Jarlath Burns and Larry McCarthy the frontrunners, I hear. McCarthy would be a strong candidate. Hugely qualified, and would have a global perspective.
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on February 26, 2020, 02:12:45 AM
Jarlath Burns and Larry McCarthy the frontrunners, I hear. McCarthy would be a strong candidate. Hugely qualified, and would have a global perspective.
I would want Jarlath Burns, id imagine he is favorite.
Correct Greatest - he is 4/5 favourite.
Always seems very level headed and would hope he would bring a level of 'realism' to the position.
Someone said before he is head of a large school - wonder what would happen to his role if he was to win the Presidency
Quote from: Taylor on February 26, 2020, 08:34:39 AM
Correct Greatest - he is 4/5 favourite.
Always seems very level headed and would hope he would bring a level of 'realism' to the position.
Someone said before he is head of a large school - wonder what would happen to his role if he was to win the Presidency
the same JB who suggested doing away with Amhran na bhFiann??????
Quote from: Taylor on February 26, 2020, 08:34:39 AM
Correct Greatest - he is 4/5 favourite.
Always seems very level headed and would hope he would bring a level of 'realism' to the position.
Someone said before he is head of a large school - wonder what would happen to his role if he was to win the Presidency
Realism? :o
Q. Are you saying then that you'd have no reluctance in hauling down the green, white and orange flag flying over a GAA pitch, your own club or any other GAA club throughout Northern Ireland or without the island of Ireland?
A. Yeah, it wouldn't cost me a thought
Quote from: Taylor on February 26, 2020, 08:34:39 AM
Correct Greatest - he is 4/5 favourite.
Always seems very level headed and would hope he would bring a level of 'realism' to the position.
Someone said before he is head of a large school - wonder what would happen to his role if he was to win the Presidency
normally they go on career break and get paid the same amount as they were getting . thought there are suggestions this time a flat figure be used
Quote from: Tyrdub on February 26, 2020, 08:39:44 AM
Quote from: Taylor on February 26, 2020, 08:34:39 AM
Correct Greatest - he is 4/5 favourite.
Always seems very level headed and would hope he would bring a level of 'realism' to the position.
Someone said before he is head of a large school - wonder what would happen to his role if he was to win the Presidency
the same JB who suggested doing away with Amhran na bhFiann??????
Context
For those who would like the entirety of what he said - here's a link to the interview with Eamonn Mallie.
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/id-haul-down-tricolour-if-it-would-make-gaa-more-acceptable-to-unionists-31563469.html (https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/id-haul-down-tricolour-if-it-would-make-gaa-more-acceptable-to-unionists-31563469.html)
I seldom see a Tricolour at Club grounds.
When the new All Ireland State comes there will be a new flag.
Meanwhile sports organisations in the North should simply fly their Organisations flag.
The idea that Jarlath Burns is some sort of anti-republican is hilarious.
Quote from: five points on February 26, 2020, 10:18:13 AM
The idea that Jarlath Burns is some sort of anti-republican is hilarious.
Its a valid point he made. I dont think it will happen for quite some time yet.
Never heard of the others tbh,
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2019/0927/1078629-new-yorks-mccarthy-enters-race-for-gaa-presidency/
Quote from: Rossfan on February 26, 2020, 10:16:08 AM
I seldom see a Tricolour at Club grounds.
When the new All Ireland State comes there will be a new flag.
Meanwhile sports organisations in the North should simply fly their Organisations flag.
I have to agree completely.
I think the GAA should concentrate on, well, being the GAA and leave politics of any sort on the sideline.. A short while ago, during the abortion controversy, we had the likes of Mickey Harte and Joe Sheridan trying to use their GAA profiles to highlight their opposition to a change in the law. I think i's fair to say that the reaction to their publicity stunt was overwhelmingly negative.
The overall reaction was that it is unacceptable to bring matters of religious beliefs into sport. In simple terms, using the GAA to promote any religious agenda is unacceptable - the majority of its supporters.
The association has a policy of staying aloof of party politics; I'd go further and say that politics of any sort should have no place in our national games.
Quote from: Rossfan on February 26, 2020, 10:16:08 AM
I seldom see a Tricolour at Club grounds.
When the new All Ireland State comes there will be a new flag.
Meanwhile sports organisations in the North should simply fly their Organisations flag.
What I like most about this post is the confirmation that you see the tricolour at club grounds without pontificating what sports organisations in the south, east and west should do re flags?
Way back to the shires lad.
Quote from: tiempo on February 26, 2020, 03:20:12 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 26, 2020, 10:16:08 AM
I seldom see a Tricolour at Club grounds.
When the new All Ireland State comes there will be a new flag.
Meanwhile sports organisations in the North should simply fly their Organisations flag.
What I like most about this post is the confirmation that you see the tricolour at club grounds without pontificating what sports organisations in the south, east and west should do re flags?
Way back to the shires lad.
Flags are somewhat less of a contentious issue in the south, east and west.
Quote from: tiempo on February 26, 2020, 03:20:12 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 26, 2020, 10:16:08 AM
I seldom see a Tricolour at Club grounds.
When the new All Ireland State comes there will be a new flag.
Meanwhile sports organisations in the North should simply fly their Organisations flag.
What I like most about this post is the confirmation that you see the tricolour at club grounds without pontificating what sports organisations in the south, east and west should do re flags?
Way back to the shires lad.
Translation anyone?
Quote from: Rossfan on February 26, 2020, 04:39:05 PM
Quote from: tiempo on February 26, 2020, 03:20:12 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 26, 2020, 10:16:08 AM
I seldom see a Tricolour at Club grounds.
When the new All Ireland State comes there will be a new flag.
Meanwhile sports organisations in the North should simply fly their Organisations flag.
What I like most about this post is the confirmation that you see the tricolour at club grounds without pontificating what sports organisations in the south, east and west should do re flags?
Way back to the shires lad.
Translation anyone?
It meant that you were a partitionist west Brit.
As opposed to a true purist cave dwelling "Gale" ;D
Quote from: Rossfan on February 26, 2020, 10:16:08 AM
I seldom see a Tricolour at Club grounds.
When the new All Ireland State comes there will be a new flag.
Meanwhile sports organisations in the North should simply fly their Organisations flag.
Most club grounds I know down south would have a tri colour up for championship games
They would up here too I think.
Quote from: Rossfan on February 26, 2020, 09:09:56 PM
As opposed to a true purist cave dwelling "Gale" ;D
Is that what you call youself?
All good in the shires of Roscommon, nothing to see here.
Quote from: Rossfan on February 26, 2020, 10:16:08 AM
I seldom see a Tricolour at Club grounds.
When the new All Ireland State comes there will be a new flag.
Meanwhile sports organisations in the North should simply fly their Organisations flag.
I will not be commenting on any reply you make to this but as someone who resides in the North, I for one am just sick of your absolute crap. The fact you meant this and not as a wind up shows you really have no clue about what you be talking about on this matter no matter what spoof you come out with.
Quote from: tiempo on February 26, 2020, 11:35:58 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 26, 2020, 09:09:56 PM
As opposed to a true purist cave dwelling "Gale" ;D
Is that what you call youself?
