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Lorcan Molloy the Dublin u21 keeper will be no 2 to Cluxton. He is fine kicker of dead ball. Not as good as Cluxton obviously but still very good. Currie isn't even no 3 as Savage from Vincent's is also ahead of Him.

As for Dublin forwards last Sun none of the following started / were available - Paul Flynn, Diarmuid Connolly, Alan Brogan, Paddy Andrews, Paul Mannion. Will be different team when those guys come back as most are first choice. MDMA, James McCarthy, Ger Brennan, Cian OSuulivan and Kevin OBrien also close to returning. All should be back playing before end of league plus 1/2 more from u 21s hopefully.

Paul Mannion isn't coming back.

He is due back in Apr/May and is expected to rejoin the panel. Whether that's too late to feature in championship remains to be seen!

Very impressive performance by Kerry backs especially when you consider the oldest of Kerry's starting 6 backs was only 24. The 2nd half was particularly impressive, conceding 4  scores with the goal extremely fortuitous, this without probably the two best of their young backs in Crowley and Murphy, along with the oldies O'Mahony and Ó Sé. Never mind the forwards missing the player of the year and the player of the millennium.

I'd say a large factor in the 2nd half was down to how much on top Kerry were at midfield - very little ball even went into the Kerry half of the pitch in the 2nd half. I'd say the Kerry backs had way more to do in the first half in terms of defending compared to the 2nd half. I think that the 6 that starters in defence are still fairly inexperienced, odd as that might seem to be - I'd say the number of championship games they have started between them as a unit is fairly small. I do think the competition for places in the backs is a lot less than in the forwards for Kerry. Really think the squad depth there is only middling. I really can't see O'Mahoney maintaining the same sort of form as he had last year and I thought Marc O'Se looked a fair bit off his best and I had expected him to retire. I think it will be interesting to see how he fares this year as I did know someone who broke a cocyx once and it can be a nightmare of a thing to get right. A couple of injuries and I could see the Kerry defence looking very very ordinary.

Currie's kickout going to mush must have sent shivers down Gavin's spine I'd imagine, given how the game-plan went to pot and the gap in quality between Currie and Cluxton, I think an injury to Cluxton would easily be the biggest blow to Dublin's chances.

I think refs seem far more willing to black card keepers, especially as regards drag-downs in the square so I could easily see a situation where that could cause Cluxton to get the line. In the longer-term you wonder how many more years Cluxton has left given he's 34 next birthday which even for a keeper is getting up there.

Also there has been little talk of how off form the Dublin attack were -[been a while since they only scored 1-10 in a game] I think that they are unlikely to be in such poor form next weekend especially on their home patch and wouldn't be surprised if they put a bit of a beating on Tyrone.

Lorcan Molloy the Dublin u21 keeper will be no 2 to Cluxton. He is fine kicker of dead ball. Not as good as Cluxton obviously but still very good. Currie isn't even no 3 as Savage from Vincent's is also ahead of Him.

As for Dublin forwards last Sun none of the following started / were available - Paul Flynn, Diarmuid Connolly, Alan Brogan, Paddy Andrews, Paul Mannion. Will be different team when those guys come back as most are first choice. MDMA, James McCarthy, Ger Brennan, Cian OSuulivan and Kevin OBrien also close to returning. All should be back playing before end of league plus 1/2 more from u 21s hopefully.

League table after the first two rounds, not looking great for Derry


Pos. Team P W D L F A Pts.
1 Cork 2 2 0 0 3-29 1-32 4
2 Monaghan 2 1 0 1 2-29 2-23 2
3 Donegal 2 1 0 1 1-26 2-22 2
4 Kerry 2 1 0 1 1-27 2-24 2
5 Tyrone 2 1 0 1 1-20 2-20 2
6 Dublin 2 1 0 1 2-26 1-26 2
7 Mayo 2 1 0 1 3-18 1-21 2
8 Derry 2 0 0 2 0-25 2-32 0

If you're going to bother posting table the least you could do is post accurate version. The lads in the GAA have gone all modern and now use stuff like points difference to decide table positions. Have a go and see if you can figure it out???

