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Title: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on July 25, 2018, 05:09:23 PM
Nil all draw incoming.
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: Main Street on July 26, 2018, 08:55:05 AM
This is not a bad scenario for Monaghan to meet Galway in their stick or twist state.
I'd say a number of their star players will be on the subs bench but ready to be rolled out if needs be.
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: seafoid on July 26, 2018, 01:30:13 PM
Could be like Germany and Austria in the 82 world cup. They didn't want Algeria to qualify from the group. Starring Kerry as Algeria.
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: RedHand88 on July 26, 2018, 01:32:19 PM
Quote from: seafoid on July 26, 2018, 01:30:13 PM
Could be like Germany and Austria in the 82 world cup. They didn't want Algeria to qualify from the group. Starring Kerry as Algeria.

Perfectly legitimate analogy.  :D
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: galwayman on July 26, 2018, 01:32:39 PM
Neither side wants the Dubs in the semi final though so it's not that straightforward.
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: Jinxy on July 26, 2018, 01:45:17 PM
Monaghan know exactly what they need to do.
Galway on the other hand might be a bit wishy-washy.
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on July 26, 2018, 02:25:10 PM
Good to see Ian Burke getting a bit of recognition finally although Kevin Walsh might prefer if he wasn't in the minds of opposition coaches so much.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/gaa/ian-burke-is-as-important-as-damien-comer-to-galway-857694.html (https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/gaa/ian-burke-is-as-important-as-damien-comer-to-galway-857694.html)

QuotePerched in the Hogan Stand last St Patrick's Day for the AIB All-Ireland Club SFC final, it was clear we were watching an attacking master craftsman at work for Corofin.

And no, we are not talking about Martin Farragher, scorer of six points in open play.

Instead we are referring to a man Joe Brolly called the "consummate footballer" on The Sunday Game, Ian Burke.
The roaming corner-forward, something a man on the field that day in Tomás Ó Sé acknowledged, also on The Sunday Game, tormented Nemo Rangers. Scratch that, we'll go with mesmerised.

Burke is not particularly imposing physically, but he has the Goliath of footballing brains. Added to that, he has the vision of a shrewd snooker player, the real top-level ones that think four, five and six shots ahead of their opponent. And both his brain and vision allow Burke to appreciate space more efficiently than the other players around him.

Burke raised just two white flags against Nemo, and one in St Conleth's Park in Newbridge last Sunday.

Yet, on those occasions, and as has generally been the case throughout this year for club and county, I would strongly doubt any other player in the country has directly contributed to as many scores for his teammates than Burke. The man must have the highest assist count in the land.

When Galway get Burke on the ball in the opposition's defensive third of the field, scores tend to follow.

Traditionalists that prefer the use of the foot as a player's greatest weapon might lavish less praise on Burke. However, he is arguably the deadliest fist-passer of a ball in the game at present.

After he drops off his marker to turn and face the goal the Tribesmen are attacking, Burke sees the landscape in front of him as Magnus Carlsen would a chessboard.

And his execution of a pass that links the play so effectively is devastating. Short kick-passes and handpasses might seem like the easiest things in the world to get right. However, at that level you have so little time to get the execution on the money that they are far tougher exercises than some people might suggest.

And, as we saw in Monaghan's last attack in added-time against Kerry when the game was there for them to win again, if a handpass is mistimed or misplaced even a tiny bit, an offensive play can breakdown easily.

Yet, with Burke around, Galway do not have that problem. Obviously, no player is going to be completely accurate and penetrative with his plays, but the forward in question is right at the top of his game currently and whichever team meets the westerners in the All-Ireland semi-final, they will have a task on their hands to nullify him.

While some will point to Damien Comer as being Galway's central attacking operator, there is a swell of support behind the theory that Burke's presence is of equal importance.

Galway, basically, would not be half as effective offensively without him.

Therefore, their potential opponents may be based served to man-mark Burke in the last four of the All-Ireland series.

Of course, even then he may still have the desired impact on the game Kevin Walsh and co so desire.
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: joemamas on July 26, 2018, 02:30:51 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on July 26, 2018, 01:45:17 PM
Monaghan know exactly what they need to do.
Galway on the other hand might be a bit wishy-washy.

True,
Do they go baldheaded for it and end up losing by a point or two and risk a key injury for a game a week later.
One thing for sure Monaghan wont be holding back.
I think Monaghan win in either scenario.
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: Pocaide on July 26, 2018, 04:33:54 PM
Do think Galway will go all out for the win to avoid Dublin. Probably will rest maybe two or three of the starting 15.
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: Jinxy on July 26, 2018, 05:29:45 PM
If I was Galway or Monaghan, I'd rather play the Dubs in a semi-final.
They'll be going in on the back of a 20 point hammering of the Rossies.
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: Duine Eile on July 26, 2018, 05:38:23 PM
Poor Paul Conroy actually has breaks in both his legs after the Kerry game. Hopefully his recovery goes well for him. I hope we see the likes of Danny Cummins, Kieran Molloy, Adrian Varley etc get a start in this game, of course they're going to want to win and top the group but putting out a full team after a busy few weeks, possibly losing or picking up unnecessary black/red cards would be madness. We're going to have to play Dublin at some stage if we have notions about this team, what does it matter whether it's a semi final or a final.
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: Jinxy on July 26, 2018, 05:39:28 PM
I've never heard of anyone in any field sport breaking both their legs at the same time.
Talk about bad luck.
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: Duine Eile on July 26, 2018, 05:41:29 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on July 26, 2018, 05:39:28 PM
I've never heard of anyone in any field sport breaking both their legs at the same time.
Talk about bad luck.

Right leg not as bad as the left but still rotten luck.
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: galwayman on July 26, 2018, 05:42:45 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on July 26, 2018, 05:29:45 PM
If I was Galway or Monaghan, I'd rather play the Dubs in a semi-final.
They'll be going in on the back of a 20 point hammering of the Rossies.
Sure that makes no difference to them. They go into their quarter and semi finals most years on the back of hammering somebody.
And they are already top of the group so will rest a heap of their main men anyway.
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: Jinxy on July 26, 2018, 05:45:14 PM
Nerves more of an issue on final day.
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: blanketattack on July 26, 2018, 05:47:47 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on July 26, 2018, 05:39:28 PM
I've never heard of anyone in any field sport breaking both their legs at the same time.
Talk about bad luck.

Ruddock broke both of Andy Coles legs
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: Jinxy on July 26, 2018, 05:57:31 PM
Did he fall on him?
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: GaillimhIarthair on July 26, 2018, 06:00:59 PM
We must be doing something right as Ewen McKenna has a very complimentary piece about us in today's Indo! 😜.
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: galwayman on July 26, 2018, 06:18:05 PM
Quote from: GaillimhIarthair on July 26, 2018, 06:00:59 PM
We must be doing something right as Ewen McKenna has a very complimentary piece about us in today's Indo! 😜.
Is he still on Matt Cooper's sports section on Today Fm?
Christ above he is painful.I heard him a good few times on Today Fm during the World Cup.
Talk about a moany, whiney w**ker. It's all he did on the radio for the whole tournament.
Surely there is more to proper sports journalism than just being a moany bitch the whole time?
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: Duine Eile on July 26, 2018, 06:19:02 PM
Quote from: GaillimhIarthair on July 26, 2018, 06:00:59 PM
We must be doing something right as Ewen McKenna has a very complimentary piece about us in today's Indo! 😜.

What an absolute crock of shit, Galway are hateful and spiteful now  ::) be careful Monaghan!
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: GaillimhIarthair on July 26, 2018, 06:35:59 PM
Quote from: galwayman on July 26, 2018, 06:18:05 PM
Quote from: GaillimhIarthair on July 26, 2018, 06:00:59 PM
We must be doing something right as Ewen McKenna has a very complimentary piece about us in today's Indo! 😜.
Is he still on Matt Cooper's sports section on Today Fm?
Christ above he is painful.I heard him a good few times on Today Fm during the World Cup.
Talk about a moany, whiney w**ker. It's all he did on the radio for the whole tournament.
Surely there is more to proper sports journalism than just being a moany bitch the whole time?
I thought he was based in Brazil?  You'd wonder was he even in Newbridge?  He just seems to want to court controversy at every turn - not sure if I have seen him write a complimentary piece on any sports topic!!
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on July 26, 2018, 06:39:41 PM
Quote from: GaillimhIarthair on July 26, 2018, 06:00:59 PM
We must be doing something right as Ewen McKenna has a very complimentary piece about us in today's Indo! 😜.

