PuC and the Liam Miller Fundraiser

[Milltown Row2]

Is that principle documented anywhere or just wheeled out because the GAA agreed to share here?

1.10 Amateur Status
The Association is an Amateur Association. A player, team,
official or member shall not accept payment in cash or
in kind in conjunction with the playing of Gaelic Games.
A player, team, official or member shall not contract
himself/itself to any agent other than those officially
approved by Central Council. Expenses paid to all officials,
players, and members shall not exceed the standard
rates laid down by the Central Council. Members of the
Association may not participate in full-time training. This
Rule shall not prohibit the payment of salaries or wages to
employees of the Association.
Penalty: Twenty four weeks Suspension or Expulsion

Thats not what you said though. Explain paid administrators and managers?

I think that's covered.. Managers get paid 'expenses' from a club, money comes from generally a rich clubman who'll put his hand in his pocket and pay someone.. not the club

[Baile Brigín 2]

Is that principle documented anywhere or just wheeled out because the GAA agreed to share here?

1.10 Amateur Status
The Association is an Amateur Association. A player, team,
official or member shall not accept payment in cash or
in kind in conjunction with the playing of Gaelic Games.
A player, team, official or member shall not contract
himself/itself to any agent other than those officially
approved by Central Council. Expenses paid to all officials,
players, and members shall not exceed the standard
rates laid down by the Central Council. Members of the
Association may not participate in full-time training. This
Rule shall not prohibit the payment of salaries or wages to
employees of the Association.
Penalty: Twenty four weeks Suspension or Expulsion

Thats not what you said though. Explain paid administrators and managers?

I think that's covered.. Managers get paid 'expenses' from a club, money comes from generally a rich clubman who'll put his hand in his pocket and pay someone.. not the club

Irrelevant to his point where the money comes from...

[five points]

Is that principle documented anywhere or just wheeled out because the GAA agreed to share here?

1.10 Amateur Status
The Association is an Amateur Association. A player, team,
official or member shall not accept payment in cash or
in kind in conjunction with the playing of Gaelic Games.
A player, team, official or member shall not contract
himself/itself to any agent other than those officially
approved by Central Council. Expenses paid to all officials,
players, and members shall not exceed the standard
rates laid down by the Central Council. Members of the
Association may not participate in full-time training. This
Rule shall not prohibit the payment of salaries or wages to
employees of the Association.
Penalty: Twenty four weeks Suspension or Expulsion

Thats not what you said though. Explain paid administrators and managers?

The bit I've highlighted.

[five points]

Irrelevant to his point where the money comes from...

No it's not. The GAA can't control contracts between private individuals.

[mup]

Is that principle documented anywhere or just wheeled out because the GAA agreed to share here?

1.10 Amateur Status
The Association is an Amateur Association. A player, team,
official or member shall not accept payment in cash or
in kind in conjunction with the playing of Gaelic Games.
A player, team, official or member shall not contract
himself/itself to any agent other than those officially
approved by Central Council. Expenses paid to all officials,
players, and members shall not exceed the standard
rates laid down by the Central Council. Members of the
Association may not participate in full-time training. This
Rule shall not prohibit the payment of salaries or wages to
employees of the Association.
Penalty: Twenty four weeks Suspension or Expulsion

'...in conjunction with the playing of Gaelic Games'.

Therefore they didn't break one of their core principles.

[five points]

Is that principle documented anywhere or just wheeled out because the GAA agreed to share here?

1.10 Amateur Status
The Association is an Amateur Association. A player, team,
official or member shall not accept payment in cash or
in kind in conjunction with the playing of Gaelic Games.
A player, team, official or member shall not contract
himself/itself to any agent other than those officially
approved by Central Council. Expenses paid to all officials,
players, and members shall not exceed the standard
rates laid down by the Central Council. Members of the
Association may not participate in full-time training. This
Rule shall not prohibit the payment of salaries or wages to
employees of the Association.
Penalty: Twenty four weeks Suspension or Expulsion

'...in conjunction with the playing of Gaelic Games'.

Therefore they didn't break one of their core principles.

Read the first sentence of 1.10 again

[mup]

Is that principle documented anywhere or just wheeled out because the GAA agreed to share here?

