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I was going to reply to the 'local' argument earlier but didn't bother - but since someone has now - all of the point squad bar one or two are from Point/Rostrevor/Newry, hardly like they are being shipped in from China. A good few have come through the underage ranks. I know your post is anti soccer rather than anti point but point are a bad example to use for the 'local' argument.

Most of the players are from a 10 mile radius but looking at the last team sheet maybe only two of the subs ( Boyle and Smith ) have come through the underage ranks.

No fan of Burren, but what blow-ins have they lost that they were relying on.

good to see the B team CPN look like winning div 2

I heard a rumour today that a ref was assaulted in a reserve final. Sad day and I hope the culprit is banned heavily.
We are in dire straits at the minute in Burren. The confidence is lost  but with our full squad back we can still compete with the best.

Reserve Final?? Bit early for that...

Felix Darby?

WGM that's harsh, but definitely some questionable decisions made along line but that also happened in the championship final last year too.

Truth is Burren are still missing Cathal Murdock, Gerard McCartan, Declan Rooney, Anton McArdle and Shay McArdle, add in Kevin, Donal, Dan and its a big loss.

However we were still winning tonight a relinquished a 3 or 4 point lead, we lacked fight and belief in key areas.

The management must now sort out the players that are there and ensure they are playing for the jersey and playing for their places.

Too many boys in cruise control and badly in need of a rocket.

Its upto Paddy Carr and Gavin Murdock to ensure that everyone is pushed to the limit to get things back on track and moving forward.

That will tell whether they can emulate Frank or Mickey or Jimmy as you put it.

Can't really count Rooney he doesn't play for Burren sure! Are the likes of Sean Murdock, James McGovern, Conor Toner, Eamon Toner etc playing?

Ok Rooney has transferrred but on top of those mentioned James McGovern is in australia, Eamonn McGovern suffered a horrific knee injury and is out, Alan Higgins who was our immediate cover in midfield is also in america.

Its a real test for the remaining players and a bigger test for the management to get them winning again and doing anything of note this year.

Thankfully our county players and panellists should be back in the fold now.

Surely it was only a matter of time before Burren would hit a barren patch at senior level. You can't rely on blow ins forever to bring you success. Now they have to use true home grown talent we will see just how strong Burren are as a senior team. The east down clubs look to hold the aces at the moment.

Hope Down minors give Tyrone minors a better game than they did in the Ulster league. Was at the game and Down minors didn't look as strong as last years team and thought Tyrone looked every bit as good as the previous year. Although teams always seem to find a little bit extra come championship time. Hopefully we see two good games of football.

[As someone else said the point should walk div 2]

Burren are not going to be the threat of prior years as they have 6 or 7 lads not there from previous years all who would have played county football.

Kilcoo will still be the team to beat but Bryansford will be my dark horses as Dawson always has his teams ready and well motivated in his first couple of years in charge.  Also felt that Pete held them back a bit with what looked a very good squad on paper.  The bridge and Castlewellan will also be around the top 4but unlikely to win anything.

Can't see Ballyholland being anything more than mid table, they won't have any relegation problems but are still too reliant to Murtagh for scores.  They have also lost a very good manager.

With all due respect to both teams I would be surprised if either Glenn or Tullylish reach double figures.

As someone else said the point should walk div 2

I am struggling to understand how Warrenpoint will walk Div 2 this year as they were a very poor team in Div 1 last year and obviously out of their depth. In times when most clubs squads are being weakened with lads leaving the country have they been able to buck the trend and strenghten their squad ? I know they have 3 players in the county squad but sure they won't be available all the time to line out for their club.

Although you would find it hard to believe given the lack of activity on this board, the Div 1 & 2 seasons start next Friday and I for one cannot wait for it.  Here are my predictions for the winners and losers for this year.
Winners
Div 1/Senior - Burren and Kilcoo as per usual to fight it out for top spot. Castlewellan and Bryansford the most likely to break the duopoly.  Bridge and Saval the best of the rest.
Div 2/Intermediate - Warrenpoint to walk Div 2 and probably the Intermediate Championship although An Riocht will contest and Liatrom (who are in Div 1) will provide competition in the Championship.

Losers
Div 1/Senior - Although Glenn and Tullylish will begin the year well it is hard to see them sustaining it in a tough league.  By the time Aug/Sep comes around I think they will be finding it hard against seasoned senior teams.  Strugglers for the last few years include Liatrom which I think should continue.
Div 2/Intermediate - Aghaderg to find the step up far too much - effiectively coming from Div 4 last year, and playing against recent Div 1 teams in Warrenpoint and An Riocht.

I think Bosco have some promising young players and should provide some decent opposition to Warrenpoint and An Riocht

Np
Cathal Murray or mussein should have made the call as both are experienced.
Would have seen the replay on Thursday.
Am not a college man but genuinely disappointed for the kid who missed.

I agree, tough on the young lad but fairplay at least he wasn't afraid to take on the responsiblity, would have been a hero if he had score though. Thought Haugey would have been their go to man in a situation like that.

Name the corner forward.

13 or 15 hmmmmmmmmmmmmm ? I'm sure anyone who took the time to go to the game will be able to work it out.

And anyone who took the time to go to the game would know 15 didn't start.

only leaves one candidate then

Name the corner forward.

13 or 15 hmmmmmmmmmmmmm ? I'm sure anyone who took the time to go to the game will be able to work it out.

academy win by 4 in the end
wasn't at it so cant give an update

The difference was Academy played as a team and took their chances. Abbey forwards extremely wasteful, particularly one corner forward who played as an individual not passing the ball when he should have and shooting from impossible angles. Fantastic venue. Would suggest Academy have a lot of work to do defensively, based on the amount of scoring chances the Abbey had.

Oh THE college. Jesting HS. I know Violet Hill self claim the rights to that title but there are a few pretenders who that word drives crazy.

Fancy THE Academy myself lol.

I think the Abbey with Paddy Power at 7/4 are very tempting odds for tonights match.

Does  anyone know how many of the Truagh U-21 team played in their  intermediate All Ireland success or in the build up to it?

They were comfortable enough against Cullyhanna at the weekend, and as KYMI says, they have a lot of momentum going into these semis.

Portglenone weren't fancied to be in the top four in Antrim, we might have been about fifth or sixth in the "perceived" pecking order. Great excitement around the town, we should bring a decent crowd with us on Sunday. Truagh probably a bridge too far - but sure we will go up and give it a lash. Great to get to this stage and every extra day is a bonus now.

A perception is as dangerous as an assumption! Any team with the crowd behind it will be tricky opponents.

No one fancy Portglenone - they took a big scalp in the 1st round.

Who are the College??

Bannside you jest, St Colmans probably the most successful side in the competition

Anyone know where and what time the college v  omagh game is?