County Manager Merry go round

Started by Rossfan, August 11, 2015, 02:39:34 PM

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Derryman forever

Im not sure Mickey can develop the players that Derry had last couple of years
But i think he can and will expand the panel and develop those players that appeared to be struggling with RGs approach.
Mickey wont alienate players and given, that he will have little or no bias to particular players , I  think he has the profile and experience to develop the squad .
Of course these things can and often do go pear shaped . But in my opinion he is the best man for the job. 

He may well be there for the money.
Or the Glory , or to stick it to tyrone. But if he delivers i don't care.
And honestly i don't think he is there for the money or to stick it to Tyrone

Blowitupref

#2431
From no senior All Ireland in their history to winning three All Ireland titles in the space of 6 years is surely legendary status in the eyes of majority Tyrone heads regardless if Mickey Harte overstayed with them after that success. He also won All Ireland titles for Tyrone in 1998 (Minors) 2000,2001 (U21) so a total of 6 All Ireland titles in the space of a decade.
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

tyrone08

Quote from: JoG2 on September 22, 2023, 02:33:38 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on September 22, 2023, 12:48:31 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on September 22, 2023, 12:35:27 PMStrange folk across the county border, very very hard pleased

Lets see how derry do with him and how they feel after the 3 year period.

Let's, but I find it hard to process you boys belittling and hating on the man who delivered you 3, yes 3 All Ireland titles! Not wise

For myself it was the last number of years before he left tyrone that he started to annoy me. His refusal to change his approach and his arrogance done it for me, you only have to read a few of the ex players quotes to see they weren't too happy with Harte.

ONeill

Hope Mickey does well but he has his work cut out with them hoors.
I wanna have my kicks before the whole shithouse goes up in flames.

seafoid

Quote from: ONeill on September 23, 2023, 06:49:34 AMHope Mickey does well but he has his work cut out with them hoors.
He needs to find a few younger players and fast track them. He'll be working on their mindset. He may be able to pull it off.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

Blowitupref

Quote from: seafoid on September 23, 2023, 03:59:04 PM
Quote from: ONeill on September 23, 2023, 06:49:34 AMHope Mickey does well but he has his work cut out with them hoors.
He needs to find a few younger players and fast track them. He'll be working on their mindset. He may be able to pull it off.

Shouldn't be that hard to find with Derry U17s winning the 2020 and this years All-Ireland title although this year group will need plenty of strength and conditioning work before making the step up to senior level.
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

Derryman forever

Mickey does have a good record of nurturing young Talent. And Derry does have some potential in that.
There are a few young lads already training with the squad but not breaking through. Also i expect mickey to enlarge the Squad and there are  a few that wouldn't play for Gallagher that will be hopefully be making themselves available.
I am quite optimistic really.

Wildweasel74

If he gets E Bradley and, J Doherty back it be a big plus, if he can get C McGrogan to come also. Few other players along with a No. Of U-20, few of the better lads weren't on the panel or left very early last year. If Big Brown had been back in the country to bolster the full forward spot, I been more confident. As it is, Derry need to find 2 forwards for next year.

ONeill

Looking forward til the McKenna Cup already.
I wanna have my kicks before the whole shithouse goes up in flames.

trailer

Quote from: Derryman forever on September 23, 2023, 04:32:06 PMMickey does have a good record of nurturing young Talent. And Derry does have some potential in that.
There are a few young lads already training with the squad but not breaking through. Also i expect mickey to enlarge the Squad and there are  a few that wouldn't play for Gallagher that will be hopefully be making themselves available.
I am quite optimistic really.

Mickey has zero interest in nurturing talent. He's there for what?... max 3 years, probably less is it goes badly. The man is 71. It's a pay day he's looking for. He won't have time to let young lads find their feet.

seafoid

Quote from: trailer on September 25, 2023, 11:25:40 AM
Quote from: Derryman forever on September 23, 2023, 04:32:06 PMMickey does have a good record of nurturing young Talent. And Derry does have some potential in that.
There are a few young lads already training with the squad but not breaking through. Also i expect mickey to enlarge the Squad and there are  a few that wouldn't play for Gallagher that will be hopefully be making themselves available.
I am quite optimistic really.

Mickey has zero interest in nurturing talent. He's there for what?... max 3 years, probably less is it goes badly. The man is 71. It's a pay day he's looking for. He won't have time to let young lads find their feet.

Quote from: trailer on September 25, 2023, 11:25:40 AM
Quote from: Derryman forever on September 23, 2023, 04:32:06 PMMickey does have a good record of nurturing young Talent. And Derry does have some potential in that.
There are a few young lads already training with the squad but not breaking through. Also i expect mickey to enlarge the Squad and there are  a few that wouldn't play for Gallagher that will be hopefully be making themselves available.
I am quite optimistic really.

Mickey has zero interest in nurturing talent. He's there for what?... max 3 years, probably less is it goes badly. The man is 71. It's a pay day he's looking for. He won't have time to let young lads find their feet.

that is a subjective opinion presented as an objective statement. Derry will have someone else responsible for talent development anyway
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

twohands!!!

It will be interesting to see if Derry use more of the lads in the squad under Harte compared to Gallagher.
Surely there will be a change in approach in terms of Derry's use of the subs bench.

There's also the possibility of getting lads who were outside the panel previously to join up.
However given his previous form with Tyrone it's not like there will be a mad rush of lads bursting down the door to sign up especially if you are a forward given how many negative reports of what playing under him is like.

I really can't see Harte being very concerned with long-term development of youth given he's unlikely to see any benefit from it. That's pretty standard with outside managers in all sports, nevermind one in his 70s.

Rossfan

Louth, Tipp, Waterford and Laois still looking?
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

Captain Obvious

Quote from: twohands!!! on September 25, 2023, 01:29:54 PMIt will be interesting to see if Derry use more of the lads in the squad under Harte compared to Gallagher.
Surely there will be a change in approach in terms of Derry's use of the subs bench.

There's also the possibility of getting lads who were outside the panel previously to join up.
However given his previous form with Tyrone it's not like there will be a mad rush of lads bursting down the door to sign up especially if you are a forward given how many negative reports of what playing under him is like.

I really can't see Harte being very concerned with long-term development of youth given he's unlikely to see any benefit from it. That's pretty standard with outside managers in all sports, nevermind one in his 70s.

He'll hardly do a Gallagher on it whereby he wouldn't allow Lachlann Murray play for Derry U20s in their knock out tie and instead played him for two minutes for the seniors against Fermanagh.

ck

Quote from: Captain Obvious on September 25, 2023, 05:41:16 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on September 25, 2023, 01:29:54 PMIt will be interesting to see if Derry use more of the lads in the squad under Harte compared to Gallagher.
Surely there will be a change in approach in terms of Derry's use of the subs bench.

There's also the possibility of getting lads who were outside the panel previously to join up.
However given his previous form with Tyrone it's not like there will be a mad rush of lads bursting down the door to sign up especially if you are a forward given how many negative reports of what playing under him is like.

I really can't see Harte being very concerned with long-term development of youth given he's unlikely to see any benefit from it. That's pretty standard with outside managers in all sports, nevermind one in his 70s.

He'll hardly do a Gallagher on it whereby he wouldn't allow Lachlann Murray play for Derry U20s in their knock out tie and instead played him for two minutes for the seniors against Fermanagh.

I'd expect Harte to be fairer than that. Will have the ability to see the bigger picture and the importance of younger players playing with their own age group.