All good in the shires of Roscommon, nothing to see here.
What or who the fck are these " shires"?
Do you mean the Shines?
Jarlath Burns is a born leader who imo would make an excellent President of our wonderful organisation.
He seems to have been born for the role alright.
He was helping out with the TG4 Gradam gig last Sunday which won't have done him any harm either.
I presume our Mick Rock has no chance.
Jarlath Burns 4/5
Larry McCarthy 2/1
Jerry OSullivan 13/2
Mick Rock 15/2
Jim Bolger 11/1
Not fussed on Jarlath tbh. That said he certainly fits the "criteria" to be president.
Jarlath always seems a thoughtful, articulate, intelligent fellow to me when I hear him speak.
I think he'd be an excellent president.
I will not be commenting on any reply you make to this but as someone who resides in the North, I for one am just sick of your absolute crap. The fact you meant this and not as a wind up shows you really have no clue about what you be talking about on this matter no matter what spoof you come out with.
I'd like to think I know where you are coming from and I'm fairly certain that if I lived where you do, I'd be a bit bullish about f;ying the tricolour and all that goes with it.
However, I live in the Republic and so I see things differently- a wee bit anyway.
I'd like to see a UI in my lifetime. I can't see this happening, nor in my childrens' time either. I mean the GFA is only 25 years old or thereabouts and the row between Taigs and Prods has gone on since long before the Battle of the Boyne.
However any Nationalist who really wants to see this island undivided knows there is work to be done and that includes being onciliarory to Prods with genuine concerns for their personal safety and their heritage.
Let's say you go to a GAA game; are you going for enjoyment's sake and to support the local side or are you really going to give the two fingers to the Prods who lorded it over you and your parents, grandparents etc. for generations?
Flying the Tricolour and bawling out Amhrán na bFhiann may express your cultural identity and your defiance to the billy boys but it won't improve the chances of a UI anytime soon. If it ever comes to pass that a majority north of the border wants a peaceful transition to a united country, there still remains the need for the electorate in the south to hold a referendum to approve a constitutional change.
Not too many down here would relish the idea of sectarian brawling, leading inevitably to violence and bloodshed. I really don't give a damn if unionists take to Gaelic football or not.
I'm convinced that, given time, some of them will judge the game on its merits and will take to it. Afterall, people of all shades and ethnic backgrounds in many countries are only too happy to play our game so why should it be any different with members of our separated brethren north of the border?
Back when the GAA was founded, there was every reason to use the GAA to promote cultural identity but I don't think the same need exists now. I'd like to see religion, politics and sectarian overtones of any sort kept away from GAA grounds all over the island.
Always struck me as a lickspittle.
No wonder he is favourite.
Jarlath demonizing the GPA while looking to be president of an association that pays €1.875 million to its executives and that makes all its major decisions with money the foremost consideration.
Staggering hypocrisy
Quote from: Rossfan on February 27, 2020, 09:26:06 AM
Quote from: tiempo on February 26, 2020, 11:35:58 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 26, 2020, 09:09:56 PM
As opposed to a true purist cave dwelling "Gale" ;D
Is that what you call youself?
All good in the shires of Roscommon, nothing to see here.
What or who the fck are these " shires"?
Do you mean the Shines?
The shires of Roscommon our fella, a demilitrised zone for quislings.
Jarlath will only be keeping the seat warm for Dick Clerkin.
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on February 27, 2020, 01:39:40 PM
Jarlath will only be keeping the seat warm for Dick Clerkin.
The GAA would have no interest in voting in someone as personally unpopular as Dick.
Quote from: tiempo on February 27, 2020, 01:07:02 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 27, 2020, 09:26:06 AM
Quote from: tiempo on February 26, 2020, 11:35:58 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 26, 2020, 09:09:56 PM
As opposed to a true purist cave dwelling "Gale" ;D
Is that what you call youself?
All good in the shires of Roscommon, nothing to see here.
What or who the fck are these " shires"?
Do you mean the Shines?
The shires of Roscommon our fella, a demilitrised zone for quislings.
Is shires an Ulster Scotch word?
What is it in standard English?
No point asking your for the focal Gaeilge is dóca :-\.
Quote from: Wee Roddy on February 27, 2020, 08:43:09 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 26, 2020, 10:16:08 AM
I seldom see a Tricolour at Club grounds.
When the new All Ireland State comes there will be a new flag.
Meanwhile sports organisations in the North should simply fly their Organisations flag.
I will not be commenting on any reply you make to this but as someone who resides in the North, I for one am just sick of your absolute crap. The fact you meant this and not as a wind up shows you really have no clue about what you be talking about on this matter no matter what spoof you come out with.
Nurse!!!
is any of these president candidates in favour of getting rid of provincial championships at least as part of all ireland series
When is the decision made on the new president?
Quote from: Rossfan on February 27, 2020, 04:38:34 PM
Quote from: tiempo on February 27, 2020, 01:07:02 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 27, 2020, 09:26:06 AM
Quote from: tiempo on February 26, 2020, 11:35:58 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 26, 2020, 09:09:56 PM
As opposed to a true purist cave dwelling "Gale" ;D
Is that what you call youself?
All good in the shires of Roscommon, nothing to see here.
What or who the fck are these " shires"?
Do you mean the Shines?
The shires of Roscommon our fella, a demilitrised zone for quislings.
Is shires an Ulster Scotch word?
What is it in standard English?
No point asking your for the focal Gaeilge is dóca :-\.
Seems to be Germanic - Old English in origin. I was expecting some Scottish influence since my mother used to talk about the shires in Scotland, meaning the counties. The word Sheriff comes from the same root, a contraction of shire reeve, used for legal officials with different powers depending on where they are. In Scotland a Sheriff is a judge, in the US it's a cop that works for the county.
Quote from: Taylor on February 27, 2020, 09:16:36 PM
When is the decision made on the new president?
The marra night
Have all the other candidates not bothered turning up?
Haven't heard much from any of them.
A few other items they'll have to vote on including one which was mean spirited and divisive a year ago!!
https://www.gaa.ie/news/annual-congress-2020-the-motions-explained/
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2020/0227/1118053-where-they-stand-5-candidates-seeking-gaa-presidency/
Burns leads McCarthy 80 -63 after 1st Count.
O'Sullivan eliminated.
Motion 1 passed.
Will the Presidential election be completed this evening?
QuoteMOTION 1
This motion proposes to give the sideline official the power to bring to the attention of the referee, during a break in play, any instances of foul play which have not been noticed by the referee.
This only got 70%.
Mind-boggling.
If you ever wonder why discipline in the GAA is a shambles. remember this.
Probably the Hurley shower voted no.
Jarlaith Burns 92
Larry McCarthy 88
Jim Bolger 55
Mick Rock 41
G. O Sullivan 38
Mick Rock Eliminated..
3rd count in progress!
Quota is 139.
First count:
Burns, 80
McCarthy 63
Bolger 55
Rock 40
O'Sullivan 38
Quote from: Rossfan on February 28, 2020, 08:42:08 PM
Burns leads McCarthy 80 -63 after 1st Count.
O'Sullivan eliminated.
Motion 1 passed.
