year.
I'm still waiting .....
Quote from: Rossfan on July 23, 2017, 02:25:28 PM
Can't wait.
We started yet off on the road in the 2011 CF so would be nice if we ended ye're team next Sunday.
One part of me fears we had ONE BIG GAME in us and 9 months to hone in on it.
Hope we avoid a tanking anyway and that our young ladeens run the legs if the oul worn out Rhubarbs.
So ye did have one big game in ye
A small bit later than planned. That's one way to silence the boo boys.
I'm glad to be proven wrong. I put my head in my hands when the text came through that Keegan wasn't starting. By Christ they sure filled the gap in his absence. You couldn't really give anyone one standout performance because they were all good. The defenders were put in their right positions. Barrett back at corner back and Donie given licence to roam. Brilliant from all of them. Parsons showed what a loss he was the first day. SOS had a great game too, not doing any of the silly stuff he can often do. Forwards, I was harsh on them last week, but they were all brilliant yesterday.
You could make a case that Ros were cat. And they were. Couldn't believe how bad they were. I know they had a bad league and last year too but I thought McStay would have them better prepared. Fair dos to Rochford. It was tough I'm sure on the Rossies yesterday. I'm sure it will hurt them. Especially the fact they gave a good account of themselves in the first game.
Regards talk of top 4 or whatever, there's one day the last 4 will want to be top dogs on. We all know when.
Quote from: seafoid on August 08, 2017, 07:29:37 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 23, 2017, 02:25:28 PM
Can't wait.
We started yet off on the road in the 2011 CF so would be nice if we ended ye're team next Sunday.
One part of me fears we had ONE BIG GAME in us and 9 months to hone in on it.
Hope we avoid a tanking anyway and that our young ladeens run the legs if the oul worn out Rhubarbs.
So ye did have one big game in ye
And 12 glorious minutes in Croke Park too.
After that it was Mayowestros 5-30 MostofRos 0-16.
Sobering reality as a big boy cut loose on us in the big boys' playground.
Still can't understand what management was at dropping Fintan and Ciaráin and giving a man his first senior game in an AI QF.
A man who was spirited into the panel only a few weeks beforehand.
We had a great day in Salthill and are Connacht Champions but certainly aren't the best team in Connacht.
Hope the Rhubarbs can keep this new found level up till 5 o'clock on 17th September or it will be like our CF win.
A certain poster on here questioned the quality of Brendan Harrison...........think ya got yer answer yday Syferus.
Quote from: sans pessimism on August 08, 2017, 10:23:55 AM
A certain poster on here questioned the quality of Brendan Harrison...........think ya got yer answer yday Syferus.
Why did he need two minders so? Diarmuid was our best player on the day btw so I'm afraid you picked the wrong ocassion to crow. In fact you picked the only matchup yesterday that you couldn't crow about.
Syf, it shows how little you know or maybe how blinkered you are
Harrison was outstanding yesterday, could easily have been MOTM
I don't think yesterday was a day to be picking out top Roscommon performers. Murtagh got two points from play, hardly a roasting. Harrison led directly to a lot of our scores with his attacking, should have had a goal and was just outstanding
Quote from: Rossfan on August 08, 2017, 09:20:51 AM
Quote from: seafoid on August 08, 2017, 07:29:37 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 23, 2017, 02:25:28 PM
Can't wait.
We started yet off on the road in the 2011 CF so would be nice if we ended ye're team next Sunday.
One part of me fears we had ONE BIG GAME in us and 9 months to hone in on it.
Hope we avoid a tanking anyway and that our young ladeens run the legs if the oul worn out Rhubarbs.
So ye did have one big game in ye
And 12 glorious minutes in Croke Park too.
After that it was Mayowestros 5-30 MostofRos 0-16.
Sobering reality as a big boy cut loose on us in the big boys' playground.
Still can't understand what management was at dropping Fintan and Ciaráin and giving a man his first senior game in an AI QF.
A man who was spirited into the panel only a few weeks beforehand.
We had a great day in Salthill and are Connacht Champions but certainly aren't the best team in Connacht.
Hope the Rhubarbs can keep this new found level up till 5 o'clock on 17th September or it will be like our CF win.
Yup
Now or never.
If they do it it will break the Internet.
A tough day in the office for Roscommon yesterday. I'll rephrased that - A very tough day. Made all the tougher by expectation that had grew from two previous performances. Well done to all the Rossie fans that stayed to the end, and there were a lot more that stayed than left early. You are a credit to your county and if you have another great day, you are the one who will enjoy it more.
Well, Mayo are suddenly Top 4 again. World beaters. Elite team. Seasoned Warriors. Gas how one game can change the perspective of the masses. I'd take our performance with a pinch of Salt. We've had games like this this year in Galway/Donegal and Roscommon/Galway. Both Galway and Roscommon surfed on media praise from such performances. But they were just days both teams turned up, had a good start and ran with it.
