26 County General Election 2020

Started by Snapchap, January 09, 2020, 06:52:51 PM

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What will be makeup of the next government?

FF/SD/Lab/Green
FG/SD/Lab/Green
FG/FF
FF/Green
FG/Independents
FG/Independents
FG/Green
FF/SF
FF/Green/Independents
FF Minority
FG Minority
FG/SF
FF/Lab/Green
FF/Lab
FF/Lab/Green/Independents

Eamonnca1

Quote from: armaghniac on February 13, 2020, 12:24:59 AM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on February 12, 2020, 11:06:43 PM
Nope. SF would be the big winners in that scenario, they'd have a better picture of how many candidates they can run. FF and FG would lose seats and SF would pick them up.

Sf transfers did not go to FG or FF, in general. They will take the seats off those elected on those transfers. They'd end up with 44 or 45, while still needing 81.
In another election, SF transfers would go to the extra SF candidates that they now know they could have had running.

trileacman

Quote from: Eamonnca1 on February 13, 2020, 12:30:15 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on February 13, 2020, 12:24:59 AM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on February 12, 2020, 11:06:43 PM
Nope. SF would be the big winners in that scenario, they'd have a better picture of how many candidates they can run. FF and FG would lose seats and SF would pick them up.

Sf transfers did not go to FG or FF, in general. They will take the seats off those elected on those transfers. They'd end up with 44 or 45, while still needing 81.
In another election, SF transfers would go to the extra SF candidates that they now know they could have had running.

Thats exactly what he said.
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manfromdelmonte

Quote from: Eamonnca1 on February 13, 2020, 12:30:15 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on February 13, 2020, 12:24:59 AM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on February 12, 2020, 11:06:43 PM
Nope. SF would be the big winners in that scenario, they'd have a better picture of how many candidates they can run. FF and FG would lose seats and SF would pick them up.

Sf transfers did not go to FG or FF, in general. They will take the seats off those elected on those transfers. They'd end up with 44 or 45, while still needing 81.
In another election, SF transfers would go to the extra SF candidates that they now know they could have had running.
SF doing so well will bring out a much bigger 'anyone but SF' vote the next time
A lot of people are shocked with the number of seats they got

Rossfan

They'd  also be blamed by many for not being adult enough to do a deal to form a Government.
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Fear Bun Na Sceilpe

Quote from: Itchy on February 12, 2020, 10:17:16 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on February 12, 2020, 08:44:58 PM
Quote from: weareros on February 12, 2020, 06:32:26 PM
But they will still be ministers. All continue in their caretaker role, including Leo as caretaker Taoiseach, until a new government is formed. Technically he could be Taoiseach for many months including as Hound said the visit to the White House on St. Paddy's Day. Indeed, if there is a new election later if no gov can be formed, he could go to the country slightly more popular than he was in February and come back with the most number of seats. Stranger things have happened.

Another election could see both FF and FG pick up seats.
They would have refined their manifestos and would have a right go at SF's fairytale.

See that is pure rubbish! Have a right go? what do you think they did in this election. They got every media outlet in the country to attack SF, they dragged up a 13 year old murder case and manipulated a grieving mother to further their goals. And they still failed and if SF ran in an election tomorrow they could take another 6 or 7 seats. You clearly have a hatred of SF, that's fair enough, but you are talking total garbage there - the kitchen sink was already thrown at SF and it failed and done nothing but drive people towards them.

Breege Quinn raised the story, still no apology

seafoid

Quote from: armaghniac on February 12, 2020, 08:44:58 PM
Quote from: weareros on February 12, 2020, 06:32:26 PM
But they will still be ministers. All continue in their caretaker role, including Leo as caretaker Taoiseach, until a new government is formed. Technically he could be Taoiseach for many months including as Hound said the visit to the White House on St. Paddy's Day. Indeed, if there is a new election later if no gov can be formed, he could go to the country slightly more popular than he was in February and come back with the most number of seats. Stranger things have happened.