Very close between Burns and McCarthy now. 92 v 88
Get in there Larry!
Motion 2 referred to CCCC.
Motion 3 lost. Got 59% support.
4 lost 91% against
5 referred to CC
Motions (https://www.gaa.ie/news/annual-congress-2020-the-motions-explained/)
Pass back to goalie after a kick out banned as motion 6 passed.
3rd Count Result (distribution of Mick Rocks votes)
Total Vote : 276 Quota : 139
Jim Bolger : + 1 = 56
Jarlath Burns : + 18 = 110
Larry McCarthy : + 22 = 110
McCarthy 142 to 132.
Jarlaith Burns 132
Larry McCarthy 142
Larry McCarthy Elected President!
McCathy picked up 79 transfers compared to Burns picking up 52.
Quote from: twohands!!! on February 28, 2020, 09:44:22 PM
McCathy picked up 79 transfers compared to Burns picking up 52.
Shinners aren't transfer friendly.
Bit of as hock, I expected Burns to win this comfortably, he is a very likeable guy and would have been an excellent president.
I stand corrected.
Jarlath denied.
Jarlath must be gutted he must try again in 2023.
Pretty incredible when you think that a NY delegate is the new GAA President.
Congrats to Larry McCarthy.
Quote from: Ambrose on February 28, 2020, 09:46:06 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on February 28, 2020, 09:44:22 PM
McCathy picked up 79 transfers compared to Burns picking up 52.
Shinners aren't transfer friendly.
Bit of as hock, I expected Burns to win this comfortably, he is a very likeable guy and would have been an excellent president.
Yeah I expected Burns to win too, but I wouldn't have you confidence in how he would perform at all.
I would have expected him to be a pretty safe/don't rock the boat president.
Hopefully McCarthy will go in and go radical from day one.
Back to school on Monday then.
Quote from: playwiththewind1st on February 28, 2020, 09:58:00 PM
Back to school on Monday then.
He'll be alright I'd say. Probably on one of the biggest head teacher wage packets in the north.
When can he have another crack at it?
Condensing the County season was one of Larry McCarthy aims, and getting rid of some of the GAA Competitions. Presumably the pre season competition, Mckenna Cup, FBD etc
I played with Larry for years here in the states and I wish him the best. I think he will bring in some good ideas and is a very smart individual. The Gaa is in good hands.
Quote from: Ambrose on February 28, 2020, 09:42:41 PM
Jarlaith Burns 132
Larry McCarthy 142
Larry McCarthy Elected President!
I was hoping for Larry Burns...
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Maybe he'll get in next time.
I had hoped Burns would be more radical on funding and fixtures but maybe that's the game you have to play. Disappointed that he didn't get in.
Fixtures Review report is out there for Clubs and Counties to decide on.
No doubt Jarlath will make another go of it in 3 yrs time. Would be good to have a northern GAA President whenever the border poll occurs 😉
Anyone watching the motions in croke Park at the moment? Black card rule in hurling defeated.. thank f**k
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 29, 2020, 12:45:29 PM
Anyone watching the motions in croke Park at the moment? Black card rule in hurling defeated.. thank f**k
As expected.
In football the neutral games for the Super 8s games will now to be determined by CCCC.
Quote from: Blowitupref on February 29, 2020, 12:51:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 29, 2020, 12:45:29 PM
Anyone watching the motions in croke Park at the moment? Black card rule in hurling defeated.. thank f**k
As expected.
In football the neutral games for the Super 8s games will now to be determined by CCCC.
Dublin GAA's John Costello is speaking in favour of this motion: "Dublin always support motions that protect the integrity of the competition."
;D
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 29, 2020, 12:45:29 PM
Anyone watching the motions in croke Park at the moment? Black card rule in hurling defeated.. thank f**k
Hurling snobbery at it finest. Cynical fouling is rewarded.
So the returning Tommy Murphy cup has a new name. Tailteann Cup
Quote from: Kingdom37 on February 29, 2020, 01:20:00 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 29, 2020, 12:45:29 PM
Anyone watching the motions in croke Park at the moment? Black card rule in hurling defeated.. thank f**k
Hurling snobbery at it finest. Cynical fouling is rewarded.
f**k up you dick
A New York man getting voted president is up there with Qatar getting the world cup, I don't think anybody seen it coming.
Quote from: yellowcard on February 29, 2020, 01:55:24 PM
A New York man getting voted president is up there with Qatar getting the world cup, I don't think anybody seen it coming.
He's a Cork man.
Quote from: Blowitupref on February 29, 2020, 01:20:04 PM
So the returning Tommy Murphy cup has a new name. Tailteann Cup
The Tailteann Cup. Bad start already. There is a competition in Meath with the same name.
Quote from: Blowitupref on February 29, 2020, 01:20:04 PM
So the returning Tommy Murphy cup has a new name. Tailteann Cup
The final must be pencilled in for Navan then.
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Quote from: Kingdom37 on February 29, 2020, 01:20:00 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 29, 2020, 12:45:29 PM
Anyone watching the motions in croke Park at the moment? Black card rule in hurling defeated.. thank f**k
Hurling snobbery at it finest. Cynical fouling is rewarded.
f**k up you dick
I hope you don't speak to your mother like that. Spoilt brat!
The festival of Taltii were funeral games associated with the semi-legendary history of Pre-Christian Ireland.
Appropriate that we have a cup named after funeral games, seeing that this will a dead competition. ;D
Good to see the hurley gang git the anti cynical fouling thing stopped.
Then they wonder why the undisciplined game doesn't spread beyond existing strongholds.
All they need now is to abolish referees !!!
Quote from: Rossfan on February 29, 2020, 02:46:05 PM
Good to see the hurley gang git the anti cynical fouling thing stopped.
Then they wonder why the undisciplined game doesn't spread beyond existing strongholds.
All they need now is to abolish referees !!!
Just turn it off then. Don't watch it
I seldom do ;)
You must have got out the wrong side of th'oul bed today :D
Anyone know where I can get a definitive list of what motions passed and didn't go through Congress?
Can't find anything on GAA.ie other than wee snippets.
Quote from: johnnycool on March 05, 2020, 11:41:26 AM
Anyone know where I can get a definitive list of what motions passed and didn't go through Congress?
Can't find anything on GAA.ie other than wee snippets.
This is all I could find. In fairness it's comprehensive but their website is atrocious, on this and most else.
https://www.gaa.ie/live-updates/congress2020/
No passing back to goalie from a kick out and realigning the Hurley Championships the 2 biggest changes on the games front.
Quote from: Rossfan on March 05, 2020, 12:47:22 PM
No passing back to goalie from a kick out and realigning the Hurley Championships the 2 biggest changes on the games front.
Did the changes to the age groups get ratified?
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Quote from: Rossfan on March 05, 2020, 12:47:22 PM
No passing back to goalie from a kick out and realigning the Hurley Championships the 2 biggest changes on the games front.
Did the changes to the age groups get ratified?
I've a feeling that motion was deferred along with plenty of of others.
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Quote from: Rossfan on March 05, 2020, 12:47:22 PM
No passing back to goalie from a kick out and realigning the Hurley Championships the 2 biggest changes on the games front.