Any well done to Mayo. This kind of win will do them no harm. The Negativity since last years AI final has been smothering. There has been a constant questioning of their Character, their will and their skill.
My reservations on the Super 8 still remain. Too many games in a short space of time for smaller squad, less conditioned teams will see teams get multiple hidings in this format.
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 08, 2017, 10:39:34 AM
Syf, it shows how little you know or maybe how blinkered you are
Harrison was outstanding yesterday, could easily have been MOTM
I don't think yesterday was a day to be picking out top Roscommon performers. Murtagh got two points from play, hardly a roasting. Harrison led directly to a lot of our scores with his attacking, should have had a goal and was just outstanding
You'd really give MotM to a lad who had two sweepers helping him mark his man with any ball sent in? You're basically playing on easy mode when you have that much help. And yet Murtagh still caused him trouble.
Harrison is fine, but my point remains he is not an All-Star quaility back. Nothing yesterday disproves it. JOD and Geaney are going to have much more support than Diarmuid..
What two sweepers did he have? Higgins some of the time was a sweeper and its not like he got up the fried and left his post. Such denial is admirable
Will Paddy Durcan be banned for next day lads?Swung back the elbow on Connolly.
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on August 07, 2017, 09:05:54 PM
Quote from: dclane on August 07, 2017, 09:04:25 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 07, 2017, 07:51:59 PM
Jasus lads that was awful from us today.
We were back to our worst NFL stuff and seemed totally physically unable to perform 8 days after a big match unlike the Rhubarbs who upped things in a big way.
Leaving Fintan and Ciaráin off was very strange and while Fitzmaurice wasn't too bad it was baffling springing him from nowhere in such a major game.
Not a time for pointing fingers at individual players but fee emerged with much credit today.
A very disappointing end to a good Summer.
Back to the drawing board.
Oh dear.. back to ths drawing board he says..and only yesterday he were standing on the cusp of greatness.. .
Quote from: Rossfan on August 06, 2017, 11:49:49 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on August 06, 2017, 06:17:41 PM
Do I sense a nervousness from the land of stolen sheep . Aye I thought so.
When your standing on the cusp of greatness it can generate a few butterflies.
Tomorrow is a day for not taking one backward step. Look them in the eye and lave them floundering on their fat Rhubarb arses.
Even if we don't win just let us live up to our motto be "NOT ONE STEP BACKWARDS"
Alarm set, flashkeen washed, sandwich material bought, tractor filled with dodgy diesel ...... what can possibly go wrong?
you wonder why some people over the shannon don't want ye to win an AI
just be glad yer lads played very well today and enjoy the win.
You can surely spot that this fella isn't from Mayo?? :o
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 08, 2017, 11:12:22 AM
What two sweepers did he have? Higgins some of the time was a sweeper and its not like he got up the fried and left his post. Such denial is admirable
He had Higgins or whoever else was covering for Higgins and the other CB/FB drifting over to help out on nearly every ball as the ball into Diarmuid was invariably long and aimless giving plenty of time for men to surround him. No marker can be credited too much when it was partly team effort and partly poor balls.
Look, ye beat us at every single position on the field bar Harrison on Diarmuid. It just wasn't the right time to crow about his greatness.
So we had two sweepers because it was Higgins and whoever was covering FOR Higgins
Anyway, you're in a minority of one who thinks Murtagh got the better of Harrison. He got one outstanding point at the start of the second half and that was it.
One thing I was delighted about yesterday in fact was that the Mayo lads didn't highlight any player like we did last week. Enda Smith was shown up for the average footballer he is. He had a great Connacht final but he has a long way to go before he warrants us leaving our best player on him
Quote from: Syferus on August 08, 2017, 10:26:51 AM
Quote from: sans pessimism on August 08, 2017, 10:23:55 AM
A certain poster on here questioned the quality of Brendan Harrison...........think ya got yer answer yday Syferus.
Why did he need two minders so? Diarmuid was our best player on the day btw so I'm afraid you picked the wrong ocassion to crow. In fact you picked the only matchup yesterday that you couldn't crow about.
Its not crowin oul stock-simply stating FACT
Bad day at HQ for Ross, have been in similar situations previously and get no enjoyment seeing Mayo dishing out such a trimming. That being said great to see Mayo throw off the shackles and play with that energy and freedom that has been lacking for so long.
What was story with Ciaran Murtagh and Cregg not starting? Why did it take so long to bring on a leader such as Ian Kilbride?
Will any of last year's panel be likely to return for 2018?
Quote from: PW Nally on August 08, 2017, 01:49:06 PM
Bad day at HQ for Ross, have been in similar situations previously and get no enjoyment seeing Mayo dishing out such a trimming. That being said great to see Mayo throw off the shackles and play with that energy and freedom that has been lacking for so long.
What was story with Ciaran Murtagh and Cregg not starting? Why did it take so long to bring on a leader such as Ian Kilbride?
Will any of last year's panel be likely to return for 2018?