I wouldn't mind but most of the violent incidents in the game were Kildare players on Galway players. The red card. Cathal Sweeney was it who got absolutely poleaxed running down the wing by a bodycheck/kick and Adrian Varley at the final whistle getting the head boxed off him on the ground. But Ewan is more worked up by a bit of jersey pullng than punches or kicks. I don't think I played a match in my entire life where I didn't get held or get my jersey pulled at some point.

I think the bit on Sean Andy is out of order to he honest. Saying he saw him throw a punch off the ball. With zero evidence of this. Was he even at the game or did he see this from Brazil? Think it's poor form to bring up things like that. Players jostle off the ball all the time but journalists don't usually try and hang one player in the national media off the back of it.
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: galwayman on July 26, 2018, 07:07:00 PM
Have only just got around to reading it.
It's quite obvious he wasn't at the game. He hasn't a bean what he's talking about.
Look at the first response to the article on his twitter feed where he is pulled up for stating that O Ceallaigh threw a punch at the start of the game.
He takes a still photograph of lads grappling and states that there was a left hook to the face thrown when there clearly wasn't.
Absolute idiot.
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on July 26, 2018, 07:15:06 PM
Quote from: galwayman on July 26, 2018, 07:07:00 PM
Have only just got around to reading it.
It's quite obvious he wasn't at the game. He hasn't a bean what he's talking about.
Look at the first response to the article on his twitter feed where he is pulled up for stating that O Ceallaigh threw a punch at the start of the game.
He takes a still photograph of lads grappling and states that there was a left hook to the face thrown when there clearly wasn't.
Absolute idiot.

If he's using that photo as proof it's fairly clear that it's just two players jostling with one another. Sean Andy has a hold of the neck of Cribbin's jersey.
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on July 26, 2018, 07:39:06 PM
This clown obviously wasn't at the match, to assert that Kildare didn't engage in exactly the same of the ball stuff he's railing against is just a lie.

Some facts that Ewan might consider:
He is not correct about the punch he claims Sean Andy threw, I saw the whole thing at the start of the match, the same jostling and holding of jerseys you see in every match.
Flynn red was a red, get over it.
Peter Cooke was struck by a punch into the gut off the ball, should have been a straight red, no sanction.
Varley assaulted with 2 straight punches to his back at the end of the match, no sanction.
Sweeney could have had his ankle broken near the end of the match by the most disgraceful and premeditated "tackle" of the whole game, the Kildare man responsible is the only player on either side that should be ashamed of themselves after Sunday.

I don't know why I'm even riled by this spoofer who didn't even attend the match but that whingefest from Mckenna is unfortunately very reflective of some real belly aching on social media by some Kildare fans since Sunday, the absolute hypocrisy of the lot of them is annoying me more than anything.
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on July 28, 2018, 07:31:46 PM
Be hardly anyone in at this now it's clashing with the hurling
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: Duine Eile on July 28, 2018, 08:05:00 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on July 28, 2018, 07:31:46 PM
Be hardly anyone in at this now it's clashing with the hurling

After all the bad press in th last few weeks will they make another silly decision and have 2 Galway teams playing in different venues on the same day? What's to stop them playing it Sunday in Thurles?
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: Jinxy on July 28, 2018, 08:07:12 PM
It is on Sunday in Thurles.
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: Duine Eile on July 28, 2018, 08:20:03 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on July 28, 2018, 08:07:12 PM
It is on Sunday in Thurles.

Common sense prevails after all! 👍🏻
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on July 28, 2018, 09:00:21 PM
I'd still stay the attendance will be a little lower than it would've been but nothing you can do about it now. Although the round of super 8s should've been played off this week
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on July 29, 2018, 07:53:21 PM
Michael Daly unlikely to be risked, tight hamstring apparently
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: Main Street on July 29, 2018, 10:23:17 PM
Should other Galway players feel a need not to risk their tight hamstrings, they will be looked upon with upmost sympathy and respect.
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: rrhf on July 29, 2018, 11:33:17 PM
 am I right that both teams just need a draw to eliminate Kerry
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: CornUladh02 on July 29, 2018, 11:58:59 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on July 28, 2018, 09:00:21 PM
I'd still stay the attendance will be a little lower than it would've been but nothing you can do about it now. Although the round of super 8s should've been played off this week
Pretty hard of amateur lads to play 3 matches in 3 weeks after coming through the qualifiers also for some teams so I'd disagree with you.
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: From the Bunker on July 30, 2018, 12:05:33 AM
Quote from: rrhf on July 29, 2018, 11:33:17 PM
am I right that both teams just need a draw to eliminate Kerry

Yes, Kerry are totally reliant on a Galway win to get through.
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on July 30, 2018, 03:02:22 PM
Quote from: rrhf on July 29, 2018, 11:33:17 PM
am I right that both teams just need a draw to eliminate Kerry

Yes a draw would make sure Monaghan go through and it would also keep Galway top. Works well for both sides involved...
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: Main Street on July 30, 2018, 05:10:18 PM
And Kerry not progressing would be the bonus benefit.
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: Unlaoised on July 31, 2018, 11:23:09 AM
Bookies have reduced the odds on the draw.........


Mmmmmmmm
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: RedHand88 on July 31, 2018, 11:43:13 AM
Quote from: Unlaoised on July 31, 2018, 11:23:09 AM
Bookies have reduced the odds on the draw.........


Mmmmmmmm

If I were Monaghan I would be wary of some Galway bucko acting a hero when its a draw in injury time  ::) Best just going for the win.
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on July 31, 2018, 11:47:37 AM
Surely that is just in response to the money punters are placing on it.
Both teams will be going for the win, if it's level 2/3 minutes into injury time then I could see Monaghan maybe taking what they have rather than risking going out altogether but before that...I can't see it.
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: JoG2 on July 31, 2018, 12:06:33 PM
Quote from: CornUladh02 on July 29, 2018, 11:58:59 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on July 28, 2018, 09:00:21 PM
I'd still stay the attendance will be a little lower than it would've been but nothing you can do about it now. Although the round of super 8s should've been played off this week
Pretty hard of amateur lads to play 3 matches in 3 weeks after coming through the qualifiers also for some teams so I'd disagree with you.

I'd say county footballers could manage 70mins of football every 7 days. It's the lottery of injuries that would be the concern. Would have been better to play the 3 games in 3 weeks allowing for a weeks break afore the semi' s
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: GrandMasterFlash on July 31, 2018, 12:07:48 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on July 31, 2018, 11:47:37 AM
Surely that is just in response to the money punters are placing on it.
Both teams will be going for the win, if it's level 2/3 minutes into injury time then I could see Monaghan maybe taking what they have rather than risking going out altogether but before that...I can't see it.

Hmm.. that sounds like a high-wire strategy to me.. Monaghan should play to the final whistle with the intention of winning. They should (hopefully) have learned from the Kerry game that trying to play keep-ball does not work if not executed correctly.. If you're going to play keep-ball in an attempt to draw the opposition up the field then you need to break for a score, rather than just trying to run down the clock.. Had that of been done the last day then we wouldn't be in this sticky situation..

I'm confident that they can win on their own merit however, rather than by some sort of hoodoo-whataboutery-if-then-else-magic..

Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on July 31, 2018, 12:37:41 PM
Don't get me wrong I don't think either Monaghan or Galway will play for the draw at all, but if Monaghan are 3 minutes into 4 minutes of injury time and in possession on their own 21 while it's a draw match do they go all out for the one point win and leave themselves open to a counter attack?

Bit of a narrative emerging that Monaghan will win purely down to the fact that Galway don't need to, I cannot see Galway just meekly giving up their excellent winning record and momentum built to date, consistency has been a massive problem for years, it's only now that we're seeing any progress in this area. Galway will be in with a decent shout whatever team they line out with Saturday, they've played 13 league and championship matches this year, the only two games they haven't won were the two against the best team in the country. That has to count for something at this point.
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: Main Street on July 31, 2018, 01:50:59 PM
If it came down to monaghan a point behind and are awarded a penalty at the death, what does Conor do, go for the safe point or the goal?
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: galwayman on July 31, 2018, 02:02:14 PM
I assume we will make 4 or 5 changes whilst still having a strong team out?
Daly won't be risked anyway.
Duggan could do with the gametime.
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on July 31, 2018, 02:21:43 PM
Quote from: Main Street on July 31, 2018, 01:50:59 PM
If it came down to monaghan a point behind and are awarded a penalty at the death, what does Conor do, go for the safe point or the goal?