Did the changes to the age groups get ratified?
I've a feeling that motion was deferred along with plenty of of others.
Deferred?
They're really making a pigs ear of this one with some counties moving and some staying on the old system.
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Quote from: Rossfan on March 05, 2020, 12:47:22 PM
No passing back to goalie from a kick out and realigning the Hurley Championships the 2 biggest changes on the games front.
Did the changes to the age groups get ratified?
I've a feeling that motion was deferred along with plenty of of others.
Deferred?
They're really making a pigs ear of this one with some counties moving and some staying on the old system.
Yeah, it's a balls. Armagh moved to U13 / 15 and 17 at last year's Convention specifically because the clubs were told that it was coming it at a national level and we had no other option. Then we find out that the motion was pulled last week ::)
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Quote from: Rossfan on March 05, 2020, 12:47:22 PM
No passing back to goalie from a kick out and realigning the Hurley Championships the 2 biggest changes on the games front.
Did the changes to the age groups get ratified?
I've a feeling that motion was deferred along with plenty of of others.
Deferred?
They're really making a pigs ear of this one with some counties moving and some staying on the old system.
Yeah, it's a balls. Armagh moved to U13 / 15 and 17 at last year's Convention specifically because the clubs were told that it was coming it at a national level and we had no other option. Then we find out that the motion was pulled last week ::)
same here. Both Derry and Antrim wisely stuck with the old U14/U16/U18 and it's a balls looking friendlies and the likes...
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Quote from: Rossfan on March 05, 2020, 12:47:22 PM
No passing back to goalie from a kick out and realigning the Hurley Championships the 2 biggest changes on the games front.
Did the changes to the age groups get ratified?
I've a feeling that motion was deferred along with plenty of of others.
Deferred?
They're really making a pigs ear of this one with some counties moving and some staying on the old system.
Yeah, it's a balls. Armagh moved to U13 / 15 and 17 at last year's Convention specifically because the clubs were told that it was coming it at a national level and we had no other option. Then we find out that the motion was pulled last week ::)
It was passed...
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Quote from: Rossfan on March 05, 2020, 12:47:22 PM
No passing back to goalie from a kick out and realigning the Hurley Championships the 2 biggest changes on the games front.
Did the changes to the age groups get ratified?
I've a feeling that motion was deferred along with plenty of of others.
Deferred?
They're really making a pigs ear of this one with some counties moving and some staying on the old system.
Yeah, it's a balls. Armagh moved to U13 / 15 and 17 at last year's Convention specifically because the clubs were told that it was coming it at a national level and we had no other option. Then we find out that the motion was pulled last week ::)
It was passed...
What was passed?
Motions 30 and 31?
Were they not deferred to a special congress in September !
Motion 31:
This motion proposes that while a county shall be allowed to determine its own internal underage grades from U21 to U11, it must do so subject to Central Council policy.
It is passed with 68% voting for it.
Probably time for a new thread.
Jarlath and Pat Teehan of Offaly declared interest in running for 2023 Congress..
Time for a Connacht President!
I thought Burns should been in place the last time so hopefully now, needs look at Gaa displince rules. I thought Larry Mccarthy was a total passenger.
I doubt Jarlath is as well connected or has enough millionaire chums to become president.
Let's face it, that's why Big Larry is there
Quote from: AustinPowers on November 01, 2022, 08:39:10 PM
I doubt Jarlath is as well connected or has enough millionaire chums to become president.
Let's face it, that's why Big Larry is there
I have no idea on how the election of President works- I would assume there will be some anti-northern bias and a lot of people greasing palms of others
Quote from: Saul goodman on November 01, 2022, 10:37:56 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on November 01, 2022, 08:39:10 PM
I doubt Jarlath is as well connected or has enough millionaire chums to become president.
Let's face it, that's why Big Larry is there
I have no idea on how the election of President works- I would assume there will be some anti-northern bias and a lot of people greasing palms of others
President before was a school teacher from Cavan, hardly rubbing shoulders with millionaires. He was a shite president but the idea that the process is corrupt or has anti northern bias is complete horse shite
No northern bias.
Like everything that requires a vote, there's ways and means to secure the deal. My completely unsubstantiated guess is that Jarlath didn't do a whole pile of canvassing last time out - relying instead on his profile, and his largely impeccable credentials - whereas Larry probably phoned or met every last person who might have a vote, promising whatever he could in return.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on November 01, 2022, 06:53:46 PM
I thought Burns should been in place the last time so hopefully now, needs look at Gaa displince rules. I thought Larry Mccarthy was a total passenger.
What real power does the presidential role carry? Director General Tom Ryan is the main man in charge from what I see and was Páraic Duffy before him.
Quote from: thewobbler on November 02, 2022, 12:26:49 AM
No northern bias.
Like everything that requires a vote, there's ways and means to secure the deal. My completely unsubstantiated guess is that Jarlath didn't do a whole pile of canvassing last time out - relying instead on his profile, and his largely impeccable credentials - whereas Larry probably phoned or met every last person who might have a vote, promising whatever he could in return.
You're correct that you're guessing. There was a lot of canvassing down by all candidates. It was the overseas vote and the Munster vote that carried the current incumbent to victory. The current President has been a lame duck since earlier this year and is probably the worst we've had in a long time.
Him and the Árd Stúirthóir have been virtually invisible since they both took Office.
I know Paraic Duffy was the other extreme always in the media and putting stuff out there.....but it would be nice to hear from the 2 lads occasionally or see an odd bit of leadership exhibited.
I think the last few Presidents have been 3 Munster, 3 Leinster, 1 Ulster no Connacht so must be time for a Western one.
I also think there have been only 4 or 5 Connacht Presidents since the foundation of the GAA.
Quote from: Rossfan on November 02, 2022, 11:51:59 AM
Him and the Árd Stúirthóir have been virtually invisible since they both took Office.
I know Paraic Duffy was the other extreme always in the media and putting stuff out there.....but it would be nice to hear from the 2 lads occasionally or see an odd bit of leadership exhibited.
I think the last few Presidents have been 3 Munster, 3 Leinster, 1 Ulster no Connacht so must be time for a Western one.
I also think there have been only 4 or 5 Connacht Presidents since the foundation of the GAA.
Not sure it matter what province they are from. If I'm from Longford, then am I better off with a President from Wexford , compared to one from neighbouring Cavan or Roscommon? Or does it make a difference? I suspect it would make a difference if the President was from Longford though.
So maybe it's time for a President from Sligo or Leitrim , as they've never had one. Or maybe just put the best person in and who cares what county they are from.
We seem to be struggling with the quality of presidents lately. Jack Boothman and Peter Quinn were the last true visionaries.Men of honour with the association at thier heart.Joe Mc Donagh was a decent fella but went with the flow. The rest just forget about them, used the gaa for there own agendas and greed and that's why I feel the association is on a serious wrong path.
Care to elaborate on what you see as the wrong path and what you think is the right path it should be on?