Seeing as how someone mentioned South Kerry, I was at an U10 blitz down there this summer, and I thought they had a brilliant rule. They give 1 point for a 'goal' and 3 points for a 'point'. It really was evident how the young lads and ladies were trying to kick points from 20 metres out, instead of running it in for goals.

That's standard rule everywhere for all Go Games matches from u10s up.

Its just pointless arguing over and over on an internet forum, you are just never going to admit to an ounce of unfairness .its very common in Irish society to get away with a lie whilst both parties know fine well its a lie from political rouges to our  practices in the GAA from paying coaches to what we are talking about.


Sometimes i feel i should just join the liars and life would of been a lot simpler .

You are a doom & gloom merchant. Always spouting negative overstated shite re your own county and at every opportunity re Dublin. Like most of the Dub haters on this sad excuse for a forum you spout lies, half truths and baseless gossip as a means of making your points.

Dublin have once in a generation team with special players who won't be replaced with the same same quality when they finish. We play open super, skillful football with positive, sporting attitude. I for one am enjoying every minute and will do for as long as it lasts. If we don't win All Ireland this year I will still be v proud of this bunch of sportmens. Now with that you and your ilk can piss off back into the hovels you inhabit.

Thats rich coming from an armagh man, sure one of yours nearly bankrupted the bloody kildare horde recently ..............................dont worry you can cheer for monaghan on saturday after your lot are bet

Indeed other counties without the largesse shown to Dublin may come under financial pressure from running their teams.
The Dub "GAA fans"  won't be cheering for anyone in our game, they'll only arrive 5 minutes into the second game.

As ever youre talking thru your hole! You spout some amount of anti Dublin drivel.

Burke should get a long ban, vicious digs to the head of another human being then a fish Hook, Galvin got 8 weeks, with digs and fish hook that's 8 months. Fair play to O Gara for not reacting to thuggery from Meath when the game was nearly over they had to resort to violence.

What's up with Dublin players biting opponents? They get meals cooked and readied for them everyday, surely they shouldn't still be hungry.

Wow they eat cooked food, I thought they were Robots.

Meath & ODowd are an embarrassment to themselves. ODowd should have kept his trap shut until he'd got the facts about what happened. Burke is simply a coward who doesn't obviously have the sense or the brains to cop that he was responsible for what happened.

Don't Matter youre just a fcukn arsehole!  Then again that's not exactly breaking news!

Parnells are an absolutely disgrace to themselves and to Dublin GAA. They have won sod all in football since pursuing this policy. In fact they have barely registered a championship win of note despite all their mercenaries and the money spent. They now struggle to field underage teams as kids in the area go to other clubs or don't bother playing gaa at all.

Ultimately you reap what you sow. The committee in Parnells continue to disgrace themselves and have torn the soul out of what could have been a great gaa club within Dublin.

Other Dublin clubs have outsiders playing which is an issue in itself but nobody has ripped the piss out of the rules as Parnells have done. The Dublin county board should have stepped in to stop this carry on a long time ago. The fact that they haven't raises its own questions 

Once the money runs out Parnells risk disappearing altogether. That mightn't be too far off in fact as stories have started to surface re the goings on at the club. If they do disappear nobody in Dublin gaa will shed a tear.

The Dubs are getting hysterical. They know the games up. They know the only reason they have had huge success in the recent past is because of money. Unprecedented underage success in both codes followed on by massive improvements in their senior teams.
That's what millions upon millions of euro does for you. Buying titles in an amateur sport, it's sad that the Dubs had to stoop that low given the advantages they already had. Now that they have though, what other option is left but to split them?
We can hardly let them continue on buying their players cars, paying World and Olympic champion boxers to hang out with them, paying for huge backroom staff in both codes, paying for the best coaches and trainers for all age groups etc etc while the rest of the country are living on scraps.
Can any of the Dubs tell me what fun is there in winning titles when you haven't done it fairly? Would it not be more satisfying to win with honour? Lets just end the farce, let every team compete on an equal footing.

i for one take great enjoyment watching Dublin win in a fairly mesmerically brilliant manner!

