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Title: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: T Fearon on December 12, 2007, 09:47:25 PM
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Looks like the green side of Glasgow will be raking in the cash on their own this season again. ;D
Title: Re: The Official Huns thread
Post by: tyrone exile on December 12, 2007, 09:48:42 PM
 ;D ;D ;D Quality, just as sweet as qualifying last week
Title: Re: The Official Huns thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on December 12, 2007, 09:53:56 PM
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Title: Re: The Official Huns thread
Post by: T Fearon on December 12, 2007, 09:55:25 PM
It has been a great couple of weeks, what with Celtic and Spurs progressing and the six county unionit side losing in Spain, and the huns getting shat upon tonight ;D

All my Christmases have come early ;D
Title: Re: The Official Huns thread
Post by: Chrisowc on December 12, 2007, 09:59:49 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on December 12, 2007, 09:55:25 PM
It has been a great couple of weeks, what with Celtic and Spurs progressing and the six county unionit side losing in Spain, and the huns getting shat upon tonight ;D

All my Christmases have come early ;D

Story of your life.
Title: Re: The Official Huns thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on December 12, 2007, 10:03:36 PM
plenty of dinners then Tone?
Title: Re: The Official Huns thread
Post by: cville on December 12, 2007, 10:10:01 PM
Tony - let's not bring this down to the lowest common denomenator. OK Rangers went out but it should have been a great night for Scottish football. Celtic seem to have the spirit that was lacking tonight from the Gers, but I feel that they can go far in the UEFA cup. Also, I as a football fan get no joy in seeing gloating over Ranger's defeat as it only shows up a sadder aspect of the Celtic v Rangers rivalry. Just admit it Tony... you are a sad individual. However, slap it up the Hun Bastards!!!!  Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
Title: Re: The Official Huns thread
Post by: SeanSouth on December 12, 2007, 10:15:22 PM
Lads i wouldnt be one for putting a dampener but if there was a similar thread (ie "Official Taig Thread") on OWC this place would be full of the usual self righteous hand wringing and asking Sammy G or Evil Genius for the spleen of the next newborn on the Cregagh Road before dawn.........You cant have it both ways.
Title: Re: The Official Huns thread
Post by: ziggysego on December 12, 2007, 10:16:20 PM
Quote from: Chrisowc on December 12, 2007, 09:59:49 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on December 12, 2007, 09:55:25 PM
It has been a great couple of weeks, what with Celtic and Spurs progressing and the six county unionit side losing in Spain, and the huns getting shat upon tonight ;D

All my Christmases have come early ;D

Story of your life.

:D
Title: Re: The Official Huns thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on December 12, 2007, 10:18:03 PM
Quote from: SeanSouth on December 12, 2007, 10:15:22 PM
Lads i wouldnt be one for putting a dampener but if there was a similar thread (ie "Official Taig Thread") on OWC this place would be full of the usual self righteous hand wringing and asking Sammy G or Evil Genius for the spleen of the next newborn on the Cregagh Road before dawn.........You cant have it both ways.

Would have to agree
Title: Re: The Official Huns thread
Post by: ziggysego on December 12, 2007, 10:19:25 PM
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on December 12, 2007, 10:18:03 PM
Quote from: SeanSouth on December 12, 2007, 10:15:22 PM
Lads i wouldnt be one for putting a dampener but if there was a similar thread (ie "Official Taig Thread") on OWC this place would be full of the usual self righteous hand wringing and asking Sammy G or Evil Genius for the spleen of the next newborn on the Cregagh Road before dawn.........You cant have it both ways.

Would have to agree

As would I.
Title: Re: The Official Huns thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on December 12, 2007, 10:28:19 PM
Quote from: ziggysego on December 12, 2007, 10:19:25 PM
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on December 12, 2007, 10:18:03 PM
Quote from: SeanSouth on December 12, 2007, 10:15:22 PM
Lads i wouldnt be one for putting a dampener but if there was a similar thread (ie "Official Taig Thread") on OWC this place would be full of the usual self righteous hand wringing and asking Sammy G or Evil Genius for the spleen of the next newborn on the Cregagh Road before dawn.........You cant have it both ways.

Would have to agree

As would I.

Do the three of you find the use of the term Huns to describe Rangers' supporters and / or the club in general offensive? Unless it is preceeded by something like dirty or followed by something like bastards or c*nts, then I don't think it is necessarily offensive. I will, of course quite happily defer to anyone who does find it offensive and not use such a term, unless I am on a tedious wind-up.

Can't say that a corresponding Taigs (unlikely) / Fenians (unlikely) / Tims (most likely) thread on owc would annoy me in any way.

But then again we have to look at who started the thread.
Title: Re: The Official Huns thread
Post by: ziggysego on December 12, 2007, 10:33:19 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on December 12, 2007, 10:28:19 PM
Do the three of you find the use of the term Huns to describe Rangers' supporters and / or the club in general offensive? Unless it is preceeded by something like dirty or followed by something like bastards or c*nts, then I don't think it is necessarily offensive. I will, of course quite happily defer to anyone who does find it offensive and not use such a term, unless I am on a tedious wind-up.

Can't say that a corresponding Taigs (unlikely) / Fenians (unlikely) / Tims (most likely) thread on owc would annoy me in any way.

But then again we have to look at who started the thread.

I would safely say the thread was named this to be offensive and that is what I find wrong.
Title: Re: The Official Huns thread
Post by: gawa316 on December 12, 2007, 10:33:49 PM
That young fella up front for Lyon looks to be a class act. Hope the salford bucs now draw lyon, a much harder prospect than Rangers
Title: Re: The Official Huns thread
Post by: Puckoon on December 12, 2007, 10:37:15 PM
Rangers were completely unlucky not to get something from this game. They almost equalized (hit the bar) just a few seconds before lyon grabbed their second.
Im definitely not in favour of this type of commentary about them however, we are dragging our board down to a level that we assume exists over on OWC with this type of nonsense.
Title: Re: The Official Huns thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on December 12, 2007, 10:38:09 PM
Personally for pure footballing reasons i would have liked to see Rangers go thru..I don't care about religion,politics when it comes to soccer and i think it have been great to see Rangers meet Chelsea or Man United or possibly even Celtic in the round after
Title: Re: The Official Huns thread
Post by: ONeill on December 12, 2007, 11:22:55 PM
Because of this thread, it is now 100% cast-iron certain that the Huns and the Yids will be paired together at some stage. Rangers will win 3-2 on agg after Spuds won the first 2-0.
Title: Re: The Official Huns thread
Post by: Gnevin on December 12, 2007, 11:56:02 PM
What is it about this scotish team what people find so great? Why don't you go support Rovers , both play in hoops, both have a section of bigoted support , both have f**k all chance of winning the champions league and both play in jokes national leagues
Title: Re: The Official Huns thread
Post by: ziggysego on December 13, 2007, 12:47:30 AM
Rangers don't play in hoops Gnevin
Title: Re: The Official Huns thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 13, 2007, 01:23:46 AM
Fearon a question for you here - did you take more pleasure out of celtic getting through or rangers not getting through?

You do continually line yourselves up for a fall though and as someone has pointed to before nothing would be funnier than Rangers putting Spurs out after this thread and it would be the fall you deserve!
Title: Re: The Official Huns thread
Post by: Fishbat on December 13, 2007, 01:31:26 AM
More "offensive" stuff eh?

some skunk dropping one in a packed bar could be classed more "offensive'










Jehovah, jehovah, jehovah
Title: Re: The Official Huns thread
Post by: Fishbat on December 13, 2007, 02:02:21 AM
Quote from: hardstation on December 13, 2007, 01:36:06 AM
Quote from: Fishbat on December 13, 2007, 01:31:26 AM
Jehovah, jehovah, jehovah

*Woman's voice* "He said it again, he said it again"
*Women putting on a man's voice* "He said it again, he said it again".

"you're only making it worse for yourself!"  "Worse??? how can it be worse??"
Title: Re: The Official Huns thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on December 13, 2007, 08:45:22 AM
Quote from: hardstation on December 12, 2007, 10:31:34 PM
Quote from: cville on December 12, 2007, 10:10:01 PM
However, slap it up the Hun Bastards!!!! 
What about this, Sam?

My post should be self-explanatory, but to clarify for those who need clarification.  This is a perfect example of what I was trying to say.  Deliberately offensive and totally without justification.  You should be ashamed of yourself, cville. Had you left it at Huns, you might have got the benefit of the doubt.
Title: Re: The Official Huns thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on December 13, 2007, 09:24:43 AM
Quote from: tram on December 13, 2007, 01:03:52 AM
I think there's little doubt that the word "Huns" is being used as a derogatory term here. And if I was a Glasgow Celtic fan I wouldn't be shouting too much considering that they had to rely on others to get through to the knockout stages.


I'm a hoops fan and fail to see why the fcuk you need to bring us into this thread, TF is a Spurs fan not a Celtic fan, so keep your sad little digs about Celtic to the relevent threads (Official Glasgow Celtic Thread).
Title: Re: The Official Huns thread
Post by: clarshack on December 13, 2007, 09:30:07 AM
Quote from: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on December 13, 2007, 09:24:43 AM
Quote from: tram on December 13, 2007, 01:03:52 AM
I think there's little doubt that the word "Huns" is being used as a derogatory term here. And if I was a Glasgow Celtic fan I wouldn't be shouting too much considering that they had to rely on others to get through to the knockout stages.


I'm a hoops fan and fail to see why the fcuk you need to bring us into this thread, TF is a Spurs fan not a Celtic fan, so keep your sad little digs about Celtic to the relevent threads (Official Glasgow Celtic Thread).

totally agree Gaoth Dobhair!
Title: Re: The Official Huns thread
Post by: full back on December 13, 2007, 09:31:57 AM
Gaoth Dobhair, how many non-fans travel to an AGM?
TBH, I think some of the posters were only trying to look at a similar type scenario if there was a thread about Celtic
Title: Re: The Official Huns thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on December 13, 2007, 09:39:09 AM
Quote from: full back on December 13, 2007, 09:31:57 AM
Gaoth Dobhair, how many non-fans travel to an AGM?
TBH, I think some of the posters were only trying to look at a similar type scenario if there was a thread about Celtic


Sorry fullback, but that is absolute bollocks, TF is a Spurs fan and if he supports Celtic then he does so because of the Catholic prod thing and not because he follows the team! As for looking at similar type scenario NO, this was a thread to slag of Rangers, but some people just can't help themselves having a go at Celtic!  >:(
Title: Re: The Official Huns thread
Post by: full back on December 13, 2007, 09:41:05 AM
Tony Fearon is the ultimate WUM
Not only is he winding up the huns but now he is winding up the taigs, & all from one post :D
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Gaaboardmod3 on December 13, 2007, 11:30:44 AM
Sorry lads. Couldn't resist. :D It is Christmas after all....
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: ziggysego on December 13, 2007, 11:31:42 AM
The OWCers will get a shock when they come in and think Tony started this  :D
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on December 13, 2007, 11:32:15 AM
Quote from: Gaaboardmod3 on December 13, 2007, 11:30:44 AM
Sorry lads. Couldn't resist. :D It is Christmas after all....


Jezuz there's an evilness in there somewhere!  ;)
Title: Re: The Official Huns thread
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on December 13, 2007, 11:37:27 AM
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on December 12, 2007, 10:38:09 PMPersonally for pure footballing reasons i would have liked to see Rangers go thru..I don't care about religion,politics when it comes to soccer and i think it have been great to see Rangers meet Chelsea or Man United or possibly even Celtic in the round after

Do u care about a club singing about being up to their knees in Fenian blood???

QuoteWhat is it about this scotish team what people find so great? Why don't you go support Rovers , both play in hoops, both have a section of bigoted support , both have f**k all chance of winning the champions league and both play in jokes national leagues

Care to explain that one regarding Celtic???

p.s. Nice title change mod  :D
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: T Fearon on December 13, 2007, 11:51:12 AM
Gaoth Dobhair. Have been a Celtic fan since the late 60s. Member of the Huddle club and shareholder and have spent shit loads this year on the Lisbon Lions memorabilia. In short I have been a fan and have been travelling longer than you I'd estimate (did you ever stand in the Jungle?)

GAABoardmod, nothing could annoy me this morning. I have hun friends and am even matey with one or two ex huns players, including a member of the victorious Huns ECWC side of 72 ;D
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on December 13, 2007, 11:56:50 AM
Ah but Tone, ur on record here as saying you'd be supporting de Spuds in a hypothetical them vs Celtic UEFA/CL match, that makes u a Spuds supporter with a passing interest in the Celts!!!
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: T Fearon on December 13, 2007, 12:05:18 PM
On the contrary a competitive meeting between Spurs and Celtic would cause a huge problem for me. In reality I would probably offer my support on the following basis.

Spurs, if it was Champions League tie, as Celtic have already won it

Celtic, if it was UEFA Cup tie, as Spurs have already won it twice.

Hope it never happens.

All's I know is that with this year being the 125th anniversary of Spurs and the 40th anniversary of the Lisbon Lions I reckon I have spent between £1000 to £1500 quid on the celebrations, memoribilia etc and have attended both club's AGMs in my capacity as a shareholder. What more do I need to do to prove my commitment to both?
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on December 13, 2007, 12:09:02 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on December 13, 2007, 11:51:12 AM
Gaoth Dobhair. Have been a Celtic fan since the late 60s. Member of the Huddle club and shareholder and have spent shit loads this year on the Lisbon Lions memorabilia. In short I have been a fan and have been travelling longer than you I'd estimate (did you ever stand in the Jungle?)

GAABoardmod, nothing could annoy me this morning. I have hun friends and am even matey with one or two ex huns players, including a member of the victorious Huns ECWC side of 72 ;D


Yes Tony I've stood in the Jungle, I'm a member of the Huddle and also a shareholder, though not as old as you, I have been going to Paradise for nearly 20 years, my Grandfather, uncles, cousins have been going to Parkhead for the last 70 odd years, I'm related to an ex-Celt and know Packie Bonner and Shay Given, I've personally met and tallked to the Lisbon Lions and dozens of Celtic players over the years, the Priest who married me last year is close friends with Martin O'Neill, my wife supports the Hoops - Is that enough for you?  ::)

Back to my point re your support of the Hoops, you are a Spurs fan as you make blatantly clear on this board, you obviously follow Celtic, but your a Spurs FAN, I don't take with people saying that they are fans with EPL teams, then say that they also support Celtic, you are a fan of one team and take an interest in another!
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: T Fearon on December 13, 2007, 12:20:12 PM
Cobblers. I have a passionate interest and am a fan of both teams, and am a Huddle member and One Hotspur member. There is no contradiction as they play in separate leagues.

I saw most of the Lions play and the likes of Kenny Dalglish, Danny Mc Grain wearing the Hoops.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on December 13, 2007, 12:26:08 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on December 13, 2007, 12:20:12 PM
Cobblers. I have a passionate interest and am a fan of both teams, and am a Huddle member and One Hotspur member. There is no contradiction as they play in separate leagues.

I saw most of the Lions play and the likes of Kenny Dalglish, Danny Mc Grain wearing the Hoops.


Tone, the question is who would you support if the teams came head to head - don't try and use your waffle scenario posted earlier, at the end of the day you are one or the other.
Hypothetical situation - Celtic enter the EPL, they play the Spuds who do you support?
Celtic played live on TV, Spurs on at the same time who do you watch?
You have tickets for a Spurs match and a Celtic match, same kick off time, which game do you go to?
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Billys Boots on December 13, 2007, 12:26:52 PM
QuoteJezuz there's an evilness in there somewhere!

That's for sure.  ;)
Title: Re: The Official Huns thread
Post by: Will Hunting on December 13, 2007, 12:41:43 PM
Quote from: tram on December 13, 2007, 01:03:52 AM
I think there's little doubt that the word "Huns" is being used as a derogatory term here. And if I was a Glasgow Celtic fan I wouldn't be shouting too much considering that they had to rely on others to get through to the knockout stages.

Celtic qualified because they totalled more points than Benfica and Donetsk. That's how a group stage works - teams take points off each other.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Rav67 on December 13, 2007, 01:04:47 PM
Well said Will Hunting - Celtic finished with 9 points again this year, just like last, but simply because they were already through after 5 games last year there was none of this 'needed someone else to do them a favour' shit.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: T Fearon on December 13, 2007, 01:19:04 PM
Gaoth Dobhair, hypothetical  questions cannot really be answered. fact is I am a fan of both clubs and put my money where my mouth is, just as I am a fan of more than one Rock Band, TV programme etc etc ;D
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Lamh Dhearg Alba on December 13, 2007, 01:38:21 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on December 13, 2007, 01:19:04 PM
Gaoth Dobhair, hypothetical  questions cannot really be answered. fact is I am a fan of both clubs and put my money where my mouth is, just as I am a fan of more than one Rock Band, TV programme etc etc ;D

That hardly does much for your argument about being a diehard....I doubt many fans would liken their support for their club to following rock bands or liking certain TV programmes :D.

Anyway back to the point of the thread; http://s231.photobucket.com/albums/ee180/concastnospam/?action=view&current=WedDec12at09_21_01PM.flv
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: corn02 on December 13, 2007, 01:46:25 PM
The reason I am glad they were beat is because Lyon out classed them. The last 16 is looking the strongest ever with only Bayern a notable absentee. I quite enjoyed Rangers campaign. The defending against Barca was a typical Scottish small teram repelling a European Giant, as I said enjoyable.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: T Fearon on December 13, 2007, 01:49:33 PM
The only big names missing are Ajax, Bayern Munich and Juventus. Take out diddy teams like Arsenal and Fenerbache and replace them with the above three then you would have Europe's elite alright
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Main Street on December 13, 2007, 01:54:31 PM
The RTE commentary wasn't as excited as the Sky lot, the commentator said something like Ronnie Rozental can now rest in peace.

I was delighted for Lyon, Rangers were set up to get a draw.
Also delighted that Rangers lost, don't know why, something genetic I guess and maybe all the people I know around the world who's day today whatever the trouble will be made all the easier.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: T Fearon on December 13, 2007, 01:59:27 PM
Agreed! It is simply amazing how a simple football result can induce a complete mood swing from depression to delirium.

You should have listened to the commentary on Radio 5 last night and heard that bluenose twat Alan Green have a heart attack when the huns missed a sitter and Lyon went up and scored their second! Priceless. ;D
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: nifan on December 13, 2007, 02:05:52 PM
I was happy to see rangers go out.
I never like to see the old firm do too well - we have to hear farcical rubbish about how they would be in the upper echelons of the premier league repeatedly then.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: clarshack on December 13, 2007, 02:25:29 PM
Quote from: nifan on December 13, 2007, 02:05:52 PM
I was happy to see rangers go out.
I never like to see the old firm do too well - we have to hear farcical rubbish about how they would be in the upper echelons of the premier league repeatedly then.

people conveniently forget that if celtic and rangers were in the EPL they WOULD NOT have the squads they currently have. they would have the money to attract top players and subsequently would do well - hardly farcical rubbish.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: nifan on December 13, 2007, 02:45:37 PM
they have no idea what the effect playing teams like they would meet in the prem week in week out would do.
Rangers and celtic would not have the luxury of numerous "gimmee" games during the season where they win at a canter. Theyd be up against sides who would be at the top of the spl every single week.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on December 13, 2007, 02:50:35 PM
Quote from: nifan on December 13, 2007, 02:45:37 PM
they have no idea what the effect playing teams like they would meet in the prem week in week out would do.
Rangers and celtic would not have the luxury of numerous "gimmee" games during the season where they win at a canter. Theyd be up against sides who would be at the top of the spl every single week.

Who would that be then? Wigan, Portsmouth, Sunderland, Blackburn, Middlesborough!  ;)
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on December 13, 2007, 02:56:09 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on December 13, 2007, 01:19:04 PM
Gaoth Dobhair, hypothetical  questions cannot really be answered. fact is I am a fan of both clubs and put my money where my mouth is, just as I am a fan of more than one Rock Band, TV programme etc etc ;D

Have u got a few birds on the go or do u keep yourself to just the one??? Football is a lot like women, u can only get away with loyalty to one!!!
Title: Re: The Official Huns thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on December 13, 2007, 03:02:39 PM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on December 13, 2007, 11:37:27 AM
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on December 12, 2007, 10:38:09 PMPersonally for pure footballing reasons i would have liked to see Rangers go thru..I don't care about religion,politics when it comes to soccer and i think it have been great to see Rangers meet Chelsea or Man United or possibly even Celtic in the round after

Do u care about a club singing about being up to their knees in Fenian blood???



There in lies the problem if you ask me...
I support teams not fans(im not a Rangers fan btw or Celtic for that matter)..
If i was to worry about what fans did and sang i'd hardly be a Liverpool fan now would I?
Im sure half if not most of the Rangers players know f**k all about what the Rangers fans are singing about,I like to see good soccer matches and i would have liked to see Rangers go thru purely for that reason because it would have been interesting too see them play Man U,Chelsea or possibly even Celtic in the latter stages..
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on December 13, 2007, 03:06:29 PM
Quote from: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on December 13, 2007, 02:50:35 PM
Quote from: nifan on December 13, 2007, 02:45:37 PM
they have no idea what the effect playing teams like they would meet in the prem week in week out would do.
Rangers and celtic would not have the luxury of numerous "gimmee" games during the season where they win at a canter. Theyd be up against sides who would be at the top of the spl every single week.

Who would that be then? Wigan, Portsmouth, Sunderland, Blackburn, Middlesborough!  ;)

Portsmouth and Blackburn are as good as any team in the SPL
Title: Re: The Official Huns thread
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on December 13, 2007, 03:14:39 PM
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on December 13, 2007, 03:02:39 PM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on December 13, 2007, 11:37:27 AM
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on December 12, 2007, 10:38:09 PMPersonally for pure footballing reasons i would have liked to see Rangers go thru..I don't care about religion,politics when it comes to soccer and i think it have been great to see Rangers meet Chelsea or Man United or possibly even Celtic in the round after

Do u care about a club singing about being up to their knees in Fenian blood???



There in lies the problem if you ask me...
I support teams not fans(im not a Rangers fan btw or Celtic for that matter)..
If i was to worry about what fans did and sang i'd hardly be a Liverpool fan now would I?
Im sure half if not most of the Rangers players know f**k all about what the Rangers fans are singing about,I like to see good soccer matches and i would have liked to see Rangers go thru purely for that reason because it would have been interesting too see them play Man U,Chelsea or possibly even Celtic in the latter stages..

:o :o :o A club is defined by those who turn up week in week out to support it, their history and their associated baggage if applicable. IMO it's all about the fans, players come and go, the fans will be there through the good times and the bad. Invariably I find myself developing soft spots for clubs with a decent fanbase and dare I say it a good community feel about them, e.g. Barca & Villareal. Used to support Inter in de Seria A as a nipper, can't stand them now... You can't seperate the club/team from the fans, they are inextricably linked...
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: clarshack on December 13, 2007, 03:16:27 PM
Quote from: nifan on December 13, 2007, 02:45:37 PM
Theyd be up against sides who would be at the top of the spl every single week.

take away the top 4 in the EPl and the rest are nothing special.
Title: Re: The Official Huns thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on December 13, 2007, 03:21:46 PM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on December 13, 2007, 03:14:39 PM
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on December 13, 2007, 03:02:39 PM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on December 13, 2007, 11:37:27 AM
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on December 12, 2007, 10:38:09 PMPersonally for pure footballing reasons i would have liked to see Rangers go thru..I don't care about religion,politics when it comes to soccer and i think it have been great to see Rangers meet Chelsea or Man United or possibly even Celtic in the round after

Do u care about a club singing about being up to their knees in Fenian blood???



There in lies the problem if you ask me...
I support teams not fans(im not a Rangers fan btw or Celtic for that matter)..
If i was to worry about what fans did and sang i'd hardly be a Liverpool fan now would I?
Im sure half if not most of the Rangers players know f**k all about what the Rangers fans are singing about,I like to see good soccer matches and i would have liked to see Rangers go thru purely for that reason because it would have been interesting too see them play Man U,Chelsea or possibly even Celtic in the latter stages..

:o :o :o A club is defined by those who turn up week in week out to support it, their history and their associated baggage if applicable. IMO it's all about the fans, players come and go, the fans will be there through the good times and the bad. Invariably I find myself developing soft spots for clubs with a decent fanbase and dare I say it a good community feel about them, e.g. Barca & Villareal. Used to support Inter in de Seria A as a nipper, can't stand them now... You can't seperate the club/team from the fans, they are inextricably linked...

Well if thats the case i will have to stop supporting Liverpool because everyone knows their history...
Seriously though i can see what your point is but for me it's all about the club and not the fans who support them
Btw is this the same Barca fans who made monkey jestures at Shaun Wright Philips and threw a pigs head at Figo when he returned to the Nou Camp after joining Real Madrid?
Title: Re: The Official Huns thread
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on December 13, 2007, 03:35:04 PM
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on December 13, 2007, 03:21:46 PM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on December 13, 2007, 03:14:39 PM
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on December 13, 2007, 03:02:39 PM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on December 13, 2007, 11:37:27 AM
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on December 12, 2007, 10:38:09 PMPersonally for pure footballing reasons i would have liked to see Rangers go thru..I don't care about religion,politics when it comes to soccer and i think it have been great to see Rangers meet Chelsea or Man United or possibly even Celtic in the round after

Do u care about a club singing about being up to their knees in Fenian blood???



There in lies the problem if you ask me...
I support teams not fans(im not a Rangers fan btw or Celtic for that matter)..
If i was to worry about what fans did and sang i'd hardly be a Liverpool fan now would I?
Im sure half if not most of the Rangers players know f**k all about what the Rangers fans are singing about,I like to see good soccer matches and i would have liked to see Rangers go thru purely for that reason because it would have been interesting too see them play Man U,Chelsea or possibly even Celtic in the latter stages..

:o :o :o A club is defined by those who turn up week in week out to support it, their history and their associated baggage if applicable. IMO it's all about the fans, players come and go, the fans will be there through the good times and the bad. Invariably I find myself developing soft spots for clubs with a decent fanbase and dare I say it a good community feel about them, e.g. Barca & Villareal. Used to support Inter in de Seria A as a nipper, can't stand them now... You can't seperate the club/team from the fans, they are inextricably linked...

Well if thats the case i will have to stop supporting Liverpool because everyone knows their history...
Seriously though i can see what your point is but for me it's all about the club and not the fans who support them
Btw is this the same Barca fans who made monkey jestures at Shaun Wright Philips and threw a pigs head at Figo when he returned to the Nou Camp after joining Real Madrid?