With regards to your questions I haven't a clue nor does anyone. Maybe injuries, maybe not. Maybe they were being punished for scoring goals in the first game. Ian really should have started before Fitzmaurice (first ever appearance for Roscommon at senior), I'd be afraid he might call time as he's 34. I'd take him for another year in a heartbeat. I really don't want to even think about that mess maybe being Seanie's sign off after 167 appearences, it would be far from fitting.
McStay would have been in trouble had this year's championship went like last. Despite the flaking at least we're going to be able to build on this year rather than fight amongst ourselves for the off-season. We've basically got a rookie spine on this team now so there's plenty of room for them to grow.
I'd hope Collins, Cregg and at least some of the Dalys come back next year, but some of it depends on more than things the management can control. I'd pray that the empty feeling in their guts the last few weeks as the lads exceeded all expectations will help that process. I'm sure McStay will ask anyways.
Quote from: Syferus on August 08, 2017, 02:06:54 PM
Quote from: PW Nally on August 08, 2017, 01:49:06 PM
Bad day at HQ for Ross, have been in similar situations previously and get no enjoyment seeing Mayo dishing out such a trimming. That being said great to see Mayo throw off the shackles and play with that energy and freedom that has been lacking for so long.
What was story with Ciaran Murtagh and Cregg not starting? Why did it take so long to bring on a leader such as Ian Kilbride?
Will any of last year's panel be likely to return for 2018?
With regards to your questions I haven't a clue nor does anyone. Maybe injuries, maybe not. Maybe they were being punished for scoring goals in the first game. Ian really should have started before Fitzmaurice (first ever appearance for Roscommon at senior), I'd be afraid he might call time as he's 34. I'd take him for another year in a heartbeat. I really don't want to even think about that mess maybe being Seanie's sign off after 167 appearences, it would be far from fitting.
McStay would have been in trouble had this year's championship went like last. Despite the flaking at least we're going to be able to build on this year rather than fight amongst ourselves for the spring. We've basically got a rookie spine on this team now so there's plenty of room for them to grow.
I'd hope Collins, Cregg and at least some of the Dalys come back next year, but some of it depends on more than things the management can control. I'd pray that the empty feeling in their guts the last few weeks as the lads exceeded all expectations will help that process. I'm sure McStay will ask anyways.
A week or two even a month will see a different perspective. Back to the drawing board and once again a push to win Division two should be the main focus. FBD is a rubbish competition and should only be for young emerging lads and good club lads who'd like to play for their county and fill the void so that first team players can rest, recuperate and be mentally ready for the League and Championship. The Connacht Championship draw will have a bearing on how Roscommon prepare next year. This years draw was made in heaven for them. If they meet Mayo, they'd be hoping to meet them as early as possible, when they are the most vulnerable!
For the Rossies it's been a good season, not a great Season!
Yeah a good season for Ross and solid proof that their young players are indeed very promising.
Conflicting emotions as other Mayo supporters have said here, on the one hand relieved to see us showing some form on the other hand not nice to see our neighbours season end so badly, especially with two Mayomen in charge.
People saying a one point loss last week would have been better for Ross but I disagree. Talented Mayo teams have taken similar beatings on the national stage and in part I'm sure it's made us what we are today.
Ross need to stick with McStay and be patient in general. One thing I'm sure they will work on is dealing better with disaster scenarios like the start they got on Monday. I still think you are a good team worthy of respect (and will get it if we meet next year in Connacht) but the heads did go down yesterday. Compare to how we dealt with the two own goals in last years AIF, only time can bring that big game mentality.
For us Kerry and Dublin should hold no fear though we will of course be written off. Tough task to beat the two of them but we're capable of it.
Next year Cathal Cregg will be 31, Keenan 30, Donie Shine, Collins and Kevin Higgins will be 29.
Having had a year of normal life would any of them be prepared to go back to putting their lives on hold again to spend most of the season sitting on the bench?
The 3 Dalys will be 27, 24? and 22 and have to be spoken to. Cathal Shine will be 27 and if he can at all resolve his fitness issues should be asked back too.
Kilbride and Seànie may well be for retirement while it's hard to see Tom Featherstone or Brian Murtagh hanging around much longer.
Quote from: thefont on August 08, 2017, 03:33:39 PM
Yeah a good season for Ross and solid proof that their young players are indeed very promising.
Conflicting emotions as other Mayo supporters have said here, on the one hand relieved to see us showing some form on the other hand not nice to see our neighbours season end so badly, especially with two Mayomen in charge.
People saying a one point loss last week would have been better for Ross but I disagree. Talented Mayo teams have taken similar beatings on the national stage and in part I'm sure it's made us what we are today.
Ross need to stick with McStay and be patient in general. One thing I'm sure they will work on is dealing better with disaster scenarios like the start they got on Monday. I still think you are a good team worthy of respect (and will get it if we meet next year in Connacht) but the heads did go down yesterday. Compare to how we dealt with the two own goals in last years AIF, only time can bring that big game mentality.
