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[how are the idiotic actions of a 21 year old man-child (for which he was convicted) comparable to serious domestic violence allegations?]

The primary responsibility of leadership in the GAA is one of stewardship. We are all duty bound
to develop the Association for future generations such that it is safely handed on better and
stronger than before, with its aims and ethos safeguarded and bolstered.

Kyle Hayes is under the stewardship of Limerick management - we're told. I guess the aims and ethos are to run with the fox and hunt with the hounds. Thanks for clearing that up Jarlath

Do we take a carte blanche approach then to crimes committed by GAA members or how would you broach the subject?

People keep bringing up Kyle Hayes but how are the idiotic actions of a 21 year old man-child (for which he was convicted) comparable to serious domestic violence allegations?

Not every crime or misdemeanour is the same, do we allow them all or do we draw a line somewhere?

A conviction for serious physical assault should really trump something that has never gone further than a post on Facebook.

Depends how you look at it. Years of domestic violence is a lot more serious than a fight on a night out.

My rationale is that Kyle Hayes went through the legal process and in the eyes of the law has been sufficiently punished and rehabilitated. I think what he did was a cúntish thing to do but we'd all be lying to ourselves if we said he was the only intercounty footballer to ever get in a scrap on a night out.

Has he been rehabilitated? He didn't get into a 'scrap' though, if that was the case he'd have not went to court and be convicted of assault. Not sure why you are downplaying that.

Not sure why Jarlath chooses to attack one over the other.

If my kid was on the end of that assault I'd be looking at the GAA to be as even handed in their approach

I don't know. Probably not. I'm not downplaying anything, just stating the fact that 21 year old males are mentally underdeveloped in terms of maturity. His charges were reduced (acquitted of assault) but that's irrelevant. Someone in Kyle Hayes position - young, impressionable, stupid, immature, etc might be better served getting a bit of mentorship, guidance and positive influences such as remaining a part of his team instead of going straight to jail for a first offence.

If Kyle Hayes' situation is the exact same as RG's (conviction aside) then I have to disagree. I'm not saying RG should be permanently excluded from the GAA but surely something more robust than "the PPS don't think he has a case to answer so fire away" has to be in place.

[how are the idiotic actions of a 21 year old man-child (for which he was convicted) comparable to serious domestic violence allegations?]

The primary responsibility of leadership in the GAA is one of stewardship. We are all duty bound
to develop the Association for future generations such that it is safely handed on better and
stronger than before, with its aims and ethos safeguarded and bolstered.

Kyle Hayes is under the stewardship of Limerick management - we're told. I guess the aims and ethos are to run with the fox and hunt with the hounds. Thanks for clearing that up Jarlath

Do we take a carte blanche approach then to crimes committed by GAA members or how would you broach the subject?

People keep bringing up Kyle Hayes but how are the idiotic actions of a 21 year old man-child (for which he was convicted) comparable to serious domestic violence allegations?

Not every crime or misdemeanour is the same, do we allow them all or do we draw a line somewhere?

A conviction for serious physical assault should really trump something that has never gone further than a post on Facebook.

Depends how you look at it. Years of domestic violence is a lot more serious than a fight on a night out.

My rationale is that Kyle Hayes went through the legal process and in the eyes of the law has been sufficiently punished and rehabilitated. I think what he did was a cúntish thing to do but we'd all be lying to ourselves if we said he was the only intercounty footballer to ever get in a scrap on a night out.

The primary responsibility of leadership in the GAA is one of stewardship. We are all duty bound
to develop the Association for future generations such that it is safely handed on better and
stronger than before, with its aims and ethos safeguarded and bolstered.

Kyle Hayes is under the stewardship of Limerick management - we're told. I guess the aims and ethos are to run with the fox and hunt with the hounds. Thanks for clearing that up Jarlath

Do we take a carte blanche approach then to crimes committed by GAA members or how would you broach the subject?

