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MON is staying put .

SFs big problem in the south is that the economy is going ok .

Wonderful of joe to reveal the Corinthian and minimalist approach of the Dublin footballers.

Would love to see Dundalk in group stages of Champions League.I think this investment is good for domestic football

Ayone else hear the rumour that Linfield are going to go full-time?

No .   Would it be feasible ??

It's getting worse as it goes on. Poor show.

Less funny  than Mrs Brown . 

Gilroy will make them competitive and it will be interesting to see where it goes from here.

Tony should call it a day

O'Donoghue

The forces that keep NI separate from the rest of the island are not just political . Some of the most important are cultural. Partition works by exclusion. 

One company works on both sides of the border to keep the status quo going 
It wouldn't be hard to open things up a bit.

No Nordies in Irish "celebrities" for the ladies.

https://m.independent.ie/style/celebrity/celebrity-news/irish-celebrity-baby-boom-kathryn-tara-and-aoibhin-show-off-unique-maternity-style-36456338.html

No southerners in the Northern equivalent

https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/cars/me-and-my-first-car-how-ni-stars-got-into-right-gear-36456734.html

There are exceptions for sports stars and very famous people but at ground level this is how it works.

Bad example .  I don't give a 5bite about these needy narcissists in the free state and I couldn't give a Donald Duck about their equivalents in the O6,

The Indo stable is shallow and vacuous regardless of side of the border .

More fake news in the week leading up to the Huns match, anyway i think Celtic would be looking for more, this time last year he was going to Chelsea for £30 million

"The Huns game" !!

Nobody takes that 5hite serious anymore .

Teams often reflect their most important players, and McClean sums up Irish soccer these days. Hardworking and committed, but fundamentally not good enough to compete at a high level, and generally unlikeable.

If that's the yardstick for an individual sporting award, then we have low standards.

He doesn't vote SDLP. Get over it.

I love james mcclean and the way he has the courage to stand up for what he believes in. I love the way he wears his heart on his sleeve when he's playing for ireland and he seems to care as much as the most passionate fan but that doesnt make him the best sports person ireland has produced this year.

He was voted as best sportsperson of the year to be fair .  It was sports personality of the year .

James McClean is far from the best player in the world. But in typical Ewan McKenna fashion, he's ignoring some of the most important bits that make us love sport. The passion (sorry Dinny), the pride, the effort, the knowledge that you gave it everything you had. If I get to choose someone to represent me, I'd choose an honest, hard working player who loved playing for his country and who left absolutely everything he had on the pitch over a more talented but less emotionally invested alternative.

Think about it. Do you love sports because of the aesthetic pleasure of a well executed technical or athletic skill? A perfectly hit free kick, a brilliantly executed catch or a sideline puc, a perfect tight spiral and brilliant catch in the endzone, a lovely backline move and a try in the corner? Is that why you love sports, or is that just an inherent part of the sport itself, rather then the reason we love it? The reason I love sport, from GAA to darts and snooker, is because of the drama, the challenge, the competition, the drive, the beating heart, the energy, the sheer 'want' that we see competitors show. I want to watch sport that makes me feel that the competitors are giving it everything they have in a bid to be the best they can be, and better than the other team/player. I want to feel that they care, that they are more invested in it than the paycheck they'll get out of it. I want to feel it matters to them, because then it matters to me. James McLean makes me think, no, he makes me KNOW it matters to him.

For that, I think he's great.

I agree with all this but I do think there would have been more worthy winners. Ryan Burnett for example being one

I agree with you on Burnett but he has two problems with getting awards like this .

-  he is a from the north and hasn't exposure here owing to lack of Olympian status .  Barnes and Conlon are much more recognisable to the average punter .

-  most of his fights are on Sky .

Your one in the UN is fairly giving it both barrels today . . . fair play to her endorsing the oppression of 5 million people.

Go USA!!

The US has been oppressing Palestinians for decades .

The Jereusalem capital thing really changes fcuk all . 

Bristol City were superb but the over reaction in the media and social media is way over the top as usual.
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It is on the sports headlines but hardly OTT .  In an era when modern soccer is awfully predicable and dominated by money it is really great to see the small town team triumph over the big corporate global behemoth .
Rare it happens .  Any one from a GAA background should understand .

Folks

Does anyone have the O Donovan Rossa line out from the 1989 club final ??

Or a link ?

Thanks

It is essentially equated with rough sleeping which is presumably why GAA players slept out in Dublin and Belfast City Centres last Saturday night.

Reading through this thread one would think that those of us with rooves over our heads should be considered lucky or blessed as opposed to the reality of having worked hard and made sacrifices to acquire and keep accommodation.

The solution as I said is simple enough,the homeless should be lifted from the streets every night and placed in an institution,the addicted should receive treatment and the relatives of others found on the streets should be informed and encouraged to collect their kith and kin as soon as possible.

Homeless and rough sleeping in LA is considerably worse than in Ireland. So Ive seen a few solutions floated and this is often the first one.

Biggest problem with that soltuion is being homeless is not a crime so you cant get arrested for being homeless. The police used to get around this by lifting them for drug possession, they got thrown in the clink and could make bail so thats where they stayed more or less at the taxpayers expense.
Then everyone thought it was a great idea to legalize marijuana. What happened then was the police cant lift them for that either and the rough sleeping population explodes and I mean explodes! They are literary everywhere in Southern California.
I heard them mention on the news tha they were thinking of making the Encampment on Skid Row a UN status refugee camp, ....on the streets on one of the world's wealthiest cities!

Also relatives often dont want to know they've been around the block with them supporting them on addiction programs only for that to lapse. I know someone that works for the city adjacent to mine and they will actually pay the families to take them away, doesnt work tho the homeless population keeps growing

What to do? Nobody knows. Applying emotions to it doesn't solve anything either, some people declare its their own fault so they deserve it. Maybe it is, maybe its not, but that's doesn't get them off the streets and the problems that comes with it.
Some people provide services for them food showers haircuts etc at the encampments however that provides them with basically everything they need and the encampments grow and grow and unsurprisingly they say they are happy there...

There are no easy solutions

An awful lot of homeless in US drift towards LA due to its climate .