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redandblackareback, your talking through your hole, as far as i know the Island didnt railroad any one and are not begging any one to return, check your facts and sources before posting that dribble.

How do the county board propose to enforce not permitted to be part of any team above u16 level, id be interested to know, as there may have been other candidates for the u21 post had it been known that in fact that condition doesnt really apply, its a shame because i thought we had turned a corner with this appointment.

Galahead are you  reading what they are writing about your club Burren, seems some posters on here might have your measure, regards Kilcoo they have won 5 in a row ,have Burren achieved this in the past,will Kilcoo win Ulster this year, any knowledgeable magpie supporter will tell you they are looking no further than sunday,
as for Burren they are looking to next year, again.
Galahead you also must be in your 60s as we havent had a thirds team since the 80s!!!!!

I have to say that i am disappointed by the smug attitude of some posters on this forum, it shows a fundamental lack of fair play within this county and shows a bias towards south down clubs, Galahead you are right in one respect we have a problem regarding numbers and that has caused us problems,your pick is from the greater warrenpoint/newry area and has been for some time,however occasionally we get a team who can compete and has competed with your club and fecking beat yous ,now when our rudderless club next beats you i hope you are there, in the meantime concentrate on your own demise.

An Riocht beat Leitrim minors by 5 points last night , so its Div 2 for the Island next yer, bitterly disappointed in the guys who run our county, they have shafted our club for the second year running, its ironic tht when they want financial support they come running, our club down through the years have always supported our county and this is how we are treated, at the last count 7 clubs had not paid their player ins, there are several clubs who owe thousands in back fees, do these clubs receive sanctions ? , course they dont.
There are no rules or by laws regarding fair play within the Gaa , its something that should be looked at, good luck to Downpatrick in Div 1 next year, An Riocht ,you reap what you sow!!!!

AS,never been away, nothing to comment on,absolutely nothing, good to see team of 91 paraded before Ulster final , great memories.

As ,I'm certainly not embarrassed to be a member of the island , as a matter of fact I'm extremely proud to be not only an island Gael but a down Gael,and as such would take an active interest in both organisation s well being,I'm not saying we are perfect but if we run our club the way Down GAA is being run we would be out of business.In your post you finally acknowledged we have problems,you didn't specify but nevertheless accepted they are there.
Ok to yourself , Paudie and all the supporters of the current executive, tell me and the rest of the non supporters what you think the problems are and how your going to address them, and with particular reference to our finances give me a blow by blow account of how we are in a financial quick sand with no prospect of getting out of it and how this situation will be turned around.
No personal attacks not that there ever was no photographs because I think that's wrong and I'm not ashamed or embarrassed of what I have said and certainly look forward to the day to be given the opportunity in an open forum to put forward relevant questions and hopefully be get answers.

AS what club are you from, I'm unsure to what you refer to but if you have a logical explanation as to why the county are in the mess we are in , please share it with us , and at the same time explain in detail how we are going to get out of the mess,and because you are obviously so knowledgeable about all things Down GAA enlighten us with how you see the next 2 - 3 years panning out on and of the field under the current regime , I only want what's best for Down GAA but what will it take before people like yourself suddenly realise that we have major problems and they ain't going away without change or maybe your happy with what is currently going on.

Paudi you really do toe the party line, granted there are some clubs behind in fees , there are even clubs who are refusing to pay the increased public liability insurance because the reasons given for the increase are spurious , all the clubs in Ireland are not faced with the same hike,you haven't mentioned anything about the mis management of funds or the fact that certain individuals on the county ex are still in charge of county finances to the tune of hundreds of thousands when the same click couldn't run a tuck shop.
It's easy to criticise the clubs but the fault lies to a large extent elsewhere .

Most if what is posted here has a common thread and all believe that 1
1.Our finances are in a terrible mess , we need a plan of action,and we need shot of the individuals who have got us into this mess.
2.We have got to focus on our youth via the schools , the underage development squads , which I believe is happening but more is needed , a greater emphasis needs to be put on this development by the clubs.We are playing catch up in this regard compared to other counties.
3.Our senior team is not competitive , not the fault of the current players one could argue nor the current management but seriously was Eamonn the Nos 1 target to replace Jim McCorry,this appointment clearly showed the county executive for whatever reason decided to replace this man with no one in mind to take over.
The common denominator in all of these is the influence of Sean og , I have said on here before he maybe a staunch Gael , a hard worker but no one can convince me that his influence has contributed to this county s demise ,he needs replacing , i can see no reasonable case for him to stay.

