The Many Faces of US Politics...

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whitey

#17070
Quote from: J70 on June 25, 2020, 12:45:55 AM
Get out in front of what, exactly?

A mob attacking the police who are trying to protect their neighborhood from a armed felon who are responding to a call

Not one local politician has offered any support to BPD in recent weeks

People are getting very fed up with the pandering and no one willing to call out wrongdoing

J70

Quote from: whitey on June 25, 2020, 12:50:33 AM
Quote from: J70 on June 25, 2020, 12:45:55 AM
Get out in front of what, exactly?

A mob attacking the police who are trying to protect their neighborhood from a armed felon who are responding to a call

Not one local politician has offered any support to BPD in recent weeks

People are getting very fed up with the pandering and everyone afraid to call out wrongdoing

That's on the local politicians.

I would be surprised if they didn't comment on this incident. You can't have that.

I presume relations between the cops and the community in that area are not good?


Jell 0 Biafra

Quote from: whitey on June 25, 2020, 12:50:33 AM
Quote from: J70 on June 25, 2020, 12:45:55 AM
Get out in front of what, exactly?

A mob attacking the police who are trying to protect their neighborhood from a armed felon who are responding to a call

Not one local politician has offered any support to BPD in recent weeks

People are getting very fed up with the pandering and no one willing to call out wrongdoing

Almost like something a Black Lives Matter spokesperson would say.

Eamonnca1

Quote from: sid waddell on June 25, 2020, 12:23:36 AM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on June 25, 2020, 12:06:03 AM

Biden: 8/11
Trump: 13/8 (1.625/1)
None of that takes into account hacking of election systems and vote falsification. Biden will need to be 15 points in front and in a position where networks can confidently call states for him from exit polls alone.

In 2000, 2004 and 2016, networks were confidently predicting Democratic wins early in the night before each time the Republican candidates mysteriously turned things around.

The reason I prefer to watch betting markets rather than opinion polls is I'd imagine they do take into account the kind of factors you're talking about. That said, Democrats have learned the hard way not to get cocky and to play to the whistle.

whitey

#17074
Quote from: J70 on June 25, 2020, 12:54:16 AM
Quote from: whitey on June 25, 2020, 12:50:33 AM
Quote from: J70 on June 25, 2020, 12:45:55 AM
Get out in front of what, exactly?

A mob attacking the police who are trying to protect their neighborhood from a armed felon who are responding to a call

Not one local politician has offered any support to BPD in recent weeks

People are getting very fed up with the pandering and everyone afraid to call out wrongdoing

That's on the local politicians.

I would be surprised if they didn't comment on this incident. You can't have that.

I presume relations between the cops and the community in that area are not good?

Elizabeth Warren and Ed Markey and Ayana Presley are local politicians. Ayanna Presley used to live in Roxbury iirc

I think in Boston generally relations are better than in other cities, but Roxbury would be the highest crime area in the city so inevitably you will have tensions

Chief is African American

whitey

Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on June 25, 2020, 12:57:50 AM
Quote from: whitey on June 25, 2020, 12:50:33 AM
Quote from: J70 on June 25, 2020, 12:45:55 AM
Get out in front of what, exactly?

A mob attacking the police who are trying to protect their neighborhood from a armed felon who are responding to a call

Not one local politician has offered any support to BPD in recent weeks

People are getting very fed up with the pandering and no one willing to call out wrongdoing

Almost like something a Black Lives Matter spokesperson would say.

Agreed.....EVERYONE SHOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS

johnnycool

Quote from: whitey on June 25, 2020, 01:01:03 AM
Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on June 25, 2020, 12:57:50 AM
Quote from: whitey on June 25, 2020, 12:50:33 AM
Quote from: J70 on June 25, 2020, 12:45:55 AM
Get out in front of what, exactly?

A mob attacking the police who are trying to protect their neighborhood from a armed felon who are responding to a call

Not one local politician has offered any support to BPD in recent weeks

People are getting very fed up with the pandering and no one willing to call out wrongdoing

Almost like something a Black Lives Matter spokesperson would say.

Agreed.....EVERYONE SHOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS

But they're not, especially those meant to protect and serve and that's the problem.


whitey

Quote from: johnnycool on June 25, 2020, 09:32:32 AM
Quote from: whitey on June 25, 2020, 01:01:03 AM
Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on June 25, 2020, 12:57:50 AM
Quote from: whitey on June 25, 2020, 12:50:33 AM
Quote from: J70 on June 25, 2020, 12:45:55 AM
Get out in front of what, exactly?

