FAI...New Manager Hunt continues

[saffron sam2]

You should know then that there are strict protocols around anthems and flags in rugby which see no Irish NA abroad and GSTQ in Belfast and The Irish NA in Dublin. The Presidential Salute is a courtesy to the President. Ulster is also represented by the 9 County Flag being flown.

Stop making things up. No such protocol exists or existed.

Wally.

You are the Wally, the whole row over the Italy match at Ravenhill was because this agreed protocol was gone back on.

The whole row at the Italy match was because people like you made up some nonsense about an agreed protocol.

Where is the evidence of this protocol?
Stop making things up.

When you get a chance, you could read this link.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2007/feb/27/comment.gdnsport3

The only (unwritten) protocol that seems to have been broken was staging the game at Ravenhill in the first place.

[Olaf]

You should know then that there are strict protocols around anthems and flags in rugby which see no Irish NA abroad and GSTQ in Belfast and The Irish NA in Dublin. The Presidential Salute is a courtesy to the President. Ulster is also represented by the 9 County Flag being flown.

Stop making things up. No such protocol exists or existed.

Wally.

You are the Wally, the whole row over the Italy match at Ravenhill was because this agreed protocol was gone back on.

The whole row at the Italy match was because people like you made up some nonsense about an agreed protocol.

Where is the evidence of this protocol?
Stop making things up.

When you get a chance, you could read this link.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2007/feb/27/comment.gdnsport3

The only (unwritten) protocol that seems to have been broken was staging the game at Ravenhill in the first place.

...and I thought that rugby on this island has united everybody on the island over the years

The IRFU panicked and made an insulting  mess of it.

[AQMP]

Anyone see Part 1 of "Green is the Colour" tonight?. Took 15 min to warm up but enjoyed it from there on!.. Anyway, the initial F.A. in Ireland was based in Belfast in the 1880s or thereabouts.. Nearly sure one of the contributors said Cliftonville were the first club formed in the country.. Went onto say how in the early days, soccer was dominated by Presbyterian officials in the North, who wouldn't play on a Sunday and hence the Saturday afternoon tradition.. So you would think that the first club formed in Belfast would be of a Unionist tradition or at most, middle of the road!..

Cliftonville used to be a 'unionist' club. The Cliftonville Road and surrounding area at one time was very gentrified, with big houses occupied by doctors, solicitors and business types. The facilities around that area, therefore, like the golf club and the football club would have been patronised by unionist middle class types. As late as the 1960s, there would've been a union flag flying above Solitude.

And then what happened?. Did they go neutral for a while?. Hard to imagine that transition with the history associated with it.

On a separate note players are wearing black armbands for the Italy game.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-18100365

Cliftonville remained a strictly amateur club (God bless them) up until the mid 1970s which resulted in them become whipping boys in the league from post war on.  That together with demographic changes in the sectarian map of Belfast meant that when results began to improve the nature of the "local" support had changed.

[glens abu]

Great work by Niall Murphy,the Loughinisland families and FAI in getting UEFA to allow the Irish team to wear black armbands when they play Italy.The 18th Ann of that terrible night.

[magpie seanie]

Great work by Niall Murphy,the Loughinisland families and FAI in getting UEFA to allow the Irish team to wear black armbands when they play Italy.The 18th Ann of that terrible night.

It's entirely fitting and appropriate given the circumstances. Well done to all involved.

[Olaf]

And a lot do, especially nationalist supporters, the Yellow backgrounded Ulster flag at least has official status and is used not only in Rugby but also in Hockey and some other sports organised on an all island basis. It represents all the 9 Counties and as someone pointed out Tommy Bowe of Monaghan was and will be a fans favourite. There are a lot more Ulster Rugby flags than either Ulster Flag which in my opinion is good and something you tend to see in both Leinster and Munster.
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Ulster rugby is now  a  club in the same way as other European teams are constituted. The provincial connection , whilst not lost ,has been diluted even since 1999. The yellow flag is as relevant/irrelevant as the NI flag and therefore has no "official status".

[MW]

Anyone see Part 1 of "Green is the Colour" tonight?. Took 15 min to warm up but enjoyed it from there on!.. Anyway, the initial F.A. in Ireland was based in Belfast in the 1880s or thereabouts.. Nearly sure one of the contributors said Cliftonville were the first club formed in the country.. Went onto say how in the early days, soccer was dominated by Presbyterian officials in the North, who wouldn't play on a Sunday and hence the Saturday afternoon tradition.. So you would think that the first club formed in Belfast would be of a Unionist tradition or at most, middle of the road!..

