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GAA Discussion => GAA Discussion => Topic started by: tonto1888 on June 13, 2022, 03:07:13 PM
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May as well get it started.
An intriguing draw. Both teams will fancy their chances without being over confident I would say.
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There is no real form guide as these 2 sides haven't played each other much recently. From an Armagh viewpoint it is a real opportunity and I providing they play without any fear again I give them a good chance of getting through the tie. Galway will be thinking the same but I also think they'd have preferred to avoid Armagh in the draw. I'd imagine Forker will get the job of tracking Walsh as he always seems to get the oppositions main forward. Morgan who is having a great season will probably pick up Comer. I think this could be quite an open match as neither side is really suited to playing defensive catenaccio style football. Should be a great weekend of football at HQ.
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Looking forward to the match. Both sides fairly evenly matched it seems. Probably an open game. Should be one for the purists and neutrals to enjoy.
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Sunday 26th June, 1:45PM, Croke Park ... early start.
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Sunday 26th June, 1:45PM, Croke Park ... early start.
At least the 2 Ulster teams are playing on separate days so the traffic situation won't be as bad. I would have thought that Armagh v Galway was a more evenly matched game than Kerry v Mayo so I'm a bit surprised that we are the curtain raiser.
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Armagh have a poor record coming out of the Cusack Stand dressing rooms........
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There is no real form guide as these 2 sides haven't played each other much recently. From an Armagh viewpoint it is a real opportunity and I providing they play without any fear again I give them a good chance of getting through the tie. Galway will be thinking the same but I also think they'd have preferred to avoid Armagh in the draw. I'd imagine Forker will get the job of tracking Walsh as he always seems to get the oppositions main forward. Morgan who is having a great season will probably pick up Comer. I think this could be quite an open match as neither side is really suited to playing defensive catenaccio style football. Should be a great weekend of football at HQ.
Might not be suited to them but it's very much the style Galway have used in this years championship.
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While Armagh got the team from the pot they wanted, we would have much preferred Clare or Cork from this morning let's be honest about it. That's no slight against them, the four week break is a big factor for the provincial champions when facing into a team coming off a win two weeks out and either of the Munster teams would have been a much more winnable game. Not to say that Galway would win of course, I've seen enough capitulations including Tipp in 2016 to know nothing can be ruled out. Armagh it is and one thing is for sure, complacency is not a problem on Joyce's desk since this morning's draw given how Mayo and Roscommon have fared since Galway played them, Armagh certainly look to have the better recent body of work going into this match.
From the initial reactions since this morning I'd expect that while it's evens in the bookies currently Armagh will likely move into slight favourites for the match as the next couple of weeks progresses, they seem to be the tip for a lot of folk, I think I even saw the phrase "no chance" associated with Galway on this forum. That won't mean much for either set of players at the end of the day. A far bigger factor will difference in the support levels, the Armagh bandwagon seems to be rolling again and Galway will be outnumbered as usual but maybe to an even greater extent this time around. Would be great to see a few of the fair weather fans come out of the woodwork for this provided they will go to shout on the team.
A big game for the Galway, we have a miserable record in Croke Park and Armagh are the toughest team from the draw today to get over that hump and into a semi-final, I wouldn't be of the view that we have no chance either though once we show up, need to put in a big championship performance above what we've seen to date in Connacht and see where that gets us.
The stakes are very high now, Derry, Clare, Armagh and ourselves all know that this is a golden opportunity to get to an All Ireland final, a heavy favourite will be waiting there in opposition but sure anything can happen on the day. The older Galway players like Walsh, Comer and Conroy will not get a better chance at a ticket to the big dance, the teams who have been there year in and year out are all on the other side of the draw.
Armagh are a formidable team but they haven't been within an asses roar of the final no more than ourselves either, this is an absolutely massive match and whoever gets the win will be in great shape for the semi-final. To quote Ger Lock, "real men wanted now".
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I think it depends on what game each team brings to the match. Galway had work to do after the Connacht Final. How much extra have Armagh got ?
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Great opportunity for both teams, really is a 50/50 game. Thought we showed great maturity yesterday at 0.9 to 1.2 I thought it was on the verge of slipping away from us but it didn't. Still wouldn't like to see Galway getting an early jump on us tho.
What about the Armagh injuries? 5 potential starters sidelined, 3 longish term. I assume Mackin #2 should be fine, Oisin O'Neill?
Armagh have nearly stumbled into our current configuration from MF forward because of some of our injuries, it's highly unlikely to be changed for Galway but it is a 20 man game these days anyway. Like I would have considered Turbitt a shoe in championship starter and he's not getting much game time, but still scoring well when introduced. Always feel Ross McQuillan has something to offer but he's seeing less still.
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Very interesting game in prospect. As AFA said - I think we all wanted Clare or Cork simply because neither are as good as Armagh.
Armagh have momentum built up now which is a big advantage to them.
Galway are capable of winning this but will need to bring their A game to do so.
Looking forward to it
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Psychology might play a role. Armagh are a momentum team but if they are shut down how will they respond ? How good is Geezer at in-match decision making ?
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It really is a 50/50 game no matter what anyone else says. Galway and Armagh are so evenly matched and it will be difficult to predict the winners. Armagh have a bit of momentum which will help but Galway are a settled team and have big players in the right positions. Should be a good game with a big score line by both teams, there are really good pairings to select of who will pick up who. Armagh have a few injuries as someone stated but for me all that does is create an opportunity for someone else. I was at the last game in 2001 where Galway broke our hearts with a 1pt win, think it was like 10 - 09 or something like that. I know it was low scoring game in the qualifiers that Galway went on to win the All Ireland.
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It really is a 50/50 game no matter what anyone else says. Galway and Armagh are so evenly matched and it will be difficult to predict the winners. Armagh have a bit of momentum which will help but Galway are a settled team and have big players in the right positions. Should be a good game with a big score line by both teams, there are really good pairings to select of who will pick up who. Armagh have a few injuries as someone stated but for me all that does is create an opportunity for someone else. I was at the last game in 2001 where Galway broke our hearts with a 1pt win, think it was like 10 - 09 or something like that. I know it was low scoring game in the qualifiers that Galway went on to win the All Ireland.
Armagh were one of the best teams Galway played that year, as the following year showed
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It may well end up being determined by the quality of the substitutions.
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Does anyone know how ticketmaster operate this?
Should I take the shitty tickets that are on offer now. Or are more sections still to be opened up?
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Does anyone know how ticketmaster operate this?
Should I take the shitty tickets that are on offer now. Or are more sections still to be opened up?
Good question, I tried buying this morning and kept getting crap seats in Davin or corners of Hogan/Cusack… herself went on 15 mins later and got slap bang in the middle of the Hogan.
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Does anyone know how ticketmaster operate this?
Should I take the shitty tickets that are on offer now. Or are more sections still to be opened up?
Good question, I tried buying this morning and kept getting crap seats in Davin or corners of Hogan/Cusack… herself went on 15 mins later and got slap bang in the middle of the Hogan.
Same happened to me although I got upper hogan, middle of the field.
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My suspicion is that there are still better sections still to be released but I don't really know
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It may well end up being determined by the quality of the substitutions.
We’re fairly strong in that department even with current injuries and hopefully we get a couple back.
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I've tickets for up in the rafters. But I'm happy with that, as I don't particularly want to sit with the great unwashed, proletariate and riff-raff thank you very much :-)
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Like on the Airbus 380, one should be seated on the upper deck.
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Derry look to be the business, a proper team. Not buying that Armagh are the real deal. They seem more of a rabble with Rian O'Neill as the one stand out who would start for any county.
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Does anyone know how ticketmaster operate this?
Should I take the shitty tickets that are on offer now. Or are more sections still to be opened up?
Good question, I tried buying this morning and kept getting crap seats in Davin or corners of Hogan/Cusack… herself went on 15 mins later and got slap bang in the middle of the Hogan.
Same happened to me although I got upper hogan, middle of the field.
We’ll be close by, meant to say upper tier (which I don’t mind at all)
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Like on the Airbus 380, one should be seated on the upper deck.
For safety reasons one should always sit at the back of an aeroplane.
Has an aeroplane ever reversed into a mountain?
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An interesting point by ex Sligo footballer Neil Ewing
If this years championship was knockout like 2020 and 2021 the perception would be that Donegal are a better team than Armagh and serious questions on where Armagh are going. After Sunday the reverse is the perception. So, which is true? Or, do people read too much into one off games?
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Derry look to be the business, a proper team. Not buying that Armagh are the real deal. They seem more of a rabble with Rian O'Neill as the one stand out who would start for any county.
Totally agree
Armagh to be beaten out the gate
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I think Armagh are in a great place and could reach the final.
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Derry look to be the business, a proper team. Not buying that Armagh are the real deal. They seem more of a rabble with Rian O'Neill as the one stand out who would start for any county.
Yes this game is Galway's to lose.
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Derry look to be the business, a proper team. Not buying that Armagh are the real deal. They seem more of a rabble with Rian O'Neill as the one stand out who would start for any county.
I agree. No one else any use.
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Like on the Airbus 380, one should be seated on the upper deck.
For safety reasons one should always sit at the back of an aeroplane.
Has an aeroplane ever reversed into a mountain?
Q. How do you know that you're on a plane full of Derry men?
A. When the engines are switched off you can still hear the whining :-)
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Derry look to be the business, a proper team. Not buying that Armagh are the real deal. They seem more of a rabble with Rian O'Neill as the one stand out who would start for any county.
You're probably right as usual.
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Wheres yer man Armagh4samagain these days.
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What's the story regarding injuries...Who is injured for what team?. I know Armagh have a few injuries (long term) how's Galway's bill of health?.
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I'll just leave this here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FhlNKcyNCI
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Either team could take this. Armagh answered a lot of critics in their last two matches and if they continue with that form they’ll be hard to stop. While Galway are well rested, I would question whether that is much of an advantage. Armagh have been training like demons all year so you’d expect they bring that same intensity to Croke Park. I see Jamie Clarke is back on home soil, any chance of a late call up?!
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Either team could take this. Armagh answered a lot of critics in their last two matches and if they continue with that form they’ll be hard to stop. While Galway are well rested, I would question whether that is much of an advantage. Armagh have been training like demons all year so you’d expect they bring that same intensity to Croke Park. I see Jamie Clarke is back on home soil, any chance of a late call up?!
Only if mcgeeney wants to hit the self destruct button.
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Either team could take this. Armagh answered a lot of critics in their last two matches and if they continue with that form they’ll be hard to stop. While Galway are well rested, I would question whether that is much of an advantage. Armagh have been training like demons all year so you’d expect they bring that same intensity to Croke Park. I see Jamie Clarke is back on home soil, any chance of a late call up?!
His time has gone I would say
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Either team could take this. Armagh answered a lot of critics in their last two matches and if they continue with that form they’ll be hard to stop. While Galway are well rested, I would question whether that is much of an advantage. Armagh have been training like demons all year so you’d expect they bring that same intensity to Croke Park. I see Jamie Clarke is back on home soil, any chance of a late call up?!
No, it's not as if Armagh are short on forward talent. The benefit, nor the need, does not outweigh the disruption it could potentially cause to the team ... it ain't broken at the minute so leave well enough alone.
I see David Coldrick appointed as ref, hopefully he will let it flow just as he did in Armagh v Tyrone game.
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I’d say the door is open for Clarke for next year-but not at this stage of the year. Not sure if he would suit our system as he doesn’t work as hard as Rian, Nugent, Duffy etc.
We all know his quality though and I for one would like to see him back.
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I’d say the door is open for Clarke for next year-but not at this stage of the year. Not sure if he would suit our system as he doesn’t work as hard as Rian, Nugent, Duffy etc.
We all know his quality though and I for one would like to see him back.
Must be around 33 now? I'd say his county days are done.
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Agree wholeheartedly with balladmaker. His inclusion would likely cause more disruption than benefit. Jamie’s had loads to chances to perform for the county, but he always seems to have different priorities. The team is firing on all cylinders now. Don’t mess with it.
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Would ye quit with the whole Jamie thing! The lad hasn’t played club football never mind county football for a few years, I’d say wouldn’t have been keeping himself in any major condition (he is just not that soldier!). The lad is playing a bit of club football, not ripping it up yet, he won’t play county again.
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Looks like it's a full house for next Sunday's double header. I'd expect a large travelling support from both Armagh and Mayo ... what is Galway's representation likely to be?
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Looks like it's a full house for next Sunday's double header. I'd expect a large travelling support from both Armagh and Mayo ... what is Galway's representation likely to be?
Not great going by previous form.
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Looks like it's a full house for next Sunday's double header. I'd expect a large travelling support from both Armagh and Mayo ... what is Galway's representation likely to be?
Yeah read that last night...Bar Kerry the other three teams involved would bring a decent crowd with them and throw in the neutrals/season ticket holders etc. So glad it's full too as Croke can be really poor atmosphere when half empty/full. Great buzz around Armagh atm for the game...my biggest concern is a lot of the folk have Armagh in a final before a quarter final ball has been kicked and I for one have followed Armagh and been around football long enough to know it'll bite you in the ass. As long as the players don't believe this hype and concentrate on Galway which i'm sure KMcG will have them focusing solely on...
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Would ye quit with the whole Jamie thing! The lad hasn’t played club football never mind county football for a few years, I’d say wouldn’t have been keeping himself in any major condition (he is just not that soldier!). The lad is playing a bit of club football, not ripping it up yet, he won’t play county again.
Well, that's that nipped in the bud. Can't believe someone brought it up in the first place.
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Looks like it's a full house for next Sunday's double header. I'd expect a large travelling support from both Armagh and Mayo ... what is Galway's representation likely to be?
Yeah read that last night...Bar Kerry the other three teams involved would bring a decent crowd with them and throw in the neutrals/season ticket holders etc. So glad it's full too as Croke can be really poor atmosphere when half empty/full. Great buzz around Armagh atm for the game...my biggest concern is a lot of the folk have Armagh in a final before a quarter final ball has been kicked and I for one have followed Armagh and been around football long enough to know it'll bite you in the ass. As long as the players don't believe this hype and concentrate on Galway which i'm sure KMcG will have them focusing solely on...
I'd say management will have them well grounded. It's all about the next performance, just go for it, empty the tank and see where it ends up.
Galway/Derry equally dreaming of an All Ireland appearance I'd say. I expect Clare to give Derry a game on Saturday as well.
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Looks like it's a full house for next Sunday's double header. I'd expect a large travelling support from both Armagh and Mayo ... what is Galway's representation likely to be?
Yeah read that last night...Bar Kerry the other three teams involved would bring a decent crowd with them and throw in the neutrals/season ticket holders etc. So glad it's full too as Croke can be really poor atmosphere when half empty/full. Great buzz around Armagh atm for the game...my biggest concern is a lot of the folk have Armagh in a final before a quarter final ball has been kicked and I for one have followed Armagh and been around football long enough to know it'll bite you in the ass. As long as the players don't believe this hype and concentrate on Galway which i'm sure KMcG will have them focusing solely on...
I'd say management will have them well grounded. It's all about the next performance, just go for it, empty the tank and see where it ends up.
Galway/Derry equally dreaming of an All Ireland appearance I'd say. I expect Clare to give Derry a game on Saturday as well.
Saturday games on sky only?
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Looks like it's a full house for next Sunday's double header. I'd expect a large travelling support from both Armagh and Mayo ... what is Galway's representation likely to be?
Galway followers wouldn't get that excited about a quarter final. I remember 1995 after we won Connacht after a sizeable gap, and the crowd in CP for the semi vs Tyrone was poor enough. I think it comes down to how good people feel the team is. It's a bit like US Justice Potter Stewart's 1964 test to identify hard core pornography "I know it when I see it".
However if we bate Armagh and then Derry , the perception would obviously change.
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Still some Hill tickets left but the rest of the ground has sold out on Ticketmaster. I'm very surprised as I thought there would be 50-60k but the finance & marketing lads in the GAA will be happy anyway. It could be the first CP full house in almost 3 years.
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Looks like it's a full house for next Sunday's double header. I'd expect a large travelling support from both Armagh and Mayo ... what is Galway's representation likely to be?
Galway followers wouldn't get that excited about a quarter final. I remember 1995 after we won Connacht after a sizeable gap, and the crowd in CP for the semi vs Tyrone was poor enough. I think it comes down to how good people feel the team is. It's a bit like US Justice Potter Stewart's 1964 test to identify hard core pornography "I know it when I see it".
However if we bate Armagh and then Derry , the perception would obviously change.
Surely Galway people feel you’s are well capable of beating ourselves and Derry/Clare if everything falls in to place? All 4 teams on our side of the draw will probably never get a better chance at making a final.
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Still some Hill tickets left but the rest of the ground has sold out on Ticketmaster. I'm very surprised as I thought there would be 50-60k but the finance & marketing lads in the GAA will be happy anyway. It could be the first CP full house in almost 3 years.
There should be plenty of tickets yet coming available. No way will this sell out, a-la an AI final.
Hard to know with Galway fans, as Seafoid refers to. With both Senior teams in CP within a week, it may 'split the vote'. However, the general feeling is that this Galway team is (finally) a bit better and balanced than it has been for a good number of years, thus the support should be on the larger side of things.
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Still some Hill tickets left but the rest of the ground has sold out on Ticketmaster. I'm very surprised as I thought there would be 50-60k but the finance & marketing lads in the GAA will be happy anyway. It could be the first CP full house in almost 3 years.
There should be plenty of tickets yet coming available. No way will this sell out, a-la an AI final.
Hard to know with Galway fans, as Seafoid refers to. With both Senior teams in CP within a week, it may 'split the vote'. However, the general feeling is that this Galway team is (finally) a bit better and balanced than it has been for a good number of years, thus the support should be on the larger side of things.
It’ll be close to a sell out though? Probably the best attended quarter final in long time.
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Still some Hill tickets left but the rest of the ground has sold out on Ticketmaster. I'm very surprised as I thought there would be 50-60k but the finance & marketing lads in the GAA will be happy anyway. It could be the first CP full house in almost 3 years.
There should be plenty of tickets yet coming available. No way will this sell out, a-la an AI final.
Hard to know with Galway fans, as Seafoid refers to. With both Senior teams in CP within a week, it may 'split the vote'. However, the general feeling is that this Galway team is (finally) a bit better and balanced than it has been for a good number of years, thus the support should be on the larger side of things.
Currently if you want a seated ticket you can't buy them though. So where or why would they become available between now and matchday? If they just wanted to create the illusion of a sell out in advance in order to trigger demand, then you would think that there would at least be one or two sections with seated tickets available to purchase.
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Still some Hill tickets left but the rest of the ground has sold out on Ticketmaster. I'm very surprised as I thought there would be 50-60k but the finance & marketing lads in the GAA will be happy anyway. It could be the first CP full house in almost 3 years.
There should be plenty of tickets yet coming available. No way will this sell out, a-la an AI final.
Hard to know with Galway fans, as Seafoid refers to. With both Senior teams in CP within a week, it may 'split the vote'. However, the general feeling is that this Galway team is (finally) a bit better and balanced than it has been for a good number of years, thus the support should be on the larger side of things.
Currently if you want a seated ticket you can't buy them though. So where or why would they become available between now and matchday? If they just wanted to create the illusion of a sell out in advance in order to trigger demand, then you would think that there would at least be one or two sections with seated tickets available to purchase.
Standard Ticketmaster (nightclub) tactic of holding back sales to create pent-up demand. Same as last Saturday's hurling quarter-finals, which backfired on them.
At a guess I'd say Galway bring an absolute max of 15k, Kerry struggle to 10K, Mayo < 20K, Armagh 22K tops?
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Still some Hill tickets left but the rest of the ground has sold out on Ticketmaster. I'm very surprised as I thought there would be 50-60k but the finance & marketing lads in the GAA will be happy anyway. It could be the first CP full house in almost 3 years.
There should be plenty of tickets yet coming available. No way will this sell out, a-la an AI final.
Hard to know with Galway fans, as Seafoid refers to. With both Senior teams in CP within a week, it may 'split the vote'. However, the general feeling is that this Galway team is (finally) a bit better and balanced than it has been for a good number of years, thus the support should be on the larger side of things.
Currently if you want a seated ticket you can't buy them though. So where or why would they become available between now and matchday? If they just wanted to create the illusion of a sell out in advance in order to trigger demand, then you would think that there would at least be one or two sections with seated tickets available to purchase.
Standard Ticketmaster (nightclub) tactic of holding back sales to create pent-up demand. Same as last Saturday's hurling quarter-finals, which backfired on them.
At a guess I'd say Galway bring an absolute max of 15k, Kerry struggle to 10K, Mayo < 20K, Armagh 22K tops?
You could well be right. Maybe they are just hoping that some people who would otherwise have bought seated tickets will now buy Hill 16 tickets before reopening some sections of the stands closer to Sundays match.
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Not sure of the current ticketing situation, did clubs get any at all that would be returns for later this week? I was under the impression that they didn't and all sales were via Ticketmaster, if they are holding back the good tickets or trying to fake demand the GAA need to step in and sort that out, ridiculous stuff.
Wouldn't be too worried about the hurlers impacting Galway attendance, no one from Galway was in Thurles last Saturday by all accounts, can't see too many casual fans travelling up to see a team in really mediocre form to play Limerick.
Galway will have a reasonable crowd at this, there was decent support (by usual Galway football standard anyway) at the Mayo match and the Connacht final, obviously nothing compared to Armagh who sound like they will have a huge crowd.
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Not sure of the current ticketing situation, did clubs get any at all that would be returns for later this week? I was under the impression that they didn't and all sales were via Ticketmaster, if they are holding back the good tickets or trying to fake demand the GAA need to step in and sort that out, ridiculous stuff.
Wouldn't be too worried about the hurlers impacting Galway attendance, no one from Galway was in Thurles last Saturday by all accounts, can't see too many casual fans travelling up to see a team in really mediocre form to play Limerick.
Galway will have a reasonable crowd at this, there was decent support (by usual Galway football standard anyway) at the Mayo match and the Connacht final, obviously nothing compared to Armagh who sound like they will have a huge crowd.
Won’t be a cow milked or cube of diesel washed all next week!
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I saw someone on the Orchard Fans forum complaining already about the price of hotels the night of the All Ireland final, ye will be spending a lot of money in Dublin over the next month.
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I saw someone on the Orchard Fans forum complaining already about the price of hotels the night of the All Ireland final, ye will be spending a lot of money in Dublin over the next month.
Yeah I’ve tickets for Garth Brooks going every night! ;) Cute hoorism has started!
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Still some Hill tickets left but the rest of the ground has sold out on Ticketmaster. I'm very surprised as I thought there would be 50-60k but the finance & marketing lads in the GAA will be happy anyway. It could be the first CP full house in almost 3 years.
There should be plenty of tickets yet coming available. No way will this sell out, a-la an AI final.
Hard to know with Galway fans, as Seafoid refers to. With both Senior teams in CP within a week, it may 'split the vote'. However, the general feeling is that this Galway team is (finally) a bit better and balanced than it has been for a good number of years, thus the support should be on the larger side of things.
Currently if you want a seated ticket you can't buy them though. So where or why would they become available between now and matchday? If they just wanted to create the illusion of a sell out in advance in order to trigger demand, then you would think that there would at least be one or two sections with seated tickets available to purchase.
Standard Ticketmaster (nightclub) tactic of holding back sales to create pent-up demand. Same as last Saturday's hurling quarter-finals, which backfired on them.
At a guess I'd say Galway bring an absolute max of 15k, Kerry struggle to 10K, Mayo < 20K, Armagh 22K tops?
Ticketmaster don't hold back the tickets. They don't open sections of the ground if demand isn't there. For these quarter finals they started with the lower decks and when the demand was there all of the upper deck was opened.
What happened with the hurling was only 17,000 tickets or something were put on ticketmaster, the rest left to be distributed between the clubs. These didn't all sell and became available later in the week on ticketmaster.
For the football only something like 1,500 per county was held back for sponsors/officials etc and the majority has gone on line (season ticket holders also had option to buy). There could still be a small element of the one's held back for individual counties coming back but the numbers shouldn't be huge as the decision was taken to sell the vast majority online. Also I don't think they have sold any for the Nally Terrace yet which would hold 3-4000. There should easily be 70-75,000 at the game.
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I saw someone on the Orchard Fans forum complaining already about the price of hotels the night of the All Ireland final, ye will be spending a lot of money in Dublin over the next month.
Just booked flights for the day of the final. Regardless of who is in it so thanks for jogging the memory. £9.99 per flight is a steal.
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Looks like it's a full house for next Sunday's double header. I'd expect a large travelling support from both Armagh and Mayo ... what is Galway's representation likely to be?
Galway followers wouldn't get that excited about a quarter final. I remember 1995 after we won Connacht after a sizeable gap, and the crowd in CP for the semi vs Tyrone was poor enough. I think it comes down to how good people feel the team is. It's a bit like US Justice Potter Stewart's 1964 test to identify hard core pornography "I know it when I see it".
However if we bate Armagh and then Derry , the perception would obviously change.
Surely Galway people feel you’s are well capable of beating ourselves and Derry/Clare if everything falls in to place? All 4 teams on our side of the draw will probably never get a better chance at making a final.
Surely Armagh and Derry are the future. Donegal and Monaghan would seem to be due a period of introspection.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T12sepCTJLU
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I saw someone on the Orchard Fans forum complaining already about the price of hotels the night of the All Ireland final, ye will be spending a lot of money in Dublin over the next month.
Anyone seen the price of hotels in Dublin for this Saturday night? Jaysus. Planning to go to the minor game on Saturday as well but looks like will have to drive up and down both Saturday and Sunday now. Accommodation very expensive.
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I saw someone on the Orchard Fans forum complaining already about the price of hotels the night of the All Ireland final, ye will be spending a lot of money in Dublin over the next month.
Anyone seen the price of hotels in Dublin for this Saturday night? Jaysus. Planning to go to the minor game on Saturday as well but looks like will have to drive up and down both Saturday and Sunday now. Accommodation very expensive.
A complete f**king shambles, so much so I'm getting the first flight into Dublin on the day, last flight out, and spending the Monday on wine and cheese in my adopted parish, wouldn't give them crooks the payday, pure robbing bastards
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I saw someone on the Orchard Fans forum complaining already about the price of hotels the night of the All Ireland final, ye will be spending a lot of money in Dublin over the next month.
Anyone seen the price of hotels in Dublin for this Saturday night? Jaysus. Planning to go to the minor game on Saturday as well but looks like will have to drive up and down both Saturday and Sunday now. Accommodation very expensive.
Its a farce.
Next time them hospitality reps come on the tv complaining about this and that, they can go to f#$k.
Complete rip off.
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I saw someone on the Orchard Fans forum complaining already about the price of hotels the night of the All Ireland final, ye will be spending a lot of money in Dublin over the next month.
Just booked flights for the day of the final. Regardless of who is in it so thanks for jogging the memory. £9.99 per flight is a steal.
This always amazes me. Flying at the same cost as a gallon of diesel when it would barely even take you as far as the Drogheda toll if driving.
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I saw someone on the Orchard Fans forum complaining already about the price of hotels the night of the All Ireland final, ye will be spending a lot of money in Dublin over the next month.
Irrespective of who gets there, I doubt if too many people will be staying up at those prices. Ridiculous stuff. I get the fact that hospitality had a tough few years and that there are a lot of Ukrainians staying in hotel accomodation but some of those prices are still scandalous. Hotels are price gouging just because they can.
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I saw someone on the Orchard Fans forum complaining already about the price of hotels the night of the All Ireland final, ye will be spending a lot of money in Dublin over the next month.
Anyone seen the price of hotels in Dublin for this Saturday night? Jaysus. Planning to go to the minor game on Saturday as well but looks like will have to drive up and down both Saturday and Sunday now. Accommodation very expensive.
Its a farce.
Next time them hospitality reps come on the tv complaining about this and that, they can go to f#$k.
Complete rip off.
500 quid for a standard hotel room, breakfast extra ... WTF .. someone must be paying it that they can get away with it. To whoever is paying it, catch a grip!
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They've been at it for years in the off licenses and pubs, milking visiting fans in some cases for the 5-6 hours they're in town, seen a local Dub refuse to buy a pint as the day before it had been x price and the day of the game up 40%
This is another reason games need to be decentralised as often as possible, ordinary people are being priced out, its the antithesis of the GAA, I know the GAA can do very little about it but lets be honest, Dublin gets way more than its fair share
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Us Tyrone ones know this all to well. With all our success and trips to HQ it can add up. I can understand how it can be a huge shock for those Armagh fans who last went to Dublin with punts.
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I saw someone on the Orchard Fans forum complaining already about the price of hotels the night of the All Ireland final, ye will be spending a lot of money in Dublin over the next month.
Anyone seen the price of hotels in Dublin for this Saturday night? Jaysus. Planning to go to the minor game on Saturday as well but looks like will have to drive up and down both Saturday and Sunday now. Accommodation very expensive.
Its a farce.
Next time them hospitality reps come on the tv complaining about this and that, they can go to f#$k.
Complete rip off.
500 quid for a standard hotel room, breakfast extra ... WTF .. someone must be paying it that they can get away with it. To whoever is paying it, catch a grip!
A big problem is that hotels like the City West are out of bounds for the next 2 years as they are accommodating refugees, which means whatever rooms are available in Dublin are ridiculously over priced.
I've spent plenty in Dublin myself over the years and with Tyrone having 4 All-Irelands in the bag during that time it's actually not too bad having a summer off from Dublin once in a while!
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I saw someone on the Orchard Fans forum complaining already about the price of hotels the night of the All Ireland final, ye will be spending a lot of money in Dublin over the next month.
Anyone seen the price of hotels in Dublin for this Saturday night? Jaysus. Planning to go to the minor game on Saturday as well but looks like will have to drive up and down both Saturday and Sunday now. Accommodation very expensive.
Its a farce.
Next time them hospitality reps come on the tv complaining about this and that, they can go to f#$k.
Complete rip off.
500 quid for a standard hotel room, breakfast extra ... WTF .. someone must be paying it that they can get away with it. To whoever is paying it, catch a grip!
I have no idea how people are paying it. Belfast is the same. 250 quid for a single room on a fri night with no breakfast. Place is packed so there must be plenty of people about with a lot of spare cash.
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I saw someone on the Orchard Fans forum complaining already about the price of hotels the night of the All Ireland final, ye will be spending a lot of money in Dublin over the next month.
Anyone seen the price of hotels in Dublin for this Saturday night? Jaysus. Planning to go to the minor game on Saturday as well but looks like will have to drive up and down both Saturday and Sunday now. Accommodation very expensive.
Its a farce.
Next time them hospitality reps come on the tv complaining about this and that, they can go to f#$k.
Complete rip off.
500 quid for a standard hotel room, breakfast extra ... WTF .. someone must be paying it that they can get away with it. To whoever is paying it, catch a grip!
I have no idea how people are paying it. Belfast is the same. 250 quid for a single room on a fri night with no breakfast. Place is packed so there must be plenty of people about with a lot of spare cash.
Insane .. you'd almost think we're in a bubble that's about to burst ::). Translink doing well out of it this weekend as well, that's 3 or 4 trains at this stage.
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I saw someone on the Orchard Fans forum complaining already about the price of hotels the night of the All Ireland final, ye will be spending a lot of money in Dublin over the next month.
Anyone seen the price of hotels in Dublin for this Saturday night? Jaysus. Planning to go to the minor game on Saturday as well but looks like will have to drive up and down both Saturday and Sunday now. Accommodation very expensive.
Its a farce.
Next time them hospitality reps come on the tv complaining about this and that, they can go to f#$k.
Complete rip off.
500 quid for a standard hotel room, breakfast extra ... WTF .. someone must be paying it that they can get away with it. To whoever is paying it, catch a grip!
I have no idea how people are paying it. Belfast is the same. 250 quid for a single room on a fri night with no breakfast. Place is packed so there must be plenty of people about with a lot of spare cash.
Belfast has turned into a mini Dublin since Covid began in terms of prices for hotel rooms, food and drinks.
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I saw someone on the Orchard Fans forum complaining already about the price of hotels the night of the All Ireland final, ye will be spending a lot of money in Dublin over the next month.
Anyone seen the price of hotels in Dublin for this Saturday night? Jaysus. Planning to go to the minor game on Saturday as well but looks like will have to drive up and down both Saturday and Sunday now. Accommodation very expensive.
Its a farce.
Next time them hospitality reps come on the tv complaining about this and that, they can go to f#$k.
Complete rip off.
500 quid for a standard hotel room, breakfast extra ... WTF .. someone must be paying it that they can get away with it. To whoever is paying it, catch a grip!
I have no idea how people are paying it. Belfast is the same. 250 quid for a single room on a fri night with no breakfast. Place is packed so there must be plenty of people about with a lot of spare cash.
Belfast has turned into a mini Dublin since Covid began in terms of prices for hotel rooms, food and drinks.
Agreed. Went out in belfast a few weeks ago for a few drinks. Charged £6.50 for a pint of guinness and an dilute orange. £5.50 for the pint and £1 for a dash or orange cordial. Ffs I can buy the entire bottle for £1.
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I'm still scared from the performance against Tipp in 2016, about as disappointing as I've ever been leaving Croke Park given the expectation prior to the match.
I'd imagine Kieran Molloy will be given the job of man marking Rhian O'Neill although I'll be more then concerned when he ventures into the full forward line, that Galway backline lacks a bit of height but don't think there's a backline amongst all the sides left which doesn't have that issue. Armagh might have the same issue and I can see Patrick Kelly spending a bit of time in the full forward line trying to catch them out.
Who knows what Galway will turn up, still have a good few doubts about this team unfortunately; Going to have to up the ante defensively from the Roscommon game.
I'm sure Galway have done plenty of work on Rafferty's kickout, both keepers have a lot of work to do in that department to match the standard of the top keepers. Rafferty doesn't like kicking to his left, can't recall him going to that side too many times in the last 2 games. The likelihood is we'll see more contests from the kickouts then any other game this weekend.
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I'm still scared from the performance against Tipp in 2016, about as disappointing as I've ever been leaving Croke Park given the expectation prior to the match.
I'd imagine Kieran Molloy will be given the job of man marking Rhian O'Neill although I'll be more then concerned when he ventures into the full forward line, that Galway backline lacks a bit of height but don't think there's a backline amongst all the sides left which doesn't have that issue. Armagh might have the same issue and I can see Patrick Kelly spending a bit of time in the full forward line trying to catch them out.
Who knows what Galway will turn up, still have a good few doubts about this team unfortunately; Going to have to up the ante defensively from the Roscommon game.
I'm sure Galway have done plenty of work on Rafferty's kickout, both keepers have a lot of work to do in that department to match the standard of the top keepers. Rafferty doesn't like kicking to his left, can't recall him going to that side too many times in the last 2 games. The likelihood is we'll see more contests from the kickouts then any other game this weekend.
Molloy isn't comfortable in the fullback line at all. Don't think we can afford to have him on O'Neill when he is inside.
The fact that Armagh favour kicking the ball early is made for Croker. This worries me.
I'm the same as yourself - leaving Croker in 2016 after that Tipp game was just so depressing and disappointing.
Armagh are a completely different kettle of fish though to be fair.
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Surely Kelly will pick up O'neill ?
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Start with the Hotels...
As someone stated a few posts back, don't come yapping when things go tits up and no-one can afford your rip-off Hotels.
Dublin can keep their Hotels and beer and charge whatever they want as i'll not be making any purchases.
As for the tickets...
I expected 70,000 - 75,000 for the game as 3 from 4 bring a good support and the two games would appeal to a lot of neutrals. If it's a sell out...great.
As for the match...
Jasus would be foolish to predict TBH, there are so many factors. Will it be defensive?. Will it be all out attack?. Both teams have a marquee forward with good attacking talent around them. Both teams have their flaws but one thing for sure is it should be close. If Galway push up on Armagh kick outs and cause them to panic they will get some joy from that, If Shane Walsh is not marshalled right we will get tore a new arse. Comer is a big unit and could cause problems too.
Armagh have a lot of attacking talent which will rack up scores against the best teams so for me it will come down to midfield and defence, will we hold them out. Can Armagh win the battle around the mid third?. For me this is the key and if we can break even there we will win the game but that's easier said than done.
Armagh 2-14
Galway 1-15
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I'd say Galway will be making plans for Campbells runs from deep. Great to see him back to form.
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Start with the Hotels...
As someone stated a few posts back, don't come yapping when things go tits up and no-one can afford your rip-off Hotels.
Dublin can keep their Hotels and beer and charge whatever they want as i'll not be making any purchases.
As for the tickets...
I expected 70,000 - 75,000 for the game as 3 from 4 bring a good support and the two games would appeal to a lot of neutrals. If it's a sell out...great.
As for the match...
Jasus would be foolish to predict TBH, there are so many factors. Will it be defensive?. Will it be all out attack?. Both teams have a marquee forward with good attacking talent around them. Both teams have their flaws but one thing for sure is it should be close. If Galway push up on Armagh kick outs and cause them to panic they will get some joy from that, If Shane Walsh is not marshalled right we will get tore a new arse. Comer is a big unit and could cause problems too.
Armagh have a lot of attacking talent which will rack up scores against the best teams so for me it will come down to midfield and defence, will we hold them out. Can Armagh win the battle around the mid third?. For me this is the key and if we can break even there we will win the game but that's easier said than done.
Armagh 2-14
Galway 1-15
Shelbourne hotel on booking.com for night of AIF is £1407, and another 30 euro if you want breakfast. This should be in the WTF thread.
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I saw someone on the Orchard Fans forum complaining already about the price of hotels the night of the All Ireland final, ye will be spending a lot of money in Dublin over the next month.
Most on there are best ignored
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I'm still scared from the performance against Tipp in 2016, about as disappointing as I've ever been leaving Croke Park given the expectation prior to the match.
Different team, different manager, different mindset and approach.
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I'm still scared from the performance against Tipp in 2016, about as disappointing as I've ever been leaving Croke Park given the expectation prior to the match.
I'd imagine Kieran Molloy will be given the job of man marking Rhian O'Neill although I'll be more then concerned when he ventures into the full forward line, that Galway backline lacks a bit of height but don't think there's a backline amongst all the sides left which doesn't have that issue. Armagh might have the same issue and I can see Patrick Kelly spending a bit of time in the full forward line trying to catch them out.
Who knows what Galway will turn up, still have a good few doubts about this team unfortunately; Going to have to up the ante defensively from the Roscommon game.
I'm sure Galway have done plenty of work on Rafferty's kickout, both keepers have a lot of work to do in that department to match the standard of the top keepers. Rafferty doesn't like kicking to his left, can't recall him going to that side too many times in the last 2 games. The likelihood is we'll see more contests from the kickouts then any other game this weekend.
They have no body of work to hang their proverbial hats on, difficult to see statements online like "Galway will be found out" from the neighbours, but until that Galway team prove otherwise it's hard to refute it either. Would anyone be that surprised to see Galway lose heavily on Sunday?
It's happened before so time for the Galway players to stand up and deliver in a big CP knockout match, even if they don't win but still play to their ability then reasonable supporters will go fair enough beaten by a better team. I think Galway have a right chance if they can somehow improve on retaining Gleeson's limited kickouts and put pressure on the opposite end.
Once it's not a total no show like Tipp 2016 or a downing tools situation like the second half of the Connacht final last year, we'll live with the outcome regardless.
Different team, different manager, different mindset and approach.
I would love to agree fully but that is to be proven yet, Galway have done well this year overall in fairness from what was a very low base in January, another huge test on Sunday. If they get a result there then we'll have a lot to look forward to, it could be the making of whichever team wins I feel.
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I'm still scared from the performance against Tipp in 2016, about as disappointing as I've ever been leaving Croke Park given the expectation prior to the match.
I'd imagine Kieran Molloy will be given the job of man marking Rhian O'Neill although I'll be more then concerned when he ventures into the full forward line, that Galway backline lacks a bit of height but don't think there's a backline amongst all the sides left which doesn't have that issue. Armagh might have the same issue and I can see Patrick Kelly spending a bit of time in the full forward line trying to catch them out.
Who knows what Galway will turn up, still have a good few doubts about this team unfortunately; Going to have to up the ante defensively from the Roscommon game.
I'm sure Galway have done plenty of work on Rafferty's kickout, both keepers have a lot of work to do in that department to match the standard of the top keepers. Rafferty doesn't like kicking to his left, can't recall him going to that side too many times in the last 2 games. The likelihood is we'll see more contests from the kickouts then any other game this weekend.
Galway have good enough forwards and poor enough defenders to take Armagh on in a shoot out
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I think Galway have the better manager
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I think Galway have the better manager
Hard to know.
When a team wins, the managers get the plaudits and when they lose, he gets the grief.
Need to have lads on the team, big leaders, who make the big decisions, when things get tough during a game.
With the water breaks gone now, less chance for management to discuss things properly.
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Excuse the ignorance here as I don't see as much of Armagh but the bauld Soupy is being relied on a nice bit and you would imagine getting a run on him going the other way is not something he fancies.
Would Galway try a curve ball like Aidan O'Shea on Donaghy and bring someone back who can live with O'Neill on the edge of the square and then can more than hold their own out the field.
It shoud be a great day above no matter. Feel for any fans having to pay for juice and a hotel. It's a feckin joke at the minute and it won't get any better.
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Excuse the ignorance here as I don't see as much of Armagh but the bauld Soupy is being relied on a nice bit and you would imagine getting a run on him going the other way is not something he fancies.
Would Galway try a curve ball like Aidan O'Shea on Donaghy and bring someone back who can live with O'Neill on the edge of the square and then can more than hold their own out the field.
It shoud be a great day above no matter. Feel for any fans having to pay for juice and a hotel. It's a feckin joke at the minute and it won't get any better.
If O Neill plays inside - Sean Kelly will pick him up. If he plays further out - Daly or Molloy most likely to pick him up.
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Excuse the ignorance here as I don't see as much of Armagh but the bauld Soupy is being relied on a nice bit and you would imagine getting a run on him going the other way is not something he fancies.
Would Galway try a curve ball like Aidan O'Shea on Donaghy and bring someone back who can live with O'Neill on the edge of the square and then can more than hold their own out the field.
It shoud be a great day above no matter. Feel for any fans having to pay for juice and a hotel. It's a feckin joke at the minute and it won't get any better.
Couldn’t see it. Soupy a serious player but I definitely don’t think we rely on him.
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You'd know more going on the handle alone, so would there be a handover if he drifts? Not one person with him all day.
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Orange jerseys will show up very well on TV. The Qatar World Cup producers are all over the Netherlands first game for the colour alone.
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Excuse the ignorance here as I don't see as much of Armagh but the bauld Soupy is being relied on a nice bit and you would imagine getting a run on him going the other way is not something he fancies.
Would Galway try a curve ball like Aidan O'Shea on Donaghy and bring someone back who can live with O'Neill on the edge of the square and then can more than hold their own out the field.
It shoud be a great day above no matter. Feel for any fans having to pay for juice and a hotel. It's a feckin joke at the minute and it won't get any better.
The best Galway player equipped to deal with him is already at the edge of the square. The worrying problem is when Rian roams, would Kelly come out the field at that point and leave no physical presence back there? Probably not but its hard to know. Molloy will probably follow him out the field but it would leave Rian as an excellent option for kickouts, if Raferty can hit him. Galway best defenders by a distance are at 3 & 6
Is Morgan likely to pick up Comer if Comer goes to 14? Galway themselves potentially have two very high ball options in the forwards if they decide to play them close to goal.
I think this game could be far cagier than the classic most people are predicting. Galway are afraid of leaving their back line exposed against a team like Mayo who've average forwards and don't kick the ball. There's no way they won't play with at least 1 sweeper against a team that actually does go direct. Probably a double sweeper. Mcgeeneys not going to play the game on Galways terms and feed into the one thing Galway are really good at, quick counter attacks. So I don't think Armagh will over commit as a response. Where the game could open up is if one team falls behind and has to really press kick outs, as both keepers are there to be shot at. But until that point im expecting a slower game than most
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Orange jerseys will show up very well on TV. The Qatar World Cup producers are all over the Netherlands first game for the colour alone.
Definitely. There'll be 30k Armagh fans and it'll feel like 50k
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G, u some amount of jump on the bandwagon Armagh supporters when you barely had 7k at Ballybofey. (Limited Capacity of course)
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Orange jerseys will show up very well on TV. The Qatar World Cup producers are all over the Netherlands first game for the colour alone.
Ye'll definitely win so
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Why do Armagh have orange jerseys ?
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Why do Armagh have orange jerseys ?
was the nuns in omeath knitted them jerseys way back and was only colour they had. Apparently.
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before that they played in black and amber. Same as cross.
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Orange jerseys will show up very well on TV. The Qatar World Cup producers are all over the Netherlands first game for the colour alone.
Definitely. There'll be 30k Armagh fans and it'll feel like 50k
Dublin will be flooded.... with their tears.
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Why do Armagh have orange jerseys ?
Because the orange order was founded in Armagh and is an institution in the county.
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Great to see all the attention this thread is getting from Tyrone fans, its a long time since they took 30k+ fans to a match anyway but given some of the stuff they played over the years I wouldn't really blame their fans. Croke Park will be a sea of orange on Sunday as there is nothing to reinvigorate a fan base like a few years in the relative wilderness and playing a good brand of football. If there is another day out after Sunday the ante will be upped again for the next day. If not then we can live with getting beaten by Galway, it's not like a defeat against Tyrone or Down.
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Fantastic to see a big Armagh support. I remember when Tyrone first started making inroads in the All Ireland series. Huge crowds.
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G, u some amount of jump on the bandwagon Armagh supporters when you barely had 7k at Ballybofey. (Limited Capacity of course)
There was 10,000+ Armagh people at the league games in the Athletic grounds against Tyrone and Kerry and not many less against Monaghan. There are a good few for whom it will not be their first game.
20 years ago the Armagh championship support was about 16,000, which is a substantial proportion of the county.
This game will attract people with Armagh connections who think that Kerry v Mayo might be interesting too.
The forecast for Sunday is a bit mixed at present, it would be nice if the rain and wind held off as it would suit Galway.
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G, u some amount of jump on the bandwagon Armagh supporters when you barely had 7k at Ballybofey. (Limited Capacity of course)
There was 10,000+ Armagh people at the league games in the Athletic grounds against Tyrone and Kerry and not many less against Monaghan. There are a good few for whom it will not be their first game.
20 years ago the Armagh championship support was about 16,000, which is a substantial proportion of the county.
This game will attract people with Armagh connections who think that Kerry v Mayo might be interesting too.
The forecast for Sunday is a bit mixed at present, it would be nice if the rain and wind held off as it would suit Galway.
Not so sure I agree with you there
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Tell me this... was chatting to a lad there and he happened to say that Croke Park dont allow you to take a backpack in anymore. Now i says, sure i was there in Jan for the league game v the dubs and brought one in no bother.
I'm now thinking, feck could he be right. Long oul time in Croke Park for the 2 games and the kids with me. I need a right supply of sambos and snacks!
Anyone able to shed light on this for me?
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They were telling people to get their bags searched last Saturday week.
But with a near full house expected that might not be feasible next Sunday.
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Tell me this... was chatting to a lad there and he happened to say that Croke Park dont allow you to take a backpack in anymore. Now i says, sure i was there in Jan for the league game v the dubs and brought one in no bother.
I'm now thinking, feck could he be right. Long oul time in Croke Park for the 2 games and the kids with me. I need a right supply of sambos and snacks!
Anyone able to shed light on this for me?
Put them in clear plastic bag and I'd say you would have no problem however many munchies you bring.
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I'd say they're more looking for the 6-pack of cans than anything else ... or more aptly, the buckfast this Sunday ;)
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Tell me this... was chatting to a lad there and he happened to say that Croke Park dont allow you to take a backpack in anymore. Now i says, sure i was there in Jan for the league game v the dubs and brought one in no bother.
I'm now thinking, feck could he be right. Long oul time in Croke Park for the 2 games and the kids with me. I need a right supply of sambos and snacks!
Anyone able to shed light on this for me?
I was at Leinster Final. I had a small A4 size rucksack with a couple of bottles of water and a few treats etc.
There's a few lads on tables who 'search' anyone with a bag before you get to the turnstiles.
I use the term 'search' loosely but they have a quick rummage through it.
Bear in mind, the crowd was poor enough so no real queue at the tables. If a big crowd, like anticipated, at the week-end, it could hold things up a bit.
Best advice is to get in early and avoid the hassle.
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Tell me this... was chatting to a lad there and he happened to say that Croke Park dont allow you to take a backpack in anymore. Now i says, sure i was there in Jan for the league game v the dubs and brought one in no bother.
I'm now thinking, feck could he be right. Long oul time in Croke Park for the 2 games and the kids with me. I need a right supply of sambos and snacks!
Anyone able to shed light on this for me?
I'd say it will be okay if it's a schoolbag type size. I had a full bag with me last Sunday and wasn't searched for the first game but they were searching for the second match I noticed.
I imagine at worst a quick scrimmage through for any banned items and it be a few seconds. With the crowd expected they'll be fairly busy.
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No longer tickets available to buy for the Sunday. I doubt if they’ll be rummaging through bags to confiscate sandwiches on people anyway.
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No longer tickets available to buy for the Sunday. I doubt if they’ll be rummaging through bags to confiscate sandwiches on people anyway.
If they would confiscate those bloody horns, I would be happy enough.
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G, u some amount of jump on the bandwagon Armagh supporters when you barely had 7k at Ballybofey. (Limited Capacity of course)
There was 10,000+ Armagh people at the league games in the Athletic grounds against Tyrone and Kerry and not many less against Monaghan. There are a good few for whom it will not be their first game.
20 years ago the Armagh championship support was about 16,000, which is a substantial proportion of the county.
This game will attract people with Armagh connections who think that Kerry v Mayo might be interesting too.
The forecast for Sunday is a bit mixed at present, it would be nice if the rain and wind held off as it would suit Galway.