Far easier to score a penalty these days in football and Lavelle isn't the most imposing goalkeeper, I'd imagine he'd back himself to goal it.
For that last minute scenario though, what's the likelihood of a player getting as far as the Galway penalty area without getting fouled for the free beforehand when a draw would suffice?
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: GrandMasterFlash on July 31, 2018, 02:23:42 PM
http://www.hoganstand.com/Monaghan/Article/Index/288586

"Over the last while you would have to say Damien Comer has come in for a lot of serious attention without getting much out of it. There's lot of hanging-on done before the ball comes in."

Hmmm.. he'd better get used to it right n quick..  ::)
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: Main Street on July 31, 2018, 10:19:24 PM
Maybe Malachy will tínker a bit with the forward line. If Kieran Hughes is fit, possibly start him up front alongside McCarthy. Vinny Corey should have more time on his hands to get involved with the general patterns of the game, now that he doesn't have to embrace Donaghy all the time. Colin Walshe should be  sharper than he was against Kerry.

For sure any Galway team that takes the field will play to win, nevertheless there are questions about how their team will play in the unique championship circumstances they find themselves in, there are no precedents in gaelic football at this level for their interesting predicament. They have already qualified, the do or die championship approach is not an absolute. The semi final is less that 7 days away, what effect will resting a handful of first team regulars have?  Monaghan's task is plain, there is a game out there to be won and they will be all out to win it.
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: GrandMasterFlash on August 02, 2018, 07:39:41 PM
Is there any point in even playing the match, according to Dara: https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/darragh-%C3%B3-s%C3%A9-kerry-can-advance-and-pose-a-real-threat-to-dublin-1.3582275?mode=amp&__twitter_impression=true (https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/darragh-%C3%B3-s%C3%A9-kerry-can-advance-and-pose-a-real-threat-to-dublin-1.3582275?mode=amp&__twitter_impression=true)
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on August 02, 2018, 09:53:46 PM
Quote from: GrandMasterFlash on August 02, 2018, 07:39:41 PM
Is there any point in even playing the match, according to Dara: https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/darragh-%C3%B3-s%C3%A9-kerry-can-advance-and-pose-a-real-threat-to-dublin-1.3582275?mode=amp&__twitter_impression=true (https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/darragh-%C3%B3-s%C3%A9-kerry-can-advance-and-pose-a-real-threat-to-dublin-1.3582275?mode=amp&__twitter_impression=true)

Paywall... what's he saying
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: Niall8100 on August 02, 2018, 11:17:40 PM
Here's Dara's bit about Monaghan:

After that, it comes down to what happens in Salthill. My sense of it is people down here have latched onto the fact that if Monaghan couldn't put Kerry away at home, when they were the better team on the day, then they probably aren't going to be good enough to beat Galway away.

For what it's worth, that's more or less how I see it. The Monaghan team I saw in Clones played a fine game but it was maybe not just the fantastic performance everyone made it out to be. I don't think they will get away with relying on Rory Beggan at one end and Conor McManus at the other, the way they did against Kerry.

Take those two out of the picture and they got four points from the rest of the team in a game where they were on top for long periods. That's not going to get things done against Galway. For a start, McManus is going to be double marked and the Galway defence isn't going to play nice about it. He'll remember the Kerry game as a kind of a holiday romance, a dream he had one time that he'll never see again.

As for Beggan, I'm not so sure he'll be able to have the influence on the scoreboard he had the last day. Okay, his kick-outs should still be up to par – Monaghan are really well-drilled on that aspect of the game, even though Kerry did get to grips with him in the second half.

But at the other end of the pitch, I'll be surprised to see Beggan put up four points or anything like it. Kerry gave Monaghan 12 kickable frees in Clones – McManus took five of them and Beggan took seven. I'll have a bet with anyone that Galway won't be offering up 12 kickable frees on Saturday.

Go back through the games Galway have played in the championship and look at the scoring chances they've been conceding from frees. Against Mayo, it was six. Against Roscommon, it was down to four. Same with Kildare, just four. Even against Dublin in the league final, Dean Rock only got four frees he could kick at goal and one 45.

I know Beggan can kick them from further out than anybody else but even allowing for that, I just can't see Galway giving up as many chances as Kerry did for him to strut his stuff. They're very disciplined in the tackle. They crowd around the man in possession and rough him up without going too far.

And even if they do give Beggan a few kicks, you can be damn sure somebody will do a Kieran Donaghy on it. I'd say it was no coincidence that Beggan's radar started going a bit wonky in the second half when Donaghy started hopping and trotting and mouthing and generally making a nuisance of himself every time he tried a kick.

So if you have McManus double-marked and you have Beggan's scoring power halved or more, where are the Monaghan scores going to come from?

I keep hearing about Conor McCarthy and Jack McCarron and these lads but I haven't seen them go out and win a championship game for Monaghan when the fat is in the fire. It's all grand and fine running up big scores against Division Four teams in the qualifiers. This is big boy stuff now.

I could be wrong but I don't see Monaghan scoring enough to beat Galway. I don't buy this idea either that Galway will be distracted or will be minding themselves for the semi-final. It doesn't work like that at this time of year.


Will be pretty easy job for Malachy O'Rourke to motivate McCarthy and McCarron anyway, just tell them to read that paragraph about them a few times before the game!
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on August 02, 2018, 11:28:31 PM
He forgot about Karl O'Connell too.
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: Kaykays on August 03, 2018, 02:42:43 AM
Bottom line winner avoids Dublin in the semi... get to a final and anything can happen... win or bust in Salthill, who wants it more?? Galway are already in the semis, Monaghan will be by Saturday night... playing the winner of Donegal v Tyrone!!
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Post by: galwayman on August 03, 2018, 06:07:55 AM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 02, 2018, 09:53:46 PM
Quote from: GrandMasterFlash on August 02, 2018, 07:39:41 PM
Is there any point in even playing the match, according to Dara: https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/darragh-%C3%B3-s%C3%A9-kerry-can-advance-and-pose-a-real-threat-to-dublin-1.3582275?mode=amp&__twitter_impression=true (https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/darragh-%C3%B3-s%C3%A9-kerry-can-advance-and-pose-a-real-threat-to-dublin-1.3582275?mode=amp&__twitter_impression=true)

Paywall... what's he saying
Open up a new "incognito window" in Chrome and paste the link in there.
Gets around the pay wall.
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: lenny on August 03, 2018, 07:14:26 AM
Quote from: Niall8100 on August 02, 2018, 11:17:40 PM
Here's Dara's bit about Monaghan:

After that, it comes down to what happens in Salthill. My sense of it is people down here have latched onto the fact that if Monaghan couldn't put Kerry away at home, when they were the better team on the day, then they probably aren't going to be good enough to beat Galway away.

For what it's worth, that's more or less how I see it. The Monaghan team I saw in Clones played a fine game but it was maybe not just the fantastic performance everyone made it out to be. I don't think they will get away with relying on Rory Beggan at one end and Conor McManus at the other, the way they did against Kerry.

Take those two out of the picture and they got four points from the rest of the team in a game where they were on top for long periods. That's not going to get things done against Galway. For a start, McManus is going to be double marked and the Galway defence isn't going to play nice about it. He'll remember the Kerry game as a kind of a holiday romance, a dream he had one time that he'll never see again.

As for Beggan, I'm not so sure he'll be able to have the influence on the scoreboard he had the last day. Okay, his kick-outs should still be up to par – Monaghan are really well-drilled on that aspect of the game, even though Kerry did get to grips with him in the second half.

But at the other end of the pitch, I'll be surprised to see Beggan put up four points or anything like it. Kerry gave Monaghan 12 kickable frees in Clones – McManus took five of them and Beggan took seven. I'll have a bet with anyone that Galway won't be offering up 12 kickable frees on Saturday.

