Tyrone Club Football and Hurling

[Under Lights]

I would well believe that Carmen didn't throw the game, truth is they just aren't very good these days. Could see them really struggling for another few years

[Gaafan2]

Never thought I'd see the day Carmen and clonoe would be handing out points. Pathetic. Two clubs with 'so much tradition'! Some craic at the bottom of the table now all the same!

The carmen game wasn't thrown. Penrose didnt play for them but that was understandable. Anyone at the game woulda knew Carmen where most definitely not handing points. The fact they had two men sent off shows they werent laying down. Was poor conditions and the goals made the difference.

They may not have thrown it but they certainly played a weakened team. Carmen at full strength win that game all day long, especially home.

[BIGONE]

Aghyaran beat carmen reserves every day of the week. Galbally the same against clonoe reserves.

[The Trap]

Club boi as far as I am aware at the minute the following clubs are managed by clubmen  in division one: errigle Carmen dromore donaghmore galbally clonoe ardboe coalisland trillick. Dromore galbally clonoe and coalisland had outside managers at start of the year but at varying stages this changed with dromore the last.

[Soviet Unionist]

Club boi as far as I am aware at the minute the following clubs are managed by clubmen  in division one: errigle Carmen dromore donaghmore galbally clonoe ardboe coalisland trillick. Dromore galbally clonoe and coalisland had outside managers at start of the year but at varying stages this changed with dromore the last.

Eďendork have Barton.

[the prodigy]

Aghyaran beat carmen reserves every day of the week. Galbally the same against clonoe reserves.

Clonoe had the full senior team out, they didn't throw the points

[scout]

1   An Eaglais, Naoimh Pádraig   14   13   1   0   249   166   26
2   Loughmacrory St. Teresa's   14   9   1   4   190   142   22
3   Gortin St Patrick's   14   9   2   3   189   118   21
4   Dungannon Thomas Clarke GAA   14   9   4   1   230   180   19
5   ER O`Neill's GAC, Leckpatrick   14   6   5   3   198   172   15
6   An táite Riabhach Naoimh Pádraig   14   6   5   3   203   197   15
7   Stewartstown Harps   14   7   6   1   202   203   15
8   Augher St Macartan's GFC   14   7   6   1   186   187   15
9   Moortown St Malachy's   14   5   7   2   193   215   12
10   Cookstown Fr. Rock's GAA   14   5   7   2   165   192   12
11   Strabane Sigersons   14   4   7   3   186   190   11
12   Urney St Columba's   14   4   7   3   194   228   11
13   An Caisleán Glas Naoimh Pádraig   14   5   9   0   152   161   10
14   Achadh Lú Uí Néill   14   4   8   2   217   229   10
15   Kildress Wolfe Tones   14   3   7   4   177   239   10
16   Derrytresk Fir an Chnoic   14   0   14   0   147   259   0

[The Golden Years]

Aghyaran beat carmen reserves every day of the week. Galbally the same against clonoe reserves.

I dont think 13 out 15 players that started the Championship against Errigal a reserve team.  The issue here is the attitude of players.  We had nothing to play for and went through the motions.  Aghyaran were fighting for their survival and were up for the game.  This was reflective of the result.  These teams had 13 games previous to this to get themselves safe.  No point blaming other teams when the lose to their rivals for relegation.  I usually find the league table doesnt lie.

[redhandofgod]

How many points did Carrickmore and Galbally pick up in starred games playing against teams without county players when they aren't disadvantaged as they have no county players???

[Redhand Santa]

How many points did Carrickmore and Galbally pick up in starred games playing against teams without county players when they aren't disadvantaged as they have no county players???

Looks like the only one for Carrickmore was a victory over Moy. But given they are only a point above them in the table a reversal of that result and it easily could have been them sitting still not safe or able to give points away. The league table does lie when teams get points at this time of year against teams not trying or who have switched off for the year. League system needs changed so that it can be wrapped up pre championship and teams are more likely to put in the effort in more games.