How would the wind and especially rain suit Galway? They have very little physicality all over, their whole game is based on quick counter attacking at speed, usually with the foot. Armagh are a much more physical side and would be expected to thrive in a game in the trenches. Galway rely heavily on individual moments from their best footballers, Conroy Walsh & Comer, none of whom would suit a wet day whatsoever. Both Galways Connacht wins came on hot dry days. Historically they've performed poorly when the elements have been bad. It would probably blunt Armagh's direct kicking game in alright, but that's also what Galway have been incorporating heavily also
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What’s the reason behind not opening the nally terrace for this? No other tickets available so you’d think they would have it open.
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Little physicality, you got 3/4 lads over 6ft 4in depending on who u starting.
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Little physicality, you got 3/4 lads over 6ft 4in depending on who u starting.
Who?
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I'd say they're more looking for the 6-pack of cans than anything else ... or more aptly, the buckfast this Sunday ;)
Ah now, we put that into pepsi bottles #foolingnoone
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If the match was decided on the basis of GAAboard posts, Armagh would be unbackable.
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If the match was decided on the basis of GAAboard posts, Armagh would be unbackable.
I'm not sure that's the case!
I think most people see this game as 50/50. Darragh O'Se in his column in today's Irish Times, is very slightly tipping Galway.
Some bookies seem to have Armagh as very slight favourites.
There's nothing in it in most people's minds, yet I wouldn't be surprised if either team won by 7 or 8 points.
Armagh have the momentum. Galway waiting in the long grass.
One final point - I think its refreshing to see supporters enjoying a bit of success in Armagh. Don't underestimate the quality and style of Armagh's play this year in encouraging a bit of giddyness. Given the level of skepticism and boring detail that pervades among GAA followers and analysts, is this not a good thing.
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I'd say they're more looking for the 6-pack of cans than anything else ... or more aptly, the buckfast this Sunday ;)
This is the buckfast bowl really isn't it? Galway the traditional buckfast capital although I hear sales up round yer spot have hit a huge revival in recent years!
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G, u some amount of jump on the bandwagon Armagh supporters when you barely had 7k at Ballybofey. (Limited Capacity of course)
There was 10,000+ Armagh people at the league games in the Athletic grounds against Tyrone and Kerry and not many less against Monaghan. There are a good few for whom it will not be their first game.
20 years ago the Armagh championship support was about 16,000, which is a substantial proportion of the county.
This game will attract people with Armagh connections who think that Kerry v Mayo might be interesting too.
The forecast for Sunday is a bit mixed at present, it would be nice if the rain and wind held off as it would suit Galway.
How would the wind and especially rain suit Galway? They have very little physicality all over, their whole game is based on quick counter attacking at speed, usually with the foot. Armagh are a much more physical side and would be expected to thrive in a game in the trenches. Galway rely heavily on individual moments from their best footballers, Conroy Walsh & Comer, none of whom would suit a wet day whatsoever. Both Galways Connacht wins came on hot dry days. Historically they've performed poorly when the elements have been bad. It would probably blunt Armagh's direct kicking game in alright, but that's also what Galway have been incorporating heavily also
The forecast today makes rain more likely than not on Sunday.
There is more rain generally in Galway than Armagh
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A few tickets still available
https://www.ticketmaster.ie/event/18005CBEA7F4ADC2
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Anyone looking tickets, I have 4 for upper Cusack, section 714. Face value (40 each) ono.
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Tell me this... was chatting to a lad there and he happened to say that Croke Park dont allow you to take a backpack in anymore. Now i says, sure i was there in Jan for the league game v the dubs and brought one in no bother.
I'm now thinking, feck could he be right. Long oul time in Croke Park for the 2 games and the kids with me. I need a right supply of sambos and snacks!
Anyone able to shed light on this for me?
Get your order in to wee paddy's asap.
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G, u some amount of jump on the bandwagon Armagh supporters when you barely had 7k at Ballybofey. (Limited Capacity of course)
There was 10,000+ Armagh people at the league games in the Athletic grounds against Tyrone and Kerry and not many less against Monaghan. There are a good few for whom it will not be their first game.
20 years ago the Armagh championship support was about 16,000, which is a substantial proportion of the county.
This game will attract people with Armagh connections who think that Kerry v Mayo might be interesting too.
The forecast for Sunday is a bit mixed at present, it would be nice if the rain and wind held off as it would suit Galway.
How would the wind and especially rain suit Galway? They have very little physicality all over, their whole game is based on quick counter attacking at speed, usually with the foot. Armagh are a much more physical side and would be expected to thrive in a game in the trenches. Galway rely heavily on individual moments from their best footballers, Conroy Walsh & Comer, none of whom would suit a wet day whatsoever. Both Galways Connacht wins came on hot dry days. Historically they've performed poorly when the elements have been bad. It would probably blunt Armagh's direct kicking game in alright, but that's also what Galway have been incorporating heavily also
The forecast today makes rain more likely than not on Sunday.
There is more rain generally in Galway than Armagh
Haha. I can't believe I'm actually entertaining a discussion on this one. But anyway, Galway and Armagh are in the same shade in that graphic. Those darker blue spots, they're all mountains
We do get our share of rain though alright. Unfortunately we've been training in that new Connacht dome all winter. Feck it
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Tell me this... was chatting to a lad there and he happened to say that Croke Park dont allow you to take a backpack in anymore. Now i says, sure i was there in Jan for the league game v the dubs and brought one in no bother.
I'm now thinking, feck could he be right. Long oul time in Croke Park for the 2 games and the kids with me. I need a right supply of sambos and snacks!
Anyone able to shed light on this for me?
Can only go by my own experience but we were able to take in one of those Club Tyrone Summer camp bags into the All-Ireland Final last year. They vigorously searched all bags going in (we were in the Cusack stand) and took 2 cans of Fanta off us (the cans were at the bottom of the bag under other stuff). I had only expected them to do a quick rummage like the other times we were previously in Croke Park but they did let us drink them before going in which was awful nice of them!.
If you are going to take in fizzy drinks for the kids then just put them in your coat pocket!
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If the match was decided on the basis of GAAboard posts, Armagh would be unbackable.
Anyone predicting the result of this game with any degree of certainty is lying since there is no reliable form guide to base it off. I think that is a large part of the appeal of the fixture. Armagh v Donegal on the other hand carried a lot of familiarity fatigue for players and fans even though it ultimately turned out to be a great match.
I think that Armagh have the momentum though and if they continue to play with the same freedom I think they will be very hard to beat on Sunday. We have been used to playing division one opposition all year which is ideal preparation whereas Galway have only played division 2 sides with the exception of Mayo. I think Galway might struggle to live with our level of intensity and tackling. That said I can't pretend to know an awful lot about Galway but, rightly or wrongly, the perception is that they have some very good attacking players but that defensively they are suspect.
The area I'd be worried about most on Sunday is our midfield which is a long way off the level of the top teams. For that reason I think Rian O'Neill will spend most of the match around the middle and I think that is where he is most effective anyway although he might spend some short spells playing inside. If Rafferty can have a good day on kick outs and we can get close to breaking even around midfield then I think we will have a great chance as we have the quality up front to do damage on a big pitch. I don't think the weather will favour any side, the pitch will still be in pristine condition and a greasy ball just favours the better ball handling team.
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G, u some amount of jump on the bandwagon Armagh supporters when you barely had 7k at Ballybofey. (Limited Capacity of course)
There was 10,000+ Armagh people at the league games in the Athletic grounds against Tyrone and Kerry and not many less against Monaghan. There are a good few for whom it will not be their first game.
20 years ago the Armagh championship support was about 16,000, which is a substantial proportion of the county.
This game will attract people with Armagh connections who think that Kerry v Mayo might be interesting too.
The forecast for Sunday is a bit mixed at present, it would be nice if the rain and wind held off as it would suit Galway.
How would the wind and especially rain suit Galway? They have very little physicality all over, their whole game is based on quick counter attacking at speed, usually with the foot. Armagh are a much more physical side and would be expected to thrive in a game in the trenches. Galway rely heavily on individual moments from their best footballers, Conroy Walsh & Comer, none of whom would suit a wet day whatsoever. Both Galways Connacht wins came on hot dry days. Historically they've performed poorly when the elements have been bad. It would probably blunt Armagh's direct kicking game in alright, but that's also what Galway have been incorporating heavily also
The forecast today makes rain more likely than not on Sunday.
There is more rain generally in Galway than Armagh
Haha. I can't believe I'm actually entertaining a discussion on this one. But anyway, Galway and Armagh are in the same shade in that graphic. Those darker blue spots, they're all mountains
We do get our share of rain though alright. Unfortunately we've been training in that new Connacht dome all winter. Feck it
Whilst the Map is sure to get Alarm bells ringing in Mc Geeneys camp as neither him or Donaghy have much experience of living in rainswept counties. Rory Gallagher will be relaxed sitting on his leather chair stroking his cat. The Fermanagh man is having a nice week...
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Little physicality, you got 3/4 lads over 6ft 4in depending on who u starting.
I can think of only one lad that height on the whole panel - Patrick Kelly.
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Little physicality, you got 3/4 lads over 6ft 4in depending on who u starting.
I can think of only one lad that height on the whole panel - Patrick Kelly.
what size is Comer?
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Little physicality, you got 3/4 lads over 6ft 4in depending on who u starting.
I can think of only one lad that height on the whole panel - Patrick Kelly.
what size is Comer?
He wouldn’t be overly tall would he? Built like a belgian blue though!
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Little physicality, you got 3/4 lads over 6ft 4in depending on who u starting.
I can think of only one lad that height on the whole panel - Patrick Kelly.
what size is Comer?
He wouldn’t be overly tall would he? Built like a belgian blue though!
Strong as an ox but only about 6 foot tall
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Comers Galway's only physical presence really despite being 6ft tops. Sean Kelly is the best bet on a light defence for Rian if he goes inside but you'd still worry. There's essentially zero midfielders in the 26. The best of them is out in America in Peter Cooke, while the 2/3 others who floated around in recent seasons have either fallen foul of Joyce or visa versa and dropped away. So we rely on Conroy who's really a forward and is a bit undersized as a traditional ball winning midfielder, and a wing back in McDaid. Patrick Kelly as someone mentioned is huge alright, about 6 5' but at 21 is a bag of bones still and will be a forward, if he starts.
That's essentially the big issue for Galway, we have a keeper who can't get quick kickouts away and lack the size and ball winning ability for when he goes deep, which is the majority of the time. In the Mayo game they had 50% more possessions than Galway. That'll need to change Sunday but it's hard to envisage a scenario where Galway won't lose that statistic again. Happened versus Roscommon also
So you're essentially hoping to get past that and place hope in the team's good points, a lot of pace on the break from all over, and forwards who can score from limited possession. It'll likely cost them in the end however
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In the Connacht final it appeared Matthew Tierney, Paul Conroy was the Galway midfield pairing. McDaid played wing back and was heavily involved in the counter attacking with his pace. Molloy, Sean Kelly were doing man marking roles both probably to do the same on Armagh best two forwards on Sunday?
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In the Connacht final it appeared Matthew Tierney, Paul Conroy was the Galway midfield pairing. McDaid played wing back and was heavily involved in the counter attacking with his pace. Molloy, Sean Kelly were doing man marking roles both probably to do the same on Armagh best two forwards on Sunday?
Molloy is the Corofin fella with the long hair? Who would he be likely to pick up do you think? Consensus seems to be Kelly will pick up Rian. Nugent, Grugan and Soupy all need man marked as well- all capable of ripping any team a new one. As are Comer/Walsh/Conroy for Galway.
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In the Connacht final it appeared Matthew Tierney, Paul Conroy was the Galway midfield pairing. McDaid played wing back and was heavily involved in the counter attacking with his pace. Molloy, Sean Kelly were doing man marking roles both probably to do the same on Armagh best two forwards on Sunday?
Molloy is the Corofin fella with the long hair? Who would he be likely to pick up do you think? Consensus seems to be Kelly will pick up Rian. Nugent, Grugan and Soupy all need man marked as well- all capable of ripping any team a new one. As are Comer/Walsh/Conroy for Galway.
That's him, when given the man marking role Galway management normally earmark the most creative and likely goal scorer. Sean Kelly will likely be tasked with Rian O'Neill.
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In the Connacht final it appeared Matthew Tierney, Paul Conroy was the Galway midfield pairing. McDaid played wing back and was heavily involved in the counter attacking with his pace. Molloy, Sean Kelly were doing man marking roles both probably to do the same on Armagh best two forwards on Sunday?
Molloy is the Corofin fella with the long hair? Who would he be likely to pick up do you think? Consensus seems to be Kelly will pick up Rian. Nugent, Grugan and Soupy all need man marked as well- all capable of ripping any team a new one. As are Comer/Walsh/Conroy for Galway.
That's him, when given the man marking role Galway management normally earmark the most creative and likely goal scorer. Sean Kelly will likely be tasked with Rian O'Neill.
Has to be Kelly. Liam Silke is the only other possibility.
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If the match was decided on the basis of GAAboard posts, Armagh would be unbackable.
I don't know much about Galway but it's dangerous to talk with authority about how a game is likely to go or how particular teams will play on the day. I wouldn't have a clue how to call most games never mind this one.
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You Galway lads not even know the height of u lads. Paul Conroy, all 6ft 4 of him is not a ball fetching midfielder, right, Tierney a inch bigger again, christ.
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Comers Galway's only physical presence really despite being 6ft tops. Sean Kelly is the best bet on a light defence for Rian if he goes inside but you'd still worry. There's essentially zero midfielders in the 26. The best of them is out in America in Peter Cooke, while the 2/3 others who floated around in recent seasons have either fallen foul of Joyce or visa versa and dropped away. So we rely on Conroy who's really a forward and is a bit undersized as a traditional ball winning midfielder, and a wing back in McDaid. Patrick Kelly as someone mentioned is huge alright, about 6 5' but at 21 is a bag of bones still and will be a forward, if he starts.
That's essentially the big issue for Galway, we have a keeper who can't get quick kickouts away and lack the size and ball winning ability for when he goes deep, which is the majority of the time. In the Mayo game they had 50% more possessions than Galway. That'll need to change Sunday but it's hard to envisage a scenario where Galway won't lose that statistic again. Happened versus Roscommon also
So you're essentially hoping to get past that and place hope in the team's good points, a lot of pace on the break from all over, and forwards who can score from limited possession. It'll likely cost them in the end however
That's good to know because I would have doubts about Armaghs midfield as well so it sounds like we both have the same strengths and weaknesses in terms of defence, midfield and attack. I would gladly take 50% possession around the middle and trust in our forwards to win us the match. There is also a doubt as to how strong Rafferty is under pressure when a squeeze is put on his kick outs. However if in doubt I noticed that he tends to put a lot towards the sideline which is the best place to lose the ball. Armaghs defence has improved considerably this season but it will be interesting to see how it holds up under pressure on Sunday as I believe this Galway forward line could be the best we've faced yet. This season we have reduced the amount of scoreable free kicks we are giving away under pressure.
I see that Coldrick is down to referee the match which should suit Armagh as he allows a bit more physical contact than most referees and he had a great game refereeing us against Tyrone.
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In the Connacht final it appeared Matthew Tierney, Paul Conroy was the Galway midfield pairing. McDaid played wing back and was heavily involved in the counter attacking with his pace. Molloy, Sean Kelly were doing man marking roles both probably to do the same on Armagh best two forwards on Sunday?
Molloy is the Corofin fella with the long hair? Who would he be likely to pick up do you think? Consensus seems to be Kelly will pick up Rian. Nugent, Grugan and Soupy all need man marked as well- all capable of ripping any team a new one. As are Comer/Walsh/Conroy for Galway.
Nugent worries me. He'll be picked up by one of Glynn (pacy but young and lacks strength) or Silke (experienced but lacks mobility for a corner). I think he could cause either issues. John Daly is Galways best defender but will likely play the sweeper role and try hold the middle as much as possible. Molloy may tag Rian if he roams far from goal but otherwise I'd say he'll be on Campbell. Glynn on Nugent and Silke on Grugan if I had to guess but depends who far Grugan plays from goal also
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You Galway lads not even know the height of u lads. Paul Conroy, all 6ft 4 of him is not a ball fetching midfielder, right, Tierney a inch bigger again, christ.
Literally a simple google will tell you Conroy's not 6 4'. We've been watching him for 15 years, often as the midfield partner of actual 6 4' players such as Tom Flynn or Fintain o'Currain.
This is one of the oddest things I've ever seen someone get butthurt over. Galway fans explaining an area that their team is lacking in and an opposition fan trying to argue against it. Weird
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You Galway lads not even know the height of u lads. Paul Conroy, all 6ft 4 of him is not a ball fetching midfielder, right, Tierney a inch bigger again, christ.
Literally a simple google will tell you Conroy's not 6 4'. We've been watching him for 15 years, often as the midfield partner of actual 6 4' players such as Tom Flynn or Fintain o'Currain.
This is one of the oddest things I've ever seen someone get butthurt over. Galway fans explaining an area that their team is lacking in and an opposition fan trying to argue against it. Weird
He is 6’3” or thereabouts.
This could come down to inches
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He's 6ft 4 cause he played against James kielt more than a few time since minor and he always been bigger than him, Kielt was over 6ft 3in.
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Not sure what to make of this match. Armagh are being bigged up a bit more than they should be imo. Don't get me wrong, good wins against (albeit terrible defending champions) Tyrone, and then a Donegal team, that even looking out of sorts, were fit to get back into the game and lead despite the bad start. The black card and penalty turned the game and then were able to coast after that. I'm just not sold on Armagh yet. For years they were fit to do it in league, but looked poor come summer when it mattered. They'll have huge momentum with their run, but really think a Galway team with good confidence, forwards in form, will be a very different thing than what they've seen this summer. It's a very different beast they'll be facing. I just think they flatter to deceive a lot. And with Rian O'Neill, a great player, but can go from the hottest of hot to the coldest of cold from one day to the next. If he has an off day, I don't see where Armagh get enough scores from. Think Galway are solid, playing well, and have 3 to 4 forward that need to be wrapped up, and can't see this being done to all of them so scores might come a bit easier to them. It'll be a battle and we'll see how Armagh go then, but I'd take Galway by 3.
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It's hard to know what level Ulster football is at. This weekend should tell a tale.
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Armagh have been probably one of the few teams who have had a huge spread of scorers through the league and championship and a lot from play. I get what you mean they flatter to deceive at the business end but so do Galway. I think Galway have only won 1 game in Croke Park since 2001 including league Armagh have won a right few games there in recent times. It will be an intresting Match up thats for sure. I think the game will be won on the day massively influenced by the keepers kickout Midfield battle and how the ref fairs out for both teams. I think its a toss up between the both in terms of Player Ability
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Armagh have been probably one of the few teams who have had a huge spread of scorers through the league and championship and a lot from play. I get what you mean they flatter to deceive at the business end but so do Galway. I think Galway have only won 1 game in Croke Park since 2001 including league Armagh have won a right few games there in recent times. It will be an intresting Match up thats for sure. I think the game will be won on the day massively influenced by the keepers kickout Midfield battle and how the ref fairs out for both teams. I think its a toss up between the both in terms of Player Ability
I don't think anyone could argue with that statement re Galway to be fair.
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Not sure what to make of this match. Armagh are being bigged up a bit more than they should be imo. Don't get me wrong, good wins against (albeit terrible defending champions) Tyrone, and then a Donegal team, that even looking out of sorts, were fit to get back into the game and lead despite the bad start. The black card and penalty turned the game and then were able to coast after that. I'm just not sold on Armagh yet. For years they were fit to do it in league, but looked poor come summer when it mattered. They'll have huge momentum with their run, but really think a Galway team with good confidence, forwards in form, will be a very different thing than what they've seen this summer. It's a very different beast they'll be facing. I just think they flatter to deceive a lot. And with Rian O'Neill, a great player, but can go from the hottest of hot to the coldest of cold from one day to the next. If he has an off day, I don't see where Armagh get enough scores from. Think Galway are solid, playing well, and have 3 to 4 forward that need to be wrapped up, and can't see this being done to all of them so scores might come a bit easier to them. It'll be a battle and we'll see how Armagh go then, but I'd take Galway by 3.
I really, really hope you are wrong on that, but I don't mind telling you as an Armagh supporter and a lifelong member of the 'glass half empty brigade', your post articulated a lot of my fears ahead of this match.
This is as a good draw for Armagh (as it was for Galway) but too many are conflating a good draw with an easy draw and this match is not that. I would guess that Galway are - by some distance - the best team we will have played in the Championship this year and will represent a formidable obstacle for us.
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The Galway Croke Park thing is overplayed a bit. In the last 10 years they've played there 7 times. A 1-6 record looks crap on the face of it but only once were they favourites and they were rank outsiders for 5 of them. Played Cork and Donegal soon after those two were competing in finals and Galway were in the doldrums. Lost two and won 1 v Kerry which is a decent return for most counties. Lost to Mayo last year after running out of steam and multiple injuries after an excellent first half. A great second half display from mayo on that on etbf. The one real black mark was a loss to Tipperary. In hindsight that team wasn't near the level required
The Corofin lads have spent their club careers running amok in Croker. About 8 panel members won an u20 All Ireland v Dublin there two years back. Others have won underage AI's there also. I don't think the venue will be an excuse
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Not sure what to make of this match. Armagh are being bigged up a bit more than they should be imo. Don't get me wrong, good wins against (albeit terrible defending champions) Tyrone, and then a Donegal team, that even looking out of sorts, were fit to get back into the game and lead despite the bad start. The black card and penalty turned the game and then were able to coast after that. I'm just not sold on Armagh yet. For years they were fit to do it in league, but looked poor come summer when it mattered. They'll have huge momentum with their run, but really think a Galway team with good confidence, forwards in form, will be a very different thing than what they've seen this summer. It's a very different beast they'll be facing. I just think they flatter to deceive a lot. And with Rian O'Neill, a great player, but can go from the hottest of hot to the coldest of cold from one day to the next. If he has an off day, I don't see where Armagh get enough scores from. Think Galway are solid, playing well, and have 3 to 4 forward that need to be wrapped up, and can't see this being done to all of them so scores might come a bit easier to them. It'll be a battle and we'll see how Armagh go then, but I'd take Galway by 3.
I really, really hope you are wrong on that, but I don't mind telling you as an Armagh supporter and a lifelong member of the 'glass half empty brigade', your post articulated a lot of my fears ahead of this match.
This is as a good draw for Armagh (as it was for Galway) but too many are conflating a good draw with an easy draw and this match is not that. I would guess that Galway are - by some distance - the best team we will have played in the Championship this year and will represent a formidable obstacle for us.
The funny thing is, all that can be put to bed with the run you're on by continuing to win. I'll be fully sold that you're a different team if you do it against a team in good form, and not under a cloud for some reason. Lord knows you have the talent, just need to produce the goods now consistently. And no reason you can't, especially with the support you'll bring, with that behind you.
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Not sure what to make of this match. Armagh are being bigged up a bit more than they should be imo. Don't get me wrong, good wins against (albeit terrible defending champions) Tyrone, and then a Donegal team, that even looking out of sorts, were fit to get back into the game and lead despite the bad start. The black card and penalty turned the game and then were able to coast after that. I'm just not sold on Armagh yet. For years they were fit to do it in league, but looked poor come summer when it mattered. They'll have huge momentum with their run, but really think a Galway team with good confidence, forwards in form, will be a very different thing than what they've seen this summer. It's a very different beast they'll be facing. I just think they flatter to deceive a lot. And with Rian O'Neill, a great player, but can go from the hottest of hot to the coldest of cold from one day to the next. If he has an off day, I don't see where Armagh get enough scores from. Think Galway are solid, playing well, and have 3 to 4 forward that need to be wrapped up, and can't see this being done to all of them so scores might come a bit easier to them. It'll be a battle and we'll see how Armagh go then, but I'd take Galway by 3.
I really, really hope you are wrong on that, but I don't mind telling you as an Armagh supporter and a lifelong member of the 'glass half empty brigade', your post articulated a lot of my fears ahead of this match.
This is as a good draw for Armagh (as it was for Galway) but too many are conflating a good draw with an easy draw and this match is not that. I would guess that Galway are - by some distance - the best team we will have played in the Championship this year and will represent a formidable obstacle for us.
When did Armagh last put in a performance three times in a row against decent teams?
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Not sure what to make of this match. Armagh are being bigged up a bit more than they should be imo. Don't get me wrong, good wins against (albeit terrible defending champions) Tyrone, and then a Donegal team, that even looking out of sorts, were fit to get back into the game and lead despite the bad start. The black card and penalty turned the game and then were able to coast after that. I'm just not sold on Armagh yet. For years they were fit to do it in league, but looked poor come summer when it mattered. They'll have huge momentum with their run, but really think a Galway team with good confidence, forwards in form, will be a very different thing than what they've seen this summer. It's a very different beast they'll be facing. I just think they flatter to deceive a lot. And with Rian O'Neill, a great player, but can go from the hottest of hot to the coldest of cold from one day to the next. If he has an off day, I don't see where Armagh get enough scores from. Think Galway are solid, playing well, and have 3 to 4 forward that need to be wrapped up, and can't see this being done to all of them so scores might come a bit easier to them. It'll be a battle and we'll see how Armagh go then, but I'd take Galway by 3.
I really, really hope you are wrong on that, but I don't mind telling you as an Armagh supporter and a lifelong member of the 'glass half empty brigade', your post articulated a lot of my fears ahead of this match.
This is as a good draw for Armagh (as it was for Galway) but too many are conflating a good draw with an easy draw and this match is not that. I would guess that Galway are - by some distance - the best team we will have played in the Championship this year and will represent a formidable obstacle for us.
When did Armagh last put in a performance three times in a row against decent teams?
That's the concern I was raising. And the first 2 wins were against decent teams but on the back of a bad loss themselves. Thing is though, those streaks are made for breaking, so no reason it can't happen this weekend.
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The Galway Croke Park thing is overplayed a bit. In the last 10 years they've played there 7 times. A 1-6 record looks crap on the face of it but only once were they favourites and they were rank outsiders for 5 of them. Played Cork and Donegal soon after those two were competing in finals and Galway were in the doldrums. Lost two and won 1 v Kerry which is a decent return for most counties. Lost to Mayo last year after running out of steam and multiple injuries after an excellent first half. A great second half display from mayo on that on etbf. The one real black mark was a loss to Tipperary. In hindsight that team wasn't near the level required
The Corofin lads have spent their club careers running amok in Croker. About 8 panel members won an u20 All Ireland v Dublin there two years back. Others have won underage AI's there also. I don't think the venue will be an excuse
There should be no excuses now full stop. The days of no shows and flat performances at this level aren’t going to cut it. I still have worries about this Galway team particularly around the kick outs, it’s hard to imagine that we can continue to come a distant second best on restarts at both ends and prevail now that the business end has arrived. Our score conversion rate has improved and has been generally excellent this year - obviously that has must continue. I don’t know what way this game is going to go on Sunday, there’s no recent familiarity between the teams at all, Galway can’t be trusted at this stage of the championship yet, a complete disappointment, a really good display or anything at all in between wouldn’t shock me. Armagh could be the real coming force that they are being talked up as, they may not be, we don’t know really.
If these Galway lads want to do something major then this Sunday is the opportunity, they need to show up, play well, take every chance they get and make Armagh earn every score. If Galway play well but still lose because Armagh are the better team after that then there will be no complaints and nothing to say bar best of luck to them going forward.
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On a point or two you make yes it is hard to know with either of these teams whether it's hype or whether they are the real deal. The good thing with this game is you just don't know what you're going to get.
There are some fantastic forwards on view and I am really looking forward to it. I am not sure I'll even watch some of the rest of them.
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The Galway Croke Park thing is overplayed a bit. In the last 10 years they've played there 7 times. A 1-6 record looks crap on the face of it but only once were they favourites and they were rank outsiders for 5 of them. Played Cork and Donegal soon after those two were competing in finals and Galway were in the doldrums. Lost two and won 1 v Kerry which is a decent return for most counties. Lost to Mayo last year after running out of steam and multiple injuries after an excellent first half. A great second half display from mayo on that on etbf. The one real black mark was a loss to Tipperary. In hindsight that team wasn't near the level required
The Corofin lads have spent their club careers running amok in Croker. About 8 panel members won an u20 All Ireland v Dublin there two years back. Others have won underage AI's there also. I don't think the venue will be an excuse
There should be no excuses now full stop. The days of no shows and flat performances at this level aren’t going to cut it. I still have worries about this Galway team particularly around the kick outs, it’s hard to imagine that we can continue to come a distant second best on restarts at both ends and prevail now that the business end has arrived. Our score conversion rate has improved and has been generally excellent this year - obviously that has must continue. I don’t know what way this game is going to go on Sunday, there’s no recent familiarity between the teams at all, Galway can’t be trusted at this stage of the championship yet, a complete disappointment, a really good display or anything at all in between wouldn’t shock me. Armagh could be the real coming force that they are being talked up as, they may not be, we don’t know really.
If these Galway lads want to do something major then this Sunday is the opportunity, they need to show up, play well, take every chance they get and make Armagh earn every score. If Galway play well but still lose because Armagh are the better team after that then there will be no complaints and nothing to say bar best of luck to them going forward.
I’d say I could swap Armaghs name for Galways in that post and the same would be true in reverse. 2 sides that have underperformed for too long- both have plenty of super players, both big name managers who are absolute icons from their playing days. Bolded is very true, if we’re beat by the better team then we’ll say well done and best of luck for the rest of the year, but we need to put in a huge performance.
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As a Tyrone man dare I say I'm backing (and slightly hoping) our neighbours to do the business on Sunday.
To me both teams have have had the makings of a side that could challenge the top teams for a few years now but have been struggling to put the puzzle together. They seem to have both found the balance they were looking for. It could be a cracking game.
The momentum and support Armagh have will be enough to get them over the line. Their confidence will be sky high and they'll genuinely go into this All-Ireland series believing they can beat anyone and that alone can often be enough to transform players.
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The biggest issue for the orange men is winning the midfield battle.
I have not been impressed with them to date and think Galway are far superior in that department.
However I dont think think Galways defence will be able to hold the Armagh forwards if they are on form.
Narrow win for Armagh
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The Galway Croke Park thing is overplayed a bit. In the last 10 years they've played there 7 times. A 1-6 record looks crap on the face of it but only once were they favourites and they were rank outsiders for 5 of them. Played Cork and Donegal soon after those two were competing in finals and Galway were in the doldrums. Lost two and won 1 v Kerry which is a decent return for most counties. Lost to Mayo last year after running out of steam and multiple injuries after an excellent first half. A great second half display from mayo on that on etbf. The one real black mark was a loss to Tipperary. In hindsight that team wasn't near the level required
The Corofin lads have spent their club careers running amok in Croker. About 8 panel members won an u20 All Ireland v Dublin there two years back. Others have won underage AI's there also. I don't think the venue will be an excuse
Even lost to Roscommon this year there and it was unexpected.
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As a Tyrone man dare I say I'm backing (and slightly hoping) our neighbours to do the business on Sunday.
To me both teams have have had the makings of a side that could challenge the top teams for a few years now but have been struggling to put the puzzle together. They seem to have both found the balance they were looking for. It could be a cracking game.
The momentum and support Armagh have will be enough to get them over the line. Their confidence will be sky high and they'll genuinely go into this All-Ireland series believing they can beat anyone and that alone can often be enough to transform players.
Yous Tyrone sh*tbags are setting us up for a fall i reckon ;) Niall Morgan and now you lol
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Not sure what to make of this match. Armagh are being bigged up a bit more than they should be imo. Don't get me wrong, good wins against (albeit terrible defending champions) Tyrone, and then a Donegal team, that even looking out of sorts, were fit to get back into the game and lead despite the bad start. The black card and penalty turned the game and then were able to coast after that. I'm just not sold on Armagh yet. For years they were fit to do it in league, but looked poor come summer when it mattered. They'll have huge momentum with their run, but really think a Galway team with good confidence, forwards in form, will be a very different thing than what they've seen this summer. It's a very different beast they'll be facing. I just think they flatter to deceive a lot. And with Rian O'Neill, a great player, but can go from the hottest of hot to the coldest of cold from one day to the next. If he has an off day, I don't see where Armagh get enough scores from. Think Galway are solid, playing well, and have 3 to 4 forward that need to be wrapped up, and can't see this being done to all of them so scores might come a bit easier to them. It'll be a battle and we'll see how Armagh go then, but I'd take Galway by 3.
I really, really hope you are wrong on that, but I don't mind telling you as an Armagh supporter and a lifelong member of the 'glass half empty brigade', your post articulated a lot of my fears ahead of this match.
This is as a good draw for Armagh (as it was for Galway) but too many are conflating a good draw with an easy draw and this match is not that. I would guess that Galway are - by some distance - the best team we will have played in the Championship this year and will represent a formidable obstacle for us.
When did Armagh last put in a performance three times in a row against decent teams?
The past is passed. Armagh are about to start a run of three great performances :-)
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You would think Armagh should be able to win this one, but you really don't know which team will turn up, Donegal 1.01 or 1.02.
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Only ask for Armagh is to bring the intensity to it like last two games, empty the tank on the field and see where it takes them after that. I'm sure Galway folk will have the same ask.
Really looking forward to it ... might not be the classic everyone expects, but defo has the potential.
It's a massive opportunity for whoever get's over the line.
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Looks like it's gonna be a wet game, Sunday's weather is rain so what impact if any will this have on either team?. It's gonna be wet for both teams so there'll be no excuses, whoever adopts to the conditions better will probably win the game. It would be great to win as the buzz around the place is amazing, the kids and families that are going to the game is great so another day out for them to remember would sit just nice but unfortunately someone has to lose and whoever it it that's life and tough.
May the best team win and hope it's a spectacle for all...genuinely i expect two great games on Sunday...Armagh by 2pts and Mayo by 1pt
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Shame about the weather if the forecast is accurate. Croke Park in the sunshine would have been nice!
Feeling a bit of trepidation about this game. We've received a fair share of plaudits on the back of the last 2 performances. It wasn't too long ago that our performances were as mixed as the weather. I hope we can keep the momentum going but the team still have a bit to prove. Galway are a dangerous opponent, fresh and hungry so offer a very different threat to Tyrone and Donegal who both carried a bit of baggage. No idea how this one will go.
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Every man and his dog heading from south Armagh on Sunday, let’s enjoy the spectacle.
Think we will win but it will be close
We need to back this team to the hilt
We have momentum let’s keep it going !
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Ive changed my mind in relation who will win about 100 times. We have the ability to win but so do Galway. Its a cliché but it could wee come down to who wants it most on the day.
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Slightly off topic... where in Dublin (city centre-ish) would ye recommend as a decent spot to watch the two Saturday quarter finals?
Have a work thing on Saturday morning but will be finished in time to watch the games.
Cheers
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The biggest issue facing us now is the level of expectation in the county and how we manage the occasion on Sunday. The last 2 matches we weren't widely tipped to come through but listening to pundits this week most of them seem to be predicting us to win. The fans can get carried away all they want, that doesn't bother me one bit but hopefully the players are able to deal with this and insulate themselves a little, since the sense of excitement has gone up a few levels for this match. It feels like its Armaghs biggest game since 2005 in terms of supporter anticipation anyway.
If they can manage all of that I'd be confident that we can get the job done in a close run game but wary that Galway are capable of producing absolutely anything as well.
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Every man and his dog heading from south Armagh on Sunday, let’s enjoy the spectacle.
Armagh may have more supporters than Dublin this weekend.
But I suppose when we have won 6 in a row the interest will fall off too.
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Slightly off topic... where in Dublin (city centre-ish) would ye recommend as a decent spot to watch the two Saturday quarter finals?
Have a work thing on Saturday morning but will be finished in time to watch the games.
Cheers
Depends if you are Northside or Southside really.
Briodys and Pipers Corner are good GAA spots just on the Luas lines are good.
Just over the river Mulligans, The Swan and the Palace would have them on too. All nice Guinness too!
On the game it seems the general theme is that the fans don't really trusts their own teams. I hope the weather holds a bit and it doesn't lash down. As a neutral it should be tasty!
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Colm O'Rourke. https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2022/0624/1306632-colm-orourkes-all-ireland-sfc-quarter-final-picks/
Galway v Armagh, Sunday, 1.45pm at Croke Park
Evenly matched, the clash of Galway and Armagh promises to be the game of the weekend.
Armagh are the real form team coming in after big wins over both Tyrone and Donegal. The latter game showcased an exciting brand of football that will attract the neutrals.
Galway were a bit similar, with their gung-ho wins, but they had a very structured defensive pattern in place in their Connacht final win over Roscommon.
I think Armagh may have the edge here.
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The biggest issue facing us now is the level of expectation in the county and how we manage the occasion on Sunday. The last 2 matches we weren't widely tipped to come through but listening to pundits this week most of them seem to be predicting us to win. The fans can get carried away all they want, that doesn't bother me one bit but hopefully the players are able to deal with this and insulate themselves a little, since the sense of excitement has gone up a few levels for this match. It feels like its Armaghs biggest game since 2005 in terms of supporter anticipation anyway.
If they can manage all of that I'd be confident that we can get the job done in a close run game but wary that Galway are capable of producing absolutely anything as well.
There is a band of Armagh fans who think that promotion to Division 1 was a bad idea and would set the team back. And there is a band who think that excitement and expectation are the same thing.
This is the business end of the season. With the game comes pressure. Handling the pressure is part of the game. Good players are ones who have the full package of skill, fitness, commitment, game intelligence and temperament in all its many forms. If we are good or want to be good we need to show we can handle the big occasions. I think we are good and that there are bigger occasions (this year or the near future) than an AI q/f. Mental preparation is key. But thats what management is there for.
Quietly confident. Only quietly mind you.
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Hard game to call, might require extra time to separate the two, hopefully the dreaded penalty shootout isn't how one side makes its exit from this championship.
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Surely Geezer is a liability for Armagh
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Surely Geezer is a liability for Armagh
Simliar could be said for Joyce with Galway. Both have surrounded themselves with what appears to be decent management teams.
Galways one and only championship win in Croke Park since 2001 was in lashing rain. Same weather forecast for Sunday and good omen for Galway?
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Best parking spots handy to Croker?
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This
Surely Geezer is a liability for Armagh
And this
Armagh are a force of social contagion
From the poster who writes this
If the match was decided on the basis of GAAboard posts, Armagh would be unbackable.
Is this an educational standards issue?
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Apparently the Portadown bonfire was lit prematurely on them last night or the night before and a few Portydown ones have been saying "I hope the Armagh fans enjoy their game" whatever they mean from that. If any of you from North Armagh are going to the game keep flags etc from your cars until you pass thru that Cesspit and alos be careful on the trains too that they don't pelt the trains with stones etc...I'm on the train myself but have the car on standby just in case...
2022 and the fact i'm typing this sh1t is unbelievable
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This is too close to call me for me. Armagh have played 12 matches against Division 1 sides (as they were at the start of the year) and I think Galway have played 2. Will that make a difference? Will the 4 week break help or hinder Galway? Who knows. I think the issue might be Armaghs consistency or lack thereof. At times they have looked brilliant this year but at others they’ve looked really ordinary. They will need something closer to the former this weekend. Anything can happen this weekend and it like the rest of the season before reminds me of why I love our games. I just wish we had a whole summer of this to look forward to.
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This
Surely Geezer is a liability for Armagh
And this
Armagh are a force of social contagion
From the poster who writes this
If the match was decided on the basis of GAAboard posts, Armagh would be unbackable.
Is this an educational standards issue?
Geezer was manager of Kildare in 2011 when they lost to Donegal.
https://youtu.be/xKZNP5Qrnfc
Donegal went on to win the all Ireland the following year.
There is great excitement in Armagh this year after years of mediocrity. I honestly do think Geezer is a weakness. Maybe he won't be exposed at this level.
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This
Surely Geezer is a liability for Armagh
And this
Armagh are a force of social contagion
From the poster who writes this
If the match was decided on the basis of GAAboard posts, Armagh would be unbackable.
Is this an educational standards issue?
Geezer was manager of Kildare in 2011 when they lost to Donegal.
https://youtu.be/xKZNP5Qrnfc
Donegal went on to win the all Ireland the following year.
There is great excitement in Armagh this year after years of mediocrity. I honestly do think Geezer is a weakness. Maybe he won't be exposed at this level.
Were you expecting Kildare to win the All Ireland back then? from what i remember Kieran McGeeney got the best out of that Kildare team and lost a few closely contested battles including that one you have linked.
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Galway unchanged team published.
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I'm worried. We always shit the togs in Croker. Hope I'm wrong. AFS2022!
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I'm worried. We always shit the togs in Croker. Hope I'm wrong. AFS2022!
Are you from Galway. Armagh's last game in Croker in January was actually rather good.
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I'm worried. We always shit the togs in Croker. Hope I'm wrong. AFS2022!
Are you from Galway. Armagh's last game in Croker in January was actually rather good.
Yep. Great league performance. Hope that stands to us.
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Apparently the Portadown bonfire was lit prematurely on them last night or the night before and a few Portydown ones have been saying "I hope the Armagh fans enjoy their game" whatever they mean from that. If any of you from North Armagh are going to the game keep flags etc from your cars until you pass thru that Cesspit and alos be careful on the trains too that they don't pelt the trains with stones etc...I'm on the train myself but have the car on standby just in case...
2022 and the fact i'm typing this sh1t is unbelievable
I just hope rumours of planned disruption to the train line are only just that and don’t come to pass. As you say, I’ve the car in standby as well at the first sign of any bother, but hopefully not. Shouldn’t even be a conversation to be had in 2022.
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Sorta coming away from my previous predictions.. Galway must be loving the hype Armagh are getting..
If Armagh were playing Mayo as Connaught champions would they be as confident?
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Sorta coming away from my previous predictions.. Galway must be loving the hype Armagh are getting..
If Armagh were playing Mayo as Connaught champions would they be as confident?
No. Mayo are proven performers in Croke Park. Galway, like Armagh, haven't been in Croke Park that much. Armagh is just glad to be there, which does not show any lack of regard for Galway.
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Galway have won an All Ireland Mayo haven’t in the past decades..
Joyce will have set them up rightly might back the draw on this
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Sorta coming away from my previous predictions.. Galway must be loving the hype Armagh are getting..
If Armagh were playing Mayo as Connaught champions would they be as confident?
They would be.
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Galway have won an All Ireland Mayo haven’t in the past decades..
Armagh have won an All Ireland after Galway, so I am not sure that is a convincing difference.
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I think a lot of people are confusing Armagh's joy of winning a few matches back to back and getting a run out in Croke Park with cockiness and disregard for their opponents Galway. Bar a few kids (without sounding sexist and a few females too) majority of us know this is a tough game that can go either way and we'll have to be firing on all cylinders to win this. The thing that has the juices flowing for people is knowing the side of the draw we're on (Derry, Clare, Armagh & Galway) and winning your quarter final is a massive chance to get to an All Ireland Final (all 4 teams are secretly thinking that).
The match ups for the big players and probably the Ref will be massive in this game...every time i think it over in my head i change my mind on who will win and by how many...I'm just going to Croke Park to enjoy the game and whatever the result i'll enjoy my day (if i can stay outta the rain) and if Armagh win...GREAT. If Galway win we'll wish them the best of luck for their Semi...Enjoy the game guys...
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Galway have won an All Ireland Mayo haven’t in the past decades..
Armagh have won an All Ireland after Galway, so I am not sure that is a convincing difference.
You’d mentioned Mayo’s being big players at Croke..
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Sorta coming away from my previous predictions.. Galway must be loving the hype Armagh are getting..
If Armagh were playing Mayo as Connaught champions would they be as confident?
Mayo have been playing at the highest level for a decade. They are a known quantity.
Galway aren't. We don't know what level they are at. It could be a feast or a famine.
On the GAAboard it's the only match where predictions are split down the middle.
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Sorta coming away from my previous predictions.. Galway must be loving the hype Armagh are getting..
If Armagh were playing Mayo as Connaught champions would they be as confident?
Mayo have been playing at the highest level for a decade. They are a known quantity.
Galway aren't. We don't know what level they are at. It could be a feast or a famine.
On the GAAboard it's the only match where predictions are split down the middle.
It isn't every day I agree with Seafoid, but that is about it.
It seems the winners will be playing Derry anyway.
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Looking at the Derry game here and the standard of Ulster football Armagh will win tomorrow pulling up.
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Looking at the Derry game here and the standard of Ulster football Armagh will win tomorrow pulling up.
Based on what?
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Looking at the Derry game here and the standard of Ulster football Armagh will win tomorrow pulling up.
I doubt Galway will be caught like a rabbit in the headlights like Clare today.
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Looking at the Derry game here and the standard of Ulster football Armagh will win tomorrow pulling up.
I doubt Galway will be caught like a rabbit in the headlights like Clare today.
No idea how we will do tomorrow but in all honesty Clare are a really average team.
Was anyone really surprised by this result today?
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A grandson of the late Dominic McGlinchey, former chief of staff of the INLA, was on the Galway minor team that beat Derry today .
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Looking at the Derry game here and the standard of Ulster football Armagh will win tomorrow pulling up.
I doubt Galway will be caught like a rabbit in the headlights like Clare today.
The problem the Super 8s had was that there weren't 8 super teams in the country. There still isn't.
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Looking at the Derry game here and the standard of Ulster football Armagh will win tomorrow pulling up.
I doubt Galway will be caught like a rabbit in the headlights like Clare today.
The problem the Super 8s had was that there weren't 8 super teams in the country. There still isn't.
...... and never has been in the history of the GAA.
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First 15 minutes going to be huge, think if either team gets a good start they'll be hard pulled back. The pessimist in me always errs on the side of caution so not full of confidence.
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Looking at the Derry game here and the standard of Ulster football Armagh will win tomorrow pulling up.
I doubt Galway will be caught like a rabbit in the headlights like Clare today.
The problem the Super 8s had was that there weren't 8 super teams in the country. There still isn't.
...... and never has been in the history of the GAA.
Not even 6
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Looking at the Derry game here and the standard of Ulster football Armagh will win tomorrow pulling up.
I doubt Galway will be caught like a rabbit in the headlights like Clare today.
The problem the Super 8s had was that there weren't 8 super teams in the country. There still isn't.
...... and never has been in the history of the GAA.
Not even 6
Around the early '90's Circa 1988 to 1993 - Cork, Meath, Donegal, Derry, Down and Dublin
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A grandson of the late Dominic McGlinchey, former chief of staff of the INLA, was on the Galway minor team that beat Derry today .
We are a community sport. There will always be links to all parts of the community including psychotic assholes
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Oooh look. An internet tough guy 😃
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A grandson of the late Dominic McGlinchey, former chief of staff of the INLA, was on the Galway minor team that beat Derry today .
We are a community sport. There will always be links to all parts of the community including psychotic assholes
Father has a gym in Galway. Sound lad.
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A grandson of the late Dominic McGlinchey, former chief of staff of the INLA, was on the Galway minor team that beat Derry today .
We are a community sport. There will always be links to all parts of the community including psychotic assholes
Father has a gym in Galway. Sound lad.
Great people and a great family.
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Looking at the Derry game here and the standard of Ulster football Armagh will win tomorrow pulling up.
I doubt Galway will be caught like a rabbit in the headlights like Clare today.
The problem the Super 8s had was that there weren't 8 super teams in the country. There still isn't.
Dublin Kerry Mayo, Derry Galway Armagh, Tyrone, Monaghan Donegal maybe the Rossies- it’s a shite format but the teams are there if the draw is kind. Cork amd Clare got lucky draws they’d no placr being in QF
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Today's match could be the start of a series over the next few years. Same for the semi.
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Today's match could be the start of a series over the next few years. Same for the semi.
Both teams are far too flakey to be saying something like that
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Comer looks a bit shook since that clash with the Armagh keeper.
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Who has wind this half or is it a factor?
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Who has wind this half or is it a factor?
commentary said armagh
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Rafferty very lucky to get away with that
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Jesus shocking to give a free for that
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Jesus shocking to give a free for that
Worse still it was called by the linesman!
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Armagh well on top, because Galway are not marking certain players. That long ball fball from both teams would be well eat up by Dublin.
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Armagh winning Midfield both kickouts, strange given the height Galway got around the middle. Galway on top past 15mins.
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Good game. Armagh played some lovely stuff, but Galway have got to grips with it in the last ten minutes.
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Finnerty starting to cause problems, Walsh non-existent at the minute.
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Big push on there by Galway.
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Stupidist yellow card ever, what an idiot.
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Armagh just that wee bit too slack marking wise at the back.
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We have reverted back to Ballybofey tactics! Galway lying down any time we get a bit of momentum.
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Galway starting to edge Midfield on break ball, Campbell keeping Armagh in it. Comer, Walsh, Conroy, O'Neill, all the stars are all fairly quite.
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Any Armagh score Galway man goes down.
Campbell is good. Galway, unfortunately, seem just that bit better.
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Armagh corner bck lucky not to see the line there after that stupidity, total blindside, even though it was only a shoulder.
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Armagh corner bck lucky not to see the line there after that stupidity, total blindside, even though it was only a shoulder.
Dirty dirty play.
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Cheap shot
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Thought Morgan had cut that cr@p out this year....obv not
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Ffs. That’s a disgraceful decision.
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Terrible reffing, not a red
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It’s dangerous play he connected with the head … straight red!!
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That's a yellow, not a red, he was late. OK on replay its seems he hit hit square on shoulder/ elbow, still harsh.
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Ffs. That’s a disgraceful decision.
No way. It was a very dangerous challenge. Yes he was going for a shoulder but he missed it and ended up as a frontal challenge.
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Think the blood swayed the decision. The shoulder was frontal but didnt look like it caught him high. The head to head contact was accidental and thats what caused the blood.
On replay showed there he did catch him in the lower jaw
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That sending off could prove to be the games turning point. 64 mins played Galway 1-14 to 0-13 ahead.
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Ref got it right. Straight red
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Somebody got send of that maybe 2 yrs ago, was Mooney of Down involved?. Reality is, Morgan probably should been on the line at this stage. Rory Gugan great first half, very poor 2nd half.