Go back through the games Galway have played in the championship and look at the scoring chances they've been conceding from frees. Against Mayo, it was six. Against Roscommon, it was down to four. Same with Kildare, just four. Even against Dublin in the league final, Dean Rock only got four frees he could kick at goal and one 45.

I know Beggan can kick them from further out than anybody else but even allowing for that, I just can't see Galway giving up as many chances as Kerry did for him to strut his stuff. They're very disciplined in the tackle. They crowd around the man in possession and rough him up without going too far.

And even if they do give Beggan a few kicks, you can be damn sure somebody will do a Kieran Donaghy on it. I'd say it was no coincidence that Beggan's radar started going a bit wonky in the second half when Donaghy started hopping and trotting and mouthing and generally making a nuisance of himself every time he tried a kick.

So if you have McManus double-marked and you have Beggan's scoring power halved or more, where are the Monaghan scores going to come from?

I keep hearing about Conor McCarthy and Jack McCarron and these lads but I haven't seen them go out and win a championship game for Monaghan when the fat is in the fire. It's all grand and fine running up big scores against Division Four teams in the qualifiers. This is big boy stuff now.

I could be wrong but I don't see Monaghan scoring enough to beat Galway. I don't buy this idea either that Galway will be distracted or will be minding themselves for the semi-final. It doesn't work like that at this time of year.


Will be pretty easy job for Malachy O'Rourke to motivate McCarthy and McCarron anyway, just tell them to read that paragraph about them a few times before the game!

That sort of thing can be a double edged sword. On the one hand of course the player will be determined to prove the doubters wrong. On the other hand it will reinforce doubts that  mccarthy and mccarron have about their ability in the big games. It can make the player try too hard and take wrong options. It's dangerous to put too much emphasis on this sort of article from a monaghan point of view. Darragh is probably hoping they do that because he's trying to play on the natural doubts players have about themselves.
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on August 03, 2018, 01:07:15 PM
Seems like Sean Andy won't be risked. One black card away from a suspension.
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on August 03, 2018, 02:39:52 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on August 03, 2018, 01:07:15 PM
Seems like Sean Andy won't be risked. One black card away from a suspension.

He'll might get one of those rescinded on appeal anyway I think, the black card he received against Kerry in the league looked like one that Kyne should have got and was a case of mistaken identity.
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: Blowitupref on August 04, 2018, 05:56:07 PM
Galway starting with a strong team just the few changes from the last game

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DjxRPesW0AAzKzs.jpg)

Monaghan team
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DjxRUHZXoAEKx8X.jpg)

Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: Blowitupref on August 04, 2018, 06:16:05 PM
15 mins gone. Galway with the wind advantage 0-1 Monaghan 0-3. Some poorly taken frees by McManus,Walsh and Comer.
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on August 04, 2018, 06:23:44 PM
Galway looking decidedly average so far, and so long as Monaghan don't do a Monaghan they might even win this.
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: Blowitupref on August 04, 2018, 06:31:13 PM
30 mins gone. Galway 0-4 Monaghan 0-7 and Monaghan are good value for that lead.
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: Blowitupref on August 04, 2018, 06:40:15 PM
Galway 0-5 Monaghan 0-7 Half time.
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: Syferus on August 04, 2018, 06:46:30 PM
Everyone outside of Dublin are so average.
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on August 04, 2018, 06:48:05 PM
Great chance for Monaghan. We're not really at it today. Look like a team with one eye on next weekend already.
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: trileacman on August 04, 2018, 06:50:56 PM
Is this televised or being streamed?
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: MayoBuck on August 04, 2018, 06:53:03 PM
Quote from: trileacman on August 04, 2018, 06:50:56 PM
Is this televised or being streamed?

Sky sports action
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: Main Street on August 04, 2018, 06:57:11 PM
Quote from: trileacman on August 04, 2018, 06:50:56 PM
Is this televised or being streamed?
Both.
Sky televising and GAAgogo streaming

Bookmark this link http://liveonsat.com/los_alt_GAA.php (http://liveonsat.com/los_alt_GAA.php)
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: Captain Obvious on August 04, 2018, 07:08:29 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on August 04, 2018, 06:48:05 PM
Great chance for Monaghan. We're not really at it today. Look like a team with one eye on next weekend already.
Galway look like a side that need to play against team that are poor at defending to impress. The Semi final opponent will defend as well if not better against Galway next weekend as Monaghan today.
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on August 04, 2018, 07:11:47 PM
Hopefully Monaghan keep it going here.
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Post by: Blowitupref on August 04, 2018, 07:12:17 PM
50 mins gone. Galway 0-7 Monaghan 0-11
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: RedHand88 on August 04, 2018, 07:15:39 PM
Double bounce there that nobody seemed to notice.
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: RedHand88 on August 04, 2018, 07:17:49 PM
Some classic Monaghan Dawdling™ on display.
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: Blowitupref on August 04, 2018, 07:22:27 PM
60 mins gone Galway 0-8 Monaghan 0-15. Kerry are on the way out of the championship unless something dramatic happens in the closing minutes
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: Mayo Border on August 04, 2018, 07:26:55 PM
Tommy Tom Tom Carr saying that Galway are waiting until next weekend to bring their full performance.
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on August 04, 2018, 07:27:25 PM
Worst performance of the year by a country mile this by Galway. Never got going at all. Mindset not right for knockout football. Which is what Monaghan are playing.
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: Therealdonald on August 04, 2018, 07:27:52 PM
Quote from: Mayo Border on August 04, 2018, 07:26:55 PM
Tommy Tom Tom Carr saying that Galway are waiting until next weekend to bring their full performance.

There'll be one Ulster team in the All-ireland final anyway.
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 04, 2018, 07:28:36 PM
Dublin will eat them
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: seafoid on August 04, 2018, 07:28:46 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on August 04, 2018, 07:22:27 PM
60 mins gone Galway 0-8 Monaghan 0-15. Kerry are on the way out of the championship unless something dramatic happens in the closing minutes
Some way to beat Kerry- counterintuitive
They want to play Dublin to see how good they are without losing a final
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: larryin89 on August 04, 2018, 07:29:01 PM
Maybe Carr has a point , you'd have to think Galway looked at it and said Dublin might be not at full peak for semi final
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: Therealdonald on August 04, 2018, 07:30:25 PM
Don't agree. The stats show that the closest any team gets to Dublin is in the final. Tyrone/Donegal V Monaghan will be some battle in Croker.
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: seafoid on August 04, 2018, 07:30:32 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on August 04, 2018, 07:27:25 PM
Worst performance of the year by a country mile this by Galway. Never got going at all. Mindset not right for knockout football. Which is what Monaghan are playing.
Mindset right for knockout Kerry football
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: yellowcard on August 04, 2018, 07:31:43 PM
Awful spectacle sprinkled with a few bits of quality (Beggans kicking). Galway have been clueless.
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: highorlow on August 04, 2018, 07:34:02 PM
Fair play to Monaghan, well deserved.

Can't wait to hear the Spillane and the O'Sheas bitching about the Galway puke ball!

Dara will have to eat his words in the paper next week!
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: our_fella on August 04, 2018, 07:34:31 PM
And to think people were calling Comer the best FF in Ireland. Absolutely anonymous once again.
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: highorlow on August 04, 2018, 07:36:51 PM
What did Galway score in the 2nd half ?
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: Therealdonald on August 04, 2018, 07:37:04 PM
Quote from: our_fella on August 04, 2018, 07:34:31 PM
And to think people were calling Comer the best FF in Ireland. Absolutely anonymous once again.

Bull in a china shop.
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: yellowcard on August 04, 2018, 07:38:45 PM
Fantastic support for Monaghan tonight would love to see them get to a final now.
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: Blowitupref on August 04, 2018, 07:39:07 PM
Full time Galway 0-8 Monaghan 0-16. A very comfortable win for Monaghan and have a great chance to reach the All Ireland final now.
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: Captain Obvious on August 04, 2018, 07:39:51 PM
Well done to Monaghan after years of trying they are finally into the All Ireland semi for the first time since the 80s and have the bonus of avoiding Dublin in that semi final. They topped the group because they were the best team in that group is simple as that.
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: Zulu on August 04, 2018, 07:40:54 PM
Quote from: Therealdonald on August 04, 2018, 07:37:04 PM
Quote from: our_fella on August 04, 2018, 07:34:31 PM
And to think people were calling Comer the best FF in Ireland. Absolutely anonymous once again.