I do too. I do also enjoy the time in between our matches listening to all this jealous, small minded, anti Dublin horseshit! The more we win and the better we play the more enjoyable it is in perverse way as fcukwits such as Don't Matter spend even more of their miserable lives spouting nonsensical drivel about the super Dubs! 

Even just two days ago enjoyed very much watching our hurlers make their way emphatically to another Leinster final. In fact I just enjoy being a Dub these days! Happy days!

Up de Dubs!! 

up until recently I didn't consider croker being a massive benefit to Dublin.
But as they get better this will be a slight advantage though partially not their fault as leinster counties vote to allow this to happen.
Not sure if all home league games were in croker , used to be in parnel pk, but again the opposition would prob want to play in croke park for their own familiarisation!

the only way we can get around this is to build new provincial stadia to play all provincial championship matches - like the aussie rules have - if I am right, they play in shared stadia - the big ones around Australia?
To be honest, its not a runner either.
If the GAA are to spend money, its money for smaller stand covered artificial grass pitches  in each county so that club and underage games can be played in winter.

The issue here is that Dublin is the capital. its where the biggest population s, its where most if not all the work is. Its a small enough county geographically so easier distances to commute- and even with traffic jams, there are trains, luas and busses to help!
GAA loving businessmen will give work to young GAA stars, because there is work.
All this is much easier than any county outside of Dublin.

Maybe Dublin have hit a patch of great players and this wont turn into domination.
if however it does, it wont be a case of 'the dubs wont allow a split' - the rest of the 31 counties will vote for it.
there wont be a combination of meath/Westmeath, Kildare/Wicklow etc - that would fly in the face of the GAA, there wont be amalagmations at intercounty level - so the only obvious way to go will be to divide Dublin into 2 or 3.
There is enough of a population and GAA clubs in Dublin to do this - and I emphasise - SHOULD the need arise.

The precedent has already been set with Fingal doing quite well in the hurling competitions already.

but there is too much hysteria about this right now. Some guys should learn to take their beating (though some of us are used to this in annual championship seasons anyway!!).

a lot of hypocricy here about professional Dublin players when it has been the country boys (me being one of them- though I refused the offers) who have been paid to play in Dublin clubs from 20 years ago up until now (cough parnells cough) while home grown players got nothing!

I think the Dubs can be beaten. If McCauley gets inj, Dub are like tryone at midfield ...weak enough!!
but its great to beat them on the field of play. always was!!

So you're basis for splitting Dublin is domination of the game. Ah right! So with that logic Kilkenny will be split into 3/4 teams, Kerry into 2/3. Mayo have dominated Connacht so they might be in this bracket too. Going forward Cork have more clubs than Dublin so they should probably be split too before they start dominating or maybe because they were dominant before and we don't want dominant teams it appears.

FFS what a load of bollox! What would happen if two of the split teams ended up against each other in the final. Split them into 6/8 teams??

You're a funny man among many funny people on this site! 

Johnnybegood, do you know how often they are training per week?
Do you know anything about the cars & the food or is it all hush hush

I think it's interesting that the two young lads who went to Australia didn't stay too long. I wonder were they made an offer they couldn't refuse whereas like Jim McGuinness said in Donegal there's no work or much money about so if you're a good player you're outta there. Either gone to soccer or Aussie Rules.

Do any of ye NON Dubs know many in the Dublin squad at the moment?

You're either taking the piss or a complete WUM. Why anyone from Dublin would entertain or try and debate this rubbish with you is beyond me.

That's fair enough , don't understand why this buck would tell me such blatant lies though. The car park story was so detailed too.