Haven't opened their mouth or given zero direction on all the violence in the Gaa and direction on how to handle it, the issues which have arise especially in the last year. I just thing the whole thing gone money orientated, all the money paid out by clubs and counties to teams where 1 team will win their championship, and 1 County team win a all- ireland, all that money going down the pan by clubs/counties who never reach that point. ,
Why do people keep repeating this trope about "greed" and "it's all about the money?" The GAA does not have shareholders or millionaire directors. It's a community-based non-profit organization with a small paid staff, a volunteer president, and all the "profits" (a surplus to give it it proper title) are reinvested at grassroots level! You can see where the money is spent. It's in the annual report. You can go to the website right now and download it.
Christ.
As for the current president, he's prioritized the club championship at the expense of the inter-county championship. The All-Ireland finals are no longer in September. A pretty significant reform, wouldn't you say? This is a distinctly non-commercial decision. Not bad for someone who came into the job at the worst possible time, a once-in-a-century global pandemic. It kinda limited what he was able to do for a big chunk of his presidency.
As for coverage, he's frequently on Twitter extolling the club game and attending club matches. And you're complaining that you don't hear from him enough?
It is about money and greed, been following the Gaa from late 80's changed so much, only worthwhile rule on all that time was taking the free out of the hands, Derry had 8/9 managers managing outside the county about 10/12yrs ago, followed the easy money, and eventually the county board had to put up or shut up and got us in a good manager at a cost.
What did Larry Mccarthy say about all the recent violence and assaults which occurred past few months. When the GAA was getting hammered about this in the papers and TV what did they put forward to counteract this. I don't remember seeing any man been put forward to said what they would do.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on November 02, 2022, 11:22:49 PM
What did Larry Mccarthy say about all the recent violence and assaults which occurred past few months. When the GAA was getting hammered about this in the papers and TV what did they put forward to counteract this. I don't remember seeing any man been put forward to said what they would do.
What's this then? Scotch mist?
https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2022/1013/1329036-mccarthy-aims-for-culture-change-in-the-gaa/ (https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2022/1013/1329036-mccarthy-aims-for-culture-change-in-the-gaa/)
Or this?
https://www.irishpost.com/sport/gaa-president-larry-mccarthy-has-said-recent-attacks-on-referees-are-utterly-unacceptable-and-has-promised-a-culture-change-241612 (https://www.irishpost.com/sport/gaa-president-larry-mccarthy-has-said-recent-attacks-on-referees-are-utterly-unacceptable-and-has-promised-a-culture-change-241612)
Or this?
https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/gaa-president-larry-mccarthy-targets-culture-shift-after-horrendous-stats-on-referee-abuse-42065563.html (https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/gaa-president-larry-mccarthy-targets-culture-shift-after-horrendous-stats-on-referee-abuse-42065563.html)
Or this?
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/2022/10/13/referee-attacks-cast-a-shadow-over-the-entire-association-says-gaa-president/ (https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/2022/10/13/referee-attacks-cast-a-shadow-over-the-entire-association-says-gaa-president/)
Who was the last president you thought made a difference for the better during his tenure?
There's something about Burns that suggests he might be decent.
Seán Kelly..... but you're not allowed to say that
Peter Quinn
Can ye say what they did
Peter Quinn started the Redevelopment of Croke Park.
Sean Kelly let Soccer and Rugby into Croke Park.
Sean Kelly started the Redevelopment of Dublin GAA as a force.
Sean Kelly has been the only President from Kerry.
Quote from: ONeill on November 06, 2022, 12:34:07 AM
Can ye say what they did
Presented Sam to 4 Ulster counties during his tenure.....that'll do me!
Don't Presidents only get 3 year terms?
Quote from: Rossfan on November 06, 2022, 10:41:13 AM
Don't Presidents only get 3 year terms?
Peter Quinn (born 1944) served as the 30th president of the Gaelic Athletic Association from 1991 until 1994.[1] A native of Gortmullan, Teemore, County Fermanagh, Northern Ireland.......
Not sure what month his presidency started in in 91 though.
Elected in 91, took up office in 92, presented the trophy to Donegal, Derry and Down during his 3 year tenure.
Quote from: Rossfan on November 06, 2022, 10:41:13 AM
Don't Presidents only get 3 year terms?
And become a lame duck after the second year roughly when their successor is elected.
All focus on what the new guy will do
Quote from: Itchy on November 01, 2022, 10:45:27 PM
Quote from: Saul goodman on November 01, 2022, 10:37:56 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on November 01, 2022, 08:39:10 PM
I doubt Jarlath is as well connected or has enough millionaire chums to become president.
Let's face it, that's why Big Larry is there
I have no idea on how the election of President works- I would assume there will be some anti-northern bias and a lot of people greasing palms of others
President before was a school teacher from Cavan, hardly rubbing shoulders with millionaires. He was a shite president but the idea that the process is corrupt or has anti northern bias is complete horse shite
Taken from a column last week by Andy Watters, sports journalist at the Irish News, writing about the vote between Larry McCarthy and Jarlath Burns:
"Without wishing to stir a cold pot, the tail-end of an exchange heard in the foyer of The Croke Park Hotel just before the voting left me with an uneasy feeling as I walked across the road to the stadium.
"You have to keep the Nordies out," says one fella to another.
Maybe they weren't delegates, maybe they were talking about something completely different but the end result was that the Nordie - despite his unquestionable credentials as a former county footballer and captain, a staunch club player and administrator, his record on various national committees, his career in teaching etc, etc, etc - was kept out."
No doubting Jarlath has the credentials and experience necessary, and I hope he gets it, but I read an interview with him in the paper on Saturday (also in the Irish News, the day after the Andy Watters column referenced in the above post) and one thing surprised and worries me about it: his focus seems to be entirely on county players and how to protect them. It surprised me because he made barely a reference to club players and he's an undeniably devoted clubman, and secretary of his own home club. Asked early in the interview what his priorities would be, the first thing he did was to take aim at the split season because of the impact it has on county players. The fact that the split season is the best arrangement for club players (about 97% of the GAA's playing population) didn't come into it whatsoever. The rest of the interview mostly followed that same course. All about the welfare of county players. Odd not only given his background, but because candidates running for GAA president usually tend to go into overdrive during their campaigns to portray themselves as 'club first' people.
Peter Quinn probably the last great President. The vision to redevelop Croke Park and how to finance it. A modern state of the art stadium to play our games in. A fantastic legacy. The next Presidents inbox will have two major issues that need dealt with. The County competition format includng the dead duck Leinster and Munster football championships and discipline. I expect neither to be addressed.
Quote from: thewobbler on November 02, 2022, 12:26:49 AM
No northern bias.
Like everything that requires a vote, there's ways and means to secure the deal. My completely unsubstantiated guess is that Jarlath didn't do a whole pile of canvassing last time out - relying instead on his profile, and his largely impeccable credentials - whereas Larry probably phoned or met every last person who might have a vote, promising whatever he could in return.
:) ;) :-X
Will the white Martin Luther King make it this time? (Copyright Spitting Politics circa 1985)
Serious charm offensive going on at the minute.
In everythin but the crib.
Surprised he wasnt elbowing Rhianna off the stage the other night at Superbowl.
I have to say that the present incumbent has not impressed.
It would be great for the 6 counties for Jarlath to get the role, he is such a good talker as well and he would be great for outreach work. He is a good GAA man.