Bull in a china shop.

He did nothing to get sent off in fairness. Football refs need to cop on.
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: Zulu on August 04, 2018, 07:43:30 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on August 04, 2018, 07:39:51 PM
Well done to Monaghan after years of trying they are finally into the All Ireland semi for the first time since the 80s and have the bonus of avoiding Dublin in that semi final. They topped the group because they were the best team in that group is simple as that.

Not sure about that. Galway clearly at half pace. Doesn't mean Monaghan weren't the best team but Galway certainly not fully committed.
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 04, 2018, 07:43:57 PM
They look a better option than Tyrone or Donegal if they match up with Dublin in the final and have already beaten them this year@
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: Main Street on August 04, 2018, 07:47:05 PM
Quote from: Zulu on August 04, 2018, 07:43:30 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on August 04, 2018, 07:39:51 PM
Well done to Monaghan after years of trying they are finally into the All Ireland semi for the first time since the 80s and have the bonus of avoiding Dublin in that semi final. They topped the group because they were the best team in that group is simple as that.

Not sure about that. Galway clearly at half pace. Doesn't mean Monaghan weren't the best team but Galway certainly not fully committed.
Best team in the group no question, can't you just admit it?
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: imtommygunn on August 04, 2018, 07:48:09 PM
Quote from: Zulu on August 04, 2018, 07:43:30 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on August 04, 2018, 07:39:51 PM
Well done to Monaghan after years of trying they are finally into the All Ireland semi for the first time since the 80s and have the bonus of avoiding Dublin in that semi final. They topped the group because they were the best team in that group is simple as that.

Not sure about that. Galway clearly at half pace. Doesn't mean Monaghan weren't the best team but Galway certainly not fully committed.

I think Monaghan are equally as good as Galway at least. Galway very disappointing against Kildare.  I am not convinced they are the "real deal" yet but I guess we will see against Dublin. I would say Dublin will win by 5-10 points.

An all ulster semi... first time in a long time.
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: Blowitupref on August 04, 2018, 07:48:33 PM
Quote from: highorlow on August 04, 2018, 07:36:51 PM
What did Galway score in the 2nd half ?
0-3.
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on August 04, 2018, 07:48:44 PM
Quote from: Zulu on August 04, 2018, 07:43:30 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on August 04, 2018, 07:39:51 PM
Well done to Monaghan after years of trying they are finally into the All Ireland semi for the first time since the 80s and have the bonus of avoiding Dublin in that semi final. They topped the group because they were the best team in that group is simple as that.

Not sure about that. Galway clearly at half pace. Doesn't mean Monaghan weren't the best team but Galway certainly not fully committed.

We were absolutely shite today. Didn't try a leg. Especially after half-time. Seen more intensity in some of our league games.

OK being half arsed today but they have to majorly turn that mindset around before next weekend.
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: Mayo Border on August 04, 2018, 07:49:20 PM
Quote from: Zulu on August 04, 2018, 07:43:30 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on August 04, 2018, 07:39:51 PM
Well done to Monaghan after years of trying they are finally into the All Ireland semi for the first time since the 80s and have the bonus of avoiding Dublin in that semi final. They topped the group because they were the best team in that group is simple as that.

Not sure about that. Galway clearly at half pace. Doesn't mean Monaghan weren't the best team but Galway certainly not fully committed.
Not sure about that. Galway needed to win today to maintain momentum. Kevin Walsh has a Difficult job to lift this team over the next 6 days.
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: Main Street on August 04, 2018, 07:56:06 PM
Lovely feeling to be in the semi final, though I didn't think it would be so easy. Malachy set out the team to win the game with perfection, though the finishing from the players was far from perfect.
Galway were obviously caught in a conundrum which affected their game but I was happy enough that Monaghan would have been able to raise their game to beat whatever Galway could offer on the day
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Post by: trileacman on August 04, 2018, 07:58:44 PM
Walsh should have played the b side. It was always going to be tough today and more likely they would lose. Far too much being made here of Galway being poor and Monaghan once more being great. Monaghan lost to Fermanagh let's not forget.

The telling difference between the sides was that Galway were playing a league match and Monaghan were piaying a championship match. That was the difference and Monaghan's greater intensity and hunger was particularly evident.
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: imtommygunn on August 04, 2018, 08:11:41 PM
I don't get why Galway would play with so little intensity. Surely avoiding Dublin was a big prize?

I don't think they have a hope against Dublin.
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on August 04, 2018, 08:15:34 PM
I was impressed with Monaghans winning of the 50/50 balls. Very hard to stop passion. Over all they were more cohesive in their play. Galway hit some shocking wides maybe down to pressure being applied. I could watch Beggan,McManus,McAnespie and a few others on that Monaghan team all day. Great plsyers.
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on August 04, 2018, 08:20:39 PM
Quote from: Baile an tuaigh on August 04, 2018, 08:15:34 PM
I was impressed with Monaghans winning of the 50/50 balls. Very hard to stop passion. Over all they were more cohesive in their play. Galway hit some shocking wides maybe down to pressure being applied. I could watch Beggan,McManus,McAnespie and a few others on that Monaghan team all day. Great plsyers.

Not much flash to him but he gets plenty done.
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: straightred on August 04, 2018, 08:27:36 PM
Quote from: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on August 04, 2018, 08:20:39 PM
Quote from: Baile an tuaigh on August 04, 2018, 08:15:34 PM
I was impressed with Monaghans winning of the 50/50 balls. Very hard to stop passion. Over all they were more cohesive in their play. Galway hit some shocking wides maybe down to pressure being applied. I could watch Beggan,McManus,McAnespie and a few others on that Monaghan team all day. Great plsyers.

Not much flash to him but he gets plenty done.

4 points from play i think? McManus got plenty of help today and when that happens they are especially hard to beat. Hard to believe that the 4th smallest county in ireland will send minor and senior teams to an all ireland semi final
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: Cunny Funt on August 04, 2018, 08:37:40 PM
Congrats to Monaghan they are an example to a lot of the smaller counties to what can be done if they have the right manager/management in place to get the very best out of their players. They were a Div 3 team when O'Rourke arrived and didn't know if they were coming or going some improvement in the last 5 years!

Galway very flat today but it didn't help that their good forwards were totally marked out of the game. They should still give Dublin a better game than Kerry would have done and regardless should be happy with the progress they have made this year.
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: Zulu on August 04, 2018, 08:37:47 PM
Don't really know, but from what I've seen of Galway I thought they were half paced. Would love to see Monaghan win the All Ireland though so firmly on that bandwagon.
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: befair on August 04, 2018, 08:47:16 PM
Old betting maxim; the team that needs the win usually gets the win. Galway seriously lacking in motivation, but didn't look like a team that could challenge Dublin.
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: Main Street on August 04, 2018, 08:49:47 PM
Perhaps Galway were doing an Owen Mulligan and were only using this game in preparation for the next bigger game ;)
It remains to be seen just how much this performance by Galway throws them off the rails, or they recover quickly and become ship shape V Dublin.
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on August 04, 2018, 09:05:11 PM
The number of Monaghan supporters in Salthill this evening was unbelievable, hats off to them on making the semi final after so long, very well deserved.
Galway support was the usual, not good enough really, people will have a cut at the team this evening, and rightly so, but that was an embarrassment for Galway fans, it was like a home match for Monaghan.

Not much to pick apart from the match given that one team was so comprehensively the superior, Galway were second best from minute one right through to the end, no intensity or craft at all, terrible shot execution and selection, once Monaghan got a reasonable lead at the start of the second half there was nothing in response.
Monaghan best in every line of the pitch, they won't fear either Tyrone or Donegal in the semi final.