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Think the blood swayed the decision. The shoulder was frontal but didnt look like it caught him high. The head to head contact was accidental and thats what caused the blood
Maybe… would like to see it again from a better angle but if you go in recklessly and cause a head injury I think it should be a red.
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Looking very bad on a replay from another angle.
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Just seen the most recent replay.. yep was a red, real time didn’t look it but that replay they showed it was
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That's a yellow, not a red, he was late. OK on replay its seems he hit hit square on shoulder/ elbow, still harsh.
Identical to the tackle on Eoghan McLaughlin tackle by Small last year - straight red all day long.
Plus, Jarly og should have got black for the trip immediately afterwards.
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Armagh have time to get points. Should be plenty of added time, but they are going looking for goals.
Although a moot point if Galway keep winning the ball
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Unless a duty of care when tackling is implied in the rule book (and I don’t think it is) then that’s not even a booking let alone a red card.
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Game is over unfortunately.
Galway be hard beat.
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That's a yellow, not a red, he was late. OK on replay its seems he hit hit square on shoulder/ elbow, still harsh.
Identical to the tackle on Eoghan McLaughlin tackle by Small last year - straight red all day long.
Plus, Jarly og should have got black for the trip immediately afterwards.
Nah I don’t think it was.
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Geezer clueless in croker again. ::) Should resign after the match
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That's a yellow, not a red, he was late. OK on replay its seems he hit hit square on shoulder/ elbow, still harsh.
Identical to the tackle on Eoghan McLaughlin tackle by Small last year - straight red all day long.
Plus, Jarly og should have got black for the trip immediately afterwards.
Trip accidental, just bet by speed and skills.
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Ref got it right. Reckless, dangerous challenge.
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Armagh have time to get points. Should be plenty of added time, but they are going looking for goals.
They've spent day fisting over bar when goals on. Opposite of Derry.
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Getting exactly what we deserve, too negative. Hopefully the end of McGeeney.
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Conroy has went down in my estimations there. Shocking play acting.
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I don’t think Armagh are negative so much as getting destroyed at midfield.
Goal armagh.
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Ref got it right. Reckless, dangerous challenge.
Looked very harsh. Need to see it again.
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Doesn't take Armagh g long to revert to type. Thugs
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Armagh losing the rag abit tackle wise.
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I don’t think Armagh are negative so much as getting destroyed at midfield.
Goal armagh.
Galway are just better in reality.
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Terrible reffing, not a red
Clear red. Shocking.
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WTF was O’Neill at?
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Walsh should got a yellow there.
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Jesus lads!!
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Galway keeper need shooting!
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Armagh definitely need work on their discipline but Galway at a while bit of play acting too.
That was not a free out.
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Conroy has went down in my estimations there. Shocking play acting.
looked like a finger in the eye (accidental though).
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I do enjoy how after 30 years of coaches trying to ruin football, a long ball into the corridor of uncertainty is still such a brilliant tactic.
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It was a free out!
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Big balls here.
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Jesus
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What a game of football lads!
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Armagh in a row, surprise surprise
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Galway acting c***ts there.. Hopefully Armagh kick the f**k out of them in extra time
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Jez, Galway sh1te the bed there!
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disgraceful scenes
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Comer is a p***k but someone was gouging at his eyes there.
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Bit of eye gouging!!
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Armagh sub hefty ban. tr**p
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Who is the dirty tr**p in the body warmer had his hands in the eyes?
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Armagh have been thuggish all game.
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Who is the dirty tr**p in the body warmer had his hands in the eyes?
He had a punch wound up before he went out of shot just after that as well!!
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I can make a case for most things happening due to the heat of the moment. But gouging. No. Gouging is the act of a complete ****. Should be a 12 month ban minimum. Disgraceful.
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Who is the dirty tr**p in the body warmer had his hands in the eyes?
probably a hanger on
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Armagh have been thuggish all game.
Aye it was the Armagh keeper that went into Comer twice trying to kick the ball out… away on sir
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Absolutely disgraceful. That gouging gouger should be banned for life.
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f**k me, Galway had the ball in the corner and then let a loose pass go!
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What the f**k was Shane Walsh at??
The mind boggles!
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Bit of eye gouging!!
Seems to be.
If so, sc**bag should get a good long ban.
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Some drama, the one worry Galway supporters had was towards Gleeson in goal he was Armagh way back into the game but so poor that Galway didn't close that game out when in total control of it and man advantage.
Will be suspensions with those scenes at full time.
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Galway by far the better team in the 2nd Half, how Armagh finished level I never know.
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Expect 4 Tyrone men to be sent off in the 2nd half.
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Armagh have been thuggish all game.
certainly been pretty thuggish the last 20 mins when it looked like they were gone.
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Who is the dirty tr**p in the body warmer had his hands in the eyes?
Comer is certainly no saint but that tr**p needs a very long ban whoever he is.
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There was an Armagh boy in a body warmer there who will be in big trouble.
Honestly think comer provoked a lot there but gouging etc. Not good.
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Flaky Galway, goalkeeper awful. As regards thuggish behaviour from Armagh, what do people expect, a dog barks & all that.
Very entertaining all the same. Rian O Neill take a bow for holding nerve.
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Shocking game management from Galway.
That cross field pass from Walsh was ridiculous, in the last minute, from a player of his experience.
There'll be a few lads looking a representation before the semi-final.
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O'Neill deserves the Sam Maguire given to him for kicking that point under that pressure.
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galway threw it away should have kept it in corner
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The goalkeeper passed the ball out blind with a Galway defender standing beside him.,but the reason Galway haven't won th, is Walsh cross field pass that went nowhere near the player.
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Shocking game management from Galway.
That cross field pass from Walsh was ridiculous, in the last minute, from a player of his experience.
There'll be a few lads looking a representation before the semi-final.
And each one of them will get off.
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Fergal Logan will still have a say in this Championship yet!!
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If there is any consistency then there be loads of red cards for contributing to a melee when both teams come out.
Derry are the big winners here.
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Galway just did a Roscommon on it, very similar flaky teams.
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O'Neill deserves the Sam Maguire given to him for kicking that point under that pressure.
Think the ref let him away with a few sneaky yards.
Great kick all the same.
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spillane tight
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Who was that guy gouging? Not even togged. Bad rip whoever he is.
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Spillane about to have a coronary here!!
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There'll be some clean up of 'hanger-ons' now...hopefully.
Clear the side-line.
Would cut all this out.
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Who was that guy gouging? Not even togged. Bad rip whoever he is.
Tiernan Kelly be getting some ban
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Deserves a few years.
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Spillane ;D
He spoke the truth in fairness.
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The goalkeeper passed the ball out blind with a Galway defender standing beside him.,but the reason Galway haven't won th, is Walsh cross field pass that went nowhere near the player.
That was a pass!???!?! I thought it was a shot that he sliced horrifically
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Ah for f**k sake
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what time does kerry v mayo start now is it 5pm
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Who was that guy gouging? Not even togged. Bad rip whoever he is.
Tiernan Kelly be getting some ban
;)
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Spillane about to have a coronary here!!
Agreed he needs to shut up.
I have said it before, all he wants is sound bites.
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On the football....Galway undone by 2 high balls....cheap cheap goals.....McGeeney should have Armagh raining them in on top of the keeper in ET.
Can't imagine how Joyce will get their heads right after that collapse
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Galway should have been out of sight. Armagh looked lost in HQ. Likely take a thumping if they get through
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Eye gouging to my mind goes beyond a disciplinary matter. It is a criminal matter and should be dealt with as such. Shocking and I actually was initially hoping for Armagh to win.
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Trouble with a Capital T - Horselips - Playing over the PA in Croke Park! ;D
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But Kelly long term injured, he even on the match panel, if not he shouldn't be there.
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https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2022/0626/1306940-all-ireland-sfc-quarter-final-galway-v-armagh-updates/
A look back at the disgraceful scenes at the end of the 70+ minutes shows Damien Comer being eye-gouged. Ref David Coldrick it would seem is collecting information from his officials and umpires.
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Comer initiated the thing. Excuses nothing but he did.
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Eye gouging to my mind goes beyond a disciplinary matter. It is a criminal matter and should be dealt with as such. Shocking and I actually was initially hoping for Armagh to win.
I really can’t understand how the rule book hasn’t been updated for it.
Immediate 12 month ban for an attempted eye gouge. This blight on the game will disappear within a week.
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Much bigger loss for Galway
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Kelly was very disciplined. (Galway Kelly). Really harsh on him.
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Only we could make a balls of a 6 point lead at the death
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Comer initiated the thing. Excuses nothing but he did.
No Armagh lads over at him. They started it.
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Kelly was very disciplined. (Galway Kelly). Really harsh on him.
Feel sorry for Kelly, was having a good game. Not sure of his involvement?
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Cop out from Coldrick with only the 2 cards.
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Not sure why those lads got red, any idea?
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Kelly seems like a gentleman, shakes hand with Armagh no 13. Galway more of a footballing team.
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Ref had to send someone off I suppose
Is it 14 or 15 aside here?
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Kelly was very disciplined. (Galway Kelly). Really harsh on him.
Feel sorry for Kelly, was having a good game. Not sure of his involvement?
He's a huge loss. Galway got the raw end of that. Not sure why they were singled out.
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Can't imagine there are too many neutrals left supporting Armagh at this stage.
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Aidan Nugent and Seán Kelly have received red cards.
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Hard to tell in a rumble of 40 men. I find men running in, is intenional making it difficult to pick out troublemakers if it stayed between 3/4 persons. I think Kelly dragged the man eye gouging Comer and took a swing at him., as they became isolated from the crowd and easier to pick out. hard to tell though.
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Hard to tell in a rumble of 40 men. I find men running in, is intenional making it difficult to pick out troublemakers if it stayed between 3/4 persons. I think Kelly dragged the man eye gouging Comer and took a swing at him., as they became isolated from the crowd and easier to pick out. hard to tell though.
Yes can just about see this happening from that main camera angle
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Can't imagine there are too many neutrals left supporting Armagh at this stage.
I'm still 50:50 to be honest. Have to hand to Armagh coming back like that although Galway really needed to defend better
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Kelly seems like a gentleman, shakes hand with Armagh no 13. Galway more of a footballing team.
Yeah, seemed genuinely upset about the eye gouge situation.
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Don’t think Galway Kelly swung. He had plenty of opportunity to though.
Honestly think comer a big factor in instigating that whole thing.
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Don’t think Galway Kelly swung. He had plenty of opportunity to though.
Honestly think comer a big factor in instigating that whole thing.
You could be right. If he'd simply gone down the tunnel it probably wouldn't have kicked off
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Soupy Campbell allowed 10+ steps all game
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Issuing suspensions and making them stick another matter, Armagh love appealing, if Galway win they surely appeal kelly, would been a benefit to Galway if the keeper had been red card.
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Issuing suspensions and making them stick another matter, Armagh love appealing, if Galway win they surely appeal kelly, would been a benefit to Galway if the keeper had been red card.
Is this kelly serving his suspension or will that carry through to another game?
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Comer is no angel, got away with a mild box to the face of an Armagh man at start of extra time. Finnerty having a great game.
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Don’t think Galway Kelly swung. He had plenty of opportunity to though.
Honestly think comer a big factor in instigating that whole thing.
You could be right. If he'd simply gone down the tunnel it probably wouldn't have kicked off
Teams will have to use a changing room in Hogan Stand and one in the Cusack Stand from now on.
That would cut this carry on out.
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Hard to tell in a rumble of 40 men. I find men running in, is intenional making it difficult to pick out troublemakers if it stayed between 3/4 persons. I think Kelly dragged the man eye gouging Comer and took a swing at him., as they became isolated from the crowd and easier to pick out. hard to tell though.
If that was Kelly grabbed him he deserves a medal not a card!
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Comer is no angel, got away with a mild box to the face of an Armagh man at start of extra time. Finnerty having a great game.
Agreed on both. Thought that could have been red. Finnerty borderline the difference between the teams.
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Stay classy, all that booing u think Dublin were playing lol.
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Who was that guy gouging? Not even togged. Bad rip whoever he is.
Tiernan Kelly be getting some ban
tr**p.
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Disgraceful scenes. He should be banned for a long long time.
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Issuing suspensions and making them stick another matter, Armagh love appealing, if Galway win they surely appeal kelly, would been a benefit to Galway if the keeper had been red card.
Is this kelly serving his suspension or will that carry through to another game?
Still carries. Mad GAA rules.
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Half time in extra time. Armagh 2-16 Galway 1-20.
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Galway managed that first half of extra time well, really took the sting out of the game.
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I can’t see how he won’t be. His face will be all over social media, media etc etc. Suspect he’ll be closing down his social media accounts soon.
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But why is he even there if long term injured and not on match day panel.
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Hard to tell in a rumble of 40 men. I find men running in, is intenional making it difficult to pick out troublemakers if it stayed between 3/4 persons. I think Kelly dragged the man eye gouging Comer and took a swing at him., as they became isolated from the crowd and easier to pick out. hard to tell though.
If that was Kelly grabbed him he deserves a medal not a card!
Kelly trying to break it up. Galway sub hit Armagh Kelly then. He deserves a medal alright for the box.
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Stay classy, all that booing u think Dublin were playing lol.
Derry have been doing the same at both the UIster final and Vs Clare.
Maybe it's time to accept it, adds to the atmosphere?
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Spillane is worse than a drunk in a bar.
Just boorish.
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Even for what's done, I prefer gaa punishment properly enforced in relation to the incident and not a nasty verbal assault on twitter or Facebook.
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Armagh have got away with stealing some amount of steps at frees.
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Comer is no angel, got away with a mild box to the face of an Armagh man at start of extra time. Finnerty having a great game.
Agreed on both. Thought that could have been red. Finnerty borderline the difference between the teams.
Best player on field, thing keeping Armagh in the game is the difference in both goalkeepers. Armagh keeper acting as extra man, Galway keeper is huge liability.
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Jesus that is awful keeping.
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3 shocking goals Galway give away.
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Jesus that is awful keeping.
terrible
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Galway Keeper ................. WTF
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Shocking goalkeeping
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Comer is no angel, got away with a mild box to the face of an Armagh man at start of extra time. Finnerty having a great game.
Agreed on both. Thought that could have been red. Finnerty borderline the difference between the teams.
Best player on field, thing keeping Armagh in the game is the difference in both goalkeepers. Armagh keeper acting as extra man, Galway keeper is huge liability.
You're not wrong!
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Galway keeper has gifted those orange tramps three goals.
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Galway the better team by quite a bit but if you have a goalkeeper who can't handle a high ball it's going to be a long afternoon.
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Galway have won an All Ireland Mayo haven’t in the past decades..
Joyce will have set them up rightly might back the draw on this
Just saying… in fairness was refereeing so haven’t seen it.
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Never seen a keeper so dodgy under high ball.
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This is some game
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Our keeper (Derry) great under a high ball but his short kick outs dogdy.
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I can see the tactic for Armagh. Horse her in to f**k
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Galway under a high ball. Oh dear
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Galway are dodgy as f**k under a high ball Jesus they haven’t a clue what to do!
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It's a exciting game just due to goalkeeping errors, Galway to me a way better team. It could go to penalties.
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Yeah agreed with that. Derry should want armagh
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It's a exciting game just due to goalkeeping errors, Galway to me a way better team. It could go to penalties.
💯
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It's fantastic entertainment, wonderful championship game, best in years.
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Armagh gonna win it.
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Dead men walking everywhere. Bonkers game of football.
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Shocking goalkeeping
I'd say his confidence is shot.
Imagine he comes good in penalties, if it goes that far!
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this is a smash and grab
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What's the gardas number, I want to report a robbery.
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It’s like Vietnam!
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Walsh for the great player he is, goes missing in big games.He have to his mark on the penalties now. The
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a penalty shootout
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Galway still can't win a knockout game in Croker!
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Walsh for the great player he is, goes missing in big games.He have to his mark on the penalties now. The
His stupid cross field pass cost them the win in normal time
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Definitely the fairest way to finish this !
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From a Derry point of view I def think we gave a better chance against Armagh though don't want to play them (Toll bridge mess) Galway I think beat Derry.
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Unbelievable Jeff!!
No team deserves to win or lose this.
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Surely if that lad who keeps dropping high balls into his net has been playing goals his whole life, then that’s advantage Galway
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Would prefer a replay than a penalty shootout to reach the AI semi final.
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From a Derry point of view I def think we gave a better chance against Armagh though don't want to play them (Toll bridge mess) Galway I think beat Derry.
Wouldn’t fear either team but I don’t think it’ll matter there’s literally nothing between them!
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would having the first team to score 3 points after normal extra time be better than penalties
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That Armagh eye gouger boy looking a bit solemn there. Likely realises what he has done.
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............Wait and see - the Galway Keeper will end up being the hero and all will be forgiven!
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Would prefer a replay than a penalty shootout to reach the AI semi final.
Agreed
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That Armagh eye gouger boy looking a bit solemn there. Likely realises what he has done.
Probably doesn't realise the whole whoha over it.
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............Wait and see - the Galway Keeper will end up being the hero and all will be forgiven!
Stranger things has happened. Hasn't he played soccer.
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............Wait and see - the Galway Keeper will end up being the hero and all will be forgiven!
I can see that happening!!
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But all drawn games should be replayed, like the good Ole days but condensed season makes it impossible.
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What a game.
The real question is how many pages will this thread be at this time tomorro 😊
*grabs popcorn*
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Would prefer a replay than a penalty shootout to reach the AI semi final.
Agreed
why not the first team to score 3 points
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What's the delay?
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Definitely getting our money’s worth today in Croke Park today,Kerry and Mayo has a lot to line up to!
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Rafferty getting close but Galway penalties good.
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Ah balls that is that.
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Unlucky there hitting the post, was a good penalty
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Justice
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The poor Armagh ones will get soaked on the way home now
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Not sure about justice but the marginally better side won by a marginal margin
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is next game still 4.45 or has it been put back to 5pm because of penalties.
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Justice
Eh??
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Great game, replay a more deserved result, but the better team won if u take the bad mistakes out of it.
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Galway by far the better team ........but boy did they fall over the line.
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Justice done
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Absolute scenes.
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Galway fall over the line in a match they really should have closed out on 70 minutes when 6 ahead with the man advantage.
Hard luck Armagh dreadful way to exit a championship.
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What’s the justice thing? I’m not getting it
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Best footballing side on the day are in the next round.
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Soupy Campbell allowed 10+ steps all game
It didn't help him in the penalties. He'll always let you down in clutch positions.
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Spillane called both sets of players Gladiators! He's not wrong there, but not in the context he's talking about! ;D
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Well done Galway. Best of luck to Derry in the semi.
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What’s the justice thing? I’m not getting it
A Tyrone dick being a Tyrone dick.
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Hard luck to Armagh and to all the fans on the board. Beidh lá eile ag an Buckfast. Maybe post Geezer.
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What a game. Credit to both teams for a fantastic spectacle.
Horrible way to lose, Soupy prob best player for Armagh and Turbitt scoring 1-1 - you would have had money on them both to score.
Galway slightly better team overall but Derry will be licking tbier lips at how much panic the high ball out into the Galway back line.
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Soupy Campbell allowed 10+ steps all game
It didn't help him in the penalties. He'll always let you down in clutch positions.
Faceless keyboard warrior calls out player who had the balls to step up and take one
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Best team won but they have serious limitations.
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GAA HQ should hang their heads In shame by allowing that penalty nonsense to decide a game.
We all should have had a replay to forward to next weekend.
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Right which Galway men are getting suspended for the semi 8)
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Walsh for the great player he is, goes missing in big games.He have to his mark on the penalties now. The
In fairness he was good today, but that was complete and utter madness.
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GAA HQ should hang their heads In shame by allowing that penalty nonsense to decide a game.
We all should have had a replay to forward to next weekend.
Pure waffle.
Both teams knew, that extra-time and then penalties.
No excuses.
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I was cheering for Armagh for the 70 mins, but well done to Galway.
Great entertainment, pity about the row
Super excitement at the end.
Galway the better team overall I felt and deserving winners.
But their keeper needs to learn how to deal with a high ball!
And they’ve more in the locker from Shane Walsh, albeit they’d a good few lads who played the very best they can.
Would slightly fancy Derry for the semi.
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Not matter who's suspended, they all get off as usual.
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Justice
Such a wander you are gives no credence to the gaa
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GAA HQ should hang their heads In shame by allowing that penalty nonsense to decide a game.
We all should have had a replay to forward to next weekend.
Then you'd be calling them the greedy grab all association and gurning about the cost of another day out for fans. Just no pleasing some people.
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Right which Galway men are getting suspended for the semi 8)
Comer 100%
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GAA HQ should hang their heads In shame by allowing that penalty nonsense to decide a game.
We all should have had a replay to forward to next weekend.
why not the first to 3 points
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Actually think the penalties were a good way to end the game.
Overall, Galway were the better team and deserved to go through.
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What a game. Credit to both teams for a fantastic spectacle.
Horrible way to lose, Soupy prob best player for Armagh and Turbitt scoring 1-1 - you would have had money on them both to score.
Galway slightly better team overall but Derry will be licking tbier lips at how much panic the high ball out into the Galway back line.
Did anyone see that Campbell was cramping up quite badly just before the end of extra time. Did he slip just before that penalty or cramp?
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Shouldn't let the full-time shenanigans overshadow what was one the game of the year.
Unreal by both teams and no reason Armagh couldn't push on from this with Oisin o'N eyc back next year.
Ulster 2023 will be a minefield.
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GAA HQ should hang their heads In shame by allowing that penalty nonsense to decide a game.
We all should have had a replay to forward to next weekend.
why not the first to 3 points
Jez, do you want Kerry and Mayo to play at all this evening?
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Bollix to that, what an awful way to decide All-Ireland quarter final. Galway in fairness to them were the better team in normal time and only for a dodgy keeper Armagh wouldn't have found a way back into the match.
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GAA HQ should hang their heads In shame by allowing that penalty nonsense to decide a game.
We all should have had a replay to forward to next weekend.
why not the first to 3 points
Jez, do you want Kerry and Mayo to play at all this evening?
maybe you could make it first to 2 that way it still ends with a goal but would not be as cruel if there was golden point
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5, if not 6, teams could win ulster next year
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GAA HQ should hang their heads In shame by allowing that penalty nonsense to decide a game.
We all should have had a replay to forward to next weekend.
why not the first to 3 points
Jez, do you want Kerry and Mayo to play at all this evening?
maybe you could make it first to 2 that way it still ends with a goal but would not be as cruel if there was golden point
i'd go 1st to pull out gap of 2 points or more
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Can't help but feel Armagh deserved to get bet on penalties. Brutal behaviour yet again.
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GAA HQ should hang their heads In shame by allowing that penalty nonsense to decide a game.
We all should have had a replay to forward to next weekend.
I’m currently on a crusade to help people understand penalty shootouts.
When you can shift your mindset from one in which the “loser” doesn't deserve to exit, to the (right) mindset in which a team that doesn’t win a game has no right to proceed, it’s a lot easier to take a penalty shoot out loss.
If you want to proceed, win a game. But if you don’t win, don’t expect a second chance.
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Its prob been said earlier (not readin back 10pgs at this stage lol) but what about next score wins?! Imagine the tension while that plays out
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Armagh always seem to let themselves down.
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Great game. Fair to play to both teams. Hard to lose that way. Still a good year for Armagh all said and done so can take consolation in that.
Pity bout the melee, will be a big talking point I’m sure. Didn’t see what kicked it all off so hard to comment.
Can’t see Galway getting by Derry. Just too flaky.
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Bollix to that, what an awful way to decide All-Ireland quarter final. Galway in fairness to them were the better team in normal time and only for a dodgy keeper Armagh wouldn't have found a way back into the match.
There are finals of much bigger competitions across the globe decided like that. Stop being so precious.
I don't care about finals in other sports. GAA didn't have to ape a foreign sport to decide its important knock out matches.
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Its prob been said earlier (not readin back 10pgs at this stage lol) but what about next score wins?! Imagine the tension while that plays out
i said they should do first to 2 or 3 points wins
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Great game. Fair to play to both teams. Hard to lose that way. Still a good year for Armagh all said and done so can take consolation in that.
Pity bout the melee, will be a big talking point I’m sure. Didn’t see what kicked it all off so hard to comment.
Can’t see Galway getting by Derry. Just too flaky.
Find a less dodgy keeper and I'd give Galway a right good chance of beating Derry.
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Bollix to that, what an awful way to decide All-Ireland quarter final. Galway in fairness to them were the better team in normal time and only for a dodgy keeper Armagh wouldn't have found a way back into the match.
There are finals of much bigger competitions across the globe decided like that. Stop being so precious.
I don't care about finals in other sports. GAA didn't have to ape a foreign sport to decide its important knock out matches.
More tears please.
Are you 12 years old
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5, if not 6, teams could win ulster next year
You think?
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foreign sport but they worshipped a foreign religion
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There might be an All Ireland in this Galway team, good forwards , becoming battle hardened
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Armagh always seem to let themselves down.
Is it an Armagh thing or a McGeeney thing?
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Its prob been said earlier (not readin back 10pgs at this stage lol) but what about next score wins?! Imagine the tension while that plays out
Probably could have worked today but it’d be a hoor if you were the team playing into a hurricane.
True tbh
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I think they should ban Galway this year and just let Derry through to the final.
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Armagh always seem to let themselves down.
Is it an Armagh thing or a McGeeney thing?
I dunno at this stage, there's nonsense behaviour in every game they're involved in.
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Lazy by the GAA regarding penalties, simply copying the deciding method from another sport, a method that is outdated aswell. Could have thought outside the box and came up with a method closer related to the way the game is played.
I wanted Armagh to win, but they benefited from getting the full 15 for extra time. Surely these kind of rules need changed as a team is only temporarily punished for a red card.
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5, if not 6, teams could win ulster next year
Armagh could be missing a few for the first round after the investigation of todays shenanigans.
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They could had 2 red cards to be honest with Morgan hit on Walsh.
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Armagh always seem to let themselves down.
Is it an Armagh thing or a McGeeney thing?
It’s a Nordie thing.
Delighted Galway won.
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A hard one to take for Armagh but could ultimately be the making of both teams. Galway could power on this year and when the dust settles Armagh will have a superb starting point for next year. There were lads coming on in normal time there I'd never heard tell of, so we really were stretched thin. I hope the full management team recommit. It'll be another 50/50 match in the semi.
A good weekend for Galway (& Tyrone ones by the looks of it).
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Did Comer strike?? Surely whoever got men in headlock will get a ban.
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Did Comer strike?? Surely whoever got men in headlock will get a ban.
Nothing to see here. Clean slates.
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Lazy by the GAA regarding penalties, simply copying the deciding method from another sport, a method that is outdated aswell. Could have thought outside the box and came up with a method closer related to the way the game is played.
Like?
Most consecutive hand passes?
Penalties are very much a part of Gaelic football.
Penalty shoot-outs aren't though.
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Justice
Such a wander you are gives no credence to the gaa
I enjoy Sunday drinking too.
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Armagh always seem to let themselves down.
Is it an Armagh thing or a McGeeney thing?
It’s a Nordie thing.
Delighted Galway won.
They’re saints in Offaly apparently https://www.leinsterexpress.ie/news/gaa/673461/five-players-sent-off-after-ugly-brawl-in-midlands-gaa-senior-gaelic-football-game.html
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Why did RTE continually cut to McGeeney, Donaghy and McKeever as if we were watching the great minds of the GAA in action? Have any of them won anything of note as managers?
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Penalties are a good way to finish it and I’ll say that even if Tyrone end up losing one in the future. The same Armagh ones whinging about penalties tonight no doubt were jumping for joy when the current team playing out of Ibrox lost a recent Euro final on pens.
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Ibrox has nothing to do with it
45s might be more suitable, there are generally more 45s in a game then penalties.
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Ibrox has nothing to do with it
45s might be more suitable, there are generally more 45s in a game then penalties.
Sour grapes.
As I said before, every team knows about extra-time and penalties before the game.
Excuses.
Ironicallly, on 70 mins, Armagh people would have bitten your hand off if you offered them penalties then.
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A replay after extra time is the best way! There would be some craic all week in the build up. Galway were the better team and deserved to win though I thought they got some frees alot easier then armagh did.
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No sour grapes. Armagh could have missed a 45 also.
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Ibrox has nothing to do with it
45s might be more suitable, there are generally more 45s in a game then penalties.
Many more players would be more comfortable kicking a penalty than a 45.
Not too many would score a 45 at the end of extra time.
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A replay after extra time is the best way! There would be some craic all week in the build up. Galway were the better team and deserved to win though I thought they got some frees alot easier then armagh did.
Where we squeezing that into? Where, and will it be on TV? Next weekend is for hurling. And players know next weekend is off for them regardless. We all knew it was on the day, officials, players, supporters. We deal with it, as that's the calendar we wanted
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Ibrox has nothing to do with it
45s might be more suitable, there are generally more 45s in a game then penalties.
Many more players would be more comfortable kicking a penalty than a 45.
Not too many would score a 45 at the end of extra time.
And not many players can take one. It's a rare skill. Penalties can be taken by practically any player. They make more sense
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A replay after extra time is the best way! There would be some craic all week in the build up. Galway were the better team and deserved to win though I thought they got some frees alot easier then armagh did.
Where we squeezing that into? Where, and will it be on TV? Next weekend is for hurling. And players know next weekend is off for them regardless. We all knew it was on the day, officials, players, supporters. We deal with it, as that's the calendar we wanted
Who is we? It's certainly not the calender I would have wanted. We managed to have replays for years with no issue. Regardless the re-introdiction of the super 8 next year proves there is room for more games under the current "calender"
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Ibrox has nothing to do with it
45s might be more suitable, there are generally more 45s in a game then penalties.
Many more players would be more comfortable kicking a penalty than a 45.
Exactly. And players wrecked after extra time trying to kick from 45. Don't be ridiculous.
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Ibrox has nothing to do with it
45s might be more suitable, there are generally more 45s in a game then penalties.
Many more players would be more comfortable kicking a penalty than a 45.
Not too many would score a 45 at the end of extra time.
Yip. It’s pretty simple. They want to finish on the day due to the shorter season. I’ve yet to see a suggestion that betters penalties for that.
Kicking 45s ffs.
they can finish it on the day by having the first to two or three points after nomal extra time i cant believe the gaa have not thought of that or maybe they have.
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Ibrox has nothing to do with it
45s might be more suitable, there are generally more 45s in a game then penalties.
Many more players would be more comfortable kicking a penalty than a 45.
Not too many would score a 45 at the end of extra time.
Yip. It’s pretty simple. They want to finish on the day due to the shorter season. I’ve yet to see a suggestion that betters penalties for that.
Kicking 45s ffs.
they can finish it on the day by having the first to two or three points after nomal extra time i cant believe the gaa have not thought of that or maybe they have.
What happens if one team has a strong wind?
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A hard one to take for Armagh but could ultimately be the making of both teams. Galway could power on this year and when the dust settles Armagh will have a superb starting point for next year. There were lads coming on in normal time there I'd never heard tell of, so we really were stretched thin. I hope the full management team recommit. It'll be another 50/50 match in the semi.
A good weekend for Galway (& Tyrone ones by the looks of it).
Take off the orange glasses mate. We scored 2 flukey late goals courtesy of a flakey keeper. Otherwise we were miles off Galway and could've been going home bate out the gate by 8 or 9. Geezer has to go
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Alternate possession each starting from a GK kickout. team A start from their GK, once the ball goes out over the end line, point, goal they loose possession. If the other team turn them over they get an opportunity to score at the other end, but it needs to go dead. If team A score first, team B need to score to keep it going, if turned over Team A need to kill the ball by kicking wide or score.
Could be a great way to get a winner and it would be a team effort to win
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If it’s finish on the day, I’ve yet to see a better answer to penalties to finish a game in any team sport in the world.
Keep playing periods of extra time maybe but players already out on their feet.
With penalties it’s the exact same for both players and teams.
Some of the alternatives been suggested…….FFS.
Interesting that Galway had practiced for them and played them at end of a few challenge games. That’s some preparation and the teams have accepted them. Pat Spillane just thinks that everything some be the same as the 80s when Kerry reigned supreme.
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Some 3 hours of drama and the fight thrown in.
Great entertainment.
Spillane and others decrying penalties obviously want Club games banished to October so they can have replays.
Hard way to lose but with 5 minutes to go Armagh would have gladly taken penalties.
Galway might need to change their goalie though.
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The mask slipped again. Same old Armagh. They could start a fight over the drop of a hat. I wonder if it's that same old bitterness "ye forgot about us" begrudgery that a lot of republican nordies seem to harbour? Whatever the reason, I'm glad they have been well and truly exposed to the neutral.
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Incredible spirit from both teams - Kelly, Tierney, Finnerty all showed Galway aren’t just about Comer and Walsh. Galway will be a tough task for Derry.
Not sure how the row happened but it’s lingered around Armagh all year as a problem. For me they didn’t own the indiscipline problem earlier in the year - they’d rather appeal than sort it out internally. So same old today. The subs disgraced themselves and unfortunately it’s something people will associate with Armagh as well as the great football they play. (And we haven’t even had the Sunday Game yet).
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If it’s finish on the day, I’ve yet to see a better answer to penalties to finish a game in any team sport in the world.
Keep playing periods of extra time maybe but players already out on their feet.
With penalties it’s the exact same for both players and teams.
Some of the alternatives been suggested…….FFS.
Interesting that Galway had practiced for them and played them at end of a few challenge games. That’s some preparation and the teams have accepted them. Pat Spillane just thinks that everything some be the same as the 80s when Kerry reigned supreme.
Back in the winter, I recall the Tyrone County Committee sending out a message to clubs in the county asking for suggestions other than a penalty shoot-out to ultimately decide the winner of a fixture where there had to be a "winner on the day".
They didn't get one response back.
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What a buzz. Its the hope that kills you. Take oneill out of that team they are nothing. Thank you Galway.
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If it’s finish on the day, I’ve yet to see a better answer to penalties to finish a game in any team sport in the world.
Keep playing periods of extra time maybe but players already out on their feet.
With penalties it’s the exact same for both players and teams.
Some of the alternatives been suggested…….FFS.
Interesting that Galway had practiced for them and played them at end of a few challenge games. That’s some preparation and the teams have accepted them. Pat Spillane just thinks that everything some be the same as the 80s when Kerry reigned supreme.
Some nonsense proposals indeed.
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who actually uses the word nordie unless your some sort of pro tory or west brit
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Incredible spirit from both teams - Kelly, Tierney, Finnerty all showed Galway aren’t just about Comer and Walsh. Galway will be a tough task for Derry.
Not sure how the row happened but it’s lingered around Armagh all year as a problem. For me they didn’t own the indiscipline problem earlier in the year - they’d rather appeal than sort it out internally. So same old today. The subs disgraced themselves and unfortunately it’s something people will associate with Armagh as well as the great football they play. (And we haven’t even had the Sunday Game yet).
Must get the popcorn in for that.
Spillane won't be on it at least.
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If it’s finish on the day, I’ve yet to see a better answer to penalties to finish a game in any team sport in the world.
Keep playing periods of extra time maybe but players already out on their feet.
With penalties it’s the exact same for both players and teams.
Some of the alternatives been suggested…….FFS.
Interesting that Galway had practiced for them and played them at end of a few challenge games. That’s some preparation and the teams have accepted them. Pat Spillane just thinks that everything some be the same as the 80s when Kerry reigned supreme.
Back in the winter, I recall the Tyrone County Committee sending out a message to clubs in the county asking for suggestions other than a penalty shoot-out to ultimately decide the winner of a fixture where there had to be a "winner on the day".
They didn't get one response back.
Youse Tyrone boys love the soccer
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Incredible game and fantastic entertainment. Galway were a few points the better team in normal team but their inability to deal with the high ball and then kicking away possession when they all had to do was hold the ball cost them dearly. They were otherwise very impressive but lot of questions about the way they almost threw that away. At the same time they deserve credit for keeping going after the disappointment of the final minutes then going a goal down in extra time. Will be a fascinating game against Derry, but that naivety would be punished by Derry you'd expect.
Tough to take for Armagh. For all Galway will be wondering how it went to extra time, Armagh still had to find a way to get those scores and they did. I had a lot of questions about Armagh through the league and early in the Championship but there are certainly reasons to be positive if they can build on the last few weeks.
Only negative today was the brawl. Absolutely ridiculous and embarrassing for the sport. Need to see strong punishments (that aren't rescinded on appeal).
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who actually uses the word nordie unless your some sort of pro tory or west brit
Ironic that someone who finds ‘nordie’ offensive thinks it’s fine to use the term ‘west brit’
Any why on earth would a tory use the term? 😆
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The mask slipped again. Same old Armagh. They could start a fight over the drop of a hat. I wonder if it's that same old bitterness "ye forgot about us" begrudgery that a lot of republican nordies seem to harbour? Whatever the reason, I'm glad they have been well and truly exposed to the neutral.
Think that’s says more about you view in the split than us in the north
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who actually uses the word nordie unless your some sort of pro tory or west brit
Ironic that someone who finds ‘nordie’ offensive thinks it’s fine to use the term ‘west brit’
Any why on earth would a tory use the term? 😆
where did i say i find nordie offensive
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who actually uses the word nordie unless your some sort of pro tory or west brit
Ironic that someone who finds ‘nordie’ offensive thinks it’s fine to use the term ‘west brit’
Any why on earth would a tory use the term? 😆
where did i say i find nordie offensive
Well then stop your moaning nordie and stop using offensive terms.
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There was very little to the row to be fair - a few hand bags - with the exception of the eye gouge
Looked worse than it was. Although in saying that Tyrone got 4 reds for contributing to a melee- if those rules were applied there would be 24 reds
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where did i say i was a nordie
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A good weekend for Galway (& Tyrone ones by the looks of it).
Youse Tyrone boys love the soccer
Rent. Free. ;D
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Shouldn't let the full-time shenanigans overshadow what was one the game of the year.
Unreal by both teams and no reason Armagh couldn't push on from this with Oisin o'N eyc back next year.
Ulster 2023 will be a minefield.
All go into a last 16 anyway where you'll probably end up with an Ulster team in your group
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A hard one to take for Armagh but could ultimately be the making of both teams. Galway could power on this year and when the dust settles Armagh will have a superb starting point for next year. There were lads coming on in normal time there I'd never heard tell of, so we really were stretched thin. I hope the full management team recommit. It'll be another 50/50 match in the semi.
A good weekend for Galway (& Tyrone ones by the looks of it).
Take off the orange glasses mate. We scored 2 flukey late goals courtesy of a flakey keeper. Otherwise we were miles off Galway and could've been going home bate out the gate by 8 or 9. Geezer has to go
Oh dear lord ::) Armagh is a small county, our club football is pretty mediocre, to get a seriously competitive team playing a great brand of football, reinvigorating the County along the way, is fantastic imo. A team depleted by multiple injuries as well. We can look forward to next season with confidence. But sure I'd love to hear your suggestions for alternatives.
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Incredible game and fantastic entertainment. Galway were a few points the better team in normal team but their inability to deal with the high ball and then kicking away possession when they all had to do was hold the ball cost them dearly. They were otherwise very impressive but lot of questions about the way they almost threw that away. At the same time they deserve credit for keeping going after the disappointment of the final minutes then going a goal down in extra time. Will be a fascinating game against Derry, but that naivety would be punished by Derry you'd expect.
Tough to take for Armagh. For all Galway will be wondering how it went to extra time, Armagh still had to find a way to get those scores and they did. I had a lot of questions about Armagh through the league and early in the Championship but there are certainly reasons to be positive if they can build on the last few weeks.
Only negative today was the brawl. Absolutely ridiculous and embarrassing for the sport. Need to see strong punishments (that aren't rescinded on appeal).
But sure that never happens and that’s why it happens time and again. GAA is a joke shop when it comes to suspensions. And if Coldrick randomly selected the two captains for a bit of punishment, that’s pure Father Ted stuff.
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Poor old Soupy.
https://youtu.be/Nuw8GJbqx94
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Heart not good after that. As a man who goes to pretty much every Galway game I’m not one bit surprised that our keeper almost cost us the game. He is a liability end of story.
How he is still there beggars belief to be honest.
At the end of normal time I feared we were gone.
But delighted we dug it out.
Cillian McDaid dragged us to penalties.
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And to think an Armagh man invented the penalty kick...
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What entertainment, well done to both teams. A game that had everything played in front of a huge passionate crowd, but penalties are a cruel way for a team to go out.
Must have been some Sunday drinking going on in here. Feeling thirsty now
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Will there be a lot of suspensions arising from that brawl? The thing is they will only hurt Galway if there are many suspensions. Armagh are out now while Galway have a game in 2 weeks.
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Everyone involved in the melee should be suspended from inter county football for the rest of 2022.
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Great game and atmosphere. Both sets of forwards on top. Armagh are there or thereabouts, just need to fine tune a few aspects especially at the back. Don’t think midfield won any of the throw-ins. The sending off seems to have been overshadowed by the argy bargey and the eye-gouging, but it didn’t really affect Armagh and they showed great heart in dragging themselves back in, but then lacked composure that could have seen the game out. Galway for me were the better rounded side and deserved their victory, despite the efforts of their GK. Penalties is a shit way to decide a game though.
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Everyone involved in the melee should be suspended from inter county football for the rest of 2022.
;D
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Armagh are not near tight enough marking in defense. Still a bit of improvement required.
As for suspensions that boy who did the eye gouging has his face all over social media so he has been got hook line and sinker.
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Few thoughts.
Replace penalties with next 2 scores in a row wins. All right, it might go on for a while, but better than penalties.
The gouger needs at least 2 years. No need to ban anyone else. Just a few handbags.
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Armagh are not near tight enough marking in defense. Still a bit of improvement required.
As for suspensions that boy who did the eye gouging has his face all over social media so he has been got hook line and sinker.
His name is actually trending on Twitter!
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Armagh turned down at least 4 goal scoring opportunities they could have had the game won if they’d had a bit more courage!
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Armagh are not near tight enough marking in defense. Still a bit of improvement required.
As for suspensions that boy who did the eye gouging has his face all over social media so he has been got hook line and sinker.
His name is actually trending on Twitter!
I would say he would be best shutting down his social media accounts!
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Rian stole some amount of yards for that final free lol. Fair play to him, they all do it - funny how club refs will blow for this but I've never seen a County ref call it
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Hall could have gone for goal too!!
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McGeeney gave a poor enough account of himself when interviewed earlier by Sidebottom.
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Armagh also kicked an easy wide right at the end that would have won it :(
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Great game - gaelic football is the best.
Armagh six points down, a man down and then the give us the best 28 minutes ever. Hope everyone stays on the panel for next year.
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Hall could have gone for goal too!!
Should have
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Just home. Some thoughts.
1. Wel done Galway. Better team. Deserved winners. It was a smash and grab raid at the end from us. We never really got going otherwise.
2. The ref. No complaints. He gave some soft frees but against both teams. I thought McCabe made a fair but hard shoulder challenge but apparently he raised his arm so had to go.
3. The melee. Sadly we are the common denominator and while it looked like Comer was the instigator we have only ourselves to blame for getting involved. Again.
4. The gouge. I do not believe for one second, and won’t be convinced otherwise, that he meant to do that. However he did it. The pictures don’t look good and he will have to face the consequences of his own actions and take whatever ban comes his way.
5. Penalties. What more can I say. Gutted to lose that way
Lastly, and it is with a heavy heart that I wrote this. I am ashamed to be an Armagh fan today. My nephew is 5. He was in the toilet with his dad. 5 grown men. Armagh supporters, got into a fight. One of them knocked my nephew over. The lad is traumatised. He will get over it but will he want to go back to a game again? Woukd you blame him if he didn’t. The guys were wearing Armagh tops. My nephew thought they were players ffs. At this stage I am not sure I want to go back to a game.
Anyway. Best of luck to Galway against Derry in the semifinal
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Just home. Some thoughts.
1. Wel done Galway. Better team. Deserved winners. It was a smash and grab raid at the end from us. We never really got going otherwise.
2. The ref. No complaints. He gave some soft frees but against both teams. I thought McCabe made a fair but hard shoulder challenge but apparently he raised his arm so had to go.
3. The melee. Sadly we are the common denominator and while it looked like Comer was the instigator we have only ourselves to blame for getting involved. Again.
4. The gouge. I do not believe for one second, and won’t be convinced otherwise, that he meant to do that. However he did it. The pictures don’t look good and he will have to face the consequences of his own actions and take whatever ban comes his way.
5. Penalties. What more can I say. Gutted to lose that way
Lastly, and it is with a heavy heart that I wrote this. I am ashamed to be an Armagh fan today. My nephew is 5. He was in the toilet with his dad. 5 grown men. Armagh supporters, got into a fight. One of them knocked my nephew over. The lad is traumatised. He will get over it but will he want to go back to a game again? Woukd you blame him if he didn’t. The guys were wearing Armagh tops. My nephew thought they were players ffs. At this stage I am not sure I want to go back to a game.
Anyway. Best of luck to Galway against Derry in the semifinal
I'm sorry to hear that about your nephew. Unfortunately big games bring the dickheads out of the woodwork. Get him going to league games where them boys are not at. I think you assessment is fair but the eye gouge looks so deliberate, I just can't see any mitigation against it.
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If the eye gouge wasn’t intentional then what was he trying to do? I don’t understand how it couldn’t have been intentional tbh.
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If the eye gouge wasn’t intentional then what was he trying to do? I don’t understand how it couldn’t have been intentional tbh.
Looks like he could be trying to push the guy away and connects with his eyes. I don’t know. I’m sitting here with a heavy heart and it isn’t just the result that is making it that way. Maybe I just don’t want to think an Armagh player, a player form my own town and club, would do that.
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Lastly, and it is with a heavy heart that I wrote this. I am ashamed to be an Armagh fan today. My nephew is 5. He was in the toilet with his dad. 5 grown men. Armagh supporters, got into a fight. One of them knocked my nephew over. The lad is traumatised. He will get over it but will he want to go back to a game again? Woukd you blame him if he didn’t. The guys were wearing Armagh tops. My nephew thought they were players ffs. At this stage I am not sure I want to go back to a game.
Disgusting.
They'll probably be that full by the end of the night they'll remember nothing of it tomorrow. 5 tramps of the highest order.
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If the eye gouge wasn’t intentional then what was he trying to do? I don’t understand how it couldn’t have been intentional tbh.
Intentional or not he had absolutely no need to get involved at all let alone blindside a player and put his hand across his face. It's a peculiar approach if not trying to gouge. Anyway he'll be hung, drawn and quartered by the morning which always feels a bit off for an amateur sportsman.
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If the eye gouge wasn’t intentional then what was he trying to do? I don’t understand how it couldn’t have been intentional tbh.
Intentional or not he had absolutely no need to get involved at all let alone blindside a player and put his hand across his face. It's a peculiar approach if not trying to gouge. Anyway he'll be hung, drawn and quartered by the morning which always feels a bit off for an amateur sportsman.
When he could destroy the eye of a fellow amateur sportsman... then he deserves what he gets.
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Just home. Some thoughts.
1. Wel done Galway. Better team. Deserved winners. It was a smash and grab raid at the end from us. We never really got going otherwise.
2. The ref. No complaints. He gave some soft frees but against both teams. I thought McCabe made a fair but hard shoulder challenge but apparently he raised his arm so had to go.
3. The melee. Sadly we are the common denominator and while it looked like Comer was the instigator we have only ourselves to blame for getting involved. Again.
4. The gouge. I do not believe for one second, and won’t be convinced otherwise, that he meant to do that. However he did it. The pictures don’t look good and he will have to face the consequences of his own actions and take whatever ban comes his way.
5. Penalties. What more can I say. Gutted to lose that way
Lastly, and it is with a heavy heart that I wrote this. I am ashamed to be an Armagh fan today. My nephew is 5. He was in the toilet with his dad. 5 grown men. Armagh supporters, got into a fight. One of them knocked my nephew over. The lad is traumatised. He will get over it but will he want to go back to a game again? Woukd you blame him if he didn’t. The guys were wearing Armagh tops. My nephew thought they were players ffs. At this stage I am not sure I want to go back to a game.
Anyway. Best of luck to Galway against Derry in the semifinal
I'm sorry to hear that about your nephew. Unfortunately big games bring the dickheads out of the woodwork. Get him going to league games where them boys are not at. I think you assessment is fair but the eye gouge looks so deliberate, I just can't see any mitigation against it.
Cheers mate. He has been to loads of games all over the country already. We indoctrinate them early in our family haha. The poor lad was crying for an hour afterwards tho. He’s pretty resilient tho so hopefully he will shake it off and be raring to go for the McKenna cup. Me on the other hand….
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My experience of Armagh & Crossmageln supporters is they have some of the very best & worst supporters in the Gaa. Big days bring out the thuggish bandwagoners.
Can remember being at an Ulster final many moons ago between Armagh & Donegal. Bus pulls up with Armagh supporters close to Stadium, thousands of people young & old around, Armagh woman in her 20s first off the bus, pulls down her Jean's & drawers, squats about 6 feet from the bus, takes a pee like shes at home. Classy.
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Well done Galway- probably were the better team on the day, some very good players-hope Kelly gets his red overturned and no one else gets suspended. They deserve a full compliment for the semi and best of luck to them. . Absolutely gutting way to lose a game- a replay next weekend would have been fairer.
We really have the best fans in the country- place was absolutely rocking and the second game felt like it was being played in a library in comparison.
What a game- what a score from Rian to level it too. Would be a crime if that lad never wins sam.
We’ll be back though.
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If the eye gouge wasn’t intentional then what was he trying to do? I don’t understand how it couldn’t have been intentional tbh.
Intentional or not he had absolutely no need to get involved at all let alone blindside a player and put his hand across his face. It's a peculiar approach if not trying to gouge. Anyway he'll be hung, drawn and quartered by the morning which always feels a bit off for an amateur sportsman.
When he could destroy the eye of a fellow amateur sportsman... then he deserves what he gets.
