The Sunday Game

[sid waddell]

Urbanisation doesn't help. But how big can Dublin get? How big does it become before the government do something? There's only so much land/houses in Dublin, and future increases in population has implications for all the infrastructure around the city.

Surely incentives are needed for big companies to set up in smaller towns, big building projects in rural Ireland, etc. There's good motorways now, so no reason why towns/villages along those routes can't be focused on and improved. The pandemic has shown people can work at home without living or commuting

Dublin city's geographical footprint is already very big

Lucan can't get much bigger, Tallaght can't get any bigger, the greater Blanchardstown area can't get much bigger, all this land is already built on, the mountains provide a barrier to expansion on the southside

A lot of residential areas in Dublin are becoming or will become quite old in terms of age profile

The Fingal commuter towns are where the real growth in population is happening and will continue to come

But that also means Meath and Kildare's population will continue to grow significantly, probably Louth's and Wicklow's too - in the same way that London has a large commuter belt outside the M25 - people move out when they are priced out - unless there is a systematic change in how land and housing is allocated

[Rossfan]

I suspect the top brass in Croke Pk are praying for a Rhubarb victory so they can put off having to face up to the Inter County SFC problem.

[Ed Ricketts]

Of course, Dublin will remain whole for a while yet. Another decade, at least. But you'd really have to have your head up your arse to not see the direction of travel in this over the last three or four years.

The Dublin problem chat was confined to internet backwaters like this place and Ewan MacKenna's twitter feed as recently as 2016/17. Now it's worthy of dedicated segments on the Sunday Game. It's brought up in commentary after each and every routine hammering they dole out. Prominent figures in football are speaking out. It really has become the most prevalent talking point in GAA circles throughout much of the country.

The Dubs will fight their corner well, and will hold off their fate for longer than should be obliged. But change will come. The rest of the country will demand it and will win out.

And they will win out because the GAA, as we know it, cannot survive without the intercounty football championship. And the intercounty football championship cannot survive in a reality where only one team wins anything. Dublin have to concede something - either their success or their singularity - and the machine seems much too productive for it to be the former.

[Cunny Funt]

Des Cahill is a terrible host. I took a dislike to him since he tried to, and more or less did, stitch Eamon O'Hara on controversy with Kevin Walsh to get himself a headline. He tried the same with Donal Og a week later regarding the Cork strike bu Donal Og was too cute. A terrible host.

I didn't watch it but tbh I find RTE analysis very poor in general so usually just record the sunday game and fast forward through it.

I'd agree RTÉ GAA coverage is worse than awful. Des is very sly with the way he tries to grab the attention.

Fair play to Sky for putting the GAA matches on their mix channel I'll be watching the final there and we should get some decent analysis from Canavan, McGuinness.

[Farrandeelin]

Apologies for resurrecting this thread, but have RTÉ and Sky announced their schedule of games for the championship this year?

[Blowitupref]

Apologies for resurrecting this thread, but have RTÉ and Sky announced their schedule of games for the championship this year?

SKY have.

April 16th

LSHC Wexford v Galway

USFC Fermanagh v Tyrone

April 23rd

LSHC Wexford v Dublin

MSHC Limerick v Waterford

April 30th

USFC Monaghan v Down

LSFC Dublin v Offaly/Wexford

May 7th

MSFC Cork v Kerry

May 14th

LSHC Dublin v Kilkenny

May 21st

LSHC Kilkenny v Wexford OR LSHC Galway v Dublin

June 4th

SFC Qualifiers Rd 1

June 11th

SFC Qualifiers Rd 2

SFC Qualifiers Rd 2

June 25th

All Ireland SFC Quarter Final

All Ireland SFC Quarter Final

July 2nd

All Ireland SHC Semi Final

July 3rd

All Ireland SHC Semi Final

July 9th

All Ireland SFC Semi Final

July 10th

All Ireland SFC Semi Final

July 17th

All Ireland SHC Final

July 24th

All Ireland SFC Final

[Rossfan]

Sky did a few weeks ago, can't recall details but a good few Hurley Provincials.
They have the might not happen Cork/Kerry football though 

[manfromdelmonte]

Hurling championships started last weekend.
Zero coverage

This is where the Tailteann Cup will end up

[Rossfan]

And.......

[johnnycool]

Hurling championships started last weekend.
Zero coverage

This is where the Tailteann Cup will end up

Absolutely correct.

And.......

and someday it might be Roscommon footballers playing in the Tailteann Cup with zero coverage just like the Roscommon hurlers now.
That'll please sponsors.

[lenny]

Hurling championships started last weekend.
Zero coverage

This is where the Tailteann Cup will end up

Yeah, because those counties wouldve been hurling box office before they brought in those pesky tiers. I'd say the matches wouldve been on live with a big build up and everything. What planet are you living on?

[Farrandeelin]

Hurling championships started last weekend.
Zero coverage

This is where the Tailteann Cup will end up

Yeah, because those counties wouldve been hurling box office before they brought in those pesky tiers. I'd say the matches wouldve been on live with a big build up and everything. What planet are you living on?

True, but the Tailteann cup is different. Down are probably going to be in it. Could you imagine Down v Cavan getting a mention in the results round-up in a few years time.

[lenny]

Hurling championships started last weekend.
Zero coverage

This is where the Tailteann Cup will end up

Yeah, because those counties wouldve been hurling box office before they brought in those pesky tiers. I'd say the matches wouldve been on live with a big build up and everything. What planet are you living on?

True, but the Tailteann cup is different. Down are probably going to be in it. Could you imagine Down v Cavan getting a mention in the results round-up in a few years time.

Derry hurlers have had far more coverage in papers and tv since the tiered system was brought in. It's still not a lot but it's more than before. Down and Cavan have the capacity to bring decent support to their matches and that's why they'll always get decent coverage. That's the difference with the weaker hurling counties. It's not much craic having a live game on with only 50 spectators. A Down Cavan Tailteann Cup final or semi final with with 10,000 at it will get plenty of coverage and deservedly so.

[Rossfan]

The Ring/Rackard/Meagher teams are almost all from places where Hurling is a micro sport and as Lenny said never got TV coverage.
Majority of Tailteann Counties are mainly football Counties.
Cast yer minds back to 2019, 2018 and back....
Apart from when Mayowestros were in the early rounds the other 1st/2nd Round Qualifier games used to get about 2 mins coverage between them.
The TC will stand or fall on its own merits not by how much of the games appear on the (awful) Sunday Game night time programme.

[Eire90]

From a promotional point of view should the tailteann cup not have been called something like the All ireland plate All ireland Shield  or all ireland intermediate cup or something like that  does having the word all ireland make it sound more important than tailteann cup.