Galway could take a trimming from the Dubs next Saturday but being realistic if you'd offered Galway retention of Division One status, a Connacht title and an All Ireland semi final appearance back in January, it would have been taken.
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: seafoid on August 04, 2018, 09:16:08 PM
Quote from: seafoid on July 26, 2018, 01:30:13 PM
Could be like Germany and Austria in the 82 world cup. They didn't want Algeria to qualify from the group. Starring Kerry as Algeria.
They will also be going in well under the radar v the Dubs
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on August 04, 2018, 09:29:17 PM
In well under the radar?
If you play the team Galway named this evening you need to get some form of a performance, Monaghan wiped us off the pitch without much fuss at all. If they actually didn't care about the semi final opponent then put out the squad players, it looks like Galway have picked up a few more injuries to compound the meltdown in performance.
The more I reflect on it the more tonight is a big blow to what had been a fairly productive year overall, we're back to a situation where you can't trust Galway to show up day in day out. A double score hammering at home? That's a disaster really.
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: SouthDublinBro on August 04, 2018, 09:30:20 PM
Winning in Croke Park will prove to be a bridge too far for Monaghan, as usual.
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on August 04, 2018, 09:31:11 PM
There was men and women running onto the field at the final whistle who probably had a huge influence with these players back in their local clubs. The unspoken heros when these men were little boys they spent so much time coaching. As for the youngsters who were running onto the pitch who might never forget this moment. This is what  plants the seeds for the next generation. Great to see so much joy.
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: Captain Obvious on August 04, 2018, 09:37:33 PM
Quote from: SouthDublinBro on August 04, 2018, 09:30:20 PM
Winning in Croke Park will prove to be a bridge too far for Monaghan, as usual.
They beat Kildare in Croke Park in round one of the Super 8s and Dublin in round 7 of the NFL.

Quote from: Baile an tuaigh on August 04, 2018, 09:31:11 PM
There was men and women running onto the field at the final whistle who probably had a huge influence with these players back in their local clubs. The unspoken heros when these men were little boys they spent so much time coaching. As for the youngsters who were running onto the pitch who might never forget this moment. This is what  plants the seeds for the next generation. Great to see so much joy.

Pitch celebrations are great to see and its about time that Croke park brought them back also.
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: Schkite on August 04, 2018, 09:38:11 PM
Quote from: SouthDublinBro on August 04, 2018, 09:30:20 PM
Winning in Croke Park will prove to be a bridge too far for Monaghan, as usual.

You are one boring hoor
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: straightred on August 04, 2018, 09:38:36 PM
Quote from: SouthDublinBro on August 04, 2018, 09:30:20 PM
Winning in Croke Park will prove to be a bridge too far for Monaghan, as usual.

in for another snide remark before you scuttle off again I see. They won in croke park twice this year (out of 2 attempts) in case you missed it
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on August 04, 2018, 09:42:33 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on August 04, 2018, 09:29:17 PM
In well under the radar?
If you play the team Galway named this evening you need to get some form of a performance, Monaghan wiped us off the pitch without much fuss at all. If they actually didn't care about the semi final opponent then put out the squad players, it looks like Galway have picked up a few more injuries to compound the meltdown in performance.
The more I reflect on it the more tonight is a big blow to what had been a fairly productive year overall, we're back to a situation where you can't trust Galway to show up day in day out. A double score hammering at home? That's a disaster really.

The biggest worry is how they can switch in 7 days from a mindset where they are half arsed and barely trying a leg to one where they have to be ravenously hungry to compete with a Dublin. You'd prefer to see some sort of consistency of performance. They had it all year but never turned up today.
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: Schkite on August 04, 2018, 09:43:55 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on August 04, 2018, 08:37:40 PM
Congrats to Monaghan they are an example to a lot of the smaller counties to what can be done if they have the right manager/management in place to get the very best out of their players. They were a Div 3 team when O'Rourke arrived and didn't know if they were coming or going some improvement in the last 5 years!

A huge amount of work has been done with underage coaching/development squads within the county over the last 10+ years. Most of the current panel aged mid-20s and under would have come up in that system.

Before 2013 we didn't win an Ulster minor since the 40s, and we've won 2 Ulster minors and an Ulster u21 since, so the work has certainly paid off.
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: straightred on August 04, 2018, 09:50:28 PM
Quote from: Schkite on August 04, 2018, 09:43:55 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on August 04, 2018, 08:37:40 PM
Congrats to Monaghan they are an example to a lot of the smaller counties to what can be done if they have the right manager/management in place to get the very best out of their players. They were a Div 3 team when O'Rourke arrived and didn't know if they were coming or going some improvement in the last 5 years!

A huge amount of work has been done with underage coaching/development squads within the county over the last 10+ years. Most of the current panel aged mid-20s and under would have come up in that system.

Before 2013 we didn't win an Ulster minor since the 40s, and we've won 2 Ulster minors and an Ulster u21 since, so the work has certainly paid off.
and a respectful and cooperative relationship between the clubs and the county setup. That counts for a lot.
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: seafoid on August 04, 2018, 09:59:10 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on August 04, 2018, 09:42:33 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on August 04, 2018, 09:29:17 PM
In well under the radar?
If you play the team Galway named this evening you need to get some form of a performance, Monaghan wiped us off the pitch without much fuss at all. If they actually didn't care about the semi final opponent then put out the squad players, it looks like Galway have picked up a few more injuries to compound the meltdown in performance.
The more I reflect on it the more tonight is a big blow to what had been a fairly productive year overall, we're back to a situation where you can't trust Galway to show up day in day out. A double score hammering at home? That's a disaster really.
The biggest worry is how they can switch in 7 days from a mindset where they are half arsed and barely trying a leg to one where they have to be ravenously hungry to compete with a Dublin.
You'd prefer to see some sort of consistency of performance. They had it all year but never turned up today.
"The biggest worry is how they can switch in 7 days from a mindset where they are half arsed and barely trying a leg to one where they have to be ravenously hungry to compete "

If the hurlers can do it...
They didn't want to win this and they didn't need to. Galway have lost more than enough finals to the Dubs. Better to meet them at the semi stage and see how well they match up.
The Super 8s are not the same as straight knockout. Different calculations. Getting Kerry out of the way is seriously positive should they beat Dublin. It's like cards. I don't think they fear any of the Ulster teams.
The destination of Sam for the next 2 or 3 years may be in play.
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: straightred on August 04, 2018, 10:05:55 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 04, 2018, 09:59:10 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on August 04, 2018, 09:42:33 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on August 04, 2018, 09:29:17 PM
In well under the radar?
If you play the team Galway named this evening you need to get some form of a performance, Monaghan wiped us off the pitch without much fuss at all. If they actually didn't care about the semi final opponent then put out the squad players, it looks like Galway have picked up a few more injuries to compound the meltdown in performance.
The more I reflect on it the more tonight is a big blow to what had been a fairly productive year overall, we're back to a situation where you can't trust Galway to show up day in day out. A double score hammering at home? That's a disaster really.
The biggest worry is how they can switch in 7 days from a mindset where they are half arsed and barely trying a leg to one where they have to be ravenously hungry to compete with a Dublin.
You'd prefer to see some sort of consistency of performance. They had it all year but never turned up today.
"The biggest worry is how they can switch in 7 days from a mindset where they are half arsed and barely trying a leg to one where they have to be ravenously hungry to compete "

If the hurlers can do it...
They didn't want to win this and they didn't need to. Galway have lost more than enough finals to the Dubs. Better to meet them at the semi stage and see how well they match up.
The Super 8s are not the same as straight knockout. Different calculations. Getting Kerry out of the way is seriously positive should they beat Dublin. It's like cards. I don't think they fear any of the Ulster teams.
The destination of Sam for the next 2 or 3 years may be in play.
is that wishful thinking, rewriting history or the truth ? We could argue about it all night but I don't believe a word of it. They started that match tonight trying to win it. They would have taken Walsh off half way through the first half when he was injured if your theory was correct. They were still in it at half time and in fact they finished the first half stronger. However Monaghan were much sharper and hungrier in the 2nd half and thats what won the game. Maybe Galway weren't as hungry but i'm not buying the line "they didn't want to win this and they didn't need to"
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on August 04, 2018, 10:09:24 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on August 04, 2018, 09:42:33 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on August 04, 2018, 09:29:17 PM
In well under the radar?
If you play the team Galway named this evening you need to get some form of a performance, Monaghan wiped us off the pitch without much fuss at all. If they actually didn't care about the semi final opponent then put out the squad players, it looks like Galway have picked up a few more injuries to compound the meltdown in performance.
The more I reflect on it the more tonight is a big blow to what had been a fairly productive year overall, we're back to a situation where you can't trust Galway to show up day in day out. A double score hammering at home? That's a disaster really.

