What is the exact new ruling on eligibility of 16/17 year olds in the minor age group for playing for their club senior/reserve teams?
I think in simple terms no one can play adult football until their 17th birthday unless they are in the County minor panel where they can't play until they are out of the Championship.
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on December 21, 2015, 07:49:18 PM
I think in simple terms no one can play adult football until their 17th birthday unless they are in the County minor panel where they can't play until they are out of the Championship.
That not right I don't think (though I hope it is right!). To play senior next year for example, you will have had to turn 17 this calendar year ie before 31 Dec. A player who turns 17 anytime in the new year will not be eligible for the 2016 season. I think.
Quote from: JoG2 on December 21, 2015, 08:12:27 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on December 21, 2015, 07:49:18 PM
I think in simple terms no one can play adult football until their 17th birthday unless they are in the County minor panel where they can't play until they are out of the Championship.
That not right I don't think (though I hope it is right!). To play senior next year for example, you will have had to turn 17 this calendar year ie before 31 Dec. A player who turns 17 anytime in the new year will not be eligible for the 2016 season. I think.
Not 100 per cent but it's motion 50 here.
http://www.gaa.ie/content/documents/GAA007_GAA_motions_web.pdf
Good man norf. So a player who turns 17 at any stage of the season is good to go?
No..
You have to be in your last year minor. I.e be
17 before 31/12 of the previous year.
Quote from: AZOffaly on December 21, 2015, 09:50:30 PM
No..
You have to be in your last year minor. I.e be
17 before 31/12 of the previous year.
Emm, that's what I thought. Thanks
Does anyone have a download of the complete rules Inc the changes @ Congress '15?
Couldn't see it anywhere on here but as far as I understand Callum Brown was ineligible to play for Derry last night.
So under the new rules you can be too old to play inter-county minor but not old enough to play inter-county senior.
Very strange scenario.
Have to be 17 by the 31st of December 2017, in other words have to turn 18 in this year.
I know, from a rural club with 3 or 4 talented lads who turn 17 this year.
Similar situation last year.
Quote from: cornerback on January 04, 2018, 10:26:24 AM
Couldn’t see it anywhere on here but as far as I understand Callum Brown was ineligible to play for Derry last night.
So under the new rules you can be too old to play inter-county minor but not old enough to play inter-county senior.
Very strange scenario.
Is it definitely that he was ineligible? If he's not young enough to be on the county U17 team surely he's already turned at least 17 before January 1st this year and will therefore turn 18 before the end of 2018. Or am I missing something?
Need to be no older than 16 on the 31st December 2017 for U17
Quote from: oakleaflad on January 04, 2018, 11:55:31 AM
Quote from: cornerback on January 04, 2018, 10:26:24 AM
Couldn’t see it anywhere on here but as far as I understand Callum Brown was ineligible to play for Derry last night.
So under the new rules you can be too old to play inter-county minor but not old enough to play inter-county senior.
Very strange scenario.
Is it definitely that he was ineligible? If he's not young enough to be on the county U17 team surely he's already turned at least 17 before January 1st this year and will therefore turn 18 before the end of 2018. Or am I missing something?
He has to be 18 to play Senior Inter County football!
https://twitter.com/CahairOKane1/status/948695450059706368
Quote from: screenexile on January 04, 2018, 12:13:20 PM
Quote from: oakleaflad on January 04, 2018, 11:55:31 AM
Quote from: cornerback on January 04, 2018, 10:26:24 AM
Couldn't see it anywhere on here but as far as I understand Callum Brown was ineligible to play for Derry last night.
So under the new rules you can be too old to play inter-county minor but not old enough to play inter-county senior.
Very strange scenario.
Is it definitely that he was ineligible? If he's not young enough to be on the county U17 team surely he's already turned at least 17 before January 1st this year and will therefore turn 18 before the end of 2018. Or am I missing something?
He has to be 18 to play Senior Inter County football!
https://twitter.com/CahairOKane1/status/948695450059706368
A 17 year old has no business playing senior club let alone senior county. I don't care if they're the next Gooch or the next fúcking Michael Jordan.
Also why is a lad who was only a sub at minor a few months ago suddenly in demand at senior IC? Was he poorly managed (by the same manager!)?
Antrim senior hurlers played 3 x 17 year olds (will be 18 this year) the other night albeit it was against a University team. Guys not even ready for senior club and yet the County team is playing them? I don't know how these things are meant to work now :o
Quote from: screenexile on January 04, 2018, 12:13:20 PM
Quote from: oakleaflad on January 04, 2018, 11:55:31 AM
Quote from: cornerback on January 04, 2018, 10:26:24 AM
Couldn't see it anywhere on here but as far as I understand Callum Brown was ineligible to play for Derry last night.
So under the new rules you can be too old to play inter-county minor but not old enough to play inter-county senior.
Very strange scenario.
