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[1 account - last on 2013 approx... And you're in luck - I'm not selling anything. Just my opinion.]

1 account - last on 2013 approx... And you're in luck - I'm not selling anything. Just my opinion.

Must of taken you a week to read all the pages you missed

[INTERESTING! Lets see how this one plays out!]

I hear augher are putting in a serious shift in pre-season with this new manager. Possible contenders for a title this year?

Someone from Keady Co Armagh sets up an account to talk about Augher pre season training..... INTERESTING! Lets see how this one plays out!

Actually LOL'd too much at this. Cracker

[I don't believe reserve football is the 'player development route' for young players that it might have been in the past. My experience is that good young players these days are exposed to enough good quality football in terms of schools, county squads etc and tend to go straight into senior teams (in fact you probably wouldn't want your young star playing in a reserve match!) but there does need to be an outlet for the average or over the hill footballer, whether its the lad who's totally committed and just isn't good enough for seniors or the lad that's happy to train the odd night and take a game for the stiffs at the weekend.]

Nail on head here TyroneOnlooker -

I don't believe reserve football is the 'player development route' for young players that it might have been in the past. My experience is that good young players these days are exposed to enough good quality football in terms of schools, county squads etc and tend to go straight into senior teams (in fact you probably wouldn't want your young star playing in a reserve match!) but there does need to be an outlet for the average or over the hill footballer, whether its the lad who's totally committed and just isn't good enough for seniors or the lad that's happy to train the odd night and take a game for the stiffs at the weekend.

The point was to let the majority of reserve players (not good enough for seniors, cant commit to seniors, best years over them but still want to play) play constant football with no large breaks in the season. Local soccer or rugby can provide a full season of regular saturday games and let the players enjoy their saturday night and weekend with family if needs

The small number of 5 or 6 who float between the 2 panels is the same as county football in my opinion. Football grinds to a halt for the few and the rest suffer

Ive said it before on here and I will say it again, I think its just time to scrap reserve football in Tyrone. 

I would have previously said that the county board didn't give a fcuk about reserve football / players but fair play to them on this occasion in that they had really put in some effort to come up with a viable and exciting solution / proposal to what was a dying competition.  I had no idea though that the clubs themselves are the real ones who do not give a toss about reserve football or essentially their reserve players.  That's what it has boiled down to here.  Elitism in the GAA once again takes hold.  I find it ironic that clubs crib and cry about elitism when it comes to club vs county matters but they have done the same with their own players on this occasion    

At the end of the day, the reserve team is considered a burden, lets be honest, nobody really says it but it is.  A lot of clubs now have outside managers and the only priority is the senior team.  Bit like the premier league, the managers will be judged on the senior teams performance & results, not what the ressies are doing.  The managers themselves have enough on their plate without worrying about his 24 year old reserve corner back who can barely solo or his 16 stone corner forward who is gassed out after 3 runs, they just dont want the hassle of it and I think thats why so many clubs have opted against the new proposals.  Its new, it requires change and will require more effort which they aren't prepared to make.  People do not like change. 

Last night was a chance to perhaps save it and make it a competition where clubs and reserve players could find their level with the prospects of promotion / relegation.  It could have finally been a meaningful competition for the lesser / older and developing players within clubs.  Maybe give some of them more a sense of purpose playing in a separate competition. It could have shone a light in terms of social media coverage on a new competition and the lesser players within clubs might have got the chance to see their picture or name on a match report in some of the local papers or teamtalk.  As some other poster alluded to, Moy reserves in division 1 is a waste of everyone's time from the players to the management,the spectators to the referee.

Time to put a pin in this shambles of a competition, its done.

Started off a clown, saved yourself last paragraph and then ended it being a clown again. You MUST be from 1 of the so called big clubs in Tyrone to have such ignorance about reserve football

In all honesty, what is the chances of Stevie Ferguson and Mchugh taking moortown to senior football. In tattyreagh he had James Darcy, Eoghan Murray and the Harkins, in moortown he has a pile of overrated youth players

With the McLernons fit and Mark Devlin off the U17s last year Moortown could well push promotion very close this year. These players added alongside Peter Devlin and the likes they have a very good team.
Other than Edendork no other teams in Intermediate would worry them.

Forgot about the young u20 Tarlach Quinn, was up watching the htc macrory game on Saturday, bagged a massive goal for them and never stopped running. One for the future of Tyrone as well

So................. in your 1st comment you slated Moortown and then very quickly your praising 1 of their "overrated youth players"

Did you forget to change your sign in or just on the wind up initially

In all honesty, what is the chances of Stevie Ferguson and Mchugh taking moortown to senior football. In tattyreagh he had James Darcy, Eoghan Murray and the Harkins, in moortown he has a pile of overrated youth players

Is it not true a "pile of overrated youth players" are no longer involved in football around Moortown??

Reserve football not working in some clubs because players dont want to play....new format may make no difference..... If players put everything and anything before football wont matter what night reserve games are played on....

Thats as ignorant as comment as I have seen on here. You mustna have much of a personal life to think the world revolves around football. Senior level maybe. Problem is numbers in small clubs and interest due to lack of regular game time (and being offered other sports regularly, games and social side) Seperate nights are a major positive in my eyes and should massively improve the ratio of reserves games being conceeded.

Donaghmore about to pay the man who just missed out on Clonoe job serious money....

How much is serious money nowadays?

Going rate for a D1 manager payment can be anything from 12k to 25k. Depending on club and manager involved.

25k for one man? Seems like an awful amount of money. How much would the likes of McBride be getting in Errigal? And does it come with a championship clause?

