Meath vs Dublin - Leinster final - the day before the fair.

[BennyCake]

What did Mannion do?

[Baile Brigín 2]

Getting bucketloads of money from outside sources?

Yep, along with a couple of other counties. GAA need to centrally control all county teams spending. All teams prepared within a similar budget.

so drag us down to your level?

[tonto1888]

What did Mannion do?

He fouled a Meath lad who stupidly grabbed him by the collar, ran him back a few yards and threw him down. Mannion went down clutching his face despite not being touched in the face. Apparently it was as bad as what McCann done against Monaghan a few years ago and if you don't agree you're part of a conspiracy

[thejuice]

So you say there's a lot we're not doing but here's the reality you don't actually know.

Meath have had strength and conditioning coaches since Banty took over. We must be using the wrong ones so.

Dublin's fitness I agree is above ours but honestly it's above everyone else's. Perhaps you can fill us in on the training regime of the Dublin squad so we all know what to aspire to. Dare I suggest you don't actually know that either.

As I already said we started late on improving things in the late 90's but to suggest that this Dublin team are just a slight cut above the rest because we're not putting in the effort is just wrong. I'm not blaming Dublin. You're making the most of your resources and we are trying to get the most of ours but I honestly don't think it will be enough if Dublin stay at the level they're at.

And another thing Sid. In terms of coaching, we have a manager who won a club All Ireland with Ballyboden so he knows a thing or two about the standard in Dublin and what level we need to be at. We have Colm Nally who is regarded as one of the best in the backroom and he has improved us loads. High quality coaches like that don't grow on trees. We're lucky to have them. There's no one else of that calibre in Meath.

Club management is a different ball game to inter county

Some have the ability to make the step up, some don't

Obviously, that doesn't back up anything you've said. Management skills have to come from somewhere. Knowing what it takes to be a fitter stronger and faster than the Dublin team has to come from someone with experience of it. Again, I don't see how we're going to close that gap. There isn't a better coaching or management option in Meath right now than what we have. We're fitter than we've ever been yet somehow we're still 16 points worse than plucky little Dublin.

[Angelo]

Angela, you're a right moron aren't ye. Compromise me? How would that be?

You haven't addressed the following questions individually.


Was it simulation?

Did he try to get his opponent sent off by means of deception?

Do you believe Mannion did nothing wrong?

Are some acts of simulation more acceptable than other acts of simulation?

And you haven't answered the questions regarding the Meath man throwing himself to the ground and if you only highlight incidents which involved Dublin players. Some balance there

Was that the Meath no 10 in the first half? It happened on the Dublin 45 yard line and the only replay available was from the Hill end. Impossible to make it out from the camera angle but cheating is cheating.

Now, can you finally address the questions posed or are you afraid the answers might compromise you?

[tonto1888]

So you say there's a lot we're not doing but here's the reality you don't actually know.

Meath have had strength and conditioning coaches since Banty took over. We must be using the wrong ones so.

Dublin's fitness I agree is above ours but honestly it's above everyone else's. Perhaps you can fill us in on the training regime of the Dublin squad so we all know what to aspire to. Dare I suggest you don't actually know that either.

As I already said we started late on improving things in the late 90's but to suggest that this Dublin team are just a slight cut above the rest because we're not putting in the effort is just wrong. I'm not blaming Dublin. You're making the most of your resources and we are trying to get the most of ours but I honestly don't think it will be enough if Dublin stay at the level they're at.

And another thing Sid. In terms of coaching, we have a manager who won a club All Ireland with Ballyboden so he knows a thing or two about the standard in Dublin and what level we need to be at. We have Colm Nally who is regarded as one of the best in the backroom and he has improved us loads. High quality coaches like that don't grow on trees. We're lucky to have them. There's no one else of that calibre in Meath.

Club management is a different ball game to inter county

Some have the ability to make the step up, some don't

Obviously, that doesn't back up anything you've said. Management skills have to come from somewhere. Knowing what it takes to be a fitter stronger and faster than the Dublin team has to come from someone with experience of it. Again, I don't see how we're going to close that gap. There isn't a better coaching or management option in Meath right now than what we have. We're fitter than we've ever been yet somehow we're still 16 points worse than plucky little Dublin.

Shame you didn't have your shooting boots with you today. First half and start of second half especially. Result wouldn't have changed but score line would have been a lot kinder

[BennyCake]

What did Mannion do?

He fouled a Meath lad who stupidly grabbed him by the collar, ran him back a few yards and threw him down. Mannion went down clutching his face despite not being touched in the face. Apparently it was as bad as what McCann done against Monaghan a few years ago and if you don't agree you're part of a conspiracy

Oh aye I think I seen that.

He did shove him by the throat though. Dangerous that is. I still maintain contact with head or neck should be red.

[Angelo]

What did Mannion do?

He got shoved in the chest and fell to the ground making out he had been struck in the face. He stayed down for about 2 minutes receiving treatment after. It was all hushed up though, I'm surprised the moralists here have lost their voice. Some forms of cheating are just more acceptable than others I guess.

[tonto1888]

Angela, you're a right moron aren't ye. Compromise me? How would that be?

You haven't addressed the following questions individually.


Was it simulation?

Did he try to get his opponent sent off by means of deception?

Do you believe Mannion did nothing wrong?

Are some acts of simulation more acceptable than other acts of simulation?