For us Kerry and Dublin should hold no fear though we will of course be written off. Tough task to beat the two of them but we're capable of it.
And you're writing off Tyrone I see ;)
Quote from: Rossfan on August 08, 2017, 09:20:51 AM
Quote from: seafoid on August 08, 2017, 07:29:37 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 23, 2017, 02:25:28 PM
Can't wait.
We started yet off on the road in the 2011 CF so would be nice if we ended ye're team next Sunday.
One part of me fears we had ONE BIG GAME in us and 9 months to hone in on it.
Hope we avoid a tanking anyway and that our young ladeens run the legs if the oul worn out Rhubarbs.
So ye did have one big game in ye
And 12 glorious minutes in Croke Park too.
After that it was Mayowestros 5-30 MostofRos 0-16.
Sobering reality as a big boy cut loose on us in the big boys' playground.
Still can't understand what management was at dropping Fintan and Ciaráin and giving a man his first senior game in an AI QF.
A man who was spirited into the panel only a few weeks beforehand.
We had a great day in Salthill and are Connacht Champions but certainly aren't the best team in Connacht.
Hope the Rhubarbs can keep this new found level up till 5 o'clock on 17th September or it will be like our CF win.
Until you lose the inferiority complex and stop using language like mayowestros, herring chokers, wind tunnel, rhubarbs etc you're never fully going to move on and focus on your own county. I know some of it is said in jest and as a bit of a wind up but it speaks volumes for your state of mind.
Mayo and Galway fans don't use that language. Yes Ballagh Mayo's are annoyed that our town was moved out of our county but we get on with it and refer to ye as Ros or Rossies. No big deal there, we're secure enough in ourselves and worry about bigger things like winning that elusive prize I suppose.
For yours and your county men's sake it would be better if you just focus on yourselves and try not to big up your two bigger neighbours further by giving them new titles. Nicknames is one thing, we do it ourselves but never, ever referring to a county by its correct name just reinforces the belief that we're on your minds an unhealthy amount. Look I know you'll keep doing it but it's sad to watch my neighbours feel they have to do this.
On a football note, hard luck yesterday, it was actually cruel to watch by the finish. We were very good, Ros never got to the pitch of it. Any further analysis is pointless. Kerry will bring an intensity we haven't faced yet this year. It will be a different sport in less than two weeks time.
Quote from: Ballaghman on August 08, 2017, 03:49:46 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 08, 2017, 09:20:51 AM
Quote from: seafoid on August 08, 2017, 07:29:37 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 23, 2017, 02:25:28 PM
Can't wait.
We started yet off on the road in the 2011 CF so would be nice if we ended ye're team next Sunday.
One part of me fears we had ONE BIG GAME in us and 9 months to hone in on it.
Hope we avoid a tanking anyway and that our young ladeens run the legs if the oul worn out Rhubarbs.
So ye did have one big game in ye
And 12 glorious minutes in Croke Park too.
After that it was Mayowestros 5-30 MostofRos 0-16.
Sobering reality as a big boy cut loose on us in the big boys' playground.
Still can't understand what management was at dropping Fintan and Ciaráin and giving a man his first senior game in an AI QF.
A man who was spirited into the panel only a few weeks beforehand.
We had a great day in Salthill and are Connacht Champions but certainly aren't the best team in Connacht.
Hope the Rhubarbs can keep this new found level up till 5 o'clock on 17th September or it will be like our CF win.
Until you lose the inferiority complex and stop using language like mayowestros, herring chokers, wind tunnel, rhubarbs etc you're never fully going to move on and focus on your own county. I know some of it is said in jest and as a bit of a wind up but it speaks volumes for your state of mind.
Mayo and Galway fans don't use that language. Yes Ballagh Mayo's are annoyed that our town was moved out of our county but we get on with it and refer to ye as Ros or Rossies. No big deal there, we're secure enough in ourselves and worry about bigger things like winning that elusive prize I suppose.
For yours and your county men's sake it would be better if you just focus on yourselves and try not to big up your two bigger neighbours further by giving them new titles. Nicknames is one thing, we do it ourselves but never, ever referring to a county by its correct name just reinforces the belief that we're on your minds an unhealthy amount. Look I know you'll keep doing it but it's sad to watch my neighbours feel they have to do this.
On a football note, hard luck yesterday, it was actually cruel to watch by the finish. We were very good, Ros never got to the pitch of it. Any further analysis is pointless. Kerry will bring an intensity we haven't faced yet this year. It will be a different sport in less than two weeks time.
Says the Roscommon man.
Sin é.
That Roscommon man has it bad.
Imagine a football team not being able to win the All Ireland because I use nicknames on an Internet forum!!
I will continue to use the geographically correct term for the area covered by the Mayo GAA board and the team they pick and fail to see how that could impact on the Roscommon (minus-Ballagh) team.
Ballagh was moved to Ros long before you were born.