Oh I know. I just watched the video back and just before he releases his hand he closes his fingers it what only can be interpreted as a deliberate gouge. Questions need to be asked why he was near the field if out injured - anyone beyond the 30 on the pitch getting involved should be an immediate ban. The GAA should throw the book at him to the maximum extent possible, but the social media abuse is a bit much imo.
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There is some crazy stuff on social media, trying to find out who his employer is etc to really sink him. Totally over the top.
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Football needs depth and competitive games with teams bringing style to the game. Armagh and Galway certainly saved All Ireland QF weekend and as a result increased interest in the championship. It was game of the season for sure but maybe one of the best games for pure drama in a number of years. It's possible we'll see more Galway v Armagh games over the coming years, two teams going places. Galway v Derry has potential to be another epic which can only be good for the game.
One criticism, due to the epic nature of today's game it really shines a light on the crazy get a result on the day rule. We are not soccer so a shoot out has no place in deciding an All Ireland QF, especially with players out on their feet. Joyce was spot on and it's something I'd hope the GPA and county boards bring up in the off season. Congrats Galway though, they'll take some beating this season and it would be great for the game if them or Derry can win Sam which I think is possible.
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There is some crazy stuff on social media, trying to find out who his employer is etc to really sink him. Totally over the top.
For real? That's just pathetic FFS.
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You make your bed you lie in it, sane in life, and generally if you’re a **** you’ll act a **** daily, whoever goes out and tries to gouge someone’s eye out is a **** and deserves all that comes his way
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You make your bed you lie in it, sane in life, and generally if you’re a **** you’ll act a **** daily, whoever goes out and tries to gouge someone’s eye out is a **** and deserves all that comes his way
..............ah now, let him without sin cast the first stone. He has a family, friends etc. Treating him like a dog solves nothing!
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You make your bed you lie in it, sane in life, and generally if you’re a **** you’ll act a **** daily, whoever goes out and tries to gouge someone’s eye out is a **** and deserves all that comes his way
..............ah now, let him without sin cast the first stone.
I'd say MR has had a day in the club.
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GAA HQ should hang their heads In shame by allowing that penalty nonsense to decide a game.
We all should have had a replay to forward to next weekend.
I’m currently on a crusade to help people understand penalty shootouts.
When you can shift your mindset from one in which the “loser” doesn't deserve to exit, to the (right) mindset in which a team that doesn’t win a game has no right to proceed, it’s a lot easier to take a penalty shoot out loss.
If you want to proceed, win a game. But if you don’t win, don’t expect a second chance.
Fair summary. Rules are clear from the start .
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After seeing Armagh's red card and behaviour today, I think we've been wrong about Tyrone - compared to other teams in Ulster, Tyrone are a sporting, clean, non-cynical team of good honest men.
With the Galway goalkeeper having such a horror show today, you'd have thought the Armagh penalty takers would have been told to at least keep their penalties on target.
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After seeing Armagh's red card and behaviour today, I think we've been wrong about Tyrone - compared to other teams in Ulster, Tyrone are a sporting, clean, non-cynical team of good honest men.
With the Galway goalkeeper having such a horror show today, you'd have thought the Armagh penalty takers would have been told to at least keep their penalties on target.
They'd have had more success if they hoofed the ball 50 foot into the air from the penalty spot and asked the keeper to gather the high ball. Would take a bit of skill but worth trying!
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You make your bed you lie in it, sane in life, and generally if you’re a **** you’ll act a **** daily, whoever goes out and tries to gouge someone’s eye out is a **** and deserves all that comes his way
..............ah now, let him without sin cast the first stone. He has a family, friends etc. Treating him like a dog solves nothing!
I agree. The lad knows himself what he done was wrong.
This witch hunt of checking who he works for is on another level. Social media gone overboard.
The lad will probably get a ban.
Move on.
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Some one has to be disappointed. Dragging this out for another week for Amateur players is wrong. If you are good enough to win over 70+ or 90+ minutes then good. If not you can't have any complaints going out to penalties.
Media sources will say otherwise because they want to sell more papers, podcasts, TV advertising etc.
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After seeing Armagh's red card and behaviour today, I think we've been wrong about Tyrone - compared to other teams in Ulster, Tyrone are a sporting, clean, non-cynical team of good honest men.
With the Galway goalkeeper having such a horror show today, you'd have thought the Armagh penalty takers would have been told to at least keep their penalties on target.
That’s where they went wrong. The management clearly told the players to not hit the target….
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Just home. Some thoughts.
1. Wel done Galway. Better team. Deserved winners. It was a smash and grab raid at the end from us. We never really got going otherwise.
2. The ref. No complaints. He gave some soft frees but against both teams. I thought McCabe made a fair but hard shoulder challenge but apparently he raised his arm so had to go.
3. The melee. Sadly we are the common denominator and while it looked like Comer was the instigator we have only ourselves to blame for getting involved. Again.
4. The gouge. I do not believe for one second, and won’t be convinced otherwise, that he meant to do that. However he did it. The pictures don’t look good and he will have to face the consequences of his own actions and take whatever ban comes his way.
5. Penalties. What more can I say. Gutted to lose that way
Lastly, and it is with a heavy heart that I wrote this. I am ashamed to be an Armagh fan today. My nephew is 5. He was in the toilet with his dad. 5 grown men. Armagh supporters, got into a fight. One of them knocked my nephew over. The lad is traumatised. He will get over it but will he want to go back to a game again? Woukd you blame him if he didn’t. The guys were wearing Armagh tops. My nephew thought they were players ffs. At this stage I am not sure I want to go back to a game.
Anyway. Best of luck to Galway against Derry in the semifinal
Tonto, I'm guessing you're either a relative or friend of the player involved but the worst possible thing anyone can do is pretend that was accidental Excuse it with a rush of the blood moment or whatever but noone associated with Armagh GAA should make an excuse for it. Just call it for what it is ffs
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Just home. Some thoughts.
1. Wel done Galway. Better team. Deserved winners. It was a smash and grab raid at the end from us. We never really got going otherwise.
2. The ref. No complaints. He gave some soft frees but against both teams. I thought McCabe made a fair but hard shoulder challenge but apparently he raised his arm so had to go.
3. The melee. Sadly we are the common denominator and while it looked like Comer was the instigator we have only ourselves to blame for getting involved. Again.
4. The gouge. I do not believe for one second, and won’t be convinced otherwise, that he meant to do that. However he did it. The pictures don’t look good and he will have to face the consequences of his own actions and take whatever ban comes his way.
5. Penalties. What more can I say. Gutted to lose that way
Lastly, and it is with a heavy heart that I wrote this. I am ashamed to be an Armagh fan today. My nephew is 5. He was in the toilet with his dad. 5 grown men. Armagh supporters, got into a fight. One of them knocked my nephew over. The lad is traumatised. He will get over it but will he want to go back to a game again? Woukd you blame him if he didn’t. The guys were wearing Armagh tops. My nephew thought they were players ffs. At this stage I am not sure I want to go back to a game.
Anyway. Best of luck to Galway against Derry in the semifinal
Tonto, I'm guessing you're either a relative or friend of the player involved but the worst possible thing anyone can do is pretend that was accidental Excuse it with a rush of the blood moment or whatever but noone associated with Armagh GAA should make an excuse for it. Just call it for what it is ffs
Same club tho my playing days are long since over and I don’t actually know him. I wrote that having only seen the photo. I’ve since seen the video and can’t excuse him. He will have a deserved ban coming. I hope he takes it and learns from it and moves on from it. Also hope he is allowed to move on from it. As has been said, the witch hunt on SM is behind a joke
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Everyone involved in the melee should be suspended from inter county football for the rest of 2022.
On the basis Tiernan Kelly had no business being on the pitch, treat him like the Louth fans in 2010 and give him a day out in court.
I'm serious. It's not a schmozzle when pitch invasions are involved.
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Everyone involved in the melee should be suspended from inter county football for the rest of 2022.
On the basis Tiernan Kelly had no business being on the pitch, treat him like the Louth fans in 2010 and give him a day out in court.
I'm serious. It's not a schmozzle when pitch invasions are involved.
Did you call for Philly McMahon to see court when he gouged?
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Just home. Some thoughts.
1. Wel done Galway. Better team. Deserved winners. It was a smash and grab raid at the end from us. We never really got going otherwise.
2. The ref. No complaints. He gave some soft frees but against both teams. I thought McCabe made a fair but hard shoulder challenge but apparently he raised his arm so had to go.
3. The melee. Sadly we are the common denominator and while it looked like Comer was the instigator we have only ourselves to blame for getting involved. Again.
4. The gouge. I do not believe for one second, and won’t be convinced otherwise, that he meant to do that. However he did it. The pictures don’t look good and he will have to face the consequences of his own actions and take whatever ban comes his way.
5. Penalties. What more can I say. Gutted to lose that way
Lastly, and it is with a heavy heart that I wrote this. I am ashamed to be an Armagh fan today. My nephew is 5. He was in the toilet with his dad. 5 grown men. Armagh supporters, got into a fight. One of them knocked my nephew over. The lad is traumatised. He will get over it but will he want to go back to a game again? Woukd you blame him if he didn’t. The guys were wearing Armagh tops. My nephew thought they were players ffs. At this stage I am not sure I want to go back to a game.
Anyway. Best of luck to Galway against Derry in the semifinal
Tonto, I'm guessing you're either a relative or friend of the player involved but the worst possible thing anyone can do is pretend that was accidental Excuse it with a rush of the blood moment or whatever but noone associated with Armagh GAA should make an excuse for it. Just call it for what it is ffs
Same club tho my playing days are long since over and I don’t actually know him. I wrote that having only seen the photo. I’ve since seen the video and can’t excuse him. He will have a deserved ban coming. I hope he takes it and learns from it and moves on from it. Also hope he is allowed to move on from it. As has been said, the witch hunt on SM is behind a joke
Fairly reasoned post there tbh. Sorry the young one got caught up in that
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Everyone involved in the melee should be suspended from inter county football for the rest of 2022.
On the basis Tiernan Kelly had no business being on the pitch, treat him like the Louth fans in 2010 and give him a day out in court.
I'm serious. It's not a schmozzle when pitch invasions are involved.
Did you call for Philly McMahon to see court when he gouged?
He was a player not a spectator so a different set of rules apply.
But I wouldn't have complained if he took a ban.
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Row as usual could been sorted by 2 lads when Donaghy had seperate them, as usual both sets of players plus subs again piled in. No f**king discpline in players 1. Because managers don't deal with it, 2. Melees make it harder to identify culprits. 3.players don't take responsibility for their actions, 4.Gaa don't bother their ass to sort it out and take a rugby type discipline approach, limit the rule book on appeals, close all loop holes, any appealed decision doubled if unsuccessful. How many other sports do you seen this shambles, with the usual it's only handbags, nobody got hurt etc to define it. It makes the Gaa a laughing stock.
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Genuine question.
Why are non playing panel members on or near the pitch? How many of these mills see lads hopping a fence to get stuck in. Are there any rules around this?
Treat them like the rest of the paying public - pitch invaders - abd it will stop immediately.
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Just home. Some thoughts.
1. Wel done Galway. Better team. Deserved winners. It was a smash and grab raid at the end from us. We never really got going otherwise.
2. The ref. No complaints. He gave some soft frees but against both teams. I thought McCabe made a fair but hard shoulder challenge but apparently he raised his arm so had to go.
3. The melee. Sadly we are the common denominator and while it looked like Comer was the instigator we have only ourselves to blame for getting involved. Again.
4. The gouge. I do not believe for one second, and won’t be convinced otherwise, that he meant to do that. However he did it. The pictures don’t look good and he will have to face the consequences of his own actions and take whatever ban comes his way.
5. Penalties. What more can I say. Gutted to lose that way
Lastly, and it is with a heavy heart that I wrote this. I am ashamed to be an Armagh fan today. My nephew is 5. He was in the toilet with his dad. 5 grown men. Armagh supporters, got into a fight. One of them knocked my nephew over. The lad is traumatised. He will get over it but will he want to go back to a game again? Woukd you blame him if he didn’t. The guys were wearing Armagh tops. My nephew thought they were players ffs. At this stage I am not sure I want to go back to a game.
Anyway. Best of luck to Galway against Derry in the semifinal
Tonto, I'm guessing you're either a relative or friend of the player involved but the worst possible thing anyone can do is pretend that was accidental Excuse it with a rush of the blood moment or whatever but noone associated with Armagh GAA should make an excuse for it. Just call it for what it is ffs
Same club tho my playing days are long since over and I don’t actually know him. I wrote that having only seen the photo. I’ve since seen the video and can’t excuse him. He will have a deserved ban coming. I hope he takes it and learns from it and moves on from it. Also hope he is allowed to move on from it. As has been said, the witch hunt on SM is behind a joke
Fairly reasoned post there tbh. Sorry the young one got caught up in that
Tonto I hope you nephew is OK. With so many supporters there you will sadly always get some prats.
I agree with your on Kelly. He let himself and team mates down. He will realise that. Let him take his ban and learn from it. Many won't agree but he will need support too to cope with the repercussions.
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Armagh unlucky. Red card was a horroble decision. Armagh will be happy with their 2 all irelands this year after beating tyrone and after beating donegal. First round of ulster and all ireland quarter final to show for it
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And what about the nxt time their another Armagh melee, will the subs ever learn to stay out of it, if the managers attitude is, someone pushes you, push them back. He still on the playground in primary school or sthing?
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I thought the red card was wrong and only a yellow originally but the replays showed different. Armagh should lost Morgan as well.
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Only just seen the footage of the full time incident.
Dirty tr**p needs to get a lengthy ban.
I just don’t get this gouging stuff at all and why anyone would even attempt it. It’s pure cowardice
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wonder if it will be on nolan first thing tommorow
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I think it's all Tyrones fault
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Sean Kelly did absolutely nothing to warrant a red card. f**king joke.
Ditto the Armagh number 13 did absolutely nothing either and got red.
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You make your bed you lie in it, sane in life, and generally if you’re a **** you’ll act a **** daily, whoever goes out and tries to gouge someone’s eye out is a **** and deserves all that comes his way
..............ah now, let him without sin cast the first stone.
I'd say MR has had a day in the club.
Nope, came home after refereeing, watched that and thought pure **** action, and anyone defending it is a Cnut.
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Row as usual could been sorted by 2 lads when Donaghy had seperate them, as usual both sets of players plus subs again piled in. No f**king discpline in players 1. Because managers don't deal with it, 2. Melees make it harder to identify culprits. 3.players don't take responsibility for their actions, 4.Gaa don't bother their ass to sort it out and take a rugby type discipline approach, limit the rule book on appeals, close all loop holes, any appealed decision doubled if unsuccessful. How many other sports do you seen this shambles, with the usual it's only handbags, nobody got hurt etc to define it. It makes the Gaa a laughing stock.
Spot on. It's time we in the gaa started accepting the consequences of the actions of our players. It starts with management and extends to club and county officials, player clearly transgresses, gets punished, accept the punishment - don't look for some procedural technicality to get the player off.
Of course, the gaa could speed this along by engaging a team of suitably qualified legal personnel to make the rules, sanction and appeals procedures water tight. Might take a few hundred K, but it would be money well spent.
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Sean Kelly did absolutely nothing to warrant a red card. f**king joke.
Ditto the Armagh number 13 did absolutely nothing either and got red.
From what I saw Kelly was a credit to his team and county. Without wanting to be a total hypocrite in light of my last post, he needs to appeal🤭🤭
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Genuine question.
Why are non playing panel members on or near the pitch? How many of these mills see lads hopping a fence to get stuck in. Are there any rules around this?
Treat them like the rest of the paying public - pitch invaders - abd it will stop immediately.
Funny that you felt a need to preface your post with 'genuine question' as if being genuine is the exception.
There is a rule covering the unauthorised entry of non players onto the pitch and getting involved in affairs, Darren Hughes was given a ban for such a deed.
You can look it up in the book.
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Genuine question.
Why are non playing panel members on or near the pitch? How many of these mills see lads hopping a fence to get stuck in. Are there any rules around this?
Treat them like the rest of the paying public - pitch invaders - abd it will stop immediately.
Funny that you felt a need to preface your post with 'genuine question' as if being genuine is the exception.
There is a rule covering the unauthorised entry of non players onto the pitch and getting involved in affairs, Darren Hughes was given a ban for such a deed.
You can look it up in the book.
They get away with it all the time though. AOS came on last year after being subbed for being shit and started a melee. He should have been banned for the final but of course got off cause it’s GAA rules
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After seeing Armagh's red card and behaviour today, I think we've been wrong about Tyrone - compared to other teams in Ulster, Tyrone are a sporting, clean, non-cynical team of good honest men.
With the Galway goalkeeper having such a horror show today, you'd have thought the Armagh penalty takers would have been told to at least keep their penalties on target.
Feck sake if only they’d thought of that.
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In fairness to Pádraic Joyce he called it like it is.
Choice of penalties by the GAA is 'disgraceful'
"It's a horrible way to lose it and that's not the fault of the Armagh players, it's the fault of the GAA and the condensed season,"
"My heart goes out to Armagh. Kieran McGeeney and the boys have put in a savage effort; they have been the form team and their supporters brought fantastic colour down here today. The roar when Rian O'Neill levelled the game in normal time was deafening.
"It beggars belief as to why we couldn't have had a replay next weekend. That might sound simple for me to say because we won the game, but that was my over-riding feeling at full-time.
"It such a hard way to lose a game after putting in such an effort over the last couple; Kieran has put so much work in with them and we've also put in the work over the last two or three years, training Tuesdays and Thursdays, and at weekends. To decide the outcome on a penalty shootout.... we're not soccer, we're GAA. To me it's disgraceful it had to happen."
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In fairness to Pádraic Joyce he called it like it is.
Choice of penalties by the GAA is 'disgraceful'
"It's a horrible way to lose it and that's not the fault of the Armagh players, it's the fault of the GAA and the condensed season,"
"My heart goes out to Armagh. Kieran McGeeney and the boys have put in a savage effort; they have been the form team and their supporters brought fantastic colour down here today. The roar when Rian O'Neill levelled the game in normal time was deafening.
"It beggars belief as to why we couldn't have had a replay next weekend. That might sound simple for me to say because we won the game, but that was my over-riding feeling at full-time.
"It such a hard way to lose a game after putting in such an effort over the last couple; Kieran has put so much work in with them and we've also put in the work over the last two or three years, training Tuesdays and Thursdays, and at weekends. To decide the outcome on a penalty shootout.... we're not soccer, we're GAA. To me it's disgraceful it had to happen."
Yeah I think most are in agreement about that.
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Genuine question.
Why are non playing panel members on or near the pitch? How many of these mills see lads hopping a fence to get stuck in. Are there any rules around this?
Treat them like the rest of the paying public - pitch invaders - abd it will stop immediately.
Was thinking do they all actually go into the changing room at half-time and before extra-time?
Changing room isn't that overly big so it must be jam packed.
You'd think manager would only want 20 players or so in there plus management and physios etc.
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Some one has to be disappointed. Dragging this out for another week for Amateur players is wrong. If you are good enough to win over 70+ or 90+ minutes then good. If not you can't have any complaints going out to penalties.
Media sources will say otherwise because they want to sell more papers, podcasts, TV advertising etc.
I'd disagree, it was unfair on amateur players and a lost opportunity for football as a whole. We probably can't allow two replays so a decide on the day rule could possibly be brought in for the replay, but if it's a draw after extra time on match one it should be a replay, amateur players deserve that at least.
Football hasn't had a great season overall a replay would have increased interest across the country, who wouldn't have watched Armagh Galway part 2. The fact a lot of inter county players have headed stateside which they're right to do shows the idea of the spilt season hasn't had the expected benefit for clubs.
I don't expect next season QF's to be decided on pens on day 1, I think they'll find room in the schedule for at least one replay after such a high profile, epic game went that way yesterday.
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Row as usual could been sorted by 2 lads when Donaghy had seperate them, as usual both sets of players plus subs again piled in. No f**king discpline in players 1. Because managers don't deal with it, 2. Melees make it harder to identify culprits. 3.players don't take responsibility for their actions, 4.Gaa don't bother their ass to sort it out and take a rugby type discipline approach, limit the rule book on appeals, close all loop holes, any appealed decision doubled if unsuccessful. How many other sports do you seen this shambles, with the usual it's only handbags, nobody got hurt etc to define it. It makes the Gaa a laughing stock.
Good post.
GAA could nip a lot of this in the bud.
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It’ll be interesting to see how many suspensions get handed out. How a ref can stand back and send multiple Tyrone men off in a league game for contributing to a melee then another ref stands back and sends one each off yesterday just really does make a joke of the GAA rules. Unfortunately, if a large number of players aren’t suspended it will be used as a precedent for appeals for the next 20 years.
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Sean Kelly did absolutely nothing to warrant a red card. f**king joke.
Ditto the Armagh number 13 did absolutely nothing either and got red.
TSG last night said the GAA said they were both sent off for contributing to a melee.
I know, strange.
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Row as usual could been sorted by 2 lads when Donaghy had seperate them, as usual both sets of players plus subs again piled in. No f**king discpline in players 1. Because managers don't deal with it, 2. Melees make it harder to identify culprits. 3.players don't take responsibility for their actions, 4.Gaa don't bother their ass to sort it out and take a rugby type discipline approach, limit the rule book on appeals, close all loop holes, any appealed decision doubled if unsuccessful. How many other sports do you seen this shambles, with the usual it's only handbags, nobody got hurt etc to define it. It makes the Gaa a laughing stock.
It’s not that big of a deal. Give Kelly a ban for the eye gouging and move on.
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Sean Kelly did absolutely nothing to warrant a red card. f**king joke.
Ditto the Armagh number 13 did absolutely nothing either and got red.
Yeah Kelly seemed to be trying to calm the thing down in fairness to him. Not sure what the ref saw. Hope Kelly gets off on appeal for the semi and the very best of luck to yourselves in it. Got chatting to a few Galway ones on the way in and out and all sound people.
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Sean Kelly did absolutely nothing to warrant a red card. f**king joke.
Ditto the Armagh number 13 did absolutely nothing either and got red.
TSG last night said the GAA said they were both sent off for contributing to a melee.
I know, strange.
In which case 25 red cards should have been issued.
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Some one has to be disappointed. Dragging this out for another week for Amateur players is wrong. If you are good enough to win over 70+ or 90+ minutes then good. If not you can't have any complaints going out to penalties.
Media sources will say otherwise because they want to sell more papers, podcasts, TV advertising etc.
I'd disagree, it was unfair on amateur players and a lost opportunity for football as a whole. We probably can't allow two replays so a decide on the day rule could possibly be brought in for the replay, but if it's a draw after extra time on match one it should be a replay, amateur players deserve that at least.
Football hasn't had a great season overall a replay would have increased interest across the country, who wouldn't have watched Armagh Galway part 2. The fact a lot of inter county players have headed stateside which they're right to do shows the idea of the spilt season hasn't had the expected benefit for clubs.
I don't expect next season QF's to be decided on pens on day 1, I think they'll find room in the schedule for at least one replay after such a high profile, epic game went that way yesterday.
Where do you get the time for replays? Like honestly, where? Is it only for quarter finals onwards, what about provincials? Simply put, with the new calendar, we've no place. Sure, there's a weekend coming up next, but that's set for hurling, and if we did decide to throw in a replay, one team would be out 3 weekends in a row. And wasn't next weekend always set as a day off? What if the players had something organised, and would have to cancel and such. Look, penalties are harsh enough way, but we all knew before the season started that it was this way, no replays. We'll get used to it. It's better this way in the long run
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The only suspension out of it all should be the Armagh eye gouger - the rest was handbags - bit of pushing
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And another thing, if some are going to come up with other ideas, at least put some thought into them. Next score wins? 2 scores in a row? How on earth is this meant to be implemented fairly. What if there's a gale wind favouring one team? Penalties are tough, but are fair as you get your chances to take and save them. And it gets finished within a certain period of time.
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Some one has to be disappointed. Dragging this out for another week for Amateur players is wrong. If you are good enough to win over 70+ or 90+ minutes then good. If not you can't have any complaints going out to penalties.
Media sources will say otherwise because they want to sell more papers, podcasts, TV advertising etc.
I'd disagree, it was unfair on amateur players and a lost opportunity for football as a whole. We probably can't allow two replays so a decide on the day rule could possibly be brought in for the replay, but if it's a draw after extra time on match one it should be a replay, amateur players deserve that at least.
Football hasn't had a great season overall a replay would have increased interest across the country, who wouldn't have watched Armagh Galway part 2. The fact a lot of inter county players have headed stateside which they're right to do shows the idea of the spilt season hasn't had the expected benefit for clubs.
I don't expect next season QF's to be decided on pens on day 1, I think they'll find room in the schedule for at least one replay after such a high profile, epic game went that way yesterday.
Where do you get the time for replays? Like honestly, where? Is it only for quarter finals onwards, what about provincials? Simply put, with the new calendar, we've no place. Sure, there's a weekend coming up next, but that's set for hurling, and if we did decide to throw in a replay, one team would be out 3 weekends in a row. And wasn't next weekend always set as a day off? What if the players had something organised, and would have to cancel and such. Look, penalties are harsh enough way, but we all knew before the season started that it was this way, no replays. We'll get used to it. It's better this way in the long run
I agree you make the rules at the start so yesterday had to be decided that way. However when the plan becomes reality and you see an epic game in the All Ireland series going that way, with players cramping up some common sense has to take over.
We are not soccer and these are not professional players, they give a huge commitment to their county and getting to the All Ireland series takes a lot of hard work. The All Ireland Final has replays, my point is this needs and I expect will be extended to at least one replay throughout the All Ireland series ( QF onwards).
The inter county season will have to be extended by a few weeks but from a marketing perspective this season's championships have been a disaster so I expect All Ireland Finals to be pushed back into August anyhow after a review so there is space.
Amateur players have every right to take up opportunities in America but it shows a lot will use the short season for this benefit other than return straight back to the clubs, obviously not every players does this but the numbers are high. This is unlikely to be lost on the GAA when they review the split season dates and that is another reason I think we'll see All Ireland Finals being played in August.
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A lot of talking points.
The red card was harsh enough
ONeill could have saw red for a slap to the face - got a yellow instead so not sure how it was a yellow
Armagh #2 barged into Comer on the way off the field - that started the row - but bar the eye gouging nothing else really happened and the two boys who got the reds can feel rightly aggrieved
A lengthy ban for the eye gouging - the pitchforks are out in force online for that fella.
Galway keeper will not enjoy the game v Derry if he plays - will be put under immense pressure after yesterday
If people had such an issue with penalties then they should have been brought up long before now
While entertaining and exciting neither of these teams would be able to live with Derry
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If we bring back replays next year from PQFs on it will take about 9 weekends to play the knockout stages because
"You can't have amateur players playing 3 weekends in a row"
If we push AI Finals back to say 2nd and 3rd weekends in August you'll be back to rushed Club Championships in Counties getting to closing stages. Remember "fix the fixtures"?
Listening to Cavanagh on the SG ranting about a replay next weekend... did he hear about the Hurling Semi Finals or did he want the game in Thurles, Limerick or Cork?
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Where do you get the time for replays? Like honestly, where? Is it only for quarter finals onwards, what about provincials? Simply put, with the new calendar, we've no place. Sure, there's a weekend coming up next, but that's set for hurling, and if we did decide to throw in a replay, one team would be out 3 weekends in a row. And wasn't next weekend always set as a day off? What if the players had something organised, and would have to cancel and such. Look, penalties are harsh enough way, but we all knew before the season started that it was this way, no replays. We'll get used to it. It's better this way in the long run
I agree you make the rules at the start so yesterday had to be decided that way. However when the plan becomes reality and you see an epic game in the All Ireland series going that way, with players cramping up some common sense has to take over.
We are not soccer and these are not professional players, they give a huge commitment to their county and getting to the All Ireland series takes a lot of hard work. The All Ireland Final has replays, my point is this needs and I expect will be extended to at least one replay throughout the All Ireland series ( QF onwards).
The inter county season will have to be extended by a few weeks but from a marketing perspective this season's championships have been a disaster so I expect All Ireland Finals to be pushed back into August anyhow after a review so there is space.
Amateur players have every right to take up opportunities in America but it shows a lot will use the short season for this benefit other than return straight back to the clubs, obviously not every players does this but the numbers are high. This is unlikely to be lost on the GAA when they review the split season dates and that is another reason I think we'll see All Ireland Finals being played in August.
Replays are done, we've known about it this year and need to accept it. Yes, we're not soccer, but penalties have been a part of our game for ages now, so it's not like it's something not from the game. With the calendar we set out, and load on players, it's finish on the day and we just need to get with it. It's harsh, but we know our winners now. They tried other things and they didn't work as well
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When you don’t win a match, you do not deserve to stay in a competition.
The winners of a penalty shoot out are lucky. They only remain in the competition because we need even number of teams at each stage. The losers…. they get what they deserve.
People should rein in sob stories for teams that weren’t good enough to win.
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A lot of talking points.
The red card was harsh enough
ONeill could have saw red for a slap to the face - got a yellow instead so not sure how it was a yellow
Armagh #2 barged into Comer on the way off the field - that started the row - but bar the eye gouging nothing else really happened and the two boys who got the reds can feel rightly aggrieved
A lengthy ban for the eye gouging - the pitchforks are out in force online for that fella.
Galway keeper will not enjoy the game v Derry if he plays - will be put under immense pressure after yesterday
If people had such an issue with penalties then they should have been brought up long before now
While entertaining and exciting neither of these teams would be able to live with Derry
I know it was the league, not sure the importance of that game to Derry had they beaten Galway, but they won handy enough in Owenbeg, and certainly won't fear them. Bar that crazy 7 minutes Galway were winning handy enough..
Good to see a 'proper' set of semi finals winners of the provinces, Derry played the weakest team and did what they had to do, Dublin could have done better but they'll be happy enough. Kerry didnt play as well as they have done and Galway will be confident enough
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Where do you get the time for replays? Like honestly, where? Is it only for quarter finals onwards, what about provincials? Simply put, with the new calendar, we've no place. Sure, there's a weekend coming up next, but that's set for hurling, and if we did decide to throw in a replay, one team would be out 3 weekends in a row. And wasn't next weekend always set as a day off? What if the players had something organised, and would have to cancel and such. Look, penalties are harsh enough way, but we all knew before the season started that it was this way, no replays. We'll get used to it. It's better this way in the long run
I agree you make the rules at the start so yesterday had to be decided that way. However when the plan becomes reality and you see an epic game in the All Ireland series going that way, with players cramping up some common sense has to take over.
We are not soccer and these are not professional players, they give a huge commitment to their county and getting to the All Ireland series takes a lot of hard work. The All Ireland Final has replays, my point is this needs and I expect will be extended to at least one replay throughout the All Ireland series ( QF onwards).
The inter county season will have to be extended by a few weeks but from a marketing perspective this season's championships have been a disaster so I expect All Ireland Finals to be pushed back into August anyhow after a review so there is space.
Amateur players have every right to take up opportunities in America but it shows a lot will use the short season for this benefit other than return straight back to the clubs, obviously not every players does this but the numbers are high. This is unlikely to be lost on the GAA when they review the split season dates and that is another reason I think we'll see All Ireland Finals being played in August.
Replays are done, we've known about it this year and need to accept it. Yes, we're not soccer, but penalties have been a part of our game for ages now, so it's not like it's something not from the game. With the calendar we set out, and load on players, it's finish on the day and we just need to get with it. It's harsh, but we know our winners now. They tried other things and they didn't work as well
I guess at the minute replays are gone but it isn't a rule can never be reviewed again. We try things and review them which is the right thing to do.
There is a huge opinion out there this morning that deciding an All Ireland QF on penalties was wrong led by a football legend and Galway manager who won them yesterday.
It needs a review and in my opinion I fully expect they will be reviewed in the wider split season discussion. It is a football side of things people disagree with it on but from a business viewpoint the GAA lost at least 30,000 ticket sales depending on what venue would of been available, is this sustainable when the reason for the split season isn't having the planned effect ie inter county players immediately returning to their clubs earlier!
We're trying to find the perfect system and there will be some trial and error over the next few years with it, my guess is replays will be included throughout the All Ireland series going forward with space found to accommdate them.
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Where do you get the time for replays? Like honestly, where? Is it only for quarter finals onwards, what about provincials? Simply put, with the new calendar, we've no place. Sure, there's a weekend coming up next, but that's set for hurling, and if we did decide to throw in a replay, one team would be out 3 weekends in a row. And wasn't next weekend always set as a day off? What if the players had something organised, and would have to cancel and such. Look, penalties are harsh enough way, but we all knew before the season started that it was this way, no replays. We'll get used to it. It's better this way in the long run
I agree you make the rules at the start so yesterday had to be decided that way. However when the plan becomes reality and you see an epic game in the All Ireland series going that way, with players cramping up some common sense has to take over.
We are not soccer and these are not professional players, they give a huge commitment to their county and getting to the All Ireland series takes a lot of hard work. The All Ireland Final has replays, my point is this needs and I expect will be extended to at least one replay throughout the All Ireland series ( QF onwards).
The inter county season will have to be extended by a few weeks but from a marketing perspective this season's championships have been a disaster so I expect All Ireland Finals to be pushed back into August anyhow after a review so there is space.
Amateur players have every right to take up opportunities in America but it shows a lot will use the short season for this benefit other than return straight back to the clubs, obviously not every players does this but the numbers are high. This is unlikely to be lost on the GAA when they review the split season dates and that is another reason I think we'll see All Ireland Finals being played in August.
Replays are done, we've known about it this year and need to accept it. Yes, we're not soccer, but penalties have been a part of our game for ages now, so it's not like it's something not from the game. With the calendar we set out, and load on players, it's finish on the day and we just need to get with it. It's harsh, but we know our winners now. They tried other things and they didn't work as well
I guess at the minute replays are gone but it isn't a rule can never be reviewed again. We try things and review them which is the right thing to do.
There is a huge opinion out there this morning that deciding an All Ireland QF on penalties was wrong led by a football legend and Galway manager who won them yesterday.
It needs a review and in my opinion I fully expect they will be reviewed in the wider split season discussion. It is a football side of things people disagree with it on but from a business viewpoint the GAA lost at least 30,000 ticket sales depending on what venue would of been available, is this sustainable when the reason for the split season isn't having the planned effect ie inter county players immediately returning to their clubs earlier!
We're trying to find the perfect system and there will be some trial and error over the next few years with it, my guess is replays will be included throughout the All Ireland series going forward with space found to accommdate them.
Impossible, penalties are a necessary evil, the days or replays are gone, for better and worse, times change, needs must
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There is absolutely nothing wrong with penalties. Anyone who expects players and fans to go to croke park 3 weekends in a row in the middle of a cost of living crisis forgets all the whinging there used to be about how expensive it was for families beforehand.
I feel like some people just do not want anything that comes from soccer in the GAA. Its anglophobia and belongs in the past.
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Where do you get the time for replays? Like honestly, where? Is it only for quarter finals onwards, what about provincials? Simply put, with the new calendar, we've no place. Sure, there's a weekend coming up next, but that's set for hurling, and if we did decide to throw in a replay, one team would be out 3 weekends in a row. And wasn't next weekend always set as a day off? What if the players had something organised, and would have to cancel and such. Look, penalties are harsh enough way, but we all knew before the season started that it was this way, no replays. We'll get used to it. It's better this way in the long run
I agree you make the rules at the start so yesterday had to be decided that way. However when the plan becomes reality and you see an epic game in the All Ireland series going that way, with players cramping up some common sense has to take over.
We are not soccer and these are not professional players, they give a huge commitment to their county and getting to the All Ireland series takes a lot of hard work. The All Ireland Final has replays, my point is this needs and I expect will be extended to at least one replay throughout the All Ireland series ( QF onwards).
The inter county season will have to be extended by a few weeks but from a marketing perspective this season's championships have been a disaster so I expect All Ireland Finals to be pushed back into August anyhow after a review so there is space.
Amateur players have every right to take up opportunities in America but it shows a lot will use the short season for this benefit other than return straight back to the clubs, obviously not every players does this but the numbers are high. This is unlikely to be lost on the GAA when they review the split season dates and that is another reason I think we'll see All Ireland Finals being played in August.
Replays are done, we've known about it this year and need to accept it. Yes, we're not soccer, but penalties have been a part of our game for ages now, so it's not like it's something not from the game. With the calendar we set out, and load on players, it's finish on the day and we just need to get with it. It's harsh, but we know our winners now. They tried other things and they didn't work as well
I guess at the minute replays are gone but it isn't a rule can never be reviewed again. We try things and review them which is the right thing to do.
There is a huge opinion out there this morning that deciding an All Ireland QF on penalties was wrong led by a football legend and Galway manager who won them yesterday.
It needs a review and in my opinion I fully expect they will be reviewed in the wider split season discussion. It is a football side of things people disagree with it on but from a business viewpoint the GAA lost at least 30,000 ticket sales depending on what venue would of been available, is this sustainable when the reason for the split season isn't having the planned effect ie inter county players immediately returning to their clubs earlier!
We're trying to find the perfect system and there will be some trial and error over the next few years with it, my guess is replays will be included throughout the All Ireland series going forward with space found to accommdate them.
We already tried frees from outside the D and other things. We need a winner, penalties are quick, and we got one. Can't see what's to review here, there's now no space in the calendar. All the other options people have offered or on TSG are far worse than the penalties. It's harsh like I say, but the best option overall when we have to finish on the day.
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Where do you get the time for replays? Like honestly, where? Is it only for quarter finals onwards, what about provincials? Simply put, with the new calendar, we've no place. Sure, there's a weekend coming up next, but that's set for hurling, and if we did decide to throw in a replay, one team would be out 3 weekends in a row. And wasn't next weekend always set as a day off? What if the players had something organised, and would have to cancel and such. Look, penalties are harsh enough way, but we all knew before the season started that it was this way, no replays. We'll get used to it. It's better this way in the long run
I agree you make the rules at the start so yesterday had to be decided that way. However when the plan becomes reality and you see an epic game in the All Ireland series going that way, with players cramping up some common sense has to take over.
We are not soccer and these are not professional players, they give a huge commitment to their county and getting to the All Ireland series takes a lot of hard work. The All Ireland Final has replays, my point is this needs and I expect will be extended to at least one replay throughout the All Ireland series ( QF onwards).
The inter county season will have to be extended by a few weeks but from a marketing perspective this season's championships have been a disaster so I expect All Ireland Finals to be pushed back into August anyhow after a review so there is space.
Amateur players have every right to take up opportunities in America but it shows a lot will use the short season for this benefit other than return straight back to the clubs, obviously not every players does this but the numbers are high. This is unlikely to be lost on the GAA when they review the split season dates and that is another reason I think we'll see All Ireland Finals being played in August.
Replays are done, we've known about it this year and need to accept it. Yes, we're not soccer, but penalties have been a part of our game for ages now, so it's not like it's something not from the game. With the calendar we set out, and load on players, it's finish on the day and we just need to get with it. It's harsh, but we know our winners now. They tried other things and they didn't work as well
I guess at the minute replays are gone but it isn't a rule can never be reviewed again. We try things and review them which is the right thing to do.
There is a huge opinion out there this morning that deciding an All Ireland QF on penalties was wrong led by a football legend and Galway manager who won them yesterday.
It needs a review and in my opinion I fully expect they will be reviewed in the wider split season discussion. It is a football side of things people disagree with it on but from a business viewpoint the GAA lost at least 30,000 ticket sales depending on what venue would of been available, is this sustainable when the reason for the split season isn't having the planned effect ie inter county players immediately returning to their clubs earlier!
We're trying to find the perfect system and there will be some trial and error over the next few years with it, my guess is replays will be included throughout the All Ireland series going forward with space found to accommdate them.
Impossible, penalties are a necessary evil, the days or replays are gone, for better and worse, times change, needs must
We'll agree to disagree, in the world of finance the GAA will listen to the likes of Joyce and the public opinion on using penalties, with pressure being applied from sponsors and media. We seen the reality of the plan yesterday and I expect some head scratching in Croke Park this morning with some sponsors/media on the phone.
There would have to be compromise and the Dublin Meath saga could never happen again but after such a high profile game yesterday the GAA will use it to make a slight change again imo.
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We'll agree to disagree, in the world of finance the GAA will listen to the likes of Joyce and the public opinion on using penalties, with pressure being applied from sponsors and media. We seen the reality of the plan yesterday and I expect some head scratching in Croke Park this morning. There would have to be compromise and the Dublin Meath saga could never happen again but after such a high profile game yesterday the GAA will use it to make a slight change again imo.
The world of finance? The GAA are turning down lucrative replays here. For once, we can't throw the finance thing at them
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That we borrowed penalties from soccer is not an issue. It’s a coin toss with an element of skill. Like poker.
But based on yesterday we also seem to have borrowed soccer’s bizarre attitude to the closing stages of extra time, when both sides seemed to concur that it’s better to take your chance on penalties than try to win the game on the field.
Why do soccer managers follow this mantra? Seeing out games they could win.
Hence I really think GAA folk need to get ahead with the concept that if you don’t win the game, you don’t deserve to go through. If this approach is loved by players in the closing stages of tight games, it would make for a more thrilling spectacle.
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There is absolutely nothing wrong with penalties. Anyone who expects players and fans to go to croke park 3 weekends in a row in the middle of a cost of living crisis forgets all the whinging there used to be about how expensive it was for families beforehand.
I feel like some people just do not want anything that comes from soccer in the GAA. Its anglophobia and belongs in the past.
We're living through a take your beatings crisis in the GAA where priority is whining like f**k about everything except the fact your team was second best and accepting defeat like a he/she/they/them
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Penalties is not a gaa skill and should never be used to determine the winner of such an important match - it's a lottery. At this stage of championship I'd prefer replays (with a much reduced admission price). If this isn't possible then ball thrown in again and next score wins (toss for who plays which way - the wind might be an advantage). This would make much more sense than penalties and wouldn't take too long to determine the winner.
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There is absolutely nothing wrong with penalties. Anyone who expects players and fans to go to croke park 3 weekends in a row in the middle of a cost of living crisis forgets all the whinging there used to be about how expensive it was for families beforehand.
I feel like some people just do not want anything that comes from soccer in the GAA. Its anglophobia and belongs in the past.
Indeed, we've had penalties in GAA for ages now, so a penalty shootout is not a far reach. And not just soccer. Penalty shootouts happen in other sport too, like ice hockey. And I think it's the best option. Each team has a chance to either take or save each one. Can't do that with frees or 45s. Yesterday both takers and keepers had the chance to effect the results of the game, and Galway came out winners. Armagh had their chances
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We'll agree to disagree, in the world of finance the GAA will listen to the likes of Joyce and the public opinion on using penalties, with pressure being applied from sponsors and media. We seen the reality of the plan yesterday and I expect some head scratching in Croke Park this morning. There would have to be compromise and the Dublin Meath saga could never happen again but after such a high profile game yesterday the GAA will use it to make a slight change again imo.
The world of finance? The GAA are turning down lucrative replays here. For once, we can't throw the finance thing at them
😂.. no we can't to be fair but is it sustainable? My opinion like many is more about fairness on the players but when we think about it, the GAA are potentially throwing away over €1million, imagine a semi final goes the same way as yesterday. Media and sponsors would of loved another Armagh v Galway game in a packed stadium. I think decide on the day in the first match is crazy and when common sense takes over the authorities will all agree.
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Penalties is not a gaa skill and should never be used to determine the winner of such an important match - it's a lottery. At this stage of championship I'd prefer replays (with a much reduced admission price). If this isn't possible then ball thrown in again and next score wins (toss for who plays which way - the wind might be an advantage). This would make much more sense than penalties and wouldn't take too long to determine the winner.
Well I must have missed it when penalties have been used in GAA for ages now for fouls in the box. And not a lottery, both the taker and keeper can affect the outcome of the kick. Nowhere near a lottery at all. Galway supposedly practiced them, at the end of challenge matches. They trained for it, and won it.
How does next score win work in a gale force win? That now is far more of a lottery than penalties... You can't call it that, and then give that suggestion.
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We'll agree to disagree, in the world of finance the GAA will listen to the likes of Joyce and the public opinion on using penalties, with pressure being applied from sponsors and media. We seen the reality of the plan yesterday and I expect some head scratching in Croke Park this morning. There would have to be compromise and the Dublin Meath saga could never happen again but after such a high profile game yesterday the GAA will use it to make a slight change again imo.
The world of finance? The GAA are turning down lucrative replays here. For once, we can't throw the finance thing at them
😂.. no we can't to be fair but is it sustainable? My opinion like many is more about fairness on the players but when we think about it, the GAA are potentially throwing away over €1million, imagine a semi final goes the same way as yesterday. Media and sponsors would of loved another Armagh v Galway game in a packed stadium. I think decide on the day in the first match is crazy and when common sense takes over the authorities will all agree.
But we can't have it both ways, especially in these times. Are we expecting players and supporters of one of teh teams go out to Croke Park 3 weekends in a row now? We've known about this all year. A big game would always have these discussions, but we'll get used to it and move on
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Think i'd prefer penalties taken from the hands if we have to have penalty shootouts. People saying that other sports have penalties, but those penalties represent skills and actions that are practiced and performed in all moments of training/games, gaelic football does not have this. Only a few players on each team practice hitting stationary ballls from the ground into the net or over the bar, and these skills are often practiced outside of actually training time. What we need is something that all players partake in, at all times, a skill innate to the game
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We'll agree to disagree, in the world of finance the GAA will listen to the likes of Joyce and the public opinion on using penalties, with pressure being applied from sponsors and media. We seen the reality of the plan yesterday and I expect some head scratching in Croke Park this morning. There would have to be compromise and the Dublin Meath saga could never happen again but after such a high profile game yesterday the GAA will use it to make a slight change again imo.
The world of finance? The GAA are turning down lucrative replays here. For once, we can't throw the finance thing at them
😂.. no we can't to be fair but is it sustainable? My opinion like many is more about fairness on the players but when we think about it, the GAA are potentially throwing away over €1million, imagine a semi final goes the same way as yesterday. Media and sponsors would of loved another Armagh v Galway game in a packed stadium. I think decide on the day in the first match is crazy and when common sense takes over the authorities will all agree.
But we can't have it both ways, especially in these times. Are we expecting players and supporters of one of teh teams go out to Croke Park 3 weekends in a row now? We've known about this all year. A big game would always have these discussions, but we'll get used to it and move on
Happily. Cut ticket prices for a replay though.
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We'll agree to disagree, in the world of finance the GAA will listen to the likes of Joyce and the public opinion on using penalties, with pressure being applied from sponsors and media. We seen the reality of the plan yesterday and I expect some head scratching in Croke Park this morning. There would have to be compromise and the Dublin Meath saga could never happen again but after such a high profile game yesterday the GAA will use it to make a slight change again imo.
The world of finance? The GAA are turning down lucrative replays here. For once, we can't throw the finance thing at them
😂.. no we can't to be fair but is it sustainable? My opinion like many is more about fairness on the players but when we think about it, the GAA are potentially throwing away over €1million, imagine a semi final goes the same way as yesterday. Media and sponsors would of loved another Armagh v Galway game in a packed stadium. I think decide on the day in the first match is crazy and when common sense takes over the authorities will all agree.
But we can't have it both ways, especially in these times. Are we expecting players and supporters of one of teh teams go out to Croke Park 3 weekends in a row now? We've known about this all year. A big game would always have these discussions, but we'll get used to it and move on
No we wouldn't expect that or shouldn't but that is why pushing the All Ireland Finals into August would allow the space for at least one replay if required. We aren't going to agree which is ok, lets see what happens when the split season is fully reviewed which is planned.
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Penalties is not a gaa skill and should never be used to determine the winner of such an important match - it's a lottery. At this stage of championship I'd prefer replays (with a much reduced admission price). If this isn't possible then ball thrown in again and next score wins (toss for who plays which way - the wind might be an advantage). This would make much more sense than penalties and wouldn't take too long to determine the winner.
Well I must have missed it when penalties have been used in GAA for ages now for fouls in the box. And not a lottery, both the taker and keeper can affect the outcome of the kick. Nowhere near a lottery at all. Galway supposedly practiced them, at the end of challenge matches. They trained for it, and won it.
How does next score win work in a gale force win? That now is far more of a lottery than penalties... You can't call it that, and then give that suggestion.
It's a lottery as it's not a skill of the game. I'd much prefer the game won using next score. The wind could be a factor (but won't be a lot of times for big games in the summer) but that's part of every match (sometimes it only picks up for a half giving a team advantage etc).
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There is absolutely nothing wrong with penalties. Anyone who expects players and fans to go to croke park 3 weekends in a row in the middle of a cost of living crisis forgets all the whinging there used to be about how expensive it was for families beforehand.
I feel like some people just do not want anything that comes from soccer in the GAA. Its anglophobia and belongs in the past.
Penalties:
Losers hate them obviously.
Winners are happy but will say it's a terrible way to lose blah, blah, blah.
Neutrals think it's the best way to finish on the day.
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There is absolutely nothing wrong with penalties. Anyone who expects players and fans to go to croke park 3 weekends in a row in the middle of a cost of living crisis forgets all the whinging there used to be about how expensive it was for families beforehand.
I feel like some people just do not want anything that comes from soccer in the GAA. Its anglophobia and belongs in the past.
Penalties:
Losers hate them obviously.
Winners are happy but will say it's a terrible way to lose blah, blah, blah.
Neutrals think it's the best way to finish on the day.
Most neutrals seem to be saying it’s no way to lose any match.
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Think i'd prefer penalties taken from the hands if we have to have penalty shootouts. People saying that other sports have penalties, but those penalties represent skills and actions that are practiced and performed in all moments of training/games, gaelic football does not have this. Only a few players on each team practice hitting stationary ballls from the ground into the net or over the bar, and these skills are often practiced outside of actually training time. What we need is something that all players partake in, at all times, a skill innate to the game
What fresh hell is this 😭
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There is absolutely nothing wrong with penalties. Anyone who expects players and fans to go to croke park 3 weekends in a row in the middle of a cost of living crisis forgets all the whinging there used to be about how expensive it was for families beforehand.
I feel like some people just do not want anything that comes from soccer in the GAA. Its anglophobia and belongs in the past.