Seems stupid errigal paying anyone at all to manage them considering there resources. For a club to pay someone whilst having probably the greatest player to ever play the game at there club seems silly.

Agree, however there is no point opening that can of worms. I have just learnt not to expect anything simple by Errigal. With men like Canavan, the Hartes, O'Roarke, and a rack of other men with valuable experience on the pitch and on the line, you'd think they can find someone within their own ranks that could step up?

Don't forget Enda McGinley. He took them to back to back minor championships in 17 and 18, surely the logical step would be for him to take the senior job and help bring these boys through. He managed Swatragh this year so time mustn't be an issue for him.

Time maybe isnt an issue, but doubt Errigal would be interested in giving him the figures he asked certain Armagh club for or got from Swatragh

Enda McGinley lost a lot of credibility when he wrote that utter bollox in the IN about how young lads shouldn't be going anywhere over summer and instead should invest any spare time into their clubs. A man who immediately ran to other clubs to take their money for coaching when he'd finished playing. No chance of him coaching Errigal if they aren't paying him.

Not alone does he coach them for a small fortune but word on the street is he also picks up their physio bill...........
Some pound notes there in total

[2 All Irelands in 11 years would be deemed a very poor return down in Kerry as they are the traditional powerhouses of the game]

In Dublin manager wins 6 all Ireland's in 7 seasons steps aside

Meanwhile in Tyrone.......... 

When Mickey goes he will likely pass the torch onto Mark, so he will not really be gone anyway.

It's depressing as fcuk to be a Tyrone supporter especially when you know the potential of what could be otherwise.

We're currently a top 4/5 team in Ireland. What is this potential that suggests we're better than the counties above us? U20/U21 is the grade to me that suggests what players are coming through. Ignoring last years u20 Ulster win as players not through yet we've only won one Ulster and all Ireland in the last 13 years. Dublin have dominated Leinster and picked up 4 all Ireland's.

How many Tyrone players would currently make the Dublin team?

Even at club level our champions consistently struggle outside Tyrone. Where is the evidence that Harte should be doing better than he is?

We're also spending less money than the other top counties on the county team which is another disadvantage.

Harte raised the bar for Tyrone football and is now judged under that (unfairly so).

If you look at teams that have won All Ireland's since Tyrone last won one.

Kerry (09 and 14)
Cork (10)
Donegal (12)
Dublin (11, 13, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19)

2 All Irelands in 11 years would be deemed a very poor return down in Kerry as they are the traditional powerhouses of the game along with Dublin.
Cork have fallen away to ridicule and embarrassment since they last won an AI.
Donegal are more or less at the same level as Tyrone are currently and managed to stay at the top but Tyrone have maintained that over a decade and a complete overhaul of their glory years.

You take a look at counties like Derry, Down, Armagh, Galway, Meath etc and how far they have fallen from grace after their glory days of the 90s/00s and I think Tyrone can be grateful that they have remained relevant.

The defeat for Galbally means that we will now have a full pack for the McKenna Cup so Quinn and Kerr will get their chance to impress before the league.

2 x All Irelands for Kerry and how many times have they changed manager since 09??
While Tyrone stick to a dinosaur of the game

[Will Grimes be the new Ricey?]

Will Grimes be the new Ricey?

Looking forward to seeing how he gets on and think he will be good for the team.

Is he not looking at a 4 month ban?

what for?

Is there not a "list" of accusations

[surely would have needed a transfer back to come on to Cookstown?]

Big set back for Cookstown to be relegated to Division 3 for 2020.

Was at the game yesterday. Fair play to Newtown they were the hungrier side and deserved their victory.

Them v Killeeshil next week a massive tie for both.

As someone said earlier, there won't be too many sad to see Cookstown go down. Something about them over recent times leaves a bad taste in the mouth. Talk of infighting tells its own story. Poor squad at the minute and no real sparks of hope at underage so may well find themselves down there for a wee bit. Kildress can attest that it's not an easy division to get out of once you go down.

Was Mugsy not with Fulham Irish this year. Wonder was he registered with them as a player as well as manager? If so, surely would have needed a transfer back to come on to Cookstown?

They lost, who cares. Bigger story if he had've dragged them over the line

Is it not a bit disrespectful to all other Junior clubs for people to be saying "glad to see Cookstown down to junior" as if its the worst thing in the world. Some clubs have no choice due to numbers etc.... but Cookstown did turn alot of people against them with their antics a few years back

Mc aliskey delivered in 2018. His reward? Sub every game this year.

Did you forget to change usernames ??

[cancelled the stag]

I'd suggest that maybe last weekend didn't suit Owen Roes as I'm sure half the parish was at the all star awards in Dublin. If Augher wanted the points that badly they'd have cancelled the stag. I've missed many occasions over the head of club football - obviously doesn't matter a big pile in that squad.

Catch yourself on you clown. I actually hope you are being sarcastic with this post

Fella's have lives outside of football, I know many men who have given up too early in their playing days as the demands of GAA was getting ridiculous for the amount of time put in v's the rewards out

[Errigal 3rds]

Junior:
Eskra V Errigal 3rds
Drumragh V Kildress
Kileeshil V Brockagh
Glenelly V Rock

Intermediate:
Pomeroy V Loughmacrory
Galbally V Aghyaran
Urney V Owen Roes

Moortown V Gortin
Winners V Greencastle

This Weekends games then.

Clogher V Greencastle - Greencastle
Beragh V Loughmacrory - Loughmacrory
Aghyaran V Augher - Augher
Moortown V Gortin - Gortin

Trillick V Dromore - Trillick
Killyclogher V Donaghmore - Killyclogher
Moy V Clonoe - Clonoe
Ardboe V Coalisland - Ardboe

6/9 last weekend