A mob attacking the police who are trying to protect their neighborhood from a armed felon who are responding to a call

Not one local politician has offered any support to BPD in recent weeks

People are getting very fed up with the pandering and no one willing to call out wrongdoing

Almost like something a Black Lives Matter spokesperson would say.

Agreed.....EVERYONE SHOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS

But they're not, especially those meant to protect and serve and that's the problem.

Correct. It makes one wonder, what was that cop in Minnesota thinking?

He either felt it was totally okay to do what he did ( in which case serious questions need to be asked as to what type of psychos they're hiring)

Or he knew what he was doing was wrong but thought he'd get away with it (and now serious questions should be asked as to what types of policies and procedures will be in place)

Having lived here for 30+ years I have had minimal to almost zero interactions with the police. Any minor interactions have all been positive. I'm sure people of color would have a polar opposite view

Entire swarths of big cities like Chicago, Baltimore, Philly are virtual no go areas and it's almost impossible to police these neighborhoods. I knew a guy who was in the Chicago Housing Authority police......going around the housing projects executing warrants and providing back up during evictions for troublesome tenants. The stories he'd tell you would put your hair standing on end.

Maybe it's time to aggressively hire from the minority communities to police their own neighborhoods instead of it being a job for the white working and middle classEs

johnnycool

Quote from: whitey on June 25, 2020, 10:53:33 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on June 25, 2020, 09:32:32 AM
Quote from: whitey on June 25, 2020, 01:01:03 AM
Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on June 25, 2020, 12:57:50 AM
Quote from: whitey on June 25, 2020, 12:50:33 AM
Quote from: J70 on June 25, 2020, 12:45:55 AM
Get out in front of what, exactly?

A mob attacking the police who are trying to protect their neighborhood from a armed felon who are responding to a call

Not one local politician has offered any support to BPD in recent weeks

People are getting very fed up with the pandering and no one willing to call out wrongdoing

Almost like something a Black Lives Matter spokesperson would say.

Agreed.....EVERYONE SHOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS

But they're not, especially those meant to protect and serve and that's the problem.

Correct. It makes one wonder, what was that cop in Minnesota thinking?

He either felt it was totally okay to do what he did ( in which case serious questions need to be asked as to what type of psychos they're hiring)

Or he knew what he was doing was wrong but thought he'd get away with it (and now serious questions should be asked as to what types of policies and procedures will be in place)

Having lived here for 30+ years I have had minimal to almost zero interactions with the police. Any minor interactions have all been positive. I'm sure people of color would have a polar opposite view

Entire swarths of big cities like Chicago, Baltimore, Philly are virtual no go areas and it's almost impossible to police these neighborhoods. I knew a guy who was in the Chicago Housing Authority police......going around the housing projects executing warrants and providing back up during evictions for troublesome tenants. The stories he'd tell you would put your hair standing on end.

Maybe it's time to aggressively hire from the minority communities to police their own neighborhoods instead of it being a job for the white working and middle classEs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEMIUy_ySA4


RadioGAAGAA

Quote from: whitey on June 25, 2020, 10:53:33 AMCorrect. It makes one wonder, what was that cop in Minnesota thinking?

He either felt it was totally okay to do what he did ( in which case serious questions need to be asked as to what type of psychos they're hiring)

Or he knew what he was doing was wrong but thought he'd get away with it (and now serious questions should be asked as to what types of policies and procedures will be in place)

Having lived here for 30+ years I have had minimal to almost zero interactions with the police. Any minor interactions have all been positive. I'm sure people of color would have a polar opposite view

Entire swarths of big cities like Chicago, Baltimore, Philly are virtual no go areas and it's almost impossible to police these neighborhoods. I knew a guy who was in the Chicago Housing Authority police......going around the housing projects executing warrants and providing back up during evictions for troublesome tenants. The stories he'd tell you would put your hair standing on end.

Maybe it's time to aggressively hire from the minority communities to police their own neighborhoods instead of it being a job for the white working and middle classEs

Fair play to ye Whitey, that's not far off the mark at all.
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johnnycool

Quote from: RadioGAAGAA on June 25, 2020, 12:30:04 PM
Quote from: whitey on June 25, 2020, 10:53:33 AMCorrect. It makes one wonder, what was that cop in Minnesota thinking?