Was fully mindful of the Figo incident when typing and in a perverse way find it humurous. What better way to show your disgust at one of your star players following the dollar to the establishment club, your main rivals, than smuggling a pigs head into the ground... Not aware of the SWP incident, was it not Spanish fans who were booing him and Ashley Cole in the Bernabeu???

On a side note, thought Liverpool had successfully dealt with their problems till the CL final last year. Was in Anfield for the Celtic game in 03 and might as well have been sat in the away section, it was that safe. Great craic before, during and after...
Title: Re: The Official Huns thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on December 13, 2007, 03:37:41 PM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on December 13, 2007, 03:35:04 PM
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on December 13, 2007, 03:21:46 PM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on December 13, 2007, 03:14:39 PM
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on December 13, 2007, 03:02:39 PM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on December 13, 2007, 11:37:27 AM
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on December 12, 2007, 10:38:09 PMPersonally for pure footballing reasons i would have liked to see Rangers go thru..I don't care about religion,politics when it comes to soccer and i think it have been great to see Rangers meet Chelsea or Man United or possibly even Celtic in the round after

Do u care about a club singing about being up to their knees in Fenian blood???



There in lies the problem if you ask me...
I support teams not fans(im not a Rangers fan btw or Celtic for that matter)..
If i was to worry about what fans did and sang i'd hardly be a Liverpool fan now would I?
Im sure half if not most of the Rangers players know f**k all about what the Rangers fans are singing about,I like to see good soccer matches and i would have liked to see Rangers go thru purely for that reason because it would have been interesting too see them play Man U,Chelsea or possibly even Celtic in the latter stages..

:o :o :o A club is defined by those who turn up week in week out to support it, their history and their associated baggage if applicable. IMO it's all about the fans, players come and go, the fans will be there through the good times and the bad. Invariably I find myself developing soft spots for clubs with a decent fanbase and dare I say it a good community feel about them, e.g. Barca & Villareal. Used to support Inter in de Seria A as a nipper, can't stand them now... You can't seperate the club/team from the fans, they are inextricably linked...

Well if thats the case i will have to stop supporting Liverpool because everyone knows their history...
Seriously though i can see what your point is but for me it's all about the club and not the fans who support them
Btw is this the same Barca fans who made monkey jestures at Shaun Wright Philips and threw a pigs head at Figo when he returned to the Nou Camp after joining Real Madrid?

Was fully mindful of the Figo incident when typing and in a perverse way find it humurous. What better way to show your disgust at one of your star players following the dollar to the establishment club, your main rivals, than smuggling a pigs head into the ground... Not aware of the SWP incident, was it not Spanish fans who were booing him and Ashley Cole in the Bernabeu???

On a side note, thought Liverpool had successfully dealt with their problems till the CL final last year. Was in Anfield for the Celtic game in 03 and might as well have been sat in the away section, it was that safe. Great craic before, during and after...


Chelsea haven't played Madrid in the last few years but they have played Barca twice in the Nou Camp in the last few years so im fairly sure it was Barcelona fans but i could be mistaken
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on December 13, 2007, 03:44:59 PM
My apologises you were spot on it was in Madrid at a friendly between England and Spain...I was getting me wires crossed  :-[
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: nifan on December 13, 2007, 03:47:22 PM
The top 4 are miles ahead of scotland, but most of the prem teams would be contending for honours in scotland.
Title: Re: The Official Huns thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on December 13, 2007, 03:50:57 PM
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on December 13, 2007, 03:02:39 PM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on December 13, 2007, 11:37:27 AM
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on December 12, 2007, 10:38:09 PMPersonally for pure footballing reasons i would have liked to see Rangers go thru..I don't care about religion,politics when it comes to soccer and i think it have been great to see Rangers meet Chelsea or Man United or possibly even Celtic in the round after
Do u care about a club singing about being up to their knees in Fenian blood???
There in lies the problem if you ask me...
I support teams not fans(im not a Rangers fan btw or Celtic for that matter)..
If i was to worry about what fans did and sang i'd hardly be a Liverpool fan now would I?
Im sure half if not most of the Rangers players know f**k all about what the Rangers fans are singing about,I like to see good soccer matches and i would have liked to see Rangers go thru purely for that reason because it would have been interesting too see them play Man U,Chelsea or possibly even Celtic in the latter stages..
you obv dont know much about rangers then....unlike celtic who have made huge efforts to change from tradition (but still have a few looney fans) - rangers as a club still retain the inherent sectarianism and indulge/allow such practises to continue.
The good thing is that they have had to start buying catholic players etc to the horror of their fans and some shareholders, but a fair few of their players current and former are of the sectarian variety as well...barry fergusons family, bob 'ftp' malcolm etc etc...
so the club is sectarian, and until they purge themselves, will remain so.
the 'old firm' is a myth...Celtic are nothing like rangers and only thing they share is the same city.
Title: Re: The Official Huns thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on December 13, 2007, 03:58:07 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on December 13, 2007, 03:50:57 PM
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on December 13, 2007, 03:02:39 PM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on December 13, 2007, 11:37:27 AM
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on December 12, 2007, 10:38:09 PMPersonally for pure footballing reasons i would have liked to see Rangers go thru..I don't care about religion,politics when it comes to soccer and i think it have been great to see Rangers meet Chelsea or Man United or possibly even Celtic in the round after
Do u care about a club singing about being up to their knees in Fenian blood???
There in lies the problem if you ask me...
I support teams not fans(im not a Rangers fan btw or Celtic for that matter)..
If i was to worry about what fans did and sang i'd hardly be a Liverpool fan now would I?
Im sure half if not most of the Rangers players know f**k all about what the Rangers fans are singing about,I like to see good soccer matches and i would have liked to see Rangers go thru purely for that reason because it would have been interesting too see them play Man U,Chelsea or possibly even Celtic in the latter stages..
you obv dont know much about rangers then....unlike celtic who have made huge efforts to change from tradition (but still have a few looney fans) - rangers as a club still retain the inherent sectarianism and indulge/allow such practises to continue.
The good thing is that they have had to start buying catholic players etc to the horror of their fans and some shareholders, but a fair few of their players current and former are of the sectarian variety as well...barry fergusons family, bob 'ftp' malcolm etc etc...
so the club is sectarian, and until they purge themselves, will remain so.
the 'old firm' is a myth...Celtic are nothing like rangers and only thing they share is the same city.

No i know f**k all about Rangers or Celtic for that matter and I don't wish too know anything about both clubs because i couldn't give a toss about either club...
My orginal point was i would have liked to see Rangers go thru because it could have produced some interesting matches,I don't care about their fans or even their players i just looking at the whole thing from a sporting mind not a religious/political one
Title: Re: The Official Huns thread
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on December 13, 2007, 04:07:42 PM
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on December 13, 2007, 03:58:07 PMNo i know f**k all about Rangers or Celtic for that matter and I don't wish too know anything about both clubs because i couldn't give a toss about either club...
My orginal point was i would have liked to see Rangers go thru because it could have produced some interesting matches,I don't care about their fans or even their players i just looking at the whole thing from a sporting mind not a religious/political one

In Rankers case I'm afraid u can't seperate the club from their one religion philosophy, i.e. sectarianism, no matter how unrelated u think they are. It's like trying to discuss the invasion of Iraq without mentioning oil...
Title: Re: The Official Huns thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on December 13, 2007, 04:17:02 PM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on December 13, 2007, 04:07:42 PM
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on December 13, 2007, 03:58:07 PMNo i know f**k all about Rangers or Celtic for that matter and I don't wish too know anything about both clubs because i couldn't give a toss about either club...
My orginal point was i would have liked to see Rangers go thru because it could have produced some interesting matches,I don't care about their fans or even their players i just looking at the whole thing from a sporting mind not a religious/political one

In Rankers case I'm afraid u can't seperate the club from their one religion philosophy, i.e. sectarianism, no matter how unrelated u think they are. It's like trying to discuss the invasion of Iraq without mentioning oil...
correct !
Title: Re: The Official Huns thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on December 13, 2007, 04:17:20 PM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on December 13, 2007, 04:07:42 PM
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on December 13, 2007, 03:58:07 PMNo i know f**k all about Rangers or Celtic for that matter and I don't wish too know anything about both clubs because i couldn't give a toss about either club...
My orginal point was i would have liked to see Rangers go thru because it could have produced some interesting matches,I don't care about their fans or even their players i just looking at the whole thing from a sporting mind not a religious/political one

In Rankers case I'm afraid u can't seperate the club from their one religion philosophy, i.e. sectarianism, no matter how unrelated u think they are. It's like trying to discuss the invasion of Iraq without mentioning oil...

Fair enough im not going to argue over what Rangers fans/club are like...
I still think it would have made some interesting matches if they got thru and thats all I meant from the outset
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: southdown on December 13, 2007, 05:08:24 PM
I have a question for any Rangers fans who go to the RFC supporters bar on Sandy Row:

Above the main entrance are 3 flags - u Union Jack, A Northern Ireland IFA flag, and a Northern Ireland flag.  Why no Rangers flag?  Or do the members affiliate themselve more with Northern Ireland Unionism than they do the actual football club?

Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: From the Bunker on December 13, 2007, 05:11:11 PM
Don't know if this was covered already, apologies if it has, but what were the 5 stars doing over the crest on Rangers Champions league Jersey? I presume they are there to show that they have won the domestic league 5 x 10 times! But what has that got to do with this competition.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: nifan on December 13, 2007, 05:32:25 PM
I thought the rangers supporters club burned down years ago???
Title: Re: The Official Huns thread
Post by: stew on December 13, 2007, 05:52:50 PM
Quote from: Lamh Dhearg Alba on December 13, 2007, 05:35:36 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on December 13, 2007, 03:50:57 PM
you obv dont know much about rangers then....unlike celtic who have made huge efforts to change from tradition (but still have a few looney fans) - rangers as a club still retain the inherent sectarianism and indulge/allow such practises to continue.
The good thing is that they have had to start buying catholic players etc to the horror of their fans and some shareholders, but a fair few of their players current and former are of the sectarian variety as well...barry fergusons family, bob 'ftp' malcolm etc etc...
so the club is sectarian, and until they purge themselves, will remain so.
the 'old firm' is a myth...Celtic are nothing like rangers and only thing they share is the same city.

I really dislike Rangers and thoroughly enjoyed their defeat last night but there are a few things there Lynchbhoy that cant be allowed to pass. The comment about Barry Ferguson's family in particular is uncalled for, Ferguson's grandad is a Celtic man and the lad himself is married to a Catholic girl and has spoken out against bigotry a lot in recent years. Ferguson and Stephen McManus are all actually good mates by all accounts however much certain elements of both supports dont like to hear about it.
Rangers have made a huge effort in recent times (mainly down to Uefa threatening them really but it all counts) and lots of fans have banned and the sectarian singing is greatly reduced on old times. More loonies than Celtic without doubt, but improving.

Still wouldnt take my family anywhere near either place.


Delighted to see the huns going down like the spineless hoors they are. Losing three nil at home to that shower is a disaster and couldnt happen to a better club. ;D
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: stiffler on December 13, 2007, 06:16:11 PM
I have disliked Rangers from the day that Gazza imitated playing the flute during a game.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: his holiness nb on December 13, 2007, 07:32:44 PM
I couldnt give a f**k about Celtic or Rangers to be honest, and sat down to watch the game trying to maintain a neutral NON POLITICAL point of view and just watch the ball. But unfortunately the politics were brought into it by the rangers fans. Union jacks everywhere and "rule britannia" being sung.
Its hard to see them as just a football team when their fan do everything in their power to portray them otherwise.

And yes I know there are similar examples from the Celtic side.
This is why I dont give a shite about either side.

Except when they play each other, then I'll cheer for Celtic  ;)
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: stew on December 13, 2007, 11:33:46 PM
Quote from: tram on December 13, 2007, 07:36:13 PM
Quote from: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on December 13, 2007, 09:24:43 AM
Quote from: tram on December 13, 2007, 01:03:52 AM
I think there's little doubt that the word "Huns" is being used as a derogatory term here. And if I was a Glasgow Celtic fan I wouldn't be shouting too much considering that they had to rely on others to get through to the knockout stages.
I'm a hoops fan and fail to see why the fcuk you need to bring us into this thread, TF is a Spurs fan not a Celtic fan, so keep your sad little digs about Celtic to the relevent threads (Official Glasgow Celtic Thread).
Show me a Glasgow Celtic supporter whom has never taken any glee over the misfortune of Glasgow Rangers  on the field and I will be stunned. Nearly all the supporters from both clubs feed off the bile off each other, so spare me the thin skin. Don't have much time for cross-channel soccer because of shite like this.

I am not a supporter of Celtic but i love it when the gers get bate, I also love it when the Glens get bate, and when Linfield get bate I love that too. I am beginning to see a pattern forming here. ;)
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: T Fearon on December 14, 2007, 11:21:58 AM
I cannot understand why any Irish sports fan cannot have huge affinity and admiration for Celtic. The club was established by a Christian Brother from Sligo for cahritable purposes, and ethos which still exists to this day, and from such humble beginnings to arise to a position where it became Champions of Europe and one of the biggest soccer clubs in the world, is a truly remarkable achievement and one in my opinion that renders it the Irish diaspora's most successful achievement.

In short it is more than just a football club, it is a symbol of Irish identity all over the world and more like a family
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: his holiness nb on December 14, 2007, 11:34:39 AM
Quote from: T Fearon on December 14, 2007, 11:21:58 AM
I cannot understand why any Irish sports fan cannot have huge affinity and admiration for Celtic. The club was established by a Christian Brother from Sligo for cahritable purposes, and ethos which still exists to this day, and from such humble beginnings to arise to a position where it became Champions of Europe and one of the biggest soccer clubs in the world, is a truly remarkable achievement and one in my opinion that renders it the Irish diaspora's most successful achievement.

In short it is more than just a football club, it is a symbol of Irish identity all over the world and more like a family

What if you are a sports fan but not a soccer fan Tony?
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: MW on December 14, 2007, 11:53:44 AM
Quote from: T Fearon on December 13, 2007, 12:05:18 PM
On the contrary a competitive meeting between Spurs and Celtic would cause a huge All's I know is that with this year being the 125th anniversary of Spurs and the 40th anniversary of the Lisbon Lions I reckon I have spent between £1000 to £1500 quid on the celebrations, memoribilia etc and have attended both club's AGMs in my capacity as a shareholder. What more do I need to do to prove my commitment to both?

In relation to Spurs, perhaps not label Pat Jennings, Gary Lineker and Glenn Hoddle as match-fixing cheats? :)
Title: Re: The Official Huns thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on December 14, 2007, 12:16:15 PM
Quote from: Lamh Dhearg Alba on December 13, 2007, 05:35:36 PM
I really dislike Rangers and thoroughly enjoyed their defeat last night but there are a few things there Lynchbhoy that cant be allowed to pass. The comment about Barry Ferguson's family in particular is uncalled for, Ferguson's grandad is a Celtic man and the lad himself is married to a Catholic girl and has spoken out against bigotry a lot in recent years. Ferguson and Stephen McManus are all actually good mates by all accounts however much certain elements of both supports dont like to hear about it.
Rangers have made a huge effort in recent times (mainly down to Uefa threatening them really but it all counts) and lots of fans have banned and the sectarian singing is greatly reduced on old times. More loonies than Celtic without doubt, but improving.

Still wouldnt take my family anywhere near either place.
I didnt say Barry ferguson - I said his family..
His brother in particular. So my comment stands.
What most people wont know and def not understand that Rangers/Celtic supporters can occur in families - brothers, cousins schoolmates etc etc
so that Fergusons granda was a Celtic supporter means nowt to his brother etc and his known participation in sectarian singing for example showing him for what he is.

I know rangers have made an effort, but imo this is a token gesture with a nod towards uefa as mentioned.  I wouldnt put it in the 'improvement' category until I see more backing than is currently coming from their club officials.
Celtic have loonies, rangers loonies occupy maybe three quarters of their stadium (well certainly on match days v celtic).
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: fred the red on August 09, 2008, 01:11:42 PM
Out of interest, is there any Glasgow Rangers fans on the board?
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on August 09, 2008, 01:14:21 PM
Quote from: fred the red on August 09, 2008, 01:11:42 PM
Out of interest, is there any Glasgow Rangers fans on the board?

I wouldn't call myself a fan,But i would have liked to see them win the Uefa Cup last year seeing as they were in the final,and anytime they played Man United in the Champions League lately I was hoping they would win.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: gallsman on August 09, 2008, 01:58:53 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on December 14, 2007, 11:21:58 AM
I cannot understand why any Irish sports fan cannot have huge affinity and admiration for Celtic. The club was established by a Christian Brother from Sligo for cahritable purposes, and ethos which still exists to this day, and from such humble beginnings to arise to a position where it became Champions of Europe and one of the biggest soccer clubs in the world, is a truly remarkable achievement and one in my opinion that renders it the Irish diaspora's most successful achievement.

In short it is more than just a football club, it is a symbol of Irish identity all over the world and more like a family

God, this time you really have to be kidding, no?

Why I feel no affinity for Celtic? 'Cos I don't give a toss about supporting soccer teams? Because they're a shit team hyped up by their adimttedly phenomenal and fantastic support.

Jessica Kuerten is an example of an Irishwoman at the pinnacle of her sport. I don't feel any affinity or admiration for her.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on August 09, 2008, 02:04:46 PM
Quote from: his holiness nb on December 13, 2007, 07:32:44 PM
I couldnt give a f**k about Celtic or Rangers to be honest, and sat down to watch the game trying to maintain a neutral NON POLITICAL point of view and just watch the ball. But unfortunately the politics were brought into it by the rangers fans. Union jacks everywhere and "rule britannia" being sung.
Its hard to see them as just a football team when their fan do everything in their power to portray them otherwise.

And yes I know there are similar examples from the Celtic side.
This is why I dont give a shite about either side.

Except when they play each other, then I'll cheer for Celtic  ;)
Why wouldn't they have Union Jacks  ??? They are British afterall..
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 09, 2008, 08:41:52 PM
I have a simple enough approach to soccer when I can be bothered to take an interest. I don't like to see certain teams win such as Rangers and England. In rangers case due to large sections of their crowd having an anti irish agenda (see booing of Robbie Keane as most recent example). England, I mostly dislike these days due to their media (although previously politics would have been a bigger problem for me with them). There are other teams I don't like for other reasons and I reserve the right to have that opinion. Likewise, I like to see Celtic do well because of their Irish links. Where I have a problem is when I see people lowering their standards to the same as the standards of the Rangers fans they so detest. Hun B**tards, black B**tards etc etc are often used by Celtic fans and personally I think it makes that fan no better than those they are abusing.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: fred the red on August 12, 2008, 10:08:40 PM
Cuellar is gonna be a big loss this season.

Will walter have the money now to finally bring in Davis? whos gonna fill the gap in defence?
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Mentalman on August 12, 2008, 10:25:55 PM
Quote from: fred the red on August 12, 2008, 10:08:40 PM
Cuellar is gonna be a big loss this season.

Will walter have the money now to finally bring in Davis? whos gonna fill the gap in defence?

On Newstalk tonight they reckoned Rangers had to sell because of the hole in their finances due to not only missing out on the chumps, but Europe full stop.

If they do have money to spend, they can have any number of OWC players from Fulham, most of whom are sinking without a trace.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on August 12, 2008, 10:32:50 PM
The money from the Cuellar sale will go straight into Sir Minty Moonbeams pocket (too pay some of the interest on his massive debts - mostly incured by supporting the Orcs) obviously Osasuna have too get their sell-on percentage first, between 15% and 40%. Another fine piece of business from Mordor..  ::) :D
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: fred the red on August 12, 2008, 10:38:39 PM
Quote from: Mentalman on August 12, 2008, 10:25:55 PM
Quote from: fred the red on August 12, 2008, 10:08:40 PM
Cuellar is gonna be a big loss this season.

Will walter have the money now to finally bring in Davis? whos gonna fill the gap in defence?

On Newstalk tonight they reckoned Rangers had to sell because of the hole in their finances due to not only missing out on the chumps, but Europe full stop.

If they do have money to spend, they can have any number of OWC players from Fulham, most of whom are sinking without a trace.


Chris Baird would be an excellent signing, however his gaelic past might not go down so well with a section of the rangers support.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on October 20, 2009, 09:15:31 PM
Huns getting beaten 4-1 by Romanians, Romanians scored huns only goal and Lafferty and McCullough scored for the Romanians!! I kid you not, still 20 mins left for another couple, expecting the referee to score the next one.  :D :D :D
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: slow corner back on October 20, 2009, 09:16:52 PM
Holy Sh*t they got pounded by Sevilla in the last game at ibrox as well didnt they!!
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on October 20, 2009, 09:18:38 PM
Just shows how piss poor the Scottish League and the "top teams" in it are...
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on October 20, 2009, 09:29:06 PM
Quote from: slow corner back on October 20, 2009, 09:16:52 PM
Holy Sh*t they got pounded by Sevilla in the last game at ibrox as well didnt they!!

Aye think they got humped 4-1 as well.

Home fans now booing their own players.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: AFS on October 20, 2009, 09:40:57 PM
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on October 20, 2009, 09:18:38 PM
Just shows how piss poor the Scottish League and the "top teams" in it are...

The SPL must be dropping down the coefficients table at a rate of knots. Look very like losing their 2nd CL place in the next season or two. Bad news for Celtic.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on October 20, 2009, 09:42:37 PM
Quote from: AFS on October 20, 2009, 09:40:57 PM
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on October 20, 2009, 09:18:38 PM
Just shows how piss poor the Scottish League and the "top teams" in it are...

The SPL must be dropping down the coefficients table at a rate of knots.

Its a joke that they get 2 Champions League places..
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: AFS on October 20, 2009, 09:43:59 PM
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on October 20, 2009, 09:42:37 PM
Quote from: AFS on October 20, 2009, 09:40:57 PM
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on October 20, 2009, 09:18:38 PM
Just shows how piss poor the Scottish League and the "top teams" in it are...

The SPL must be dropping down the coefficients table at a rate of knots.

Its a joke that they get 2 Champions League places..

Not for long at this rate
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on October 20, 2009, 09:45:47 PM
Quote from: AFS on October 20, 2009, 09:43:59 PM
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on October 20, 2009, 09:42:37 PM
Quote from: AFS on October 20, 2009, 09:40:57 PM
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on October 20, 2009, 09:18:38 PM
Just shows how piss poor the Scottish League and the "top teams" in it are...

The SPL must be dropping down the coefficients table at a rate of knots.

Its a joke that they get 2 Champions League places..

Not for long at this rate

Mid table Coca Cola Championship teams IMHO..
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: ONeill on October 20, 2009, 09:48:03 PM
Rangers would beat Liverpool right now, home and away.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: stew on October 20, 2009, 11:06:58 PM
Quote from: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on October 20, 2009, 09:15:31 PM
Huns getting beaten 4-1 by Romanians, Romanians scored huns only goal and Lafferty and McCullough scored for the Romanians!! I kid you not, still 20 mins left for another couple, expecting the referee to score the next one.  :D :D :D

:D :D :D
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Final Whistle on October 21, 2009, 10:28:25 AM
Here Tony, you Sectarian Fat f**k-Something for you to beat your Partisan Drum about

QuoteMaurice Edu claims he was racially abused by Rangers fans after Tuesday night's Champions League thrashing by Unirea Urziceni.

United States midfielder Edu, 23, played no part in the 4-1 Group G defeat but watched the match at Ibrox and says he was targeted by his own club's supporters as he left the stadium.

Edu wrote a message on his Twitter feed which read: "Not sure what hurt more: result last nite or being racially abused by couple of r own fans as I'm getting in my car."
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Maiden1 on October 21, 2009, 12:04:32 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on October 21, 2009, 09:49:33 AM
And Davis missed a penalty as well :D

It must be terrible for Watty Smith all the same. 15 years ago he could have sent out a team at Ibrox with names like Laudrup, Gascoigne etc that would have been a match for most in Europe. He must squirm when he has to write names like Lafferty, Davis, Mc Culloch on his team sheets now

They are still SPL champions and top of the SPL, doesn't say much for Celtic.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on October 21, 2009, 05:39:07 PM
Great news if your not a bear!  :D

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/r/rangers/8318132.stm

Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on October 26, 2009, 11:42:01 AM
http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/display.var.2533183.0.storm_brewing_over_ibrox.php
:D :D :D

Makes you kinda glad we had the biscuit tin!
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Orior on October 26, 2009, 11:43:54 AM
Anyone buy the Sun today?
Anyone buy the Sun today?

Care to enlighten us on the wonderful stories regarding Andy Goram?
Care to enlighten us on the wonderful stories regarding Andy Goram?

Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Archie Mitchell on October 26, 2009, 11:51:27 AM
Seen the ad on TV for it last night. Couldn't be the best wrote book anyway.

Doesn't look good if their management team is out of contract in January and no sign of new contracts. £30 million in debt and the bank, who effectively are running the club now, are asking for every penny. 
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: lfdown2 on October 26, 2009, 11:54:52 AM
Quote from: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on October 26, 2009, 11:42:01 AM
http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/display.var.2533183.0.storm_brewing_over_ibrox.php
:D :D :D

Makes you kinda glad we had the biscuit tin!

do you think this is a good thing GDA, while not overly sorry for them do you not think Celtic and Rangers need each other, if Rangers are fcked I would imagine there will be little or no activity for celtic in the january window, it all looks grim for the old firm, both sides going backwards with little or no hope of reprieve!
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Doogie Browser on October 26, 2009, 11:56:45 AM
http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/news/article2699204.ece

he was just misunderstood  ::)
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on October 26, 2009, 12:07:42 PM
Quote from: lfdown2 on October 26, 2009, 11:54:52 AM
Quote from: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on October 26, 2009, 11:42:01 AM
http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/display.var.2533183.0.storm_brewing_over_ibrox.php
:D :D :D

Makes you kinda glad we had the biscuit tin!

do you think this is a good thing GDA, while not overly sorry for them do you not think Celtic and Rangers need each other, if Rangers are fcked I would imagine there will be little or no activity for celtic in the january window, it all looks grim for the old firm, both sides going backwards with little or no hope of reprieve!


