Sam Maguire permutations

Started by seafoid, April 11, 2023, 09:40:18 PM

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AustinPowers

Quote from: GAABoardMod5 on June 18, 2023, 09:44:19 AM
Quote from: restorepride on June 18, 2023, 09:24:58 AM
"The four quarter-final winners shall play against each other in the Semi-Final based on a draw"  - is this accurate?

I presume it to mean there is no link between groups of provincial winners.  Previous competition rules were "the Ulster champions, or the team that beat them, will play Munster winners, or the team that beats them".

No such words written this year, except teams from the same group cannot meet again until the final...at least that's my reading of it. 

I've been wrong before though...

Yes , never thought  of this

With  the traditional rotational  semi finals vpairings , this year would  be Ulster v Leinster and  Munster v Connacht.  But Kerry might  play Gslway in a preliminary QF , so that  would mean one of the  provincial Winners  would exit before the QFs.  So , the semi final  pairings might actually involve an open  draw

Rossfan

Read the TO lads and lasses or else the Mods postings.
That Ulster/ Leinster thingy was mooted by HQ (CCCC?) but as some poster here pointed out it was against the Rule in TO so had to be dropped.
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Wildweasel74

Dublin just laying in the long grass, probably start to go up through the gears from here on in.

Blowitupref

Group winners and into the All Ireland Quarters - Kerry, Dublin, Derry and Armagh

2nd in their group and have home last 12 tie Cork, Kildare*, Donegal and Galway.  (*Nowlan Park)

3rd and away tie next weekend Mayo, Monaghan,Tyrone and Roscommon

Out at the group stage Sligo, Westmeath, Louth and Clare.
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

yellowcard

Quote from: Blowitupref on June 18, 2023, 06:15:42 PM
Group winners and into the All Ireland Quarters - Kerry, Dublin, Derry and Armagh

2nd in their group and have home last 12 tie Cork, Kildare*, Donegal and Galway.  (*Nowlan Park)

3rd and away tie next weekend Mayo, Monaghan,Tyrone and Roscommon

Out at the group stage Sligo, Westmeath, Louth and Clare.

And everybody would have predicted those 4 teams would be knocked out at the start. So in effect we played 24 games to get rid of the 4 teams we thought would go out in the first instance. There was a bit of excitement today but by and large those group games were a long grind to get from 16 teams down to 12.

This is where the real stuff starts now.

screenexile

Is the QF draw made tomorrow ie will Derry Kerry Dublin and Armagh find out which match their next opponents will come from?

An Watcher

Not 100% but don't think so

RedHand88

Quote from: screenexile on June 18, 2023, 06:39:05 PM
Is the QF draw made tomorrow ie will Derry Kerry Dublin and Armagh find out which match their next opponents will come from?

Nah that would make too much sense to do.

yellowcard

Can a team draw another side they already played in the provincial series or in the group stages in a quarter final? If so then there is no point in doing 2 draws tomorrow since we don't yet know which 4 teams will come through.

twohands!!!

Quote from: screenexile on June 18, 2023, 06:39:05 PM
Is the QF draw made tomorrow ie will Derry Kerry Dublin and Armagh find out which match their next opponents will come from?

It can't be drawn tomorrow as there is no way to do the draw until they know the four winning preliminary quarterfinalists so as to avoid repeat fixtures in the quarter-finals.

omagh_gael


twohands!!!


tonto1888

Quote from: RedHand88 on June 18, 2023, 06:58:39 PM
Quote from: screenexile on June 18, 2023, 06:39:05 PM
Is the QF draw made tomorrow ie will Derry Kerry Dublin and Armagh find out which match their next opponents will come from?

Nah that would make too much sense to do.

It actually makes sense to not do it tomorrow

AustinPowers

Quote from: yellowcard on June 18, 2023, 06:38:51 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 18, 2023, 06:15:42 PM
Group winners and into the All Ireland Quarters - Kerry, Dublin, Derry and Armagh

2nd in their group and have home last 12 tie Cork, Kildare*, Donegal and Galway.  (*Nowlan Park)

3rd and away tie next weekend Mayo, Monaghan,Tyrone and Roscommon

Out at the group stage Sligo, Westmeath, Louth and Clare.

And everybody would have predicted those 4 teams would be knocked out at the start. So in effect we played 24 games to get rid of the 4 teams we thought would go out in the first instance. There was a bit of excitement today but by and large those group games were a long grind to get from 16 teams down to 12.

This is where the real stuff starts now.

Yep , that's  pretty much what   I thought before all  these group games  started

Blowitupref

Quote from: yellowcard on June 18, 2023, 06:38:51 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 18, 2023, 06:15:42 PM
Group winners and into the All Ireland Quarters - Kerry, Dublin, Derry and Armagh

2nd in their group and have home last 12 tie Cork, Kildare*, Donegal and Galway.  (*Nowlan Park)

3rd and away tie next weekend Mayo, Monaghan,Tyrone and Roscommon

Out at the group stage Sligo, Westmeath, Louth and Clare.

And everybody would have predicted those 4 teams would be knocked out at the start. So in effect we played 24 games to get rid of the 4 teams we thought would go out in the first instance. There was a bit of excitement today but by and large those group games were a long grind to get from 16 teams down to 12.

This is where the real stuff starts now.

Most would have predicted those four teams but Westmeath was a kick of the ball away from reaching the last 12 and knocking Tyrone out.  Had Sligo won against Kildare (drew and had what looked like a point waved wide) they would have finished 3rd in the group.
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose