PAY-FOR-PLAY

Started by vetoldthe, October 03, 2018, 07:06:29 PM

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Milltown Row2

Quote from: APM on October 03, 2018, 11:47:46 PM
The GAA has a serious problem in that there are a huge number of members of the association that are only in it for what money they can get out of it.  There are also a huge number of egos around the country that are happy to try to pay for success for their club. Put these two trends together and you have an arms race.  The cost of running clubs and counties is getting out of hand and the money is being paid out for charlatans that provide services that in many cases aren't even necessary. 

In this context, why then would anyone be surprised that some players would want to be paid.  But imagine wanting to be paid for playing a game - what a joke?

Yes there are some managers getting paid, even if we have 32 managers at county level getting 'paid' (travel expenses, coaching staff) and phyiso's for each, though they are getting a wage not a new yacht thats still 64 getting paid, at admin level people are getting paid, but how much? would this not be easy to see? from the cleaners up to the County Sec's as far as I'm aware they are not getting a CEO wage and are there to do a job, players getting paid is rare enough if you look at the association as a whole..

Now unless you know of someone getting an extortionate amount of money for doing feck all, then to me its a job, County Sec's, school coaches, admin staff and the rest are not making a killing here... who is?  Some club managers that are getting paid by clubs (or a rich clubman) to look after their senior teams that has nothing to do with Croke Park
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

CJ2017

Article on balls.ie relating to earnings of players saying.

"One GAA Player Said To Be Earning Circa €140k Per Year From Sponsorship Deals"

https://www.balls.ie/gaa/gaa-players-sponsorship-deals-387092

Rossfan

Good luck to the "Said" player.
Presumably a Dublin player?
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

Mourne Red

Quote from: Rossfan on October 04, 2018, 03:57:29 PM
Good luck to the "Said" player.
Presumably a Dublin player?

This is old news, was Bernard Brogan - Why shouldn't he milk the sponsors? Im sure everyone on this board would do the same if they were in his shoes

westbound

That article is from April!

Minder

Joe scanning would be up there, UNICEF, Red Bull, Adidas. I'm sure there are a few more
"When it's too tough for them, it's just right for us"

From the Bunker

#21
Not getting paid back in the good old days was grand! Why? Because it was not all life consuming like it is today. Amateur is ok when what you do is little more than a hobby. Today's intercounty footballer especially from Division One counties are getting asked to do too much and more so asked to give up more and more.


The GAA want their Butter on both sides they want to charge professional prices for games, yet get the attraction to do it for free!

Milltown Row2

So where is the money going, can anyone actually give an answer to that? It seems people on here believe that someone is making a fortune at Croke Park..

Players striking deals with sponsors and club willing to pay silly fees to 'expert' managers (though again they are generally paid for by a backer) is ok, I've no problem with it, but a professional GAA is never going to happen unless it goes global, and that's not going to happen
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

caprea


omaghjoe

Quote from: caprea on October 04, 2018, 07:18:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 04, 2018, 06:57:54 PM
a professional GAA is never going to happen

Why?

Revenue

Also the fact that most of the administration is done voluntary...

From the Bunker

Quote from: omaghjoe on October 04, 2018, 07:30:26 PM
Quote from: caprea on October 04, 2018, 07:18:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 04, 2018, 06:57:54 PM
a professional GAA is never going to happen

Why?

Revenue

Also the fact that most of the administration is done voluntary...

Administration at what level is voluntary?

caprea

Quote from: omaghjoe on October 04, 2018, 07:30:26 PM
Quote from: caprea on October 04, 2018, 07:18:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 04, 2018, 06:57:54 PM
a professional GAA is never going to happen

Why?

Revenue

Also the fact that most of the administration is done voluntary...

You can say "revenue" but I don't understand what that's meant to mean.

You happen to know what the county game is worth to the GAA in gate receipts, tv revenue and sponsorship?

screenexile

Were there not a few clubs in Dublin offering decent culchies a few quid to play for them??

Rossfan

Quote from: omaghjoe on October 04, 2018, 07:30:26 PM
Quote from: caprea on October 04, 2018, 07:18:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 04, 2018, 06:57:54 PM
a professional GAA is never going to happen

Why?

Revenue.
Exactly -money isn't there for it.
32 football teams and say top 16 hurling teams = 1,440 professional players who'd have to get about €70k each to make it worte their while giving up work for 10 years  = about €10m on wages.
Add in managers, coaches trainers, administrators,  bottle carriers,  tea ladies etc probably  €2m more.
Insurance,travel,....

Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

caprea

Quote from: screenexile on October 04, 2018, 07:42:50 PM
Were there not a few clubs in Dublin offering decent culchies a few quid to play for them??

But sure that's nothing really to do with it in respect.

The best intercounty players generate income, millions a year, that's why the game will go pro in the next few years.