Ifdown2, I know what your saying, its a bit of a symbiotic relationship (believe it or not, I have a friend who honestly believes that Celtic threw away the league last year to save Rangers!).
Rankers will never fold (as neither would Celtic) someone will always come in with a rescue package (very cut price) at the last minute - see Fergus McCann.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on October 27, 2009, 04:17:28 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/r/rangers/8324603.stm


Lads having a whipround to put a bid in, anyone up for it?
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on October 27, 2009, 08:43:38 PM
Dundee 1 - Rangers 1 half-time in the CIS cup.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 27, 2009, 09:01:27 PM
Quote from: Doogie Browser on October 26, 2009, 11:56:45 AM
http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/news/article2699204.ece

he was just misunderstood  ::)
It would make a grown man cry :'(
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on October 28, 2009, 01:39:01 PM
Goram also accuses Roy Keane of refusing to shake his hand and blanking him while he was at Old Trafford. Ah sure it sells books.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Eastern_Pride on October 28, 2009, 01:48:32 PM
Quote from: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on October 28, 2009, 01:39:01 PM
Goram also accuses Roy Keane of refusing to shake his hand and blanking him while he was at Old Trafford. Ah sure it sells books.
He's a bit of a sensitive lad isn't he....
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on November 02, 2009, 08:23:10 PM
Rangers current situation: important update.

By David RST Friday, 30th October 2009


Update from an RST board member.

Hello everyone,

As you know, I don't normally do such things, but given the circumstances, we feel it's important and fair that the support should know this. Obviously I won't name sources, but let me assure you, I wouldn't be posting this if :

a) I didn't trust the source implicitly
b) they didn't have a 100% track record
c) they weren't as close to the situation or
d) it didn't check out when we investigated it.

Allegedly;

• The bank are panicking
• Senior management are calling it 'a PR disaster'
• They want out soonest
• Bain is not involved in the day-to-day running of the club
• Muir is effectively running the club
• Muir is hawking players to clubs
• If the club is not sold at least three first team players will be sold in January in an attempt to raise £10m. This will allow the bank to drop the price for the club to £20m. They believe this might encourage further investors.

The pressure that is being brought to bear on Lloyds IS having an effect. Keep up the good work Bears.

Dangerous times, but potential sunshine ahead.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on November 02, 2009, 08:51:55 PM
Quote from: Orior on October 26, 2009, 11:43:54 AM
Anyone buy the Sun today?
Anyone buy the Sun today?

Care to enlighten us on the wonderful stories regarding Andy Goram?
Care to enlighten us on the wonderful stories regarding Andy Goram?

The radio ads were hawking it as the 'official' autobiography of Andy Goram. I'm having difficulties understanding what an unofficial autobiography could be.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: slow corner back on November 02, 2009, 10:06:32 PM
According to walter smith in the paper last week no one at ibrox including himself has had a new contract for 18 months. Come January Smith and McCoist are out of contract and six or seven of the first team squad are free to sign pre contract bosman deals. With Rankers being so deep in the hole financially any player doing so will be moved on to get him off the wage bill. What three rankers players would generate £10 million. I doubt there entire first team squad would especially as everyone knows they have to sell.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Main Street on November 02, 2009, 10:56:17 PM
"at least three first team players will be sold in January in an attempt to raise £10m"

;D
I agree, 'tis an overly optimistic valuation.


How did Rangers manage to make that other £60m debt disappear?

This  £30m debt is only what they overspent trying to make sure Strachan did not make it 4 in a row.





Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: stiffler on November 02, 2009, 11:00:41 PM
At a guess i would say Steve Davis, Bougherra and McGregor would get you a couple of million each (depending on contract length?)

Outside of Miller and Boyd, are there any other players who would be worth over a million?
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Archie Mitchell on November 02, 2009, 11:09:50 PM
Whitaker, Papac, Broadfoot, Kevin Thompson, Novo all would get a million each. Not bad players and could make a lower premiership or championship team.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Main Street on November 03, 2009, 12:18:57 AM
Let's not forget Lafferty, would he not be worth over a million?


Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on November 03, 2009, 02:46:45 PM
Bit of a long read but interesting all the same.

Tom English: So what if Smith can't sign players - his side cost £20m
Scotsman site.

It started with a miss, never thought it would come to this...

IT'S all Steven Davis's fault. Well, kind of. Imagine if he'd not missed that pen-alty against Unirea last Tuesday night. Imagine if he'd stuck it away in the corner and put his team 2-1 ahead at a tumultuous Ibrox. Ah yes, victory surely would have
been theirs. Three points and the dream of the last 16 reborn. Happy faces and high fives and any amount of Simply The Bests.

A win last week and Walter Smith wouldn't have been so frustrated, so mortified, so willing to talk about the financial plight of the club and the way it's preventing him from doing business. That's my guess. Had Unirea been put away on Tuesday, Watty would have kept schtum on Saturday. I don't doubt it for a second.

So it all goes back to Davis, who cost £3m. And Kevin Thomson, who cost £2m. And Kenny Miller, Steven Naismith, Steven Whittaker, Lee McCulloch and Kyle Lafferty, who cost another £12m between them, not to mind the absent ones, Pedro Mendes and Maurice Edu – £5.5m the pair.

Smith comes out and says he hasn't signed a player in a year. So what? The team that got humiliated last Tuesday night cost ten times more than Unirea's side. The team that could do no better than a draw at home to Hibs on Saturday cost about 20 times more. Did your heart bleed for Smith's lack of muscle in the transfer market? Did all you Hibs and Hearts fans who have, in relative terms, spent the square root of sod-all in transfer fees over the past few years shake your head and sigh in sympathy at Smith's plight? Did all you Dons rise as one and say, 'Yes, Walter, you can't be expected to go to war against Uni-wotsit with a team costing just twenty million quid'?

Wild guess here, but I think not.

The bleating about the lack of new players at Ibrox is a bit tiresome. In the last two years, Smith has spent pretty much the same amount of money on transfers as they have done at Celtic. Add them all up and there isn't a lot of difference between them. Apart from one, that is. Celtic spent what they could afford (just about) whereas Rangers spent what they did not have.

Lets's be clear about this. Rangers are in a mess and it is their own fault. It's not the bank that has done this. It is the club. They borrowed in order to give chase. Some of it, as we now know, was reckless. It was financial management not dissimilar to some of the kamikaze stuff that went on with the big banks of Scotland and wider Europe.

It was Sir David Murray's doing. He did it out of love, no doubt. Out of pride and ego, too. He cared too much. Dermot Desmond hasn't made the same mistake. Emotion has brought Rangers to this point. Murray ramped up the debt to beef-up the squad to deny Celtic further domestic dominance. Watching Celtic win one, two and three titles on the bounce must have hurt him. The thought of them going on to win four, five and six titles clearly galvanised him.

So he rolled the dice and cavalry arrived in the shape of Lafferty and Mendes and Davis and Edu and Bougherra. He plunged in the transfer market at the behest of his manager and with the full support of the faithful at Ibrox who were bitter about the sales of Alan Hutton and Carlos Cuellar – that money, by rights, should have gone to the bank – and who continue to walk this bizarre line of being scandalised by the scale of the debt but also wanting to increase it by signing new players. Rangers won the title but along came the recession. Bad luck, boys. You got caught.

It's humiliating for the lot of them. Rangers was always the apple of Murray's eye, the most beloved plank in his empire. It's now in a pitiful state, looking for a new owner with an increasing desperation. Look at what's happening. Smith says on Saturday that the bank now runs the club only for the bank to completely contradict the manager, thereby making him look even more of a fool than he did after Unirea.

A report on Monday then claims wrongly that Murray was forced out of his position as chairman by the bank and that they threatened to put the club into administration. Yesterday, the newspaper apologised for the 'forced out' line but did not retract their story about the club being close to administration, although the 'a' word was not mentioned again in any reports.

In days gone by, Murray would have been all over this like a Tsunami. He would have been on the radio and television, he'd have issued statements, he'd have blasted the allegations to kingdom come, but he can't do that now, because he's not The Man any more. The bank is calling the shots now. The only public comment we've had from Murray was from Murray Jnr, defending his old man. Sir David's silence through all of this is the biggest indication that things have changed dramatically at Ibrox. His pride and joy is getting pilloried left, right and centre and he can do little to fight the flak.

It's a mortifying period for Murray and Smith and for the wider Rangers community. Smith may survive to shape his legacy if Dave King truly is The Messiah that all of Ibrox is praying for. But Murray? Given the drama of his 20 years at Ibrox it seems a dismal end to his reign, brought on in part by a shattered economy, unbridled hubris and a love of the club that has ultimately brought it to a pretty dark place.

Haye needs to let his gloves do the talking

THERE is no arguing with David Haye's intelligence, but it's his class that we should doubt. The Hayemaker has said some cruel things about Nikolay Valuev, the 7ft Russian he is due to fight in Nuremberg for the WBA world heavyweight title on Saturday week. In a bitter preamble, Haye has described Valuev as the ugliest man he has ever seen. Not stopping there, Bermondsey's finest states that the stench of body odour from Valuev is almost overpowering.

Haye says lots of things, but it's what he does in the ring that counts. And so far he has done next to nothing. His only fight at heavyweight was a victory over the plodding 37-year- old American, Monte Barrett, a journeyman who'd been beaten in three of his previous six fights. One of Barrett's losses was to the terminally hopeless, Clive Couser, who sports a record of 20 losses in 50 fights and ten defeats in his last 11. That one victory was against Barrett, whose destruction by Haye is supposed to serve as some kind of message to the boxing world.

Valuev might not be much use, but we know he can bang. And, if he catches Haye flush and dumps him on his ass, then we're going to find out about the character of the guy. Haye has quality, but has he got heart?
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on November 05, 2009, 05:08:25 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/r/rangers/8343684.stm

Not our fault, was the police, stewards, officials etc...

Kinda reminds me of Manchester 2007.

Must have been Chelsea fans!
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Main Street on November 07, 2009, 12:23:00 PM
As if Ranger's woes are not enough, the Guardian paper reports that Walter fears Rangers will receive a ban when UEFA deal with the charges over their fan's behaviour in Romania.  "Obviously we have received warnings before" says Walter

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/nov/06/rangers-champions-league-possible-ban (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/nov/06/rangers-champions-league-possible-ban)

Walter says it is not an isolated incident and UEFA admit that Rangers' "background" will be taken into account.
We all know that "background" is a very dark and murky place.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: under the bar on November 07, 2009, 07:26:33 PM
QuoteWalter says it is not an isolated incident and UEFA admit that Rangers' "background" will be taken into account.
We all know that "background" is a very dark and murky place.

Ahh but there's always the old get-out-of-jail excuse that Murray and Findlay relied on a lot "The trouble was caused by infiltrators intent on violence, not real  Rangers supporters"
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Main Street on November 09, 2009, 04:31:00 PM
This is the link to the that article
http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/sport/columnists/billleckiesports/2719849/No-one-likes-em-no-bloody-wonder.html (http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/sport/columnists/billleckiesports/2719849/No-one-likes-em-no-bloody-wonder.html)
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on November 13, 2009, 01:21:40 AM
Fuckin disgrace - UEFA bottled it again!


http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/r/rangers/8356348.stm
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on November 28, 2009, 02:15:50 PM
Come on the Sheep shaggers, 20 mins to last out but down to 10 men!
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: slow corner back on November 28, 2009, 06:12:00 PM
Well don to the sheep shaggers, the SPL will be very open this season with any of the top six sides capable of taking points off the old firm who are both as poor as they have been for a long time. Hibs or Dundee Utd could well take second.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: The Watcher Pat on November 28, 2009, 08:46:18 PM
How bad is the SPL....? Before today Celtic have won 2 out of 10 and they are top!

Its that bad i don't even look for the results anymore..Newcastle on top of Championship would walk that league.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on November 28, 2009, 08:55:34 PM
Idiot, before today Celtic had won 2 out of 10 and were SECOND.  ::)
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on December 01, 2009, 11:36:11 AM
See Nacho the Chav is being investigated by the polis!  :D


http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/r/rangers/8385297.stm
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Main Street on December 08, 2009, 07:04:10 PM
Rangers still for sale
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/dec/07/rangers-agm-sale-walter-smith (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/dec/07/rangers-agm-sale-walter-smith)

Smith, meanwhile, conceded "stagnation" is a problem within his playing squad.

;D



Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: stew on December 08, 2009, 08:11:32 PM
Quote from: Main Street on December 08, 2009, 07:04:10 PM
Rangers still for sale
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/dec/07/rangers-agm-sale-walter-smith (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/dec/07/rangers-agm-sale-walter-smith)

Smith, meanwhile, conceded "stagnation" is a problem within his playing squad.

;D

So the are 31 million in debt and too stupid to sell of the naming rights of the stadium they play in. ::)

Why dont they just do what some yank teams do and call it for example bank of Scotland stadium at ibrox, ridiculous yes but a money maker and right now they need the funds.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: T Fearon on December 10, 2009, 09:52:55 PM
Stew, no company would get involved with the huns without simultaneously getting involved with Celtic, as for obvious reasons this would be commercial suicide. Thats why Carling appears on both club's jersies. So the naming righst thing is a non runner

Still laugh when I think of the 1989 Scottish Cup Final when Celtic fans were singing there'll be no Mc Ewans Lager in the Cup after out great 1-0 win over Saddam Souness's evil axis ;D
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on December 15, 2009, 02:34:15 PM
Forfar Manager makes a numpty of himself.

http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/scottish/scottish_news/636029/Dick-Campbell-is-caught-on-film-leading-Rangers-fans-in-Loyalist-anthem.html
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: stew on December 15, 2009, 04:43:54 PM
Quote from: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on December 15, 2009, 02:34:15 PM
Forfar Manager makes a numpty of himself.

http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/scottish/scottish_news/636029/Dick-Campbell-is-caught-on-film-leading-Rangers-fans-in-Loyalist-anthem.html

Lovely fellah that, what is it about rankers that turns people into hate filled scumbags?

I think that person coming out of the bar was very perceptive and he will get his walking papers however if he had one shred of decency he would resign before hurting his club any longer, that said having watched that performance I seriously doubt that the cnut has one shred of decency in him.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: red hander on December 15, 2009, 04:48:22 PM
The laugh of it is he denied it all when it was put to him by the Press, who then showed him the video... would have loved to have seen the w**ker's face.  BTW, is it not totally ironic that 'supporters' who pride themselves on hating all things Irish were in an Irish bar ... tossers
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: T Fearon on December 15, 2009, 06:23:29 PM
This is the latest in a litany of instances whereby other Scottish clubs' managers, players, prominent officials have gone out of ntheir way to show their allegiances to the Huns. Can anyone think of anyone else involved with another Scottish Club showing support or allegiance for Celtic?
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: stew on December 15, 2009, 06:40:50 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on December 15, 2009, 06:23:29 PM
This is the latest in a litany of instances whereby other Scottish clubs' managers, players, prominent officials have gone out of ntheir way to show their allegiances to the Huns. Can anyone think of anyone else involved with another Scottish Club showing support or allegiance for Celtic?

Scottish teams should steer clear of all of that Irish shite, it is laughable that the huns were in an Irish theme bar at the time of the loyalist rally/sing song.


Up t their necks in fenian blood yet again, sammyg et al will be so proud. ;)
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: T Fearon on December 15, 2009, 06:49:28 PM
Apart from that surely the manager of Forfar etc could see his team draw the Huns in the Cup, so travelling across Europe as a Huns fan surely is not the best career move for him. It is akin to Lee Clark, after he had joined Sunderand, appearing at the FA Cup Final supporting his beloved Newcastle in te late 90s while wearing a disparaging t shirt, which brought a swift end to his Sunderland career.


I remember way back in the late 90s when Mc Coist and Durrant were playing for Kilmarnock but were caught on camera singing their hearts out at the Rangers end during an Old Firm game, leading to allegations that when Killie played Rangers these two might not have actually been giving 100%.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Archie Mitchell on December 15, 2009, 08:05:52 PM
Same when the Norn Iron fans were assaulted in an Irish bar in Slovakia. Makes you wonder.

Flicked over to the Rangers game earlier there, and thought I heard the words "Bobby Sands" being sung in a song by one set of the supporters. Not 100% though on that. What song would or could they be singing?
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: redhugh on December 15, 2009, 08:11:02 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on December 15, 2009, 08:05:52 PM
Same when the Norn Iron fans were assaulted in an Irish bar in Slovakia. Makes you wonder.

Flicked over to the Rangers game earlier there, and thought I heard the words "Bobby Sands" being sung in a song by one set of the supporters. Not 100% though on that. What song would or could they be singing?

Their hilarious "could ye go a chicken supper Bobby Sands" probably. >:(
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: wallyman on December 15, 2009, 08:17:36 PM
Quote from: redhugh on December 15, 2009, 08:11:02 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on December 15, 2009, 08:05:52 PM
Same when the Norn Iron fans were assaulted in an Irish bar in Slovakia. Makes you wonder.

Flicked over to the Rangers game earlier there, and thought I heard the words "Bobby Sands" being sung in a song by one set of the supporters. Not 100% though on that. What song would or could they be singing?

Their hilarious "could ye go a chicken supper Bobby Sands" probably. >:(

think its a pastie supper!

the huns are on ss2 now, winning 1 nil
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: red hander on December 15, 2009, 08:37:15 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on December 15, 2009, 08:05:52 PM
Same when the Norn Iron fans were assaulted in an Irish bar in Slovakia. Makes you wonder.

Flicked over to the Rangers game earlier there, and thought I heard the words "Bobby Sands" being sung in a song by one set of the supporters. Not 100% though on that. What song would or could they be singing?

Assaulted my hole ... they removed a tricolour from the wall, the bar staff attempted to stop them, the bar staff were attacked and the bouncers weighed in to protect the bar staff, but the version we got was that two wee innocent huns from Fermanagh were beaten up for absolutely no reason
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Myles Na G. on December 15, 2009, 09:07:09 PM
Quote from: red hander on December 15, 2009, 08:37:15 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on December 15, 2009, 08:05:52 PM
Same when the Norn Iron fans were assaulted in an Irish bar in Slovakia. Makes you wonder.

Flicked over to the Rangers game earlier there, and thought I heard the words "Bobby Sands" being sung in a song by one set of the supporters. Not 100% though on that. What song would or could they be singing?

Assaulted my hole ... they removed a tricolour from the wall, the bar staff attempted to stop them, the bar staff were attacked and the bouncers weighed in to protect the bar staff, but the version we got was that two wee innocent huns from Fermanagh were beaten up for absolutely no reason
Wouldn't matter what version you got. In such circumstances, bigots like you make your own story up to fit in with your prejudices.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Rossfan on December 15, 2009, 09:08:13 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on December 15, 2009, 09:07:09 PM
Quote from: red hander on December 15, 2009, 08:37:15 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on December 15, 2009, 08:05:52 PM
Same when the Norn Iron fans were assaulted in an Irish bar in Slovakia. Makes you wonder.

Flicked over to the Rangers game earlier there, and thought I heard the words "Bobby Sands" being sung in a song by one set of the supporters. Not 100% though on that. What song would or could they be singing?

Assaulted my hole ... they removed a tricolour from the wall, the bar staff attempted to stop them, the bar staff were attacked and the bouncers weighed in to protect the bar staff, but the version we got was that two wee innocent huns from Fermanagh were beaten up for absolutely no reason
Wouldn't matter what version you got. In such circumstances, bigots like you make your own story up to fit in with your prejudices.

Pot....kettle....black
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: wallyman on December 15, 2009, 09:14:28 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on December 15, 2009, 09:07:09 PM
Quote from: red hander on December 15, 2009, 08:37:15 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on December 15, 2009, 08:05:52 PM
Same when the Norn Iron fans were assaulted in an Irish bar in Slovakia. Makes you wonder.

Flicked over to the Rangers game earlier there, and thought I heard the words "Bobby Sands" being sung in a song by one set of the supporters. Not 100% though on that. What song would or could they be singing?

Assaulted my hole ... they removed a tricolour from the wall, the bar staff attempted to stop them, the bar staff were attacked and the bouncers weighed in to protect the bar staff, but the version we got was that two wee innocent huns from Fermanagh were beaten up for absolutely no reason
Wouldn't matter what version you got. In such circumstances, bigots like you make your own story up to fit in with your prejudices.

you seem at home on this thread malcolm na g
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: red hander on December 15, 2009, 09:19:23 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on December 15, 2009, 09:07:09 PM
Quote from: red hander on December 15, 2009, 08:37:15 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on December 15, 2009, 08:05:52 PM
Same when the Norn Iron fans were assaulted in an Irish bar in Slovakia. Makes you wonder.

Flicked over to the Rangers game earlier there, and thought I heard the words "Bobby Sands" being sung in a song by one set of the supporters. Not 100% though on that. What song would or could they be singing?

Assaulted my hole ... they removed a tricolour from the wall, the bar staff attempted to stop them, the bar staff were attacked and the bouncers weighed in to protect the bar staff, but the version we got was that two wee innocent huns from Fermanagh were beaten up for absolutely no reason
Wouldn't matter what version you got. In such circumstances, bigots like you make your own story up to fit in with your prejudices.

On to pollute another thread I see.  FYI, it came from an OWC supporter who was in the bar when the thing happened ... so run along to wootoon bassett where you can wave your wee union jack to your heart's content
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Myles Na G. on December 15, 2009, 09:22:20 PM
Quote from: wallyman on December 15, 2009, 09:14:28 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on December 15, 2009, 09:07:09 PM
Quote from: red hander on December 15, 2009, 08:37:15 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on December 15, 2009, 08:05:52 PM
Same when the Norn Iron fans were assaulted in an Irish bar in Slovakia. Makes you wonder.

Flicked over to the Rangers game earlier there, and thought I heard the words "Bobby Sands" being sung in a song by one set of the supporters. Not 100% though on that. What song would or could they be singing?

Assaulted my hole ... they removed a tricolour from the wall, the bar staff attempted to stop them, the bar staff were attacked and the bouncers weighed in to protect the bar staff, but the version we got was that two wee innocent huns from Fermanagh were beaten up for absolutely no reason
Wouldn't matter what version you got. In such circumstances, bigots like you make your own story up to fit in with your prejudices.

you seem at home on this thread malcolm na g
Newbies, eh?
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Myles Na G. on December 15, 2009, 09:25:00 PM
Quote from: red hander on December 15, 2009, 09:19:23 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on December 15, 2009, 09:07:09 PM
Quote from: red hander on December 15, 2009, 08:37:15 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on December 15, 2009, 08:05:52 PM
Same when the Norn Iron fans were assaulted in an Irish bar in Slovakia. Makes you wonder.

Flicked over to the Rangers game earlier there, and thought I heard the words "Bobby Sands" being sung in a song by one set of the supporters. Not 100% though on that. What song would or could they be singing?

Assaulted my hole ... they removed a tricolour from the wall, the bar staff attempted to stop them, the bar staff were attacked and the bouncers weighed in to protect the bar staff, but the version we got was that two wee innocent huns from Fermanagh were beaten up for absolutely no reason
Wouldn't matter what version you got. In such circumstances, bigots like you make your own story up to fit in with your prejudices.

On to pollute another thread I see.  FYI, it came from an OWC supporter who was in the bar when the thing happened ... so run along to wootoon bassett where you can wave your wee union jack to your heart's content
Course it did.  :D
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: wallyman on December 15, 2009, 09:25:17 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on December 15, 2009, 09:22:20 PM
Quote from: wallyman on December 15, 2009, 09:14:28 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on December 15, 2009, 09:07:09 PM
Quote from: red hander on December 15, 2009, 08:37:15 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on December 15, 2009, 08:05:52 PM
Same when the Norn Iron fans were assaulted in an Irish bar in Slovakia. Makes you wonder.

Flicked over to the Rangers game earlier there, and thought I heard the words "Bobby Sands" being sung in a song by one set of the supporters. Not 100% though on that. What song would or could they be singing?

Assaulted my hole ... they removed a tricolour from the wall, the bar staff attempted to stop them, the bar staff were attacked and the bouncers weighed in to protect the bar staff, but the version we got was that two wee innocent huns from Fermanagh were beaten up for absolutely no reason
Wouldn't matter what version you got. In such circumstances, bigots like you make your own story up to fit in with your prejudices.

you seem at home on this thread malcolm na g
Newbies, eh?

Your problem is what malcolm?
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on December 15, 2009, 09:26:36 PM
Quote from: wallyman on December 15, 2009, 08:17:36 PM
Quote from: redhugh on December 15, 2009, 08:11:02 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on December 15, 2009, 08:05:52 PM
Same when the Norn Iron fans were assaulted in an Irish bar in Slovakia. Makes you wonder.

Flicked over to the Rangers game earlier there, and thought I heard the words "Bobby Sands" being sung in a song by one set of the supporters. Not 100% though on that. What song would or could they be singing?

Their hilarious "could ye go a chicken supper Bobby Sands" probably. >:(

think its a pastie supper!

the huns are on ss2 now, winning 1 nil

Er, no they're not. I'm here on my own.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: stew on December 15, 2009, 11:03:11 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on December 15, 2009, 09:07:09 PM
Quote from: red hander on December 15, 2009, 08:37:15 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on December 15, 2009, 08:05:52 PM
Same when the Norn Iron fans were assaulted in an Irish bar in Slovakia. Makes you wonder.

Flicked over to the Rangers game earlier there, and thought I heard the words "Bobby Sands" being sung in a song by one set of the supporters. Not 100% though on that. What song would or could they be singing?

Assaulted my hole ... they removed a tricolour from the wall, the bar staff attempted to stop them, the bar staff were attacked and the bouncers weighed in to protect the bar staff, but the version we got was that two wee innocent huns from Fermanagh were beaten up for absolutely no reason
Wouldn't matter what version you got. In such circumstances, bigots like you make your own story up to fit in with your prejudices.

Are you a bigot myles?

I would say that I would have to take the word of the bar staff over a bunch of knackers from the bogs of the black north and Glasgow, with them full of drink and all.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: T Fearon on December 15, 2009, 11:59:12 PM
At least all male huns fans go to away games with two testicles and return home with the same quantity! Now you can't say the same for North of Ireland fans ;D
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Myles Na G. on December 16, 2009, 06:35:53 PM
Quote from: stew on December 15, 2009, 11:03:11 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on December 15, 2009, 09:07:09 PM
Quote from: red hander on December 15, 2009, 08:37:15 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on December 15, 2009, 08:05:52 PM
Same when the Norn Iron fans were assaulted in an Irish bar in Slovakia. Makes you wonder.

Flicked over to the Rangers game earlier there, and thought I heard the words "Bobby Sands" being sung in a song by one set of the supporters. Not 100% though on that. What song would or could they be singing?