Another election could see both FF and FG pick up seats.
They would have refined their manifestos and would have a right go at SF's fairytale.

FFG would have to adopt some of SF's policies. Neoliberal business as usual won't get them anywhere.



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   "According to an exit poll published on Saturday, some 63 per cent of voters said they did not feel they had benefited from an improvement in the economy.

The housing shortage is a particular concern, especially among the under-35s. A recent study by the Central Bank of Ireland showed that only one new dwelling was built for every seven additional people in the population between 2011 and 2019. Rents have increased by 40 per cent in the past five years, while average earnings have grown by just 14 per cent."



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Fear Bun Na Sceilpe

SF will source some unknown card candidates(if they are not on hols). They would be returned with a bigger majority. The smaller parties would be wiped out as there is no such thing as a coalition of the left. The transfer advice was designed to keep FF/FG out not get lefties in. SF ARE NOT A LEFT WING PARTY.

seafoid

Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on February 13, 2020, 08:53:30 AM
SF will source some unknown card candidates(if they are not on hols). They would be returned with a bigger majority. The smaller parties would be wiped out as there is no such thing as a coalition of the left. The transfer advice was designed to keep FF/FG out not get lefties in. SF ARE NOT A LEFT WING PARTY.
FF can be left wing or right wing depending on the mojo of the people.
SF  would be similar if they are serious.
The name of the game is power.
The South is a normal country. There is no need for D'Hondt. There is just power.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

magpie seanie

Quote from: Rossfan on February 13, 2020, 08:33:10 AM
They'd  also be blamed by many for not being adult enough to do a deal to form a Government.

We've disagreed plenty but I think you've nailed it there. That's FF/FG's plan. The numbers don't add up but they'll still be believed by many when they spout this line.

No one wants an election though so I hope they act like adults and get on with it in the end.

Itchy

Quote from: magpie seanie on February 13, 2020, 09:04:03 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 13, 2020, 08:33:10 AM
They'd  also be blamed by many for not being adult enough to do a deal to form a Government.

We've disagreed plenty but I think you've nailed it there. That's FF/FG's plan. The numbers don't add up but they'll still be believed by many when they spout this line.

No one wants an election though so I hope they act like adults and get on with it in the end.

The people are fed up with FF and FG, they will not listen to such nonsense from them even if they get RTE and Indo etc to shout it out. People are seeing through this propaganda from the establishment. A 2nd election will be very bad for FF and FG but especially FF.

Itchy

Quote from: armaghniac on February 13, 2020, 12:24:59 AM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on February 12, 2020, 11:06:43 PM
Nope. SF would be the big winners in that scenario, they'd have a better picture of how many candidates they can run. FF and FG would lose seats and SF would pick them up.

Sf transfers did not go to FG or FF, in general. They will take the seats off those elected on those transfers. They'd end up with 44 or 45, while still needing 81.

Quite a few FF candidates got in on the last place, they may not be picking up a huge amount of transfers but they are picking up a significant amount. If a guy is getting in with 5-10k surplus like in some places a FF or FG candidate may be getting 500 to 800 transfers. That potentially could go, you can look yourself and see how tight some of the FF TDs were to not getting in.

Itchy

Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on February 13, 2020, 08:47:28 AM
Quote from: Itchy on February 12, 2020, 10:17:16 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on February 12, 2020, 08:44:58 PM
Quote from: weareros on February 12, 2020, 06:32:26 PM
But they will still be ministers. All continue in their caretaker role, including Leo as caretaker Taoiseach, until a new government is formed. Technically he could be Taoiseach for many months including as Hound said the visit to the White House on St. Paddy's Day. Indeed, if there is a new election later if no gov can be formed, he could go to the country slightly more popular than he was in February and come back with the most number of seats. Stranger things have happened.