The biggest worry is how they can switch in 7 days from a mindset where they are half arsed and barely trying a leg to one where they have to be ravenously hungry to compete with a Dublin. You'd prefer to see some sort of consistency of performance. They had it all year but never turned up today.

Yeah it's a huge worry alright, at the end of the day realistically no one is expecting them to knock off Dublin but you'd like to see a decent showing to set us up for next year.

Seafoid - I disagree entirely with you, that team went out to get a result, they didn't perform at all.
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: macdanger2 on August 04, 2018, 10:12:41 PM
I normally like to see Connacht teams do well but was delighted for Monaghan today, would love to see ye win it
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: sid waddell on August 04, 2018, 10:15:02 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on August 04, 2018, 09:05:11 PM

Galway support was the usual, not good enough really, people will have a cut at the team this evening, and rightly so, but that was an embarrassment for Galway fans, it was like a home match for Monaghan.


You'd forgive them with qualification already assured and an All-ireland hurling semi-final replay at 2pm tomorrow.

The Monaghan support was absolutely superb all through though. They made it feel like a home game for their team. It was a thoroughly enjoyable and novel occasion to be at and you couldn't but be delighted for them. I have a Monaghan family background too so I must admit to not being at all neutral.

Kerry will have a lot of years in the near future lording it over everybody else, so this was a great victory for the little guy.

Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: johnpower on August 04, 2018, 10:19:39 PM
Well done Monaghan great result hope ye get to the final now
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: larryin89 on August 04, 2018, 10:26:51 PM
As someone said above they were still in it at ht but imo they never looked eager , hungry . It was like go out and play and see what happens if Monaghan start to drive on let them off.

But I still don't get the logic in it unless they brought the thinking we'd be better off playing Dublin in a semi , it's the only thing I can come up with , then again maybe Galway are not near as good as we think , I honestly don't know .
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: Cunny Funt on August 04, 2018, 10:33:41 PM
Quote from: Schkite on August 04, 2018, 09:43:55 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on August 04, 2018, 08:37:40 PM
Congrats to Monaghan they are an example to a lot of the smaller counties to what can be done if they have the right manager/management in place to get the very best out of their players. They were a Div 3 team when O'Rourke arrived and didn't know if they were coming or going some improvement in the last 5 years!

A huge amount of work has been done with underage coaching/development squads within the county over the last 10+ years. Most of the current panel aged mid-20s and under would have come up in that system.

Before 2013 we didn't win an Ulster minor since the 40s, and we've won 2 Ulster minors and an Ulster u21 since, so the work has certainly paid off.

Aren't the only county of a similar size that are doing that but you still need a very good manager backed by a good management team to bring that good work at underage into the senior county team and produce the progress that Monaghan have made in the last 5 years. I would hope that majority of Monaghan supporters appreciate the job that Malachy O'Rourke is doing as a manager as good as him don't come along very often.
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: straightred on August 04, 2018, 10:35:59 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on August 04, 2018, 10:33:41 PM
Quote from: Schkite on August 04, 2018, 09:43:55 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on August 04, 2018, 08:37:40 PM
Congrats to Monaghan they are an example to a lot of the smaller counties to what can be done if they have the right manager/management in place to get the very best out of their players. They were a Div 3 team when O'Rourke arrived and didn't know if they were coming or going some improvement in the last 5 years!

A huge amount of work has been done with underage coaching/development squads within the county over the last 10+ years. Most of the current panel aged mid-20s and under would have come up in that system.

Before 2013 we didn't win an Ulster minor since the 40s, and we've won 2 Ulster minors and an Ulster u21 since, so the work has certainly paid off.

Aren't the only county of a similar size that are doing that but you still need a very good manager backed by a good management team to bring that good work at underage into the senior county team and produce the progress that Monaghan have made in the last 5 years. I would hope that majority of Monaghan supporters appreciate the job that Malachy O'Rourke is doing as a manager as good as him don't come along very often.

I wondered would he walk away after the Dublin 1/4 last year. I honestly thought he had taken them as far as he could but to his credit he has brought a few new players into the team and they've pushed on
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: bennydorano on August 04, 2018, 10:40:27 PM
Jesus you'd think Monaghan have come from nowhere to prominence, they were always one of the top teams in Ulster in my youth and they've very rarely been cannon fodder for any length of time, they're a bit like Armagh in that they produce very good teams cyclically.
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: Lar Naparka on August 04, 2018, 10:42:34 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on August 04, 2018, 10:15:02 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on August 04, 2018, 09:05:11 PM

Galway support was the usual, not good enough really, people will have a cut at the team this evening, and rightly so, but that was an embarrassment for Galway fans, it was like a home match for Monaghan.


You'd forgive them with qualification already assured and an All-ireland hurling semi-final replay at 2pm tomorrow.

The Monaghan support was absolutely superb all through though. They made it feel like a home game for their team. It was a thoroughly enjoyable and novel occasion to be at and you couldn't but be delighted for them. I have a Monaghan family background too so I must admit to not being at all neutral.

Kerry will have a lot of years in the near future lording it over everybody else, so this was a great victory for the little guy.
What makes you think so, sid? I can't see them ever having the financial,logistical and every other conceivable type of superiority over Dublin, including player numbers to be a dominant force ever again- an AI here and there is a possibility, in the near future anyway and the same goes for a few other counties but I'd say probably  3out of every 5 can be marked down to Dublin and that's a conservative estimate.
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: seafoid on August 04, 2018, 10:48:57 PM
I would love to see Monaghan making it to the AIF . Nudie never got that far.
A Monaghan all Ireland would be fantastic.
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: sid waddell on August 04, 2018, 10:57:27 PM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on August 04, 2018, 10:42:34 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on August 04, 2018, 10:15:02 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on August 04, 2018, 09:05:11 PM

Galway support was the usual, not good enough really, people will have a cut at the team this evening, and rightly so, but that was an embarrassment for Galway fans, it was like a home match for Monaghan.


You'd forgive them with qualification already assured and an All-ireland hurling semi-final replay at 2pm tomorrow.

The Monaghan support was absolutely superb all through though. They made it feel like a home game for their team. It was a thoroughly enjoyable and novel occasion to be at and you couldn't but be delighted for them. I have a Monaghan family background too so I must admit to not being at all neutral.

Kerry will have a lot of years in the near future lording it over everybody else, so this was a great victory for the little guy.
What makes you think so, sid? I can't see them ever having the financial,logistical and every other conceivable type of superiority over Dublin, including player numbers to be a dominant force ever again- an AI here and there is a possibility, in the near future anyway and the same goes for a few other counties but I'd say probably  3out of every 5 can be marked down to Dublin and that's a conservative estimate.
Kerry have lots of players, lots of money, lots of talent, and lots of tradition. Lots and lots and lots of tradition, which means success is demanded. When success is demanded it tends to come.

They'll win the All-Ireland next year, and if they don't win it next year they'll win it the year after that. And then they'll win a load more.
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: galwayman on August 04, 2018, 11:31:06 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on August 04, 2018, 10:09:24 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on August 04, 2018, 09:42:33 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on August 04, 2018, 09:29:17 PM
In well under the radar?
If you play the team Galway named this evening you need to get some form of a performance, Monaghan wiped us off the pitch without much fuss at all. If they actually didn't care about the semi final opponent then put out the squad players, it looks like Galway have picked up a few more injuries to compound the meltdown in performance.
The more I reflect on it the more tonight is a big blow to what had been a fairly productive year overall, we're back to a situation where you can't trust Galway to show up day in day out. A double score hammering at home? That's a disaster really.

The biggest worry is how they can switch in 7 days from a mindset where they are half arsed and barely trying a leg to one where they have to be ravenously hungry to compete with a Dublin. You'd prefer to see some sort of consistency of performance. They had it all year but never turned up today.

Yeah it's a huge worry alright, at the end of the day realistically no one is expecting them to knock off Dublin but you'd like to see a decent showing to set us up for next year.

Seafoid - I disagree entirely with you, that team went out to get a result, they didn't perform at all.
100% they did. A shite performance
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: sid waddell on August 04, 2018, 11:39:19 PM
I think Dublin are on the slide. I don't expect Galway to beat them but I expect a totally different Galway performance, the final outcome being something akin to the League final.

There's no individual Dublin forward you'd say is having a great year. It's the overall array of threats that will probably still get them there.