Assaulted my hole ... they removed a tricolour from the wall, the bar staff attempted to stop them, the bar staff were attacked and the bouncers weighed in to protect the bar staff, but the version we got was that two wee innocent huns from Fermanagh were beaten up for absolutely no reason
Wouldn't matter what version you got. In such circumstances, bigots like you make your own story up to fit in with your prejudices.

Are you a bigot myles?

I would say that I would have to take the word of the bar staff over a bunch of knackers from the bogs of the black north and Glasgow, with them full of drink and all.
I wasn't in The Dubliner when the incident happened, but then neither were any of those who post on here with all the authority of eyewitnesses. I do know that the bar in question has a reputation for this kind of thing. Indeed, some republic supporters had difficulties in the place the previous year when they played there. Also, if you google it, you come across this kind of thing.
http://www.ratepubs.com/pub/23/general.htm
I also know two lads who were in the bar at the time, both of whom I'd trust to give a fair account. They told me there was a bit of singing before the security firm waded in, but nothing to justify the severity of the beating some of the NI fans took. Put that together and you get a picture of an unprovoked assault by a bunch of thugs on a group of football fans having a good time. Yet a few bigots on here want to believe a different story, because it fits better with their own prejudiced view of NI supporters. Am I a bigot? I hope not, but if you've any evidence to the contrary, put it out there.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: wallyman on December 16, 2009, 06:41:41 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on December 15, 2009, 11:59:12 PM
At least all male huns fans go to away games with two testicles and return home with the same quantity! Now you can't say the same for North of Ireland fans ;D

??
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: T Fearon on December 16, 2009, 07:32:48 PM
Lat year, at least one male North of Ireland fan came home from Slovakia with one testicle less than he went out with ;D
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: wallyman on December 16, 2009, 07:34:08 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on December 16, 2009, 07:32:48 PM
Lat year, at least one male North of Ireland fan came home from Slovakia with one testicle less than he went out with ;D

and how would you know that.....was it you?!!
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Evil Genius on December 16, 2009, 08:25:18 PM
Quote from: red hander on December 15, 2009, 09:19:23 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on December 15, 2009, 09:07:09 PM
Quote from: red hander on December 15, 2009, 08:37:15 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on December 15, 2009, 08:05:52 PM
Same when the Norn Iron fans were assaulted in an Irish bar in Slovakia. Makes you wonder.

Flicked over to the Rangers game earlier there, and thought I heard the words "Bobby Sands" being sung in a song by one set of the supporters. Not 100% though on that. What song would or could they be singing?

Assaulted my hole ... they removed a tricolour from the wall, the bar staff attempted to stop them, the bar staff were attacked and the bouncers weighed in to protect the bar staff, but the version we got was that two wee innocent huns from Fermanagh were beaten up for absolutely no reason
Wouldn't matter what version you got. In such circumstances, bigots like you make your own story up to fit in with your prejudices.

FYI, it came from an OWC supporter who was in the bar when the thing happened

I don't believe  a word of that, Red Hander, since I was in Bratislava myself and spoke to fans who were in the pub at the time. I trust their word over yours, never mind that of your (fictitious) "OWC mate" any day.
Of course, I don't expect you or like-minded individuals to take my word for this, so I've followed up some references (alluded to by MnaG above) from foot.ie, an ROI soccer fans' website.

To put this into context, the ROI played a game in Bratislava the year before the NI game. Prior/subsequent to the ROI game, and again prior to the NI game, ROI fans were warning, from personal experience, of the dangers of "The Dubliner" bar (or more accurately its doorstaff), as follows.

Prior to the ROI Game
1. "Citizenerased" on 09/08/07:
Hi all, I have just returned from Bratislava yesterday the 07 August 2007, I went on a stag party with my friends for the august weekend...            ...however I have one small problem, as I sit here writing this I am finding it difficult to see out through my eyes as I was severely assaulted on my last night there, I went to the hospital yesterday where I received four stitches to my nose as a result of the assault.
It happened in the Dubliner Irish Pub(I am Irish by the way), I would urge any man thinking of going over there not too, I was dragged downstairs in the pub by what I can only describe as two (security staff) ex army men, huge from steroids and crazy from drugs towards a very dark room where they proceeded to kick the crap out of me, I managed to break free and a friend of mine spotted me, he had been looking for me for ten minutes, he was kicked away as he tried to intervene, then he raised the alarm.
2. "Soylent Green" on 20/08/07:
Not to get people too worried but I got the following warning from my cousin living in Slovakia:
"Avoid police and nightclub staff. Bratislava is NOT a place to get into a situation at night. You can get mugged easily by the bouncers believe me. Old trick your mates get in,someone gets hit and a large drinks bill is presented to you as a way out. Anyway worst case syndrome but it does happen"
3. "KoemansCC" on 21/08/97:
one common thing I've seen on all sites/forums is regarding the Dubliner pub...not friendly, over priced, over zealous doormen...
4. "Mento" on 21/08/07:
Hviezdoslavovo square the place to be and stay away from Dubliner

After the ROI Game:
5. "Zinedineontour" on 14/09/07:
Got to agree with all the comments thought Bratislava was a bit of a kip and the bars and restaurants didnt want the service and i wont even start about the dubliner "irish " bar with the 8 bouncers outside !
6. "Piggy" on 14/09/07:
I thought Bratislave was the biggest sh*t hole i ever had the misfortune of being in! Apart from the fact that we got attacked by a couple of thugs and the bouncers on friday night i just thought the attitude of the people was terrible. The staff in the pubs were ****ed off because the place was so busy and they didnt give a **** about service.
The police were also a disaster. They didnt care that we had been attacked and refused to give us their names or numbers so we could follow up. Sorted that problem by taking pictures of their badges with my phone.
My buddy is off to A&E this morning to get his broken nose fixed. The third world A&E in bratislava couldnt be bothered!
7. "upkerry" on 14/09/07:
Lads from the offset the locals had no regard for the Irish. Unfriendly, unhelpful and only out for the quick buck. As for the so called Irish pubs. The Dubliner had what I could only call several thugs on the door. I was lucky enough not to have any problems but I saw many decent Irish fans turned away or evicted for nothing including several elderly supporters.
8. "Rogue Trader" on 18/09/07:
i never encountered this poor local attitude in Bratislava except in that bloody Dubliner pub(Which i avoided after what i seen was on the Door).
9. "Neil McD" on 18/09/07:
Again Bratislava was great craic as long as you stayed away from the Dubliner which I thought was a shocker of a bar.

Before the NI game:
10. "GUFCT" on 29/08/08:
(Hope you don't get the torrential rain we had last year) or the gestapo bouncers.Stay far away from the Dubliner Bar by far the biggest bunch of thugs i have ever come across in all my travels.

After the NI game:
11. "Bottle of Tonic" on 08/09/08:
I see some of the NI fans took a batein in the Dubliner bar in Bratislava. (bbc website) Having been there this time last year i'm not surprised. They had four heavies kitted out in army gear as bouncers and wouldn't let any of us in when the place was only half full. Total cants.


That is just a selection, gleaned after a perfunctory search. Of course, I suppose it is just possible that all those ROI fans were involved in removing Union Jacks and singing Loyalist songs etc, but I doubt it. Or I could just be making it all up*.

However, I prefer the explanation which subsequently emerged from a conversation between an NI fan and a local contact in Slovakia, who explained that most of the "Security" Firms who provide doorstaff for Bratislava pubs and clubs etc are owned by organised crime. As such, they are actually operating protection rackets against the owners of these venues, and periodically make a display of "muscle" to keep the owners intimidated. Apparently football fans make as good a victim of this muscle as any. Certainly, the thugs who attacked the NI fans were all dressed alike in black, military clothing, with baseball bats and knuckle-dusters etc.

* - I've often wondered how myths such as eg NI fans being the cause of the violence in Bratislava, rather than the victims etc emerge. I used to attribute it to misunderstandings and exagerration and so on. But from this particular thread, I see that at least some derive from malicious liars simply making things up, to suit some bigoted agenda... >:(
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on December 16, 2009, 08:34:05 PM
unlike you to make up a story enid !!


does this go for the rangers fans too ?
or are they being 'lied about' as well ?? :D

rem that there are a hell of a lot of rangers/ni fans !!
;)
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Evil Genius on December 16, 2009, 08:42:48 PM
Quote from: wallyman on December 16, 2009, 07:34:08 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on December 16, 2009, 07:32:48 PM
Lat year, at least one male North of Ireland fan came home from Slovakia with one testicle less than he went out with ;D

and how would you know that.....was it you?!!
To recap, Wallyman, when a gang of thugs masquerading as "security" staff launched an unprovoked attack on a group of Irish sports fans, several received serious injuries, including one who lost a testicle.

Most decent people would sympathise with such victims, especially other Irish sports fans. But because this particular incident involved Northern Irish sports fans, Fearon thinks it appropriate to make tasteless (and unfunny) "jokes" about it.

We should not be surprised; after all, in the past he has given us the benefit of his "humour" with comments upon Sir David Murray (ex-Rangers Chairman), who lost both his legs in a car crash. Still, I wonder should Fearon ever have the misfortune to lose a limb himself etc, would he have the brass neck to seek the assistance of this lot:
http://www.murray-foundation.org.uk/
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on December 16, 2009, 08:47:59 PM
ah yes the good old murry foundation - that more than makes up for the allowing and actual active encouragement of blatant sectarianism at rangers fc !!  ::)
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Evil Genius on December 16, 2009, 08:49:29 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on December 16, 2009, 08:34:05 PM
unlike you to make up a story enid !!
I  didn't make any of it up - I can cite references for each quotation I gave - unlike "Red Hander".

Quote from: lynchbhoy on December 16, 2009, 08:34:05 PM
does this go for the rangers fans too ?
or are they being 'lied about' as well ?? :D
No idea, I'm not a Rangers fan, nor haven't ever attended one of their games.

Quote from: lynchbhoy on December 16, 2009, 08:34:05 PM
rem that there are a hell of a lot of rangers/ni fans !!
;)
So? I know of three NI fans who also support Celtic.

Btw, was there any point to your post? Or is it just another instance of one of your "Pavlovian" responses, whereby you cannot help yourself from posting something every time you see my name, even if (as above), it is utter garbage?  ::)



Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Myles Na G. on December 16, 2009, 08:52:34 PM
Quote from: Evil Genius on December 16, 2009, 08:25:18 PM
Quote from: red hander on December 15, 2009, 09:19:23 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on December 15, 2009, 09:07:09 PM
Quote from: red hander on December 15, 2009, 08:37:15 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on December 15, 2009, 08:05:52 PM
Same when the Norn Iron fans were assaulted in an Irish bar in Slovakia. Makes you wonder.

Flicked over to the Rangers game earlier there, and thought I heard the words "Bobby Sands" being sung in a song by one set of the supporters. Not 100% though on that. What song would or could they be singing?

Assaulted my hole ... they removed a tricolour from the wall, the bar staff attempted to stop them, the bar staff were attacked and the bouncers weighed in to protect the bar staff, but the version we got was that two wee innocent huns from Fermanagh were beaten up for absolutely no reason
Wouldn't matter what version you got. In such circumstances, bigots like you make your own story up to fit in with your prejudices.

FYI, it came from an OWC supporter who was in the bar when the thing happened

I don't believe  a word of that, Red Hander, since I was in Bratislava myself and spoke to fans who were in the pub at the time. I trust their word over yours, never mind that of your (fictitious) "OWC mate" any day.
Of course, I don't expect you or like-minded individuals to take my word for this, so I've followed up some references (alluded to by MnaG above) from foot.ie, an ROI soccer fans' website.

To put this into context, the ROI played a game in Bratislava the year before the NI game. Prior/subsequent to the ROI game, and again prior to the NI game, ROI fans were warning, from personal experience, of the dangers of "The Dubliner" bar (or more accurately its doorstaff), as follows.

Prior to the ROI Game
1. "Citizenerased" on 09/08/07:
Hi all, I have just returned from Bratislava yesterday the 07 August 2007, I went on a stag party with my friends for the august weekend...            ...however I have one small problem, as I sit here writing this I am finding it difficult to see out through my eyes as I was severely assaulted on my last night there, I went to the hospital yesterday where I received four stitches to my nose as a result of the assault.
It happened in the Dubliner Irish Pub(I am Irish by the way), I would urge any man thinking of going over there not too, I was dragged downstairs in the pub by what I can only describe as two (security staff) ex army men, huge from steroids and crazy from drugs towards a very dark room where they proceeded to kick the crap out of me, I managed to break free and a friend of mine spotted me, he had been looking for me for ten minutes, he was kicked away as he tried to intervene, then he raised the alarm.
2. "Soylent Green" on 20/08/07:
Not to get people too worried but I got the following warning from my cousin living in Slovakia:
"Avoid police and nightclub staff. Bratislava is NOT a place to get into a situation at night. You can get mugged easily by the bouncers believe me. Old trick your mates get in,someone gets hit and a large drinks bill is presented to you as a way out. Anyway worst case syndrome but it does happen"
3. "KoemansCC" on 21/08/97:
one common thing I've seen on all sites/forums is regarding the Dubliner pub...not friendly, over priced, over zealous doormen...
4. "Mento" on 21/08/07:
Hviezdoslavovo square the place to be and stay away from Dubliner

After the ROI Game:
5. "Zinedineontour" on 14/09/07:
Got to agree with all the comments thought Bratislava was a bit of a kip and the bars and restaurants didnt want the service and i wont even start about the dubliner "irish " bar with the 8 bouncers outside !
6. "Piggy" on 14/09/07:
I thought Bratislave was the biggest sh*t hole i ever had the misfortune of being in! Apart from the fact that we got attacked by a couple of thugs and the bouncers on friday night i just thought the attitude of the people was terrible. The staff in the pubs were ****ed off because the place was so busy and they didnt give a **** about service.
The police were also a disaster. They didnt care that we had been attacked and refused to give us their names or numbers so we could follow up. Sorted that problem by taking pictures of their badges with my phone.
My buddy is off to A&E this morning to get his broken nose fixed. The third world A&E in bratislava couldnt be bothered!
7. "upkerry" on 14/09/07:
Lads from the offset the locals had no regard for the Irish. Unfriendly, unhelpful and only out for the quick buck. As for the so called Irish pubs. The Dubliner had what I could only call several thugs on the door. I was lucky enough not to have any problems but I saw many decent Irish fans turned away or evicted for nothing including several elderly supporters.
8. "Rogue Trader" on 18/09/07:
i never encountered this poor local attitude in Bratislava except in that bloody Dubliner pub(Which i avoided after what i seen was on the Door).
9. "Neil McD" on 18/09/07:
Again Bratislava was great craic as long as you stayed away from the Dubliner which I thought was a shocker of a bar.

Before the NI game:
10. "GUFCT" on 29/08/08:
(Hope you don't get the torrential rain we had last year) or the gestapo bouncers.Stay far away from the Dubliner Bar by far the biggest bunch of thugs i have ever come across in all my travels.

After the NI game:
11. "Bottle of Tonic" on 08/09/08:
I see some of the NI fans took a batein in the Dubliner bar in Bratislava. (bbc website) Having been there this time last year i'm not surprised. They had four heavies kitted out in army gear as bouncers and wouldn't let any of us in when the place was only half full. Total cants.


That is just a selection, gleaned after a perfunctory search. Of course, I suppose it is just possible that all those ROI fans were involved in removing Union Jacks and singing Loyalist songs etc, but I doubt it. Or I could just be making it all up*.

However, I prefer the explanation which subsequently emerged from a conversation between an NI fan and a local contact in Slovakia, who explained that most of the "Security" Firms who provide doorstaff for Bratislava pubs and clubs etc are owned by organised crime. As such, they are actually operating protection rackets against the owners of these venues, and periodically make a display of "muscle" to keep the owners intimidated. Apparently football fans make as good a victim of this muscle as any. Certainly, the thugs who attacked the NI fans were all dressed alike in black, military clothing, with baseball bats and knuckle-dusters etc.

* - I've often wondered how myths such as eg NI fans being the cause of the violence in Bratislava, rather than the victims etc emerge. I used to attribute it to misunderstandings and exagerration and so on. But from this particular thread, I see that at least some derive from malicious liars simply making things up, to suit some bigoted agenda... >:(
Good post EG - what I was trying to say, only with better research!
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: wallyman on December 16, 2009, 08:53:27 PM
Quote from: Evil Genius on December 16, 2009, 08:42:48 PM
Quote from: wallyman on December 16, 2009, 07:34:08 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on December 16, 2009, 07:32:48 PM
Lat year, at least one male North of Ireland fan came home from Slovakia with one testicle less than he went out with ;D

and how would you know that.....was it you?!!
To recap, Wallyman, when a gang of thugs masquerading as "security" staff launched an unprovoked attack on a group of Irish sports fans, several received serious injuries, including one who lost a testicle.

Most decent people would sympathise with such victims, especially other Irish sports fans. But because this particular incident involved Northern Irish sports fans, Fearon thinks it appropriate to make tasteless (and unfunny) "jokes" about it.

We should not be surprised; after all, in the past he has given us the benefit of his "humour" with comments upon Sir David Murray (ex-Rangers Chairman), who lost both his legs in a car crash. Still, I wonder should Fearon ever have the misfortune to lose a limb himself etc, would he have the brass neck to seek the assistance of this lot:
http://www.murray-foundation.org.uk/

Wowww mr genius...way ott response, i was merely asking tony fearon was he in bratislava. Obv tony fearon has 'got on your goat' so to speak. Maybe you should seek to resolve your issues with him directly rather than polluting the board.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on December 16, 2009, 08:58:32 PM
Quote from: Evil Genius on December 16, 2009, 08:49:29 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on December 16, 2009, 08:34:05 PM
unlike you to make up a story enid !!
I  didn't make any of it up - I can cite references for each quotation I gave - unlike "Red Hander".

Quote from: lynchbhoy on December 16, 2009, 08:34:05 PM
does this go for the rangers fans too ?
or are they being 'lied about' as well ?? :D
No idea, I'm not a Rangers fan, nor haven't ever attended one of their games.

Quote from: lynchbhoy on December 16, 2009, 08:34:05 PM
rem that there are a hell of a lot of rangers/ni fans !!
;)
So? I know of three NI fans who also support Celtic.

Btw, was there any point to your post? Or is it just another instance of one of your "Pavlovian" responses, whereby you cannot help yourself from posting something every time you see my name, even if (as above), it is utter garbage?  ::)
nope , just when you went off topic again (as per usual - no content to your rantings !!), I wondered did you know about rangers/ni fans who did act in a scurrilous manner.
I have seen this with my own eyes, though as it was some years ago I'd hope they were all locked up by now...
just wondering if you had the decency to condemn these as well....obv you dont have - quelle surprise !

you often 'back up' your stories with completely makey uppy soutrces - like wikipedia, the discredited cain report and other 'eye witness' sightings as per your list of fables above.

I actually dont know what is true or not regarding the 'dubliner incident' as your sources are not really trustworthy. I would not doubt that the bouncers are heavy handed - the rest I'd say is a little from column a and also column b !!

anyhow, keep up the good works of fiction...always amusing when we see you veering off topic with long contentless pieces to deflect or equalise yet again !
:D
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: T Fearon on December 16, 2009, 09:00:47 PM
Whatever the problems the fact remains that North of Ireland fans do have a capacity, much like Kate Adie, of being present in troible hotspots, eg Bratislava, in Belfast with rioting Poles etc.


They are certainy not the poor innocent bystanders EG would have us think
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Myles Na G. on December 16, 2009, 09:05:03 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on December 16, 2009, 09:00:47 PM
Whatever the problems the fact remains that North of Ireland fans do have a capacity, much like Kate Adie, of being present in troible hotspots, eg Bratislava, in Belfast with rioting Poles etc.


They are certainy not the poor innocent bystanders EG would have us think
Where do you expect NI fans to be if not in Belfast? Do you condemn RoI fans for being in Dublin some years ago when England fans rioted?
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on December 16, 2009, 09:07:54 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on December 16, 2009, 09:05:03 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on December 16, 2009, 09:00:47 PM
Whatever the problems the fact remains that North of Ireland fans do have a capacity, much like Kate Adie, of being present in troible hotspots, eg Bratislava, in Belfast with rioting Poles etc.


They are certainy not the poor innocent bystanders EG would have us think
Where do you expect NI fans to be if not in Belfast? Do you condemn RoI fans for being in Dublin some years ago when England fans rioted?
did the Irish fans retaliate in the same manner as the ni fans did ?
I cant remember that !!
::)
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Myles Na G. on December 16, 2009, 09:11:09 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on December 16, 2009, 09:07:54 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on December 16, 2009, 09:05:03 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on December 16, 2009, 09:00:47 PM
Whatever the problems the fact remains that North of Ireland fans do have a capacity, much like Kate Adie, of being present in troible hotspots, eg Bratislava, in Belfast with rioting Poles etc.


They are certainy not the poor innocent bystanders EG would have us think
Where do you expect NI fans to be if not in Belfast? Do you condemn RoI fans for being in Dublin some years ago when England fans rioted?
did the Irish fans retaliate in the same manner as the ni fans did ?
I cant remember that !!
::)
So you agree that the Poles initiated the violence? That's progress, I suppose.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on December 16, 2009, 09:31:44 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on December 16, 2009, 09:11:09 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on December 16, 2009, 09:07:54 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on December 16, 2009, 09:05:03 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on December 16, 2009, 09:00:47 PM
Whatever the problems the fact remains that North of Ireland fans do have a capacity, much like Kate Adie, of being present in troible hotspots, eg Bratislava, in Belfast with rioting Poles etc.


They are certainy not the poor innocent bystanders EG would have us think
Where do you expect NI fans to be if not in Belfast? Do you condemn RoI fans for being in Dublin some years ago when England fans rioted?
did the Irish fans retaliate in the same manner as the ni fans did ?
I cant remember that !!
::)
So you agree that the Poles initiated the violence? That's progress, I suppose.
how so - the originators of this were not in question (apart from maybe the voices in yer head !!)
would look like they started some of it, but who knows, cant rely on tv/media reports...
either way there was a disturbing desire to fight among the ifa contingent that the Irish fans didnt have when under worse provocation in lansdowne road.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Myles Na G. on December 16, 2009, 09:35:38 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on December 16, 2009, 09:31:44 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on December 16, 2009, 09:11:09 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on December 16, 2009, 09:07:54 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on December 16, 2009, 09:05:03 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on December 16, 2009, 09:00:47 PM
Whatever the problems the fact remains that North of Ireland fans do have a capacity, much like Kate Adie, of being present in troible hotspots, eg Bratislava, in Belfast with rioting Poles etc.


They are certainy not the poor innocent bystanders EG would have us think
Where do you expect NI fans to be if not in Belfast? Do you condemn RoI fans for being in Dublin some years ago when England fans rioted?
did the Irish fans retaliate in the same manner as the ni fans did ?
I cant remember that !!
::)
So you agree that the Poles initiated the violence? That's progress, I suppose.
how so - the originators of this were not in question (apart from maybe the voices in yer head !!)
would look like they started some of it, but who knows, cant rely on tv/media reports...
either way there was a disturbing desire to fight among the ifa contingent that the Irish fans didnt have when under worse provocation in lansdowne road.
Different circumstances altogether. The English lot didn't kick off until they were in the ground, at which point the guards made sure there was no way the Irish could get involved. Might've been a different story if the trouble had started in pubs in the city centre.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: wallyman on December 16, 2009, 09:40:17 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on December 16, 2009, 09:35:38 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on December 16, 2009, 09:31:44 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on December 16, 2009, 09:11:09 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on December 16, 2009, 09:07:54 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on December 16, 2009, 09:05:03 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on December 16, 2009, 09:00:47 PM
Whatever the problems the fact remains that North of Ireland fans do have a capacity, much like Kate Adie, of being present in troible hotspots, eg Bratislava, in Belfast with rioting Poles etc.


They are certainy not the poor innocent bystanders EG would have us think
Where do you expect NI fans to be if not in Belfast? Do you condemn RoI fans for being in Dublin some years ago when England fans rioted?
did the Irish fans retaliate in the same manner as the ni fans did ?
I cant remember that !!
::)
So you agree that the Poles initiated the violence? That's progress, I suppose.
how so - the originators of this were not in question (apart from maybe the voices in yer head !!)
would look like they started some of it, but who knows, cant rely on tv/media reports...
either way there was a disturbing desire to fight among the ifa contingent that the Irish fans didnt have when under worse provocation in lansdowne road.
Different circumstances altogether. The English lot didn't kick off until they were in the ground, at which point the guards made sure there was no way the Irish could get involved. Might've been a different story if the trouble had started in pubs in the city centre.

:D Whataboutery at its very best!
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Puckoon on December 16, 2009, 09:43:02 PM
Quote from: wallyman on December 16, 2009, 09:40:17 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on December 16, 2009, 09:35:38 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on December 16, 2009, 09:31:44 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on December 16, 2009, 09:11:09 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on December 16, 2009, 09:07:54 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on December 16, 2009, 09:05:03 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on December 16, 2009, 09:00:47 PM
Whatever the problems the fact remains that North of Ireland fans do have a capacity, much like Kate Adie, of being present in troible hotspots, eg Bratislava, in Belfast with rioting Poles etc.


They are certainy not the poor innocent bystanders EG would have us think
Where do you expect NI fans to be if not in Belfast? Do you condemn RoI fans for being in Dublin some years ago when England fans rioted?
did the Irish fans retaliate in the same manner as the ni fans did ?
I cant remember that !!
::)
So you agree that the Poles initiated the violence? That's progress, I suppose.
how so - the originators of this were not in question (apart from maybe the voices in yer head !!)
would look like they started some of it, but who knows, cant rely on tv/media reports...
either way there was a disturbing desire to fight among the ifa contingent that the Irish fans didnt have when under worse provocation in lansdowne road.
Different circumstances altogether. The English lot didn't kick off until they were in the ground, at which point the guards made sure there was no way the Irish could get involved. Might've been a different story if the trouble had started in pubs in the city centre.

:D Whataboutery at its very best!

Perhaps, but Im inclined to agree.

What do you think would happen if English fans caused trouble in Dublin before a game?

Would ROI fans just ignore it?

The fact that the English fans were segregated to a degree in Landsdowne that day saved a lot of trouble I think.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Myles Na G. on December 16, 2009, 09:44:30 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 16, 2009, 09:42:34 PM
Quote from: wallyman on December 16, 2009, 09:40:17 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on December 16, 2009, 09:35:38 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on December 16, 2009, 09:31:44 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on December 16, 2009, 09:11:09 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on December 16, 2009, 09:07:54 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on December 16, 2009, 09:05:03 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on December 16, 2009, 09:00:47 PM
Whatever the problems the fact remains that North of Ireland fans do have a capacity, much like Kate Adie, of being present in troible hotspots, eg Bratislava, in Belfast with rioting Poles etc.


