Is this the next of it ?

[orangeman]

Why do we continually have to ape other sports ?


GAA on collision course with managers over proposal to announce teams early

Martin Breheny– 21 March 2013

GAA managers could be headed for a showdown with Croke Park over a proposal that all championship teams be named a minimum of four days before the game.

Central Council are backing the plan from the Rules Advisory Committee (RAC), which will be discussed at Congress in Derry on Saturday. If passed, managers will be forced to announce teams on a Tuesday or Wednesday depending on whether the game is on Saturday or Sunday. Failure to do so would carry a €500 fine per offence for county boards.

"We felt that earlier announcements would help to increase the amount of publicity that's available in the media for news on teams, comment and analysis of selections, etc," said RAC chairman, Frank Murphy.

There has been a growing trend towards announcing championship teams late in the week over recent seasons.

Some counties don't issue teams for Sunday games until Friday night, while there have been several instances – especially for All-Ireland qualifier games – of teams not being announced until just before throw-in.

Under current rules, there is no requirement on counties to announce teams at any stage before games, except for All-Ireland semi-finals and finals when they must be submitted to Croke Park no later than the previous Tuesday. However, that's for match-programme purposes only and it's often much later in the week when the teams are publicly announced.

Now, the RAC are trying to regularise earlier announcements for all championship games. "The object is to give the media the teams as early as possible to allow comment and analysis, which helps promote our games and generate publicity," said Murphy.

The fact that RAC and Central Council are submitting the motion will put pressure on counties to support the move, but, even if passed, it remains to be seen how team managers react.

The stipulation that a team must be announced four days before games could lead to dummy selections being released, creating public scepticism and media anger. That, in turn, would switch the focus back on county boards and their responsibility to uphold a rule which has the promotion of the GAA as its sole objective.

[seafoid]

Thankfully Ger Loughnane is no longer managing Clare.

[nrico2006]

Why is it any business of anyone but a particular teams manager what team he is naming? 

[NaomhBridAbú]

Why is it any business of anyone but a particular teams manager what team he is naming?

media and joe public have a bit of an interest

[LeoMc]

FFS. We all know how that will work.

Dummy teams will be submitted, teams will be fined. It will go the DRA and team doctors will testify the 8 changes to the Fermanagh team were forced by injuries at Thursday night training.

The next Working group will then suggest that all "late fitness tests" will have to be performed by an independent panel of medical experts.

This will lead to accusations that Dr X has a Cousin on the Armagh panel or Dr Y's County are playing Dublin in the next round and a further round with the DRA.

The next Working group will then suggest that late changes to the team will count against substitutions. Then there will be a row over the number of blood subs used by Cork and Tyrone will be accused of using fake blood packs to introduce a new player. These will also end up with the DRA.

The next working group will introduce compulsary independent waterboys, Doctors and Physios. And on it will go.

Meanwhile back in the real world someone will suggest Squad numbers and this will be ruled out as it goes against Sub-section 14, Paragraph 2 and the amendment to congress was missing a fada.

[Hardy]

FFS. We all know how that will work.

Dummy teams will be submitted, teams will be fined. It will go the DRA and team doctors will testify the 8 changes to the Fermanagh team were forced by injuries at Thursday night training.

The next Working group will then suggest that all "late fitness tests" will have to be performed by an independent panel of medical experts.

This will lead to accusations that Dr X has a Cousin on the Armagh panel or Dr Y's County are playing Dublin in the next round and a further round with the DRA.

The next Working group will then suggest that late changes to the team will count against substitutions. Then there will be a row over the number of blood subs used by Cork and Tyrone will be accused of using fake blood packs to introduce a new player. These will also end up with the DRA.

The next working group will introduce compulsary independent waterboys, Doctors and Physios. And on it will go.

Meanwhile back in the real world someone will suggest Squad numbers and this will be ruled out as it goes against Sub-section 14, Paragraph 2 and the amendment to congress was missing a fada.

Good stuff, Leo - that's about right.

If you have a Rules Advisory Committtee, they're going to have to advise on the rules once in a while, to justify their existence. It's simply a very good illustration of the make up of committees like these that this is the sort of shite they exercise their incisive analytical skills on, when there are real problems to be sorted out.

[Eamonnca1]

God forbid that we should actually promote the sport like an organization that knows what it's doing. Publicity? Who needs it?

Why do we continually have to ape other sports ?

If it wasn't for "aping other sports" the GAA wouldn't exist.

[muppet]

Why is it any business of anyone but a particular teams manager what team he is naming?

We should scrap programmes altogether. If supporters aren't loyal enough to recognise their players then they should be thrown out of the ground. It is a bloody disgrace! What is Joe Duffy's number? Scrap that, is he on Skype?

[Jinxy]

They'll have us all wearing dresses before long.

[orangeman]

They'll have us all wearing dresses before long.

Pin stripe suits for managers.

[rrhf]

I would love to be the first GAA manager to parade the sideline in a suit LOL.

[thewobbler]

I agree with the idea.

There's so much pretend tactics in Gaelic Games with regards to team selections, I'd welcome this nonsense was taken away. Managers might concentrate on conditioning and coaching instead of pretending that their star forward who has been training for a month, is still injured.

[neilthemac]

could we get rid of the farce of the Championship draws being done in October/November??
And then counties doing all sorts of shadow boxing during the league and pre season tournaments.

Imagine the excitement after the league groups stages, if the Championship draw was done then?

Counties could make a real effort in the league, not knowing who they would face in the championship.
Would make more sense to me. And would at least give a bit of hope to the weaker counties instead of knowing all winter that they were in for a beating come championship time.
If those weaker counties got a decent league run together then they might have a chance, depending on who they were drawn against.

[Syferus]

Having the draw after the league would have no effect on the level of effort. If two teams that will play each other meet they might try things but a win is the main aim and far more important on the day. A later draw certainly wouldn't engender any greater level of excitement but it wouldn't hurt either.

[mayogodhelpus@gmail.com]

Play the league, teams get seeded for the open Championship draw. This is followed by a traditional Provincial Championship, Provincial Champions and runners-up get additional points to their seeding, yes this will probably give Mayo, Galway, Cork, Kerry and Roscommon a very slight bump on average, but it will be less than may exist now.