NFL Division 1 2024

[onefineday]

We talked on the way home of how this can and should be motivation for other counties that, with the right organisation, work rate and team building (because at the end of the day, Gallagher brought these men together and bonded them with the belief that they can do great things) pretty much anything can happen. Micky and Horse have added to the squad. Some of the play for periods in every game this year has been exceptional.

There's no doubting that Gallagher brought them together and gave them belief and and some incredibly innovative tactics imo.
But we can't disregard the step change in underage performance. From 2008 - 2014, I'm fairly sure Derry won one Ulster minor championship game (against Fermanagh iirc), from 2015 to present they've progressed to the all Ireland series on 7 out of 9 occasions and won 2 all Ireland titles, so the players are there.

Re criticism of lynch, I've been slow to come round to him, but can appreciate how important his creating the overlap is now, he knows his limitations and the risks, but his play making is superb and he's now contributing far more going forward than in his early years where it could the risk reward could be questioned.
Great game and great win for Derry, but there's a long road ahead and we'll hardly get too carried away. The tale of last year's league winners is there to caution us.

[Milltown Row2]

The free at the end of normal time, not even remotely a free. Allowing Dublin to take the 45 which lead to the goal after Fenton send off is mysterious to say the least. I thought it should been a throw up ball at least  from where that incident occurred. There were 2 High tackles on McFaul and McAvoy which were obvious fouls and Lane let both go.

you can't make rules up

[nrico2006]

Why did the ref not give a free after Fentons foul?

[Armagh18]

Why did the ref not give a free after Fentons foul?

Never seen a free given for that situation? Red card was correct call.

[nrico2006]

Why did the ref not give a free after Fentons foul?

Never seen a free given for that situation? Red card was correct call.

Surely if a player commits a foul, that leads to a red, then it should be a free. Can't see how Dublin still get to take the 45.

[Itchy]

The free at the end of normal time, not even remotely a free. Allowing Dublin to take the 45 which lead to the goal after Fenton send off is mysterious to say the least. I thought it should been a throw up ball at least  from where that incident occurred. There were 2 High tackles on McFaul and McAvoy which were obvious fouls and Lane let both go.

Has already been explained here by a referee. There were plenty of questionable decisions in Derry's favour as well.

Also looking forward to a few years of Dublin/Derry rivalry to come, based on today.

Derry very good underage at the minute too. Last year's minors were outstanding.

Jesus Christ, it was a superb game of football. Why go on about the referee. For what it's worth I thought he was very good but I'm sure he made a mistake or two.

[tonto1888]

The free at the end of normal time, not even remotely a free. Allowing Dublin to take the 45 which lead to the goal after Fenton send off is mysterious to say the least. I thought it should been a throw up ball at least  from where that incident occurred. There were 2 High tackles on McFaul and McAvoy which were obvious fouls and Lane let both go.

Has already been explained here by a referee. There were plenty of questionable decisions in Derry's favour as well.

Also looking forward to a few years of Dublin/Derry rivalry to come, based on today.

Derry very good underage at the minute too. Last year's minors were outstanding.

Jesus Christ, it was a superb game of football. Why go on about the referee. For what it's worth I thought he was very good but I'm sure he made a mistake or two.

Because we have to have something to complain about. Can't just be celebrating the good can we

[Rossfan]

Incident happened, ref didn't see it as he was following the ball.
After the ball went out of play for a 45 he was alerted to the incident and took what he believed was the appropriate action i.e red card.
Then play resumed with the 45.

If a Derry forward hit a Dublin defender off the ball at the same time , got sent off, it wouldn't be a free out for Dublin.

[nrico2006]

Incident happened, ref didn't see it as he was following the ball.
After the ball went out of play for a 45 he was alerted to the incident and took what he believed was the appropriate action i.e red card.
Then play resumed with the 45.

If a Derry forward hit a Dublin defender off the ball at the same time , got sent off, it wouldn't be a free out for Dublin.

But surely it should be a free in those circumstances, not simply a case of continue irrelevant of the foul.

[thewobbler]

Referees have been called back, at the next break in play, by umpires and linesmen to discuss off-the-ball incidents, since forever and a day. Some will act on their fellow official's advice and administer cards, some will not. But I don't yet think I've ever seen the previous passage of play cancelled as a result of the retrospective card / cards.

I think some people have been watching too much association football and its bizarre and erratic implementation of VAR, and gotten confused.

[nrico2006]

Referees have been called back, at the next break in play, by umpires and linesmen to discuss off-the-ball incidents, since forever and a day. Some will act on their fellow official's advice and administer cards, some will not. But I don't yet think I've ever seen the previous passage of play cancelled as a result of the retrospective card / cards.

I think some people have been watching too much association football and its bizarre and erratic implementation of VAR, and gotten confused.

Nah, common sense really. Throw ball should be the next step at a minimum.

[thewobbler]

Referees have been called back, at the next break in play, by umpires and linesmen to discuss off-the-ball incidents, since forever and a day. Some will act on their fellow official's advice and administer cards, some will not. But I don't yet think I've ever seen the previous passage of play cancelled as a result of the retrospective card / cards.

I think some people have been watching too much association football and its bizarre and erratic implementation of VAR, and gotten confused.

Nah, common sense really. Throw ball should be the next step at a minimum.

And what if from the resultant passage of play, a high ball goes in, two players challenge awkwardly, then get up off the floor and beat the reed out of each other in front of the referee?

Is it commonsense to ignore that passage of play too and just take the game back to a free for Derry where Fenton's lash out took place?

[thewobbler]

... or a more likely scenario with modern cynical coaching...

Chrissy McKaigue spots that the linesman is going to call play back, and this passage of play is irrelevant, so takes the opportunity to land a high tackle on Con O'Callaghan.

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This post is in no way indicative of Chrissy McKaigue's temperament. He's a fabulous baller. This is purely for the purposes of example.

[Milltown Row2]

It's crazy the amount of Gaels who haven't a fecking clue about the actual rules!!

But have no problem squealing at the ref!

Read he rules and understand them

Did a rules test the other day, 97% in hurling rules and the best I did in the football rules was 89%

There are some rules on the test that are strange to say the least and not common sense. But don't get confused with soccer

[thewobbler]

As for a "throw ball at a minimum".

The best technique a team could use to get the ball quickly up field, when protecting or defending a slender lead would be for their corner forward to start wrestling with an opponent in front of the umpires every time the opposition looks ominous.