Penalties:
Losers hate them obviously.
Winners are happy but will say it's a terrible way to lose blah, blah, blah.
Neutrals think it's the best way to finish on the day.
Most neutrals seem to be saying it’s no way to lose any match.
Yeah, but it's the way these games finish.
You'd think, from Armagh's point of view, that the referee just decided on penalties himself at the end of extra-time.
Sour grapes - Armagh lost. Raw now but that's life. It happened in the Munster game earlier this year and no one, outside Clare and Limerick, gave a fiddlers. It happens in club games. Get over it ffs.
The main issue is this;
In the cold light of day, Galway were the better team. They almost threw it away. Galway were 6 or 7 pts up in the 70+ mins. Armagh got lucky with the goals. Papered over that they were badly outplayed.
That's the reality.
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The mask slipped again. Same old Armagh. They could start a fight over the drop of a hat. I wonder if it's that same old bitterness "ye forgot about us" begrudgery that a lot of republican nordies seem to harbour? Whatever the reason, I'm glad they have been well and truly exposed to the neutral.
Nice wee bit of trolling there. Galway man on TSG said it was started by Galway, but lets see the full video before jumping to conclusions.
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If a game finishes in a draw, extra time. If extra time finishes in a draw, replay. If the second game finishes in a draw after extra time, then penos to decide victor. Golden score or up to 3 points is not an option due to wind factor.
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There is absolutely nothing wrong with penalties. Anyone who expects players and fans to go to croke park 3 weekends in a row in the middle of a cost of living crisis forgets all the whinging there used to be about how expensive it was for families beforehand.
I feel like some people just do not want anything that comes from soccer in the GAA. Its anglophobia and belongs in the past.
Penalties:
Losers hate them obviously.
Winners are happy but will say it's a terrible way to lose blah, blah, blah.
Neutrals think it's the best way to finish on the day.
Most neutrals seem to be saying it’s no way to lose any match.
Yeah, but it's the way these games finish.
You'd think, from Armagh's point of view, that the referee just decided on penalties himself at the end of extra-time.
Sour grapes - Armagh lost. Raw now but that's life. It happened in the Munster game earlier this year and no one, outside Clare and Limerick, gave a fiddlers. It happens in club games. Get over it ffs.
The main issue is this;
In the cold light of day, Galway were the better team. They almost threw it away. Galway were 6 or 7 pts up in the 70+ mins. Armagh got lucky with the goals. Papered over that they were badly outplayed.
That's the reality.
The most vocal opponents to the pens post game was actually Pádraic Joyce and Sean Cavanagh. This goes beyond 'sour grapes' which I don't think the discussion is about. I think most football people accept it's a problem that needs looking at. I'd much rather listen to legends of the game to be honest who understand the effort required to compete at inter county level.
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If the eye gouge wasn’t intentional then what was he trying to do? I don’t understand how it couldn’t have been intentional tbh.
It looked pretty bad on TV, I can't see any mitigation, but heat of the moment and will surely be severely dealt with and rightly so but some of the stuff on twitter is way beyond the pale.
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It was always going to happen.
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Everybody knew this rule for a while, was there any mass objection at the annual convention, more a attitude it never happen to us. Reality is Galway were better in most positions yesterday. Armagh had got well on top first 20/25mins but struggled badly in the 2nd Half, extra time was a even affair. Best game in years as some say, was littered with mistakes and 3 goalkeeper/defensive errors from Galway kept Armagh in the game. Only Campbell stood out for Armagh, as expected if you reduce O'Neill impact from play, Armagh do not have the threats elsewhere to heavily score.
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PJ
https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2022/0626/1306973-joyce-choice-of-penalties-by-the-gaa-is-disgraceful/
"Overall I was impressed with the boys; they showed great character, and finally Galway have won a big match in Croke Park."
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A lot of talking points.
The red card was harsh enough
ONeill could have saw red for a slap to the face - got a yellow instead so not sure how it was a yellow
Armagh #2 barged into Comer on the way off the field - that started the row - but bar the eye gouging nothing else really happened and the two boys who got the reds can feel rightly aggrieved
A lengthy ban for the eye gouging - the pitchforks are out in force online for that fella.
Galway keeper will not enjoy the game v Derry if he plays - will be put under immense pressure after yesterday
If people had such an issue with penalties then they should have been brought up long before now
While entertaining and exciting neither of these teams would be able to live with Derry
Not so sure about that. I'd expect Galway to give Derry plenty of craic.
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Not much chat of the time wasting in the second half from Galway when they went in front.
The amount of stoppages was scandalous and much of it play acting from their players.
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If we had won that match it would have been a great steal but it is still hard to take given the nature of the defeat. That said I don't understand all the hand wringing over penalty kicks. The rules are the same for both sides and we had 100+ minutes to win the match and didn't do so. As well as Rafferty played, I thought that Armagh should have brought on an actual shot stopper for the penalty kicks. That was a huge mistake by management.
Kelly will get suspended for the gouging incident but he is a young lad who got carried away with the emotion and will have regrets this morning but some of the reaction is way ott.
As a fellow Ulster man I would like to see Derry get to an AI final but nor would I be too disappointed to see Galway there either as they have great supporters and have a long tradition of producing great footballers none more so than Padraig Joyce who was very gracious in victory afterwards.
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We'll agree to disagree, in the world of finance the GAA will listen to the likes of Joyce and the public opinion on using penalties, with pressure being applied from sponsors and media. We seen the reality of the plan yesterday and I expect some head scratching in Croke Park this morning. There would have to be compromise and the Dublin Meath saga could never happen again but after such a high profile game yesterday the GAA will use it to make a slight change again imo.
The world of finance? The GAA are turning down lucrative replays here. For once, we can't throw the finance thing at them
😂.. no we can't to be fair but is it sustainable? My opinion like many is more about fairness on the players but when we think about it, the GAA are potentially throwing away over €1million, imagine a semi final goes the same way as yesterday. Media and sponsors would of loved another Armagh v Galway game in a packed stadium. I think decide on the day in the first match is crazy and when common sense takes over the authorities will all agree.
But we can't have it both ways, especially in these times. Are we expecting players and supporters of one of teh teams go out to Croke Park 3 weekends in a row now? We've known about this all year. A big game would always have these discussions, but we'll get used to it and move on
Happily. Cut ticket prices for a replay though.
Well of course you'd say that this morning. But it's not just price (and they used to cut replay prices alright). Just next weekend was meant to be off for players, and now we have some saying 3 weeks in a row is no issue, with the final 2 weeks after. Potentially 4 games in 5 weeks? Nah way...
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Penalties is not a gaa skill and should never be used to determine the winner of such an important match - it's a lottery. At this stage of championship I'd prefer replays (with a much reduced admission price). If this isn't possible then ball thrown in again and next score wins (toss for who plays which way - the wind might be an advantage). This would make much more sense than penalties and wouldn't take too long to determine the winner.
Well I must have missed it when penalties have been used in GAA for ages now for fouls in the box. And not a lottery, both the taker and keeper can affect the outcome of the kick. Nowhere near a lottery at all. Galway supposedly practiced them, at the end of challenge matches. They trained for it, and won it.
How does next score win work in a gale force win? That now is far more of a lottery than penalties... You can't call it that, and then give that suggestion.
It's a lottery as it's not a skill of the game. I'd much prefer the game won using next score. The wind could be a factor (but won't be a lot of times for big games in the summer) but that's part of every match (sometimes it only picks up for a half giving a team advantage etc).
How so? It is a skill of the game. If we're at a point where 5 inter County players selected can't take a penalty then we're in a bad place. Most teams have a fair few players who take placed balls, even at club level. Getting 5 to take them is not a huge deal for players at this level. It's far less a lottery than your other suggestion
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I thought the red card was wrong and only a yellow originally but the replays showed different. Armagh should lost Morgan as well.
The red was probably correct but a yellow would also have been ok, just timed it wrong and it was a clash of heads that caused the damage, but as an Armagh man I can't complain. On Morgan though after he was deservedly yellow carded he was targeted by Galway for the second yellow and I think that's what saved him. Its an aspect of the game that I don't like trying to get players sent off.
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There is absolutely nothing wrong with penalties. Anyone who expects players and fans to go to croke park 3 weekends in a row in the middle of a cost of living crisis forgets all the whinging there used to be about how expensive it was for families beforehand.
I feel like some people just do not want anything that comes from soccer in the GAA. Its anglophobia and belongs in the past.
Penalties:
Losers hate them obviously.
Winners are happy but will say it's a terrible way to lose blah, blah, blah.
Neutrals think it's the best way to finish on the day.
Most neutrals seem to be saying it’s no way to lose any match.
Yeah, but it's the way these games finish.
You'd think, from Armagh's point of view, that the referee just decided on penalties himself at the end of extra-time.
Sour grapes - Armagh lost. Raw now but that's life. It happened in the Munster game earlier this year and no one, outside Clare and Limerick, gave a fiddlers. It happens in club games. Get over it ffs.
The main issue is this;
In the cold light of day, Galway were the better team. They almost threw it away. Galway were 6 or 7 pts up in the 70+ mins. Armagh got lucky with the goals. Papered over that they were badly outplayed.
That's the reality.
So if Galway were the better team, why take penalties at all then? Why not just award them the semi final place based on that?
Regardless of who was better on the day, the number of points on the scoreboard is what matters. The better team doesn’t always win.
I’m sure most Armagh fans would admit Galway were better but what does that matter ? None of them would care about how good or bad their teams performance was yesterday as long as they were in the AI semi final
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Everybody knew this rule for a while, was there any mass objection at the annual convention, more a attitude it never happen to us. Reality is Galway were better in most positions yesterday. Armagh had got well on top first 20/25mins but struggled badly in the 2nd Half, extra time was a even affair. Best game in years as some say, was littered with mistakes and 3 goalkeeper/defensive errors from Galway kept Armagh in the game. Only Campbell stood out for Armagh, as expected if you reduce O'Neill impact from play, Armagh do not have the threats elsewhere to heavily score.
Galway probably did shade it but they weren't way out in front and ultimately didn't beat Armagh in open play. I actually thought Armagh shaded extra time. Armagh will get over it and take great heart from not playing as well as they can but not losing the match over 90 minutes. I do expect Galway to reach the final which should give Armagh even more hope how close they are.
As for O'Neill - what a free, might win him an All Star and Rafferty might not be far from one either.
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Morgan got nothing at the time for hitting Walsh on the blindside.
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Not much chat of the time wasting in the second half from Galway when they went in front.
The amount of stoppages was scandalous and much of it play acting from their players.
The timewasting from Galway came back to bite at the end of normal time. That extra 8 minutes gave Armagh and the supporters a massive lift. Galway probably gambled the ref would just give the standard 3 or 4.
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And what about the nxt time their another Armagh melee, will the subs ever learn to stay out of it, if the managers attitude is, someone pushes you, push them back. He still on the playground in primary school or sthing?
Nothing wrong with that attitude and I’d say you’ not find too many successful footballers or people in general life who’d disagree with McGeeney.
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Morgan got nothing at the time for hitting Walsh on the blindside.
Didn’t see that. Walsh could have had a black when he took Morgan out off the ball after Morgan was on a yellow.
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The only suspension out of it all should be the Armagh eye gouger - the rest was handbags - bit of pushing
Understandably one of the Galway lads threw a punch at the gouger so might be in bother if the video is looked at closely. The GAA need to look at how they manage games, yesterday they could have been in dressing rooms at opposite sides of the pitch which would have avoided this type of thing.
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And what about the nxt time their another Armagh melee, will the subs ever learn to stay out of it, if the managers attitude is, someone pushes you, push them back. He still on the playground in primary school or sthing?
Ive seen enough melees in Derry club football, is it different when you boys do it? Comer started it, Armagh fell for it. If/when Kelly gets his ban there won’t be too many in Armagh defending him.
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Everybody knew this rule for a while, was there any mass objection at the annual convention, more a attitude it never happen to us. Reality is Galway were better in most positions yesterday. Armagh had got well on top first 20/25mins but struggled badly in the 2nd Half, extra time was a even affair. Best game in years as some say, was littered with mistakes and 3 goalkeeper/defensive errors from Galway kept Armagh in the game. Only Campbell stood out for Armagh, as expected if you reduce O'Neill impact from play, Armagh do not have the threats elsewhere to heavily score.
Galway probably did shade it but they weren't way out in front and ultimately didn't beat Armagh in open play. I actually thought Armagh shaded extra time. Armagh will get over it and take great heart from not playing as well as they can but not losing the match over 90 minutes. I do expect Galway to reach the final which should give Armagh even more hope how close they are.
As for O'Neill - what a free, might win him an All Star and Rafferty might not be far from one either.
A team that won only two qualifiers won't get any All Stars. Galway won't win the All Ireland as their defense isn't good enough. A game they were in control of with a 5 minutes to go and they conceded junior b golas to give Armagh a draw. Derry will beat Galway. Credit to both teams for a very enjoyable game, a mix of everything in it. Outside of Kellys pathetic and trampish behaviour there was only abit of pushing shoving and wrestling. FFs it added to the occassion.
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There is absolutely nothing wrong with penalties. Anyone who expects players and fans to go to croke park 3 weekends in a row in the middle of a cost of living crisis forgets all the whinging there used to be about how expensive it was for families beforehand.
I feel like some people just do not want anything that comes from soccer in the GAA. Its anglophobia and belongs in the past.
Penalties:
Losers hate them obviously.
Winners are happy but will say it's a terrible way to lose blah, blah, blah.
Neutrals think it's the best way to finish on the day.
Most neutrals seem to be saying it’s no way to lose any match.
Yeah, but it's the way these games finish.
You'd think, from Armagh's point of view, that the referee just decided on penalties himself at the end of extra-time.
Sour grapes - Armagh lost. Raw now but that's life. It happened in the Munster game earlier this year and no one, outside Clare and Limerick, gave a fiddlers. It happens in club games. Get over it ffs.
The main issue is this;
In the cold light of day, Galway were the better team. They almost threw it away. Galway were 6 or 7 pts up in the 70+ mins. Armagh got lucky with the goals. Papered over that they were badly outplayed.
That's the reality.
The most vocal opponents to the pens post game was actually Pádraic Joyce and Sean Cavanagh. This goes beyond 'sour grapes' which I don't think the discussion is about. I think most football people accept it's a problem that needs looking at. I'd much rather listen to legends of the game to be honest who understand the effort required to compete at inter county level.
It is sour grapes.
As time passes, this will all move on. Of course Joyce would say that - every winning manager says that. It's the norm.
I don't like penalties either but it's the way it is.
I never hear a team in the run up to a match complaining about penalties being on the cards.
Galway probably practisied penalty kicks during the week. Did Armagh I wonder?
Armagh were well beat, got lucky with a few high balls but Galway were the better team.
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The only suspension out of it all should be the Armagh eye gouger - the rest was handbags - bit of pushing
Understandably one of the Galway lads threw a punch at the gouger so might be in bother if the video is looked at closely. The GAA need to look at how they manage games, yesterday they could have been in dressing rooms at opposite sides of the pitch which would have avoided this type of thing.
I really hope theres no further action taken apart from TK who should get a ban. What did all those Dublin and Kerry players get for eye gouging those times? Something similar to that. Hope the lad who threw a punch at him doesn’t get cited and that Kelly (Galway) gets back for the semi.
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On the actual game, Galway shaded it one the 70 minutes, fairly even in ET imo. Penalties not the way to end it again imo. Armagh had chances to win it, two goal chances spurned prior to Galway revival in the first half and Rowland at the end took on a difficult shot with space in front of him. That said had it gone over he'd a hero.
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If we had won that match it would have been a great steal but it is still hard to take given the nature of the defeat. That said I don't understand all the hand wringing over penalty kicks. The rules are the same for both sides and we had 100+ minutes to win the match and didn't do so. As well as Rafferty played, I thought that Armagh should have brought on an actual shot stopper for the penalty kicks. That was a huge mistake by management.
Kelly will get suspended for the gouging incident but he is a young lad who got carried away with the emotion and will have regrets this morning but some of the reaction is way ott.
As a fellow Ulster man I would like to see Derry get to an AI final but nor would I be too disappointed to see Galway there either as they have great supporters and have a long tradition of producing great footballers none more so than Padraig Joyce who was very gracious in victory afterwards.
Good post Yellowcard.
Funnily enough, lads on tv were talking about changing Rafferty for a 'normal keeper' in the last minute of extra-time.
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Highly disappointing to see us involved in another fracas. It has to stop. I can't fathom that our management would send the players out to do that - but it's something that has to be forcibly drilled in from here on. No more of it. If the GAA don't have anything in place to stop 2 teams who are pumped up after a hard fought finish running down the tunnel together then we have to get our own house in order and instruct our players to wait on the pitch.
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If we had won that match it would have been a great steal but it is still hard to take given the nature of the defeat. That said I don't understand all the hand wringing over penalty kicks. The rules are the same for both sides and we had 100+ minutes to win the match and didn't do so. As well as Rafferty played, I thought that Armagh should have brought on an actual shot stopper for the penalty kicks. That was a huge mistake by management.
Kelly will get suspended for the gouging incident but he is a young lad who got carried away with the emotion and will have regrets this morning but some of the reaction is way ott.
As a fellow Ulster man I would like to see Derry get to an AI final but nor would I be too disappointed to see Galway there either as they have great supporters and have a long tradition of producing great footballers none more so than Padraig Joyce who was very gracious in victory afterwards.
Good post Yellowcard.
Funnily enough, lads on tv were talking about changing Rafferty for a 'normal keeper' in the last minute of extra-time.
It was the first thought that entered my head. Shit, can Ethan dive? He couldn't have done much about the penalties though. They were well taken. The Galway keeper didn't have to make a save on the 2 we missed.
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Highly disappointing to see us involved in another fracas. It has to stop. I can't fathom that our management would send the players out to do that - but it's something that has to be forcibly drilled in from here on. No more of it. If the GAA don't have anything in place to stop 2 teams who are pumped up after a hard fought finish running down the tunnel together then we have to get our own house in order and instruct our players to wait on the pitch.
It wasn't the GAA fault
Its hard to believe that its not drilled into Armagh to start rows considering the amount of incidents Armagh are involved in
Its rumoured they coach MMA
Ironically one of the only things barred in MMA is eye gouging!
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There is absolutely nothing wrong with penalties. Anyone who expects players and fans to go to croke park 3 weekends in a row in the middle of a cost of living crisis forgets all the whinging there used to be about how expensive it was for families beforehand.
I feel like some people just do not want anything that comes from soccer in the GAA. Its anglophobia and belongs in the past.
Penalties:
Losers hate them obviously.
Winners are happy but will say it's a terrible way to lose blah, blah, blah.
Neutrals think it's the best way to finish on the day.
Most neutrals seem to be saying it’s no way to lose any match.
Yeah, but it's the way these games finish.
You'd think, from Armagh's point of view, that the referee just decided on penalties himself at the end of extra-time.
Sour grapes - Armagh lost. Raw now but that's life. It happened in the Munster game earlier this year and no one, outside Clare and Limerick, gave a fiddlers. It happens in club games. Get over it ffs.
The main issue is this;
In the cold light of day, Galway were the better team. They almost threw it away. Galway were 6 or 7 pts up in the 70+ mins. Armagh got lucky with the goals. Papered over that they were badly outplayed.
That's the reality.
The most vocal opponents to the pens post game was actually Pádraic Joyce and Sean Cavanagh. This goes beyond 'sour grapes' which I don't think the discussion is about. I think most football people accept it's a problem that needs looking at. I'd much rather listen to legends of the game to be honest who understand the effort required to compete at inter county level.
It is sour grapes.
As time passes, this will all move on. Of course Joyce would say that - every winning manager says that. It's the norm.
I don't like penalties either but it's the way it is.
I never hear a team in the run up to a match complaining about penalties being on the cards.
Galway probably practisied penalty kicks during the week. Did Armagh I wonder?
Armagh were well beat, got lucky with a few high balls but Galway were the better team.
Good luck to Galway, they're a serious team and set up who'll get very close to the All Ireland title which will show how good this Armagh team and set up are.
I've huge respect for Joyce for what he has achieved in the game and how he goes about setting his teams up, I'd tend to listen to what he says as he is a football man first and foremost and cares about the game.
As for a team being 'well beat' after drawing 90 minutes of football....are you ok?
I think Armagh's strength was the high ball, they might regret not using it enough but hard to criticise either team after such an epic that neither team lost in 90 minutes of normal play.
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If we had won that match it would have been a great steal but it is still hard to take given the nature of the defeat. That said I don't understand all the hand wringing over penalty kicks. The rules are the same for both sides and we had 100+ minutes to win the match and didn't do so. As well as Rafferty played, I thought that Armagh should have brought on an actual shot stopper for the penalty kicks. That was a huge mistake by management.
Kelly will get suspended for the gouging incident but he is a young lad who got carried away with the emotion and will have regrets this morning but some of the reaction is way ott.
As a fellow Ulster man I would like to see Derry get to an AI final but nor would I be too disappointed to see Galway there either as they have great supporters and have a long tradition of producing great footballers none more so than Padraig Joyce who was very gracious in victory afterwards.
Good post Yellowcard.
Funnily enough, lads on tv were talking about changing Rafferty for a 'normal keeper' in the last minute of extra-time.
Rafferty very close to a couple of the penalties plus he’s a bigger presence in the net than Blaine. Probably one of those where you’re damned if you do, damned if you don’t.
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Highly disappointing to see us involved in another fracas. It has to stop. I can't fathom that our management would send the players out to do that - but it's something that has to be forcibly drilled in from here on. No more of it. If the GAA don't have anything in place to stop 2 teams who are pumped up after a hard fought finish running down the tunnel together then we have to get our own house in order and instruct our players to wait on the pitch.
It wasn't the GAA fault
Its hard to believe that its not drilled into Armagh to start rows considering the amount of incidents Armagh are involved in
Its rumoured they coach MMA
Ironically one of the only things barred in MMA is eye gouging!
Number one Comer started that row which was absolute handbags bar the eye gouge.
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Highly disappointing to see us involved in another fracas. It has to stop. I can't fathom that our management would send the players out to do that - but it's something that has to be forcibly drilled in from here on. No more of it. If the GAA don't have anything in place to stop 2 teams who are pumped up after a hard fought finish running down the tunnel together then we have to get our own house in order and instruct our players to wait on the pitch.
It wasn't the GAA fault
Its hard to believe that its not drilled into Armagh to start rows considering the amount of incidents Armagh are involved in
Its rumoured they coach MMA
Ironically one of the only things barred in MMA is eye gouging!
As much as I dislike them being an opposing county the above is a complete load of shite.
How do you drill it into a team to start rows?
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If we had won that match it would have been a great steal but it is still hard to take given the nature of the defeat. That said I don't understand all the hand wringing over penalty kicks. The rules are the same for both sides and we had 100+ minutes to win the match and didn't do so. As well as Rafferty played, I thought that Armagh should have brought on an actual shot stopper for the penalty kicks. That was a huge mistake by management.
Kelly will get suspended for the gouging incident but he is a young lad who got carried away with the emotion and will have regrets this morning but some of the reaction is way ott.
As a fellow Ulster man I would like to see Derry get to an AI final but nor would I be too disappointed to see Galway there either as they have great supporters and have a long tradition of producing great footballers none more so than Padraig Joyce who was very gracious in victory afterwards.
Good post Yellowcard.
Funnily enough, lads on tv were talking about changing Rafferty for a 'normal keeper' in the last minute of extra-time.
Rafferty very close to a couple of the penalties plus he’s a bigger presence in the net than Blaine. Probably one of those where you’re damned if you do, damned if you don’t.
But he's not an actual goalkeeper. He is there for his size and kicking ability. He is too big to get down quickly for spot kicks. The safe decision was to stick with Rafferty but he has only been a goalkeeper for 6 months. I think Hughes who has trained as an actual goalkeeper for years would have been a much better choice. No guarantee he would have saved any but he would have given us a better chance.
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Lot of hype about Armagh heading into weekend, tyrone’s Niall Morgan suggesting they could win all Ireland!! Once again , they fell when expectation rose. To there credit they never give up but Galway really should have seen that game out comfortably.
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Lot of hype about Armagh heading into weekend, tyrone’s Niall Morgan suggesting they could win all Ireland!! Once again , they fell when expectation rose. To there credit they never give up but Galway really should have seen that game out comfortably.
To be honest we definitely could have- just like 6 of the 8 teams in the quarters. On balance Galway probably deserved to win it overall. Best of luck to them in the semi final. We’re back at the top table and big days out. More to come from this team.
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We'll agree to disagree, in the world of finance the GAA will listen to the likes of Joyce and the public opinion on using penalties, with pressure being applied from sponsors and media. We seen the reality of the plan yesterday and I expect some head scratching in Croke Park this morning. There would have to be compromise and the Dublin Meath saga could never happen again but after such a high profile game yesterday the GAA will use it to make a slight change again imo.
The world of finance? The GAA are turning down lucrative replays here. For once, we can't throw the finance thing at them
😂.. no we can't to be fair but is it sustainable? My opinion like many is more about fairness on the players but when we think about it, the GAA are potentially throwing away over €1million, imagine a semi final goes the same way as yesterday. Media and sponsors would of loved another Armagh v Galway game in a packed stadium. I think decide on the day in the first match is crazy and when common sense takes over the authorities will all agree.
But we can't have it both ways, especially in these times. Are we expecting players and supporters of one of teh teams go out to Croke Park 3 weekends in a row now? We've known about this all year. A big game would always have these discussions, but we'll get used to it and move on
Happily. Cut ticket prices for a replay though.
Well of course you'd say that this morning. But it's not just price (and they used to cut replay prices alright). Just next weekend was meant to be off for players, and now we have some saying 3 weeks in a row is no issue, with the final 2 weeks after. Potentially 4 games in 5 weeks? Nah way...
Ah ffs catch yourself on, players would play a game every night of the week to get to an AI semi-final.
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If we had won that match it would have been a great steal but it is still hard to take given the nature of the defeat. That said I don't understand all the hand wringing over penalty kicks. The rules are the same for both sides and we had 100+ minutes to win the match and didn't do so. As well as Rafferty played, I thought that Armagh should have brought on an actual shot stopper for the penalty kicks. That was a huge mistake by management.
Kelly will get suspended for the gouging incident but he is a young lad who got carried away with the emotion and will have regrets this morning but some of the reaction is way ott.
As a fellow Ulster man I would like to see Derry get to an AI final but nor would I be too disappointed to see Galway there either as they have great supporters and have a long tradition of producing great footballers none more so than Padraig Joyce who was very gracious in victory afterwards.
Good post Yellowcard.
Funnily enough, lads on tv were talking about changing Rafferty for a 'normal keeper' in the last minute of extra-time.
Rafferty very close to a couple of the penalties plus he’s a bigger presence in the net than Blaine. Probably one of those where you’re damned if you do, damned if you don’t.
But he's not an actual goalkeeper. He is there for his size and kicking ability. He is too big to get down quickly for spot kicks. The safe decision was to stick with Rafferty but he has only been a goalkeeper for 6 months. I think Hughes who has trained as an actual goalkeeper for years would have been a much better choice. No guarantee he would have saved any but he would have given us a better chance.
As a player you would know that if you hit the target you have a great chance of scoring if the person in nets isnt a conventional goalkeeper.
This increases your chances of scoring rather than having to place it in a particular spot which the second Armagh player that missed had to do
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ra_LEiPRBh8
#27 for Armagh, acted the maggot big time.
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The Galway sub/ panel member that swung after the gouging incident at Tiernan Kelly should see bit of a suspension also. Would be a handy way for all concerned to see these boys suspended, the Nugent & Seán Kelly reds rescinded and moving on allowing Galway a full hand v Derry. Penalising the extended panel and non playing individuals involved is fair in my opinion.
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The Galway sub/ panel member that swung after the gouging incident at Tiernan Kelly should see bit of a suspension also. Would be a handy way for all concerned to see these boys suspended, the Nugent & Seán Kelly reds rescinded and moving on allowing Galway a full hand v Derry. Penalising the extended panel and non playing individuals involved is fair in my opinion.
The sub who swung for Kelly deserves a medal!
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There is absolutely nothing wrong with penalties. Anyone who expects players and fans to go to croke park 3 weekends in a row in the middle of a cost of living crisis forgets all the whinging there used to be about how expensive it was for families beforehand.
I feel like some people just do not want anything that comes from soccer in the GAA. Its anglophobia and belongs in the past.
Penalties:
Losers hate them obviously.
Winners are happy but will say it's a terrible way to lose blah, blah, blah.
Neutrals think it's the best way to finish on the day.
Most neutrals seem to be saying it’s no way to lose any match.
Yeah, but it's the way these games finish.
You'd think, from Armagh's point of view, that the referee just decided on penalties himself at the end of extra-time.
Sour grapes - Armagh lost. Raw now but that's life. It happened in the Munster game earlier this year and no one, outside Clare and Limerick, gave a fiddlers. It happens in club games. Get over it ffs.
The main issue is this;
In the cold light of day, Galway were the better team. They almost threw it away. Galway were 6 or 7 pts up in the 70+ mins. Armagh got lucky with the goals. Papered over that they were badly outplayed.
That's the reality.
The most vocal opponents to the pens post game was actually Pádraic Joyce and Sean Cavanagh. This goes beyond 'sour grapes' which I don't think the discussion is about. I think most football people accept it's a problem that needs looking at. I'd much rather listen to legends of the game to be honest who understand the effort required to compete at inter county level.
It is sour grapes.
As time passes, this will all move on. Of course Joyce would say that - every winning manager says that. It's the norm.
I don't like penalties either but it's the way it is.
I never hear a team in the run up to a match complaining about penalties being on the cards.
Galway probably practisied penalty kicks during the week. Did Armagh I wonder?
Armagh were well beat, got lucky with a few high balls but Galway were the better team.
Good luck to Galway, they're a serious team and set up who'll get very close to the All Ireland title which will show how good this Armagh team and set up are.
I've huge respect for Joyce for what he has achieved in the game and how he goes about setting his teams up, I'd tend to listen to what he says as he is a football man first and foremost and cares about the game.
As for a team being 'well beat' after drawing 90 minutes of football....are you ok?
I think Armagh's strength was the high ball, they might regret not using it enough but hard to criticise either team after such an epic that neither team lost in 90 minutes of normal play.
Take the orange glasses off.
Watch the game again. Armagh got lucky with the goals - it's a 1 in a 100 chance that, especially in gaelic football, that a team scores a couple of goals at the death. They were lucky. Bad defending by Galway or whatever but a finish like that it seldom happens.
Have a look on her near the end of the game. Armagh people saying Mc Geeney must go, same old Armagh etc. etc.
Galway were, by far the better team in the 2nd half. They controlled it and nearly threw it away.
Btw, I think Mc Geeney and his management has done an excellent job. A great Div. 1 campaign and a decent championship run. Lads will be willing to get at it again. Get a good S&C plan going again and they'll be ready for action next January.
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If we had won that match it would have been a great steal but it is still hard to take given the nature of the defeat. That said I don't understand all the hand wringing over penalty kicks. The rules are the same for both sides and we had 100+ minutes to win the match and didn't do so. As well as Rafferty played, I thought that Armagh should have brought on an actual shot stopper for the penalty kicks. That was a huge mistake by management.
Kelly will get suspended for the gouging incident but he is a young lad who got carried away with the emotion and will have regrets this morning but some of the reaction is way ott.
As a fellow Ulster man I would like to see Derry get to an AI final but nor would I be too disappointed to see Galway there either as they have great supporters and have a long tradition of producing great footballers none more so than Padraig Joyce who was very gracious in victory afterwards.
Good post Yellowcard.
Funnily enough, lads on tv were talking about changing Rafferty for a 'normal keeper' in the last minute of extra-time.
Rafferty very close to a couple of the penalties plus he’s a bigger presence in the net than Blaine. Probably one of those where you’re damned if you do, damned if you don’t.
But he's not an actual goalkeeper. He is there for his size and kicking ability. He is too big to get down quickly for spot kicks. The safe decision was to stick with Rafferty but he has only been a goalkeeper for 6 months. I think Hughes who has trained as an actual goalkeeper for years would have been a much better choice. No guarantee he would have saved any but he would have given us a better chance.
As a player you would know that if you hit the target you have a great chance of scoring if the person in nets isnt a conventional goalkeeper.
This increases your chances of scoring rather than having to place it in a particular spot which the second Armagh player that missed had to do
Exactly right. If you're a Galway player you just have to focus purely on hitting the target and it puts less pressure on the kicker to force it into a corner.
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Highly disappointing to see us involved in another fracas. It has to stop. I can't fathom that our management would send the players out to do that - but it's something that has to be forcibly drilled in from here on. No more of it. If the GAA don't have anything in place to stop 2 teams who are pumped up after a hard fought finish running down the tunnel together then we have to get our own house in order and instruct our players to wait on the pitch.
It wasn't the GAA fault
Its hard to believe that its not drilled into Armagh to start rows considering the amount of incidents Armagh are involved in
Its rumoured they coach MMA
Ironically one of the only things barred in MMA is eye gouging!
As much as I dislike them being an opposing county the above is a complete load of shite.
How do you drill it into a team to start rows?
Its a psychological thing - the way they are coached. For example do you see other counties get into this type scenario this often. Take the Dubs or Kerry they have players who are targeted continually but they must drum it into there team not to get involved because they rarely have scenarios even close to this.
Armagh had a good season but they have a reputation which has now defined them. We should be talking about how Rian O'Neill is an awesome footballer but all we are talking about is Armaghs usual dirty tricks!
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Morgan got nothing at the time for hitting Walsh on the blindside.
Didn’t see that. Walsh could have had a black when he took Morgan out off the ball after Morgan was on a yellow.
The GAA seriously need to look At Melees. They are often “handbags” but seriously bad PR. The current sanctions aren’t working and actually penalise normal human behaviour. If u see a friend in a headlock , you’re going to want to protect him. It 10 of your opponents rush into melee you’re not going to wait on the sidelines to see what happens.
Kelly and Nugent appeared to be peacemakers yet they’re red carded. Previous sanctions have been rescinded as presumably legally unsound.
A few things to consider :
1.Subs outside the wire . Only minimal specific personnel inside the wire.
2.Those who pull people out are not treated the same as those who aggressively interject.
3.Heavy financial sanctions to teams
Finish on the day must stay. Replays mess up the calendar, are a further strain in amateur players, and financial strain on the punters . Perhaps 10 seconds to score from the edge of the D , might be a better option than penalties.
Mcgeeney is right about trial by media/social media. RTE’s view has dictated rule changes in the past , and they have their own agenda. Eg They want replays as it’s clearly good for RTE viewing figures and it’s another payday for the pundits . Seán cavanagh’s crocodile tears about his neighbours and Tyrone’s biggest rivals losing out on penalties was laughable . The irony of the likes of Whelan and Cavanagh wringing their hands in disgust at foul play is even more hilarious .
Great game. Deal with melees going forward but keep the “win on the day”.
Great championship so far and it will be finished in July so that 95% of players can enjoy club action for the rest of the year . Well done GAA
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Will 5% not enjoy Club action?
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So there you are now. Some thoughts.
It was fantastic entertainment.
Rian O'Neill is a serious player. What a huge performance. Great score at the end but he was everywhere. But he is all Armagh have. A lot of the rest of them are limited players.
The sending off was a funny one. Initally I thought it very harsh, felt a yellow was enough but looking at it again last night I can see why Coldrick gave it.
Galway are a good team. A lot of Armagh ppl felt that it was only a matter of turning up. Had heard a lot of stories of Armagh fans getting carried away. Galway didn't get caught in the hype and after they settled they went about their business with great efficiency. They did shite the togs. They need to learn how to lose games out.
The row was the row and yer man made a bollocks of himself. Everyone will get off no matter what suspensions the GAA throw at them. Coldrick made a balls of it. Contributing to a melee is the referees get out of jail card. But this is a problem of the GAAs making. They have let Armagh off all year and they will continue to behave this way. Dublin and Kerry also got let off similarly.
If the GAA are serious about dealing with the issue they need to address the mess that is the rulebook. A referees report must be sacrosanct. No reds overturned ever. No matter what. If the ref gets it wrong, he gets it wrong. Tough. Use only video to retrospectively ban for serious foul play missed by the referee. If he deals with it, then that's the matter closed. No appeals on technicalities because the report wasn't submitted in 4 different versions of Irish or this nonsense.
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Highly disappointing to see us involved in another fracas. It has to stop. I can't fathom that our management would send the players out to do that - but it's something that has to be forcibly drilled in from here on. No more of it. If the GAA don't have anything in place to stop 2 teams who are pumped up after a hard fought finish running down the tunnel together then we have to get our own house in order and instruct our players to wait on the pitch.
It wasn't the GAA fault
Its hard to believe that its not drilled into Armagh to start rows considering the amount of incidents Armagh are involved in
Its rumoured they coach MMA
Ironically one of the only things barred in MMA is eye gouging!
I didn't say it was the fault of the GAA but (and here come the brickbats from the self righteous ones among us here) it's fairly easy for the authorities to step in and cut any of this shite out in future by simply managing how the teams run off at half time. They manage everything else down to the nth degree so why not this? The guys on the Sunday game panels yesterday were saying the same.
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Morgan got nothing at the time for hitting Walsh on the blindside.
Didn’t see that. Walsh could have had a black when he took Morgan out off the ball after Morgan was on a yellow.
The GAA seriously need to look At Melees. They are often “handbags” but seriously bad PR. The current sanctions aren’t working and actually penalise normal human behaviour. If u see a friend in a headlock , you’re going to want to protect him. It 10 of your opponents rush into melee you’re not going to wait on the sidelines to see what happens.
Kelly and Nugent appeared to be peacemakers yet they’re red carded. Previous sanctions have been rescinded as presumably legally unsound.
A few things to consider :
1.Subs outside the wire . Only minimal specific personnel inside the wire.
2.Those who pull people out are not treated the same as those who aggressively interject.
3.Heavy financial sanctions to teams
Finish on the day must stay. Replays mess up the calendar, are a further strain in amateur players, and financial strain on the punters . Perhaps 10 seconds to score from the edge of the D , might be a better option than penalties.
Mcgeeney is right about trial by media/social media. RTE’s view has dictated rule changes in the past , and they have their own agenda. Eg They want replays as it’s clearly good for RTE viewing figures and it’s another payday for the pundits . Seán cavanagh’s crocodile tears about his neighbours and Tyrone’s biggest rivals losing out on penalties was laughable . The irony of the likes of Whelan and Cavanagh wringing their hands in disgust at foul play is even more hilarious .
Great game. Deal with melees going forward but keep the “win on the day”.
Great championship so far and it will be finished in July so that 95% of players can enjoy club action for the rest of the year . Well done GAA
I agree with a lot of what you say except that it hasn't been a great championship. Armagh have probably saved it, there were very few decent other matches that I can think of.
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Highly disappointing to see us involved in another fracas. It has to stop. I can't fathom that our management would send the players out to do that - but it's something that has to be forcibly drilled in from here on. No more of it. If the GAA don't have anything in place to stop 2 teams who are pumped up after a hard fought finish running down the tunnel together then we have to get our own house in order and instruct our players to wait on the pitch.
It wasn't the GAA fault
Its hard to believe that its not drilled into Armagh to start rows considering the amount of incidents Armagh are involved in
Its rumoured they coach MMA
Ironically one of the only things barred in MMA is eye gouging!
As much as I dislike them being an opposing county the above is a complete load of shite.
How do you drill it into a team to start rows?
Its a psychological thing - the way they are coached. For example do you see other counties get into this type scenario this often. Take the Dubs or Kerry they have players who are targeted continually but they must drum it into there team not to get involved because they rarely have scenarios even close to this.
Armagh had a good season but they have a reputation which has now defined them. We should be talking about how Rian O'Neill is an awesome footballer but all we are talking about is Armaghs usual dirty tricks!
Takes 2 to tango. Dublin and Kerry were at something very similar a few months ago so you must have a short memory.
Best player in Ireland imo. Clifford and Con maybe better forwards but Rian could play anywhere on the pitch and be top class at it.
Also there aren’t too many players in the country who’d have had the balls to take that shot on and nail it like that after 70 minutes.
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So there you are now. Some thoughts.
It was fantastic entertainment.
Rian O'Neill is a serious player. What a huge performance. Great score at the end but he was everywhere. But he is all Armagh have. A lot of the rest of them are limited players.
The sending off was a funny one. Initally I thought it very harsh, felt a yellow was enough but looking at it again last night I can see why Coldrick gave it.
Galway are a good team. A lot of Armagh ppl felt that it was only a matter of turning up. Had heard a lot of stories of Armagh fans getting carried away. Galway didn't get caught in the hype and after they settled they went about their business with great efficiency. They did shite the togs. They need to learn how to lose games out.
The row was the row and yer man made a bollocks of himself. Everyone will get off no matter what suspensions the GAA throw at them. Coldrick made a balls of it. Contributing to a melee is the referees get out of jail card. But this is a problem of the GAAs making. They have let Armagh off all year and they will continue to behave this way. Dublin and Kerry also got let off similarly.
If the GAA are serious about dealing with the issue they need to address the mess that is the rulebook. A referees report must be sacrosanct. No reds overturned ever. No matter what. If the ref gets it wrong, he gets it wrong. Tough. Use only video to retrospectively ban for serious foul play missed by the referee. If he deals with it, then that's the matter closed. No appeals on technicalities because the report wasn't submitted in 4 different versions of Irish or this nonsense.
Did you actually watch the match? Rian O'Neill is a great player but probably didn't have his best match yesterday and Armagh have plenty of other good players so that is ridiculous to say that he is the only player we have. As for shiteing the togs, catch a grip one team has to lose and it's not like we threw away a big lead the game ebbed and flowed and Galway won on spot kicks. Its fine margins when it gets to that stage.
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There is absolutely nothing wrong with penalties. Anyone who expects players and fans to go to croke park 3 weekends in a row in the middle of a cost of living crisis forgets all the whinging there used to be about how expensive it was for families beforehand.
I feel like some people just do not want anything that comes from soccer in the GAA. Its anglophobia and belongs in the past.
Penalties:
Losers hate them obviously.
Winners are happy but will say it's a terrible way to lose blah, blah, blah.
Neutrals think it's the best way to finish on the day.
Most neutrals seem to be saying it’s no way to lose any match.
Yeah, but it's the way these games finish.
You'd think, from Armagh's point of view, that the referee just decided on penalties himself at the end of extra-time.
Sour grapes - Armagh lost. Raw now but that's life. It happened in the Munster game earlier this year and no one, outside Clare and Limerick, gave a fiddlers. It happens in club games. Get over it ffs.
The main issue is this;
In the cold light of day, Galway were the better team. They almost threw it away. Galway were 6 or 7 pts up in the 70+ mins. Armagh got lucky with the goals. Papered over that they were badly outplayed.
That's the reality.
The most vocal opponents to the pens post game was actually Pádraic Joyce and Sean Cavanagh. This goes beyond 'sour grapes' which I don't think the discussion is about. I think most football people accept it's a problem that needs looking at. I'd much rather listen to legends of the game to be honest who understand the effort required to compete at inter county level.
It is sour grapes.
As time passes, this will all move on. Of course Joyce would say that - every winning manager says that. It's the norm.
I don't like penalties either but it's the way it is.
I never hear a team in the run up to a match complaining about penalties being on the cards.
Galway probably practisied penalty kicks during the week. Did Armagh I wonder?
Armagh were well beat, got lucky with a few high balls but Galway were the better team.
Good luck to Galway, they're a serious team and set up who'll get very close to the All Ireland title which will show how good this Armagh team and set up are.
I've huge respect for Joyce for what he has achieved in the game and how he goes about setting his teams up, I'd tend to listen to what he says as he is a football man first and foremost and cares about the game.
As for a team being 'well beat' after drawing 90 minutes of football....are you ok?
I think Armagh's strength was the high ball, they might regret not using it enough but hard to criticise either team after such an epic that neither team lost in 90 minutes of normal play.
Take the orange glasses off.
Watch the game again. Armagh got lucky with the goals - it's a 1 in a 100 chance that, especially in gaelic football, that a team scores a couple of goals at the death. They were lucky. Bad defending by Galway or whatever but a finish like that it seldom happens.
Have a look on her near the end of the game. Armagh people saying Mc Geeney must go, same old Armagh etc. etc.
Galway were, by far the better team in the 2nd half. They controlled it and nearly threw it away.
Btw, I think Mc Geeney and his management has done an excellent job. A great Div. 1 campaign and a decent championship run. Lads will be willing to get at it again. Get a good S&C plan going again and they'll be ready for action next January.
Armagh started very well and went four up, I thought they controlled the game at that stage but a few handling errors cost them. At that stage of the game a dodgy free was given to Galway with what looked like he went down easily but small margins. Galway from then became defensively very solid and attacked with patience.
Armagh always looked dangerous though and even at 6 down when you have the kicking ability of Rafferty and a forward line as good as Armagh's always have a chance. The long balls in caused chaos and resulted in three goals, you can be lucky once but not three times, they were all great goals.
Armagh were excellent in extra time and I think if they scored the point straight after the third goal, that was three in it with Croke Park rocking, I don't think Galway recover from that. Also for their extra time goal there was a kick out that went straight to a Galway lad with Armagh then all over the place.
Galway probably shaded it overall but Armagh were well in it with the usual small margins - great game of football between two very good teams. There'll be more in both over the next few years.
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Highly disappointing to see us involved in another fracas. It has to stop. I can't fathom that our management would send the players out to do that - but it's something that has to be forcibly drilled in from here on. No more of it. If the GAA don't have anything in place to stop 2 teams who are pumped up after a hard fought finish running down the tunnel together then we have to get our own house in order and instruct our players to wait on the pitch.
It wasn't the GAA fault
Its hard to believe that its not drilled into Armagh to start rows considering the amount of incidents Armagh are involved in
Its rumoured they coach MMA
Ironically one of the only things barred in MMA is eye gouging!
As much as I dislike them being an opposing county the above is a complete load of shite.
How do you drill it into a team to start rows?
Its a psychological thing - the way they are coached. For example do you see other counties get into this type scenario this often. Take the Dubs or Kerry they have players who are targeted continually but they must drum it into there team not to get involved because they rarely have scenarios even close to this.
Armagh had a good season but they have a reputation which has now defined them. We should be talking about how Rian O'Neill is an awesome footballer but all we are talking about is Armaghs usual dirty tricks!
Takes 2 to tango. Dublin and Kerry were at something very similar a few months ago so you must have a short memory. [/b]
Best player in Ireland imo. Clifford and Con maybe better forwards but Rian could play anywhere on the pitch and be top class at it.
Also there aren’t too many players in the country who’d have had the balls to take that shot on and nail it like that after 70 minutes.
Similar? Yes, that it happened on a football pitch. This keeps getting totted out by Armagh folk. The Dublin Kerry incident was the very definition of footballing handbags. Involved only the onfield players, wasn't a punch thrown, an eye gouged and was over in seconds.
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So there you are now. Some thoughts.
It was fantastic entertainment.
Rian O'Neill is a serious player. What a huge performance. Great score at the end but he was everywhere. But he is all Armagh have. A lot of the rest of them are limited players.
The sending off was a funny one. Initally I thought it very harsh, felt a yellow was enough but looking at it again last night I can see why Coldrick gave it.
Galway are a good team. A lot of Armagh ppl felt that it was only a matter of turning up. Had heard a lot of stories of Armagh fans getting carried away. Galway didn't get caught in the hype and after they settled they went about their business with great efficiency. They did shite the togs. They need to learn how to lose games out.
The row was the row and yer man made a bollocks of himself. Everyone will get off no matter what suspensions the GAA throw at them. Coldrick made a balls of it. Contributing to a melee is the referees get out of jail card. But this is a problem of the GAAs making. They have let Armagh off all year and they will continue to behave this way. Dublin and Kerry also got let off similarly.
If the GAA are serious about dealing with the issue they need to address the mess that is the rulebook. A referees report must be sacrosanct. No reds overturned ever. No matter what. If the ref gets it wrong, he gets it wrong. Tough. Use only video to retrospectively ban for serious foul play missed by the referee. If he deals with it, then that's the matter closed. No appeals on technicalities because the report wasn't submitted in 4 different versions of Irish or this nonsense.
So Coldrick made a balls of it but the refs report must be sacrosanct. If you’re winding at least don’t make it so obvious. Sean Kelly doesn’t deserve to miss an all ireland semi final. Thought the ref was woeful all day tbh.
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So there you are now. Some thoughts.
It was fantastic entertainment.
Rian O'Neill is a serious player. What a huge performance. Great score at the end but he was everywhere. But he is all Armagh have. A lot of the rest of them are limited players.
The sending off was a funny one. Initally I thought it very harsh, felt a yellow was enough but looking at it again last night I can see why Coldrick gave it.
Galway are a good team. A lot of Armagh ppl felt that it was only a matter of turning up. Had heard a lot of stories of Armagh fans getting carried away. Galway didn't get caught in the hype and after they settled they went about their business with great efficiency. They did shite the togs. They need to learn how to lose games out.
The row was the row and yer man made a bollocks of himself. Everyone will get off no matter what suspensions the GAA throw at them. Coldrick made a balls of it. Contributing to a melee is the referees get out of jail card. But this is a problem of the GAAs making. They have let Armagh off all year and they will continue to behave this way. Dublin and Kerry also got let off similarly.
If the GAA are serious about dealing with the issue they need to address the mess that is the rulebook. A referees report must be sacrosanct. No reds overturned ever. No matter what. If the ref gets it wrong, he gets it wrong. Tough. Use only video to retrospectively ban for serious foul play missed by the referee. If he deals with it, then that's the matter closed. No appeals on technicalities because the report wasn't submitted in 4 different versions of Irish or this nonsense.
Your analysis doesn't really add up. Rian is a special talent but if you've seen much of Armagh over the past few months you'll know we have a range of scorers in most matches. Yesterday was the same. He didn't exactly kick 1.20 for us.