People keep bringing up Kyle Hayes but how are the idiotic actions of a 21 year old man-child (for which he was convicted) comparable to serious domestic violence allegations?

Not every crime or misdemeanour is the same, do we allow them all or do we draw a line somewhere?

Another one missing the point between an allegation and a conviction. Hint: one is worse than the other.

There are people walking freely around where I live who have never been convicted of anything but the dogs in the street know exactly what they did in the early 90s.

The primary responsibility of leadership in the GAA is one of stewardship. We are all duty bound
to develop the Association for future generations such that it is safely handed on better and
stronger than before, with its aims and ethos safeguarded and bolstered.

Kyle Hayes is under the stewardship of Limerick management - we're told. I guess the aims and ethos are to run with the fox and hunt with the hounds. Thanks for clearing that up Jarlath

Do we take a carte blanche approach then to crimes committed by GAA members or how would you broach the subject?

People keep bringing up Kyle Hayes but how are the idiotic actions of a 21 year old man-child (for which he was convicted) comparable to serious domestic violence allegations?

Not every crime or misdemeanour is the same, do we allow them all or do we draw a line somewhere?

Aye I mean she's been at it from no age. People usually blame their misdemeanours on a breakdown in their mental health - don't think she has that excuse.

I just can't believe how gullible some lads can be. Imagine inviting someone you've never met to a wedding! Not condoning the unhinged behaviour of the catfish whatsoever but if I was chatting to someone online (especially some stunner) for more than 2 weeks without meeting them i'd lose interest if I hadn't already spotted the red flags. If something seems too good to be true, it usually is.

Most people know who she is anyway but if she's publicly outed there's probably big issues with regard her mental health.

Yeah that's usually the way of it when someone gets caught out

You've seen nothing to date, in her behaviour, that would suggest mental health challenges?

That's it. She has obviously 'mental health challenges' as they say these days! Has taken living in a fantasy world to a whole other level. Hard to see what she gains by doing this apart from thinking she's in a relationship with a GAA 'star'...

I know a few people who would have known her growing up. Apparently she told people she was texting Eoghan Quigg while he was on X-factor. She claimed to have been texting various county minor players while in school. If there's any truth in this I'd maybe exclude the mental health card. This seems to be behaviour she's exhibited from her youth.

Usually when innocent people are accused of serious offences such a woman-beating they come out strongly defending their reputation. His ex wife and friend may just be very convincing liars and RG totally innocent, but from the outset he hasn't given me the impression that the allegations are totally false.

It's pointless engaging with people like whitey. They're incapable of rational thought. Anyone with half a brain cell can grasp what the Israelis are doing, and have been doing, pre-Oct 7th.

A fist class looper.

The country would be in meltdown if a fella was doing this to woman, she needs locked up.

Fellas are doing this to women albeit not on the same scale. There are Facebook groups in every city where girls post up fellas they've dated or will potentially date who present red flags.

This problem was raised 10 years ago and nothing was done.
People in working class areas are not as savvy with managing money, which explains why the FAI always squanders any cash until it's in ruins.

Aye, who could forgot the pesky working classes cowping the economy post-tiger...

Here you go: https://gript.ie/

It's funny how Rory Gallagher will publicly threaten Burns with legal action but not anyone who made defamatory allegations against a supposed innocent man.

It's a very different scenario. Defamation is a good deal more complicated than that.

I appreciate that, but surely an innocent individual would at least instruct his solicitor to make a bit of noise either through a public statement or letters to persons making the defamation. He didn't hang about with JB.

It's funny how Rory Gallagher will publicly threaten Burns with legal action but not anyone who made defamatory allegations against a supposed innocent man.

Maybe more counties should cook the books like Derry.

Let's be honest, if CE or Cross were able to field a 2nds team capable of challenging at senior level you'd still have people saying they should play in a "reserve team only" championship. (I know the above scenario may not be permissible under current rules but you get the gist).