They are certainy not the poor innocent bystanders EG would have us think
Where do you expect NI fans to be if not in Belfast? Do you condemn RoI fans for being in Dublin some years ago when England fans rioted?
did the Irish fans retaliate in the same manner as the ni fans did ?
I cant remember that !!
::)
So you agree that the Poles initiated the violence? That's progress, I suppose.
how so - the originators of this were not in question (apart from maybe the voices in yer head !!)
would look like they started some of it, but who knows, cant rely on tv/media reports...
either way there was a disturbing desire to fight among the ifa contingent that the Irish fans didnt have when under worse provocation in lansdowne road.
Different circumstances altogether. The English lot didn't kick off until they were in the ground, at which point the guards made sure there was no way the Irish could get involved. Might've been a different story if the trouble had started in pubs in the city centre.

:D Whataboutery at its very best!
Is that 'whataboutery'?
Might'vebeenery, surely?
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: wallyman on December 16, 2009, 09:48:56 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on December 16, 2009, 09:44:30 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 16, 2009, 09:42:34 PM
Quote from: wallyman on December 16, 2009, 09:40:17 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on December 16, 2009, 09:35:38 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on December 16, 2009, 09:31:44 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on December 16, 2009, 09:11:09 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on December 16, 2009, 09:07:54 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on December 16, 2009, 09:05:03 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on December 16, 2009, 09:00:47 PM
Whatever the problems the fact remains that North of Ireland fans do have a capacity, much like Kate Adie, of being present in troible hotspots, eg Bratislava, in Belfast with rioting Poles etc.


They are certainy not the poor innocent bystanders EG would have us think
Where do you expect NI fans to be if not in Belfast? Do you condemn RoI fans for being in Dublin some years ago when England fans rioted?
did the Irish fans retaliate in the same manner as the ni fans did ?
I cant remember that !!
::)
So you agree that the Poles initiated the violence? That's progress, I suppose.
how so - the originators of this were not in question (apart from maybe the voices in yer head !!)
would look like they started some of it, but who knows, cant rely on tv/media reports...
either way there was a disturbing desire to fight among the ifa contingent that the Irish fans didnt have when under worse provocation in lansdowne road.
Different circumstances altogether. The English lot didn't kick off until they were in the ground, at which point the guards made sure there was no way the Irish could get involved. Might've been a different story if the trouble had started in pubs in the city centre.

:D Whataboutery at its very best!
Is that 'whataboutery'?
Might'vebeenery, surely?

or 'completely off topic, but il change the subject because im under pressure!!'
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on December 17, 2009, 04:15:41 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on December 16, 2009, 09:35:38 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on December 16, 2009, 09:31:44 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on December 16, 2009, 09:11:09 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on December 16, 2009, 09:07:54 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on December 16, 2009, 09:05:03 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on December 16, 2009, 09:00:47 PM
Whatever the problems the fact remains that North of Ireland fans do have a capacity, much like Kate Adie, of being present in troible hotspots, eg Bratislava, in Belfast with rioting Poles etc.
They are certainy not the poor innocent bystanders EG would have us think
Where do you expect NI fans to be if not in Belfast? Do you condemn RoI fans for being in Dublin some years ago when England fans rioted?
did the Irish fans retaliate in the same manner as the ni fans did ?
I cant remember that !!
::)
So you agree that the Poles initiated the violence? That's progress, I suppose.
how so - the originators of this were not in question (apart from maybe the voices in yer head !!)
would look like they started some of it, but who knows, cant rely on tv/media reports...
either way there was a disturbing desire to fight among the ifa contingent that the Irish fans didnt have when under worse provocation in lansdowne road.
Different circumstances altogether. The English lot didn't kick off until they were in the ground, at which point the guards made sure there was no way the Irish could get involved. Might've been a different story if the trouble had started in pubs in the city centre.
not different circumstances at all...
plenty of opportunity for the Irish fans who would have seen it on the telly to also come out and have a go at the english hooligans if they were so inclined - but thats the point ....they were not and in contrary to the ni fans who were.
my point stands.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: T Fearon on December 17, 2009, 04:44:01 PM
I was in the West Stand at Lansdowne that night. The first instinct of myself and very other fan was to get out of Dodge  pronto. Some mght call us cowards, but I myself knew the Garda would sort it out with the old batons ;D
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: red hander on December 17, 2009, 04:55:38 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on December 16, 2009, 08:52:34 PM
Quote from: Evil Genius on December 16, 2009, 08:25:18 PM
Quote from: red hander on December 15, 2009, 09:19:23 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on December 15, 2009, 09:07:09 PM
Quote from: red hander on December 15, 2009, 08:37:15 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on December 15, 2009, 08:05:52 PM
Same when the Norn Iron fans were assaulted in an Irish bar in Slovakia. Makes you wonder.

Flicked over to the Rangers game earlier there, and thought I heard the words "Bobby Sands" being sung in a song by one set of the supporters. Not 100% though on that. What song would or could they be singing?

Assaulted my hole ... they removed a tricolour from the wall, the bar staff attempted to stop them, the bar staff were attacked and the bouncers weighed in to protect the bar staff, but the version we got was that two wee innocent huns from Fermanagh were beaten up for absolutely no reason
Wouldn't matter what version you got. In such circumstances, bigots like you make your own story up to fit in with your prejudices.

FYI, it came from an OWC supporter who was in the bar when the thing happened

I don't believe  a word of that, Red Hander, since I was in Bratislava myself and spoke to fans who were in the pub at the time. I trust their word over yours, never mind that of your (fictitious) "OWC mate" any day.
Of course, I don't expect you or like-minded individuals to take my word for this, so I've followed up some references (alluded to by MnaG above) from foot.ie, an ROI soccer fans' website.

To put this into context, the ROI played a game in Bratislava the year before the NI game. Prior/subsequent to the ROI game, and again prior to the NI game, ROI fans were warning, from personal experience, of the dangers of "The Dubliner" bar (or more accurately its doorstaff), as follows.

Prior to the ROI Game
1. "Citizenerased" on 09/08/07:
Hi all, I have just returned from Bratislava yesterday the 07 August 2007, I went on a stag party with my friends for the august weekend...            ...however I have one small problem, as I sit here writing this I am finding it difficult to see out through my eyes as I was severely assaulted on my last night there, I went to the hospital yesterday where I received four stitches to my nose as a result of the assault.
It happened in the Dubliner Irish Pub(I am Irish by the way), I would urge any man thinking of going over there not too, I was dragged downstairs in the pub by what I can only describe as two (security staff) ex army men, huge from steroids and crazy from drugs towards a very dark room where they proceeded to kick the crap out of me, I managed to break free and a friend of mine spotted me, he had been looking for me for ten minutes, he was kicked away as he tried to intervene, then he raised the alarm.
2. "Soylent Green" on 20/08/07:
Not to get people too worried but I got the following warning from my cousin living in Slovakia:
"Avoid police and nightclub staff. Bratislava is NOT a place to get into a situation at night. You can get mugged easily by the bouncers believe me. Old trick your mates get in,someone gets hit and a large drinks bill is presented to you as a way out. Anyway worst case syndrome but it does happen"
3. "KoemansCC" on 21/08/97:
one common thing I've seen on all sites/forums is regarding the Dubliner pub...not friendly, over priced, over zealous doormen...
4. "Mento" on 21/08/07:
Hviezdoslavovo square the place to be and stay away from Dubliner

After the ROI Game:
5. "Zinedineontour" on 14/09/07:
Got to agree with all the comments thought Bratislava was a bit of a kip and the bars and restaurants didnt want the service and i wont even start about the dubliner "irish " bar with the 8 bouncers outside !
6. "Piggy" on 14/09/07:
I thought Bratislave was the biggest sh*t hole i ever had the misfortune of being in! Apart from the fact that we got attacked by a couple of thugs and the bouncers on friday night i just thought the attitude of the people was terrible. The staff in the pubs were ****ed off because the place was so busy and they didnt give a **** about service.
The police were also a disaster. They didnt care that we had been attacked and refused to give us their names or numbers so we could follow up. Sorted that problem by taking pictures of their badges with my phone.
My buddy is off to A&E this morning to get his broken nose fixed. The third world A&E in bratislava couldnt be bothered!
7. "upkerry" on 14/09/07:
Lads from the offset the locals had no regard for the Irish. Unfriendly, unhelpful and only out for the quick buck. As for the so called Irish pubs. The Dubliner had what I could only call several thugs on the door. I was lucky enough not to have any problems but I saw many decent Irish fans turned away or evicted for nothing including several elderly supporters.
8. "Rogue Trader" on 18/09/07:
i never encountered this poor local attitude in Bratislava except in that bloody Dubliner pub(Which i avoided after what i seen was on the Door).
9. "Neil McD" on 18/09/07:
Again Bratislava was great craic as long as you stayed away from the Dubliner which I thought was a shocker of a bar.

Before the NI game:
10. "GUFCT" on 29/08/08:
(Hope you don't get the torrential rain we had last year) or the gestapo bouncers.Stay far away from the Dubliner Bar by far the biggest bunch of thugs i have ever come across in all my travels.

After the NI game:
11. "Bottle of Tonic" on 08/09/08:
I see some of the NI fans took a batein in the Dubliner bar in Bratislava. (bbc website) Having been there this time last year i'm not surprised. They had four heavies kitted out in army gear as bouncers and wouldn't let any of us in when the place was only half full. Total cants.


That is just a selection, gleaned after a perfunctory search. Of course, I suppose it is just possible that all those ROI fans were involved in removing Union Jacks and singing Loyalist songs etc, but I doubt it. Or I could just be making it all up*.

However, I prefer the explanation which subsequently emerged from a conversation between an NI fan and a local contact in Slovakia, who explained that most of the "Security" Firms who provide doorstaff for Bratislava pubs and clubs etc are owned by organised crime. As such, they are actually operating protection rackets against the owners of these venues, and periodically make a display of "muscle" to keep the owners intimidated. Apparently football fans make as good a victim of this muscle as any. Certainly, the thugs who attacked the NI fans were all dressed alike in black, military clothing, with baseball bats and knuckle-dusters etc.

* - I've often wondered how myths such as eg NI fans being the cause of the violence in Bratislava, rather than the victims etc emerge. I used to attribute it to misunderstandings and exagerration and so on. But from this particular thread, I see that at least some derive from malicious liars simply making things up, to suit some bigoted agenda... >:(
Good post EG - what I was trying to say, only with better research!

Why don't you bend him over and rim him...

All that guff (as usual) EG comes up with doesn't have a thing to do with what sparked the trouble on that particular day and is all circumstantial bullshit.  Neither of you two clowns were talkiing to anyone who was in the bar at the time, I was.  A respected, middle-aged fan from a small village in Co Down who regularly travels to owc matches and was disgusted by the behaviour of so called 'fans' in the pub... You can think what you want about my information, I don't care, I know it to be true...

BTW, had to laugh at 'what I was trying to say, only with better research!' MnaGobshite ... if it wasn't for the 16 wee funny faces on the posting page you would have NOTHING to say
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Main Street on December 17, 2009, 04:57:47 PM
I am surprised that Myles did not claim he was there in person.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on December 17, 2009, 05:11:19 PM
Quote from: Main Street on December 17, 2009, 04:57:47 PM
I am surprised that Myles did not claim he was there in person.

Sure he has a pretence to keep up!
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: stew on December 17, 2009, 05:21:41 PM
Quote from: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on December 17, 2009, 05:11:19 PM
Quote from: Main Street on December 17, 2009, 04:57:47 PM
I am surprised that Myles did not claim he was there in person.

Sure he has a pretence to keep up!

Doesnt he just.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Myles Na G. on December 17, 2009, 08:09:25 PM
'Neither of you two clowns were talkiing to anyone who was in the bar at the time, I was. '
When you come up with a bit of corroborative evidence to support your argument, as EG has done to support his, I'll start taking you seriously. Until then, I repeat my response to your last post.
:D
'Why don't you bend him over and rim him...'
You seem to know a lot about that kind of stuff. Something you want to share with the board?
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Myles Na G. on December 17, 2009, 08:12:09 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on December 17, 2009, 04:15:41 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on December 16, 2009, 09:35:38 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on December 16, 2009, 09:31:44 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on December 16, 2009, 09:11:09 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on December 16, 2009, 09:07:54 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on December 16, 2009, 09:05:03 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on December 16, 2009, 09:00:47 PM
Whatever the problems the fact remains that North of Ireland fans do have a capacity, much like Kate Adie, of being present in troible hotspots, eg Bratislava, in Belfast with rioting Poles etc.
They are certainy not the poor innocent bystanders EG would have us think
Where do you expect NI fans to be if not in Belfast? Do you condemn RoI fans for being in Dublin some years ago when England fans rioted?
did the Irish fans retaliate in the same manner as the ni fans did ?
I cant remember that !!
::)
So you agree that the Poles initiated the violence? That's progress, I suppose.
how so - the originators of this were not in question (apart from maybe the voices in yer head !!)
would look like they started some of it, but who knows, cant rely on tv/media reports...
either way there was a disturbing desire to fight among the ifa contingent that the Irish fans didnt have when under worse provocation in lansdowne road.
Different circumstances altogether. The English lot didn't kick off until they were in the ground, at which point the guards made sure there was no way the Irish could get involved. Might've been a different story if the trouble had started in pubs in the city centre.
not different circumstances at all...
plenty of opportunity for the Irish fans who would have seen it on the telly to also come out and have a go at the english hooligans if they were so inclined - but thats the point ....they were not and in contrary to the ni fans who were.
my point stands.
Like all your points, it  doesn't even have the strength to lie slumped in the corner.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Main Street on December 18, 2009, 01:06:59 AM
No Irish fans, that did go into that kip the Dubliner, were involved in violent incidents when Ireland played Slovakia.

Quote from: Myles Na G. on December 16, 2009, 09:35:38 PM
Different circumstances altogether. The English lot didn't kick off until they were in the ground, at which point the guards made sure there was no way the Irish could get involved. Might've been a different story if the trouble had started in pubs in the city centre.

Yeah sure Myles ::)  You are an encyclopedia for some infinite amount of nonsense.
I thought everybody and their dog knew that the Gardai were conspicuous by their absence that night. It seemed an eternity before that lone baton wielding warrior was relieved by the riot squad. Plenty of time for people to get involved if they were so inclined.

Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Dannymcfella on December 18, 2009, 10:55:20 AM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on December 17, 2009, 08:09:25 PM
'Neither of you two clowns were talkiing to anyone who was in the bar at the time, I was. '
When you come up with a bit of corroborative evidence to support your argument, as EG has done to support his, I'll start taking you seriously. Until then, I repeat my response to your last post.
:D
'Why don't you bend him over and rim him...'
You seem to know a lot about that kind of stuff. Something you want to share with the board?

Would hardly calling quoting statements from a forum corroborative evidence. Thats like someone going onto OWC and quoting statements from this form as fact. Think it safe to safe the truth lies somewhere in between, I refuse to believe that the Bouncers/thugs got violent for absolutely no reason but I would also think its pretty obvious that they were extremely heavy handed
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on December 18, 2009, 10:57:52 AM
EG obviously avoids the flag incident as a factor.  ::)
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: fitzroyalty on December 18, 2009, 11:43:18 AM
I drank in the Dubliner when I was in Bratislava and to be fair the staff were sound as  ???
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: illdecide on December 18, 2009, 11:44:55 AM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on December 18, 2009, 11:43:18 AM
I drank in the Dubliner when I was in Bratislava and to be fair the staff were sound as  ???

You told me you didn't drink alcohol you little liar :D I suppose you don't gamble on-line either :P
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on December 18, 2009, 09:02:16 PM
Quote from: Evil Genius on December 16, 2009, 08:25:18 PM
Quote from: red hander on December 15, 2009, 09:19:23 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on December 15, 2009, 09:07:09 PM
Quote from: red hander on December 15, 2009, 08:37:15 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on December 15, 2009, 08:05:52 PM
Same when the Norn Iron fans were assaulted in an Irish bar in Slovakia. Makes you wonder.

Flicked over to the Rangers game earlier there, and thought I heard the words "Bobby Sands" being sung in a song by one set of the supporters. Not 100% though on that. What song would or could they be singing?

Assaulted my hole ... they removed a tricolour from the wall, the bar staff attempted to stop them, the bar staff were attacked and the bouncers weighed in to protect the bar staff, but the version we got was that two wee innocent huns from Fermanagh were beaten up for absolutely no reason
Wouldn't matter what version you got. In such circumstances, bigots like you make your own story up to fit in with your prejudices.

FYI, it came from an OWC supporter who was in the bar when the thing happened

I don't believe  a word of that, Red Hander, since I was in Bratislava myself and spoke to fans who were in the pub at the time. I trust their word over yours, never mind that of your (fictitious) "OWC mate" any day.
Of course, I don't expect you or like-minded individuals to take my word for this, so I've followed up some references (alluded to by MnaG above) from foot.ie, an ROI soccer fans' website.

To put this into context, the ROI played a game in Bratislava the year before the NI game. Prior/subsequent to the ROI game, and again prior to the NI game, ROI fans were warning, from personal experience, of the dangers of "The Dubliner" bar (or more accurately its doorstaff), as follows.

Prior to the ROI Game
1. "Citizenerased" on 09/08/07:
Hi all, I have just returned from Bratislava yesterday the 07 August 2007, I went on a stag party with my friends for the august weekend...            ...however I have one small problem, as I sit here writing this I am finding it difficult to see out through my eyes as I was severely assaulted on my last night there, I went to the hospital yesterday where I received four stitches to my nose as a result of the assault.
It happened in the Dubliner Irish Pub(I am Irish by the way), I would urge any man thinking of going over there not too, I was dragged downstairs in the pub by what I can only describe as two (security staff) ex army men, huge from steroids and crazy from drugs towards a very dark room where they proceeded to kick the crap out of me, I managed to break free and a friend of mine spotted me, he had been looking for me for ten minutes, he was kicked away as he tried to intervene, then he raised the alarm.
2. "Soylent Green" on 20/08/07:
Not to get people too worried but I got the following warning from my cousin living in Slovakia:
"Avoid police and nightclub staff. Bratislava is NOT a place to get into a situation at night. You can get mugged easily by the bouncers believe me. Old trick your mates get in,someone gets hit and a large drinks bill is presented to you as a way out. Anyway worst case syndrome but it does happen"
3. "KoemansCC" on 21/08/97:
one common thing I've seen on all sites/forums is regarding the Dubliner pub...not friendly, over priced, over zealous doormen...
4. "Mento" on 21/08/07:
Hviezdoslavovo square the place to be and stay away from Dubliner

After the ROI Game:
5. "Zinedineontour" on 14/09/07:
Got to agree with all the comments thought Bratislava was a bit of a kip and the bars and restaurants didnt want the service and i wont even start about the dubliner "irish " bar with the 8 bouncers outside !
6. "Piggy" on 14/09/07:
I thought Bratislave was the biggest sh*t hole i ever had the misfortune of being in! Apart from the fact that we got attacked by a couple of thugs and the bouncers on friday night i just thought the attitude of the people was terrible. The staff in the pubs were ****ed off because the place was so busy and they didnt give a **** about service.
The police were also a disaster. They didnt care that we had been attacked and refused to give us their names or numbers so we could follow up. Sorted that problem by taking pictures of their badges with my phone.
My buddy is off to A&E this morning to get his broken nose fixed. The third world A&E in bratislava couldnt be bothered!
7. "upkerry" on 14/09/07:
Lads from the offset the locals had no regard for the Irish. Unfriendly, unhelpful and only out for the quick buck. As for the so called Irish pubs. The Dubliner had what I could only call several thugs on the door. I was lucky enough not to have any problems but I saw many decent Irish fans turned away or evicted for nothing including several elderly supporters.
8. "Rogue Trader" on 18/09/07:
i never encountered this poor local attitude in Bratislava except in that bloody Dubliner pub(Which i avoided after what i seen was on the Door).
9. "Neil McD" on 18/09/07:
Again Bratislava was great craic as long as you stayed away from the Dubliner which I thought was a shocker of a bar.

Before the NI game:
10. "GUFCT" on 29/08/08:
(Hope you don't get the torrential rain we had last year) or the gestapo bouncers.Stay far away from the Dubliner Bar by far the biggest bunch of thugs i have ever come across in all my travels.

After the NI game:
11. "Bottle of Tonic" on 08/09/08:
I see some of the NI fans took a batein in the Dubliner bar in Bratislava. (bbc website) Having been there this time last year i'm not surprised. They had four heavies kitted out in army gear as bouncers and wouldn't let any of us in when the place was only half full. Total cants.


That is just a selection, gleaned after a perfunctory search. Of course, I suppose it is just possible that all those ROI fans were involved in removing Union Jacks and singing Loyalist songs etc, but I doubt it. Or I could just be making it all up*.

However, I prefer the explanation which subsequently emerged from a conversation between an NI fan and a local contact in Slovakia, who explained that most of the "Security" Firms who provide doorstaff for Bratislava pubs and clubs etc are owned by organised crime. As such, they are actually operating protection rackets against the owners of these venues, and periodically make a display of "muscle" to keep the owners intimidated. Apparently football fans make as good a victim of this muscle as any. Certainly, the thugs who attacked the NI fans were all dressed alike in black, military clothing, with baseball bats and knuckle-dusters etc.

* - I've often wondered how myths such as eg NI fans being the cause of the violence in Bratislava, rather than the victims etc emerge. I used to attribute it to misunderstandings and exagerration and so on. But from this particular thread, I see that at least some derive from malicious liars simply making things up, to suit some bigoted agenda... >:(

Anyone else remember the Celtic / northern Ireland supporter "Let's all do the bouncy" wheeled out on occasion by Evil Genius as conclusive evidence of what needed to proved / disproved?

If you cannae do the bouncy, you're a tim.
If you cannae do the bouncy, you're a tim.
Cannae do the bouncy, cannae do the bouncy,
If you cannae do the bouncy, you're a tim.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: T Fearon on December 19, 2009, 12:36:45 PM
I'm still waiting for the "moron with the 20p" who issued the Lennon death threat, to be unveiled. Until he is handed over there will be no justice. ;D
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: wallyman on December 19, 2009, 02:29:21 PM
Quote from: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on December 18, 2009, 10:57:52 AM
EG obviously avoids the flag incident as a factor.  ::)

What's this?
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Olaf on December 19, 2009, 10:11:21 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on December 16, 2009, 07:32:48 PM
Lat year, at least one male North of Ireland fan came home from Slovakia with one testicle less than he went out with ;D

Why do you find this humorous? ??? 

Notwithstanding your obvious disdain for every NI supporter any reasonable thinking person would find it impossible to find any humour of any nature in this comment.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on December 20, 2009, 09:27:02 PM
Quote from: wallyman on December 19, 2009, 02:29:21 PM
Quote from: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on December 18, 2009, 10:57:52 AM
EG obviously avoids the flag incident as a factor.  ::)

What's this?

Reason for the trouble in the bar was that as well as singing (odious songs) and abusing the bar staff, the worlds greatest fans decided to vandalise the pub by taking a Tricolour of the wall, I mean the disgrace of having a Tricolour in an "Irish Bar", just to wind up the GAWA (allegedly  ::))!
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Archie Mitchell on December 30, 2009, 08:20:45 PM
9 minute hat-trick for Kris Boyd to equal Larssons goal scoring record in the SPL. Cert to break it tonight.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: T Fearon on December 30, 2009, 09:10:41 PM
So what? WestlIfe haVe sold more records than the Rolling Stones but that does not make them the better group. In any case Boyd will probably be gone in January.

When he has played for three European Cup winning sides, scored in a major European Final and won a Champions League medal he can be mentioned in the same breath as Larsson.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Archie Mitchell on December 30, 2009, 09:20:08 PM
Record gone.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Archie Mitchell on December 30, 2009, 09:25:21 PM
Fantastic 5 for Kris Boyd tonight.

Kenny Miller got sent off so will miss the Old Firm. Rangers won't score on Sunday with him not playing.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: nifan on January 01, 2010, 01:54:05 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on December 30, 2009, 09:10:41 PM
When he has played for three European Cup winning sides, scored in a major European Final and won a Champions League medal he can be mentioned in the same breath as Larsson.

Boyd is a great goal scorer - Larsson was a great player. Dont think anyone but the staunchest Rangers fan would actually compare them in terms of all round impact.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Galwaybhoy on January 01, 2010, 04:04:04 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on December 30, 2009, 09:10:41 PM
So what? WestlIfe haVe sold more records than the Rolling Stones but that does not make them the better group. In any case Boyd will probably be gone in January.

When he has played for three European Cup winning sides, scored in a major European Final and won a Champions League medal he can be mentioned in the same breath as Larsson.

No chance of giving him a bit of credit for beating the record no?  No one said he is as good a player as Larsson.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on January 04, 2010, 10:21:37 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on December 30, 2009, 09:10:41 PM
So what? WestlIfe haVe sold more records than the Rolling Stones but that does not make them the better group. In any case Boyd will probably be gone in January.

When he has played for three European Cup winning sides, scored in a major European Final and won a Champions League medal he can be mentioned in the same breath as Larsson.

This man does it with more class.

Quote
I suppose it would be only right to congratulate the new spl all time top goal scorer this morning and far be it from me to take any of the shine away from the lad's achievement, but just wondering will we ever see him score two goals in a european final or help barcelona to win a champions league final or refuse TWO TIMES to leave Glasgow and the supporters 'I love so much' and go and play for some outfit in manchester, or chip the keeper like he was a child, when playing against your greatest rivals in a derby, not to mention the goals and achievements for his country, so gtf KB, and just in case you might start getting a big napper about yourself you might want to have a look at a Jimmy McGrory fact file! But here, in the meantime, check this one out!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvq4p6L03YM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvq4p6L03YM)
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Archie Mitchell on January 10, 2010, 01:20:42 PM
Doing well so far in the cup. 2-0 up and crusing in the first half with 8 minutes to go, now 3-2 down.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Minder on January 10, 2010, 01:42:42 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on January 10, 2010, 01:20:42 PM
Doing well so far in the cup. 2-0 up and crusing in the first half with 8 minutes to go, now 3-2 down.

