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In 7 years that 31 titles by my count!!!

Here's what they won in the 7 years between 2002 and 2009:

Senior
Football
Leinster Senior Football Champions: 2002, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008

U21
Football
All Ireland u21 Football Champions: 2003
Leinster u21 Football Champions: 2002, 2003, 2005

Minor
Football
Leinster Minor Football Champions: 2003

That's 10! But of course money had nothing to do with the huge increase!!!

Here's what Dublin have won since 2009:

Senior
Football
All Ireland Senior Football Champions: 2011, 2013, 2015
Leinster Senior Football Champions: 2009, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015
National Football League Champions: 2013, 2014, 2015

Hurling
Leinster Senior Hurling Champions: 2013
National Hurling League Titles: 2011

U21
Football
All Ireland u21 Football Champions: 2010, 2012, 2014
Leinster u21 Football Champions: 2009, 2010, 2012, 2014, 2015

Hurling
Leinster u21 Hurling Champions: 2010, 2011

Minor
Football
All Ireland Minor Football Champions: 2012
Leinster Minor Football Champions: 2009, 2011, 2012, 2014

Hurling
Leinster Minor Hurling Champions: 2011, 2012

Gotta love the whinging.

Suck it up crybabies.

Are the same people complaining about Kilkenny's utter dominance in hurling?

What about Kerry winning 4 in a rows?

Dublin being good means Meath and Kildare have the excuse to be pants?
No excuse for Meath and Kildare to fall so far behind Mayo, Donegal, Tyrone. Sorry for bringing Meath into, as I know they are far more annoyed with themselves than the Dubs. But the flourbag whingebags are a laughing stock.

Was it money that produced Diarmuid Connolly and Paul Flynn? That makes them work their absolute boll*x off every game, that makes them catch high balls and kick monster points? Two of the best half forwards ever, that happened to come along at the same time, and instead of praising them people want to put them down because there is money being pumped into grassroots level?
Money produced Stephen Cluxton, the greatest keeper of all time, who has changed the way the position looked at? Seriously, do people actually think that money has even the slightest thing to do with that?

Dublin happen to have the greatest bunch of players they've ever had. Success also breeds success so we are building on it. But the really great players haven't got long left, and at underage we're not dominating in any similar way. Players coming through over the next few years will certainly be no better than Kildare's.

We won't be the best team for too much longer, so sit back and enjoy it while it lasts. Though I guarantee if/when Mayo, Kerry, Donegal, Tyrone play us in championship this year, all of them will feel they can beat us.

And Leinster will turnaround also, though I do dread it. When Meath get to 80% as good as us, they'll probably take us. When Kildare get to 120% as good as us, they might even take us too.

2008
Dublin 1-8 Tyrone 3-14.
Cluxton and Connolly started this game.

2009
Dublin 1-7 Kerry 1-24
Cluxton, Connolly and Flynn started this game.

Strange that the greatest players of all time were part of the Dublin team that were getting absolute hammerings in the late naughties. Do you think the improvement in results after this had anything to do with the conveyor belt of talent that was paid for by all of us? Or do you deny the obvious? O'Sullivan, O'Carroll, Fitzsimons, McCarthy..... the list goes on and on. Also Flynn was basically a full time athlete for a number of years.

Are you somehow trying to claim that enormous amounts of money has no effect on the success of a team? That's like claiming black is white, it's ridiculous. Now stop having a pop at other counties and face facts, there'd be no All Ireland's for Dublin without the money and the unfair advantages handed to Dublin are ruining Gaelic football.

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Not even an attempt made to defend the money Dublin have got! As I said on the last page, even the Dubs now accept that their is no defence.

I don't engage with the reality of Dublin's professional set up.

That's what you meant to say.

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Not even an attempt made to defend the money Dublin have got! As I said on the last page, even the Dubs now accept that their is no defence.

I think even some of the Dubs are questioning it at this stage. What's the point in winning things if you haven't earned it? I wonder do supporters of teams in other sports question the validity of things they won? Like the soccer clubs with billionaires backing them or rugby teams with similar financial backing. I suppose the opportunity for other teams to do similar is possible in those sports but not in the GAA world. In fact, is there any example of another team that gets bankrolled by the actual governing body of a sport like we see with Dublin? It's crazy when you think about it.

It is the reason why attendances at Dublin games have somewhat collapsed in comparison to 10-15 years ago where Dublin Meath games would get 80000+ and a Dublin Kildare game wouldn't be far behind. Now a lot of their fans are waiting until the semi final at least before turning up while opposition fans have given up years ago.

You've no excuse. You pissed all your resources away paying managers

Kildare under McGeeney:

Highest paid and most expensive management team
Most expensive training sessions in the country
Centre of excellence
Still couldn't win a raffle

Other counties (especially those who's brief period of success coincided wth the 120m GBP windfall from Her Majesty) should concentrate on setting standards in their own counties.

Kildare didn't have 1.5 million every year available to develop players. Dublin did and it's why they've won 3 out of the last 5 All Irelands. They also were helped by all of us paying for their 80,000 capacity home stadium, their training facilities and of course with our money buying them titles it attracted sponsors like aig and a long list of others. This then helped them pay for their extensive backroom team. I could go on but you get the point. So instead of pointing fingers at other counties shouldn't you be showing us some gratitude? We've bought you everything, you're so ungrateful.

I think even some of the Dubs are questioning it at this stage. What's the point in winning things if you haven't earned it? I wonder do supporters of teams in other sports question the validity of things they won? Like the soccer clubs with billionaires backing them or rugby teams with similar financial backing. I suppose the opportunity for other teams to do similar is possible in those sports but not in the GAA world. In fact, is there any example of another team that gets bankrolled by the actual governing body of a sport like we see with Dublin? It's crazy when you think about it.