I'm hoping to catch this on RTE's version of iplayer - sounds like an interesting series with particular "NI" interest in the early episodes. Yes indeed the IFA was founded in 1880 (third oldest football association in the world) and Cliftonville are Ireland's oldest club (leaving aside Limavady's pretensions!) having been founded in 1879 (they didn't acquire a mainly nationalist following until around their centenary year, btw). Sounds like the "Presbyterian" thing was overplayed though - Ireland was no different to England, Scotland and Wales with regards to playing on a Saturday afaik.

[upmonaghansayswe]

Anyone see Part 1 of "Green is the Colour" tonight?. Took 15 min to warm up but enjoyed it from there on!.. Anyway, the initial F.A. in Ireland was based in Belfast in the 1880s or thereabouts.. Nearly sure one of the contributors said Cliftonville were the first club formed in the country.. Went onto say how in the early days, soccer was dominated by Presbyterian officials in the North, who wouldn't play on a Sunday and hence the Saturday afternoon tradition.. So you would think that the first club formed in Belfast would be of a Unionist tradition or at most, middle of the road!..

I'm hoping to catch this on RTE's version of iplayer - sounds like an interesting series with particular "NI" interest in the early episodes. Yes indeed the IFA was founded in 1880 (third oldest football association in the world) and Cliftonville are Ireland's oldest club (leaving aside Limavady's pretensions!) having been founded in 1879 (they didn't acquire a mainly nationalist following until around their centenary year, btw). Sounds like the "Presbyterian" thing was overplayed though - Ireland was no different to England, Scotland and Wales with regards to playing on a Saturday afaik.

Ah I was just rambling there.. Just an aside really,  they didn't dwell to much on it except to compare it with how the GAA went for the Sunday option.. Its some story though!. As MnaG says, a Union flag would have been flown at Solitude until the 60s, yet by the 80s you say their following would have been mainly nationalist!..

[MW]

Henry McDonald writes an interesting chapter in one of his books about his experiences during the genesis of the "Red Army" around 1978-79. (an auspicious year for the Reds as they were the first club in Ireland to experience a centenary, and they won the Irish Cup - their first major trophy since something like 1910)

[Applesisapples]

And a lot do, especially nationalist supporters, the Yellow backgrounded Ulster flag at least has official status and is used not only in Rugby but also in Hockey and some other sports organised on an all island basis. It represents all the 9 Counties and as someone pointed out Tommy Bowe of Monaghan was and will be a fans favourite. There are a lot more Ulster Rugby flags than either Ulster Flag which in my opinion is good and something you tend to see in both Leinster and Munster.

Ulster rugby is now  a  club in the same way as other European teams are constituted. The provincial connection , whilst not lost ,has been diluted even since 1999. The yellow flag is as relevant/irrelevant as the NI flag and therefore has no "official status".
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Take a look at the Ulster Branch Badge then.

[The Worker]

Anyone know where sells the Ireland home jersey in the north?

I tried jjb but all they ad was northern ireland jerseys 

[Nally Stand]

Heard about this site yest which has the jerseys for dirt cheap but going by delivery info, it could mean the shirt may not arrive with you until after the Euros start...

http://www.maxxsoccer.com/holland-home-shorts-12/14.html

P.s. Despite the link saying 'Holland Home Shorts', it actually is a link for the Ireland shirt!

[The Worker]

Heard about this site yest which has the jerseys for dirt cheap but going by delivery info, it could mean the shirt may not arrive with you until after the Euros start...

http://www.maxxsoccer.com/holland-home-shorts-12/14.html

P.s. Despite the link saying 'Holland Home Shorts', it actually is a link for the Ireland shirt!

That seems to be similar to soccer triads. Wouldn't be sure anot their quality to be honest.

[general]

Anyone know where sells the Ireland home jersey in the north?

http://www.jdsports.co.uk/product/umbro-republic-of-ireland-home-shirt-2011/12/28653/

thers also a very nice away white jersey with keane printed on back, steep at £55 imo

[Olaf]

And a lot do, especially nationalist supporters, the Yellow backgrounded Ulster flag at least has official status and is used not only in Rugby but also in Hockey and some other sports organised on an all island basis. It represents all the 9 Counties and as someone pointed out Tommy Bowe of Monaghan was and will be a fans favourite. There are a lot more Ulster Rugby flags than either Ulster Flag which in my opinion is good and something you tend to see in both Leinster and Munster.

Ulster rugby is now  a  club in the same way as other European teams are constituted. The provincial connection , whilst not lost ,has been diluted even since 1999. The yellow flag is as relevant/irrelevant as the NI flag and therefore has no "official status".

Take a look at the Ulster Branch Badge then.
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I have ....though it is not they who are playing tomorrow I believe.