Just got awarded a soft penalty. 3-3
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on January 25, 2010, 08:27:55 AM
Fermanagh's Andrew Little scores his first senior goal to give Rangers a late draw against Hearts.

Despite having only disdain  for Rangers, I am sure Evil Genius is secretly delighted.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: The Worker on January 25, 2010, 05:57:35 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on January 25, 2010, 08:27:55 AM
Fermanagh's Andrew Little scores his first senior goal to give Rangers a late draw against Hearts.

Despite having only disdain  for Rangers, I am sure Evil Genius is secretly delighted.

was that two fermanagh men up front for the teddy bears at the weekend then?
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: red hander on January 25, 2010, 09:46:03 PM
Quote from: The Worker on January 25, 2010, 05:57:35 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on January 25, 2010, 08:27:55 AM
Fermanagh's Andrew Little scores his first senior goal to give Rangers a late draw against Hearts.

Despite having only disdain  for Rangers, I am sure Evil Genius is secretly delighted.

was that two fermanagh men up front for the teddy bears at the weekend then?

Aye, but obviously only one of them can hit the arse of a cow with a banjo
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Orior on January 25, 2010, 09:49:03 PM
Lafferty shudda played gaelic. He'd be a handy midfielder.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: clarshack on February 02, 2010, 10:22:45 AM
It's not all doom and gloom for Rangers fans this morning as the Ibrox club were given a financial boost when David Weir's cold weather payment came in.  :D
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: ONeill on February 02, 2010, 11:14:49 PM
Great result for Rangers. Fair play to a club in a seriously worse financial situation than Glasgow Celtic.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Orior on February 02, 2010, 11:20:16 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 02, 2010, 11:14:49 PM
Great result for Rangers. Fair play to a club in a seriously worse financial situation than Glasgow Celtic.

Emmm... c'mon the Gers!
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: T Fearon on February 02, 2010, 11:22:44 PM
When the roles were reversed in the early 90s (ie Celtic were broke and Rangers coud spend spend spend) the huns took full advantage and the gap in class and trophies was fully exploited. It is scarcely believable that Rangers without a pot to piss in, ar ten points clear.

You might have disdain , hatred even, but you can't deny that Smith is a first class manager in every respect
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on April 28, 2010, 11:24:50 AM
Rankers up to dodgy dealings???

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/r/rangers/8647085.stm 


Rangers confirm club being investigated over tax issue 


Rangers have confirmed that the Scottish Premier League club is under investigation by Her Majesty's Revenue and Customs (HMRC) over a tax issue.

BBC Scotland has learned that the investigation relates to payments made into offshore accounts.

The club is still up for sale with estimated debts of about £30m.

BBC Scotland has also learned that the investigation does not signal an end for the proposed takeover by businessman Andrew Ellis.

"There is an ongoing query raised by HMRC which is part of a pending court case," the club said in a statement.

"On the basis of expert tax advice provided to Rangers, the club is robustly defending the matters raised.

It is not a new problem. It has been there for a long time, so this just hasn't come up

Rangers chairman Alastair Johnston
"It would, therefore, be inappropriate to comment further at this stage."

Lyon's defeat on Tuesday by Bayern Munich in the semi-finals of the Champions League means that Rangers are destined to go straight into next season's lucrative group stages of the competition without the need to play any qualifiers.

And Rangers were also moved to reject reports that Champions League and club season ticket income had already been "ring-fenced" by the club's bank to reduce the debt.

"This is totally incorrect and discussions with the bank in relation to the business plan will take place in the coming weeks," said the club.

"The club would also like to reiterate once again that at no time has director Dave King made an offer to purchase Rangers Football Club."

Rangers have been unable to purchase a player for 20 months as Lloyds Banking Group tries to control the £30m debt.

Three transfer windows have opened and closed without the Ibrox club bringing out their cheque book.

The last arrival was USA midfielder Maurice Edu, who they signed from Toronto in August 2008.

Despite their financial problems, manager Walter Smith has guided Rangers to two successive league titles, the latest being secured on Sunday.

US-based Rangers chairman Alastair Johnston is due in Scotland next week to hold talks with Ellis - and will also hope to come up with the assurances required to persuade Smith to remain in post.

Johnston told BBC Scotland that money would be available for the manager to strengthen his squad and stressed that the HMRC investigation was being handled by Rangers owner Sir David Murray's parent company.

"It is not a new problem," said the chairman. "It has been there for a long time, so this just hasn't come up.

"This is more in the holding company of Murray's. It has been one that the Murray Group has been taking care of and been involved in on a day-to-day basis in the past and I would continue to defer to them on that one

Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on May 21, 2010, 10:17:17 AM
Interesting to see that the quintessentially British club loyal through and through try to avoid putting tax back into the economy - well done Rangers, rule Britannia and all that crap.

See page 18.

http://www.christianaid.org.uk/images/blowing-the-whistle-caweek-report.pdf
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Main Street on May 21, 2010, 04:05:29 PM
See page 27 for the lowdown on David King, a non exec director of Rangers plc and the source of that £20m to save Rangers in the year 2000.
The South African taxman is on his tail,
'The 322 charges include fraud, money laundering,racketeering and tax evasionfor the period 1990 to 2001'.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: gerry on December 26, 2010, 11:48:11 AM
Good to see a poster on here supporting rangers by getting shares in the club
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 15, 2011, 12:34:31 PM
Lafertty scored a cracker there, Not looking good
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 15, 2011, 12:37:32 PM
2 nil now to rangers!!
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: ONeill on May 15, 2011, 12:38:14 PM
Laff scores after 45 seconds. Could be a great day for the Prods up here especially if Antrim win.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 15, 2011, 12:42:42 PM
3 nill now, bit of a hammering and the referee has not given them a free, penalty or sent any of the Kilmarnock men off
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 15, 2011, 12:44:13 PM
Quote from: ONeill on May 15, 2011, 12:38:14 PM
Laff scores after 45 seconds. Could be a great day for the Prods up here especially if Antrim win.

The Antrim win yesterday was great, if Rangers win today.......
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 15, 2011, 12:51:42 PM
these were seen heading towards Kilmarnock's pitch


(http://www.hobbyunivers.com/wp-content/uploads/18_5_orig.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Minder on May 15, 2011, 02:22:15 PM
Good to see Diouffy get a medal.

Simply the best.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Blowitupref on May 15, 2011, 02:44:23 PM
David Weir 41 years young fair play to him.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: ONeill on June 23, 2011, 10:44:56 AM
GAA star signs for Glasgow Rangers
By Chris McCann
Thursday, 23 June 2011

He's a young Catholic, pretty nifty with a Gaelic football — and on his way to Rangers.

Budding football star Aaron McGregor is set make a remarkable transition this week when he swaps his GAA jersey for the Glasgow side's blue strip.

The 17-year-old has been snapped up by the Scottish giants, signing a two-year full-time professional contract.

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/gaa/gaa-star-signs-for-glasgow-rangers-16015100.html

And while excited to be joining the Ibrox club and the Scottish Premier League, young Aaron is disappointed to be leaving behind his squad place with Limavady Wolfhounds Gaelic Club, for whom he's played for since boyhood. Indeed, his last competitive sporting action before joining Rangers was to set up a winning injury time goal for his elder brother Conor in the Wolfhounds' most recent league match against Ogra Colmcille with a searing run and clever handpass. Such an action, of course, would see him penalised for handball in his new career.

For Aaron, the opportunity to make a full-time career in football is a dream come true.

"I was delighted when Rangers made an approach, it's an opportunity to make a career as a full-time professional footballer," he said.

"When you see Rangers' facilities and their coaches, it's a fantastic set-up. I'd been on trial with a few other teams — Bradford, Burnley and Aberdeen — but the Rangers set-up was the best.

"Bradford actually put a deal on the table, they offered a contract straight away. I was over three times with Burnley and they were in the process of bringing me over again when Rangers moved in between times. They moved very quickly once they had made their decision."

Aaron's move to professional football has come as a result of a lot of hard work over the years with Limavady Youths, Newtown Youths, Foyle Harps and Ballymena United — and Limavady and Ballymena are both set to get a financial boost for the work they invested in his development.

"I've always wanted to be a professional footballer. It's been hard at times to combine keeping up school work, with going for trials and training," said Aaron.

"I'm really looking forward to training full-time. It's going to be a big change leaving home and moving to a big city but I'm looking forward to that as well."

As for Gaelic football, the teenager is sad to leave his first love behind. "I'll miss the Gaelic, of course. I wanted to play senior football for my club before I left and I'm glad I got the chance," he added.

Aaron's proud father Michael explained how the switch to Glasgow came about.

"It turns out Rangers had been watching him since he was 12, on and off. They actually made the approach to him around Christmas at Seaview after a game between Ballymena United reserves and Crusaders," he said.

"We'd heard that they had looked at him at the Milk Cup, but hearing something and having a concrete offer are two different things.

"The Milk Cup is a great tournament. Aaron played in it at both junior and premier level. He actually captained his county one year and it was real opportunity for Aaron to impress scouts over the years. He also played in the Foyle Cup in Derry and scouts come and watch those tournaments."

Michael took every step to make sure his son had the best opportunity to make the most of his talent.

"When he was 13 there were enough men who told me Aaron would be good enough, and after that I decided that I would give him the best chance possible. I got Ollie Cummings to train him on the fitness aspect and I'd like to give a big thanks to Ollie for his help," he said.

Aaron won't be the only player with a GAA background in the Rangers reserve and Under-19 squads he'll initially be joining.

"Rangers is full of lads who have played Gaelic: there are five in the squad that Aaron's joining, three Dublin fellas and one from Omagh, and three or four of the Rangers scouts had Celtic tattoos on them," said Michael.

"At this level it's all about professionalism."

It's a testament to how well things have moved on that Michael is able to say that the reaction to Aaron's move has been universally positive.

"The reaction locally has been brilliant, from all sides of the community. We have had so many phone calls wishing him well.

"We had a going away party for Aaron at the weekend and the turnout was mixed right down the middle. Everybody is very proud of him," he said.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Radda bout yeee on June 23, 2011, 11:30:04 AM
Quote from: ONeill on June 23, 2011, 10:44:56 AM
GAA star signs for Glasgow Rangers
By Chris McCann
Thursday, 23 June 2011

He's a young Catholic, pretty nifty with a Gaelic football — and on his way to Rangers.

Budding football star Aaron McGregor is set make a remarkable transition this week when he swaps his GAA jersey for the Glasgow side's blue strip.

The 17-year-old has been snapped up by the Scottish giants, signing a two-year full-time professional contract.

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/gaa/gaa-star-signs-for-glasgow-rangers-16015100.html

And while excited to be joining the Ibrox club and the Scottish Premier League, young Aaron is disappointed to be leaving behind his squad place with Limavady Wolfhounds Gaelic Club, for whom he's played for since boyhood. Indeed, his last competitive sporting action before joining Rangers was to set up a winning injury time goal for his elder brother Conor in the Wolfhounds' most recent league match against Ogra Colmcille with a searing run and clever handpass. Such an action, of course, would see him penalised for handball in his new career.

For Aaron, the opportunity to make a full-time career in football is a dream come true.

"I was delighted when Rangers made an approach, it's an opportunity to make a career as a full-time professional footballer," he said.

"When you see Rangers' facilities and their coaches, it's a fantastic set-up. I'd been on trial with a few other teams — Bradford, Burnley and Aberdeen — but the Rangers set-up was the best.

"Bradford actually put a deal on the table, they offered a contract straight away. I was over three times with Burnley and they were in the process of bringing me over again when Rangers moved in between times. They moved very quickly once they had made their decision."

Aaron's move to professional football has come as a result of a lot of hard work over the years with Limavady Youths, Newtown Youths, Foyle Harps and Ballymena United — and Limavady and Ballymena are both set to get a financial boost for the work they invested in his development.

"I've always wanted to be a professional footballer. It's been hard at times to combine keeping up school work, with going for trials and training," said Aaron.

"I'm really looking forward to training full-time. It's going to be a big change leaving home and moving to a big city but I'm looking forward to that as well."

As for Gaelic football, the teenager is sad to leave his first love behind. "I'll miss the Gaelic, of course. I wanted to play senior football for my club before I left and I'm glad I got the chance," he added.

Aaron's proud father Michael explained how the switch to Glasgow came about.

"It turns out Rangers had been watching him since he was 12, on and off. They actually made the approach to him around Christmas at Seaview after a game between Ballymena United reserves and Crusaders," he said.

"We'd heard that they had looked at him at the Milk Cup, but hearing something and having a concrete offer are two different things.

"The Milk Cup is a great tournament. Aaron played in it at both junior and premier level. He actually captained his county one year and it was real opportunity for Aaron to impress scouts over the years. He also played in the Foyle Cup in Derry and scouts come and watch those tournaments."

Michael took every step to make sure his son had the best opportunity to make the most of his talent.

"When he was 13 there were enough men who told me Aaron would be good enough, and after that I decided that I would give him the best chance possible. I got Ollie Cummings to train him on the fitness aspect and I'd like to give a big thanks to Ollie for his help," he said.

Aaron won't be the only player with a GAA background in the Rangers reserve and Under-19 squads he'll initially be joining.

"Rangers is full of lads who have played Gaelic: there are five in the squad that Aaron's joining, three Dublin fellas and one from Omagh, and three or four of the Rangers scouts had Celtic tattoos on them," said Michael.

"At this level it's all about professionalism."

It's a testament to how well things have moved on that Michael is able to say that the reaction to Aaron's move has been universally positive.

"The reaction locally has been brilliant, from all sides of the community. We have had so many phone calls wishing him well.

"We had a going away party for Aaron at the weekend and the turnout was mixed right down the middle. Everybody is very proud of him," he said.

Fair play to the lad - Prob took alot of courage to make that decision! Hope he makes it!
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Galwaybhoy on June 23, 2011, 04:33:50 PM
Quote from: Radda bout yeee on June 23, 2011, 11:30:04 AM
Quote from: ONeill on June 23, 2011, 10:44:56 AM
GAA star signs for Glasgow Rangers
By Chris McCann
Thursday, 23 June 2011

He's a young Catholic, pretty nifty with a Gaelic football — and on his way to Rangers.

Budding football star Aaron McGregor is set make a remarkable transition this week when he swaps his GAA jersey for the Glasgow side's blue strip.

The 17-year-old has been snapped up by the Scottish giants, signing a two-year full-time professional contract.

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/gaa/gaa-star-signs-for-glasgow-rangers-16015100.html

And while excited to be joining the Ibrox club and the Scottish Premier League, young Aaron is disappointed to be leaving behind his squad place with Limavady Wolfhounds Gaelic Club, for whom he's played for since boyhood. Indeed, his last competitive sporting action before joining Rangers was to set up a winning injury time goal for his elder brother Conor in the Wolfhounds' most recent league match against Ogra Colmcille with a searing run and clever handpass. Such an action, of course, would see him penalised for handball in his new career.

For Aaron, the opportunity to make a full-time career in football is a dream come true.

"I was delighted when Rangers made an approach, it's an opportunity to make a career as a full-time professional footballer," he said.

"When you see Rangers' facilities and their coaches, it's a fantastic set-up. I'd been on trial with a few other teams — Bradford, Burnley and Aberdeen — but the Rangers set-up was the best.

"Bradford actually put a deal on the table, they offered a contract straight away. I was over three times with Burnley and they were in the process of bringing me over again when Rangers moved in between times. They moved very quickly once they had made their decision."

Aaron's move to professional football has come as a result of a lot of hard work over the years with Limavady Youths, Newtown Youths, Foyle Harps and Ballymena United — and Limavady and Ballymena are both set to get a financial boost for the work they invested in his development.

"I've always wanted to be a professional footballer. It's been hard at times to combine keeping up school work, with going for trials and training," said Aaron.

"I'm really looking forward to training full-time. It's going to be a big change leaving home and moving to a big city but I'm looking forward to that as well."

As for Gaelic football, the teenager is sad to leave his first love behind. "I'll miss the Gaelic, of course. I wanted to play senior football for my club before I left and I'm glad I got the chance," he added.

Aaron's proud father Michael explained how the switch to Glasgow came about.

"It turns out Rangers had been watching him since he was 12, on and off. They actually made the approach to him around Christmas at Seaview after a game between Ballymena United reserves and Crusaders," he said.

"We'd heard that they had looked at him at the Milk Cup, but hearing something and having a concrete offer are two different things.

"The Milk Cup is a great tournament. Aaron played in it at both junior and premier level. He actually captained his county one year and it was real opportunity for Aaron to impress scouts over the years. He also played in the Foyle Cup in Derry and scouts come and watch those tournaments."

Michael took every step to make sure his son had the best opportunity to make the most of his talent.

"When he was 13 there were enough men who told me Aaron would be good enough, and after that I decided that I would give him the best chance possible. I got Ollie Cummings to train him on the fitness aspect and I'd like to give a big thanks to Ollie for his help," he said.

Aaron won't be the only player with a GAA background in the Rangers reserve and Under-19 squads he'll initially be joining.

"Rangers is full of lads who have played Gaelic: there are five in the squad that Aaron's joining, three Dublin fellas and one from Omagh, and three or four of the Rangers scouts had Celtic tattoos on them," said Michael.

"At this level it's all about professionalism."

It's a testament to how well things have moved on that Michael is able to say that the reaction to Aaron's move has been universally positive.

"The reaction locally has been brilliant, from all sides of the community. We have had so many phone calls wishing him well.

"We had a going away party for Aaron at the weekend and the turnout was mixed right down the middle. Everybody is very proud of him," he said.

Fair play to the lad - Prob took alot of courage to make that decision! Hope he makes it!

Exactly.  Great to read news items like this.  I wonder how some of the more diehard Rangers fans feel about this?  Anything that can help change the sectarianism in the Old Firm is a step in the right direction.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Muzz on June 23, 2011, 04:35:59 PM
Frankly I think its a load of balls...

Great for the fella - but if he had signed for Burnley would it be all over the news - I think not!
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Galwaybhoy on June 23, 2011, 04:38:25 PM
Quote from: Muzz on June 23, 2011, 04:35:59 PM
Frankly I think its a load of balls...

Great for the fella - but if he had signed for Burnley would it be all over the news - I think not!

Well obviously not...
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Forever Green on June 23, 2011, 07:39:25 PM
Fair play to him but there will be a good few of the Rangers fans that will have a different reaction
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Forever Green on July 26, 2011, 09:49:03 PM
Rangers 0-1 Malmo in CL qualifier :D  Number 7 Larsson got the goal for Malmo ;D
Plenty of wives getting battered tonight unfortunately
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: stew on July 26, 2011, 10:47:16 PM
Quote from: Forever Green on June 23, 2011, 07:39:25 PM
Fair play to him but there will be a good few of the Rangers fans that will have a different reaction

And some of them wont give a shite.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: laoislad on August 03, 2011, 06:29:40 PM
Rangers 1 up v Malmo. Come on Rangers!
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Club Rossa on August 03, 2011, 08:18:37 PM
Rangers out and showed a complete lack of discipline on the night.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: reddgnhand on August 04, 2011, 08:03:56 AM
Quote from: Club Rossa on August 03, 2011, 08:18:37 PM
Rangers out and showed a complete lack of discipline on the night.

They would have got away with it in Scotland.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: deiseach on August 04, 2011, 09:31:25 AM
Trevor Steven showed on Sky Sports News why he is one the best pundits around. Unflinching in his criticism of Rangers for their indiscipline rather than blaming the ref/Johnny Foreigner/both
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Pat Mustard on August 04, 2011, 12:38:26 PM
Quote from: laoislad on August 03, 2011, 06:29:40 PM
Rangers 1 up v Malmo. Come on Rangers!
How'd it finish?



:D
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Muzz on August 31, 2011, 05:00:27 PM
Showing their true colours again?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-14732745 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-14732745)
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: ludermor on August 31, 2011, 05:36:28 PM
How the f**k has this made the news? Some clown on an unoffical forum made a comment and it make headlines?? They would have a field day if they started taking quotes from the GAABOARD.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: ashman on April 07, 2016, 09:05:42 AM
are back !!

Will the other side of the gruesome start attracting above 30k to most league games now.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: outinfront on April 07, 2016, 10:12:31 AM
With the pressure on Celtic and the pressure off Rangers is it likely Celtic will bottle the league and lose to the Gers in the cup? I hope not.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: ONeill on August 21, 2016, 11:55:17 PM
Great start for the Gers. It's like they've never been away.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: foxcommander on August 22, 2016, 04:47:36 PM
Where's all this money coming from for new players?
If it's still the old club then surely they still have debts to pay off.

The official SPL site still thinks it's the old club.

http://spfl.co.uk/clubs/rangers/
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 22, 2016, 08:54:43 PM
Quote from: foxcommander on August 22, 2016, 04:47:36 PM
Where's all this money coming from for new players?
If it's still the old club then surely they still have debts to pay off.

The official SPL site still thinks it's the old club.

http://spfl.co.uk/clubs/rangers/

Still Rangers lads... I hate that stupid line!! Same pitch same fans same team
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Nigel White on August 22, 2016, 09:56:55 PM
Same history, same number of titles etc.etc.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: JimStynes on August 22, 2016, 10:02:17 PM
The new club line is great for winding them up though.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: passedit on August 22, 2016, 10:17:53 PM
Professional soccer clubs are businesses which collect and spend money to pursue success on and off the pitch. Rangers spent their way to oblivion and were replaced by The Rangers a new club. It's that simple.

E.U.F.A position.

https://mobile.twitter.com/moo_ted/status/767326007934287872?s=09 (https://mobile.twitter.com/moo_ted/status/767326007934287872?s=09)
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: AZOffaly on August 22, 2016, 10:28:17 PM
Quote from: passedit on August 22, 2016, 10:17:53 PM
Professional soccer clubs are businesses which collect and spend money to pursue success on and off the pitch. Rangers spent their way to oblivion and were replaced by The Rangers a new club. It's that simple.

E.U.F.A position.

https://mobile.twitter.com/moo_ted/status/767326007934287872?s=09 (https://mobile.twitter.com/moo_ted/status/767326007934287872?s=09)

Why are they allowed keep the roll of honour etc?
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: passedit on August 22, 2016, 10:54:56 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 22, 2016, 10:28:17 PM
Quote from: passedit on August 22, 2016, 10:17:53 PM
Professional soccer clubs are businesses which collect and spend money to pursue success on and off the pitch. Rangers spent their way to oblivion and were replaced by The Rangers a new club. It's that simple.

E.U.F.A position.

https://mobile.twitter.com/moo_ted/status/767326007934287872?s=09 (https://mobile.twitter.com/moo_ted/status/767326007934287872?s=09)

Why are they allowed keep the roll of honour etc?


They can claim all the titles they want, makes no difference. Why do you think they didn't play in the 2012 Eufa cup or Scottish premiership or didn't get a bye to the fourth round of the Scottish cup?
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 22, 2016, 11:09:56 PM
Quote from: passedit on August 22, 2016, 10:17:53 PM
Professional soccer clubs are businesses which collect and spend money to pursue success on and off the pitch. Rangers spent their way to oblivion and were replaced by The Rangers a new club. It's that simple.

E.U.F.A position.

https://mobile.twitter.com/moo_ted/status/767326007934287872?s=09 (https://mobile.twitter.com/moo_ted/status/767326007934287872?s=09)

Ok being honest though, is it a case that Celtic fans want to overtake Rangers on the roll of honour that they have this view point?? When Celtic play them this year will they look at Rangers as a different rival than before??
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: AZOffaly on August 22, 2016, 11:17:35 PM
Quote from: passedit on August 22, 2016, 10:54:56 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 22, 2016, 10:28:17 PM
Quote from: passedit on August 22, 2016, 10:17:53 PM
Professional soccer clubs are businesses which collect and spend money to pursue success on and off the pitch. Rangers spent their way to oblivion and were replaced by The Rangers a new club. It's that simple.

E.U.F.A position.

https://mobile.twitter.com/moo_ted/status/767326007934287872?s=09 (https://mobile.twitter.com/moo_ted/status/767326007934287872?s=09)

Why are they allowed keep the roll of honour etc?


They can claim all the titles they want, makes no difference. Why do you think they didn't play in the 2012 Eufa cup or Scottish premiership or didn't get a bye to the fourth round of the Scottish cup?

That was just a question, I'm not challenging you :) I'm just asking why they are obviously being allowed to maintain the appearance of being the same club. I presume Celtic fans see them as Rangers.

They should have been made change their name completely, wear different colours, and have a different crest.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 22, 2016, 11:41:07 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 22, 2016, 11:17:35 PM
Quote from: passedit on August 22, 2016, 10:54:56 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 22, 2016, 10:28:17 PM
Quote from: passedit on August 22, 2016, 10:17:53 PM
Professional soccer clubs are businesses which collect and spend money to pursue success on and off the pitch. Rangers spent their way to oblivion and were replaced by The Rangers a new club. It's that simple.

E.U.F.A position.

https://mobile.twitter.com/moo_ted/status/767326007934287872?s=09 (https://mobile.twitter.com/moo_ted/status/767326007934287872?s=09)

Why are they allowed keep the roll of honour etc?


They can claim all the titles they want, makes no difference. Why do you think they didn't play in the 2012 Eufa cup or Scottish premiership or didn't get a bye to the fourth round of the Scottish cup?

That was just a question, I'm not challenging you :) I'm just asking why they are obviously being allowed to maintain the appearance of being the same club. I presume Celtic fans see them as Rangers.

They should have been made change their name completely, wear different colours, and have a different crest.

Different stadium too, otherwise they are still rangers
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: passedit on August 23, 2016, 09:59:22 AM
The new club bought the assets of the old one when it went bust, including the stadium (though there is some doubt as to actually owns the stadium). The assets did not include the players, who were all free to leave. Although several TUPE'd over to the new club many more left. Indeed when the new club played their first game against Berwick they had to play the entire team as loanees from the old club as it still held the player registrations.

The simple reason why they are allowed to masquerade as the old club is money. The liquidation of the old club stiffed creditors (including all uk taxpayers) of millions of pounds but there is still a large customer base (including many celtic fans who need something to hate) who still want to believe they are the same club so the SFA and the Celtic board in particular indulge this fantasy to monetise it. This will work for the most part until the new club goes bust as well. I don't think anybody will buy Third Rangers.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: straightred on August 23, 2016, 12:05:41 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 22, 2016, 11:09:56 PM
Quote from: passedit on August 22, 2016, 10:17:53 PM
Professional soccer clubs are businesses which collect and spend money to pursue success on and off the pitch. Rangers spent their way to oblivion and were replaced by The Rangers a new club. It's that simple.