Thank God for lads like "weareros" and Ballagh Rossie and all those from that town who support the County they come from.
Sin é.
While I was confident of a mayo victory I can't say that I expected it to be that emphatic. McStay called it right when he said that his young team was "jumped on" by a more physical and experienced side. I always felt that Mayo's problem this season was a lack of focus and though we saw glimpses of it at times it didn't come right until yesterday. The propensity to lose that focus is always there and this was evident from the nonsense we engaged in at the time Cillian took the backward 45 instead of kicking towards goal. A couple of loose efforts followed. I was glad when half time came as it gave management a chance to sharpen the focus again.
As for Ros they have reached a place which we have seen a couple of times. McStay suggested that a winter of S&C would bring them on greatly and that the experience would stand to them. Interestingly, listening to John Evans on the radio on the way home was the question of whither some of the players have the frame required for the bulking up. Syferus suggests that the Daly's need talking to and I would agree. Ros can't afford to be without these and other stronger, experienced players if they are to win promotion and progress. Losing heavily takes it's toll too and despite the Conn Final win I would still say that Galway are ahead in the building process.
Lastly, Ros supporters, like our own, stuck by their team to the finish and no-one should underestimate what that can mean to players in the dark days.
Quote from: Rossfan on August 08, 2017, 04:26:23 PM
That Roscommon man has it bad.
Imagine a football team not being able to win the All Ireland because I use nicknames on an Internet forum!!
I will continue to use the geographically correct term for the area covered by the Mayo GAA board and the team they pick and fail to see how that could impact on the Roscommon (minus-Ballagh) team.
Ballagh was moved to Ros long before you were born.
Thank God for lads like "weareros" and Ballagh Rossie and all those from that town who support the County they come from.
Sin é.
Inferiority complex in a nutshell! Thank God I'm a Mayo man!
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And you're writing off Tyrone I see ;)
Whoops sorry Tyrone :) I actually think they have a good shout against the Dubs, should be a tight game.
Quote from: Ballaghman on August 08, 2017, 05:40:25 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 08, 2017, 04:26:23 PM
That Roscommon man has it bad.
Imagine a football team not being able to win the All Ireland because I use nicknames on an Internet forum!!
I will continue to use the geographically correct term for the area covered by the Mayo GAA board and the team they pick and fail to see how that could impact on the Roscommon (minus-Ballagh) team.
Ballagh was moved to Ros long before you were born.
Thank God for lads like "weareros" and Ballagh Rossie and all those from that town who support the County they come from.
Sin é.
Il! Thank God I'm a Mayo man!
What part if Mayo are you from?
Quote from: Rossfan on August 08, 2017, 06:36:02 PM
Quote from: Ballaghman on August 08, 2017, 05:40:25 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 08, 2017, 04:26:23 PM
That Roscommon man has it bad.
Imagine a football team not being able to win the All Ireland because I use nicknames on an Internet forum!!
I will continue to use the geographically correct term for the area covered by the Mayo GAA board and the team they pick and fail to see how that could impact on the Roscommon (minus-Ballagh) team.
Ballagh was moved to Ros long before you were born.
Thank God for lads like "weareros" and Ballagh Rossie and all those from that town who support the County they come from.
Sin é.
Il! Thank God I'm a Mayo man!
What part if Mayo are you from?
Ballagh, the clue is in the name. Just like my Tyrone and Armagh brethren are Irish, we know who and what we really are. British land re-zoning doesn't change that.
Anyway, best of luck to you, see you in the FBD next year.
Indeed neither of us will see our County's team till January.
Quote from: thefont on August 08, 2017, 03:33:39 PM
Yeah a good season for Ross and solid proof that their young players are indeed very promising.
Conflicting emotions as other Mayo supporters have said here, on the one hand relieved to see us showing some form on the other hand not nice to see our neighbours season end so badly, especially with two Mayomen in charge.
People saying a one point loss last week would have been better for Ross but I disagree. Talented Mayo teams have taken similar beatings on the national stage and in part I'm sure it's made us what we are today.
Ross need to stick with McStay and be patient in general. One thing I'm sure they will work on is dealing better with disaster scenarios like the start they got on Monday. I still think you are a good team worthy of respect (and will get it if we meet next year in Connacht) but the heads did go down yesterday. Compare to how we dealt with the two own goals in last years AIF, only time can bring that big game mentality.
For us Kerry and Dublin should hold no fear though we will of course be written off. Tough task to beat the two of them but we're capable of it.
Decent post fair play. Supporters like you deserve an All Ireland.
Any Mayo people in their right mind that had sympathy for those shower of booing c***ts needs yer heads examined.
Quote from: highorlow on August 08, 2017, 10:33:48 PM
Any Mayo people in their right mind that had sympathy for those shower of booing c***ts needs yer heads examined.
Ah grow up - not every Rossie was booing. There's many a sound rossie, many a pain in the hole as well, no doubt about it! ;-)
Sfy, so I watched the match back this evening and kept a particular eye on Murtagh and Harrison. Barrett picked up Murtagh for the first half and then switched with Harrison in the second.