Quote from: Truth hurts on February 14, 2023, 02:56:36 PM
It would be great for the 6 counties for Jarlath to get the role, he is such a good talker as well and he would be great for outreach work. He is a good GAA man.
Don't listen to this one.He is the laughing stock over on the Down Board.
Quote from: armaghniac on February 14, 2023, 02:14:20 PM
I have to say that the present incumbent has not impressed.
Worse than solid useless, a complete nonentity, and he is ensuring that no overseas candidate will ever be even considered again, let alone voted in.
Quote from: Truth hurts on February 14, 2023, 02:56:36 PM
It would be great for the 6 counties for Jarlath to get the role, he is such a good talker as well and he would be great for outreach work. He is a good GAA man.
Impressive character
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAw0XXDopUA
Jarlath must be a shoo in imo.
Quote from: SamFever on February 14, 2023, 03:08:20 PM
Don't listen to this one.He is the laughing stock over on the Down Board.
Being beaten by 11 points in the Ulster final still hurts, does it?
(https://img2.thejournal.ie/inline/4814627/original/?width=630&version=4814627)
From my circle, 100% of Down people support Jarlath. He can play a crucial role at a critical time; he won't forget the club players.
I'm not swayed any way. He is a very good speaker BUT I do wonder if he wants to go above the remit of the role.
I've met Jarlath and he's an impressive person. I think he'll be very good. I hope he wins and I wish him all the best.
The podcast that he did on "GAA social" with niblock and mcconville was very impressive. He's a very clever articulate man with his heart in the right place so I hope he gets a go.
His talk about the Glen - Kilmacaud saga wrt what the GAA could do etc was very interesting.
I think he is very impressive as well. He obviously understands the north, he is charismatic, he has ideas. And even though he is from Armagh he is calm. 8)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gme-ocTDvUo
Hope he gets it this time. I was disappointed he didn't last time out. A very impressive man and I think he'd be a superb spokesman and advocate for the GAA.
The thing I don't like about him is that he is absolutely desperate to become president, and has been actively positioning himself for almost 2 decades to get there.
And not based on any grand vision or great policy initiatives but just the actual attainment of the post in itself.
People say he's a great GAA man and does all sorts around the club etc but for me that's all part of his man of the people strategy and its all carefully choreographed and publicised.
As I said on another thread the people who most want to become policemen and politicians are the last people who should be in any position of power over anyone.
Quote from: Keyser soze on February 17, 2023, 10:56:50 AM
The thing I don't like about him is that he is absolutely desperate to become president, and has been actively positioning himself for almost 2 decades to get there.
And not based on any grand vision or great policy initiatives but just the actual attainment of the post in itself.
People say he's a great GAA man and does all sorts around the club etc but for me that's all part of his man of the people strategy and its all carefully choreographed and publicised.
As I said on another thread the people who most want to become policemen and politicians are the last people who should be in any position of power over anyone.
Whatever about the rest of your post, but I think this bit is totally unfair
Quote from: Keyser soze on February 17, 2023, 10:56:50 AM
The thing I don't like about him is that he is absolutely desperate to become president, and has been actively positioning himself for almost 2 decades to get there.
And not based on any grand vision or great policy initiatives but just the actual attainment of the post in itself.
People say he's a great GAA man and does all sorts around the club etc but for me that's all part of his man of the people strategy and its all carefully choreographed and publicised.
As I said on another thread the people who most want to become policemen and politicians are the last people who should be in any position of power over anyone.
I wouldn't agree with Jarlath on quite a number of things but I still think he'd make an excellent president. I don't think he's desperate either, he wants the position because he is the definition of a proper, genuine Gael who loves his club, county and sport. He's also made a few unpopular opinions that wouldn't exactly endear him to many GAA members so I don't think your post makes that much sense.
Quote from: Keyser soze on February 17, 2023, 10:56:50 AM
The thing I don't like about him is that he is absolutely desperate to become president, and has been actively positioning himself for almost 2 decades to get there.
And not based on any grand vision or great policy initiatives but just the actual attainment of the post in itself.
People say he's a great GAA man and does all sorts around the club etc but for me that's all part of his man of the people strategy and its all carefully choreographed and publicised.
As I said on another thread the people who most want to become policemen and politicians are the last people who should be in any position of power over anyone.
THIS RIGHT HERE...ON THE MONEY.
Undoubtedly a great clubman but this has been years in the planning and carefully choreographed, ticking every box as he goes along.
Could teach a few things to marketing gurus about maximum exposure and brand promotion.
If he doesnt get in this time it will be a greek tragedy.
Quote from: general_lee on February 17, 2023, 11:59:04 AM
Quote from: Keyser soze on February 17, 2023, 10:56:50 AM
The thing I don't like about him is that he is absolutely desperate to become president, and has been actively positioning himself for almost 2 decades to get there.
And not based on any grand vision or great policy initiatives but just the actual attainment of the post in itself.
People say he's a great GAA man and does all sorts around the club etc but for me that's all part of his man of the people strategy and its all carefully choreographed and publicised.
As I said on another thread the people who most want to become policemen and politicians are the last people who should be in any position of power over anyone.
I wouldn't agree with Jarlath on quite a number of things but I still think he'd make an excellent president. I don't think he's desperate either, he wants the position because he is the definition of a proper, genuine Gael who loves his club, county and sport. He's also made a few unpopular opinions that wouldn't exactly endear him to many GAA members so I don't think your post makes that much sense.
That's fair enough, but it is blatantly obvious for about 15 years that he was positioning himself to get the presidency so tbh I take everything he does in that light. There are plenty of great volunteers who don't look for publicity for everything they do.
And to be frank some of the unpopular stuff he comes out with has a real whiff of saying something controversial to be seen as relevant.
Still I suppose he could hardly be worse than the list of nonentities that have occupied the post since Sean McCague finished.
If he gets it are we going to lose the Tricolour and Amhran nc BhFiann from our matches?
The president dosent get to decide that. The closest that might get is a motion to Congress that will be heavily defeated.
Tyrdub you know as well as I do that won't be in the President's his power.
Anyway 'twould be no loss if scratchy public address versions or someone singing phonetically before games was ditched.
As an aside I see that Derry City soccer club had Amhrán na bhFiann sang (phonetically) at a Cup Final game at the weekend.
Uachtarán Michael D and Heaton Harris were there.
The fact that he might even attempt/discuss it makes me sick
I wonder how he feels about your views?
How many club matches take place with no anthem?
Quote from: Rossfan on February 17, 2023, 01:17:09 PM
I wonder how he feels about your views?
How many club matches take place with no anthem?
I couldnt give a shit how he feels about my views, they're my views which I am fully entitled to.
AnF and the Tricolour are part of our games, something I have witnessed at our games from my first time ever at a GAA match, taking them away is not something that should be even discussed.
Yet JB has
Of course they can and should be discussed. They have no effect on any match.
Most Club games don't have Anthems played before them.
When the new AI State comes about there will be a new flag and anthem.
Quote from: Rossfan on February 17, 2023, 01:23:12 PM
Of course they can and should be discussed. They have no effect on any match.
Most Club games don't have Anthems played before them.