But I'd say there's arguably four Galway forwards that would get their place on the Dublin team at the moment, were they available to Dublin. Comer for certain. Probably Brannigan, Walsh and Burke too.
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: Aaron Boone on August 04, 2018, 11:55:21 PM
Quote from: galwayman on August 04, 2018, 11:31:06 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on August 04, 2018, 10:09:24 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on August 04, 2018, 09:42:33 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on August 04, 2018, 09:29:17 PM
In well under the radar?
If you play the team Galway named this evening you need to get some form of a performance, Monaghan wiped us off the pitch without much fuss at all. If they actually didn't care about the semi final opponent then put out the squad players, it looks like Galway have picked up a few more injuries to compound the meltdown in performance.
The more I reflect on it the more tonight is a big blow to what had been a fairly productive year overall, we're back to a situation where you can't trust Galway to show up day in day out. A double score hammering at home? That's a disaster really.

The biggest worry is how they can switch in 7 days from a mindset where they are half arsed and barely trying a leg to one where they have to be ravenously hungry to compete with a Dublin. You'd prefer to see some sort of consistency of performance. They had it all year but never turned up today.

Yeah it's a huge worry alright, at the end of the day realistically no one is expecting them to knock off Dublin but you'd like to see a decent showing to set us up for next year.

Seafoid - I disagree entirely with you, that team went out to get a result, they didn't perform at all.
100% they did. A shite performance

It's as if the two week break is in the wrong place. Galway management had a tricky match tonight, already qualified vs Monaghan fighting for their lives. If Galway had 2 week break now, they'd be perfectly  well-up for the semi.
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: Captain Obvious on August 05, 2018, 12:02:19 AM
Quote from: sid waddell on August 04, 2018, 11:39:19 PM
I think Dublin are on the slide. I don't expect Galway to beat them but I expect a totally different Galway performance, the final outcome being something akin to the League final.

There's no individual Dublin forward you'd say is having a great year. It's the overall array of threats that will probably still get them there.

But I'd say there's arguably four Galway forwards that would get their place on the Dublin team at the moment, were they available to Dublin. Comer for certain. Probably Brannigan, Walsh and Burke too.

Costello,McManamon are two current sub forwards for Dublin at the moment and both are arguably better than any of those Galway forwards you named there.
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: Rossfan on August 05, 2018, 12:18:31 AM
Congrats to the Monaghan lads,  great to see ye making the Semis after 30 years.
Ye are what we want to be -strong, consistent, well managed and well organised.
I'd love to have Corey or them Wylies or Hugheses in our ranks.
Warriors every one of them -and no bullshit or spin.
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on August 05, 2018, 12:24:07 AM
Quote from: sid waddell on August 04, 2018, 11:39:19 PM
I think Dublin are on the slide. I don't expect Galway to beat them but I expect a totally different Galway performance, the final outcome being something akin to the League final.

There's no individual Dublin forward you'd say is having a great year. It's the overall array of threats that will probably still get them there.

But I'd say there's arguably four Galway forwards that would get their place on the Dublin team at the moment, were they available to Dublin. Comer for certain. Probably Brannigan, Walsh and Burke too.

Dublin will be a totally different beast to the league, they are a phenomenal outfit, I'm surprised that some people think they are on the outs, maybe I'm wrong but I think they'll win it out without too many issues this year.
I can't see personally what Galway lads would slot into that team so easily either.

It will be great, but probably painful also, experience for the Galway team next Saturday against a top class Dublin team, they'll hardly be as flat again but make no mistake that was abject stuff against Monaghan.
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: cornetto on August 05, 2018, 12:44:42 AM
Not a great outing for Galway, and on the injury front Kerin and Sean kelly Not looking too good.
Was in wards hotel after match, mixed views from former stalwarts,some saying we couldn't be that bad,others saying it was mind games,and the scariest one we are gone back to lateral play and slow build up.As said in an earlier post if Galway were not going all out for this game Shane Walsh would have been taken off at first sign of injury.lets hope it's a blip and give the dubs a good old rattle!
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: Syferus on August 05, 2018, 02:02:38 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 05, 2018, 12:18:31 AM
Congrats to the Monaghan lads,  great to see ye making the Semis after 30 years.
Ye are what we want to be -strong, consistent, well managed and well organised.
I'd love to have Corey or them Wylies or Hugheses in our ranks.
Warriors every one of them -and no bullshit or spin.

You are so obsessed with McStay that you couldn't resist even making the best day in living memory for Monaghan about him..
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: Orchard park on August 05, 2018, 03:30:51 AM
Quote from: Syferus on August 05, 2018, 02:02:38 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 05, 2018, 12:18:31 AM
Congrats to the Monaghan lads,  great to see ye making the Semis after 30 years.
Ye are what we want to be -strong, consistent, well managed and well organised.
I'd love to have Corey or them Wylies or Hugheses in our ranks.
Warriors every one of them -and no bullshit or spin.

You are so obsessed with McStay that you couldn't resist even making the best day in living memory for Monaghan about him..

Only you could turn that post into anything referencing McStay....well done the Farney men
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: Rossfan on August 05, 2018, 08:37:24 AM
The village eejit certainly showed who's obsessed with Kevin in that post😀.
And implies that Kevin is one for spin and bullshit 😆😀😁😂.

Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: omagh_gael on August 05, 2018, 10:14:39 AM
I think we'll look back at this game next week and realise Kevin made a huge error. It's one thing sending out a side minus 4-5 starters and give it 75% knowing you're safe, however, going with a full strength team and getting a trimming is the worst of both worlds.

Regardless of what was said in the dressing room their A team just got beat by double scores and looked to have picked up one or two and injuries. That is not an ideal way to go into their biggest game since 2001.

Fair play to Monaghan though. My Mum's a Drumhowan woman so I'm half Farney myself! Really hope we can do the job in Ballybofey today to set up a great game next weekend!
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: Solo_run on August 05, 2018, 11:36:20 AM
When do the tickets for the next round go on sale?
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: Syferus on August 05, 2018, 03:11:13 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 05, 2018, 08:37:24 AM
The village eejit certainly showed who's obsessed with Kevin in that post😀.
And implies that Kevin is one for spin and bullshit 😆😀😁😂.

And you're w man who can't even stand behind what you said in black and white..
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: DJGaliv on August 06, 2018, 09:52:25 PM
What in God's name are we supposed to think after that?

Positives - I thought Tom Flynn was excellent again. He's really pushed on this season, and is now one of our most important and influential players.
Declan Kyne surprisingly did well on Conor McManus.
And...eh....the weather was decent.

Negatives - We were passive in defence, no real old head or leader back there. I felt we missed Heaney's pace on the counter-attack. GOD just doesn't offer the same "break the line" speed that is required for our set up.
Varley is a great impact man, but having him there meant Shane Walsh was moved out the field where his tendency to drift really made the forward line unbalanced. We left three up, but I'd rather see Walsh up there as a link man on their 45 and with Burke and Comer inside.
Our panel is taking a hitting now and I'd worry about our impact off the bench against the Dubs. Watching Sweeney and Cummins come on didn't fill me with confidence.

I think we are a tad unfair on Galway and KW. Easy to say we should have rested a heap of lads and then be thrashed but KW and Galway would have been killed by everyone saying they had disrespected the competition and Kerry. Was it worth that hassle?
The issue was we half did everything. We picked the best team but then didn't really come to fight for it and so left empty handed.
I thought Monaghan were the best team we came up against in the league this year bar Dublin so not overly surprised to lose to them.

Also a word to the travelling Monaghan fans - fair play to ye and well done.
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: Main Street on August 06, 2018, 10:22:59 PM
I suppose it would be fair to say Galway were not actually at the races, but how you put all that behind and get on with the semi final afresh will be an undertaking. I suspect this game has set you back a bit, at least increased the magnitude of the task ahead.
Conor Lane managed the game quite well I thought, I'd be content if he was given the semi final v Tyrone.
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: thebackbar1 on August 07, 2018, 11:22:26 AM
As a matter of interest what did Damian Comer do to deserve a second yellow ?
Title: Re: Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.
Post by: The Subbie on August 07, 2018, 11:23:35 AM
Quote from: thebackbar1 on August 07, 2018, 11:22:26 AM
As a matter of interest what did Damian Comer do to deserve a second yellow ?

Excessive diving