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Was listening to RTE radio on the way home from a game, so didn't see game till later, but they reported at the time the Coldrick went and spoke to both county sec's explained what he was going to do and they went to the changing rooms to speak to players..
So when they came out the players already knew they were getting sent off.. strange that it was the two captains as if it were an agreement of sorts .. very off considering the amount that was involved
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I don't think Kelly knew. You could tell by the look on his face he was surprised / shocked.
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So there you are now. Some thoughts.
It was fantastic entertainment.
Rian O'Neill is a serious player. What a huge performance. Great score at the end but he was everywhere. But he is all Armagh have. A lot of the rest of them are limited players.
The sending off was a funny one. Initally I thought it very harsh, felt a yellow was enough but looking at it again last night I can see why Coldrick gave it.
Galway are a good team. A lot of Armagh ppl felt that it was only a matter of turning up. Had heard a lot of stories of Armagh fans getting carried away. Galway didn't get caught in the hype and after they settled they went about their business with great efficiency. They did shite the togs. They need to learn how to lose games out.
The row was the row and yer man made a bollocks of himself. Everyone will get off no matter what suspensions the GAA throw at them. Coldrick made a balls of it. Contributing to a melee is the referees get out of jail card. But this is a problem of the GAAs making. They have let Armagh off all year and they will continue to behave this way. Dublin and Kerry also got let off similarly.
If the GAA are serious about dealing with the issue they need to address the mess that is the rulebook. A referees report must be sacrosanct. No reds overturned ever. No matter what. If the ref gets it wrong, he gets it wrong. Tough. Use only video to retrospectively ban for serious foul play missed by the referee. If he deals with it, then that's the matter closed. No appeals on technicalities because the report wasn't submitted in 4 different versions of Irish or this nonsense.
So Coldrick made a balls of it but the refs report must be sacrosanct. If you’re winding at least don’t make it so obvious. Sean Kelly doesn’t deserve to miss an all ireland semi final. Thought the ref was woeful all day tbh.
I'm not winding. If Coldrick thought he had any power he'd have lined 15 from each side. The rulebook is a mess and then by extension so was his handling of the row.
I was kind of on your side but you know what you're proving everyone's point. Armagh can do no wrong. It's their responsibility. There is a clear Armagh directive, one in all in. Can't send us all off boys. They all pumped up out of their minds like McGeeney was when he played.
Armagh are playing with the big boys now and need to realise that every single incident will be poured over. Tyrone live with this daily.
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So there you are now. Some thoughts.
It was fantastic entertainment.
Rian O'Neill is a serious player. What a huge performance. Great score at the end but he was everywhere. But he is all Armagh have. A lot of the rest of them are limited players.
The sending off was a funny one. Initally I thought it very harsh, felt a yellow was enough but looking at it again last night I can see why Coldrick gave it.
Galway are a good team. A lot of Armagh ppl felt that it was only a matter of turning up. Had heard a lot of stories of Armagh fans getting carried away. Galway didn't get caught in the hype and after they settled they went about their business with great efficiency. They did shite the togs. They need to learn how to lose games out.
The row was the row and yer man made a bollocks of himself. Everyone will get off no matter what suspensions the GAA throw at them. Coldrick made a balls of it. Contributing to a melee is the referees get out of jail card. But this is a problem of the GAAs making. They have let Armagh off all year and they will continue to behave this way. Dublin and Kerry also got let off similarly.
If the GAA are serious about dealing with the issue they need to address the mess that is the rulebook. A referees report must be sacrosanct. No reds overturned ever. No matter what. If the ref gets it wrong, he gets it wrong. Tough. Use only video to retrospectively ban for serious foul play missed by the referee. If he deals with it, then that's the matter closed. No appeals on technicalities because the report wasn't submitted in 4 different versions of Irish or this nonsense.
So Coldrick made a balls of it but the refs report must be sacrosanct. If you’re winding at least don’t make it so obvious. Sean Kelly doesn’t deserve to miss an all ireland semi final. Thought the ref was woeful all day tbh.
I'm not winding. If Coldrick thought he had any power he'd have lined 15 from each side. The rulebook is a mess and then by extension so was his handling of the row.
I was kind of on your side but you know what you're proving everyone's point. Armagh can do no wrong. It's their responsibility. There is a clear Armagh directive, one in all in. Can't send us all off boys. They all pumped up out of their minds like McGeeney was when he played.
Armagh are playing with the big boys now and need to realise that every single incident will be poured over. Tyrone live with this daily.
Tyrone haven't lived with it much this year anyway, they were long gone before the championship had even begun in earnest.
Sean Kelly will get off on appeal because looking at the replay he done nothing to warrant a red card. The Galway player that swung a punch at Kelly should get banned and after that it was all argy bargy stuff with very little actual foul play. But the media will make a big deal of it as usual and big bad Armagh will probably get the blame.
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So there you are now. Some thoughts.
It was fantastic entertainment.
Rian O'Neill is a serious player. What a huge performance. Great score at the end but he was everywhere. But he is all Armagh have. A lot of the rest of them are limited players.
The sending off was a funny one. Initally I thought it very harsh, felt a yellow was enough but looking at it again last night I can see why Coldrick gave it.
Galway are a good team. A lot of Armagh ppl felt that it was only a matter of turning up. Had heard a lot of stories of Armagh fans getting carried away. Galway didn't get caught in the hype and after they settled they went about their business with great efficiency. They did shite the togs. They need to learn how to lose games out.
The row was the row and yer man made a bollocks of himself. Everyone will get off no matter what suspensions the GAA throw at them. Coldrick made a balls of it. Contributing to a melee is the referees get out of jail card. But this is a problem of the GAAs making. They have let Armagh off all year and they will continue to behave this way. Dublin and Kerry also got let off similarly.
If the GAA are serious about dealing with the issue they need to address the mess that is the rulebook. A referees report must be sacrosanct. No reds overturned ever. No matter what. If the ref gets it wrong, he gets it wrong. Tough. Use only video to retrospectively ban for serious foul play missed by the referee. If he deals with it, then that's the matter closed. No appeals on technicalities because the report wasn't submitted in 4 different versions of Irish or this nonsense.
So Coldrick made a balls of it but the refs report must be sacrosanct. If you’re winding at least don’t make it so obvious. Sean Kelly doesn’t deserve to miss an all ireland semi final. Thought the ref was woeful all day tbh.
I'm not winding. If Coldrick thought he had any power he'd have lined 15 from each side. The rulebook is a mess and then by extension so was his handling of the row.
I was kind of on your side but you know what you're proving everyone's point. Armagh can do no wrong. It's their responsibility. There is a clear Armagh directive, one in all in. Can't send us all off boys. They all pumped up out of their minds like McGeeney was when he played.
Armagh are playing with the big boys now and need to realise that every single incident will be poured over. Tyrone live with this daily.
McGeeney hit hard but when was he ever sent off or involved in a melee?
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So there you are now. Some thoughts.
It was fantastic entertainment.
Rian O'Neill is a serious player. What a huge performance. Great score at the end but he was everywhere. But he is all Armagh have. A lot of the rest of them are limited players.
The sending off was a funny one. Initally I thought it very harsh, felt a yellow was enough but looking at it again last night I can see why Coldrick gave it.
Galway are a good team. A lot of Armagh ppl felt that it was only a matter of turning up. Had heard a lot of stories of Armagh fans getting carried away. Galway didn't get caught in the hype and after they settled they went about their business with great efficiency. They did shite the togs. They need to learn how to lose games out.
The row was the row and yer man made a bollocks of himself. Everyone will get off no matter what suspensions the GAA throw at them. Coldrick made a balls of it. Contributing to a melee is the referees get out of jail card. But this is a problem of the GAAs making. They have let Armagh off all year and they will continue to behave this way. Dublin and Kerry also got let off similarly.
If the GAA are serious about dealing with the issue they need to address the mess that is the rulebook. A referees report must be sacrosanct. No reds overturned ever. No matter what. If the ref gets it wrong, he gets it wrong. Tough. Use only video to retrospectively ban for serious foul play missed by the referee. If he deals with it, then that's the matter closed. No appeals on technicalities because the report wasn't submitted in 4 different versions of Irish or this nonsense.
So Coldrick made a balls of it but the refs report must be sacrosanct. If you’re winding at least don’t make it so obvious. Sean Kelly doesn’t deserve to miss an all ireland semi final. Thought the ref was woeful all day tbh.
I'm not winding. If Coldrick thought he had any power he'd have lined 15 from each side. The rulebook is a mess and then by extension so was his handling of the row.
I was kind of on your side but you know what you're proving everyone's point. Armagh can do no wrong. It's their responsibility. There is a clear Armagh directive, one in all in. Can't send us all off boys. They all pumped up out of their minds like McGeeney was when he played.
Armagh are playing with the big boys now and need to realise that every single incident will be poured over. Tyrone live with this daily.
Tyrone haven't lived with it much this year anyway, they were long gone before the championship had even begun in earnest.
Sean Kelly will get off on appeal because looking at the replay he done nothing to warrant a red card. The Galway player that swung a punch at Kelly should get banned and after that it was all argy bargy stuff with very little actual foul play. But the media will make a big deal of it as usual and big bad Armagh will probably get the blame.
Jesus Christ. A person could have lost his sight.
If Armagh owned up here ppl would have more sympathy.
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So there you are now. Some thoughts.
It was fantastic entertainment.
Rian O'Neill is a serious player. What a huge performance. Great score at the end but he was everywhere. But he is all Armagh have. A lot of the rest of them are limited players.
The sending off was a funny one. Initally I thought it very harsh, felt a yellow was enough but looking at it again last night I can see why Coldrick gave it.
Galway are a good team. A lot of Armagh ppl felt that it was only a matter of turning up. Had heard a lot of stories of Armagh fans getting carried away. Galway didn't get caught in the hype and after they settled they went about their business with great efficiency. They did shite the togs. They need to learn how to lose games out.
The row was the row and yer man made a bollocks of himself. Everyone will get off no matter what suspensions the GAA throw at them. Coldrick made a balls of it. Contributing to a melee is the referees get out of jail card. But this is a problem of the GAAs making. They have let Armagh off all year and they will continue to behave this way. Dublin and Kerry also got let off similarly.
If the GAA are serious about dealing with the issue they need to address the mess that is the rulebook. A referees report must be sacrosanct. No reds overturned ever. No matter what. If the ref gets it wrong, he gets it wrong. Tough. Use only video to retrospectively ban for serious foul play missed by the referee. If he deals with it, then that's the matter closed. No appeals on technicalities because the report wasn't submitted in 4 different versions of Irish or this nonsense.
So Coldrick made a balls of it but the refs report must be sacrosanct. If you’re winding at least don’t make it so obvious. Sean Kelly doesn’t deserve to miss an all ireland semi final. Thought the ref was woeful all day tbh.
I'm not winding. If Coldrick thought he had any power he'd have lined 15 from each side. The rulebook is a mess and then by extension so was his handling of the row.
I was kind of on your side but you know what you're proving everyone's point. Armagh can do no wrong. It's their responsibility. There is a clear Armagh directive, one in all in. Can't send us all off boys. They all pumped up out of their minds like McGeeney was when he played.
Armagh are playing with the big boys now and need to realise that every single incident will be poured over. Tyrone live with this daily.
Tyrone haven't lived with it much this year anyway, they were long gone before the championship had even begun in earnest.
Sean Kelly will get off on appeal because looking at the replay he done nothing to warrant a red card. The Galway player that swung a punch at Kelly should get banned and after that it was all argy bargy stuff with very little actual foul play. But the media will make a big deal of it as usual and big bad Armagh will probably get the blame.
Jesus Christ. A person could have lost his sight.
If Armagh owned up here ppl would have more sympathy.
I don't think anybody is condoning the gouging but don't start over dramatising it either saying he could have lost his sight. Kelly will get rightly banned together with the Galway lad that swung the punch back at him but I was talking about everything else that went on. However its a bit rich for Tyrone fans to be jumping in looking for players to get lynched.
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Its all in the coaching and team culture built up over a number of years. If anyone thinks that McKLeever and McGeeneys 'style' isnt all over that team then they need their heads read.
Monkey see monkey do.
Its premeditated not to ever actually strike. Becasue thats a sending off offence. So lads, no striking whatever you do.
But make sure you grapple, wrestle, grab, twist and hold onto him like your life depends on it and dont ever back down or let go first. Thats a sign of weakness and we cant have that, because after all, we're all big men and we like to flex how big we are.
Whilst there is alot to admire about Armagh's journey and football theyve played, they still get involved too much, indulge in thuggish shite and foul too easily. Their obsession with chest beating macho bull shit and insistence in turning every game into a dick-measuring contest was always gonna bite them at some stage.
Theyve lost this particular dick-measuring contest and its gonna hurt for a while.
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So there you are now. Some thoughts.
It was fantastic entertainment.
Rian O'Neill is a serious player. What a huge performance. Great score at the end but he was everywhere. But he is all Armagh have. A lot of the rest of them are limited players.
The sending off was a funny one. Initally I thought it very harsh, felt a yellow was enough but looking at it again last night I can see why Coldrick gave it.
Galway are a good team. A lot of Armagh ppl felt that it was only a matter of turning up. Had heard a lot of stories of Armagh fans getting carried away. Galway didn't get caught in the hype and after they settled they went about their business with great efficiency. They did shite the togs. They need to learn how to lose games out.
The row was the row and yer man made a bollocks of himself. Everyone will get off no matter what suspensions the GAA throw at them. Coldrick made a balls of it. Contributing to a melee is the referees get out of jail card. But this is a problem of the GAAs making. They have let Armagh off all year and they will continue to behave this way. Dublin and Kerry also got let off similarly.
If the GAA are serious about dealing with the issue they need to address the mess that is the rulebook. A referees report must be sacrosanct. No reds overturned ever. No matter what. If the ref gets it wrong, he gets it wrong. Tough. Use only video to retrospectively ban for serious foul play missed by the referee. If he deals with it, then that's the matter closed. No appeals on technicalities because the report wasn't submitted in 4 different versions of Irish or this nonsense.
So Coldrick made a balls of it but the refs report must be sacrosanct. If you’re winding at least don’t make it so obvious. Sean Kelly doesn’t deserve to miss an all ireland semi final. Thought the ref was woeful all day tbh.
I'm not winding. If Coldrick thought he had any power he'd have lined 15 from each side. The rulebook is a mess and then by extension so was his handling of the row.
I was kind of on your side but you know what you're proving everyone's point. Armagh can do no wrong. It's their responsibility. There is a clear Armagh directive, one in all in. Can't send us all off boys. They all pumped up out of their minds like McGeeney was when he played.
Armagh are playing with the big boys now and need to realise that every single incident will be poured over. Tyrone live with this daily.
Tyrone haven't lived with it much this year anyway, they were long gone before the championship had even begun in earnest.
Sean Kelly will get off on appeal because looking at the replay he done nothing to warrant a red card. The Galway player that swung a punch at Kelly should get banned and after that it was all argy bargy stuff with very little actual foul play. But the media will make a big deal of it as usual and big bad Armagh will probably get the blame.
Genuinely hope he does get off-very unfair on him. Will Nugent and Greg’s suspension carry to next year? They both deserve to get off too.
Don’t think you’ll find too many people complaining if that lad gets off too.
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Highly disappointing to see us involved in another fracas. It has to stop. I can't fathom that our management would send the players out to do that - but it's something that has to be forcibly drilled in from here on. No more of it. If the GAA don't have anything in place to stop 2 teams who are pumped up after a hard fought finish running down the tunnel together then we have to get our own house in order and instruct our players to wait on the pitch.
It wasn't the GAA fault
Its hard to believe that its not drilled into Armagh to start rows considering the amount of incidents Armagh are involved in
Its rumoured they coach MMA
Ironically one of the only things barred in MMA is eye gouging!
As much as I dislike them being an opposing county the above is a complete load of shite.
How do you drill it into a team to start rows?
Its a psychological thing - the way they are coached. For example do you see other counties get into this type scenario this often. Take the Dubs or Kerry they have players who are targeted continually but they must drum it into there team not to get involved because they rarely have scenarios even close to this.
Armagh had a good season but they have a reputation which has now defined them. We should be talking about how Rian O'Neill is an awesome footballer but all we are talking about is Armaghs usual dirty tricks!
Takes 2 to tango. Dublin and Kerry were at something very similar a few months ago so you must have a short memory.
Best player in Ireland imo. Clifford and Con maybe better forwards but Rian could play anywhere on the pitch and be top class at it.
Also there aren’t too many players in the country who’d have had the balls to take that shot on and nail it like that after 70 minutes.
I think I heard on TSG last night that Dean Rock hasn't missed a free in this years championship?
Would that be right?
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So there you are now. Some thoughts.
It was fantastic entertainment.
Rian O'Neill is a serious player. What a huge performance. Great score at the end but he was everywhere. But he is all Armagh have. A lot of the rest of them are limited players.
The sending off was a funny one. Initally I thought it very harsh, felt a yellow was enough but looking at it again last night I can see why Coldrick gave it.
Galway are a good team. A lot of Armagh ppl felt that it was only a matter of turning up. Had heard a lot of stories of Armagh fans getting carried away. Galway didn't get caught in the hype and after they settled they went about their business with great efficiency. They did shite the togs. They need to learn how to lose games out.
The row was the row and yer man made a bollocks of himself. Everyone will get off no matter what suspensions the GAA throw at them. Coldrick made a balls of it. Contributing to a melee is the referees get out of jail card. But this is a problem of the GAAs making. They have let Armagh off all year and they will continue to behave this way. Dublin and Kerry also got let off similarly.
If the GAA are serious about dealing with the issue they need to address the mess that is the rulebook. A referees report must be sacrosanct. No reds overturned ever. No matter what. If the ref gets it wrong, he gets it wrong. Tough. Use only video to retrospectively ban for serious foul play missed by the referee. If he deals with it, then that's the matter closed. No appeals on technicalities because the report wasn't submitted in 4 different versions of Irish or this nonsense.
So Coldrick made a balls of it but the refs report must be sacrosanct. If you’re winding at least don’t make it so obvious. Sean Kelly doesn’t deserve to miss an all ireland semi final. Thought the ref was woeful all day tbh.
I'm not winding. If Coldrick thought he had any power he'd have lined 15 from each side. The rulebook is a mess and then by extension so was his handling of the row.
I was kind of on your side but you know what you're proving everyone's point. Armagh can do no wrong. It's their responsibility. There is a clear Armagh directive, one in all in. Can't send us all off boys. They all pumped up out of their minds like McGeeney was when he played.
Armagh are playing with the big boys now and need to realise that every single incident will be poured over. Tyrone live with this daily.
Tyrone haven't lived with it much this year anyway, they were long gone before the championship had even begun in earnest.
Sean Kelly will get off on appeal because looking at the replay he done nothing to warrant a red card. The Galway player that swung a punch at Kelly should get banned and after that it was all argy bargy stuff with very little actual foul play. But the media will make a big deal of it as usual and big bad Armagh will probably get the blame.
Jesus Christ. A person could have lost his sight.
If Armagh owned up here ppl would have more sympathy.
Don’t be such a drama queen. Goes without saying no one is defending the gouging. Other than that? Just pushing and shoving even Sean Cavanagh said nothing wrong with it.
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Its all in the coaching and team culture built up over a number of years. If anyone thinks that McKLeever and McGeeneys 'style' isnt all over that team then they need their heads read.
Monkey see monkey do.
Its premeditated not to ever actually strike. Becasue thats a sending off offence. So lads, no striking whatever you do.
But make sure you grapple, wrestle, grab, twist and hold onto him like your life depends on it and dont ever back down or let go first. Thats a sign of weakness and we cant have that, because after all, we're all big men and we like to flex how big we are.
Whilst there is alot to admire about Armagh's journey and football theyve played, they still get involved too much, indulge in thuggish shite and foul too easily. Their obsession with chest beating macho bull shit and insistence in turning every game into a dick-measuring contest was always gonna bite them at some stage.
Theyve lost this particular dick-measuring contest and its gonna hurt for a while.
Ridiculous to blame the manager and the defensive coach for an incident that happened on the pitch simply because they were tough players when they played themselves. The players on the pitch take responsibility for their own actions and one Armagh player stepped over the line. The rest of it is simply hand wringing and faux outrage from people with an anti Armagh agenda.
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Its all in the coaching and team culture built up over a number of years. If anyone thinks that McKLeever and McGeeneys 'style' isnt all over that team then they need their heads read.
Monkey see monkey do.
Its premeditated not to ever actually strike. Becasue thats a sending off offence. So lads, no striking whatever you do.
But make sure you grapple, wrestle, grab, twist and hold onto him like your life depends on it and dont ever back down or let go first. Thats a sign of weakness and we cant have that, because after all, we're all big men and we like to flex how big we are.
Whilst there is alot to admire about Armagh's journey and football theyve played, they still get involved too much, indulge in thuggish shite and foul too easily. Their obsession with chest beating macho bull shit and insistence in turning every game into a dick-measuring contest was always gonna bite them at some stage.
Theyve lost this particular dick-measuring contest and its gonna hurt for a while.
Ridiculous to blame the manager and the defensive coach for an incident that happened on the pitch simply because they were tough players when they played themselves. The players on the pitch take responsibility for their own actions and one Armagh player stepped over the line. The rest of it is simply hand wringing and faux outrage from people with an anti Armagh agenda.
It is a bit disappointing that there is a still an "all in" approach after events earlier in the season. The problem with everyone piling in is that things get magnified and there is always a risk of a Tiernan Kelly type incident in the heat of the moment.
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Its all in the coaching and team culture built up over a number of years. If anyone thinks that McKLeever and McGeeneys 'style' isnt all over that team then they need their heads read.
Monkey see monkey do.
Its premeditated not to ever actually strike. Becasue thats a sending off offence. So lads, no striking whatever you do.
But make sure you grapple, wrestle, grab, twist and hold onto him like your life depends on it and dont ever back down or let go first. Thats a sign of weakness and we cant have that, because after all, we're all big men and we like to flex how big we are.
Whilst there is alot to admire about Armagh's journey and football theyve played, they still get involved too much, indulge in thuggish shite and foul too easily. Their obsession with chest beating macho bull shit and insistence in turning every game into a dick-measuring contest was always gonna bite them at some stage.
Theyve lost this particular dick-measuring contest and its gonna hurt for a while.
I’ve read some shite on here (mostly Tyrone and Derry people, ironically) chastising Armagh for yesterdays handbags. I’m not sure Armagh are coached to do anything specifically in terms of dark arts but the only criticism I’ll accept is that the management clearly haven’t learned anything this year in terms of other teams riling them up.
I’ve asked it before but what exactly do Armagh, or any team for that matter, have to gain by starting a melee? There is literally nothing to be achieved from a premeditated melee. Fair criticism of McGeeney/McKeever would be that their players fall for this shite too much: happened with Donegal, it happened with Tyrone and it happened again yesterday. TK deserves a hefty ban and if the powers that be make an example of him, so be it; moronic behaviour from him and something he shouldn’t have involved himself with.
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The Galway sub/ panel member that swung after the gouging incident at Tiernan Kelly should see bit of a suspension also. Would be a handy way for all concerned to see these boys suspended, the Nugent & Seán Kelly reds rescinded and moving on allowing Galway a full hand v Derry. Penalising the extended panel and non playing individuals involved is fair in my opinion.
I hope it landed, but sadly not hard enough evidently.
Armagh sub was way out of order with the gouge, Comer couldn't protect himself from it, cheap shot.
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So there you are now. Some thoughts.
It was fantastic entertainment.
Rian O'Neill is a serious player. What a huge performance. Great score at the end but he was everywhere. But he is all Armagh have. A lot of the rest of them are limited players.
The sending off was a funny one. Initally I thought it very harsh, felt a yellow was enough but looking at it again last night I can see why Coldrick gave it.
Galway are a good team. A lot of Armagh ppl felt that it was only a matter of turning up. Had heard a lot of stories of Armagh fans getting carried away. Galway didn't get caught in the hype and after they settled they went about their business with great efficiency. They did shite the togs. They need to learn how to lose games out.
The row was the row and yer man made a bollocks of himself. Everyone will get off no matter what suspensions the GAA throw at them. Coldrick made a balls of it. Contributing to a melee is the referees get out of jail card. But this is a problem of the GAAs making. They have let Armagh off all year and they will continue to behave this way. Dublin and Kerry also got let off similarly.
If the GAA are serious about dealing with the issue they need to address the mess that is the rulebook. A referees report must be sacrosanct. No reds overturned ever. No matter what. If the ref gets it wrong, he gets it wrong. Tough. Use only video to retrospectively ban for serious foul play missed by the referee. If he deals with it, then that's the matter closed. No appeals on technicalities because the report wasn't submitted in 4 different versions of Irish or this nonsense.
Your analysis doesn't really add up. Rian is a special talent but if you've seen much of Armagh over the past few months you'll know we have a range of scorers in most matches. Yesterday was the same. He didn't exactly kick 1.20 for us.
If you use that analysis then Derry would have nothing without Mcguigan (1-08). Armagh have plenty of good players and unfortunately with injuries the panel was a little bare yesterday when it mattered.
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Its all in the coaching and team culture built up over a number of years. If anyone thinks that McKLeever and McGeeneys 'style' isnt all over that team then they need their heads read.
Monkey see monkey do.
Its premeditated not to ever actually strike. Becasue thats a sending off offence. So lads, no striking whatever you do.
But make sure you grapple, wrestle, grab, twist and hold onto him like your life depends on it and dont ever back down or let go first. Thats a sign of weakness and we cant have that, because after all, we're all big men and we like to flex how big we are.
Whilst there is alot to admire about Armagh's journey and football theyve played, they still get involved too much, indulge in thuggish shite and foul too easily. Their obsession with chest beating macho bull shit and insistence in turning every game into a dick-measuring contest was always gonna bite them at some stage.
Theyve lost this particular dick-measuring contest and its gonna hurt for a while.
Ridiculous to blame the manager and the defensive coach for an incident that happened on the pitch simply because they were tough players when they played themselves. The players on the pitch take responsibility for their own actions and one Armagh player stepped over the line. The rest of it is simply hand wringing and faux outrage from people with an anti Armagh agenda.
I think there is a lot of truth to what he said actually. A team that is consistently getting into scrapes has a culture of it in the camp. Where else does a culture like this come from? Even McGeeneys very poor interview afterwards showed the culture and mentality.
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So there you are now. Some thoughts.
It was fantastic entertainment.
Rian O'Neill is a serious player. What a huge performance. Great score at the end but he was everywhere. But he is all Armagh have. A lot of the rest of them are limited players.
The sending off was a funny one. Initally I thought it very harsh, felt a yellow was enough but looking at it again last night I can see why Coldrick gave it.
Galway are a good team. A lot of Armagh ppl felt that it was only a matter of turning up. Had heard a lot of stories of Armagh fans getting carried away. Galway didn't get caught in the hype and after they settled they went about their business with great efficiency. They did shite the togs. They need to learn how to lose games out.
The row was the row and yer man made a bollocks of himself. Everyone will get off no matter what suspensions the GAA throw at them. Coldrick made a balls of it. Contributing to a melee is the referees get out of jail card. But this is a problem of the GAAs making. They have let Armagh off all year and they will continue to behave this way. Dublin and Kerry also got let off similarly.
If the GAA are serious about dealing with the issue they need to address the mess that is the rulebook. A referees report must be sacrosanct. No reds overturned ever. No matter what. If the ref gets it wrong, he gets it wrong. Tough. Use only video to retrospectively ban for serious foul play missed by the referee. If he deals with it, then that's the matter closed. No appeals on technicalities because the report wasn't submitted in 4 different versions of Irish or this nonsense.
So Coldrick made a balls of it but the refs report must be sacrosanct. If you’re winding at least don’t make it so obvious. Sean Kelly doesn’t deserve to miss an all ireland semi final. Thought the ref was woeful all day tbh.
I'm not winding. If Coldrick thought he had any power he'd have lined 15 from each side. The rulebook is a mess and then by extension so was his handling of the row.
I was kind of on your side but you know what you're proving everyone's point. Armagh can do no wrong. It's their responsibility. There is a clear Armagh directive, one in all in. Can't send us all off boys. They all pumped up out of their minds like McGeeney was when he played.
Armagh are playing with the big boys now and need to realise that every single incident will be poured over. Tyrone live with this daily.
Tyrone haven't lived with it much this year anyway, they were long gone before the championship had even begun in earnest.
Sean Kelly will get off on appeal because looking at the replay he done nothing to warrant a red card. The Galway player that swung a punch at Kelly should get banned and after that it was all argy bargy stuff with very little actual foul play. But the media will make a big deal of it as usual and big bad Armagh will probably get the blame.
Jesus Christ. A person could have lost his sight.
If Armagh owned up here ppl would have more sympathy.
Plenty of Armagh people calling out the gouging, not so many others calling Comer out for starting it. It is unsightly and the GAA needs to do more to stop it.
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Its all in the coaching and team culture built up over a number of years. If anyone thinks that McKLeever and McGeeneys 'style' isnt all over that team then they need their heads read.
Monkey see monkey do.
Its premeditated not to ever actually strike. Becasue thats a sending off offence. So lads, no striking whatever you do.
But make sure you grapple, wrestle, grab, twist and hold onto him like your life depends on it and dont ever back down or let go first. Thats a sign of weakness and we cant have that, because after all, we're all big men and we like to flex how big we are.
Whilst there is alot to admire about Armagh's journey and football theyve played, they still get involved too much, indulge in thuggish shite and foul too easily. Their obsession with chest beating macho bull shit and insistence in turning every game into a dick-measuring contest was always gonna bite them at some stage.
Theyve lost this particular dick-measuring contest and its gonna hurt for a while.
I’ve read some shite on here (mostly Tyrone and Derry people, ironically) chastising Armagh for yesterdays handbags. I’m not sure Armagh are coached to do anything specifically in terms of dark arts but the only criticism I’ll accept is that the management clearly haven’t learned anything this year in terms of other teams riling them up.
I’ve asked it before but what exactly do Armagh, or any team for that matter, have to gain by starting a melee? There is literally nothing to be achieved from a premeditated melee. Fair criticism of McGeeney/McKeever would be that their players fall for this shite too much: happened with Donegal, it happened with Tyrone and it happened again yesterday. TK deserves a hefty ban and if the powers that be make an example of him, so be it; moronic behaviour from him and something he shouldn’t have involved himself with.
What has this got to do with yesterday.
The Armagh #2 ran after Comer and barged into him on the way to the tunnel.
Thats how the melee started
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So there you are now. Some thoughts.
It was fantastic entertainment.
Rian O'Neill is a serious player. What a huge performance. Great score at the end but he was everywhere. But he is all Armagh have. A lot of the rest of them are limited players.
The sending off was a funny one. Initally I thought it very harsh, felt a yellow was enough but looking at it again last night I can see why Coldrick gave it.
Galway are a good team. A lot of Armagh ppl felt that it was only a matter of turning up. Had heard a lot of stories of Armagh fans getting carried away. Galway didn't get caught in the hype and after they settled they went about their business with great efficiency. They did shite the togs. They need to learn how to lose games out.
The row was the row and yer man made a bollocks of himself. Everyone will get off no matter what suspensions the GAA throw at them. Coldrick made a balls of it. Contributing to a melee is the referees get out of jail card. But this is a problem of the GAAs making. They have let Armagh off all year and they will continue to behave this way. Dublin and Kerry also got let off similarly.
If the GAA are serious about dealing with the issue they need to address the mess that is the rulebook. A referees report must be sacrosanct. No reds overturned ever. No matter what. If the ref gets it wrong, he gets it wrong. Tough. Use only video to retrospectively ban for serious foul play missed by the referee. If he deals with it, then that's the matter closed. No appeals on technicalities because the report wasn't submitted in 4 different versions of Irish or this nonsense.
Your analysis doesn't really add up. Rian is a special talent but if you've seen much of Armagh over the past few months you'll know we have a range of scorers in most matches. Yesterday was the same. He didn't exactly kick 1.20 for us.
If you use that analysis then Derry would have nothing without Mcguigan (1-08). Armagh have plenty of good players and unfortunately with injuries the panel was a little bare yesterday when it mattered.
Yeah TK due to long term issue was unfortunately scraping Comers eyes out ;) rather than shooting the lights out in Croker, ditto Oisin O’Neill.
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So there you are now. Some thoughts.
It was fantastic entertainment.
Rian O'Neill is a serious player. What a huge performance. Great score at the end but he was everywhere. But he is all Armagh have. A lot of the rest of them are limited players.
The sending off was a funny one. Initally I thought it very harsh, felt a yellow was enough but looking at it again last night I can see why Coldrick gave it.
Galway are a good team. A lot of Armagh ppl felt that it was only a matter of turning up. Had heard a lot of stories of Armagh fans getting carried away. Galway didn't get caught in the hype and after they settled they went about their business with great efficiency. They did shite the togs. They need to learn how to lose games out.
The row was the row and yer man made a bollocks of himself. Everyone will get off no matter what suspensions the GAA throw at them. Coldrick made a balls of it. Contributing to a melee is the referees get out of jail card. But this is a problem of the GAAs making. They have let Armagh off all year and they will continue to behave this way. Dublin and Kerry also got let off similarly.
If the GAA are serious about dealing with the issue they need to address the mess that is the rulebook. A referees report must be sacrosanct. No reds overturned ever. No matter what. If the ref gets it wrong, he gets it wrong. Tough. Use only video to retrospectively ban for serious foul play missed by the referee. If he deals with it, then that's the matter closed. No appeals on technicalities because the report wasn't submitted in 4 different versions of Irish or this nonsense.
So Coldrick made a balls of it but the refs report must be sacrosanct. If you’re winding at least don’t make it so obvious. Sean Kelly doesn’t deserve to miss an all ireland semi final. Thought the ref was woeful all day tbh.
I'm not winding. If Coldrick thought he had any power he'd have lined 15 from each side. The rulebook is a mess and then by extension so was his handling of the row.
I was kind of on your side but you know what you're proving everyone's point. Armagh can do no wrong. It's their responsibility. There is a clear Armagh directive, one in all in. Can't send us all off boys. They all pumped up out of their minds like McGeeney was when he played.
Armagh are playing with the big boys now and need to realise that every single incident will be poured over. Tyrone live with this daily.
Tyrone haven't lived with it much this year anyway, they were long gone before the championship had even begun in earnest.
Sean Kelly will get off on appeal because looking at the replay he done nothing to warrant a red card. The Galway player that swung a punch at Kelly should get banned and after that it was all argy bargy stuff with very little actual foul play. But the media will make a big deal of it as usual and big bad Armagh will probably get the blame.
Jesus Christ. A person could have lost his sight.
If Armagh owned up here ppl would have more sympathy.
Most of us have. It doesn’t matter that Tak is actually a good guy who does a lot in the community etc. he done what he done and must face the consequences. He needs to be let do that tho and left to learn form his mistake. The witch hunt has to end
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Honestly hard to fathom that some Armagh ones on here are more disappointed that their players are 'hoodwinked' into getting involved in scrapes and fracas. Unreal actually.
Your team has been knee deep in nonsense for the last 10 years on the field and there are a few repeat offenders that stevie wonder could spot before a game even starts yet you think that its the refs, the opposition and everyone else conspiring against you.
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Its all in the coaching and team culture built up over a number of years. If anyone thinks that McKLeever and McGeeneys 'style' isnt all over that team then they need their heads read.
Monkey see monkey do.
Its premeditated not to ever actually strike. Becasue thats a sending off offence. So lads, no striking whatever you do.
But make sure you grapple, wrestle, grab, twist and hold onto him like your life depends on it and dont ever back down or let go first. Thats a sign of weakness and we cant have that, because after all, we're all big men and we like to flex how big we are.
Whilst there is alot to admire about Armagh's journey and football theyve played, they still get involved too much, indulge in thuggish shite and foul too easily. Their obsession with chest beating macho bull shit and insistence in turning every game into a dick-measuring contest was always gonna bite them at some stage.
Theyve lost this particular dick-measuring contest and its gonna hurt for a while.
Ridiculous to blame the manager and the defensive coach for an incident that happened on the pitch simply because they were tough players when they played themselves. The players on the pitch take responsibility for their own actions and one Armagh player stepped over the line. The rest of it is simply hand wringing and faux outrage from people with an anti Armagh agenda.
I think there is a lot of truth to what he said actually. A team that is consistently getting into scrapes has a culture of it in the camp. Where else does a culture like this come from? Even McGeeneys very poor interview afterwards showed the culture and mentality.
What scrapes though, there was hardly a blow struck in any of them. It is of no value for anybody to get involved in these incidents but bar yesterdays gouge its hardly lock up the children stuff either. Its just hand wringing from a few people with an agenda. I said as soon as the melee started that Armagh will probably get blamed and as sure as eggs are eggs it is getting pinned on McGeeney and McKeever. Why stop at thsoe two men though and what about Kieran Donaghy then? Does he get blamed too or does it not suit the narrative because he is a Kerry man?
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So there you are now. Some thoughts.
It was fantastic entertainment.
Rian O'Neill is a serious player. What a huge performance. Great score at the end but he was everywhere. But he is all Armagh have. A lot of the rest of them are limited players.
The sending off was a funny one. Initally I thought it very harsh, felt a yellow was enough but looking at it again last night I can see why Coldrick gave it.
Galway are a good team. A lot of Armagh ppl felt that it was only a matter of turning up. Had heard a lot of stories of Armagh fans getting carried away. Galway didn't get caught in the hype and after they settled they went about their business with great efficiency. They did shite the togs. They need to learn how to lose games out.
The row was the row and yer man made a bollocks of himself. Everyone will get off no matter what suspensions the GAA throw at them. Coldrick made a balls of it. Contributing to a melee is the referees get out of jail card. But this is a problem of the GAAs making. They have let Armagh off all year and they will continue to behave this way. Dublin and Kerry also got let off similarly.
If the GAA are serious about dealing with the issue they need to address the mess that is the rulebook. A referees report must be sacrosanct. No reds overturned ever. No matter what. If the ref gets it wrong, he gets it wrong. Tough. Use only video to retrospectively ban for serious foul play missed by the referee. If he deals with it, then that's the matter closed. No appeals on technicalities because the report wasn't submitted in 4 different versions of Irish or this nonsense.
So Coldrick made a balls of it but the refs report must be sacrosanct. If you’re winding at least don’t make it so obvious. Sean Kelly doesn’t deserve to miss an all ireland semi final. Thought the ref was woeful all day tbh.
I'm not winding. If Coldrick thought he had any power he'd have lined 15 from each side. The rulebook is a mess and then by extension so was his handling of the row.
I was kind of on your side but you know what you're proving everyone's point. Armagh can do no wrong. It's their responsibility. There is a clear Armagh directive, one in all in. Can't send us all off boys. They all pumped up out of their minds like McGeeney was when he played.
Armagh are playing with the big boys now and need to realise that every single incident will be poured over. Tyrone live with this daily.
Tyrone haven't lived with it much this year anyway, they were long gone before the championship had even begun in earnest.
Sean Kelly will get off on appeal because looking at the replay he done nothing to warrant a red card. The Galway player that swung a punch at Kelly should get banned and after that it was all argy bargy stuff with very little actual foul play. But the media will make a big deal of it as usual and big bad Armagh will probably get the blame.
Genuinely hope he does get off-very unfair on him. Will Nugent and Greg’s suspension carry to next year? They both deserve to get off too.
Don’t think you’ll find too many people complaining if that lad gets off too.
Why Mc Cabe?
His was a deserved red.
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Theyve been at it before Donaghy arrived on the ticket.
Im not referring to the gouging because thats a separate thing thats unexplainable.
Open your eyes man. James Morgan and Greg McCabe are card magnets and dont help themselves or the team with their nonsense.
There are a few others who are a shoe-in for cards every game. Armagh are a betting man's dream when it comes to cards.
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Its all in the coaching and team culture built up over a number of years. If anyone thinks that McKLeever and McGeeneys 'style' isnt all over that team then they need their heads read.
Monkey see monkey do.
Its premeditated not to ever actually strike. Becasue thats a sending off offence. So lads, no striking whatever you do.
But make sure you grapple, wrestle, grab, twist and hold onto him like your life depends on it and dont ever back down or let go first. Thats a sign of weakness and we cant have that, because after all, we're all big men and we like to flex how big we are.
Whilst there is alot to admire about Armagh's journey and football theyve played, they still get involved too much, indulge in thuggish shite and foul too easily. Their obsession with chest beating macho bull shit and insistence in turning every game into a dick-measuring contest was always gonna bite them at some stage.
Theyve lost this particular dick-measuring contest and its gonna hurt for a while.
Ridiculous to blame the manager and the defensive coach for an incident that happened on the pitch simply because they were tough players when they played themselves. The players on the pitch take responsibility for their own actions and one Armagh player stepped over the line. The rest of it is simply hand wringing and faux outrage from people with an anti Armagh agenda.
I think there is a lot of truth to what he said actually. A team that is consistently getting into scrapes has a culture of it in the camp. Where else does a culture like this come from? Even McGeeneys very poor interview afterwards showed the culture and mentality.
There seems to be something alright.
I mean that's 3 serious incidents like this in a short space of time - same type.
Obviously they are either coached in it or not learning from the previous incidents.
The key question is, which is it?
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So there you are now. Some thoughts.
It was fantastic entertainment.
Rian O'Neill is a serious player. What a huge performance. Great score at the end but he was everywhere. But he is all Armagh have. A lot of the rest of them are limited players.
The sending off was a funny one. Initally I thought it very harsh, felt a yellow was enough but looking at it again last night I can see why Coldrick gave it.
Galway are a good team. A lot of Armagh ppl felt that it was only a matter of turning up. Had heard a lot of stories of Armagh fans getting carried away. Galway didn't get caught in the hype and after they settled they went about their business with great efficiency. They did shite the togs. They need to learn how to lose games out.
The row was the row and yer man made a bollocks of himself. Everyone will get off no matter what suspensions the GAA throw at them. Coldrick made a balls of it. Contributing to a melee is the referees get out of jail card. But this is a problem of the GAAs making. They have let Armagh off all year and they will continue to behave this way. Dublin and Kerry also got let off similarly.
If the GAA are serious about dealing with the issue they need to address the mess that is the rulebook. A referees report must be sacrosanct. No reds overturned ever. No matter what. If the ref gets it wrong, he gets it wrong. Tough. Use only video to retrospectively ban for serious foul play missed by the referee. If he deals with it, then that's the matter closed. No appeals on technicalities because the report wasn't submitted in 4 different versions of Irish or this nonsense.
So Coldrick made a balls of it but the refs report must be sacrosanct. If you’re winding at least don’t make it so obvious. Sean Kelly doesn’t deserve to miss an all ireland semi final. Thought the ref was woeful all day tbh.
I'm not winding. If Coldrick thought he had any power he'd have lined 15 from each side. The rulebook is a mess and then by extension so was his handling of the row.
I was kind of on your side but you know what you're proving everyone's point. Armagh can do no wrong. It's their responsibility. There is a clear Armagh directive, one in all in. Can't send us all off boys. They all pumped up out of their minds like McGeeney was when he played.
Armagh are playing with the big boys now and need to realise that every single incident will be poured over. Tyrone live with this daily.
Tyrone haven't lived with it much this year anyway, they were long gone before the championship had even begun in earnest.
Sean Kelly will get off on appeal because looking at the replay he done nothing to warrant a red card. The Galway player that swung a punch at Kelly should get banned and after that it was all argy bargy stuff with very little actual foul play. But the media will make a big deal of it as usual and big bad Armagh will probably get the blame.
Jesus Christ. A person could have lost his sight.
If Armagh owned up here ppl would have more sympathy.
Don’t be such a drama queen. Goes without saying no one is defending the gouging. Other than that? Just pushing and shoving even Sean Cavanagh said nothing wrong with it.
Its a pox on our game. Cowardly, sordid phenomenon.
And its about time the GAA got serious about dealing with it.
But as usual most of those involved will get off scott free and it will keep happening.
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So there you are now. Some thoughts.
It was fantastic entertainment.
Rian O'Neill is a serious player. What a huge performance. Great score at the end but he was everywhere. But he is all Armagh have. A lot of the rest of them are limited players.
The sending off was a funny one. Initally I thought it very harsh, felt a yellow was enough but looking at it again last night I can see why Coldrick gave it.
Galway are a good team. A lot of Armagh ppl felt that it was only a matter of turning up. Had heard a lot of stories of Armagh fans getting carried away. Galway didn't get caught in the hype and after they settled they went about their business with great efficiency. They did shite the togs. They need to learn how to lose games out.
The row was the row and yer man made a bollocks of himself. Everyone will get off no matter what suspensions the GAA throw at them. Coldrick made a balls of it. Contributing to a melee is the referees get out of jail card. But this is a problem of the GAAs making. They have let Armagh off all year and they will continue to behave this way. Dublin and Kerry also got let off similarly.
If the GAA are serious about dealing with the issue they need to address the mess that is the rulebook. A referees report must be sacrosanct. No reds overturned ever. No matter what. If the ref gets it wrong, he gets it wrong. Tough. Use only video to retrospectively ban for serious foul play missed by the referee. If he deals with it, then that's the matter closed. No appeals on technicalities because the report wasn't submitted in 4 different versions of Irish or this nonsense.
So Coldrick made a balls of it but the refs report must be sacrosanct. If you’re winding at least don’t make it so obvious. Sean Kelly doesn’t deserve to miss an all ireland semi final. Thought the ref was woeful all day tbh.
I'm not winding. If Coldrick thought he had any power he'd have lined 15 from each side. The rulebook is a mess and then by extension so was his handling of the row.
I was kind of on your side but you know what you're proving everyone's point. Armagh can do no wrong. It's their responsibility. There is a clear Armagh directive, one in all in. Can't send us all off boys. They all pumped up out of their minds like McGeeney was when he played.
Armagh are playing with the big boys now and need to realise that every single incident will be poured over. Tyrone live with this daily.
Tyrone haven't lived with it much this year anyway, they were long gone before the championship had even begun in earnest.
Sean Kelly will get off on appeal because looking at the replay he done nothing to warrant a red card. The Galway player that swung a punch at Kelly should get banned and after that it was all argy bargy stuff with very little actual foul play. But the media will make a big deal of it as usual and big bad Armagh will probably get the blame.
Jesus Christ. A person could have lost his sight.
If Armagh owned up here ppl would have more sympathy.
Plenty of Armagh people calling out the gouging, not so many others calling Comer out for starting it. It is unsightly and the GAA needs to do more to stop it.
What did Comer do?
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but most of them wll never enter a boxing ring or mma cage
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Its all in the coaching and team culture built up over a number of years. If anyone thinks that McKLeever and McGeeneys 'style' isnt all over that team then they need their heads read.
Monkey see monkey do.
Its premeditated not to ever actually strike. Becasue thats a sending off offence. So lads, no striking whatever you do.
But make sure you grapple, wrestle, grab, twist and hold onto him like your life depends on it and dont ever back down or let go first. Thats a sign of weakness and we cant have that, because after all, we're all big men and we like to flex how big we are.
Whilst there is alot to admire about Armagh's journey and football theyve played, they still get involved too much, indulge in thuggish shite and foul too easily. Their obsession with chest beating macho bull shit and insistence in turning every game into a dick-measuring contest was always gonna bite them at some stage.
Theyve lost this particular dick-measuring contest and its gonna hurt for a while.
Ridiculous to blame the manager and the defensive coach for an incident that happened on the pitch simply because they were tough players when they played themselves. The players on the pitch take responsibility for their own actions and one Armagh player stepped over the line. The rest of it is simply hand wringing and faux outrage from people with an anti Armagh agenda.
I think there is a lot of truth to what he said actually. A team that is consistently getting into scrapes has a culture of it in the camp. Where else does a culture like this come from? Even McGeeneys very poor interview afterwards showed the culture and mentality.
There is a culture of rule and law breaking in Armagh. No respect for authority or law and order. Bandit country.
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I originally thought Comer started it but seems James Morgan was shunting him and that provoked him. Not sure how accurate that is?
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The brawl really didn't help Armagh this time, the momentum was all with them, it felt like there was a long delay from normal time to extra time starting to deal with the brawl.
Credit to both teams though
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So there you are now. Some thoughts.
It was fantastic entertainment.
Rian O'Neill is a serious player. What a huge performance. Great score at the end but he was everywhere. But he is all Armagh have. A lot of the rest of them are limited players.
The sending off was a funny one. Initally I thought it very harsh, felt a yellow was enough but looking at it again last night I can see why Coldrick gave it.
Galway are a good team. A lot of Armagh ppl felt that it was only a matter of turning up. Had heard a lot of stories of Armagh fans getting carried away. Galway didn't get caught in the hype and after they settled they went about their business with great efficiency. They did shite the togs. They need to learn how to lose games out.
The row was the row and yer man made a bollocks of himself. Everyone will get off no matter what suspensions the GAA throw at them. Coldrick made a balls of it. Contributing to a melee is the referees get out of jail card. But this is a problem of the GAAs making. They have let Armagh off all year and they will continue to behave this way. Dublin and Kerry also got let off similarly.
If the GAA are serious about dealing with the issue they need to address the mess that is the rulebook. A referees report must be sacrosanct. No reds overturned ever. No matter what. If the ref gets it wrong, he gets it wrong. Tough. Use only video to retrospectively ban for serious foul play missed by the referee. If he deals with it, then that's the matter closed. No appeals on technicalities because the report wasn't submitted in 4 different versions of Irish or this nonsense.
So Coldrick made a balls of it but the refs report must be sacrosanct. If you’re winding at least don’t make it so obvious. Sean Kelly doesn’t deserve to miss an all ireland semi final. Thought the ref was woeful all day tbh.
I'm not winding. If Coldrick thought he had any power he'd have lined 15 from each side. The rulebook is a mess and then by extension so was his handling of the row.
I was kind of on your side but you know what you're proving everyone's point. Armagh can do no wrong. It's their responsibility. There is a clear Armagh directive, one in all in. Can't send us all off boys. They all pumped up out of their minds like McGeeney was when he played.
Armagh are playing with the big boys now and need to realise that every single incident will be poured over. Tyrone live with this daily.