When the new AI State comes about there will be a new flag and anthem.
You're now into a whole different argument.
But at least we're discussing it ;) ;D
Anyway best of luck to all 3 candidates in what has obviously been an "in house" campaign.
Quote from: Keyser soze on February 17, 2023, 12:34:59 PM
Quote from: general_lee on February 17, 2023, 11:59:04 AM
Quote from: Keyser soze on February 17, 2023, 10:56:50 AM
The thing I don't like about him is that he is absolutely desperate to become president, and has been actively positioning himself for almost 2 decades to get there.
And not based on any grand vision or great policy initiatives but just the actual attainment of the post in itself.
People say he's a great GAA man and does all sorts around the club etc but for me that's all part of his man of the people strategy and its all carefully choreographed and publicised.
As I said on another thread the people who most want to become policemen and politicians are the last people who should be in any position of power over anyone.
I wouldn't agree with Jarlath on quite a number of things but I still think he'd make an excellent president. I don't think he's desperate either, he wants the position because he is the definition of a proper, genuine Gael who loves his club, county and sport. He's also made a few unpopular opinions that wouldn't exactly endear him to many GAA members so I don't think your post makes that much sense.
That's fair enough, but it is blatantly obvious for about 15 years that he was positioning himself to get the presidency so tbh I take everything he does in that light. There are plenty of great volunteers who don't look for publicity for everything they do.
And to be frank some of the unpopular stuff he comes out with has a real whiff of saying something controversial to be seen as relevant.
Still I suppose he could hardly be worse than the list of nonentities that have occupied the post since Sean McCague finished.
I actually would have had the same opinion as you up until about a year ago believe it or not. I don't think he made any secret of his desire to be president and there's no real harm in that, and if he craves the spotlight (personally I don't think he does) then what of it? He's probably sat on more committees in a year than most of us would in a lifetime. I also think it's imperative that we get a progressive, open-minded president from Ulster - it's been too long and some of the biggest challenges facing the organisation are in the North.
Best of luck Jarlath, he deserves his chance and will be a great president and will move the organisation forward. He could be the man to speed up integration.
Quote from: Tyrdub on February 17, 2023, 01:20:28 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 17, 2023, 01:17:09 PM
I wonder how he feels about your views?
How many club matches take place with no anthem?
I couldnt give a shit how he feels about my views, they're my views which I am fully entitled to.
AnF and the Tricolour are part of our games, something I have witnessed at our games from my first time ever at a GAA match, taking them away is not something that should be even discussed.
Yet JB has
Rest assured that'll never, ever happen
Never say never
https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/co-armagh-principal-i-invite-orange-order-into-school-so-kids-can-understand-unionists/881120762.html
??
The last good president was Sean Kelly from Kerry. Larry McCarthy,John Horan and Aoghan o Fearghail offered little.
Hope Jarlath finally gets over the line 2nite, the paranoid Nordie in me thinks he'll get defeated in the PR transfer again.
Is President a full time position? Will Jarlath need to give up being a school principal if he gets it?
No time for Burns hopefully you free staters do him out of this one too
Ádh mór Jarlath.
Quote from: rodney trotter on February 17, 2023, 05:06:30 PM
The last good president was Sean Kelly from Kerry. Larry McCarthy,John Horan and Aoghan o Fearghail offered little.
Kelly was a bit too keen to be seen to be on the side of the national majority, rather than the GAA majority, but he was decent in general.
The others mentioned have been completely forgettable, with nothing of any substance achieved.
https://twitter.com/andyirishnews/status/1626688380024115206
Though he polled well 1st ballot last time out.
Quote from: Rossfan on February 17, 2023, 01:23:12 PM
Of course they can and should be discussed. They have no effect on any match.
Most Club games don't have Anthems played before them.
When the new AI State comes about there will be a new flag and anthem.
Surely the flag already recognises Orange people
Or does it signify fake tan now ?
Congratulations Jarlath,
Well done Jarlath
Comhghairdeas Jarlath. Don't any other president has pulled me a pint!
Election Results
Jarlath Burns 158
Niall Erskine 49
Pat Teehan 70
Congrats to Jarlath Burns.
Gas that I got him tickets for one of those Croke Park Ulster finals!!
I expect seats beside Michael D for his 3 years!!
Quote from: From the Bunker on February 17, 2023, 09:54:22 PM
Election Results
Jarlath Burns 158
Niall Erskine 49
Pat Teehan 70
Walked it. Well done Jarlath.
Quote from: dec on February 17, 2023, 07:23:26 PM
Is President a full time position? Will Jarlath need to give up being a school principal if he gets it?
He'd be one of the highest paid head teachers in the North.
Quote from: Tony Baloney on February 17, 2023, 10:01:20 PM
Quote from: dec on February 17, 2023, 07:23:26 PM
Is President a full time position? Will Jarlath need to give up being a school principal if he gets it?
He'd be one of the highest paid head teachers in the North.
You take a secondment & GAA remunerate at your current salary afaik
Well got the man I hoped, hope he gives some direction on sorting out the rule book.
As they say in the simpsons, were you expecting to seduce me mr Burns.
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on February 17, 2023, 10:09:18 PM
I might have entirely made this up but I think the GAA covers the salary the President was on (to a point probably).
Anyway, well done and I'm sure he will turn up to stuff punctually and hand out the cups effortlessly.
I believe they did until Christy Cooney became president and they had to match his bloated €150k per year FÁS salary.
I heard it was capped after that.
Well done and congratulations Jarlath!
Well done Jarlath, congratulations! Here's to an Armagh man presenting Sam to an Armagh man during your presidency!
Congrats to Jarlath.
Good man Jarlath.
I wonder what his main legacy will be?
Disclipline/appeals etc. perhaps?
Quote from: Keyser soze on February 17, 2023, 10:56:50 AM
The thing I don't like about him is that he is absolutely desperate to become president, and has been actively positioning himself for almost 2 decades to get there.
And not based on any grand vision or great policy initiatives but just the actual attainment of the post in itself.
People say he's a great GAA man and does all sorts around the club etc but for me that's all part of his man of the people strategy and its all carefully choreographed and publicised.
As I said on another thread the people who most want to become policemen and politicians are the last people who should be in any position of power over anyone.
Don't see how that makes him particularly unique to the majority of previous Presidents really. They all made their way up the greasy administrative pole and then the ball came loose for them.
That he has won it without being county or provincial chairman previously is rather impressive in that respect.
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on February 17, 2023, 10:09:18 PM
I might have entirely made this up but I think the GAA covers the salary the President was on (to a point probably).
Anyway, well done and I'm sure he will turn up to stuff punctually and hand out the cups effortlessly.
I hope he can get captains names right!
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/gaa/jarlath-burns-gaa-can-reach-out-to-protestants/31563403.html
I wonder if he will be tested on this from certain quarters.
Brought in the forward mark so already the worst president ever.
Was he responsible for that nonsense?
I am not sure he was.
I think discipline and appeals may be his thing.
Cómhgáirdeas a Iarlaith agus ádh mór sa phost.