Another election could see both FF and FG pick up seats.
They would have refined their manifestos and would have a right go at SF's fairytale.

See that is pure rubbish! Have a right go? what do you think they did in this election. They got every media outlet in the country to attack SF, they dragged up a 13 year old murder case and manipulated a grieving mother to further their goals. And they still failed and if SF ran in an election tomorrow they could take another 6 or 7 seats. You clearly have a hatred of SF, that's fair enough, but you are talking total garbage there - the kitchen sink was already thrown at SF and it failed and done nothing but drive people towards them.

Breege Quinn raised the story, still no apology

Breege Quinn has raised the story for 13 years, it got on front pages and into debates last week! If you think that is some sort of accident then there is nothing I can do for you.

Angelo

#1107
The mask has slipped with FF. Apart from dinosaurs over the ages of 60 they have no voter base, people will remember the impacts the crash caused by them has had and they are dying as a party. Younger people now are a lot wiser than to be brainwashed by the establishment media and state broadcaster, the extremes they went to with the Paul Quinn coverage only seemed to galvanize the SF vote, if the establishment media and RTE would only show enough vigour and appetite to pursue the white collar criminals who have actually caused genuine hardship for the citizens of the state then it might be doing its duty.

The bottom line is cases like Paul Quinn and other cases linked to the IRA, as barbaric as some of them have been, one side of these stories is only heard. The Paul Quinn case has no impact on the majority of the citizens in the state, the widespread institutional corruption, incompetence and negligence presided over by the establishment parties has had a wide ranging and in many cases, tragic impact on a huge proportion of the state's citizens.
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Taylor

Quote from: Itchy on February 13, 2020, 09:31:45 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on February 13, 2020, 08:47:28 AM
Quote from: Itchy on February 12, 2020, 10:17:16 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on February 12, 2020, 08:44:58 PM
Quote from: weareros on February 12, 2020, 06:32:26 PM
But they will still be ministers. All continue in their caretaker role, including Leo as caretaker Taoiseach, until a new government is formed. Technically he could be Taoiseach for many months including as Hound said the visit to the White House on St. Paddy's Day. Indeed, if there is a new election later if no gov can be formed, he could go to the country slightly more popular than he was in February and come back with the most number of seats. Stranger things have happened.

Another election could see both FF and FG pick up seats.
They would have refined their manifestos and would have a right go at SF's fairytale.

See that is pure rubbish! Have a right go? what do you think they did in this election. They got every media outlet in the country to attack SF, they dragged up a 13 year old murder case and manipulated a grieving mother to further their goals. And they still failed and if SF ran in an election tomorrow they could take another 6 or 7 seats. You clearly have a hatred of SF, that's fair enough, but you are talking total garbage there - the kitchen sink was already thrown at SF and it failed and done nothing but drive people towards them.

Breege Quinn raised the story, still no apology

Breege Quinn has raised the story for 13 years, it got on front pages and into debates last week! If you think that is some sort of accident then there is nothing I can do for you.

Prior to the election and indeed since it how much exposure has that poor woman got?

It was shocking how they exploited the families grief

Main Street

Quote from: magpie seanie on February 13, 2020, 09:04:03 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 13, 2020, 08:33:10 AM
They'd  also be blamed by many for not being adult enough to do a deal to form a Government.

We've disagreed plenty but I think you've nailed it there. That's FF/FG's plan. The numbers don't add up but they'll still be believed by many when they spout this line.

No one wants an election though so I hope they act like adults and get on with it in the end.
That's the obvious plan to blame Sinn Fein but it's not working is it? not since Sinn Fein have been on the front foot post election and are being perceived as the party who wants do a deal . However FG and FF said they would not share with SF. How do you think it can be conjured by FF and FG that it's Sinn Fein's fault for not convincing them to do a coalition deal  when they (FF &FG) both publicly claimed they would not do?

It's being set up for a FF+FG+GP coalition.