Tyrone haven't lived with it much this year anyway, they were long gone before the championship had even begun in earnest.
Sean Kelly will get off on appeal because looking at the replay he done nothing to warrant a red card. The Galway player that swung a punch at Kelly should get banned and after that it was all argy bargy stuff with very little actual foul play. But the media will make a big deal of it as usual and big bad Armagh will probably get the blame.
Jesus Christ. A person could have lost his sight.
If Armagh owned up here ppl would have more sympathy.
Plenty of Armagh people calling out the gouging, not so many others calling Comer out for starting it. It is unsightly and the GAA needs to do more to stop it.
What did Comer do?
James Morgan started it. He was shoving Comer the whole way to the tunnel.
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So there you are now. Some thoughts.
It was fantastic entertainment.
Rian O'Neill is a serious player. What a huge performance. Great score at the end but he was everywhere. But he is all Armagh have. A lot of the rest of them are limited players.
The sending off was a funny one. Initally I thought it very harsh, felt a yellow was enough but looking at it again last night I can see why Coldrick gave it.
Galway are a good team. A lot of Armagh ppl felt that it was only a matter of turning up. Had heard a lot of stories of Armagh fans getting carried away. Galway didn't get caught in the hype and after they settled they went about their business with great efficiency. They did shite the togs. They need to learn how to lose games out.
The row was the row and yer man made a bollocks of himself. Everyone will get off no matter what suspensions the GAA throw at them. Coldrick made a balls of it. Contributing to a melee is the referees get out of jail card. But this is a problem of the GAAs making. They have let Armagh off all year and they will continue to behave this way. Dublin and Kerry also got let off similarly.
If the GAA are serious about dealing with the issue they need to address the mess that is the rulebook. A referees report must be sacrosanct. No reds overturned ever. No matter what. If the ref gets it wrong, he gets it wrong. Tough. Use only video to retrospectively ban for serious foul play missed by the referee. If he deals with it, then that's the matter closed. No appeals on technicalities because the report wasn't submitted in 4 different versions of Irish or this nonsense.
So Coldrick made a balls of it but the refs report must be sacrosanct. If you’re winding at least don’t make it so obvious. Sean Kelly doesn’t deserve to miss an all ireland semi final. Thought the ref was woeful all day tbh.
I'm not winding. If Coldrick thought he had any power he'd have lined 15 from each side. The rulebook is a mess and then by extension so was his handling of the row.
I was kind of on your side but you know what you're proving everyone's point. Armagh can do no wrong. It's their responsibility. There is a clear Armagh directive, one in all in. Can't send us all off boys. They all pumped up out of their minds like McGeeney was when he played.
Armagh are playing with the big boys now and need to realise that every single incident will be poured over. Tyrone live with this daily.
Tyrone haven't lived with it much this year anyway, they were long gone before the championship had even begun in earnest.
Sean Kelly will get off on appeal because looking at the replay he done nothing to warrant a red card. The Galway player that swung a punch at Kelly should get banned and after that it was all argy bargy stuff with very little actual foul play. But the media will make a big deal of it as usual and big bad Armagh will probably get the blame.
Jesus Christ. A person could have lost his sight.
If Armagh owned up here ppl would have more sympathy.
Plenty of Armagh people calling out the gouging, not so many others calling Comer out for starting it. It is unsightly and the GAA needs to do more to stop it.
How did Comer start it? Did he organise a reck of men to come piling in whilst having a disagreement with Morgan?
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Its all in the coaching and team culture built up over a number of years. If anyone thinks that McKLeever and McGeeneys 'style' isnt all over that team then they need their heads read.
Monkey see monkey do.
Its premeditated not to ever actually strike. Becasue thats a sending off offence. So lads, no striking whatever you do.
But make sure you grapple, wrestle, grab, twist and hold onto him like your life depends on it and dont ever back down or let go first. Thats a sign of weakness and we cant have that, because after all, we're all big men and we like to flex how big we are.
Whilst there is alot to admire about Armagh's journey and football theyve played, they still get involved too much, indulge in thuggish shite and foul too easily. Their obsession with chest beating macho bull shit and insistence in turning every game into a dick-measuring contest was always gonna bite them at some stage.
Theyve lost this particular dick-measuring contest and its gonna hurt for a while.
I’ve read some shite on here (mostly Tyrone and Derry people, ironically) chastising Armagh for yesterdays handbags. I’m not sure Armagh are coached to do anything specifically in terms of dark arts but the only criticism I’ll accept is that the management clearly haven’t learned anything this year in terms of other teams riling them up.
I’ve asked it before but what exactly do Armagh, or any team for that matter, have to gain by starting a melee? There is literally nothing to be achieved from a premeditated melee. Fair criticism of McGeeney/McKeever would be that their players fall for this shite too much: happened with Donegal, it happened with Tyrone and it happened again yesterday. TK deserves a hefty ban and if the powers that be make an example of him, so be it; moronic behaviour from him and something he shouldn’t have involved himself with.
Youve asked so ill answer (even though id thought the answer pretty obvious).
Teams/players will engage in nonsense and start into other players (usually the star men) because if you can get a psychological advantage at all by putting your opponent off his game so much that he might lash out or take his eye off the ball or his own game, then its worthwhile and can help your own team that extra 1%. We all know it goes on and our games, rules and officials facilitate it. Its usually the inferior footballer, the technically weaker player who has to rely on starting shite with his opponent becasue he's simply not good enough to go toe-to-toe with his direct opponent.
Cant believe this needs explaining
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So there you are now. Some thoughts.
It was fantastic entertainment.
Rian O'Neill is a serious player. What a huge performance. Great score at the end but he was everywhere. But he is all Armagh have. A lot of the rest of them are limited players.
The sending off was a funny one. Initally I thought it very harsh, felt a yellow was enough but looking at it again last night I can see why Coldrick gave it.
Galway are a good team. A lot of Armagh ppl felt that it was only a matter of turning up. Had heard a lot of stories of Armagh fans getting carried away. Galway didn't get caught in the hype and after they settled they went about their business with great efficiency. They did shite the togs. They need to learn how to lose games out.
The row was the row and yer man made a bollocks of himself. Everyone will get off no matter what suspensions the GAA throw at them. Coldrick made a balls of it. Contributing to a melee is the referees get out of jail card. But this is a problem of the GAAs making. They have let Armagh off all year and they will continue to behave this way. Dublin and Kerry also got let off similarly.
If the GAA are serious about dealing with the issue they need to address the mess that is the rulebook. A referees report must be sacrosanct. No reds overturned ever. No matter what. If the ref gets it wrong, he gets it wrong. Tough. Use only video to retrospectively ban for serious foul play missed by the referee. If he deals with it, then that's the matter closed. No appeals on technicalities because the report wasn't submitted in 4 different versions of Irish or this nonsense.
So Coldrick made a balls of it but the refs report must be sacrosanct. If you’re winding at least don’t make it so obvious. Sean Kelly doesn’t deserve to miss an all ireland semi final. Thought the ref was woeful all day tbh.
I'm not winding. If Coldrick thought he had any power he'd have lined 15 from each side. The rulebook is a mess and then by extension so was his handling of the row.
I was kind of on your side but you know what you're proving everyone's point. Armagh can do no wrong. It's their responsibility. There is a clear Armagh directive, one in all in. Can't send us all off boys. They all pumped up out of their minds like McGeeney was when he played.
Armagh are playing with the big boys now and need to realise that every single incident will be poured over. Tyrone live with this daily.
Tyrone haven't lived with it much this year anyway, they were long gone before the championship had even begun in earnest.
Sean Kelly will get off on appeal because looking at the replay he done nothing to warrant a red card. The Galway player that swung a punch at Kelly should get banned and after that it was all argy bargy stuff with very little actual foul play. But the media will make a big deal of it as usual and big bad Armagh will probably get the blame.
Genuinely hope he does get off-very unfair on him. Will Nugent and Greg’s suspension carry to next year? They both deserve to get off too.
Don’t think you’ll find too many people complaining if that lad gets off too.
Why Mc Cabe?
His was a deserved red.
A yellow at best imo. Split second off being a perfect tackle- if you’re getting red carded for that then may as well make it non contact
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Its all in the coaching and team culture built up over a number of years. If anyone thinks that McKLeever and McGeeneys 'style' isnt all over that team then they need their heads read.
Monkey see monkey do.
Its premeditated not to ever actually strike. Becasue thats a sending off offence. So lads, no striking whatever you do.
But make sure you grapple, wrestle, grab, twist and hold onto him like your life depends on it and dont ever back down or let go first. Thats a sign of weakness and we cant have that, because after all, we're all big men and we like to flex how big we are.
Whilst there is alot to admire about Armagh's journey and football theyve played, they still get involved too much, indulge in thuggish shite and foul too easily. Their obsession with chest beating macho bull shit and insistence in turning every game into a dick-measuring contest was always gonna bite them at some stage.
Theyve lost this particular dick-measuring contest and its gonna hurt for a while.
Ridiculous to blame the manager and the defensive coach for an incident that happened on the pitch simply because they were tough players when they played themselves. The players on the pitch take responsibility for their own actions and one Armagh player stepped over the line. The rest of it is simply hand wringing and faux outrage from people with an anti Armagh agenda.
I think there is a lot of truth to what he said actually. A team that is consistently getting into scrapes has a culture of it in the camp. Where else does a culture like this come from? Even McGeeneys very poor interview afterwards showed the culture and mentality.
There is a culture of rule and law breaking in Armagh. No respect for authority or law and order. Bandit country.
Proudly. And only place in Ireland the brits couldn’t walk through if you want to go down that road…
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There is actually a case to be made for throwing Armagh out of next years Championship. Derrytresk got 5 years for similar behaviour. Albeit they are a Tyrone team and the GAA use the Tyrone rule book when it comes to disciplinary proceedings involving the county.
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We'll agree to disagree, in the world of finance the GAA will listen to the likes of Joyce and the public opinion on using penalties, with pressure being applied from sponsors and media. We seen the reality of the plan yesterday and I expect some head scratching in Croke Park this morning. There would have to be compromise and the Dublin Meath saga could never happen again but after such a high profile game yesterday the GAA will use it to make a slight change again imo.
The world of finance? The GAA are turning down lucrative replays here. For once, we can't throw the finance thing at them
😂.. no we can't to be fair but is it sustainable? My opinion like many is more about fairness on the players but when we think about it, the GAA are potentially throwing away over €1million, imagine a semi final goes the same way as yesterday. Media and sponsors would of loved another Armagh v Galway game in a packed stadium. I think decide on the day in the first match is crazy and when common sense takes over the authorities will all agree.
But we can't have it both ways, especially in these times. Are we expecting players and supporters of one of teh teams go out to Croke Park 3 weekends in a row now? We've known about this all year. A big game would always have these discussions, but we'll get used to it and move on
Happily. Cut ticket prices for a replay though.
Well of course you'd say that this morning. But it's not just price (and they used to cut replay prices alright). Just next weekend was meant to be off for players, and now we have some saying 3 weeks in a row is no issue, with the final 2 weeks after. Potentially 4 games in 5 weeks? Nah way...
Ah ffs catch yourself on, players would play a game every night of the week to get to an AI semi-final.
Of course they would. That's literally my point, but it wouldn't be fair on them. But it's not up to the GAA to flog them like that, they have to think on that stuff now. There's a reason we don't leave these decisions to the players. The right call was made with penalties seeing as we have a split season.
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I think I'd like to see separate threads for those that want to analyse the match and those that want to analyse the row.
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The Armagh #2 ran after Comer and barged into him on the way to the tunnel.
Thats how the melee started
Two people jostling is not a melee.
Who next joined these two people? That is where the problem lies.
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Its all in the coaching and team culture built up over a number of years. If anyone thinks that McKLeever and McGeeneys 'style' isnt all over that team then they need their heads read.
Monkey see monkey do.
Its premeditated not to ever actually strike. Becasue thats a sending off offence. So lads, no striking whatever you do.
But make sure you grapple, wrestle, grab, twist and hold onto him like your life depends on it and dont ever back down or let go first. Thats a sign of weakness and we cant have that, because after all, we're all big men and we like to flex how big we are.
Whilst there is alot to admire about Armagh's journey and football theyve played, they still get involved too much, indulge in thuggish shite and foul too easily. Their obsession with chest beating macho bull shit and insistence in turning every game into a dick-measuring contest was always gonna bite them at some stage.
Theyve lost this particular dick-measuring contest and its gonna hurt for a while.
Ridiculous to blame the manager and the defensive coach for an incident that happened on the pitch simply because they were tough players when they played themselves. The players on the pitch take responsibility for their own actions and one Armagh player stepped over the line. The rest of it is simply hand wringing and faux outrage from people with an anti Armagh agenda.
I think there is a lot of truth to what he said actually. A team that is consistently getting into scrapes has a culture of it in the camp. Where else does a culture like this come from? Even McGeeneys very poor interview afterwards showed the culture and mentality.
There is a culture of rule and law breaking in Armagh. No respect for authority or law and order. Bandit country.
Bit harsh that.
There's great people in Armagh.
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We'll agree to disagree, in the world of finance the GAA will listen to the likes of Joyce and the public opinion on using penalties, with pressure being applied from sponsors and media. We seen the reality of the plan yesterday and I expect some head scratching in Croke Park this morning. There would have to be compromise and the Dublin Meath saga could never happen again but after such a high profile game yesterday the GAA will use it to make a slight change again imo.
The world of finance? The GAA are turning down lucrative replays here. For once, we can't throw the finance thing at them
😂.. no we can't to be fair but is it sustainable? My opinion like many is more about fairness on the players but when we think about it, the GAA are potentially throwing away over €1million, imagine a semi final goes the same way as yesterday. Media and sponsors would of loved another Armagh v Galway game in a packed stadium. I think decide on the day in the first match is crazy and when common sense takes over the authorities will all agree.
But we can't have it both ways, especially in these times. Are we expecting players and supporters of one of teh teams go out to Croke Park 3 weekends in a row now? We've known about this all year. A big game would always have these discussions, but we'll get used to it and move on
Happily. Cut ticket prices for a replay though.
Well of course you'd say that this morning. But it's not just price (and they used to cut replay prices alright). Just next weekend was meant to be off for players, and now we have some saying 3 weeks in a row is no issue, with the final 2 weeks after. Potentially 4 games in 5 weeks? Nah way...
Ah ffs catch yourself on, players would play a game every night of the week to get to an AI semi-final.
Of course they would. That's literally my point, but it wouldn't be fair on them. But it's not up to the GAA to flog them like that, they have to think on that stuff now. There's a reason we don't leave these decisions to the players. The right call was made with penalties seeing as we have a split season.
Ah in fairness at that level those lads could play 2 days in a row. Molloy from Galway played twice in one day for NUIG and Corofin I’m nearly sure once as well. A week is plenty of time to recover to be honest. I know it’s a different level but I’ve seen club teams in Armagh play Sunday Wednesday Friday Sunday.
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Bollix. Its a red all day. duty of care to person you tackle.
If you go high as a player turns then you risk punishment.
Add in the fact that he had eyes on the player the whole time and made no attempt to follow the ball or intercept, as well as raise the arm.
Too loose and reckless.
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So there you are now. Some thoughts.
It was fantastic entertainment.
Rian O'Neill is a serious player. What a huge performance. Great score at the end but he was everywhere. But he is all Armagh have. A lot of the rest of them are limited players.
The sending off was a funny one. Initally I thought it very harsh, felt a yellow was enough but looking at it again last night I can see why Coldrick gave it.
Galway are a good team. A lot of Armagh ppl felt that it was only a matter of turning up. Had heard a lot of stories of Armagh fans getting carried away. Galway didn't get caught in the hype and after they settled they went about their business with great efficiency. They did shite the togs. They need to learn how to lose games out.
The row was the row and yer man made a bollocks of himself. Everyone will get off no matter what suspensions the GAA throw at them. Coldrick made a balls of it. Contributing to a melee is the referees get out of jail card. But this is a problem of the GAAs making. They have let Armagh off all year and they will continue to behave this way. Dublin and Kerry also got let off similarly.
If the GAA are serious about dealing with the issue they need to address the mess that is the rulebook. A referees report must be sacrosanct. No reds overturned ever. No matter what. If the ref gets it wrong, he gets it wrong. Tough. Use only video to retrospectively ban for serious foul play missed by the referee. If he deals with it, then that's the matter closed. No appeals on technicalities because the report wasn't submitted in 4 different versions of Irish or this nonsense.
So Coldrick made a balls of it but the refs report must be sacrosanct. If you’re winding at least don’t make it so obvious. Sean Kelly doesn’t deserve to miss an all ireland semi final. Thought the ref was woeful all day tbh.
I'm not winding. If Coldrick thought he had any power he'd have lined 15 from each side. The rulebook is a mess and then by extension so was his handling of the row.
I was kind of on your side but you know what you're proving everyone's point. Armagh can do no wrong. It's their responsibility. There is a clear Armagh directive, one in all in. Can't send us all off boys. They all pumped up out of their minds like McGeeney was when he played.
Armagh are playing with the big boys now and need to realise that every single incident will be poured over. Tyrone live with this daily.
Tyrone haven't lived with it much this year anyway, they were long gone before the championship had even begun in earnest.
Sean Kelly will get off on appeal because looking at the replay he done nothing to warrant a red card. The Galway player that swung a punch at Kelly should get banned and after that it was all argy bargy stuff with very little actual foul play. But the media will make a big deal of it as usual and big bad Armagh will probably get the blame.
Jesus Christ. A person could have lost his sight.
If Armagh owned up here ppl would have more sympathy.
Plenty of Armagh people calling out the gouging, not so many others calling Comer out for starting it. It is unsightly and the GAA needs to do more to stop it.
What did Comer do?
James Morgan started it. He was shoving Comer the whole way to the tunnel.
Watched it again - the Armagh No. 3 was over goading Comer also.
First thing for the semi-finals in one team each in the Hogan and Cusack Stand changing rooms.
Put the photo bench in mid-field for the photographers. :)
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Bollix. Its a red all day. duty of care to person you tackle.
If you go high as a player turns then you risk punishment.
Add in the fact that he had eyes on the player the whole time and made no attempt to follow the ball or intercept, as well as raise the arm.
Too loose and reckless.
Tell me you’ve never played football without telling me you’ve never played football.
Anyway, didn’t matter in the grand scheme of things
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Instead of playing the man in this instance, maybe youll tell me where im wrong.
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We'll agree to disagree, in the world of finance the GAA will listen to the likes of Joyce and the public opinion on using penalties, with pressure being applied from sponsors and media. We seen the reality of the plan yesterday and I expect some head scratching in Croke Park this morning. There would have to be compromise and the Dublin Meath saga could never happen again but after such a high profile game yesterday the GAA will use it to make a slight change again imo.
The world of finance? The GAA are turning down lucrative replays here. For once, we can't throw the finance thing at them
😂.. no we can't to be fair but is it sustainable? My opinion like many is more about fairness on the players but when we think about it, the GAA are potentially throwing away over €1million, imagine a semi final goes the same way as yesterday. Media and sponsors would of loved another Armagh v Galway game in a packed stadium. I think decide on the day in the first match is crazy and when common sense takes over the authorities will all agree.
But we can't have it both ways, especially in these times. Are we expecting players and supporters of one of teh teams go out to Croke Park 3 weekends in a row now? We've known about this all year. A big game would always have these discussions, but we'll get used to it and move on
Happily. Cut ticket prices for a replay though.
Well of course you'd say that this morning. But it's not just price (and they used to cut replay prices alright). Just next weekend was meant to be off for players, and now we have some saying 3 weeks in a row is no issue, with the final 2 weeks after. Potentially 4 games in 5 weeks? Nah way...
Ah ffs catch yourself on, players would play a game every night of the week to get to an AI semi-final.
Of course they would. That's literally my point, but it wouldn't be fair on them. But it's not up to the GAA to flog them like that, they have to think on that stuff now. There's a reason we don't leave these decisions to the players. The right call was made with penalties seeing as we have a split season.
Ah in fairness at that level those lads could play 2 days in a row. Molloy from Galway played twice in one day for NUIG and Corofin I’m nearly sure once as well. A week is plenty of time to recover to be honest. I know it’s a different level but I’ve seen club teams in Armagh play Sunday Wednesday Friday Sunday.
And we see players like Clifford being bollixed as he was made play 2 games in one day when the Sigerson was on. He's only now coming back from injuries. No sports scientist on the planet would allow 2 high intensity games in 2 days. They're amateurs, they need recovery. What is to be gained from flogging them?
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The brawl really didn't help Armagh this time, the momentum was all with them, it felt like there was a long delay from normal time to extra time starting to deal with the brawl.
Credit to both teams though
Hugely understated fact that.
Armagh were on the crest of a wave, pulling back what looked like an unsurmountable Galway lead. Galway defence were at 6's and 7's.
If you were from Armagh you'd have wanted extra time to start right away, rather than the protracted delay which gave the Galway lads a chance to regain their focus.
Momentum is key, Armagh had it at the final whistle but went mad at a nothing coming together between Comer and the fullback, subs and extended panel need a boot up the hole.
As for McGeeney, I wouldn't expect anything less from him in defending his players in public but behind the scenes he needs to be more measured and decisive in their discipline.
Next year everyone and their dog will be onto them and they need to be squeaky clean.
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So there you are now. Some thoughts.
It was fantastic entertainment.
Rian O'Neill is a serious player. What a huge performance. Great score at the end but he was everywhere. But he is all Armagh have. A lot of the rest of them are limited players.
The sending off was a funny one. Initally I thought it very harsh, felt a yellow was enough but looking at it again last night I can see why Coldrick gave it.
Galway are a good team. A lot of Armagh ppl felt that it was only a matter of turning up. Had heard a lot of stories of Armagh fans getting carried away. Galway didn't get caught in the hype and after they settled they went about their business with great efficiency. They did shite the togs. They need to learn how to lose games out.
The row was the row and yer man made a bollocks of himself. Everyone will get off no matter what suspensions the GAA throw at them. Coldrick made a balls of it. Contributing to a melee is the referees get out of jail card. But this is a problem of the GAAs making. They have let Armagh off all year and they will continue to behave this way. Dublin and Kerry also got let off similarly.
If the GAA are serious about dealing with the issue they need to address the mess that is the rulebook. A referees report must be sacrosanct. No reds overturned ever. No matter what. If the ref gets it wrong, he gets it wrong. Tough. Use only video to retrospectively ban for serious foul play missed by the referee. If he deals with it, then that's the matter closed. No appeals on technicalities because the report wasn't submitted in 4 different versions of Irish or this nonsense.
So Coldrick made a balls of it but the refs report must be sacrosanct. If you’re winding at least don’t make it so obvious. Sean Kelly doesn’t deserve to miss an all ireland semi final. Thought the ref was woeful all day tbh.
I'm not winding. If Coldrick thought he had any power he'd have lined 15 from each side. The rulebook is a mess and then by extension so was his handling of the row.
I was kind of on your side but you know what you're proving everyone's point. Armagh can do no wrong. It's their responsibility. There is a clear Armagh directive, one in all in. Can't send us all off boys. They all pumped up out of their minds like McGeeney was when he played.
Armagh are playing with the big boys now and need to realise that every single incident will be poured over. Tyrone live with this daily.
Tyrone haven't lived with it much this year anyway, they were long gone before the championship had even begun in earnest.
Sean Kelly will get off on appeal because looking at the replay he done nothing to warrant a red card. The Galway player that swung a punch at Kelly should get banned and after that it was all argy bargy stuff with very little actual foul play. But the media will make a big deal of it as usual and big bad Armagh will probably get the blame.
Genuinely hope he does get off-very unfair on him. Will Nugent and Greg’s suspension carry to next year? They both deserve to get off too.
Don’t think you’ll find too many people complaining if that lad gets off too.
Why Mc Cabe?
His was a deserved red.
A yellow at best imo. Split second off being a perfect tackle- if you’re getting red carded for that then may as well make it non contact
You must be the only person who thinks it's a yellow.
Dangerously high.
It doesn't matter if it's a second off or the intention was to go shoulder to shoulder.
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We'll agree to disagree, in the world of finance the GAA will listen to the likes of Joyce and the public opinion on using penalties, with pressure being applied from sponsors and media. We seen the reality of the plan yesterday and I expect some head scratching in Croke Park this morning. There would have to be compromise and the Dublin Meath saga could never happen again but after such a high profile game yesterday the GAA will use it to make a slight change again imo.
The world of finance? The GAA are turning down lucrative replays here. For once, we can't throw the finance thing at them
😂.. no we can't to be fair but is it sustainable? My opinion like many is more about fairness on the players but when we think about it, the GAA are potentially throwing away over €1million, imagine a semi final goes the same way as yesterday. Media and sponsors would of loved another Armagh v Galway game in a packed stadium. I think decide on the day in the first match is crazy and when common sense takes over the authorities will all agree.
But we can't have it both ways, especially in these times. Are we expecting players and supporters of one of teh teams go out to Croke Park 3 weekends in a row now? We've known about this all year. A big game would always have these discussions, but we'll get used to it and move on
Happily. Cut ticket prices for a replay though.
Well of course you'd say that this morning. But it's not just price (and they used to cut replay prices alright). Just next weekend was meant to be off for players, and now we have some saying 3 weeks in a row is no issue, with the final 2 weeks after. Potentially 4 games in 5 weeks? Nah way...
Ah ffs catch yourself on, players would play a game every night of the week to get to an AI semi-final.
Of course they would. That's literally my point, but it wouldn't be fair on them. But it's not up to the GAA to flog them like that, they have to think on that stuff now. There's a reason we don't leave these decisions to the players. The right call was made with penalties seeing as we have a split season.
Ah in fairness at that level those lads could play 2 days in a row. Molloy from Galway played twice in one day for NUIG and Corofin I’m nearly sure once as well. A week is plenty of time to recover to be honest. I know it’s a different level but I’ve seen club teams in Armagh play Sunday Wednesday Friday Sunday.
And we see players like Clifford being bollixed as he was made play 2 games in one day when the Sigerson was on. He's only now coming back from injuries. No sports scientist on the planet would allow 2 high intensity games in 2 days. They're amateurs, they need recovery. What is to be gained from flogging them?
a full week off would be fine I wasn’t seriously suggesting that a replay happens today.
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So there you are now. Some thoughts.
It was fantastic entertainment.
Rian O'Neill is a serious player. What a huge performance. Great score at the end but he was everywhere. But he is all Armagh have. A lot of the rest of them are limited players.
The sending off was a funny one. Initally I thought it very harsh, felt a yellow was enough but looking at it again last night I can see why Coldrick gave it.
Galway are a good team. A lot of Armagh ppl felt that it was only a matter of turning up. Had heard a lot of stories of Armagh fans getting carried away. Galway didn't get caught in the hype and after they settled they went about their business with great efficiency. They did shite the togs. They need to learn how to lose games out.
The row was the row and yer man made a bollocks of himself. Everyone will get off no matter what suspensions the GAA throw at them. Coldrick made a balls of it. Contributing to a melee is the referees get out of jail card. But this is a problem of the GAAs making. They have let Armagh off all year and they will continue to behave this way. Dublin and Kerry also got let off similarly.
If the GAA are serious about dealing with the issue they need to address the mess that is the rulebook. A referees report must be sacrosanct. No reds overturned ever. No matter what. If the ref gets it wrong, he gets it wrong. Tough. Use only video to retrospectively ban for serious foul play missed by the referee. If he deals with it, then that's the matter closed. No appeals on technicalities because the report wasn't submitted in 4 different versions of Irish or this nonsense.
So Coldrick made a balls of it but the refs report must be sacrosanct. If you’re winding at least don’t make it so obvious. Sean Kelly doesn’t deserve to miss an all ireland semi final. Thought the ref was woeful all day tbh.
I'm not winding. If Coldrick thought he had any power he'd have lined 15 from each side. The rulebook is a mess and then by extension so was his handling of the row.
I was kind of on your side but you know what you're proving everyone's point. Armagh can do no wrong. It's their responsibility. There is a clear Armagh directive, one in all in. Can't send us all off boys. They all pumped up out of their minds like McGeeney was when he played.
Armagh are playing with the big boys now and need to realise that every single incident will be poured over. Tyrone live with this daily.
Tyrone haven't lived with it much this year anyway, they were long gone before the championship had even begun in earnest.
Sean Kelly will get off on appeal because looking at the replay he done nothing to warrant a red card. The Galway player that swung a punch at Kelly should get banned and after that it was all argy bargy stuff with very little actual foul play. But the media will make a big deal of it as usual and big bad Armagh will probably get the blame.
Genuinely hope he does get off-very unfair on him. Will Nugent and Greg’s suspension carry to next year? They both deserve to get off too.
Don’t think you’ll find too many people complaining if that lad gets off too.
Why Mc Cabe?
His was a deserved red.
A yellow at best imo. Split second off being a perfect tackle- if you’re getting red carded for that then may as well make it non contact
You must be the only person who thinks it's a yellow.
Dangerously high.
It doesn't matter if it's a second off or the intention was to go shoulder to shoulder.
Loads of people thought that was only yellow.
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So there you are now. Some thoughts.
It was fantastic entertainment.
Rian O'Neill is a serious player. What a huge performance. Great score at the end but he was everywhere. But he is all Armagh have. A lot of the rest of them are limited players.
The sending off was a funny one. Initally I thought it very harsh, felt a yellow was enough but looking at it again last night I can see why Coldrick gave it.
Galway are a good team. A lot of Armagh ppl felt that it was only a matter of turning up. Had heard a lot of stories of Armagh fans getting carried away. Galway didn't get caught in the hype and after they settled they went about their business with great efficiency. They did shite the togs. They need to learn how to lose games out.
The row was the row and yer man made a bollocks of himself. Everyone will get off no matter what suspensions the GAA throw at them. Coldrick made a balls of it. Contributing to a melee is the referees get out of jail card. But this is a problem of the GAAs making. They have let Armagh off all year and they will continue to behave this way. Dublin and Kerry also got let off similarly.
If the GAA are serious about dealing with the issue they need to address the mess that is the rulebook. A referees report must be sacrosanct. No reds overturned ever. No matter what. If the ref gets it wrong, he gets it wrong. Tough. Use only video to retrospectively ban for serious foul play missed by the referee. If he deals with it, then that's the matter closed. No appeals on technicalities because the report wasn't submitted in 4 different versions of Irish or this nonsense.
So Coldrick made a balls of it but the refs report must be sacrosanct. If you’re winding at least don’t make it so obvious. Sean Kelly doesn’t deserve to miss an all ireland semi final. Thought the ref was woeful all day tbh.
I'm not winding. If Coldrick thought he had any power he'd have lined 15 from each side. The rulebook is a mess and then by extension so was his handling of the row.
I was kind of on your side but you know what you're proving everyone's point. Armagh can do no wrong. It's their responsibility. There is a clear Armagh directive, one in all in. Can't send us all off boys. They all pumped up out of their minds like McGeeney was when he played.
Armagh are playing with the big boys now and need to realise that every single incident will be poured over. Tyrone live with this daily.
Tyrone haven't lived with it much this year anyway, they were long gone before the championship had even begun in earnest.
Sean Kelly will get off on appeal because looking at the replay he done nothing to warrant a red card. The Galway player that swung a punch at Kelly should get banned and after that it was all argy bargy stuff with very little actual foul play. But the media will make a big deal of it as usual and big bad Armagh will probably get the blame.
Genuinely hope he does get off-very unfair on him. Will Nugent and Greg’s suspension carry to next year? They both deserve to get off too.
Don’t think you’ll find too many people complaining if that lad gets off too.
Why Mc Cabe?
His was a deserved red.
A yellow at best imo. Split second off being a perfect tackle- if you’re getting red carded for that then may as well make it non contact
You must be the only person who thinks it's a yellow.
Dangerously high.
It doesn't matter if it's a second off or the intention was to go shoulder to shoulder.
[/b] It should. Imo lads shouldn’t be getting sent in the white heat of championship for mistimed challenges.
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So there you are now. Some thoughts.
It was fantastic entertainment.
Rian O'Neill is a serious player. What a huge performance. Great score at the end but he was everywhere. But he is all Armagh have. A lot of the rest of them are limited players.
The sending off was a funny one. Initally I thought it very harsh, felt a yellow was enough but looking at it again last night I can see why Coldrick gave it.
Galway are a good team. A lot of Armagh ppl felt that it was only a matter of turning up. Had heard a lot of stories of Armagh fans getting carried away. Galway didn't get caught in the hype and after they settled they went about their business with great efficiency. They did shite the togs. They need to learn how to lose games out.
The row was the row and yer man made a bollocks of himself. Everyone will get off no matter what suspensions the GAA throw at them. Coldrick made a balls of it. Contributing to a melee is the referees get out of jail card. But this is a problem of the GAAs making. They have let Armagh off all year and they will continue to behave this way. Dublin and Kerry also got let off similarly.
If the GAA are serious about dealing with the issue they need to address the mess that is the rulebook. A referees report must be sacrosanct. No reds overturned ever. No matter what. If the ref gets it wrong, he gets it wrong. Tough. Use only video to retrospectively ban for serious foul play missed by the referee. If he deals with it, then that's the matter closed. No appeals on technicalities because the report wasn't submitted in 4 different versions of Irish or this nonsense.
So Coldrick made a balls of it but the refs report must be sacrosanct. If you’re winding at least don’t make it so obvious. Sean Kelly doesn’t deserve to miss an all ireland semi final. Thought the ref was woeful all day tbh.
I'm not winding. If Coldrick thought he had any power he'd have lined 15 from each side. The rulebook is a mess and then by extension so was his handling of the row.
I was kind of on your side but you know what you're proving everyone's point. Armagh can do no wrong. It's their responsibility. There is a clear Armagh directive, one in all in. Can't send us all off boys. They all pumped up out of their minds like McGeeney was when he played.
Armagh are playing with the big boys now and need to realise that every single incident will be poured over. Tyrone live with this daily.
Tyrone haven't lived with it much this year anyway, they were long gone before the championship had even begun in earnest.
Sean Kelly will get off on appeal because looking at the replay he done nothing to warrant a red card. The Galway player that swung a punch at Kelly should get banned and after that it was all argy bargy stuff with very little actual foul play. But the media will make a big deal of it as usual and big bad Armagh will probably get the blame.
Genuinely hope he does get off-very unfair on him. Will Nugent and Greg’s suspension carry to next year? They both deserve to get off too.
Don’t think you’ll find too many people complaining if that lad gets off too.
Why Mc Cabe?
His was a deserved red.
A yellow at best imo. Split second off being a perfect tackle- if you’re getting red carded for that then may as well make it non contact
You must be the only person who thinks it's a yellow.
Dangerously high.
It doesn't matter if it's a second off or the intention was to go shoulder to shoulder.
[/b] It should. Imo lads shouldn’t be getting sent in the white heat of championship for mistimed challenges.
Lol.
Is this a joke?
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So there you are now. Some thoughts.
It was fantastic entertainment.
Rian O'Neill is a serious player. What a huge performance. Great score at the end but he was everywhere. But he is all Armagh have. A lot of the rest of them are limited players.
The sending off was a funny one. Initally I thought it very harsh, felt a yellow was enough but looking at it again last night I can see why Coldrick gave it.
Galway are a good team. A lot of Armagh ppl felt that it was only a matter of turning up. Had heard a lot of stories of Armagh fans getting carried away. Galway didn't get caught in the hype and after they settled they went about their business with great efficiency. They did shite the togs. They need to learn how to lose games out.
The row was the row and yer man made a bollocks of himself. Everyone will get off no matter what suspensions the GAA throw at them. Coldrick made a balls of it. Contributing to a melee is the referees get out of jail card. But this is a problem of the GAAs making. They have let Armagh off all year and they will continue to behave this way. Dublin and Kerry also got let off similarly.
If the GAA are serious about dealing with the issue they need to address the mess that is the rulebook. A referees report must be sacrosanct. No reds overturned ever. No matter what. If the ref gets it wrong, he gets it wrong. Tough. Use only video to retrospectively ban for serious foul play missed by the referee. If he deals with it, then that's the matter closed. No appeals on technicalities because the report wasn't submitted in 4 different versions of Irish or this nonsense.
So Coldrick made a balls of it but the refs report must be sacrosanct. If you’re winding at least don’t make it so obvious. Sean Kelly doesn’t deserve to miss an all ireland semi final. Thought the ref was woeful all day tbh.
I'm not winding. If Coldrick thought he had any power he'd have lined 15 from each side. The rulebook is a mess and then by extension so was his handling of the row.
I was kind of on your side but you know what you're proving everyone's point. Armagh can do no wrong. It's their responsibility. There is a clear Armagh directive, one in all in. Can't send us all off boys. They all pumped up out of their minds like McGeeney was when he played.
Armagh are playing with the big boys now and need to realise that every single incident will be poured over. Tyrone live with this daily.
Tyrone haven't lived with it much this year anyway, they were long gone before the championship had even begun in earnest.
Sean Kelly will get off on appeal because looking at the replay he done nothing to warrant a red card. The Galway player that swung a punch at Kelly should get banned and after that it was all argy bargy stuff with very little actual foul play. But the media will make a big deal of it as usual and big bad Armagh will probably get the blame.
Genuinely hope he does get off-very unfair on him. Will Nugent and Greg’s suspension carry to next year? They both deserve to get off too.
Don’t think you’ll find too many people complaining if that lad gets off too.
Why Mc Cabe?
His was a deserved red.
A yellow at best imo. Split second off being a perfect tackle- if you’re getting red carded for that then may as well make it non contact
You must be the only person who thinks it's a yellow.
Dangerously high.
It doesn't matter if it's a second off or the intention was to go shoulder to shoulder.
[/b] It should. Imo lads shouldn’t be getting sent in the white heat of championship for mistimed challenges.
They absolutely should
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So there you are now. Some thoughts.
It was fantastic entertainment.
Rian O'Neill is a serious player. What a huge performance. Great score at the end but he was everywhere. But he is all Armagh have. A lot of the rest of them are limited players.
The sending off was a funny one. Initally I thought it very harsh, felt a yellow was enough but looking at it again last night I can see why Coldrick gave it.
Galway are a good team. A lot of Armagh ppl felt that it was only a matter of turning up. Had heard a lot of stories of Armagh fans getting carried away. Galway didn't get caught in the hype and after they settled they went about their business with great efficiency. They did shite the togs. They need to learn how to lose games out.
The row was the row and yer man made a bollocks of himself. Everyone will get off no matter what suspensions the GAA throw at them. Coldrick made a balls of it. Contributing to a melee is the referees get out of jail card. But this is a problem of the GAAs making. They have let Armagh off all year and they will continue to behave this way. Dublin and Kerry also got let off similarly.
If the GAA are serious about dealing with the issue they need to address the mess that is the rulebook. A referees report must be sacrosanct. No reds overturned ever. No matter what. If the ref gets it wrong, he gets it wrong. Tough. Use only video to retrospectively ban for serious foul play missed by the referee. If he deals with it, then that's the matter closed. No appeals on technicalities because the report wasn't submitted in 4 different versions of Irish or this nonsense.
So Coldrick made a balls of it but the refs report must be sacrosanct. If you’re winding at least don’t make it so obvious. Sean Kelly doesn’t deserve to miss an all ireland semi final. Thought the ref was woeful all day tbh.
I'm not winding. If Coldrick thought he had any power he'd have lined 15 from each side. The rulebook is a mess and then by extension so was his handling of the row.
I was kind of on your side but you know what you're proving everyone's point. Armagh can do no wrong. It's their responsibility. There is a clear Armagh directive, one in all in. Can't send us all off boys. They all pumped up out of their minds like McGeeney was when he played.
Armagh are playing with the big boys now and need to realise that every single incident will be poured over. Tyrone live with this daily.
Tyrone haven't lived with it much this year anyway, they were long gone before the championship had even begun in earnest.
Sean Kelly will get off on appeal because looking at the replay he done nothing to warrant a red card. The Galway player that swung a punch at Kelly should get banned and after that it was all argy bargy stuff with very little actual foul play. But the media will make a big deal of it as usual and big bad Armagh will probably get the blame.
Genuinely hope he does get off-very unfair on him. Will Nugent and Greg’s suspension carry to next year? They both deserve to get off too.
Don’t think you’ll find too many people complaining if that lad gets off too.
Why Mc Cabe?
His was a deserved red.
A yellow at best imo. Split second off being a perfect tackle- if you’re getting red carded for that then may as well make it non contact
You must be the only person who thinks it's a yellow.
Dangerously high.
It doesn't matter if it's a second off or the intention was to go shoulder to shoulder.
Loads of Armagh people thought that was only yellow.
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Nonsense
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Theyve been at it before Donaghy arrived on the ticket.
Im not referring to the gouging because thats a separate thing thats unexplainable.
Open your eyes man. James Morgan and Greg McCabe are card magnets and dont help themselves or the team with their nonsense.
There are a few others who are a shoe-in for cards every game. Armagh are a betting man's dream when it comes to cards.
You are a bullshitter. Morgan has in the past been rash and card prone. Over the last 10 or 12 years Armagh have not been involved a lot of this stuff as you suggest. This year they have been involved in 3 instances which is too much, but this happening the length and breadth of the country at club and county level your allegation that Armagh are some how world leaders at it does not stack.
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Forgot to mention Comer. I was giving out about him and his antics to my brother during the game. Fair enough they probably weren’t that bad but they annoyed me. However, once Galway scored the winner and their players were all celebrating - nothing wrong with that - Comer went and shook the hands of every Armagh player. Speaks volumes about him. Fair play.
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So there you are now. Some thoughts.
It was fantastic entertainment.
Rian O'Neill is a serious player. What a huge performance. Great score at the end but he was everywhere. But he is all Armagh have. A lot of the rest of them are limited players.
The sending off was a funny one. Initally I thought it very harsh, felt a yellow was enough but looking at it again last night I can see why Coldrick gave it.
Galway are a good team. A lot of Armagh ppl felt that it was only a matter of turning up. Had heard a lot of stories of Armagh fans getting carried away. Galway didn't get caught in the hype and after they settled they went about their business with great efficiency. They did shite the togs. They need to learn how to lose games out.
The row was the row and yer man made a bollocks of himself. Everyone will get off no matter what suspensions the GAA throw at them. Coldrick made a balls of it. Contributing to a melee is the referees get out of jail card. But this is a problem of the GAAs making. They have let Armagh off all year and they will continue to behave this way. Dublin and Kerry also got let off similarly.
If the GAA are serious about dealing with the issue they need to address the mess that is the rulebook. A referees report must be sacrosanct. No reds overturned ever. No matter what. If the ref gets it wrong, he gets it wrong. Tough. Use only video to retrospectively ban for serious foul play missed by the referee. If he deals with it, then that's the matter closed. No appeals on technicalities because the report wasn't submitted in 4 different versions of Irish or this nonsense.
So Coldrick made a balls of it but the refs report must be sacrosanct. If you’re winding at least don’t make it so obvious. Sean Kelly doesn’t deserve to miss an all ireland semi final. Thought the ref was woeful all day tbh.
I'm not winding. If Coldrick thought he had any power he'd have lined 15 from each side. The rulebook is a mess and then by extension so was his handling of the row.
I was kind of on your side but you know what you're proving everyone's point. Armagh can do no wrong. It's their responsibility. There is a clear Armagh directive, one in all in. Can't send us all off boys. They all pumped up out of their minds like McGeeney was when he played.
Armagh are playing with the big boys now and need to realise that every single incident will be poured over. Tyrone live with this daily.
Tyrone haven't lived with it much this year anyway, they were long gone before the championship had even begun in earnest.
Sean Kelly will get off on appeal because looking at the replay he done nothing to warrant a red card. The Galway player that swung a punch at Kelly should get banned and after that it was all argy bargy stuff with very little actual foul play. But the media will make a big deal of it as usual and big bad Armagh will probably get the blame.
Genuinely hope he does get off-very unfair on him. Will Nugent and Greg’s suspension carry to next year? They both deserve to get off too.
Don’t think you’ll find too many people complaining if that lad gets off too.
Why Mc Cabe?
His was a deserved red.
A yellow at best imo. Split second off being a perfect tackle- if you’re getting red carded for that then may as well make it non contact
You must be the only person who thinks it's a yellow.
Dangerously high.
It doesn't matter if it's a second off or the intention was to go shoulder to shoulder.
[/b] It should. Imo lads shouldn’t be getting sent in the white heat of championship for mistimed challenges.
When it endangers their opponent they should.
A dangerous, reckless challenge should always be a red card, regardless of whether it was intended or not.
If you're going to shoulder charge, the responsibility is on you to get it right. If you can't do it safely within the rules, you can have no complaints about being punished. Two men running parallel for a loose ball is fair game. Coming in from the side to horse a man out of it shoulder to shoulder is fair game. Launching yourself at a lad who is twisting and turning is asking for trouble for both yourself and him.
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50 pages. It's a long time since Galway footballers got such attention.
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My take on the game...
Thought it was a good game and def worth the entry fee, the Armagh fans were great and made plenty of noise contributing to the atmosphere. after the first 15 mins or so Armagh chased it the whole game and if we're all honest it was Galway's to throw away (which they almost done). The sending off from the seat inside the stadium felt harsh at the time but seeing it back last night can't argue too much with it. On reflection now the dust has settled Galway deserved their win and the very best of luck to them in the Semi Final. Armagh put that much into chasing the game and some of the subs used in Extra Time they had little in reserve and TBH I thought Galway would have put us to the sword in ET but that was not the case, both teams have to be applauded for their efforts and the contribution to a great day out.
Back to the drawing board again now for Armagh but I think we all knew this was a tough game that could have went either way and that certainly was the case...Onwards and upwards (hopefully). Good luck again Galway. As for the incident at the end of the normal time match...Don't know the lad but i'm sure he'll get a hefty suspension and being out long term with an injury it prob won't impact him too much but i'm guessing the trial by social media and the flak he'll take from this will far outweigh any GAA suspension he'll get. I know he's only a young lad and i'm not excusing what he done as it was disgraceful but i can only imagine he'll never do that again...(Here's hoping)
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We'll agree to disagree, in the world of finance the GAA will listen to the likes of Joyce and the public opinion on using penalties, with pressure being applied from sponsors and media. We seen the reality of the plan yesterday and I expect some head scratching in Croke Park this morning. There would have to be compromise and the Dublin Meath saga could never happen again but after such a high profile game yesterday the GAA will use it to make a slight change again imo.
The world of finance? The GAA are turning down lucrative replays here. For once, we can't throw the finance thing at them
😂.. no we can't to be fair but is it sustainable? My opinion like many is more about fairness on the players but when we think about it, the GAA are potentially throwing away over €1million, imagine a semi final goes the same way as yesterday. Media and sponsors would of loved another Armagh v Galway game in a packed stadium. I think decide on the day in the first match is crazy and when common sense takes over the authorities will all agree.
But we can't have it both ways, especially in these times. Are we expecting players and supporters of one of teh teams go out to Croke Park 3 weekends in a row now? We've known about this all year. A big game would always have these discussions, but we'll get used to it and move on
Happily. Cut ticket prices for a replay though.
Well of course you'd say that this morning. But it's not just price (and they used to cut replay prices alright). Just next weekend was meant to be off for players, and now we have some saying 3 weeks in a row is no issue, with the final 2 weeks after. Potentially 4 games in 5 weeks? Nah way...
Ah ffs catch yourself on, players would play a game every night of the week to get to an AI semi-final.
Of course they would. That's literally my point, but it wouldn't be fair on them. But it's not up to the GAA to flog them like that, they have to think on that stuff now. There's a reason we don't leave these decisions to the players. The right call was made with penalties seeing as we have a split season.
Ah in fairness at that level those lads could play 2 days in a row. Molloy from Galway played twice in one day for NUIG and Corofin I’m nearly sure once as well. A week is plenty of time to recover to be honest. I know it’s a different level but I’ve seen club teams in Armagh play Sunday Wednesday Friday Sunday.
And we see players like Clifford being bollixed as he was made play 2 games in one day when the Sigerson was on. He's only now coming back from injuries. No sports scientist on the planet would allow 2 high intensity games in 2 days. They're amateurs, they need recovery. What is to be gained from flogging them?
That's is an entirely different matter as it was for 2 different teams which is fair enough.
You however are arguing about players having to play 3 weekends in a row as if that is some big deal.
As Armagh18 just said to another poster 'tell me you never kicked a ball without telling me you never kicked a ball'.
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My take on the game...
Thought it was a good game and def worth the entry fee, the Armagh fans were great and made plenty of noise contributing to the atmosphere. after the first 15 mins or so Armagh chased it the whole game and if we're all honest it was Galway's to throw away (which they almost done). The sending off from the seat inside the stadium felt harsh at the time but seeing it back last night can't argue too much with it. On reflection now the dust has settled Galway deserved their win and the very best of luck to them in the Semi Final. Armagh put that much into chasing the game and some of the subs used in Extra Time they had little in reserve and TBH I thought Galway would have put us to the sword in ET but that was not the case, both teams have to be applauded for their efforts and the contribution to a great day out.
Back to the drawing board again now for Armagh but I think we all knew this was a tough game that could have went either way and that certainly was the case...Onwards and upwards (hopefully). Good luck again Galway. As for the incident at the end of the normal time match...Don't know the lad but i'm sure he'll get a hefty suspension and being out long term with an injury it prob won't impact him too much but i'm guessing the trial by social media and the flak he'll take from this will far outweigh any GAA suspension he'll get. I know he's only a young lad and i'm not excusing what he done as it was disgraceful but i can only imagine he'll never do that again...(Here's hoping)
A fair summation of the game.
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Forgot to mention Comer. I was giving out about him and his antics to my brother during the game. Fair enough they probably weren’t that bad but they annoyed me. However, once Galway scored the winner and their players were all celebrating - nothing wrong with that - Comer went and shook the hands of every Armagh player. Speaks volumes about him. Fair play.
Noticed that myself and that's exactly the way it should be. As a competitor you do whatever it takes to win the match but when its over leave it on the pitch.
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It's 100% a red card.
If I was McGeeney I'd kick that eye gouger off the panel for a year myself.