Is it definitely that he was ineligible? If he's not young enough to be on the county U17 team surely he's already turned at least 17 before January 1st this year and will therefore turn 18 before the end of 2018. Or am I missing something?
He has to be 18 to play Senior Inter County football!
https://twitter.com/CahairOKane1/status/948695450059706368
Cheers, clears that up. So that means he (and potentially many others) are too old for U17 yet too young to play county U20? Seems a bit bizzare.
So those players get a year aff.
Rule underage rule possibly not thought through?
I'm going to guess that it's a deliberate policy to limit the potential for schoolboys being called up for senior county teams, as when that happens it only adds to the problem that regrading was meant to solve.
Did Antrim break the rules then do you reckon wobbler?
I very much doubt U18s are ineligible to play U20 and it would seem Senior
Treoraí Oifigiúil Cuid I
Rule 6.17 Age Grades
Effective from January 1st 2018, the above Section shall read:
Adult: - Club Be Over 17 years - Inter-County Be Over 18 years
Under 21: - Club Be Under 21 years and Over 16 years - Inter-County Hurling Be Under 21 years and Over 18 years
Under 20: - Inter-County Football Be Under 20 years and Over 18 years Minor
(Under 18): - Club Be Under 18 and Over 14 years Minor
(Under 17): - Inter-County Be Under 17 and Over 15 years
Under 16: Be Under 16 years and Over 12 years
Under 14: Be Under 14 years and Over 10 years
Under 12: Be Under 12 years and Over 9 years
To be "Under" an age shall mean that the player shall celebrate the Upper Limit birthday (e.g. 21st. for Under 21 Grade) on the 1st. January of the Championship Year or on a later date. To be "Over" an age shall mean that the player shall have celebrated the Lower Limit birthday (e.g. 17th. to participate in Adult Grades (Club)) prior to the 1st. January of the Championship Year. Adult shall include Senior, Intermediate and Junior Grades.
Girls may participate only up to and including the Under 12 Grade.
Note: In the interests of the avoidance of any doubt regarding Age Grade eligibility, Championship Year shall mean the Calendar Year in which the Competition is commenced. In the event that the Competition is completed in a subsequent Calendar Year, such circumstances shall not be construed so as to allow a player who was ineligible, by reason of age, at the date of the commencement of the Competition to play in the Competition at any time up to and including the date of its conclusion.
Quote from: mrhardyannual on January 05, 2018, 10:13:10 PM
Treoraí Oifigiúil Cuid I
Rule 6.17 Age Grades
Effective from January 1st 2018, the above Section shall read:
Adult: - Club Be Over 17 years - Inter-County Be Over 18 years
Under 21: - Club Be Under 21 years and Over 16 years - Inter-County Hurling Be Under 21 years and Over 18 years
Under 20: - Inter-County Football Be Under 20 years and Over 18 years Minor
(Under 18): - Club Be Under 18 and Over 14 years Minor
(Under 17): - Inter-County Be Under 17 and Over 15 years
Under 16: Be Under 16 years and Over 12 years
Under 14: Be Under 14 years and Over 10 years
Under 12: Be Under 12 years and Over 9 years
To be "Under" an age shall mean that the player shall celebrate the Upper Limit birthday (e.g. 21st. for Under 21 Grade) on the 1st. January of the Championship Year or on a later date. To be "Over" an age shall mean that the player shall have celebrated the Lower Limit birthday (e.g. 17th. to participate in Adult Grades (Club)) prior to the 1st. January of the Championship Year. Adult shall include Senior, Intermediate and Junior Grades.
Girls may participate only up to and including the Under 12 Grade.
Note: In the interests of the avoidance of any doubt regarding Age Grade eligibility, Championship Year shall mean the Calendar Year in which the Competition is commenced. In the event that the Competition is completed in a subsequent Calendar Year, such circumstances shall not be construed so as to allow a player who was ineligible, by reason of age, at the date of the commencement of the Competition to play in the Competition at any time up to and including the date of its conclusion.
Jesus,
some balls up there. No intercounty football for an 18 year old. You can't play intercounty U20 but can play adult club.
Doesn't make sense.
Should be fit to play u20
Can someone explain the rule for the U20's then? In our own county we have the second coming of God (Peter's son Darragh), but I'm led to believe he cant play for the U20's because he's still a minor at club level? Does this mean he can't play at all for the u20s or is it just up untill his club minor season is finished?
if a county has no U18 competition then the 18 year old can play U20
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on January 11, 2018, 07:13:16 PM
if a county has no U18 competition then the 18 year old can play U20
Where does it say that in the rules?
Quote from: Therealdonald on January 11, 2018, 07:05:10 PM
Can someone explain the rule for the U20's then? In our own county we have the second coming of God (Peter's son Darragh), but I'm led to believe he cant play for the U20's because he's still a minor at club level? Does this mean he can't play at all for the u20s or is it just up untill his club minor season is finished?
Maybe a year playing just club and schools football would do him not harm.
The purpose of the change was to reduce burn-out in that age group.