E.U.F.A position.

https://mobile.twitter.com/moo_ted/status/767326007934287872?s=09 (https://mobile.twitter.com/moo_ted/status/767326007934287872?s=09)

Ok being honest though, is it a case that Celtic fans want to overtake Rangers on the roll of honour that they have this view point?? When Celtic play them this year will they look at Rangers as a different rival than before??

for me its more than that. In the run up to liquidation everyone (yes everyone) was saying that if they went into liquidation then 140 years of history would die with them etc. The push then was to avoid liquidation. They didn't avoid it so they (in cooperation with the media) have now decided to rewrite history and pretend it didn't happen. They've created some sort of artificial boundary between the club and company. Its a load of nonsense and anyone with half a brain can see through it. They left a trail of debts in their wake, they won titles with the assistance of financial cheating, they were allowed back in at a higher level than they should have been and they expect everyone else to simply forget about it.

If they cared so much about their club why didn't they organise themselves and prevent it happening just as Celtic did under Fergus McCann. They want it every way but business doesn't operate like that. This isn't just a Celtic thing either - fans from every club in Scotland will never tire from reminding them of what happened and they'll continue to get upset over it.

I couldn't care less about how many leagues anyone has won. That's over and done with. As far as I'm concerned the next one is the only important one. However, in terms of what is right and wrong they should never be allowed forget what happened. The establishment club died and no amount of rewriting history will ever change that.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 23, 2016, 12:54:36 PM
Quote from: straightred on August 23, 2016, 12:05:41 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 22, 2016, 11:09:56 PM
Quote from: passedit on August 22, 2016, 10:17:53 PM
Professional soccer clubs are businesses which collect and spend money to pursue success on and off the pitch. Rangers spent their way to oblivion and were replaced by The Rangers a new club. It's that simple.

E.U.F.A position.

https://mobile.twitter.com/moo_ted/status/767326007934287872?s=09 (https://mobile.twitter.com/moo_ted/status/767326007934287872?s=09)

Ok being honest though, is it a case that Celtic fans want to overtake Rangers on the roll of honour that they have this view point?? When Celtic play them this year will they look at Rangers as a different rival than before??

for me its more than that. In the run up to liquidation everyone (yes everyone) was saying that if they went into liquidation then 140 years of history would die with them etc. The push then was to avoid liquidation. They didn't avoid it so they (in cooperation with the media) have now decided to rewrite history and pretend it didn't happen. They've created some sort of artificial boundary between the club and company. Its a load of nonsense and anyone with half a brain can see through it. They left a trail of debts in their wake, they won titles with the assistance of financial cheating, they were allowed back in at a higher level than they should have been and they expect everyone else to simply forget about it.

If they cared so much about their club why didn't they organise themselves and prevent it happening just as Celtic did under Fergus McCann. They want it every way but business doesn't operate like that. This isn't just a Celtic thing either - fans from every club in Scotland will never tire from reminding them of what happened and they'll continue to get upset over it.

I couldn't care less about how many leagues anyone has won. That's over and done with. As far as I'm concerned the next one is the only important one. However, in terms of what is right and wrong they should never be allowed forget what happened. The establishment club died and no amount of rewriting history will ever change that.

That's the best response on this I've heard... I totally get the winning titles while screwing the system and like drugs cheats who lose their medals I would say that Rangers would need to do the same... but will that happen?
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: foxcommander on August 23, 2016, 02:41:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 22, 2016, 11:09:56 PM
Quote from: passedit on August 22, 2016, 10:17:53 PM
Professional soccer clubs are businesses which collect and spend money to pursue success on and off the pitch. Rangers spent their way to oblivion and were replaced by The Rangers a new club. It's that simple.

E.U.F.A position.

https://mobile.twitter.com/moo_ted/status/767326007934287872?s=09 (https://mobile.twitter.com/moo_ted/status/767326007934287872?s=09)

Ok being honest though, is it a case that Celtic fans want to overtake Rangers on the roll of honour that they have this view point?? When Celtic play them this year will they look at Rangers as a different rival than before??

Either reset the clock to 0 titles like should have been done or at the very least strike off the titles they won by cheating.
Unsurprisingly neither looks likely to happen.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 23, 2016, 02:45:07 PM
Quote from: foxcommander on August 23, 2016, 02:41:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 22, 2016, 11:09:56 PM
Quote from: passedit on August 22, 2016, 10:17:53 PM
Professional soccer clubs are businesses which collect and spend money to pursue success on and off the pitch. Rangers spent their way to oblivion and were replaced by The Rangers a new club. It's that simple.

E.U.F.A position.

https://mobile.twitter.com/moo_ted/status/767326007934287872?s=09 (https://mobile.twitter.com/moo_ted/status/767326007934287872?s=09)

Ok being honest though, is it a case that Celtic fans want to overtake Rangers on the roll of honour that they have this view point?? When Celtic play them this year will they look at Rangers as a different rival than before??

Either reset the clock to 0 titles like should have been done or at the very least strike off the titles they won by cheating.
Unsurprisingly neither looks likely to happen.

That's the best option, I'd say there are some irregularities within a lot of clubs up and down the country that escaped scrutiny
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: ashman on August 23, 2016, 02:58:59 PM
Why so much interest in second rate Scottish soccer on this site ??  Both the Scottish clubs with threads on this site are full of hate , bigots and glory hunters .  To the remainder of decent scots both these odious organisations deserve one another .



Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: bennydorano on February 10, 2017, 11:41:21 PM
More comedy gold from Govan

Rangers: Mark Warburton replaced as manager ahead of Scottish Cup tie - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/38939432
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: stew on February 11, 2017, 07:57:15 AM
Quote from: ashman on August 23, 2016, 02:58:59 PM
Why so much interest in second rate Scottish soccer on this site ??  Both the Scottish clubs with threads on this site are full of hate , bigots and glory hunters .  To the remainder of decent scots both these odious organisations deserve one another .

Shut up.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: stew on February 11, 2017, 08:44:57 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on February 10, 2017, 11:41:21 PM
More comedy gold from Govan

Rangers: Mark Warburton replaced as manager ahead of Scottish Cup tie - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/38939432

Couldn't happen a better gaggle of gits.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: T Fearon on February 12, 2017, 09:53:19 AM
I see Michael O'Neill is priced at 40/1 to be next Rangers manager.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Orior on February 12, 2017, 12:35:31 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on February 12, 2017, 09:53:19 AM
I see Michael O'Neill is priced at 40/1 to be next Rangers manager.

OWC would love that.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: johnneycool on February 13, 2017, 11:29:20 AM
Quote from: stew on February 11, 2017, 08:44:57 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on February 10, 2017, 11:41:21 PM
More comedy gold from Govan

Rangers: Mark Warburton replaced as manager ahead of Scottish Cup tie - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/38939432

Couldn't happen a better gaggle of gits.

Heard that Warburton and his backroom staff had been in for the Forest job without informing the Gers board and had thought they'd got it only for Forest to prolong their temporary management team.
Messy, but Warburton will get somewhere soon enough.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Orior on July 04, 2017, 08:32:04 PM
Oh no! Them 'uns are 5 mins from an early exit of the Europa League.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: ashman on July 04, 2017, 08:47:17 PM
The Jock league is some joke .
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Targetman on July 04, 2017, 09:04:04 PM
We know it's not good but the Huns are a complete joke!!
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Imposerous on July 04, 2017, 09:26:00 PM
Now they are finally out of Europe they can concentrate on securing the league.  8)
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Targetman on July 04, 2017, 09:41:05 PM
They can concentrate on avoiding relegation! They can all support the wee Huns next Friday
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: bennydorano on July 04, 2017, 09:42:45 PM
Twitters on fire the nite.  ;D

Caxinha might come good eventually but I think he's going to offer a lot of comedy gold this season.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: JimStynes on July 04, 2017, 09:44:25 PM
Barrie McKay the 6 million man heading South for 500k as well lol
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: The Trap on July 04, 2017, 10:05:18 PM
DUP wanted out of europe
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Wildweasel74 on July 04, 2017, 10:20:24 PM
Ah crap, mistook them and rangers, dont know how I done that lol
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: stew on July 04, 2017, 10:29:59 PM
I have never looked more forward to a football season than this upcoming SPL season, I really think Sevco could get relegated, every team in tge league will be licking their choos to get at them, sevco are a train wreck and financially they are going to do well to get to christmas unless they find a billionaire with a financial death wish! Mot going to happen.

I would love to be a fly on the wall at training tomorrow, Broony  and BR must be pissing themselves laughing, i know i am. )
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on July 04, 2017, 10:34:10 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: T Fearon on July 04, 2017, 10:39:44 PM
Was this any worse than losing to Lincoln Red Imps? How can any Celtic team or supporter gain any satisfaction from winning an SPL when Rangers are in disarray like this? I see Celtic struggled again tonight in Prague.God help us in the Champions League, we will be up against much stronger opposition than the likes of Prague and Rapid Vienna in the group stages,if we get there.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: omagh_gael on July 04, 2017, 10:43:47 PM
https://twitter.com/FourFourTweet/status/882337628623962112?s=08

Hahahaha!
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Main Street on July 04, 2017, 10:56:06 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on July 04, 2017, 10:43:47 PM
https://twitter.com/FourFourTweet/status/882337628623962112?s=08

Hahahaha!
That's hilarious, at least they accurately predicted the "making it a great football party" bit.

Progres Niederkorn are probably considering to offer to replay the game as there surely must be some mistake.

Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Avondhu star on July 04, 2017, 11:44:27 PM
There won't be a cow milked in Luxembourg tonight
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: stew on July 05, 2017, 12:00:50 AM
Quote from: T Fearon on July 04, 2017, 10:39:44 PM
Was this any worse than losing to Lincoln Red Imps? How can any Celtic team or supporter gain any satisfaction from winning an SPL when Rangers are in disarray like this? I see Celtic struggled again tonight in Prague.God help us in the Champions League, we will be up against much stronger opposition than the likes of Prague and Rapid Vienna in the group stages,if we get there.

Yes, Celtic beat them in the second leg and went through!
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: tonto1888 on July 05, 2017, 08:05:09 AM
Quote from: T Fearon on July 04, 2017, 10:39:44 PM
Was this any worse than losing to Lincoln Red Imps? How can any Celtic team or supporter gain any satisfaction from winning an SPL when Rangers are in disarray like this? I see Celtic struggled again tonight in Prague.God help us in the Champions League, we will be up against much stronger opposition than the likes of Prague and Rapid Vienna in the group stages,if we get there.

1. Yes. We beat Red Imps
2. Of course you gain satisfaction. You can only beat what's in from if you and that includes teams other than sevco.
3. It's a bloody preseason friendly. How we played or the result does not matter and will have no relevance on what happens in CL qualification or beyond
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: PAULD123 on July 05, 2017, 10:35:33 AM
Quote from: T Fearon on July 04, 2017, 10:39:44 PM
Was this any worse than losing to Lincoln Red Imps? How can any Celtic team or supporter gain any satisfaction from winning an SPL when Rangers are in disarray like this? I see Celtic struggled again tonight in Prague.God help us in the Champions League, we will be up against much stronger opposition than the likes of Prague and Rapid Vienna in the group stages,if we get there.

Firstly as an individual match it is not much worse than the Red Imps results. Red imps were rated 407 out of 456 while Niederkorn are rated 440 out of 453. So worse, but not much. The key thing is that they lost the tie not just the match. Celtic was a blip but had no lasting impact on progress. Rangers actually went out of Europe to the 14th lowest ranked club in the continent. So yeah, much worse because losing a match is embarrassing but losing the tie is humiliating.

As for Rangers not being a powerful team and that making league titles worthless. Well don't forget when Rangers won 9-in-a-row Celtic were in disarray. Celtic didn't even finish 2nd for 7 of those Rangers titles. And who generally finished 2nd for 5 of those titles? Yep, Aberdeen just like now. So this current run of titles is no less credible than the huns back in the 90's.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: nrico2006 on July 05, 2017, 10:45:50 AM
Quote from: PAULD123 on July 05, 2017, 10:35:33 AM
Quote from: T Fearon on July 04, 2017, 10:39:44 PM
Was this any worse than losing to Lincoln Red Imps? How can any Celtic team or supporter gain any satisfaction from winning an SPL when Rangers are in disarray like this? I see Celtic struggled again tonight in Prague.God help us in the Champions League, we will be up against much stronger opposition than the likes of Prague and Rapid Vienna in the group stages,if we get there.

Firstly as an individual match it is not much worse than the Red Imps results. Red imps were rated 407 out of 456 while Niederkorn are rated 440 out of 453. So worse, but not much. The key thing is that they lost the tie not just the match. Celtic was a blip but had no lasting impact on progress. Rangers actually went out of Europe to the 14th lowest ranked club in the continent. So yeah, much worse because losing a match is embarrassing but losing the tie is humiliating.

As for Rangers not being a powerful team and that making league titles worthless. Well don't forget when Rangers won 9-in-a-row Celtic were in disarray. Celtic didn't even finish 2nd for 7 of those Rangers titles. And who generally finished 2nd for 5 of those titles? Yep, Aberdeen just like now. So this current run of titles is no less credible than the huns back in the 90's.

I actually can't believe someone has tried to say that the current run of titles for Celtic is no less credible than Rangers run in the 90s.  Wise up.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Hectic on July 05, 2017, 11:07:57 AM
When Celtic were in disarray in the 90's they did not leave creditors and the public purse out of money to the tune of £100m or more.  Instead they rallied together to back the vision of Fergus and while there were frustrating years the solid foundations put in place let Celtic get back to challenging. 

This other lot spent money that was not theirs in a totally reckless manner, cheated the public but also cheated on the sporting side before everything came home to roost and they were liquidated, began life as a new club in the bottom division which allowed them to skip past having to qualify for the leagues, they have been running at a loss since to try and get competitive at the top and got to enter Europe this year at the expense of clubs running their house in a responsible manner. 

No tears shed from me last night and there will be none when they go the same way as Third Lanark, Gretna and Rangers and I am sorry if some people feel that they need a strong club playing out of Ibrox to define Celtic but personally I do not give a monkeys if they never put up a challenge.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Main Street on July 05, 2017, 11:26:48 AM
Well, I woke up with a smile not diminished by what happened a year ago in a CLQ which ultimately had no detrimental effect compared to a sledge hammer knockout blow to Rangers, by a midget.

Also the news that  the financially doped Old Rangers are still found guilty in the big tax case and the fall guy set up to take the rap for their scams gets a not guilty verdict.

Now the field is wide open for the UK tax authorities to 'extort' payments from companies who have used the illegal EBT tax avoidance schemes.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: foxcommander on October 11, 2017, 05:46:08 PM
Naughty arabs!

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/1675947/rangers-programme-jibe-dundee-united-internet/

Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: red hander on October 13, 2017, 06:19:19 PM
http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/15595392.Rangers_chairman_Dave_King_not__a_poor_innocent_businessman___court_hears/
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: illdecide on October 26, 2017, 03:30:32 PM
Rangers: Pedro Caixinha sacked as manager after board meeting

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Rangers have sacked manager Pedro Caixinha after seven months in charge.

Coach Graeme Murty takes over on an interim basis, as he did before Caixinha's appointment in March.

Caixinha, 46, won 14 of his 26 games, with assistant manager Helder Baptista and coaches Pedro Malta and Jose Belman also leaving Ibrox.

The decision was made at a board meeting following Wednesday's 1-1 home draw with Kilmarnock, which leaves Rangers fourth in the Premiership.

On Sunday, the Rangers lost their League Cup semi-final to Motherwell at Hampden.

The Ibrox side are eight points behind Premiership leaders Celtic after 10 games, also trailing Aberdeen and Motherwell.

Live text - reaction to Caixinha dismissal
After the draw with Kilmarnock, Caixinha said he was determined to remain in charge.

But his 229-day reign makes him the shortest serving manager in the Glasgow club's history.

In April, Rangers suffered their biggest ever home loss to Celtic, suffering a 5-1 humbling on their way to a third place finish in the league.

This season started with a shock Europa League qualifying defeat to Luxembourg minnows Progres Niederkorn in July.

Last six Rangers managers
Manager   Games   Won   Drawn   Lost   Trophies
Pedro Caixinha (March 2017 - Oct 2018)   26   14   5   7   0
Mark Warburton (June 2015 - Feb 2017)   82   54   15   13   2
Ally McCoist (June 2011 - Dec 2014)   167   121   22   24   2
Walter Smith (Jan 2007 - May 2011)   246   155   53   38   8
Paul Le Guen (May 2006 - Jan 2007)   31   16   8   7   0
Alex McLeish (Dec 2001 - May 2006)   235   155   44   36   7
Analysis - BBC Scotland's Tom English

The big surprise is not that Pedro Caixinha has lost his job as Rangers manager. The remarkable thing is that he ever got it in the first place.

His track record did not support such an appointment. The only thing that Caixinha seemed adept at was talking a good game rather than delivering one.

Over the course of his brief reign the headlines he created were more about the bombast of his words rather than the performance his side. Eventually, the board that took such an unnecessary gamble in giving him the job, admitted that there was no future with him in charge.

Those men who made the decision to appoint him are the director Graeme Park, the managing director Stewart Robinson and the director of football administration Andrew Dickson. Having assessed their now ex-manager a period of self-reflection is in order.

This has been a desperate mess from start to finish.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: SHEEDY on October 26, 2017, 03:31:58 PM
Not a surprise.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Targetman on October 26, 2017, 09:18:26 PM
Sorry to see him go, some of the stuff he came out with was hilarious and was dragging the Huns down deeper and deeper every day!!
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: foxcommander on October 26, 2017, 10:26:04 PM
Quote from: Targetman on October 26, 2017, 09:18:26 PM
Sorry to see him go, some of the stuff he came out with was hilarious and was dragging the Huns down deeper and deeper every day!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0qTTUJC94Q

Banning green boots was a classic.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: red hander on October 26, 2017, 10:34:39 PM
Well done Agent Caixhina, mission accomplished. Return to base
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Over the Bar on October 26, 2017, 11:30:26 PM
Allegedly Arlene Foster and Gregory Campbell both said that appointing a papist to lead the Orcs was a huge mistake.  Personally  think he should have got a 5 year extension!
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: stew on October 27, 2017, 09:12:20 AM
Sick at the news. the fourth best manager in Scotland gone like a thong in October! The man is comedic gold, why did they have to fire Pedro? Pedro was so bad he was good................For Celtic, Partick, Motherwell, St Johnstone etc.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: playwiththewind1st on October 27, 2017, 01:56:26 PM
"You can't not be disappointed after losing a manger after seven months, but the board had to reach a decision which was in the best interests of the club in the long run.

"If a decision was going to be made, it was better sooner rather than later."

Maybe they'll go for a manager this time.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Targetman on October 27, 2017, 08:15:07 PM
Go on reinstated Peadar, he'll be better next time round!!
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: laoislad on August 26, 2018, 01:05:40 PM
Crazy first half.5 goals.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: charlieTully on August 26, 2018, 02:07:37 PM
Get in. Deserved a draw there.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: laoislad on August 26, 2018, 02:10:09 PM
First Scottish football game I've watched in ages. Enjoyed it. Not a great standard but that was entertaining enough.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Orior on August 26, 2018, 03:13:05 PM
Why have they not recruited Roy Carroll as keeper?
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: GJL on August 26, 2018, 04:26:07 PM
Quote from: Orior on August 26, 2018, 03:13:05 PM
Why have they not recruited Roy Carroll as keeper?
He would be a perfect fit for them. A complete piece of sh1t.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: charlieTully on August 26, 2018, 04:46:44 PM
Quote from: GJL on August 26, 2018, 04:26:07 PM
Quote from: Orior on August 26, 2018, 03:13:05 PM
Why have they not recruited Roy Carroll as keeper?
He would be a perfect fit for them. A complete piece of sh1t.

Pure sc**bag. Wtf was he at yesterday refusing to shake hands with cliftonville players?
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: From the Bunker on December 27, 2018, 01:02:27 PM
https://www.balls.ie/football/cant-laugh-rangers-tv-commentary-hibs-equaliser-403536?fbclid=IwAR1QCNMWKymYsCen7i2A9XmCllYDdBplAaKj7CiXzuLrojPdx_fUPE6KKXI (https://www.balls.ie/football/cant-laugh-rangers-tv-commentary-hibs-equaliser-403536?fbclid=IwAR1QCNMWKymYsCen7i2A9XmCllYDdBplAaKj7CiXzuLrojPdx_fUPE6KKXI)
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: illdecide on February 20, 2019, 11:27:48 PM
Kilmarnock manager Steve Clarke said he was subjected to sectarian abuse during his side's 5-0 Scottish Cup fifth-round replay defeat by Rangers.

Clarke said was assured that "we don't have that in the west of Scotland any more" when he was "approached by Rangers about taking the job" at Ibrox.

He added: "To call me a Fenian b******, where are we living? The dark ages?"

The Ayrshireman left St Mirren in 1987 to sign for Chelsea, returning to take over at Kilmarnock last October.

Morelos nets four as Rangers run riot
Reaction & as it happened
"They are not allowed to call my assistant [Alex Dyer] a 'black b', but they can call me a Fenian b******. What are we doing in Scotland?" added Clarke, who was linked with a move to Ibrox last spring.

"I wake up every morning and thank Chelsea for taking me away from the west of Scotland because my children don't understand this.

"Thankfully when I go down there my children don't have to worry about this. It's lovely being back in the west of Scotland."

Kilmarnock captain Kris Boyd said he was subjected to sectarian abuse during Sunday's game with Celtic at Rugby Park.

'The officials decided the game. It's embarrassing'
Four goals from Alfredo Morelos and another from Andy Halliday earned Rangers a quarter-final tie at Aberdeen.

However, all but one of those goals came after the controversial 25th-minute dismissal of Kilmarnock goalkeeper Daniel Bachmannn after his elbow struck the head of Glen Kamara while waiting for a corner.

Clarke described the red card as a "joke" and "embarrassing" and that we "might as well go home" if that is the standard of refereeing.

He also railed against Alan Muir's failure to award his side a second-minute penalty after Joe Worrall grappled with Eamonn Brophy.

"The officials decided the game. It's embarrassing," Clarke said. "If the penalty had been given in the first two minutes it would have been different.

"And the red card is a joke. The goalie just lifted his arms. Every goalie does it every week. It's embarrassing. If that's the standards we might as well go home.

"Why speak? It's every week. How can I talk about football tonight?"
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: clarshack on February 21, 2019, 02:17:06 PM
though it's not just in the west of Scotland. Hearts fans are just as bad.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Insane Bolt on February 21, 2019, 03:35:54 PM
Sectarianism in Scotland and N.Ireland is treated like racism in England.....brushed under the carpet....sure it's only fenians and ni##ers😡
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: michaelg on February 21, 2019, 05:06:26 PM
Quote from: Insane Bolt on February 21, 2019, 03:35:54 PM
Sectarianism in Scotland and N.Ireland is treated like racism in England.....brushed under the carpet....sure it's only fenians, huns. orange / black bastards and ni##ers😡
Fixed that for you there
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Insane Bolt on February 21, 2019, 06:34:16 PM
Quote from: michaelg on February 21, 2019, 05:06:26 PM
Quote from: Insane Bolt on February 21, 2019, 03:35:54 PM
Sectarianism in Scotland and N.Ireland is treated like racism in England.....brushed under the carpet....sure it's only fenians, huns. orange / black b**tards and ni##ers😡
Fixed that for you there

Thanks
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: michaelg on February 22, 2019, 12:22:54 AM
Quote from: Insane Bolt on February 21, 2019, 06:34:16 PM
Quote from: michaelg on February 21, 2019, 05:06:26 PM
Quote from: Insane Bolt on February 21, 2019, 03:35:54 PM
Sectarianism in Scotland and N.Ireland is treated like racism in England.....brushed under the carpet....sure it's only fenians, huns. orange / black b**tards and ni##ers😡
Fixed that for you there

Thanks
No probs. As you well know, sectarianism is a double edged sword in Scotland and NI.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on February 22, 2019, 12:36:21 AM
But not equal...

One side of it supported if not indeed sponsored by the establishment

Thankfully it's improving north of the border since the economy improved after GFA.

It's getting worse in Scotland.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: michaelg on February 22, 2019, 12:46:58 AM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on February 22, 2019, 12:36:21 AM
But not equal...

One side of it supported if not indeed sponsored by the establishment

Thankfully it's improving north of the border since the economy improved after GFA.

It's getting worse in Scotland.
Celtic are as much of the establishment as Rangers in Scotland ffs. How else would they have won 50 odd titles?
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on February 22, 2019, 01:15:18 AM
No.
They aren't.

The establishment in the north of Ireland showed it's inequality at every juncture... including making the north of Ireland soccer team a cold hell for Catholic Irish.

It's a dying breed and thankfully this rarely rears its head now ( save for the sectarian abuse netted out to visiting 26 county rugby teams playing 6 county based opposition in the 6 counties).

Scotland is going to mean Celtic have to get out of SPL and even into the bottom tier of Welsh league if they want to play on a somewhat fair playing field... on and off the pitch
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Insane Bolt on February 22, 2019, 08:36:05 AM
Quote from: michaelg on February 22, 2019, 12:22:54 AM
Quote from: Insane Bolt on February 21, 2019, 06:34:16 PM
Quote from: michaelg on February 21, 2019, 05:06:26 PM
Quote from: Insane Bolt on February 21, 2019, 03:35:54 PM
Sectarianism in Scotland and N.Ireland is treated like racism in England.....brushed under the carpet....sure it's only fenians, huns. orange / black b**tards and ni##ers😡
Fixed that for you there

Thanks
No probs. As you well know, sectarianism is a double edged sword in Scotland and NI.