Quote from: Owenmoresider on February 17, 2023, 10:50:09 PM
Quote from: Keyser soze on February 17, 2023, 10:56:50 AM
The thing I don't like about him is that he is absolutely desperate to become president, and has been actively positioning himself for almost 2 decades to get there.
And not based on any grand vision or great policy initiatives but just the actual attainment of the post in itself.
People say he's a great GAA man and does all sorts around the club etc but for me that's all part of his man of the people strategy and its all carefully choreographed and publicised.
As I said on another thread the people who most want to become policemen and politicians are the last people who should be in any position of power over anyone.
Don't see how that makes him particularly unique to the majority of previous Presidents really. They all made their way up the greasy administrative pole and then the ball came loose for them.
That he has won it without being county or provincial chairman previously is rather impressive in that respect.
He was (presumably behind his back) referred to as An Uachtarain by other teachers in the school for years. I dont believe half of the outreach stuff is genuine but will be interesting to see if he touches it during his tenure or if it was pure politicking.
Having said that I think he'll be high profile and will get something done unlike the John Doe currently in charge.
I'll ask what real power does the President have? Like it all has to go through various committees and there are lads who have serious power on those who won't be for moving.
He can make big statements and have big ideas but needs everyone on board. Like the time Michael D got in first. That year there were lost of candidates making big statements but who didn't seem to understand the role or it's limitations.
If there was one thing he did sort it would be the appeals and so on. You have lads who will involved who are meant to be upholding rules, but as soon as their own county is involved they vanish.
Good luck to him and I do think he might push things out there a bit. He is also a very good communicator in fairness.
See this afternoon they have kept the U17 and U20 Inter County grades in place when it appeared U18 and U21 might make a return.
Well u can't beat Stupid, it made alot of sense to return to these grades
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on February 18, 2023, 01:43:48 PM
Well u can't beat Stupid, it made alot of sense to return to these grades
Differing age grades in various counties and U17 at intercounty level.
Bit of a mess.
Quote from: ONeill on February 17, 2023, 11:26:40 PM
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/gaa/jarlath-burns-gaa-can-reach-out-to-protestants/31563403.html
I wonder if he will be tested on this from certain quarters.
Is this all about increasing the playing pool for Armagh ?
Quote from: seafoid on February 18, 2023, 10:11:37 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 17, 2023, 11:26:40 PM
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/gaa/jarlath-burns-gaa-can-reach-out-to-protestants/31563403.html
I wonder if he will be tested on this from certain quarters.
Is this all about increasing the playing pool for Armagh ?
Think so. I know a few lads who'd be perfect build for fullback/midfield for us but they aren't GAA inclined.
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on February 18, 2023, 12:27:39 PM
I'll ask what real power does the President have? Like it all has to go through various committees and there are lads who have serious power on those who won't be for moving.
He can make big statements and have big ideas but needs everyone on board. Like the time Michael D got in first. That year there were lost of candidates making big statements but who didn't seem to understand the role or it's limitations.
If there was one thing he did sort it would be the appeals and so on. You have lads who will involved who are meant to be upholding rules, but as soon as their own county is involved they vanish.
Good luck to him and I do think he might push things out there a bit. He is also a very good communicator in fairness.
The irony of that being that the man himself clearly doesn't understand the limitations of the role either, given he's spent his entire presidency carrying on like he's still standing at the podium in a Labour party conference.
The all Ireland football format is the big issue is the new format on trial for 3 years then they will review or is to be reviewed year by year.
Brilliant to see our man in the top job, something neither Tyrone or Down have ever managed to have. With Jarly pulling the strings it is only a matter of time before Armagh dominate at every level and are restored to our rightful position as the top dogs of gaelic football! Ard Mhaca abu!!
Paddy McFlynn was a Down man
Quote from: OrchardOrange on February 19, 2023, 02:54:22 PM
Brilliant to see our man in the top job, something neither Tyrone or Down have ever managed to have. With Jarly pulling the strings it is only a matter of time before Armagh dominate at every level and are restored to our rightful position as the top dogs of gaelic football! Ard Mhaca abu!!
Is he going to allow Armagh 16 men or something ;D
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on February 19, 2023, 03:03:13 PM
Paddy McFlynn was a Down man
If getting into inaccuracies, I'm more intrigued by their "rightful position".
Quote from: Eire90 on February 19, 2023, 10:40:16 AM
The all Ireland football format is the big issue is the new format on trial for 3 years then they will review or is to be reviewed year by year.
No three year trial (completely different to the Super 8) and no official review/adjusment mechanism built in at the moment.
Given the effort involved in getting it over the line, I'd say there's close to no chance it will be substantially changed within the next 5 years and even then it would be an absolute massive task getting in something to replace it.
It might be tinkered at around the edges (provincial losers might be dropped down to 3rd or 4th seeds, All-Ireland winners being guaranteed entry into the next year's All-Ireland competition (as it's a bit weird that the Tailteann winners are guaranteed entry to the next year's All-Ireland but the All-Ireland winners aren't) or there may be adjustments to New York's status) but I don't think it will see any major changes within the next 10 years.
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 19, 2023, 03:04:29 PM
Quote from: OrchardOrange on February 19, 2023, 02:54:22 PM
Brilliant to see our man in the top job, something neither Tyrone or Down have ever managed to have. With Jarly pulling the strings it is only a matter of time before Armagh dominate at every level and are restored to our rightful position as the top dogs of gaelic football! Ard Mhaca abu!!
Is he going to allow Armagh 16 men or something ;D
Only the Dub teams get that ;)
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on February 19, 2023, 03:03:13 PM
Paddy McFlynn was a Down man
Ahem,
he was a Derry man fortunate enough to move to the lovely county of Down where he's fondly remembered.
Shook hands with Jarlath in the Hyde yesterday.
He doesn't know me from Adam but his handshake was firm and warm not the limp "wet fish" bare touch you get from Politicians
Quote from: Rossfan on February 20, 2023, 06:02:49 PM
Shook hands with Jarlath in the Hyde yesterday.
He doesn't know me from Adam but his handshake was firm and warm not the limp "wet fish" bare touch you get from Politicians
Did you not tell him about the Armagh outreach work that you are doing on the gaaboard ?
Quote from: Rossfan on February 20, 2023, 06:02:49 PM
Shook hands with Jarlath in the Hyde yesterday.
He doesn't know me from Adam but his handshake was firm and warm not the limp "wet fish" bare touch you get from Politicians
It was definitely his hand you shook ?
Silverbridge on the move
https://twitter.com/MartyM_RTE/status/1626714147860643840
https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-41078432.html
Quote from: Rossfan on February 24, 2023, 11:42:54 AM
https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-41078432.html
"If you look even at the last independence referendum in Scotland, both Celtic and Rangers, two big sporting organisations in that country took a position on independence. "
Is he right about that? I don't recall either team taking an official position.
Quote from: dec on February 24, 2023, 04:37:18 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 24, 2023, 11:42:54 AM
https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-41078432.html
"If you look even at the last independence referendum in Scotland, both Celtic and Rangers, two big sporting organisations in that country took a position on independence. "
Is he right about that? I don't recall either team taking an official position.
I think that's pure rubbish. Elements of support from both clubs would have taken a position, yes, but neither club took a formal position. That sort of shite needs called out.