Maigh Eo v Doire

Started by Tubberman, June 19, 2017, 08:56:48 AM

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Tubberman

A chance to get the show back on the road for both counties.
Mayo gave a better performance against Galway than Derry did against Tyrone, but have Mayo the hunger for another trek through the back door?
Given Tyrone's performance against Donegal yesterday, was Derry's performance as bad as it seemed at the time?

Have Mayo ever beaten Derry in Championship? No. Will they beat them in 2 weeks time? They should. 
"Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall."

macdanger2

#1
Revenge for 2007 hopefully

Tubberman

Quote from: macdanger2 on June 19, 2017, 09:50:34 AM
Revenge for 2007 hopefully

That was a depressing day, and a sad end to Ciaran McDonald's time in a Mayo jersey. Brought on when the game was lost. 
"Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall."

tbrick18

Lads, yous have nothing to worry about. We were rightly relegated to Div3 this year.
We barely have a panel with players seemingly dropping out every other week.
Derry are currently a mess at this level and I dont think we've been as poor in 30 years. I'd say Mayo will win this at a canter unfortunately.

rosnarun

Quote from: Tubberman on June 19, 2017, 09:57:55 AM
Quote from: macdanger2 on June 19, 2017, 09:50:34 AM
Revenge for 2007 hopefully

That was a depressing day, and a sad end to Ciaran McDonald's time in a Mayo jersey. Brought on when the game was lost. 
in my time supporting mayo i think that was the worst day ever.
derry were just playing with mayo and must have been no great shakes themselves at the time if they were in the Qualifier.
seems more than 10 years ago, clarke and andy the only survivors . so much for P Hanley being the Choosen one
ROUND 2: Derry 2-13 Mayo 1-6 (Celtic Park, Derry, 14/7/2007). MAYO: D Clarke, T Cunniffe, L O'Malley, T Howley; D Heaney, D Kilcullen, T Mortimer (0-1); P Harte, D Brady; BJ Padden, P Hanley (0-1), A Dillon; C Mortimer (0-1, free), B Moran (1-2), A Moran (0-1). Subs: A Kilcoyne (0-1) for Dillon (half-time), A Campbell for Kilcoyne (43 mins, inj), K O'Neill for Padden (51 mins), P Gardiner for Cunniffe (55 mins), C McDonald for Campbell (58 mins). Blood sub: R McGarrity for D Brady (69 mins).
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Taylor

This will turn into a massacre. Mayo will need to fine tune after the Galway debacle and Doire are just plain useless.


seafoid

Derry might be better in the qfs. Mayo will need their mojo.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

thebuzz

Quote from: seafoid on June 19, 2017, 01:24:44 PM
Derry might be better in the qfs. Mayo will need their mojo.

Nah we had an easy game in Fraher Field and managed to kick 16 or 17 wides. Mayo would have put up a cricket score against Waterford.

Syferus

Quote from: thebuzz on June 19, 2017, 01:57:18 PM
Quote from: seafoid on June 19, 2017, 01:24:44 PM
Derry might be better in the qfs. Mayo will need their mojo.

Nah we had an easy game in Fraher Field and managed to kick 16 or 17 wides. Mayo would have put up a cricket score against Waterford.

In cricket they count wides so you have a point there.

From the Bunker

A home town game again in the qualifiers for Mayo. There will be a partisan Mayo attendance of 12k plus. Will there be 1,500 Derry supporters? Will there be 500 Derry supporters? Hard to know! Anyway home games take a lot of work off the backroom team of the hosts. The hosts can concentrate on football and forget about other annoying logistics.

One would expect an out of sorts Mayo to win. There's not much evidence to say otherwise.

Glad Mayo did not meet Sligo again. It was one tie that would not have grabbed the imagination for both sides!

TheImpactCode

Is it not the county board and backroom teams concern to smooth out logistics.  it's the managers job to focus on the game.

Mayo still had the winning of the game against Galway but Rochford doesn't seem to have found a settled 15 - with O'Shea in and out of the team.

Ballaghman

Quote from: TheImpactCode on June 20, 2017, 09:02:56 AM
Is it not the county board and backroom teams concern to smooth out logistics.  it's the managers job to focus on the game.

Mayo still had the winning of the game against Galway but Rochford doesn't seem to have found a settled 15 - with O'Shea in and out of the team.
The O'Shea bit can't be helped for the moment anyway. Apparently he's struggling with a groin injury. We need him to get that sorted if we're to have any hope this summer. If that means resting him then that's what should be done.

Estimator

Just had a look at the Derry team from that fixture in 2007.