So in that second half Murtagh touched the ball 6 times, thats including one time to kick a free. So five times in open play, one magnificent point. One blocked shot (Harrison), one shot dropped short under severe pressure from Harrison, once to run 5 yards forward, 5 yards back before passing it backwards under pressure from Harrison and once where he caught a shot and was f**ked out over the sideline by, you guessed it, Harrison.
Cleaned out alright!
For the record his first half was very similar
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 09, 2017, 02:47:45 AM
Sfy, so I watched the match back this evening and kept a particular eye on Murtagh and Harrison. Barrett picked up Murtagh for the first half and then switched with Harrison in the second.
So in that second half Murtagh touched the ball 6 times, thats including one time to kick a free. So five times in open play, one magnificent point. One blocked shot (Harrison), one shot dropped short under severe pressure from Harrison, once to run 5 yards forward, 5 yards back before passing it backwards under pressure from Harrison and once where he caught a shot and was f**ked out over the sideline by, you guessed it, Harrison.
Cleaned out alright!
For the record his first half was very similar
a forward is only as good as the ball coming in
Ros forward movement has been quite poor
the Mayo backs played very well
Agree 100%, some of the ball was diabolical and a lot of the time he was just marked out of it. My point was that Syf had suggested he cleaned Harrison and was yer best performer.
He's gone quiet now when called out on his nonsense
58 points the total difference between winners and losers in the quarter finals
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMZSxehxHEc
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 09, 2017, 03:25:22 PM
Agree 100%, some of the ball was diabolical and a lot of the time he was just marked out of it. My point was that Syf had suggested he cleaned Harrison and was yer best performer.
He's gone quiet now when called out on his nonsense
Please tell me where I said he cleaned him and I'll respond. Otherwise amend your post..
Quote from: Syferus on August 08, 2017, 10:26:51 AM
Quote from: sans pessimism on August 08, 2017, 10:23:55 AM
A certain poster on here questioned the quality of Brendan Harrison...........think ya got yer answer yday Syferus.
Why did he need two minders so? Diarmuid was our best player on the day btw so I'm afraid you picked the wrong ocassion to crow. In fact you picked the only matchup yesterday that you couldn't crow about.
Still waiting.
Quote from: Rossfan on August 08, 2017, 09:20:51 AM
Quote from: seafoid on August 08, 2017, 07:29:37 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 23, 2017, 02:25:28 PM
Can't wait.
We started yet off on the road in the 2011 CF so would be nice if we ended ye're team next Sunday.
One part of me fears we had ONE BIG GAME in us and 9 months to hone in on it.
Hope we avoid a tanking anyway and that our young ladeens run the legs if the oul worn out Rhubarbs.
So ye did have one big game in ye
And 12 glorious minutes in Croke Park too.
After that it was Mayowestros 5-30 MostofRos 0-16.
Sobering reality as a big boy cut loose on us in the big boys' playground.
Still can't understand what management was at dropping Fintan and Ciaráin and giving a man his first senior game in an AI QF.
A man who was spirited into the panel only a few weeks beforehand.
We had a great day in Salthill and are Connacht Champions but certainly aren't the best team in Connacht.
Hope the Rhubarbs can keep this new found level up till 5 o'clock on 17th September or it will be like our CF win.
Fair play Ross, a gentleman as always. Believe it or not, I was thinking of you and all the rest of the genuine Rossie supporters as the game wore on and yer hopes began to disappear minute by minute as the game wore on. Mayo folks have been in the same position many times before and we know better than most what it is like to leave Croke Park with your expectations and hopes in tatters.
However, hope springs eternal as the old saying goes. (No, I dunno what that means either.)
But ye are Connacht champions and won the title fair and square and maybe with a biteen more experience yoiur lads won't be fazed by the occasion next time you make the quarters.
Fair play Lar.
I think we need to persevere - get the S&C improved especially with the new last 8 series coming in.
We couldn't cope with 2 intensive games in 9 days - next year hopefully we'll be having 3 in 15 days following retention if our Connacht title or successful Qualifier run.
We'll need same of the type of mental and physical strength ye're bucks have after 7 years on the road.
Will take time to get to that level but have to start planning it next week not next feckin April.
Management need to ask themselves what kind of boloxology they were at with team selection and passive approach when tearing into games won us Connacht and drew with your lot.
Anyway let's keep at it......and see where it takes us.
Quote from: Rossfan on August 09, 2017, 11:24:54 PM
Fair play Lar.
I think we need to persevere - get the S&C improved especially with the new last 8 series coming in.
We couldn't cope with 2 intensive games in 9 days - next year hopefully we'll be having 3 in 15 days following retention if our Connacht title or successful Qualifier run.
We'll need same of the type of mental and physical strength ye're bucks have after 7 years on the road.
Will take time to get to that level but have to start planning it next week not next feckin April.