1.10 Amateur Status
The Association is an Amateur Association. A player, team,
official or member shall not accept payment in cash or
in kind in conjunction with the playing of Gaelic Games.
A player, team, official or member shall not contract
himself/itself to any agent other than those officially
approved by Central Council. Expenses paid to all officials,
players, and members shall not exceed the standard
rates laid down by the Central Council. Members of the
Association may not participate in full-time training. This
Rule shall not prohibit the payment of salaries or wages to
employees of the Association.
Penalty: Twenty four weeks Suspension or Expulsion

'...in conjunction with the playing of Gaelic Games'.

Therefore they didn't break one of their core principles.

Read the first sentence of 1.10 again

The GAA likes to think of itself as an amateur organisation. But it's not.

[five points]

Is that principle documented anywhere or just wheeled out because the GAA agreed to share here?

1.10 Amateur Status
The Association is an Amateur Association. A player, team,
official or member shall not accept payment in cash or
in kind in conjunction with the playing of Gaelic Games.
A player, team, official or member shall not contract
himself/itself to any agent other than those officially
approved by Central Council. Expenses paid to all officials,
players, and members shall not exceed the standard
rates laid down by the Central Council. Members of the
Association may not participate in full-time training. This
Rule shall not prohibit the payment of salaries or wages to
employees of the Association.
Penalty: Twenty four weeks Suspension or Expulsion

'...in conjunction with the playing of Gaelic Games'.

Therefore they didn't break one of their core principles.

Read the first sentence of 1.10 again

The GAA likes to think of itself as an amateur organisation. But it's not.

Beside the point. BB asked where the principle was documented.

[Baile Brigín 2]

Is that principle documented anywhere or just wheeled out because the GAA agreed to share here?

1.10 Amateur Status
The Association is an Amateur Association. A player, team,
official or member shall not accept payment in cash or
in kind in conjunction with the playing of Gaelic Games.
A player, team, official or member shall not contract
himself/itself to any agent other than those officially
approved by Central Council. Expenses paid to all officials,
players, and members shall not exceed the standard
rates laid down by the Central Council. Members of the
Association may not participate in full-time training. This
Rule shall not prohibit the payment of salaries or wages to
employees of the Association.
Penalty: Twenty four weeks Suspension or Expulsion

'...in conjunction with the playing of Gaelic Games'.

Therefore they didn't break one of their core principles.

Read the first sentence of 1.10 again

So concerts are banned too...?

[mup]

Is that principle documented anywhere or just wheeled out because the GAA agreed to share here?

1.10 Amateur Status
The Association is an Amateur Association. A player, team,
official or member shall not accept payment in cash or
in kind in conjunction with the playing of Gaelic Games.
A player, team, official or member shall not contract
himself/itself to any agent other than those officially
approved by Central Council. Expenses paid to all officials,
players, and members shall not exceed the standard
rates laid down by the Central Council. Members of the
Association may not participate in full-time training. This
Rule shall not prohibit the payment of salaries or wages to
employees of the Association.
Penalty: Twenty four weeks Suspension or Expulsion

'...in conjunction with the playing of Gaelic Games'.

Therefore they didn't break one of their core principles.

Read the first sentence of 1.10 again

The GAA likes to think of itself as an amateur organisation. But it's not.

Beside the point. BB asked where the principle was documented.

You quoted me and not BB.

You said one of it's principles was not to enrich individuals. That's not strictly true.

[Baile Brigín 2]

Its not almost true

[five points]

You said one of it's principles was not to enrich individuals. That's not strictly true.

Maybe check what enrichment means: making people rich.

[Baile Brigín 2]

You said one of it's principles was not to enrich individuals. That's not strictly true.

Maybe check what enrichment means: making people rich.

Like Ed Sheerin? Garth Brookes? Westlife?

[mup]

You said one of it's principles was not to enrich individuals. That's not strictly true.

Maybe check what enrichment means: making people rich.

I'm well aware of what enrichment means.

Could you point out the word enrichment in the principle that you quoted?

[rosnarun]

You said one of it's principles was not to enrich individuals. That's not strictly true.

Maybe check what enrichment means: making people rich.

Like Ed Sheerin? Garth Brookes? Westlife?

not members of the association , not competitors of the GAA indeed not sports men at all
complete red herring