Derry: B Gillis, M McGoldrick, K McCloy, G O'Kane, L Hinphey, SM Lockhart, F McEldowney, F Doherty, J Conway (0-1), B McGoldrick (0-1), P Murphy, E Muldoon (1-1), C Devlin (1-1), P Bradley (0-5, 2 frees), C Gilligan (0-3, 2 frees).
Subs: M Lynch for McGoldrick (29 mins), R Wilkinson (0-1) for Murphy (56), Patsy Bradley for Conway (60), P O'Hea for Hinphey (67), G Donaghy for Gilligan (70)

and then compared it to the team that beat Waterford on Saturday

Derry: B McKinless, N Keenan 0-1, B Rogers, K McKaigue, C McFaul 0-2, C McWilliams, D Heavron 1-1, C McAtamney, C McKaigue 0-1, R Bell 0-2, N O'Loughlin 0-2(1f), M McEvoy, D Tallon 0-3, J Kielt 0-3(2fs), B Heron.
Subs: E McGuckin 0-1 for O'Loughlin (ht), M Lynch 0-1 for Bell (45), S McGuigan for Kielt (48), N Forrester for McFaul (55), C Nevin for McAtamney (60), G O'Neill for Heron (64), C Nevin for McAtamney (68)

4 All Stars in the 2007, 0 in the 2017 team.
Mayo are 1/5 with the bookies, and Derry 4/1.
If Mayo have any design on playing football in August and September, they should win this one pulling up.
Ulster League Champions 2009

TheOptimist

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Quote from: Estimator on June 20, 2017, 11:21:47 AM
Just had a look at the Derry team from that fixture in 2007.

Derry: B Gillis, M McGoldrick, K McCloy, G O'Kane, L Hinphey, SM Lockhart, F McEldowney, F Doherty, J Conway (0-1), B McGoldrick (0-1), P Murphy, E Muldoon (1-1), C Devlin (1-1), P Bradley (0-5, 2 frees), C Gilligan (0-3, 2 frees).
Subs: M Lynch for McGoldrick (29 mins), R Wilkinson (0-1) for Murphy (56), Patsy Bradley for Conway (60), P O'Hea for Hinphey (67), G Donaghy for Gilligan (70)

and then compared it to the team that beat Waterford on Saturday

Derry: B McKinless, N Keenan 0-1, B Rogers, K McKaigue, C McFaul 0-2, C McWilliams, D Heavron 1-1, C McAtamney, C McKaigue 0-1, R Bell 0-2, N O'Loughlin 0-2(1f), M McEvoy, D Tallon 0-3, J Kielt 0-3(2fs), B Heron.
Subs: E McGuckin 0-1 for O'Loughlin (ht), M Lynch 0-1 for Bell (45), S McGuigan for Kielt (48), N Forrester for McFaul (55), C Nevin for McAtamney (60), G O'Neill for Heron (64), C Nevin for McAtamney (68)

4 All Stars in the 2007, 0 in the 2017 team.
Mayo are 1/5 with the bookies, and Derry 4/1.
If Mayo have any design on playing football in August and September, they should win this one pulling up.

I remember that game well. We had a good year that year. Collie Devlin, P Bradley, Gilligan, Muldoon and Murphy made a formidable forward line. I recall Brolly getting in hot water for how he described McGoldrick's man marking job of Conor Mortimer and I remember Lynch doing a good job on Trevor when he came on.  Muldoon scored a beautiful lobbed goal and O'Hea set up Devlin with a long ball for his goal late on I think.

That was the same year we stood in the rain in Casement Park through a hurling game only for the football to be called of, and the year of the "Clones 500" against Armagh. The wheels came of at half time against Dublin in Croke Park. Eoin Bradley (having rejoined the panel) came  on for an injured Murphy at half time and missed a few goal chances and had a few poor long range efforts and we were denied a penalty when Devlin was emptied of the ball.

There hasn't been a year like that since!

Minors got to the final that year also.

rosnarun

Quote from: Ballaghman on June 20, 2017, 10:09:50 AM
Quote from: TheImpactCode on June 20, 2017, 09:02:56 AM
Is it not the county board and backroom teams concern to smooth out logistics.  it's the managers job to focus on the game.

Mayo still had the winning of the game against Galway but Rochford doesn't seem to have found a settled 15 - with O'Shea in and out of the team.
The O'Shea bit can't be helped for the moment anyway. Apparently he's struggling with a groin injury. We need him to get that sorted if we're to have any hope this summer. If that means resting him then that's what should be done.

does anyone really believe that . Ive no Idea whats really going on but its one thing to be able to play 20 minute with a groin injury one day but to be in the same position 3 weeks later means one of 2 things a. a more serious   injury or a smoke screen
If you make yourself understood, you're always speaking well. Moliere