Management need to ask themselves what kind of boloxology they were at with team selection and passive approach when tearing into games won us Connacht and drew with your lot.
Anyway let's keep at it......and see where it takes us.
I think Ros have some very good players and the Ros "who do you think you are " attitude which are 2 positive attributes that ye can build on. The conditioning gap is a massive barrier . Mayo weren't really firing the first day. When they switch it on they can really go to town. And they did. Days like the last day are all about what you learn from them. I don't think it is not that ye are good enough. It's that ye still have work to do. There is a difference.
You shouldn't have to bulk up to play GAA but that is for another day.
This nonsense about conditioning needs do stop - lads are in good shape, and the newer lads will invariably improve in that regard as the years go by. All I saw on Monday was a young team that got rattled early and had no response. After the first goal there was quite literally nothing that could be reflective of what will happen the next time the teams meet.
Time is on our side - it definitely isn't in Mayo's favour.
there is a great quote by
Dan Shanahan at 14 .10 in this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cz6vsTLPJU
ros have to build it so they can win in August. It will take time but it should be doable.
Quote from: Syferus on August 10, 2017, 12:04:29 AM
This nonsense about conditioning needs do stop - lads are in good shape, and the newer lads will invariably improve in that regard as the years go by. All I saw on Monday was a young team that got rattled early and had no response. After the first goal there was quite literally nothing that could be reflective of what will happen the next time the teams meet.
Time is on our side - it definitely isn't in Mayo's favour.
If that first goal hadn't gone in it would all have been different. And sure it shouldn't even have been allowed.
This time next year Rodders.....
Could we not just let this thread go?
Bad day for Ros- enough said.
Calls/ performances not up to it on the day: enough said.
Hope for the future/ a platform to build on despite this disaster: enough said.
Good luck Mayo the rest of the campaign: enough said.
Quote from: Substandard on August 10, 2017, 07:04:35 PM
Could we not just let this thread go?
Bad day for Ros- enough said.
Calls/ performances not up to it on the day: enough said.
Hope for the future/ a platform to build on despite this disaster: enough said.
Good luck Mayo the rest of the campaign: enough said.
Good post. ;D ;D
Lock her up!
T'would be no harm at all.
Rhubarbs get on with Kerry we hope manager and players have learned invaluable lessons and come back all the better for it next year.
(Or the awful scenario that it knocks the stuffing and confidence out of us and we never threaten the top table again)
Quote from: Syferus on August 10, 2017, 12:04:29 AM
This nonsense about conditioning needs do stop - lads are in good shape, and the newer lads will invariably improve in that regard as the years go by. All I saw on Monday was a young team that got rattled early and had no response. After the first goal there was quite literally nothing that could be reflective of what will happen the next time the teams meet.
Time is on our side - it definitely isn't in Mayo's favour.
Seriously Sy. it's shite like that, that drives people away from this discussion board.
Quote from: moysider on August 11, 2017, 01:34:38 AM
Quote from: Syferus on August 10, 2017, 12:04:29 AM
This nonsense about conditioning needs do stop - lads are in good shape, and the newer lads will invariably improve in that regard as the years go by. All I saw on Monday was a young team that got rattled early and had no response. After the first goal there was quite literally nothing that could be reflective of what will happen the next time the teams meet.
Time is on our side - it definitely isn't in Mayo's favour.
Seriously Sy. it's shite like that, that drives people away from this discussion board.
Hes not wrong though is he?
Ah, yes he is. Mayo were all ireland minor champions in 2013, u 21 all ireland champions last year which means there is a lot of good talent coming through. What have Roscommon? f**k all except the usual self delusion that has plagued them for generations.
Quote from: moysider on August 11, 2017, 01:34:38 AM
Quote from: Syferus on August 10, 2017, 12:04:29 AM
This nonsense about conditioning needs do stop - lads are in good shape, and the newer lads will invariably improve in that regard as the years go by. All I saw on Monday was a young team that got rattled early and had no response. After the first goal there was quite literally nothing that could be reflective of what will happen the next time the teams meet.
Time is on our side - it definitely isn't in Mayo's favour.
Seriously Sy. it's shite like that, that drives people away from this discussion board.
Ah let him be. He's seen his wee county flirt with the big boys and play a bit of ball in August. Big summer for him! Two days out at HQ, two!! He'll reign it in a bit when he realises they're not a big team.
Reading the last 2 posts makes me go against all true sporting instincts and start wishing for the anathema of wins for Dublin and Kerry.
Well rossfan it shouldn't tbh. The two games v ross lessened my dislike for Roscommon. I actually hope ye remain competitive ,80% of yer support are sound out , I dint expect or want ye to bow to mayo ,just a bit of honesty of how good we have been the last few years and a lot I spoke to were of that mindset after the loss. See ye in csstlebar next summer hopefully.
Quote from: Rossfan on August 13, 2017, 11:44:33 AM
Reading the last 2 posts makes me go against all true sporting instincts and start wishing for the anathema of wins for Dublin and Kerry.
