Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)

Started by Mentalman, September 04, 2007, 11:39:59 AM

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T Fearon

I was intrigued to learn that both the IFA and FAI were in talks about reunification in the late 70s at the height of the troubles.

Sure Windsor Park could do with a change of anthem and some acknowledgement of the different communities instead of the old Unionist mantra that as N I is part of the U.K. why not fly the UK flag etc.

But the Irish team that plays at the Aviva and match days there is not big on acknowledging other cultures on the island either.

BennyCake

Quote from: T Fearon on October 16, 2015, 09:37:48 PM
I was intrigued to learn that both the IFA and FAI were in talks about reunification in the late 70s at the height of the troubles.

Sure Windsor Park could do with a change of anthem and some acknowledgement of the different communities instead of the old Unionist mantra that as N I is part of the U.K. why not fly the UK flag etc.

But the Irish team that plays at the Aviva and match days there is not big on acknowledging other cultures on the island either.

If they changed the anthem, you could see fans bringing in a big Ghetto Blaster with a cassette tape of GSTQ, a la Ian Og at Queens University years ago.

armaghniac

Quote from: T Fearon on October 16, 2015, 09:37:48 PM
But the Irish team that plays at the Aviva and match days there is not big on acknowledging other cultures on the island either.

What had you in mind, sing Polish songs, Nigerian dances?
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

BennyCake

Quote from: armaghniac on October 16, 2015, 09:52:05 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on October 16, 2015, 09:37:48 PM
But the Irish team that plays at the Aviva and match days there is not big on acknowledging other cultures on the island either.

What had you in mind, sing Polish songs, Nigerian dances?

A few Rastafarian hats should do it!

T Fearon

Neither Irish team is culturally welcoming to the other major community on this island,and that is a fact.It is time to depoliticise sport by removing all national flags and anthems

armaghniac

Quote from: T Fearon on October 16, 2015, 11:10:02 PM
Neither Irish team is culturally welcoming to the other major community on this island,and that is a fact.It is time to depoliticise sport by removing all national flags and anthems

Once again a spurious equality is proposed. If you equate things that are not equal you can propose any nonsense.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

T Fearon

On the contrary instead of having two international football teams on this island representing two different sections of the community and neither capable of attracting cross community support I wish we had only one team representing all communities.

BennyCake

Quote from: T Fearon on October 17, 2015, 04:01:52 PM
On the contrary instead of having two international football teams on this island representing two different sections of the community and neither capable of attracting cross community support I wish we had only one team representing all communities.

In an ideal world...

I can't see it ever happening.

Unionists are constantly told that a United Ireland is coming and they don't want any involvement or association with the Catholic community/the South, be that politically, economically, culturally, educationally, environmentally etc. They are insecure about who and what they are and have drawn a curtain around themselves from the rest of the people of this island. Unionist areas are also insecure and inhospitable towards foreign nationals. They seem to be happy in their "our wee country" scenario, and are glad there is no catholic support for it, nor do they want any catholic involvement.

T Fearon

That is utterly wrong.Unionists support an All Ireland Rugby team,there are Irish classes in East Belfast and the NI football team manager is Catholic.

Milltown Row2

Most foreign nationals live in prod areas, why is that?? To think there isn't racists on the nationalists side think again.... N.Ireland supporters back in the day have been complete bigots, but it has seriously improved... Whether that's good enough to gather support from the Falls road is debateable...

If we continue to drive division then we'll  always be divided
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BennyCake

Quote from: T Fearon on October 17, 2015, 05:57:26 PM
That is utterly wrong.Unionists support an All Ireland Rugby team,there are Irish classes in East Belfast and the NI football team manager is Catholic.

A different kind of unionist supports the rugby team.

muppet

Can Martin McGuinness do a Mandela and wear the NI soccer jersey next summer?
MWWSI 2017

armaghniac

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 17, 2015, 06:06:36 PM
Most foreign nationals live in prod areas, why is that??

You know very well why that is. The population of Protestant areas has declined, while that of Catholic ones has increased. As the Catholics dare not move to the Protestant areas, the result is Protestant areas with empty property and low rants, which Nationalist districts are full to the brim. The misforuntate foreigners come here and go for rents they cannot afford, without fully appreciating the nature of the districts they are moving into.

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To think there isn't racists on the nationalists side think again....

No doubt there are,every group of people has a bollix, there may even be some in Gaaboard. . But nationalism is not based on ethnic supremacist policies, the racism is an act of individuals not a collective value of the entire group.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

muppet

Quote from: armaghniac on October 17, 2015, 06:55:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 17, 2015, 06:06:36 PM
Most foreign nationals live in prod areas, why is that??

You know very well why that is. The population of Protestant areas has declined, while that of Catholic ones has increased. As the Catholics dare not move to the Protestant areas, the result is Protestant areas with empty property and low rants, which Nationalist districts are full to the brim. The misforuntate foreigners come here and go for rents they cannot afford, without fully appreciating the nature of the districts they are moving into.

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To think there isn't racists on the nationalists side think again....

No doubt there are,every group of people has a bollix, there may even be some in Gaaboard. . But nationalism is not based on ethnic supremacist policies, the racism is an act of individuals not a collective value of the entire group.

Agreed!
MWWSI 2017

armaghniac

Quote from: muppet on October 17, 2015, 06:58:54 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on October 17, 2015, 06:55:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 17, 2015, 06:06:36 PM
Most foreign nationals live in prod areas, why is that??

You know very well why that is. The population of Protestant areas has declined, while that of Catholic ones has increased. As the Catholics dare not move to the Protestant areas, the result is Protestant areas with empty property and low rants, which Nationalist districts are full to the brim. The misforuntate foreigners come here and go for rents they cannot afford, without fully appreciating the nature of the districts they are moving into.

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To think there isn't racists on the nationalists side think again....

No doubt there are,every group of people has a bollix, there may even be some in Gaaboard. . But nationalism is not based on ethnic supremacist policies, the racism is an act of individuals not a collective value of the entire group.

Agreed!

Muppet agrees with me. An auspicious day, surely;  even if it is caused by a vernacular spelling.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B