And you haven't answered the questions regarding the Meath man throwing himself to the ground and if you only highlight incidents which involved Dublin players. Some balance there

Was that the Meath no 10 in the first half? It happened on the Dublin 45 yard line and the only replay available was from the Hill end. Impossible to make it out from the camera angle but cheating is cheating.

Now, can you finally address the questions posed or are you afraid the answers might compromise you?

Dunno what his number was. And I've already answered your questions. Mannion was wrong. Cheating is wrong and I hate it when my own players do it. What McCann done was a lot worse than Mannion today.  But I'm gonna play your game. How exactly would I be compromised

[tonto1888]

What did Mannion do?

He got shoved in the chest and fell to the ground making out he had been struck in the face. He stayed down for about 2 minutes receiving treatment after. It was all hushed up though, I'm surprised the moralists here have lost their voice. Some forms of cheating are just more acceptable than others I guess.

You left out the part where his collar was grabbed and head forced back. You also left out the part where a Meath man tried to pull him up off the ground

[thejuice]

So you say there's a lot we're not doing but here's the reality you don't actually know.

Meath have had strength and conditioning coaches since Banty took over. We must be using the wrong ones so.

Dublin's fitness I agree is above ours but honestly it's above everyone else's. Perhaps you can fill us in on the training regime of the Dublin squad so we all know what to aspire to. Dare I suggest you don't actually know that either.

As I already said we started late on improving things in the late 90's but to suggest that this Dublin team are just a slight cut above the rest because we're not putting in the effort is just wrong. I'm not blaming Dublin. You're making the most of your resources and we are trying to get the most of ours but I honestly don't think it will be enough if Dublin stay at the level they're at.

And another thing Sid. In terms of coaching, we have a manager who won a club All Ireland with Ballyboden so he knows a thing or two about the standard in Dublin and what level we need to be at. We have Colm Nally who is regarded as one of the best in the backroom and he has improved us loads. High quality coaches like that don't grow on trees. We're lucky to have them. There's no one else of that calibre in Meath.

Club management is a different ball game to inter county

Some have the ability to make the step up, some don't

Obviously, that doesn't back up anything you've said. Management skills have to come from somewhere. Knowing what it takes to be a fitter stronger and faster than the Dublin team has to come from someone with experience of it. Again, I don't see how we're going to close that gap. There isn't a better coaching or management option in Meath right now than what we have. We're fitter than we've ever been yet somehow we're still 16 points worse than plucky little Dublin.

Shame you didn't have your shooting boots with you today. First half and start of second half especially. Result wouldn't have changed but score line would have been a lot kinder

Yes. Shooting was very poor but it was a new experience for some of these lads to be playing against that level of defense unlike Carlow, Laois or Louth or even Donegal for that matter. I can understand how Andy showed faith in James Conlon but he looks too fresh for this level still. He's got great potential but needs a bit more experience and build up a bit.

[BennyCake]

What did Mannion do?

He got shoved in the chest and fell to the ground making out he had been struck in the face. He stayed down for about 2 minutes receiving treatment after. It was all hushed up though, I'm surprised the moralists here have lost their voice. Some forms of cheating are just more acceptable than others I guess.

You left out the part where his collar was grabbed and head forced back. You also left out the part where a Meath man tried to pull him up off the ground

That should be a red card also.

[tonto1888]

So you say there's a lot we're not doing but here's the reality you don't actually know.

Meath have had strength and conditioning coaches since Banty took over. We must be using the wrong ones so.

Dublin's fitness I agree is above ours but honestly it's above everyone else's. Perhaps you can fill us in on the training regime of the Dublin squad so we all know what to aspire to. Dare I suggest you don't actually know that either.

As I already said we started late on improving things in the late 90's but to suggest that this Dublin team are just a slight cut above the rest because we're not putting in the effort is just wrong. I'm not blaming Dublin. You're making the most of your resources and we are trying to get the most of ours but I honestly don't think it will be enough if Dublin stay at the level they're at.

And another thing Sid. In terms of coaching, we have a manager who won a club All Ireland with Ballyboden so he knows a thing or two about the standard in Dublin and what level we need to be at. We have Colm Nally who is regarded as one of the best in the backroom and he has improved us loads. High quality coaches like that don't grow on trees. We're lucky to have them. There's no one else of that calibre in Meath.

Club management is a different ball game to inter county

Some have the ability to make the step up, some don't

Obviously, that doesn't back up anything you've said. Management skills have to come from somewhere. Knowing what it takes to be a fitter stronger and faster than the Dublin team has to come from someone with experience of it. Again, I don't see how we're going to close that gap. There isn't a better coaching or management option in Meath right now than what we have. We're fitter than we've ever been yet somehow we're still 16 points worse than plucky little Dublin.

Shame you didn't have your shooting boots with you today. First half and start of second half especially. Result wouldn't have changed but score line would have been a lot kinder

Yes. Shooting was very poor but it was a new experience for some of these lads to be playing against that level of defense unlike Carlow, Laois or Louth or even Donegal for that matter. I can understand how Andy showed faith in James Conlon but he looks too fresh for this level still. He's got great potential but needs a bit more experience and build up a bit.

Hopefully they learn from it but you would fear losing in that manner could set them back a bit

[thejuice]

Hopefully not. We're not the first team to take a hammering from Dublin. No one should be surprised by today and it's not like there wasn't any promising individual performances. Our defensive play was good in places. We can still get back into the mix in the championship if we choose to keep our heads up. We can beat any other team in the draw if we play to the best of our abilities. There's no one else in the draw even close to Dublin's level.

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