Will Thurs county board meeting start the process where we see fundamental change in how our county is run - answer NO
Same retoric will be trotted out,i e it's wrong for people in Down to have a go at Sean og and maybe the police will be informed ,again,the executive is doing its best , Eamonn has inherited at lot of the current problems and it will take time, finances will soon be sorted again and let's see where we go from here, sounds familiar , heard it all before , recent poster said that the time for change would be the county convention, would be if the rules were followed , example,the election of our current chairman when his main rival was ignored by press supposedly due to a convenient mistake by pro on executive.
Time for root and branch change , can't wait for next open meeting!!

i will be amazed if anything of note comes out of next weeks county board meeting, no action on our swift exit of this years football championships, our hurling teams performance ,a mate of mine waiting on his winners cheque from the county draw(only 2 months waiting)and the unfair abuse our county secretarys getting.On the latter i would say it will get a mention after all its not all his fault the county is in the state it is and please no peace camps outside pairc esler.

I agree with you Paudi on several points and maybe my proposal is pie in the sky but it is only a proposal, I've heard no other alternatives put on here , OK the damage is done we are all in agreement with that, it's how we fix it, it's obvious there is opposition to the removal of certain individuals and it will take time to dis lodge them , however in the interim we have to get this burden of paying 10k per month to Croke Park reduced, I'm not for one second saying we shirk from our responsibilities but we have to go to them with a feasible plan, otherwise we face financial ruin, with our monthly draw unable to pay the prizes out it will be a hard sell next year with all the adverse publicity flying about,payment of expenses may be taken out of our hands but to centralise this may be problematic.
So two suggestions
1.Set up a small sub committee tasked to go to Croke Park to get a new deal, these men are not to be members of the executive and that includes Sean og
2.The. day to day running of the counties finances be taken out if Sean og s hands as he clearly is unable to do the job
Any suggestions on who will go to Croke Park

To all the nodding dogs , the puppets and the supporters of the Burrenbridge brigade, this is my suggestion of the way forward with our finances because if we can sort this subject out we maybe able to pay our bills on time and every time and propress the notion of a centre of excellence.
Firstly to take a step forward we have to realise where we are and why we got here.
When the Burrenbridge brigade decided to go of on a solo without the backing of the full county board and the support of Croke Park (this is key),they acted as if they were property moguls which they certainly werent and their inexperience in dealing with this type of deal ultimately lead us to losing 550k, coupled with the fact that 2 possibly 3 of them had failed in business, therefore in all probability they were never going to succeed, they were well intentioned but clueless .
But where you are now asking did the other 1million of debt come from, ah for that answer you would need a forensic accountant to examine the finances of Pairc Esler , i for one like many others paid a monthly amount for 5 yrs, no big deal but there were many who questioned where this money and the money of the club down then went, im not suggesting any skull duggery but more of mis management of resources.
So the men in charge suddenly needed a few bob to finish the job, in steps Croke Park and hey presto we get the job done, oh and Newry Shamrocks own the fecking thing, side issue.
Now back to Burrenbridge where we handed over a non refundable deposit of 425k ,and then threw125k in fees at it,back to Croke Park who knew nothing of what was going on and were not a bit pleased, so much so that we now pay 10k a month for the next 20yrs to Croke Park, but according to Sean og i mmean the executive we have a good deal, eh no we dont by my maths we will be paying 2.4miliion back how the f  k is that a good deal, our association made 56million profit  last year,so the answer is quite simple we as members ask for the loan to be interest free , we extend the term to 100yrs , paying 15k back a year not 120k , we can then begin to invest in our youth,and our training facilities and breathe a little.Now to succeed in a debt restructuring like this we need hard nosed business people skilled in the art of restructuring debt.
I know there are people reading this saying 100yrs catch yourself on but if we went to Croke park and told them this is it take it or leave, they cant kick us out, its either give us the money or accept the request , so there you have it.

Ah well , let's continue the way we are, sure the situation will fix itself,there will be a few pound coming into the county accounts to pay all the o/s prizes from the forthcoming county championship, the county team expenses won't be that much as we are out early again and our lack of cash flow will be sorted.
You just couldn't make it up,sometimes fact is stranger than fiction.