Guide to the Sam Maguire and Tailteann Cup in 2024

seafoid · April 29, 2024, 10:38:36 AM

Quote from: GAABoardMod5 on April 28, 2024, 07:32:27 PMDates for the group stages of the Sam Maguire Cup will be:

Round 1 Seeds 1 & 2 will have home venue

18/19 May:

Seed 1 (Munster/Connacht Champions) v Seed 3

Seed 2 (Munster/Connacht Runners Up) v Seed 4

25/26 May:

Seed 1 (Leinster/Ulster Champions) v Seed 3

Seed 2 (Leinster/Ulster Runners Up) v Seed 4

Round 2 Seeds 3 & 4 will have home venue

1/2 June:

Seed 3 v Seed 2

Seed 4 v Seed 1

Round 3 Neutral venues

15/16 June

Seed 1 v Seed 2

Seed 3 v Seed 4

Tailteann Cup

Round 1 Seeds 1 & 2 will have home venue

11/12 May:

Seed 1 v Seed 3

Seed 2 v Seed 4

Round 2 Seeds 3 & 4 will have home venue

18/19 May:

Seed 3 v Seed 2

Seed 4 v Seed1

Round 3 Neutral venues

1/2 June:

Seed 1 v Seed 2

Seed 3 v Seed 4

It is all very seedy

Wildweasel74 · April 29, 2024, 02:48:33 PM

Here's the problem, Everybody worried who they get, Dublin don't give a damn who they get, as their attitude is, we beat everybody out there.

yellowcard · April 29, 2024, 03:57:08 PM

It's a whole load of games to whittle the number of teams down from 16 to 12. And when the draw is made you will be able to predict the 4 teams who will be eliminated with a fair degree of certainty. The main interest will centre around which teams top their groups.

Armagh18 · April 29, 2024, 04:42:24 PM

Quote from: yellowcard on April 29, 2024, 03:57:08 PMIt's a whole load of games to whittle the number of teams down from 16 to 12. And when the draw is made you will be able to predict the 4 teams who will be eliminated with a fair degree of certainty. The main interest will centre around which teams top their groups.

If the last 16 went to straight knock out or even a back door system where you can lose 1 game it'd be far better. Could end up with a group of Dublin, Donegal/Armagh, Derry and Cork which would be very strong. Obviously everyone will want to avoid the Connacht and Ulster runners up.

Rossfan · April 29, 2024, 04:56:15 PM

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on April 29, 2024, 02:48:33 PMHere's the problem, Everybody worried who they get, Dublin don't give a dawn who they get, as their attitude is, we beat everybody out there.

After 12 seasons of mainly beating everyone out there.....

armaghniac · April 29, 2024, 08:48:50 PM

Quote from: Armagh18 on April 29, 2024, 04:42:24 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on April 29, 2024, 03:57:08 PMIt's a whole load of games to whittle the number of teams down from 16 to 12. And when the draw is made you will be able to predict the 4 teams who will be eliminated with a fair degree of certainty. The main interest will centre around which teams top their groups.
If the last 16 went to straight knock out or even a back door system where you can lose 1 game it'd be far better. Could end up with a group of Dublin, Donegal/Armagh, Derry and Cork which would be very strong. Obviously everyone will want to avoid the Connacht and Ulster runners up.

Were this to happen, Dublin would have Derry in Croke Park, Armagh would be away to Derry

but would get Dublin in a neutral venue. We might have a chance against Cork at home.

onefineday · **Today** at 12:22:28 AM

Quote from: yellowcard on April 29, 2024, 03:57:08 PMIt's a whole load of games to whittle the number of teams down from 16 to 12. And when the draw is made you will be able to predict the 4 teams who will be eliminated with a fair degree of certainty. The main interest will centre around which teams top their groups.

That's true, because after last year, we all now realise what an advantage finishing top appears to be.

I said last year, if additional jeopardy is needed, we could have the four group winners and the best 2nd place team all progress directly to the quarters. The third place team with the worst record would be eliminated - that should mean little or no dead rubbers.

I'd also tweak it by giving the provincial winners and the 4 top league places (who weren't provincial winners) two home games and get rid of the neutral ground game - this would provide better incentives for provincial winners and league placings. It would also boost attendances as the neutral games last year were very poorly attended iirc.

armaghniac · **Today** at 12:31:04 AM

Quote from: onefineday on Today at 12:22:28 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on April 29, 2024, 03:57:08 PMIt's a whole load of games to whittle the number of teams down from 16 to 12. And when the draw is made you will be able to predict the 4 teams who will be eliminated with a fair degree of certainty. The main interest will centre around which teams top their groups.
That's true, because after last year, we all now realise what an advantage finishing top appears to be.

I said last year, if additional jeopardy is needed, we could have the four group winners and the best 2nd place team all progress directly to the quarters. The third place team with the worst record would be eliminated - that should mean little or no dead rubbers.

I'd also tweak it by giving the provincial winners and the 4 top league places (who weren't provincial winners) two home games and get rid of the neutral ground game - this would provide better incentives for provincial winners and league placings. It would also boost attendances as the neutral games last year were very poorly attended iirc.

But this scheme basically advantages Dublin and Kerry, if they didn't have enough advantages.

snoopdog · **Today** at 09:41:39 AM

Quote from: armaghniac on Today at 12:31:04 AM
Quote from: onefineday on Today at 12:22:28 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on April 29, 2024, 03:57:08 PMIt's a whole load of games to whittle the number of teams down from 16 to 12. And when the draw is made you will be able to predict the 4 teams who will be eliminated with a fair degree of certainty. The main interest will centre around which teams top their groups.
That's true, because after last year, we all now realise what an advantage finishing top appears to be.

I said last year, if additional jeopardy is needed, we could have the four group winners and the best 2nd place team all progress directly to the quarters. The third place team with the worst record would be eliminated - that should mean little or no dead rubbers.

I'd also tweak it by giving the provincial winners and the 4 top league places (who weren't provincial winners) two home games and get rid of the neutral ground game - this would provide better incentives for provincial winners and league placings. It would also boost attendances as the neutral games last year were very poorly attended iirc.

But this scheme basically advantages Dublin and Kerry, if they didn't have enough advantages.

Everything the GAA do has Dublin and Kerry in its thinking. They wouldn't do it if it didn't give either an advantage.