Maybe you're just a gobsh*te for believing it??

That wasn't a come back. That was just saying where you stand in relation to Dublin football.

And good luck to you winning fcuk all for ever and ever!

Enjoy our successes even more when coming across your usual drivel.

Not sure about your extrapolation of 6/7 points advantage Dinny, but I certainly agree that familiarity breeds comfort, comfort breeds confidence and confidence breeds performance. I was nearly killed for saying this before, but playing all your championship games in Croke Park for several years, and now half your league games or more, has got to give new Dub players a sense of confidence and comfort. Routine is huge for many players, and having a set routine for every big game you play has to be an advantage.

Having said that, I'm sure the Dubs would be happy to play down the country in the early rounds of the championship, and it's not the reason why they are winning all round them at the moment, but it is a help and anyone who denies that is being deliberately contrarian, or is burying their head in the sand.

Not sure of that myself just picked it out of the sky to exaggerate a point, we can look at the reasons why home advantage is such but it can't be denied that much I know.

I don't blame Dublin and no it's only a factor in many and why would they give up a competitive advantage they have a county board with a spine and are doing best for Dublin GAA.

Has anyone even remotely connected to Dublin asked that we play our leinster championship games in Croke Park? These games are there simply to generate income for the leinster council.  Will happily travel to any ground in leinster to play. And if we do and whack whoever it is we will be playing what will be the gripe at that point? Jealousy is a sh1t characteristic displayed by many small minded people on this site.

We are winning at the minute because we just happen to have the best team and players. In my time watching football this is probably the best Dublin team we have ever had. And as Kerry and Kilkenny have shown the best teams usually win. So for those with their anti Dublin agendas and hatred build a fcukn bridge and get over it!!

I hope you're not aiming that 'jealousy' barb at me Hill, because that's not my point at all. I've said that Dublin would beat all around them, regardless, and it's not as if Offaly are within 3 points and getting ye in Tullamore would swing it our way! I just think it's absolutely crazy to deny that an advantage exists for the Dubs in playing in Croke Park.

I've also said, by the way, that I'm sure Dublin would relish visiting other grounds. I remember them playing in Tullamore, Mullingar and Portlaoise, and it was a great occasion. Playing in the early rounds in Croke Park is a waste of time, and the attendances are not sell outs by any means.

No wasn't aimed at you. My initial point was response to your post. The rest of it aimed at the anti Dublin sh1te that pervades this site

Not sure about your extrapolation of 6/7 points advantage Dinny, but I certainly agree that familiarity breeds comfort, comfort breeds confidence and confidence breeds performance. I was nearly killed for saying this before, but playing all your championship games in Croke Park for several years, and now half your league games or more, has got to give new Dub players a sense of confidence and comfort. Routine is huge for many players, and having a set routine for every big game you play has to be an advantage.

Having said that, I'm sure the Dubs would be happy to play down the country in the early rounds of the championship, and it's not the reason why they are winning all round them at the moment, but it is a help and anyone who denies that is being deliberately contrarian, or is burying their head in the sand.

Not sure of that myself just picked it out of the sky to exaggerate a point, we can look at the reasons why home advantage is such but it can't be denied that much I know.

I don't blame Dublin and no it's only a factor in many and why would they give up a competitive advantage they have a county board with a spine and are doing best for Dublin GAA.

Has anyone even remotely connected to Dublin asked that we play our leinster championship games in Croke Park? These games are there simply to generate income for the leinster council.  Will happily travel to any ground in leinster to play. And if we do and whack whoever it is we will be playing what will be the gripe at that point? Jealousy is a sh1t characteristic displayed by many small minded people on this site.

We are winning at the minute because we just happen to have the best team and players. In my time watching football this is probably the best Dublin team we have ever had. And as Kerry and Kilkenny have shown the best teams usually win. So for those with their anti Dublin agendas and hatred build a fcukn bridge and get over it!!