He either felt it was totally okay to do what he did ( in which case serious questions need to be asked as to what type of psychos they're hiring)

Or he knew what he was doing was wrong but thought he'd get away with it (and now serious questions should be asked as to what types of policies and procedures will be in place)

Having lived here for 30+ years I have had minimal to almost zero interactions with the police. Any minor interactions have all been positive. I'm sure people of color would have a polar opposite view

Entire swarths of big cities like Chicago, Baltimore, Philly are virtual no go areas and it's almost impossible to police these neighborhoods. I knew a guy who was in the Chicago Housing Authority police......going around the housing projects executing warrants and providing back up during evictions for troublesome tenants. The stories he'd tell you would put your hair standing on end.

Maybe it's time to aggressively hire from the minority communities to police their own neighborhoods instead of it being a job for the white working and middle classEs

Fair play to ye Whitey, that's not far off the mark at all.

The thing with your man with the knee on the neck of George Floyd he was actually going to get away with it scot free (and might still do) until the backlash occurred.
Image how many similar incidents happen and aren't videoed.



J70

Quote from: johnnycool on June 25, 2020, 01:45:07 PM
Quote from: RadioGAAGAA on June 25, 2020, 12:30:04 PM
Quote from: whitey on June 25, 2020, 10:53:33 AMCorrect. It makes one wonder, what was that cop in Minnesota thinking?

He either felt it was totally okay to do what he did ( in which case serious questions need to be asked as to what type of psychos they're hiring)

Or he knew what he was doing was wrong but thought he'd get away with it (and now serious questions should be asked as to what types of policies and procedures will be in place)

Having lived here for 30+ years I have had minimal to almost zero interactions with the police. Any minor interactions have all been positive. I'm sure people of color would have a polar opposite view

Entire swarths of big cities like Chicago, Baltimore, Philly are virtual no go areas and it's almost impossible to police these neighborhoods. I knew a guy who was in the Chicago Housing Authority police......going around the housing projects executing warrants and providing back up during evictions for troublesome tenants. The stories he'd tell you would put your hair standing on end.

Maybe it's time to aggressively hire from the minority communities to police their own neighborhoods instead of it being a job for the white working and middle classEs

Fair play to ye Whitey, that's not far off the mark at all.

The thing with your man with the knee on the neck of George Floyd he was actually going to get away with it scot free (and might still do) until the backlash occurred.
Image how many similar incidents happen and aren't videoed.

At least cops and Karens now know that they might get filmed.

Imagine what it was like in the past! There's a reason so many minority communities have such a toxic relationship with their local police and justice systems.

Will Smith said "Racism is not getting worse; it's getting filmed".


Gmac

Quote from: J70 on June 25, 2020, 01:53:51 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on June 25, 2020, 01:45:07 PM
Quote from: RadioGAAGAA on June 25, 2020, 12:30:04 PM
Quote from: whitey on June 25, 2020, 10:53:33 AMCorrect. It makes one wonder, what was that cop in Minnesota thinking?

He either felt it was totally okay to do what he did ( in which case serious questions need to be asked as to what type of psychos they're hiring)

Or he knew what he was doing was wrong but thought he'd get away with it (and now serious questions should be asked as to what types of policies and procedures will be in place)

Having lived here for 30+ years I have had minimal to almost zero interactions with the police. Any minor interactions have all been positive. I'm sure people of color would have a polar opposite view

Entire swarths of big cities like Chicago, Baltimore, Philly are virtual no go areas and it's almost impossible to police these neighborhoods. I knew a guy who was in the Chicago Housing Authority police......going around the housing projects executing warrants and providing back up during evictions for troublesome tenants. The stories he'd tell you would put your hair standing on end.

Maybe it's time to aggressively hire from the minority communities to police their own neighborhoods instead of it being a job for the white working and middle classEs

Fair play to ye Whitey, that's not far off the mark at all.

The thing with your man with the knee on the neck of George Floyd he was actually going to get away with it scot free (and might still do) until the backlash occurred.
Image how many similar incidents happen and aren't videoed.

At least cops and Karens now know that they might get filmed.

Imagine what it was like in the past! There's a reason so many minority communities have such a toxic relationship with their local police and justice systems.

Will Smith said "Racism is not getting worse; it's getting filmed".
what other minorities have as bad a relationship with police as the black community.

Gabriel_Hurl