The rest was handbags and a load of nonsense as usual, it looks bad but all they need to do is have the players go in at separate times. Easy fix.
An amazing game that I can't believe Galway let slip in normal time, they were much the better side once they rode the Armagh wave in the first 20 minutes. Credit to Armagh's mental strength to come back but they needed cool heads then at full time, if they just got down the tunnel with no nonsense I think they'd have come out and blown Galway away.
Finnerty, Tierney and McDaid were sensational for Galway. Can't wait for that semi-final, it should be a cracker.
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Theyve been at it before Donaghy arrived on the ticket.
Im not referring to the gouging because thats a separate thing thats unexplainable.
Open your eyes man. James Morgan and Greg McCabe are card magnets and dont help themselves or the team with their nonsense.
There are a few others who are a shoe-in for cards every game. Armagh are a betting man's dream when it comes to cards.
You are a bullshitter. Morgan has in the past been rash and card prone. Over the last 10 or 12 years Armagh have not been involved a lot of this stuff as you suggest. This year they have been involved in 3 instances which is too much, but this happening the length and breadth of the country at club and county level your allegation that Armagh are some how world leaders at it does not stack.
So we're into personal insults now because you disagree strongly with an opinion.
Classy. Then again i shouldnt be surprised.
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We'll agree to disagree, in the world of finance the GAA will listen to the likes of Joyce and the public opinion on using penalties, with pressure being applied from sponsors and media. We seen the reality of the plan yesterday and I expect some head scratching in Croke Park this morning. There would have to be compromise and the Dublin Meath saga could never happen again but after such a high profile game yesterday the GAA will use it to make a slight change again imo.
The world of finance? The GAA are turning down lucrative replays here. For once, we can't throw the finance thing at them
😂.. no we can't to be fair but is it sustainable? My opinion like many is more about fairness on the players but when we think about it, the GAA are potentially throwing away over €1million, imagine a semi final goes the same way as yesterday. Media and sponsors would of loved another Armagh v Galway game in a packed stadium. I think decide on the day in the first match is crazy and when common sense takes over the authorities will all agree.
But we can't have it both ways, especially in these times. Are we expecting players and supporters of one of teh teams go out to Croke Park 3 weekends in a row now? We've known about this all year. A big game would always have these discussions, but we'll get used to it and move on
Happily. Cut ticket prices for a replay though.
Well of course you'd say that this morning. But it's not just price (and they used to cut replay prices alright). Just next weekend was meant to be off for players, and now we have some saying 3 weeks in a row is no issue, with the final 2 weeks after. Potentially 4 games in 5 weeks? Nah way...
Ah ffs catch yourself on, players would play a game every night of the week to get to an AI semi-final.
Of course they would. That's literally my point, but it wouldn't be fair on them. But it's not up to the GAA to flog them like that, they have to think on that stuff now. There's a reason we don't leave these decisions to the players. The right call was made with penalties seeing as we have a split season.
Ah in fairness at that level those lads could play 2 days in a row. Molloy from Galway played twice in one day for NUIG and Corofin I’m nearly sure once as well. A week is plenty of time to recover to be honest. I know it’s a different level but I’ve seen club teams in Armagh play Sunday Wednesday Friday Sunday.
And we see players like Clifford being bollixed as he was made play 2 games in one day when the Sigerson was on. He's only now coming back from injuries. No sports scientist on the planet would allow 2 high intensity games in 2 days. They're amateurs, they need recovery. What is to be gained from flogging them?
That's is an entirely different matter as it was for 2 different teams which is fair enough.
You however are arguing about players having to play 3 weekends in a row as if that is some big deal.
As Armagh18 just said to another poster 'tell me you never kicked a ball without telling me you never kicked a ball'.
It's not really. O'Connor played him in a pre season tournament rather than not risking him after he played Sigerson. No real need to go 3 weeks in a row of games the intensity of All Ireland QFs and then a SF. No need for it these days, and the calendar doesn't allow it now. I have played ball btw. A while ago to be fair, although still play club hurling.
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Theyve been at it before Donaghy arrived on the ticket.
Im not referring to the gouging because thats a separate thing thats unexplainable.
Open your eyes man. James Morgan and Greg McCabe are card magnets and dont help themselves or the team with their nonsense.
There are a few others who are a shoe-in for cards every game. Armagh are a betting man's dream when it comes to cards.
You are a bullshitter. Morgan has in the past been rash and card prone. Over the last 10 or 12 years Armagh have not been involved a lot of this stuff as you suggest. This year they have been involved in 3 instances which is too much, but this happening the length and breadth of the country at club and county level your allegation that Armagh are some how world leaders at it does not stack.
So we're into personal insults now because you disagree strongly with an opinion.
Classy. Then again i shouldnt be surprised.
Its not personal, its not an insult, you are bullshitting and labelling a whole county and its players as perennial thugs based on zero evidence. I don't know you so can only comment on your posts and not you personally.
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Theyve been at it before Donaghy arrived on the ticket.
Im not referring to the gouging because thats a separate thing thats unexplainable.
Open your eyes man. James Morgan and Greg McCabe are card magnets and dont help themselves or the team with their nonsense.
There are a few others who are a shoe-in for cards every game. Armagh are a betting man's dream when it comes to cards.
You are a bullshitter. Morgan has in the past been rash and card prone. Over the last 10 or 12 years Armagh have not been involved a lot of this stuff as you suggest. This year they have been involved in 3 instances which is too much, but this happening the length and breadth of the country at club and county level your allegation that Armagh are some how world leaders at it does not stack.
So we're into personal insults now because you disagree strongly with an opinion.
Classy. Then again i shouldnt be surprised.
Just enjoy thier loss Brick. Still buzzing.
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McGeeney let himself down badly in the interview after the game. Turning three question on the journalist and asking him what he'd do if he was pushed. McGeeney enjoys his hard man reputation too much to really stamp out this sort of thing among his panel. What's this, 9 years and not even a final appearance in Championship?
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Theyve been at it before Donaghy arrived on the ticket.
Im not referring to the gouging because thats a separate thing thats unexplainable.
Open your eyes man. James Morgan and Greg McCabe are card magnets and dont help themselves or the team with their nonsense.
There are a few others who are a shoe-in for cards every game. Armagh are a betting man's dream when it comes to cards.
You are a bullshitter. Morgan has in the past been rash and card prone. Over the last 10 or 12 years Armagh have not been involved a lot of this stuff as you suggest. This year they have been involved in 3 instances which is too much, but this happening the length and breadth of the country at club and county level your allegation that Armagh are some how world leaders at it does not stack.
So we're into personal insults now because you disagree strongly with an opinion.
Classy. Then again i shouldnt be surprised.
Just enjoy thier loss Brick. Still buzzing.
Lol be a while before you lot get a run out at Croke park. Maybe one of your refs will you can all go and support him ;D
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Theyve been at it before Donaghy arrived on the ticket.
Im not referring to the gouging because thats a separate thing thats unexplainable.
Open your eyes man. James Morgan and Greg McCabe are card magnets and dont help themselves or the team with their nonsense.
There are a few others who are a shoe-in for cards every game. Armagh are a betting man's dream when it comes to cards.
You are a bullshitter. Morgan has in the past been rash and card prone. Over the last 10 or 12 years Armagh have not been involved a lot of this stuff as you suggest. This year they have been involved in 3 instances which is too much, but this happening the length and breadth of the country at club and county level your allegation that Armagh are some how world leaders at it does not stack.
So we're into personal insults now because you disagree strongly with an opinion.
Classy. Then again i shouldnt be surprised.
Its not personal, you are bullshitting and labelling a whole county and its players as perennial thugs based on zero evidence.
You personally insulted me. Its black n white.
Where did i label a whole county and its players as perennial thugs. Those are your own words not mine. Be careful.
Theres plenty of evidence to suggest that Armagh have several players with issues when it comes to controlling aggression, breaking playing rules, getting themselves carded.
I actually think Armagh folk are a great bunch. Have had many a positive interaction with them on and off the pitch for last 30 years and count them as good friends.
Im actually a fan of the football they play. How could you not be.
Im not sure where all this hate and anger comes from today.
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I've played championship 3 times in a week at one stage in the past. Unforgettable sequence of games and would have loved to have had the opportunity to do that every season. As would every other person involved when we chat about it.
Or maybe the adverse effect the traumatic experience of playing so many high intensity games has had on the oul mental health has distorted our reality
Any player would give their left nut to get playing 3 massive games in Croke Park 3 weeks in a row. Anybody that says different must be smoking ganga or otherwise off their f45860g rocker.
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Its all in the coaching and team culture built up over a number of years. If anyone thinks that McKLeever and McGeeneys 'style' isnt all over that team then they need their heads read.
Monkey see monkey do.
Its premeditated not to ever actually strike. Becasue thats a sending off offence. So lads, no striking whatever you do.
But make sure you grapple, wrestle, grab, twist and hold onto him like your life depends on it and dont ever back down or let go first. Thats a sign of weakness and we cant have that, because after all, we're all big men and we like to flex how big we are.
Whilst there is alot to admire about Armagh's journey and football theyve played, they still get involved too much, indulge in thuggish shite and foul too easily. Their obsession with chest beating macho bull shit and insistence in turning every game into a dick-measuring contest was always gonna bite them at some stage.
Theyve lost this particular dick-measuring contest and its gonna hurt for a while.
I’ve read some shite on here (mostly Tyrone and Derry people, ironically) chastising Armagh for yesterdays handbags. I’m not sure Armagh are coached to do anything specifically in terms of dark arts but the only criticism I’ll accept is that the management clearly haven’t learned anything this year in terms of other teams riling them up.
I’ve asked it before but what exactly do Armagh, or any team for that matter, have to gain by starting a melee? There is literally nothing to be achieved from a premeditated melee. Fair criticism of McGeeney/McKeever would be that their players fall for this shite too much: happened with Donegal, it happened with Tyrone and it happened again yesterday. TK deserves a hefty ban and if the powers that be make an example of him, so be it; moronic behaviour from him and something he shouldn’t have involved himself with.
What has this got to do with yesterday.
The Armagh #2 ran after Comer and barged into him on the way to the tunnel.
Thats how the melee started
No it’s not, Comer went for James Morgan after something between him and Walsh, that’s how it started. Forker then got involved and straight away both teams went into full handbag mode
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End of the day managers attitude is alot to blame especially McGeeney Attitude. Dublin were the masters of goading to Pat Kilroy came onboard and cut it out over night. Armagh been involved in 3 pile on this year. Bad one few yrs ago against Cavan, and the worst one was a U-21 game with Tyrone a few yrs bck. It doesn't happen in soccer/Rugby cause they issues punishments for such. And the general attitude is there's nothing wrong with it. No wonder children now aday grow up with attitude of its someone else fault. And on the row, the initial instigator was Morgan not Comer, who shouldn't been on the field after blindsiding Walsh earlier.
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15 minutes of highlights
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwPv66E0jMU
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Its all in the coaching and team culture built up over a number of years. If anyone thinks that McKLeever and McGeeneys 'style' isnt all over that team then they need their heads read.
Monkey see monkey do.
Its premeditated not to ever actually strike. Becasue thats a sending off offence. So lads, no striking whatever you do.
But make sure you grapple, wrestle, grab, twist and hold onto him like your life depends on it and dont ever back down or let go first. Thats a sign of weakness and we cant have that, because after all, we're all big men and we like to flex how big we are.
Whilst there is alot to admire about Armagh's journey and football theyve played, they still get involved too much, indulge in thuggish shite and foul too easily. Their obsession with chest beating macho bull shit and insistence in turning every game into a dick-measuring contest was always gonna bite them at some stage.
Theyve lost this particular dick-measuring contest and its gonna hurt for a while.
I’ve read some shite on here (mostly Tyrone and Derry people, ironically) chastising Armagh for yesterdays handbags. I’m not sure Armagh are coached to do anything specifically in terms of dark arts but the only criticism I’ll accept is that the management clearly haven’t learned anything this year in terms of other teams riling them up.
I’ve asked it before but what exactly do Armagh, or any team for that matter, have to gain by starting a melee? There is literally nothing to be achieved from a premeditated melee. Fair criticism of McGeeney/McKeever would be that their players fall for this shite too much: happened with Donegal, it happened with Tyrone and it happened again yesterday. TK deserves a hefty ban and if the powers that be make an example of him, so be it; moronic behaviour from him and something he shouldn’t have involved himself with.
Youve asked so ill answer (even though id thought the answer pretty obvious).
Teams/players will engage in nonsense and start into other players (usually the star men) because if you can get a psychological advantage at all by putting your opponent off his game so much that he might lash out or take his eye off the ball or his own game, then its worthwhile and can help your own team that extra 1%. We all know it goes on and our games, rules and officials facilitate it. Its usually the inferior footballer, the technically weaker player who has to rely on starting shite with his opponent becasue he's simply not good enough to go toe-to-toe with his direct opponent.
Cant believe this needs explaining
I can’t believe you actually think a team playing in Croke park would pre-meditate something like this with the whole of the country watching. Given how Armagh have (stupidly) been involved in shite like this before earlier in the year, with absolutely zero impact on the outcome of those respective games (if anything added hassle and distractions) it’s astounding that you think that any team, let alone an intercounty team in an AI QF, would use such behaviour as a vehicle to psychologically gain some sort of advantage when the game is in the melting pot. Only a colossal moron would think there is anything to be gained from starting a melee.
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Come off it general_lee, are you actually serious here? Must be a WUM
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Theyve been at it before Donaghy arrived on the ticket.
Im not referring to the gouging because thats a separate thing thats unexplainable.
Open your eyes man. James Morgan and Greg McCabe are card magnets and dont help themselves or the team with their nonsense.
There are a few others who are a shoe-in for cards every game. Armagh are a betting man's dream when it comes to cards.
You are a bullshitter. Morgan has in the past been rash and card prone. Over the last 10 or 12 years Armagh have not been involved a lot of this stuff as you suggest. This year they have been involved in 3 instances which is too much, but this happening the length and breadth of the country at club and county level your allegation that Armagh are some how world leaders at it does not stack.
So we're into personal insults now because you disagree strongly with an opinion.
Classy. Then again i shouldnt be surprised.
Just enjoy thier loss Brick. Still buzzing.
Lol be a while before you lot get a run out at Croke park. Maybe one of your refs will you can all go and support him ;D
You know you're at rock bottom whenever you get your kicks out of other teams losing.
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Theyve been at it before Donaghy arrived on the ticket.
Im not referring to the gouging because thats a separate thing thats unexplainable.
Open your eyes man. James Morgan and Greg McCabe are card magnets and dont help themselves or the team with their nonsense.
There are a few others who are a shoe-in for cards every game. Armagh are a betting man's dream when it comes to cards.
You are a bullshitter. Morgan has in the past been rash and card prone. Over the last 10 or 12 years Armagh have not been involved a lot of this stuff as you suggest. This year they have been involved in 3 instances which is too much, but this happening the length and breadth of the country at club and county level your allegation that Armagh are some how world leaders at it does not stack.
So we're into personal insults now because you disagree strongly with an opinion.
Classy. Then again i shouldnt be surprised.
Its not personal, you are bullshitting and labelling a whole county and its players as perennial thugs based on zero evidence.
You personally insulted me. Its black n white.
Where did i label a whole county and its players as perennial thugs. Those are your own words not mine. Be careful.
Theres plenty of evidence to suggest that Armagh have several players with issues when it comes to controlling aggression, breaking playing rules, getting themselves carded.
I actually think Armagh folk are a great bunch. Have had many a positive interaction with them on and off the pitch for last 30 years and count them as good friends.
Im actually a fan of the football they play. How could you not be.
Im not sure where all this hate and anger comes from today.
No hate, no anger read my take on yesterday, but suggesting that Armagh were wholly to blame and have been at it for years is just errant nonsense. If you are insulted that I believe that you are bullshitting there is nothing I can do for that, just my opinion of your musings and nothing personal.
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Come off it general_lee, are you actually serious here? Must be a WUM
Nah you’re right, Armagh are to blame for Comer (rightly or wrongly) going at James Morgan which was the spark that ignited the melee. They knew what they were at all along ::)
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Armagh and Derry brought a lot to this year's championship. Hopefully the progress can be maintained next year.
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There is actually a case to be made for throwing Armagh out of next years Championship. Derrytresk got 5 years for similar behaviour. Albeit they are a Tyrone team and the GAA use the Tyrone rule book when it comes to disciplinary proceedings involving the county.
Doesn't help matters when your supporters get stuck in as well!
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Come off it general_lee, are you actually serious here? Must be a WUM
Nah you’re right, Armagh are to blame for Comer (rightly or wrongly) going at James Morgan which was the spark that ignited the melee. They knew what they were at all along ::)
Comer went for Morgan after Morgan had ran through the back of him. That is a fact
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There is actually a case to be made for throwing Armagh out of next years Championship. Derrytresk got 5 years for similar behaviour. Albeit they are a Tyrone team and the GAA use the Tyrone rule book when it comes to disciplinary proceedings involving the county.
There needs to be more punishment that's for sure as Armagh have got away with the previous 2 melees they've been involved in this year.
If they keep getting away with it they are going to keep doing it.
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Absolutely loving this thread. Armagh people losing their minds. Great stuff altogether. Watching them get beat, on penalties, in the rain. Priceless. Weekend probably cost them a fortune as well. Superb.
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End of the day managers attitude is alot to blame especially McGeeney Attitude. Dublin were the masters of goading to Pat Kilroy came onboard and cut it out over night. Armagh been involved in 3 pile on this year. Bad one few yrs ago against Cavan, and the worst one was a U-21 game with Tyrone a few yrs bck. It doesn't happen in soccer/Rugby cause they issues punishments for such. And the general attitude is there's nothing wrong with it. No wonder children now aday grow up with attitude of its someone else fault. And on the row, the initial instigator was Morgan not Comer, who shouldn't been on the field after blindsiding Walsh earlier.
The "row" was mostly pushing and holding (with the obvious, much discussed, exception). This used to be known as Handbags. In non-professional rugby and soccer, these rows also happen.
As for your Helen Lovejoy "won't somebody please think of the children" line, that gave me a laugh.
Hopefully the CCCC don't loose the run of themselves due to wailing on twitter and Galway will be at full strength for the Semi-Final.
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Still feeling drained after that, so can’t imagine what the players must feel like today.
Such an incredible rollercoaster of emotions for Armagh supporters over those two or three hours. In fact, the last four weeks or so have been a rollercoaster, from the doom and gloom in advance of the Tyrone game through to the colour and noise and expectation on Sunday. Such a shame, a disgrace really, that things ended with a penalty shootout. It’s unnatural, anti-climactic, perfunctory. It doesn’t belong in the GAA - I hope the rule makers realise this before any other county is disenfranchised. Striking the ball from the ground is a fundamental skill in soccer, it is not a fundamental skill in Gaelic football. This is why penalty shootouts do not belong in the GAA.
The game in normal time was conventional enough. Armagh started well and then faded. Galway were the better team overall, and had they run out 4 or 5 point winners it would have been merited. They are a very good team that have been motoring well all year. I can see them taking care of Derry, and giving a good account of themselves in an AI final. Need to sort out that problem with high balls in and around their goals, though.
I thought I could see some heavy legs out there on the Armagh side, and it’s maybe no coincidence that some of the older lads - Murnin, Forker, Grugan, - didn’t make it to the end of extra time. Armagh have had a tougher road than Galway over the last month.
Galway were also more clinical, I think the wide count at the end of normal time was something like 8-3. Some of Armagh's shot selection was off at clutch moments - unfortunately this came back to haunt them at the death too. McCabe’s red didn’t help either - Galway hit four in a row after that and looked to have killed the game off. The red was harsh for me. There’s no malice there, it’s just a fractionally mistimed hit. Yellow would’ve done and no one would’ve complained.
Then that mad 8 or 9 minutes. First off, fair play to Coldrick for adding the time. Galway were at the fake head injury stuff all second half to kill time, so 8 minutes was the least that was justified. A stop clock is the solution to this messing. Both goals were scrappy, but they’re the type of goals you get when you want them enough. O’Neill’s free to tie it up was something else, but there was never a doubt he’d nail it.
Extra time is a blur to me. I’ll have to watch back when I have the stomach. I thought Armagh had it at two stages - after the third goal, and after Hall’s point. It was always going to be tricky to hold on against an opponent like Galway, but maybe Armagh could have done one or two things differently and held out. McDaid’s point to tie it up was exceptional, though.
The penalties are a nonsense and you couldn’t hold it against either of the two lads that missed for Armagh. But if this team ever finds itself in the position again then I’d hope lessons can be learnt from yesterday. GAA keepers are not at the same shot stopping standard as top level soccer keepers. Just hit the target with enough power and you usually score in Gaelic football. This is what Galway managed, but a couple of the Armagh penalties looked to try to be too precise, too close to the top corner.
The row was bad. And Armagh more than played their part in it. That’s three in 11 games this year, Armagh can’t keep crying that they’re just being picked on. In fact, in interviews afterwards, McGeeney more or less said that the lads have been encouraged to get on like this. To not take a step back, to get under the skin of the big boys and let them know you mean business. I get that this cocky upstart thing is an energy that the team feeds off, but for me it begins to become counterproductive after a time. In the short term you lose players and you lose focus. Longer term there is a loss of reputation, which kills you slowly as you find refs gunning for you more and more regularly. Armagh need to clean themselves up.
Tiernan Kelly in particular let himself down, and I’m sure he knows that. He should be contrite, take whatever punishment comes his way, and quietly go about working his way back into the team. He still has a fantastic football career ahead of him. It’s difficult to make excuses for something like that, but I suppose he is young and the blood was up in the moment. It looked like one of those things that takes a second to happen, but that you regret for much, much longer. The witch hunt online and in the media is pathetic, though. Hysterical squeals for lifetime bans. A lot of sanctimonious gobshites that just live for whinging about things. Luckily, the storm will move on to a different target by the middle of the week - hopefully TK keeps his head clear of the noise in the meantime.
As an Armagh supporter I’m already looking forward to 2023. The league gave a hint of it, but it’s the last three championship games that has confirmed it for me: we’re back knocking about the top table. Some serious work, and improvement, and momentum has come together over the last 18 months. Good young players have come through, and some stalwarts have elevated themselves to standards I didn’t think they had in them. The continuation of the management isn’t in any doubt, and hopefully Donaghy stays onboard too - the boys seem to feed off his enthusiasm.
I don’t think any players walk away just yet, and there’s maybe two more years in the likes of Grugan, Campbell & Forker. I can see Turbitt starting more regularly, and return for Oisin O’Neill, Kelly, and Grimley. It’ll also be great for squad depth to have lads like Paddy Burns, Niall Rowland, and the Mackins back to full fitness. Boys like Woods and Kieran came in yesterday and kicked on, and there’s others like McQuillen, McConville, McCambridge, and Higgins still to really break through. The year will also stand to men who have just only got going in settled positions on the field - Rafferty, Og Burns, Conor O’Neill, Crealey & Duffy.
The talent of 20 years ago might not quite be there, but there’s still a very strong and healthy mix. There’s also an energy and togetherness and spirit that has taken time to foster, and which could still take them a long way. The unnecessary stuff aside, there's a team there that plays great football with great heart. Football has been boring for a decade or more, it's good for the game to have teams like Armagh bringing a bit of colour and noise to Croke Park again.
Good luck to Galway and Derry the next day out. Would love to see either win Sam.
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Theyve been at it before Donaghy arrived on the ticket.
Im not referring to the gouging because thats a separate thing thats unexplainable.
Open your eyes man. James Morgan and Greg McCabe are card magnets and dont help themselves or the team with their nonsense.
There are a few others who are a shoe-in for cards every game. Armagh are a betting man's dream when it comes to cards.
You are a bullshitter. Morgan has in the past been rash and card prone. Over the last 10 or 12 years Armagh have not been involved a lot of this stuff as you suggest. This year they have been involved in 3 instances which is too much, but this happening the length and breadth of the country at club and county level your allegation that Armagh are some how world leaders at it does not stack.
So we're into personal insults now because you disagree strongly with an opinion.
Classy. Then again i shouldnt be surprised.
Its not personal, you are bullshitting and labelling a whole county and its players as perennial thugs based on zero evidence.
You personally insulted me. Its black n white.
Where did i label a whole county and its players as perennial thugs. Those are your own words not mine. Be careful.
Theres plenty of evidence to suggest that Armagh have several players with issues when it comes to controlling aggression, breaking playing rules, getting themselves carded.
I actually think Armagh folk are a great bunch. Have had many a positive interaction with them on and off the pitch for last 30 years and count them as good friends.
Im actually a fan of the football they play. How could you not be.
Im not sure where all this hate and anger comes from today.
No hate, no anger read my take on yesterday, but suggesting that Armagh were wholly to blame and have been at it for years is just errant nonsense. If you are insulted that I believe that you are bullshitting there is nothing I can do for that, just my opinion of your musings and nothing personal.
I accept your apology, now that youve calmed down a little.
Let me be clear in case i wasnt before. Armagh are not solely to blame for yesterdays melee. It takes 2 to tango. I dont think anyone is suggesting otherwise.
Also im not suggesting that Armagh went out to start a pre-meditated melee at all. In fact i agree with you, no team does that as far as im aware.
However, what i was suggesting that in general the lesser footballer will often engage in nonsense to try gain that little edge over his clearly superior footballing opponent. In some cases many lesser footballers will round on the clearly superior footballer as a group and show of strength etc. Often times when there is a culture of chest beating and machismo in a group of players it will result in fracas, melees, set-tos, skullduggery. Sometimes it manifests itself as a box to the gut, other times it might be wrestling and grappling (which Armagh strangely seem to love)
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Come off it general_lee, are you actually serious here? Must be a WUM
Nah you’re right, Armagh are to blame for Comer (rightly or wrongly) going at James Morgan which was the spark that ignited the melee. They knew what they were at all along ::)
Comer went for Morgan after Morgan had ran through the back of him. That is a fact
Who did what here is almost moot. Who was the third man in?
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As a neutral , (though I’ve no love for Armagh as our closest neighbours and rivals and wanted to see Galway win), I really admire what Armagh brought to the championship this year. Riain O’Neill and Soupy Campbell are both All star material. Galway as always showed flashes of flair . Maybe I’m wrong but I thought that Walsh disappointed overall , he didn’t take the game to Armagh but was feigning injury and attempting to get cards all day. Comer was acting the hard man all day , and Tbf was more likely to be the instigator of the row than Morgan who was already on a yellow. Sean Kelly won’t be too happy with Comer and Walsh , Particularly if he misses out on the Derry game. Walsh was writhing about all day but made several miraculous recoveries. Remarkable to see him still standing at the end to take his penalty with such aplomb 😜. The officials in the Derry game will presumably be wise to Comer and Walsh particularly. Though it’s remarkable how RTE commentators , presenters and pundits weren’t wise to them, given their scrutiny of Tyrone tactics over the years .
Rte’s coverage and bias, is light years behind Sky’s objective professionalism .
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I would agree with a lot of that. I would have preferred Armagh won but I do generally like Galway. Comer was wired in that game and I honestly thought he should have had red. Walsh while wasn't fantastic was subject to some not great treatment by Morgan so I wouldn't have his behaviour down as quite as bad as you would but still expected better from him both behaviour wise and taking the game to armagh wise.
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Its all in the coaching and team culture built up over a number of years. If anyone thinks that McKLeever and McGeeneys 'style' isnt all over that team then they need their heads read.
Monkey see monkey do.
Its premeditated not to ever actually strike. Becasue thats a sending off offence. So lads, no striking whatever you do.
But make sure you grapple, wrestle, grab, twist and hold onto him like your life depends on it and dont ever back down or let go first. Thats a sign of weakness and we cant have that, because after all, we're all big men and we like to flex how big we are.
Whilst there is alot to admire about Armagh's journey and football theyve played, they still get involved too much, indulge in thuggish shite and foul too easily. Their obsession with chest beating macho bull shit and insistence in turning every game into a dick-measuring contest was always gonna bite them at some stage.
Theyve lost this particular dick-measuring contest and its gonna hurt for a while.
I’ve read some shite on here (mostly Tyrone and Derry people, ironically) chastising Armagh for yesterdays handbags. I’m not sure Armagh are coached to do anything specifically in terms of dark arts but the only criticism I’ll accept is that the management clearly haven’t learned anything this year in terms of other teams riling them up.
I’ve asked it before but what exactly do Armagh, or any team for that matter, have to gain by starting a melee? There is literally nothing to be achieved from a premeditated melee. Fair criticism of McGeeney/McKeever would be that their players fall for this shite too much: happened with Donegal, it happened with Tyrone and it happened again yesterday. TK deserves a hefty ban and if the powers that be make an example of him, so be it; moronic behaviour from him and something he shouldn’t have involved himself with.
What has this got to do with yesterday.
The Armagh #2 ran after Comer and barged into him on the way to the tunnel.
Thats how the melee started
No it’s not, Comer went for James Morgan after something between him and Walsh, that’s how it started. Forker then got involved and straight away both teams went into full handbag mode
Melee starter
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I would agree with a lot of that. I would have preferred Armagh won but I do generally like Galway. Comer was wired in that game and I honestly thought he should have had red. Walsh while wasn't fantastic was subject to some not great treatment by Morgan so I wouldn't have his behaviour down as quite as bad as you would but still expected better from him both behaviour wise and taking the game to armagh wise.
On what basis should Comer have seen red?
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Start of extra time a tackle I think he struck to the face... It wasn't major but it was a strike.
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As a neutral , (though I’ve no love for Armagh as our closest neighbours and rivals and wanted to see Galway win), I really admire what Armagh brought to the championship this year. Riain O’Neill and Soupy Campbell are both All star material. Galway as always showed flashes of flair . Maybe I’m wrong but I thought that Walsh disappointed overall , he didn’t take the game to Armagh but was feigning injury and attempting to get cards all day. Comer was acting the hard man all day , and Tbf was more likely to be the instigator of the row than Morgan who was already on a yellow. Sean Kelly won’t be too happy with Comer and Walsh , Particularly if he misses out on the Derry game. Walsh was writhing about all day but made several miraculous recoveries. Remarkable to see him still standing at the end to take his penalty with such aplomb 😜. The officials in the Derry game will presumably be wise to Comer and Walsh particularly. Though it’s remarkable how RTE commentators , presenters and pundits weren’t wise to them, given their scrutiny of Tyrone tactics over the years .
Rte’s coverage and bias, is light years behind Sky’s objective professionalism .
Were you at the game? Would be interesting to view a player cam of Morgan "marking" Walsh off the ball. Clear to see from the stands what was going on off the ball.
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Start of extra time a tackle I think he struck to the face... It wasn't major but it was a strike.
Hmmm will have to watch it back on the tv - didn't notice it at the time live.
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Its all in the coaching and team culture built up over a number of years. If anyone thinks that McKLeever and McGeeneys 'style' isnt all over that team then they need their heads read.
Monkey see monkey do.
Its premeditated not to ever actually strike. Becasue thats a sending off offence. So lads, no striking whatever you do.
But make sure you grapple, wrestle, grab, twist and hold onto him like your life depends on it and dont ever back down or let go first. Thats a sign of weakness and we cant have that, because after all, we're all big men and we like to flex how big we are.
Whilst there is alot to admire about Armagh's journey and football theyve played, they still get involved too much, indulge in thuggish shite and foul too easily. Their obsession with chest beating macho bull shit and insistence in turning every game into a dick-measuring contest was always gonna bite them at some stage.
Theyve lost this particular dick-measuring contest and its gonna hurt for a while.
I’ve read some shite on here (mostly Tyrone and Derry people, ironically) chastising Armagh for yesterdays handbags. I’m not sure Armagh are coached to do anything specifically in terms of dark arts but the only criticism I’ll accept is that the management clearly haven’t learned anything this year in terms of other teams riling them up.
I’ve asked it before but what exactly do Armagh, or any team for that matter, have to gain by starting a melee? There is literally nothing to be achieved from a premeditated melee. Fair criticism of McGeeney/McKeever would be that their players fall for this shite too much: happened with Donegal, it happened with Tyrone and it happened again yesterday. TK deserves a hefty ban and if the powers that be make an example of him, so be it; moronic behaviour from him and something he shouldn’t have involved himself with.
What has this got to do with yesterday.
The Armagh #2 ran after Comer and barged into him on the way to the tunnel.
Thats how the melee started
No it’s not, Comer went for James Morgan after something between him and Walsh, that’s how it started. Forker then got involved and straight away both teams went into full handbag mode
Melee starter
Walsh & Morgan 1&2, Comer no3
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Start of extra time a tackle I think he struck to the face... It wasn't major but it was a strike.
Hmmm will have to watch it back on the tv - didn't notice it at the time live.
Maybe I'm over egging it but I thought he struck. Probably would have been more of it so could have been just me but I did think he hit out.
Honestly to beat Derry I think you would need to keep his aggression in check.
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As a neutral , (though I’ve no love for Armagh as our closest neighbours and rivals and wanted to see Galway win), I really admire what Armagh brought to the championship this year. Riain O’Neill and Soupy Campbell are both All star material. Galway as always showed flashes of flair . Maybe I’m wrong but I thought that Walsh disappointed overall , he didn’t take the game to Armagh but was feigning injury and attempting to get cards all day. Comer was acting the hard man all day , and Tbf was more likely to be the instigator of the row than Morgan who was already on a yellow. Sean Kelly won’t be too happy with Comer and Walsh , Particularly if he misses out on the Derry game. Walsh was writhing about all day but made several miraculous recoveries. Remarkable to see him still standing at the end to take his penalty with such aplomb 😜. The officials in the Derry game will presumably be wise to Comer and Walsh particularly. Though it’s remarkable how RTE commentators , presenters and pundits weren’t wise to them, given their scrutiny of Tyrone tactics over the years .
Rte’s coverage and bias, is light years behind Sky’s objective professionalism .
That’s a very fair post
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There has been some drivel written about the penalties in the past 24 hours, predominantly by middle-aged women on Facebook, unsurprisingly. Armagh were robbed due to having to kick penalties etc. even though Galway also had the operate in the same conditions.
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Start of extra time a tackle I think he struck to the face... It wasn't major but it was a strike.
Hmmm will have to watch it back on the tv - didn't notice it at the time live.
Maybe I'm over egging it but I thought he struck. Probably would have been more of it so could have been just me but I did think he hit out.
Honestly to beat Derry I think you would need to keep his aggression in check.
Derry going to be extremely tough one way or another for sure.
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I would have you as favourites but should be very interesting.
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galway 11/10 Derry evens. Nothing in it.
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https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2022/0626/1306973-joyce-choice-of-penalties-by-the-gaa-is-disgraceful/
Speaking to RTÉ Sport after the game, Joyce had some sympathy for Armagh by the manner in which they exited the 2022 championship.
"It's a horrible way to lose it and that's not the fault of the Armagh players, it's the fault of the GAA and the condensed season," he said.
"My heart goes out to Armagh. Kieran McGeeney and the boys have put in a savage effort; they have been the form team and their supporters brought fantastic colour down here today. The roar when Rian O'Neill levelled the game in normal time was deafening
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Gutted about yesterday but so glad to have seen the best football game this year. Well done galway a fine team and some serious players. Tierney at 11 and McDaid in the middle were immense for you. Thought Molloy had great game as well. I just watched the entire game back again as being there v TV is two very different perspectives. Of our own lads just a huge team effort. And while hard to watch players distraught at the end it shows the pride and passion is there and with wee rub of the green that team will go further. Anyone notice think it was either the 7th or 8th point for galway the pass was blatant throw ball or am i needing the optician again ? Not that it matters now just interesting that commentators never mentioned it. Maybe because it wasnt ?
Gonna be some battle between Derry and Galway
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Taoiseach and Catherine Martin getting stuck into this now. We're only moments away from somebody in the Dail asking for the Army to sent in to steward games.
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Jesus the amount of bile on this thread is unreal. Some folk really need to take a look at themselves if a football match involving teams rather that their own makes them react like that. I’m glad though that Armagh’s defeat has given the Down supporters such a buzz. Methinks, given the demise of their team, that they will be depending on things like this to give them any sort of buzz for a few years yet
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Still feeling drained after that, so can’t imagine what the players must feel like today.
Such an incredible rollercoaster of emotions for Armagh supporters over those two or three hours. In fact, the last four weeks or so have been a rollercoaster, from the doom and gloom in advance of the Tyrone game through to the colour and noise and expectation on Sunday. Such a shame, a disgrace really, that things ended with a penalty shootout. It’s unnatural, anti-climactic, perfunctory. It doesn’t belong in the GAA - I hope the rule makers realise this before any other county is disenfranchised. Striking the ball from the ground is a fundamental skill in soccer, it is not a fundamental skill in Gaelic football. This is why penalty shootouts do not belong in the GAA.
The game in normal time was conventional enough. Armagh started well and then faded. Galway were the better team overall, and had they run out 4 or 5 point winners it would have been merited. They are a very good team that have been motoring well all year. I can see them taking care of Derry, and giving a good account of themselves in an AI final. Need to sort out that problem with high balls in and around their goals, though.
I thought I could see some heavy legs out there on the Armagh side, and it’s maybe no coincidence that some of the older lads - Murnin, Forker, Grugan, - didn’t make it to the end of extra time. Armagh have had a tougher road than Galway over the last month.
Galway were also more clinical, I think the wide count at the end of normal time was something like 8-3. Some of Armagh's shot selection was off at clutch moments - unfortunately this came back to haunt them at the death too. McCabe’s red didn’t help either - Galway hit four in a row after that and looked to have killed the game off. The red was harsh for me. There’s no malice there, it’s just a fractionally mistimed hit. Yellow would’ve done and no one would’ve complained.
Then that mad 8 or 9 minutes. First off, fair play to Coldrick for adding the time. Galway were at the fake head injury stuff all second half to kill time, so 8 minutes was the least that was justified. A stop clock is the solution to this messing. Both goals were scrappy, but they’re the type of goals you get when you want them enough. O’Neill’s free to tie it up was something else, but there was never a doubt he’d nail it.
Extra time is a blur to me. I’ll have to watch back when I have the stomach. I thought Armagh had it at two stages - after the third goal, and after Hall’s point. It was always going to be tricky to hold on against an opponent like Galway, but maybe Armagh could have done one or two things differently and held out. McDaid’s point to tie it up was exceptional, though.
The penalties are a nonsense and you couldn’t hold it against either of the two lads that missed for Armagh. But if this team ever finds itself in the position again then I’d hope lessons can be learnt from yesterday. GAA keepers are not at the same shot stopping standard as top level soccer keepers. Just hit the target with enough power and you usually score in Gaelic football. This is what Galway managed, but a couple of the Armagh penalties looked to try to be too precise, too close to the top corner.
The row was bad. And Armagh more than played their part in it. That’s three in 11 games this year, Armagh can’t keep crying that they’re just being picked on. In fact, in interviews afterwards, McGeeney more or less said that the lads have been encouraged to get on like this. To not take a step back, to get under the skin of the big boys and let them know you mean business. I get that this cocky upstart thing is an energy that the team feeds off, but for me it begins to become counterproductive after a time. In the short term you lose players and you lose focus. Longer term there is a loss of reputation, which kills you slowly as you find refs gunning for you more and more regularly. Armagh need to clean themselves up.
Tiernan Kelly in particular let himself down, and I’m sure he knows that. He should be contrite, take whatever punishment comes his way, and quietly go about working his way back into the team. He still has a fantastic football career ahead of him. It’s difficult to make excuses for something like that, but I suppose he is young and the blood was up in the moment. It looked like one of those things that takes a second to happen, but that you regret for much, much longer. The witch hunt online and in the media is pathetic, though. Hysterical squeals for lifetime bans. A lot of sanctimonious gobshites that just live for whinging about things. Luckily, the storm will move on to a different target by the middle of the week - hopefully TK keeps his head clear of the noise in the meantime.
As an Armagh supporter I’m already looking forward to 2023. The league gave a hint of it, but it’s the last three championship games that has confirmed it for me: we’re back knocking about the top table. Some serious work, and improvement, and momentum has come together over the last 18 months. Good young players have come through, and some stalwarts have elevated themselves to standards I didn’t think they had in them. The continuation of the management isn’t in any doubt, and hopefully Donaghy stays onboard too - the boys seem to feed off his enthusiasm.
I don’t think any players walk away just yet, and there’s maybe two more years in the likes of Grugan, Campbell & Forker. I can see Turbitt starting more regularly, and return for Oisin O’Neill, Kelly, and Grimley. It’ll also be great for squad depth to have lads like Paddy Burns, Niall Rowland, and the Mackins back to full fitness. Boys like Woods and Kieran came in yesterday and kicked on, and there’s others like McQuillen, McConville, McCambridge, and Higgins still to really break through. The year will also stand to men who have just only got going in settled positions on the field - Rafferty, Og Burns, Conor O’Neill, Crealey & Duffy.
The talent of 20 years ago might not quite be there, but there’s still a very strong and healthy mix. There’s also an energy and togetherness and spirit that has taken time to foster, and which could still take them a long way. The unnecessary stuff aside, there's a team there that plays great football with great heart. Football has been boring for a decade or more, it's good for the game to have teams like Armagh bringing a bit of colour and noise to Croke Park again.
Good luck to Galway and Derry the next day out. Would love to see either win Sam.
Great, balanced post.
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Jesus the amount of bile on this thread is unreal. Some folk really need to take a look at themselves if a football match involving teams rather that their own makes them react like that. I’m glad though that Armagh’s defeat has given the Down supporters such a buzz. Methinks, given the demise of their team, that they will be depending on things like this to give them any sort of buzz for a few years yet
I’ll not say too much because for a while there we were relying on Tyrone/Down misfortune for our own buzz. Great to be back at the top table and have everyone talking about us though.
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I would agree with a lot of that. I would have preferred Armagh won but I do generally like Galway. Comer was wired in that game and I honestly thought he should have had red. Walsh while wasn't fantastic was subject to some not great treatment by Morgan so I wouldn't have his behaviour down as quite as bad as you would but still expected better from him both behaviour wise and taking the game to armagh wise.
On what basis should Comer have seen red?
Some of the claptrap here since the match yesterday is incredible. That was a great game, fair play to both sets of players, a phenomenal atmosphere in the stadium which the Armagh support contributed to in a massive way. The melee was the usual handbags with the exception of one complete tr**p who should be fucked out from playing for a year.
Shane Walsh "feigning injury", I'll be kind and assume this person wasn't in CP, how Morgan didn't get a second yellow is the only "remarkable" thing. It's even noted in the IT match report, "they should also have been without James Morgan whose enthusiasm for wrestling Shane Walsh and clattering into him off the ball miraculously failed to draw further punishment than one yellow card.". Presumably this will be disavowed as West Brit propaganda.
I met some absolute gents from Armagh both pre and post match in and around CP, a much fairer appraisal of the match and the controversies was had with them, so to come online and read back through this thread is surprising, either people weren't at the match or if they were, have put some quare slant on what happened out there. I would have preferred a replay for the game but both teams knew that penalties were a possibility.
Galway turned up and once they got over the first 15 minutes gave the performance that was required on a big day. Finnerty, Tierney and McDaid came of age in Galway jerseys yesterday, Tierney had not been in top form in Connacht but came alive in CP. Shane Walsh did not have a good game, he'll know that himself, the great thing is that there is another match to try and play better in only two weeks away.
The Galway collapses are seriously troubling as against Mayo, Roscommon and now Armagh, Galway have been the better team and have contrived to make comfortable victories into something that would take years off you. Gleeson and the kickouts have been flagged as a huge weakness for a long time and it is hard to believe that we got away with those catastrophic errors yesterday. Armagh were gifted 3 goals and still didn't win, the grit and clutch play from McDaid in ET to ensure that they didn't was a sight to behold.
Derry are a formidable team and the league result will have no bearing on the semi final whatsoever. Galway need to show up and play better again the next day again, simple as that.
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Gutted about yesterday but so glad to have seen the best football game this year. Well done galway a fine team and some serious players. Tierney at 11 and McDaid in the middle were immense for you. Thought Molloy had great game as well. I just watched the entire game back again as being there v TV is two very different perspectives. Of our own lads just a huge team effort. And while hard to watch players distraught at the end it shows the pride and passion is there and with wee rub of the green that team will go further. Anyone notice think it was either the 7th or 8th point for galway the pass was blatant throw ball or am i needing the optician again ? Not that it matters now just interesting that commentators never mentioned it. Maybe because it wasnt ?
Gonna be some battle between Derry and Galway
Thought their half back, no. 7 (can't remember his name) did a lot of damage too. Constantly on the ball, probing, getting their attack going. In short a right pain in the arse!
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Was Oisin O'Neill injured this year, or not on the panel?
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https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2022/0627/1307102-orourke-on-brawl-armagh-the-common-denominator/
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Was Oisin O'Neill injured this year, or not on the panel?
Injured unfortunately. He’d be of a similar calibre player to the brother so we’ll be hoping he’s back flying for next year.
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https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2022/0627/1307102-orourke-on-brawl-armagh-the-common-denominator/
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Charlie Tanagan is looking a Garda investigation! Didn’t think he would watch GAA
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https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2022/0627/1307102-orourke-on-brawl-armagh-the-common-denominator/
Hyperbolic hypocritical nonsense from O'Rourke. And then I seen that muppet Flanagan looking to get the Gardai involved. You know it is gone too far when the actual Galway manager is less offended than those media pundits and rival fans preaching from the pulpit.
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I would agree with a lot of that. I would have preferred Armagh won but I do generally like Galway. Comer was wired in that game and I honestly thought he should have had red. Walsh while wasn't fantastic was subject to some not great treatment by Morgan so I wouldn't have his behaviour down as quite as bad as you would but still expected better from him both behaviour wise and taking the game to armagh wise.
On what basis should Comer have seen red?
Shane Walsh "feigning injury", I'll be kind and assume this person wasn't in CP, how Morgan didn't get a second yellow is the only "remarkable" thing. It's even noted in the IT match report, "they should also have been without James Morgan whose enthusiasm for wrestling Shane Walsh and clattering into him off the ball miraculously failed to draw further punishment than one yellow card.". Presumably this will be disavowed as West Brit propaganda.
Shane Walsh made one hell of a recovery down near the Canal End, (I thought he looked in a bad way, possibly shot by a sniper?) but thankfully moments later was up like a rocket and fully recovered as his teammates were in possession and on the attack.
https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2022/0627/1307102-orourke-on-brawl-armagh-the-common-denominator/
Hyperbolic hypocritical nonsense from O'Rourke. And then I seen that muppet Flanagan looking to get the Gardai involved. You know it is gone too far when the actual Galway manager is less offended than those media pundits and rival fans preaching from the pulpit.
West Brit propaganda?
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I love Joe Brolly and Logan to actually be paid to write the Gaa rule book revisions, seeing these lads are involving half the time getting round them. O'Rourke comments wee but ironic saying he played on Gaelic football meanest team ever.
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I would agree with a lot of that. I would have preferred Armagh won but I do generally like Galway. Comer was wired in that game and I honestly thought he should have had red. Walsh while wasn't fantastic was subject to some not great treatment by Morgan so I wouldn't have his behaviour down as quite as bad as you would but still expected better from him both behaviour wise and taking the game to armagh wise.
On what basis should Comer have seen red?
Some of the claptrap here since the match yesterday is incredible. That was a great game, fair play to both sets of players, a phenomenal atmosphere in the stadium which the Armagh support contributed to in a massive way. The melee was the usual handbags with the exception of one complete tr**p who should be fucked out from playing for a year.
Shane Walsh "feigning injury", I'll be kind and assume this person wasn't in CP, how Morgan didn't get a second yellow is the only "remarkable" thing. It's even noted in the IT match report, "they should also have been without James Morgan whose enthusiasm for wrestling Shane Walsh and clattering into him off the ball miraculously failed to draw further punishment than one yellow card.". Presumably this will be disavowed as West Brit propaganda.
I met some absolute gents from Armagh both pre and post match in and around CP, a much fairer appraisal of the match and the controversies was had with them, so to come online and read back through this thread is surprising, either people weren't at the match or if they were, have put some quare slant on what happened out there. I would have preferred a replay for the game but both teams knew that penalties were a possibility.
Galway turned up and once they got over the first 15 minutes gave the performance that was required on a big day. Finnerty, Tierney and McDaid came of age in Galway jerseys yesterday, Tierney had not been in top form in Connacht but came alive in CP. Shane Walsh did not have a good game, he'll know that himself, the great thing is that there is another match to try and play better in only two weeks away.
The Galway collapses are seriously troubling as against Mayo, Roscommon and now Armagh, Galway have been the better team and have contrived to make comfortable victories into something that would take years off you. Gleeson and the kickouts have been flagged as a huge weakness for a long time and it is hard to believe that we got away with those catastrophic errors yesterday. Armagh were gifted 3 goals and still didn't win, the grit and clutch play from McDaid in ET to ensure that they didn't was a sight to behold.
Derry are a formidable team and the league result will have no bearing on the semi final whatsoever. Galway need to show up and play better again the next day again, simple as that.
Good post. Best of luck in a fortnights time
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https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2022/0627/1307102-orourke-on-brawl-armagh-the-common-denominator/
Admittedly I like ORourke but when a meath man talks about other teams thuggery I take it with a pinch of salt
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I would agree with a lot of that. I would have preferred Armagh won but I do generally like Galway. Comer was wired in that game and I honestly thought he should have had red. Walsh while wasn't fantastic was subject to some not great treatment by Morgan so I wouldn't have his behaviour down as quite as bad as you would but still expected better from him both behaviour wise and taking the game to armagh wise.
On what basis should Comer have seen red?
Some of the claptrap here since the match yesterday is incredible. That was a great game, fair play to both sets of players, a phenomenal atmosphere in the stadium which the Armagh support contributed to in a massive way. The melee was the usual handbags with the exception of one complete tr**p who should be fucked out from playing for a year.
Shane Walsh "feigning injury", I'll be kind and assume this person wasn't in CP, how Morgan didn't get a second yellow is the only "remarkable" thing. It's even noted in the IT match report, "