Gerrard couldn't even call it out for what it was...why? Sectarianism in all forms is wrong....but anti Catholic sectarianism is tolerated/accepted at all levels in both N.I. and Scotland. I wouldn't expect you to have experienced the levels of sectarianism that most nationalists have, but please don't try and say one side is as bad as the other.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: illdecide on February 22, 2019, 09:20:27 AM
Steven Gerrard has questioned why Steve Clarke railed against the sectarian chanting he was subjected to at Ibrox on Wednesday night but made no comment on the similar abuse suffered by Kris Boyd during Kilmarnock's match with Celtic at the weekend. Clarke said that the west of Scotland was stuck in the "dark ages" after a section of the Rangers support directed chants of "sad Fenian bastard" towards the Kilmarnock manager towards the end of his team's 5-0 defeat in the Scottish Cup fifth round replay.
Gerrard, the Rangers manager, said he backed his club's stance, set out in a short statement issued yesterday, that "unacceptable behaviour will not be tolerated at Ibrox" and that "everything will be done to eradicate this kind of behaviour". But the former England captain also sought to present a contrast in Clarke's reaction on Wednesday and his handling of taunts of "sad Orange bastard" directed towards Boyd from the Celtic support as the Kilmarnock substitute warmed up during the 
Scottish champions' 1-0 win at Rugby Park on Sunday. Asked about the abuse Clarke was subjected to, Gerrard said: "Well I think it's happened in the last four or five days to Steve and his players. There was stuff said at Kilmarnock v Celtic as well at the weekend but Steve didn't want to really speak about the abuse that Boydy got. But obviously he's decided to speak about it last night. Superfast Broadband at an amazing price Enjoy Superfast Broadband at an amazing price with Sky Fibre Max for £27 a month. Promoted by Sky "All I can say is as a club we don't support any unacceptable behaviour from the terraces. Whatever that may be, whomever it may involve, we don't support it. We've made a statement on it and made that very clear. As a club we want to eradicate that type of stuff from the terraces." Gerrard said "of course" he was "aware" of sectarianism during his first season in Scotland. Without ever using referring to sectarianism directly, he sought to place it in the wider context of unacceptable behaviour, which he said is not unique to Scotland. "Individuals and small minorities at certain stadiums let themselves down unfortunately," he said. "That's not just in this league. I've had experience of it before. Of late, there's been different kind of abuse in football matches and as a football family we should all be trying to eradicate it from the terraces because it's unacceptable. I respect Steve's opinion on it but all I have to say as the manager of Rangers is we don't support it from fans on our terraces. We want it out, whatever kind of abuse it is we don't want it. Homophobic, racial, religion, we don't want it and we don't support it." Gerrard is in no doubt that recent events, coupled with incidents of coin throwing - most recently at Rugby Park where Boyd was hit on the elbow - besmirch the Scottish game, but football has issues worldwide. And he maintained it would be wrong simply to view Rangers' entire support through the prism of what befell Clarke. 'I think it tarnishes the game around the world when you see incidents of coin throwing, racism, homophobia, it tarnishes the game," the Rangers manager said. "The majority are doing their best to eradicate it but I don't think you can tar every supporter with the same brush. 'We had nearly 40,000 fans at that game on a cold Wednesday night for a cup game on the back of a poor performance against St Johnstone. There's a lot of praise to go to our supporters too. I thought they got behind the team and the players treated them to a very important result. Unfortunately there were a minority there and we will try and eradicate that from our support."
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: michaelg on February 22, 2019, 09:53:59 AM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on February 22, 2019, 01:15:18 AM
No.
They aren't.

The establishment in the north of Ireland showed it's inequality at every juncture... including making the north of Ireland soccer team a cold hell for Catholic Irish.

It's a dying breed and thankfully this rarely rears its head now ( save for the sectarian abuse netted out to visiting 26 county rugby teams playing 6 county based opposition in the 6 counties).

Scotland is going to mean Celtic have to get out of SPL and even into the bottom tier of Welsh league if they want to play on a somewhat fair playing field... on and off the pitch
Are you involved with a team and experienced this  first hand? 
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: michaelg on February 22, 2019, 09:58:34 AM
Quote from: Insane Bolt on February 22, 2019, 08:36:05 AM
Quote from: michaelg on February 22, 2019, 12:22:54 AM
Quote from: Insane Bolt on February 21, 2019, 06:34:16 PM
Quote from: michaelg on February 21, 2019, 05:06:26 PM
Quote from: Insane Bolt on February 21, 2019, 03:35:54 PM
Sectarianism in Scotland and N.Ireland is treated like racism in England.....brushed under the carpet....sure it's only fenians, huns. orange / black b**tards and ni##ers😡
Fixed that for you there

Thanks
No probs. As you well know, sectarianism is a double edged sword in Scotland and NI.

Gerrard couldn't even call it out for what it was...why? Sectarianism in all forms is wrong....but anti Catholic sectarianism is tolerated/accepted at all levels in both N.I. and Scotland. I wouldn't expect you to have experienced the levels of sectarianism that most nationalists have, but please don't try and say one side is as bad as the other.
Can you give examples of this in NI in 2019?  As for the one side not being as bad as the other, the trouble caused by Celtic fans in Spain is a case in point.  Celtic fans play up and it's police brutality, but when the same thing happens to Rangers fans away, it's thuggery, hooliganism etc.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: themac_23 on February 22, 2019, 10:02:58 AM
Quote from: michaelg on February 22, 2019, 09:58:34 AM
Quote from: Insane Bolt on February 22, 2019, 08:36:05 AM
Quote from: michaelg on February 22, 2019, 12:22:54 AM
Quote from: Insane Bolt on February 21, 2019, 06:34:16 PM
Quote from: michaelg on February 21, 2019, 05:06:26 PM
Quote from: Insane Bolt on February 21, 2019, 03:35:54 PM
Sectarianism in Scotland and N.Ireland is treated like racism in England.....brushed under the carpet....sure it's only fenians, huns. orange / black b**tards and ni##ers😡
Fixed that for you there

Thanks
No probs. As you well know, sectarianism is a double edged sword in Scotland and NI.

Gerrard couldn't even call it out for what it was...why? Sectarianism in all forms is wrong....but anti Catholic sectarianism is tolerated/accepted at all levels in both N.I. and Scotland. I wouldn't expect you to have experienced the levels of sectarianism that most nationalists have, but please don't try and say one side is as bad as the other.
Can you give examples of this in NI in 2019?  As for the one side not being as bad as the other, the trouble caused by Celtic fans in Spain is a case in point.  Celtic fans play up and it's police brutality, but when the same thing happens to Rangers fans away, it's thuggery, hooliganism etc.

You serious? Celtic do have a few idiot fans (as do all clubs) but what went on in Spain this week was completely down to police brutality and even locals have said as much, spanish police have a reputation for being very heavy handed with football fans and hitting first ask questions never, same as the dutch police
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: illdecide on February 22, 2019, 10:40:56 AM
Quote from: michaelg on February 22, 2019, 09:58:34 AM
Quote from: Insane Bolt on February 22, 2019, 08:36:05 AM
Quote from: michaelg on February 22, 2019, 12:22:54 AM
Quote from: Insane Bolt on February 21, 2019, 06:34:16 PM
Quote from: michaelg on February 21, 2019, 05:06:26 PM
Quote from: Insane Bolt on February 21, 2019, 03:35:54 PM
Sectarianism in Scotland and N.Ireland is treated like racism in England.....brushed under the carpet....sure it's only fenians, huns. orange / black b**tards and ni##ers😡
Fixed that for you there

Thanks
No probs. As you well know, sectarianism is a double edged sword in Scotland and NI.

Gerrard couldn't even call it out for what it was...why? Sectarianism in all forms is wrong....but anti Catholic sectarianism is tolerated/accepted at all levels in both N.I. and Scotland. I wouldn't expect you to have experienced the levels of sectarianism that most nationalists have, but please don't try and say one side is as bad as the other.
Can you give examples of this in NI in 2019?  As for the one side not being as bad as the other, the trouble caused by Celtic fans in Spain is a case in point.  Celtic fans play up and it's police brutality, but when the same thing happens to Rangers fans away, it's thuggery, hooliganism etc.

Michaelg i will agree with you on most things and Celtic have their fair share of idiots and I've seen them first hand but i have to disagree with you on Celtic fans causing trouble in Spain, the videos are all on line of fans walking calmly and police beating them across the legs with batons for nothing. Also a girl getting hit with a baton for filming scenes on her phone, this is not hearsay this is fact, I've watched them several times...trust me i'm all for you cause trouble you deserve what's coming to you especially in other countries abroad but call it what it is and if you'd have watched the numerous videos from the last few days you'd retract what you said...maybe you were just trying to wind up :-\
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Insane Bolt on February 22, 2019, 11:43:19 AM
Quote from: michaelg on February 22, 2019, 09:58:34 AM
Quote from: Insane Bolt on February 22, 2019, 08:36:05 AM
Quote from: michaelg on February 22, 2019, 12:22:54 AM
Quote from: Insane Bolt on February 21, 2019, 06:34:16 PM
Quote from: michaelg on February 21, 2019, 05:06:26 PM
Quote from: Insane Bolt on February 21, 2019, 03:35:54 PM
Sectarianism in Scotland and N.Ireland is treated like racism in England.....brushed under the carpet....sure it's only fenians, huns. orange / black b**tards and ni##ers😡
Fixed that for you there

Thanks
No probs. As you well know, sectarianism is a double edged sword in Scotland and NI.

Gerrard couldn't even call it out for what it was...why? Sectarianism in all forms is wrong....but anti Catholic sectarianism is tolerated/accepted at all levels in both N.I. and Scotland. I wouldn't expect you to have experienced the levels of sectarianism that most nationalists have, but please don't try and say one side is as bad as the other.
Can you give examples of this in NI in 2019?  As for the one side not being as bad as the other, the trouble caused by Celtic fans in Spain is a case in point.  Celtic fans play up and it's police brutality, but when the same thing happens to Rangers fans away, it's thuggery, hooliganism etc.

In 2019....well it's a bit early for the marching.....even for the loyal sons of Ulster😜.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: michaelg on February 22, 2019, 12:38:27 PM
Quote from: illdecide on February 22, 2019, 10:40:56 AM
Quote from: michaelg on February 22, 2019, 09:58:34 AM
Quote from: Insane Bolt on February 22, 2019, 08:36:05 AM
Quote from: michaelg on February 22, 2019, 12:22:54 AM
Quote from: Insane Bolt on February 21, 2019, 06:34:16 PM
Quote from: michaelg on February 21, 2019, 05:06:26 PM
Quote from: Insane Bolt on February 21, 2019, 03:35:54 PM
Sectarianism in Scotland and N.Ireland is treated like racism in England.....brushed under the carpet....sure it's only fenians, huns. orange / black b**tards and ni##ers😡
Fixed that for you there

Thanks
No probs. As you well know, sectarianism is a double edged sword in Scotland and NI.

Gerrard couldn't even call it out for what it was...why? Sectarianism in all forms is wrong....but anti Catholic sectarianism is tolerated/accepted at all levels in both N.I. and Scotland. I wouldn't expect you to have experienced the levels of sectarianism that most nationalists have, but please don't try and say one side is as bad as the other.
Can you give examples of this in NI in 2019?  As for the one side not being as bad as the other, the trouble caused by Celtic fans in Spain is a case in point.  Celtic fans play up and it's police brutality, but when the same thing happens to Rangers fans away, it's thuggery, hooliganism etc.

Michaelg i will agree with you on most things and Celtic have their fair share of idiots and I've seen them first hand but i have to disagree with you on Celtic fans causing trouble in Spain, the videos are all on line of fans walking calmly and police beating them across the legs with batons for nothing. Also a girl getting hit with a baton for filming scenes on her phone, this is not hearsay this is fact, I've watched them several times...trust me i'm all for you cause trouble you deserve what's coming to you especially in other countries abroad but call it what it is and if you'd have watched the numerous videos from the last few days you'd retract what you said...maybe you were just trying to wind up :-\
Not on the wind-up, and have seen some of those videos, but there tends to be no smoke without fire in these situations.  I just find it hard to believe that there was absolutely no provocation for the police to act in the way that they did.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: illdecide on February 22, 2019, 02:08:42 PM
Quote from: michaelg on February 22, 2019, 12:38:27 PM
Quote from: illdecide on February 22, 2019, 10:40:56 AM
Quote from: michaelg on February 22, 2019, 09:58:34 AM
Quote from: Insane Bolt on February 22, 2019, 08:36:05 AM
Quote from: michaelg on February 22, 2019, 12:22:54 AM
Quote from: Insane Bolt on February 21, 2019, 06:34:16 PM
Quote from: michaelg on February 21, 2019, 05:06:26 PM
Quote from: Insane Bolt on February 21, 2019, 03:35:54 PM
Sectarianism in Scotland and N.Ireland is treated like racism in England.....brushed under the carpet....sure it's only fenians, huns. orange / black b**tards and ni##ers😡
Fixed that for you there

Thanks
No probs. As you well know, sectarianism is a double edged sword in Scotland and NI.

Gerrard couldn't even call it out for what it was...why? Sectarianism in all forms is wrong....but anti Catholic sectarianism is tolerated/accepted at all levels in both N.I. and Scotland. I wouldn't expect you to have experienced the levels of sectarianism that most nationalists have, but please don't try and say one side is as bad as the other.
Can you give examples of this in NI in 2019?  As for the one side not being as bad as the other, the trouble caused by Celtic fans in Spain is a case in point.  Celtic fans play up and it's police brutality, but when the same thing happens to Rangers fans away, it's thuggery, hooliganism etc.

Michaelg i will agree with you on most things and Celtic have their fair share of idiots and I've seen them first hand but i have to disagree with you on Celtic fans causing trouble in Spain, the videos are all on line of fans walking calmly and police beating them across the legs with batons for nothing. Also a girl getting hit with a baton for filming scenes on her phone, this is not hearsay this is fact, I've watched them several times...trust me i'm all for you cause trouble you deserve what's coming to you especially in other countries abroad but call it what it is and if you'd have watched the numerous videos from the last few days you'd retract what you said...maybe you were just trying to wind up :-\
Not on the wind-up, and have seen some of those videos, but there tends to be no smoke without fire in these situations.  I just find it hard to believe that there was absolutely no provocation for the police to act in the way that they did.

The old "no smoke without fire" one...Seriously ::)
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Jim_Murphy_74 on February 22, 2019, 04:28:16 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on February 22, 2019, 01:15:18 AM
It's a dying breed and thankfully this rarely rears its head now ( save for the sectarian abuse netted out to visiting 26 county rugby teams playing 6 county based opposition in the 6 counties).

Really????

My interest in rugby doesn't go beyond TV and the occasional game but I have friends who are avid rugby followers (club and province) and they would have never reflected that to me.  I can't say they have denied either but if t was common I think they would have mentioned it.

/Jim.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: michaelg on February 22, 2019, 05:30:38 PM
Quote from: Jim_Murphy_74 on February 22, 2019, 04:28:16 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on February 22, 2019, 01:15:18 AM
It's a dying breed and thankfully this rarely rears its head now ( save for the sectarian abuse netted out to visiting 26 county rugby teams playing 6 county based opposition in the 6 counties).

Really????

My interest in rugby doesn't go beyond TV and the occasional game but I have friends who are avid rugby followers (club and province) and they would have never reflected that to me.  I can't say they have denied either but if t was common I think they would have mentioned it.

/Jim.
If anything, it could be the other way round.  Have heard in past amateur era how a few choice words, on and off pitch, would have come Ulster's way when playing inter-pros in Cork and Limerick.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on February 22, 2019, 06:04:35 PM
Quote from: michaelg on February 22, 2019, 09:53:59 AM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on February 22, 2019, 01:15:18 AM
No.
They aren't.

The establishment in the north of Ireland showed it's inequality at every juncture... including making the north of Ireland soccer team a cold hell for Catholic Irish.

It's a dying breed and thankfully this rarely rears its head now ( save for the sectarian abuse netted out to visiting 26 county rugby teams playing 6 county based opposition in the 6 counties).

Scotland is going to mean Celtic have to get out of SPL and even into the bottom tier of Welsh league if they want to play on a somewhat fair playing field... on and off the pitch
Are you involved with a team and experienced this  first hand?
Was.
Incidents from
Ulster junior rugby league
AIL all Ireland league

I am friendly with a lot of rugby players north and south and it's still there.
In fact two ex Irish internationals.. were joining in sectarian abuse..  10 or so years ago that was though
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Jim_Murphy_74 on February 23, 2019, 11:16:04 AM
Well well...

http://www.irishnews.com/sport/opinion/2019/02/22/news/the-gaa-must-do-more-to-address-british-and-queen-taunts-towards-northern-players-1554780/  (http://www.irishnews.com/sport/opinion/2019/02/22/news/the-gaa-must-do-more-to-address-british-and-queen-taunts-towards-northern-players-1554780/)

/Jim.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Insane Bolt on February 23, 2019, 11:52:55 AM
Quote from: Jim_Murphy_74 on February 23, 2019, 11:16:04 AM
Well well...

http://www.irishnews.com/sport/opinion/2019/02/22/news/the-gaa-must-do-more-to-address-british-and-queen-taunts-towards-northern-players-1554780/  (http://www.irishnews.com/sport/opinion/2019/02/22/news/the-gaa-must-do-more-to-address-british-and-queen-taunts-towards-northern-players-1554780/)

/Jim.

Personally I would laugh if someone called me 'british' in a gaa game.....but certainly do not find anything remotely funny in being called a fenian bastard.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Farrandeelin on February 23, 2019, 12:23:48 PM
Maybe the Laois fella was attributing his GSTQ to being from the Queen's County. ;)

Seriously, I think it's a disgrace to be honest. One thing that strikes me is the partitionist attitude of so-called GAA men. However, it can't be reffed properly so sadly the taunts (I would hope that they are a tiny minority by the way) can't entirely be properly scrutinised.

That goes for all sledging.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: general_lee on February 23, 2019, 01:02:03 PM
Quote from: Insane Bolt on February 23, 2019, 11:52:55 AM
Quote from: Jim_Murphy_74 on February 23, 2019, 11:16:04 AM
Well well...

http://www.irishnews.com/sport/opinion/2019/02/22/news/the-gaa-must-do-more-to-address-british-and-queen-taunts-towards-northern-players-1554780/  (http://www.irishnews.com/sport/opinion/2019/02/22/news/the-gaa-must-do-more-to-address-british-and-queen-taunts-towards-northern-players-1554780/)

/Jim.

Personally I would laugh if someone called me 'british' in a gaa game.....but certainly do not find anything remotely funny in being called a fenian b**tard.
It's really hilarious when you think about it. Imagine some west Brit gimp from Laois, who probably w**ks over Man U or Liverpool in their spare time, calling somone from Cullyhanna or Crossmaglen a Brit. These boys have uncles brothers cousins fathers grandparents who shot down Brit helicopters for fun ffs 😂
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Chrimtain on February 23, 2019, 01:16:10 PM
This incident was pretty embarrassing. However, he wasn't from Laois. He was actually from Kerry. He wore the Laois jersey but didn't represent the views of Laois GAA people.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: spuds on February 23, 2019, 02:27:29 PM
Quote from: Chrimtain on February 23, 2019, 01:16:10 PM
This incident was pretty embarrassing. However, he wasn't from Laois. He was actually from Kerry. He wore the Laois jersey but didn't represent the views of Laois GAA people.

The emotional Laoisman!!
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Gmac on February 23, 2019, 05:14:38 PM
Quote from: spuds on February 23, 2019, 02:27:29 PM
Quote from: Chrimtain on February 23, 2019, 01:16:10 PM
This incident was pretty embarrassing. However, he wasn't from Laois. He was actually from Kerry. He wore the Laois jersey but didn't represent the views of Laois GAA people.

The emotional Laoisman!!
did ye never hear of the nineteen men a missing
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Insane Bolt on February 25, 2019, 08:13:07 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/_lippylipez/status/1099440654374051841?s=08

Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: illdecide on February 25, 2019, 09:44:50 PM
Quote from: Insane Bolt on February 25, 2019, 08:13:07 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/_lippylipez/status/1099440654374051841?s=08

Unbelievable...or is it?
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: BennyCake on June 14, 2019, 06:56:56 PM
Ex-Rangers captain Fernando Ricksen in bad shape with Motor Neurone Disease. Was on news trying to raise awareness of the disease. He's nearing the end it seems. Only 42. Sad to see.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Over the Bar on June 14, 2019, 11:13:50 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on June 14, 2019, 06:56:56 PM
Ex-Rangers captain Fernando Ricksen in bad shape with Motor Neurone Disease. Was on news trying to raise awareness of the disease. He's nearing the end it seems. Only 42. Sad to see.

Very very sad. Puts things in perspective
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: illdecide on June 15, 2019, 09:37:59 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on June 14, 2019, 06:56:56 PM
Ex-Rangers captain Fernando Ricksen in bad shape with Motor Neurone Disease. Was on news trying to raise awareness of the disease. He's nearing the end it seems. Only 42. Sad to see.

Shocking stuff altogether...what do you say when you know they won't get better but you don't want them to pass on. Sad!!!
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: michaelg on June 15, 2019, 10:45:54 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on June 14, 2019, 06:56:56 PM
Ex-Rangers captain Fernando Ricksen in bad shape with Motor Neurone Disease. Was on news trying to raise awareness of the disease. He's nearing the end it seems. Only 42. Sad to see.
Horrendous disease.  Hard to argue against euthanasia when people get this.  An awful end to your life.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: BennyCake on June 15, 2019, 10:55:46 PM
Quote from: michaelg on June 15, 2019, 10:45:54 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on June 14, 2019, 06:56:56 PM
Ex-Rangers captain Fernando Ricksen in bad shape with Motor Neurone Disease. Was on news trying to raise awareness of the disease. He's nearing the end it seems. Only 42. Sad to see.
Horrendous disease.  Hard to argue against euthanasia when people get this.  An awful end to your life.

He got very emotional, very sad to see. It was hard enough watching his interview.  God knows what him and his family deal with every day.

I suppose it's the thing in people that they have to keep fighting. Have to hope that they'll come up with a cure to save you. I don't know, I think I'd be on the plane to Switzerland.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: michaelg on June 15, 2019, 10:59:15 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on June 15, 2019, 10:55:46 PM
Quote from: michaelg on June 15, 2019, 10:45:54 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on June 14, 2019, 06:56:56 PM
Ex-Rangers captain Fernando Ricksen in bad shape with Motor Neurone Disease. Was on news trying to raise awareness of the disease. He's nearing the end it seems. Only 42. Sad to see.
Horrendous disease.  Hard to argue against euthanasia when people get this.  An awful end to your life.

He got very emotional, very sad to see. It was hard enough watching his interview.  God knows what him and his family deal with every day.

I suppose it's the thing in people that they have to keep fighting. Have to hope that they'll come up with a cure to save you. I don't know, I think I'd be on the plane to Switzerland.
Unfortunate enough to know a few folk who have had MND - I too would be on plane to Switzerland.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Over the Bar on June 19, 2019, 12:04:01 AM
Derby sniffing around Stevie Starfish?
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: JimStynes on July 31, 2019, 03:02:05 PM
The Banter years not quite finished yet then?
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: screenexile on August 01, 2019, 08:56:25 PM
Jesus I've seen it all now Rangers playing County Tyrone in the SuperCup.

Having to support either of them would be like giving someone the choice to lose an arm or a leg they're well met!!
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: under the bar on August 01, 2019, 09:11:49 PM
Quote from: screenexile on August 01, 2019, 08:56:25 PM
Jesus I've seen it all now Rangers playing County Tyrone in the SuperCup.

Having to support either of them would be like giving someone the choice to lose an arm or a leg they're well met!!

Whereas to play for Derry they simply require no testicles... ;)
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Orior on August 23, 2019, 09:14:45 PM
Scottish police never heard anything bad, but Uefa did, lol

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49449628 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49449628)
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Dearg on February 13, 2021, 08:34:05 AM
Steven Gerrard was a fantastic footballer, a once in a generation talent who single handedly won a Champions League for Liverpool. Idiots will point to his unfortunate slip against Chelsea but his career speaks for itself.
I'm delighted to see him progress into a decent manager. He has a long way to go though and needs to prove himself in a proper league but so far he is doing an excellent job. Surely nothing now will stop him and Rangers winning  the League?
Would Liverpool fans take him back after Klopp? I'm not sure they would but if he takes on another club somewhere like the Championship or in Europe and does well then maybe they would.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on March 20, 2021, 09:12:59 AM
Are Rangers not a bit screwed with this latest incident. It's going to be difficult to prove what the guy said. He just denies he made a racist comment. A bit harder for the rangers lads to deny assault when the guy has the physical injuries.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: tonto1888 on March 20, 2021, 12:43:06 PM
Quote from: JPGJOHNNYG on March 20, 2021, 09:12:59 AM
Are Rangers not a bit screwed with this latest incident. It's going to be difficult to prove what the guy said. He just denies he made a racist comment. A bit harder for the rangers lads to deny assault when the guy has the physical injuries.

It's gonna be a hard one to prove but there were a few witnesses
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: general_lee on March 20, 2021, 01:15:26 PM
The Slavia Prague fans haven't covered themselves in glory with their banner.
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: From the Bunker on March 20, 2021, 06:55:40 PM
Quote from: general_lee on March 20, 2021, 01:15:26 PM
The Slavia Prague fans haven't covered themselves in glory with their banner.

This one?

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ew59BFUWQAMchzZ?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: StPatsAbu on March 21, 2021, 12:18:56 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 20, 2021, 06:55:40 PM
Quote from: general_lee on March 20, 2021, 01:15:26 PM
The Slavia Prague fans haven't covered themselves in glory with their banner.

This one?

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ew59BFUWQAMchzZ?format=jpg&name=small)
That banner was probably Rangers fans just after they'd heard they signed Kamara
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: sid waddell on March 21, 2021, 02:11:34 PM
Quote from: StPatsAbu on March 21, 2021, 12:18:56 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 20, 2021, 06:55:40 PM
Quote from: general_lee on March 20, 2021, 01:15:26 PM
The Slavia Prague fans haven't covered themselves in glory with their banner.

This one?

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ew59BFUWQAMchzZ?format=jpg&name=small)
That banner was probably Rangers fans just after they'd heard they signed Kamara

No, it wasn't

A little known fact is that Rangers signed a black player 34 years before Celtic ever did
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: bennydorano on February 17, 2022, 06:55:21 PM
Rangers having a ding ding in Germany. 3-1 up
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on February 17, 2022, 07:20:48 PM
Jeebus. Some scoreline
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Main Street on February 17, 2022, 07:45:50 PM
It was an excellent performance, if they win the tie it would copperfasten Celtic's direct entry to the CL group stages.
Keeep up the good work Rangers for the SPL's coefficient. 
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 24, 2022, 08:34:23 PM
Still in the tie
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: From the Bunker on February 24, 2022, 08:50:41 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 24, 2022, 08:34:23 PM
Still in the tie

Hope it's Dortmund you are talking about?
Title: Re: The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread
Post by: Targetman on February 24, 2022, 09:23:53 PM
Keep the cnuts in Europe, good chance it'll affect their domestic performances, and Celtic decided it was better if they took themselves out of Europe, we'll see what effect it has on them!!