It is the reason why attendances at Dublin games have somewhat collapsed in comparison to 10-15 years ago where Dublin Meath games would get 80000+ and a Dublin Kildare game wouldn't be far behind. Now a lot of their fans are waiting until the semi final at least before turning up while opposition fans have given up years ago.

It's killing GAA in Leinster. What's the point in even running the Leinster championship anymore?

I think even some of the Dubs are questioning it at this stage. What's the point in winning things if you haven't earned it? I wonder do supporters of teams in other sports question the validity of things they won? Like the soccer clubs with billionaires backing them or rugby teams with similar financial backing. I suppose the opportunity for other teams to do similar is possible in those sports but not in the GAA world. In fact, is there any example of another team that gets bankrolled by the actual governing body of a sport like we see with Dublin? It's crazy when you think about it.

We've earned all out titles. 

We bankroll a lot of Clubhouses and pitches as well

None of you complain about that.

Other counties simply took their eye off the ball

You've bought your titles.

The clubhouses could have been paid for with the millions given to Dublin GAA.

Other counties are still amateur while Dublin are professional.

I think players might even drop off the panel before the summer! Can't see many of them being enthusiastic about returning next year either. It really is turning out to be a shocking appointment. You have to wonder what Mick Dempsey and co were thinking? Was there really no one better?

I think even some of the Dubs are questioning it at this stage. What's the point in winning things if you haven't earned it? I wonder do supporters of teams in other sports question the validity of things they won? Like the soccer clubs with billionaires backing them or rugby teams with similar financial backing. I suppose the opportunity for other teams to do similar is possible in those sports but not in the GAA world. In fact, is there any example of another team that gets bankrolled by the actual governing body of a sport like we see with Dublin? It's crazy when you think about it.

^ So again all of us are paying for something Dublin gain from. A new state of the art training facility to go along with paying for their 80,000 capacity home stadium, aswell ofcourse as paying for developing all their players. And do we hear a word of gratitude from the Dubs? Not at all. They have no shame.

Sure it's nothing to do with money don't be stupid it's just all those volunteers giving up their time. Orwell would be proud.

Ah you're right there, sure all those paid coaches and organisers are just gettin in the way.

^ So again all of us are paying for something Dublin gain from. A new state of the art training facility to go along with paying for their 80,000 capacity home stadium, aswell ofcourse as paying for developing all their players. And do we hear a word of gratitude from the Dubs? Not at all. They have no shame.

I'm well aware of the situations with the two players, what I was getting at was the likes of this: http://www.hoganstand.com/Meath/MessagePage.aspx?TopicID=72061&Latest=1

Granted a lot of it is driven by idiot parents desperate for their children to represent the Dubs but it is not a good direction for the GAA to be heading. Players should play for teams in their county and represent the counties they are born in/grow up/live in.
If they are not good enough for their own county and have parents from a weaker county then that is fair enough to give it a chance but Dublin teams shouldn't need to go outside their borders with the population they have.

What you've just posted there is completely different issue to your accusation around Dublins 'pathetic' actions in targeting players from other counties. Kildare and Meath should put their energies in sorting themselves out rather than blaming Dublin for their troubles at every turn. If anything is pathetic it is the state of football in both counties.

Although it's true that the lilies and Meath are pathetic, if you gave either of them the 10's of millions that Dublin have got they would be beating Dublin at all age groups.

It's been run like a club team. Heading off to Castlebar for some team bonding and some boozing I presume. Lillis has had all league to at least try to shore things up and he's refused to do so. Couldn't sort out a training pitch and training is meant to be fairly basic anyway. Players seem to be getting worse under his stewardship! It's not just in defence he has no tactics at all. Just go out and give your all is not enough.
He has a history of giving referees abuse from the sideline and he's continuing to behave like this. This is more harmful than anything as referees turn against us. If he's refused to tighten the defence up to this and in fact think he's right to leave things open, then we can only assume he'll continue this way. I've said it before be we have Dublin to play in two months (Wicklow are division 4 strugglers), I won't be going to Kilkenny if he's still in charge.

Just to comment on the game and not go on a rant against the joke of a manager. I'll direct my anger at a certain Marty Duffy instead. So Evan O'Carroll was on a yellow card that was harsh in my opinion. In the second half he tracks back and tackles a Meath player on our 45. Maybe it was a free but it was an innocuous challenge, the ref thought the same and just awarded a free. The Meath manager Dowd goes mad knowing that O'Carroll was on a yellow, the Meatn crowd (who vastly outnumbered ours) followed Dowds lead and went mad. The linesman in front of the stand happened to be Marty Duffy. He decides he wants to get involved so he calls the ref over. After a short conversation O'Carroll is called back and given a second yellow card and sent off.
We were 2 points up at the time. It would have made no difference to our survival in division 2 and we probably would have lost the match anyway but you know the saying 'the ref never changes his mind'? Well if you have a manager run onto the field complaining, a noisy bunch of Meath people screaming and Marty Duffy for assistance then it is possible for the ref to change his mind. I hate Marty Duffy. And his brother.

Evan O'Carroll kicked out after he fouled him I was right in front of it thats why the Meath crowd were going mad...



God hard to know what to make of this set up now I was all on for giving the management team a chance but from what i have seen and what I'm hearing it looks as if they need some sort of help...

I think there is a training in castlebar this thursday it will be interesting to see how many make the trip!!!

May focus my anger back to Lillis so!

Warm weather training is it? In Castlebar!!!!