[redhandofgod]

Carmen beat Edendork in a starred game as well, that's 4 points with the Moy game.
Galbally got 3, 1 point of Coalisland and 2 off ardboe

[HalfBack7]

When teams finish with equal points for qualification for the concluding staged, or for
promotion or relegation, the tie shall be decided by the following means and in the order
specified:
i) The outcome of the meeting(s) of the teams in the previous game(s) in the
competition
ii) The largest scoring difference (subtracting the total scores against from the total
scores for) in the meetings of the teams in the previous game(s)
iii) The highest total scores for, in the meeting(s) of the teams in the previous game(s)
iv) Largest overall league scoring difference (subtracting the total scores against from
total scores for)
v) The highest overall league total score for
vi) A playoff

Exceptions:
a) In relation to means outlined in (ii), (iii), (iv) and (v) above, if the accumulated scores of a
team, so involved, are affected by a disqualification, loss of game on a proven objection,
retirement or walk over, the tie shall be decided by playoff.
b) Regulations (i), (ii), (iii), (iv) and (v) shall not apply to Under16 or younger age grade
competitions

[clarshack]

1   An Eaglais, Naoimh Pádraig   14   13   1   0   249   166   26
2   Loughmacrory St. Teresa's   14   9   1   4   190   142   22
3   Gortin St Patrick's   14   9   2   3   189   118   21
4   Dungannon Thomas Clarke GAA   14   9   4   1   230   180   19
5   ER O`Neill's GAC, Leckpatrick   14   6   5   3   198   172   15
6   An táite Riabhach Naoimh Pádraig   14   6   5   3   203   197   15
7   Stewartstown Harps   14   7   6   1   202   203   15
8   Augher St Macartan's GFC   14   7   6   1   186   187   15
9   Moortown St Malachy's   14   5   7   2   193   215   12
10   Cookstown Fr. Rock's GAA   14   5   7   2   165   192   12
11   Strabane Sigersons   14   4   7   3   186   190   11
12   Urney St Columba's   14   4   7   3   194   228   11
13   An Caisleán Glas Naoimh Pádraig   14   5   9   0   152   161   10
14   Achadh Lú Uí Néill   14   4   8   2   217   229   10
15   Kildress Wolfe Tones   14   3   7   4   177   239   10
16   Derrytresk Fir an Chnoic   14   0   14   0   147   259   0

it's real tight at the bottom of division 2.  i'd expect Cookstown to beat Derrytresk, Greencastle to beat Moortown, Urney to beat Eglish, Dungannon to beat Strabane, and the way we are playing at the minute Kildress have a decent chance of 2 points but their score difference is really bad so it mightn't even matter if they win or not. Aghaloo v Gortin is the game that is the hardest to call but i'll go for a narrow Aghaloo victory.
this would leave Strabane on 11 pts with 4 teams then on 12 pts needing score difference to separate them.
think it will be Kildress v Strabane in the playoff with the loser relegated.

[scout]

Looking at D2 the playoffs in my view will be Loughmacrory-Dungannon.4th is highest Dungannon can finish.
Gortin-Owen Roes (Roes most likely,stown seems to have downed tools, and other depends on championship result)

At the bottom, strabane probably will get a win (Clarkes have playoff spot secured already, and don't think they can surpass Gortin),Urney to beat Eglish (league wrapped up & trophy handed over?), Aghaloo getting points off Gortin apparently (who have a wedding), Cookstown to beat Derrytresk to guarantee safety, Greencastle to just tip Moortown with home advantage. Kildress to beat Stewartstown (who didnt push/want promotion playoffs,based on this weekends result).

So that would leave in most likelihood, though my maths is not the greatest,the playoffs as:

Loughmacrory-Dungannon
Gortin-Owen Roes (or Tattyreagh/Augher/Stewartstown)

Moortown-Kildress

[jb81]

Would I be right in assuming that the County Finals next week will be shown online on TyroneTV.
Looks like TG4 won't be showing the senior final.