And here we have the classic case of the Stockholm Syndrome, psychology students! :P
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on August 13, 2017, 11:55:22 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 13, 2017, 11:44:33 AM
Reading the last 2 posts makes me go against all true sporting instincts and start wishing for the anathema of wins for Dublin and Kerry.
And here we have the classic case of the Stockholm Syndrome, psychology students! :P
You're not very good at witty responses.
Quote from: Syferus on August 13, 2017, 12:07:14 PM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on August 13, 2017, 11:55:22 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 13, 2017, 11:44:33 AM
Reading the last 2 posts makes me go against all true sporting instincts and start wishing for the anathema of wins for Dublin and Kerry.
And here we have the classic case of the Stockholm Syndrome, psychology students! :P
You're not very good at witty responses.
You don't say! :D
The Rossies need to introspect deeply over the winter.
And draw inspiration from glorious Rossies from the past.
As a young man Carolan first found favour at the house of his first patron, Squire George Reynolds of Lough Scur at Letterfain, Co. Leitrim (himself a harper and poet). It is said that Carolan was at this time only moderately skilled at the harp and the Squire advised him to direct his talents to composing, as he "might make a better fist of his tongue than his fingers."
So he wasn't very good as an under 21 in the world of senior.
But he worked on it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaedgrRGRQU
Quote from: Syferus on August 13, 2017, 12:07:14 PM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on August 13, 2017, 11:55:22 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 13, 2017, 11:44:33 AM
Reading the last 2 posts makes me go against all true sporting instincts and start wishing for the anathema of wins for Dublin and Kerry.
And here we have the classic case of the Stockholm Syndrome, psychology students! :P
You're not very good at witty responses.
Humour, like Gaelic football is a very recent arrival in Fear's home County
Quote from: Rossfan on August 13, 2017, 12:36:06 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 13, 2017, 12:07:14 PM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on August 13, 2017, 11:55:22 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 13, 2017, 11:44:33 AM
Reading the last 2 posts makes me go against all true sporting instincts and start wishing for the anathema of wins for Dublin and Kerry.
And here we have the classic case of the Stockholm Syndrome, psychology students! :P
You're not very good at witty responses.
Humour, like Gaelic football is a very recent arrival in Fear's home County
So glad that I have successfully united you two warring Rossie factions, and your collective ignorance is endearing -- ever hear of O'Neill the Comical, who marched through Roscommon on his way to freeing the benighted south-west of Ireland in 1579? Thought not, philistines!
Quote from: Rossfan on August 13, 2017, 12:36:06 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 13, 2017, 12:07:14 PM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on August 13, 2017, 11:55:22 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 13, 2017, 11:44:33 AM
Reading the last 2 posts makes me go against all true sporting instincts and start wishing for the anathema of wins for Dublin and Kerry.
And here we have the classic case of the Stockholm Syndrome, psychology students! :P
You're not very good at witty responses.
Humour, like Gaelic football is a very recent arrival in Fear's home County
Gaelic football is a recent arrival in Tyrone???
Can we let this thread die? Let Mayo move onto the Kerry game and The Rossies to move onto the Under 17 AI Final!
Quote from: iorras on August 13, 2017, 08:12:47 AM
Ah, yes he is. Mayo were all ireland minor champions in 2013, u 21 all ireland champions last year which means there is a lot of good talent coming through. What have Roscommon? f**k all except the usual self delusion that has plagued them for generations.
Harder to make the breakthrough to senior as a minor so i'll stick with U21s. Since Mayos 4 in a row Connacht U21 titles 2006 to 2009 they have only reached one U21 Connacht final in 8 years, in the same time Roscommon reached 7 of the last 8 U21 connacht finals winning 4 which would suggest more talent is coming through in Roscommon than Mayo however what they are lacking is experience and Mayo on the other hand arguably the most seasoned and experienced team there is right now.
Roscommons size and resources is about the same as neighbours Sligo,Offally,Longford,Westmeath but what had them a div one team the last two years and a kick of a ball away from reach the All ireland semi final this summer is the work and success they had at underage level and without it Roscommon would be a div 3 team along with their aforementioned neighbours.
Quote from: RedHand88 on August 13, 2017, 01:12:47 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 13, 2017, 12:36:06 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 13, 2017, 12:07:14 PM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on August 13, 2017, 11:55:22 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 13, 2017, 11:44:33 AM
Reading the last 2 posts makes me go against all true sporting instincts and start wishing for the anathema of wins for Dublin and Kerry.
And here we have the classic case of the Stockholm Syndrome, psychology students! :P
You're not very good at witty responses.
Humour, like Gaelic football is a very recent arrival in Fear's home County
Gaelic football is a recent arrival in Tyrone???
Organised football is. Why was Down the first occupied county to win the holiest of holies? Beating the shite out of each other has much deeper roots in Tyrone. Of course the political situation didn't help