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Title: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: tonto1888 on June 13, 2022, 03:07:13 PM
May as well get it started.
An intriguing draw. Both teams will fancy their chances without being over confident I would say.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: yellowcard on June 13, 2022, 03:19:12 PM
There is no real form guide as these 2 sides haven't played each other much recently. From an Armagh viewpoint it is a real opportunity and I providing they play without any fear again I give them a good chance of getting through the tie. Galway will be thinking the same but I also think they'd have preferred to avoid Armagh in the draw. I'd imagine Forker will get the job of tracking Walsh as he always seems to get the oppositions main forward. Morgan who is having a great season will probably pick up Comer. I think this could be quite an open match as neither side is really suited to playing defensive catenaccio style football. Should be a great weekend of football at HQ.   
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Armamike on June 13, 2022, 03:44:48 PM
Looking forward to the match.  Both sides fairly evenly matched it seems. Probably an open game.  Should be one for the purists and neutrals to enjoy.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: balladmaker on June 13, 2022, 04:13:20 PM
Sunday 26th June, 1:45PM, Croke Park ... early start.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: yellowcard on June 13, 2022, 04:50:56 PM
Sunday 26th June, 1:45PM, Croke Park ... early start.

At least the 2 Ulster teams are playing on separate days so the traffic situation won't be as bad. I would have thought that Armagh v Galway was a more evenly matched game than Kerry v Mayo so I'm a bit surprised that we are the curtain raiser.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: mackers on June 13, 2022, 04:59:35 PM
Armagh have a poor record coming out of the Cusack Stand dressing rooms........
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Cunny Funt on June 13, 2022, 05:28:46 PM
There is no real form guide as these 2 sides haven't played each other much recently. From an Armagh viewpoint it is a real opportunity and I providing they play without any fear again I give them a good chance of getting through the tie. Galway will be thinking the same but I also think they'd have preferred to avoid Armagh in the draw. I'd imagine Forker will get the job of tracking Walsh as he always seems to get the oppositions main forward. Morgan who is having a great season will probably pick up Comer. I think this could be quite an open match as neither side is really suited to playing defensive catenaccio style football. Should be a great weekend of football at HQ.

Might not be suited to them but it's very much the style Galway have used in this years championship.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on June 13, 2022, 06:01:11 PM
While Armagh got the team from the pot they wanted, we would have much preferred Clare or Cork from this morning let's be honest about it. That's no slight against them, the four week break is a big factor for the provincial champions when facing into a team coming off a win two weeks out and either of the Munster teams would have been a much more winnable game. Not to say that Galway would win of course, I've seen enough capitulations including Tipp in 2016 to know nothing can be ruled out. Armagh it is and one thing is for sure, complacency is not a problem on Joyce's desk since this morning's draw given how Mayo and Roscommon have fared since Galway played them, Armagh certainly look to have the better recent body of work going into this match.

From the initial reactions since this morning I'd expect that while it's evens in the bookies currently Armagh will likely move into slight favourites for the match as the next couple of weeks progresses, they seem to be the tip for a lot of folk, I think I even saw the phrase "no chance" associated with Galway on this forum. That won't mean much for either set of players at the end of the day. A far bigger factor will difference in the support levels, the Armagh bandwagon seems to be rolling again and Galway will be outnumbered as usual but maybe to an even greater extent this time around. Would be great to see a few of the fair weather fans come out of the woodwork for this provided they will go to shout on the team.
A big game for the Galway, we have a miserable record in Croke Park and Armagh are the toughest team from the draw today to get over that hump and into a semi-final, I wouldn't be of the view that we have no chance either though once we show up, need to put in a big championship performance above what we've seen to date in Connacht and see where that gets us.

The stakes are very high now, Derry, Clare, Armagh and ourselves all know that this is a golden opportunity to get to an All Ireland final, a heavy favourite will be waiting there in opposition but sure anything can happen on the day. The older Galway players like Walsh, Comer and Conroy will not get a better chance at a ticket to the big dance, the teams who have been there year in and year out are all on the other side of the draw.
Armagh are a formidable team but they haven't been within an asses roar of the final no more than ourselves either, this is an absolutely massive match and whoever gets the win will be in great shape for the semi-final. To quote Ger Lock, "real men wanted now".
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: seafoid on June 13, 2022, 06:38:33 PM
I think it depends on what game each team brings to the match. Galway had work to do after the Connacht Final. How much extra have Armagh got ?
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: bennydorano on June 13, 2022, 07:25:47 PM
Great opportunity for both teams, really is a 50/50 game. Thought we showed great maturity yesterday at 0.9 to 1.2 I thought it was on the verge of slipping away from us but it didn't. Still wouldn't like to see Galway getting an early jump on us tho.

What about the Armagh injuries? 5 potential starters sidelined, 3 longish term. I assume Mackin #2 should be fine, Oisin O'Neill?
Armagh have nearly stumbled into our current configuration from MF forward because of some of our injuries, it's highly unlikely to be changed for Galway but it is a 20 man game these days anyway. Like I would have considered Turbitt a shoe in championship starter and he's not getting much game time, but still scoring well when introduced. Always feel Ross McQuillan has something to offer but he's seeing less still.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: galwayman on June 13, 2022, 09:39:03 PM
Very interesting game in prospect. As AFA said - I think we all wanted Clare or Cork simply because neither are as good as Armagh.
Armagh have momentum built up now which is a big advantage to them.
Galway are capable of winning this but will need to bring their A game to do so.
Looking forward to it
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: seafoid on June 14, 2022, 09:31:55 AM
Psychology might play a role. Armagh are a momentum team but if they are shut down how will they respond ? How good is Geezer at in-match decision making ?
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: illdecide on June 14, 2022, 09:35:46 AM
It really is a 50/50 game no matter what anyone else says. Galway and Armagh are so evenly matched and it will be difficult to predict the winners. Armagh have a bit of momentum which will help but Galway are a settled team and have big players in the right positions. Should be a good game with a big score line by both teams, there are really good pairings to select of who will pick up who. Armagh have a few injuries as someone stated but for me all that does is create an opportunity for someone else. I was at the last game in 2001 where Galway broke our hearts with a 1pt win, think it was like 10 - 09 or something like that. I know it was low scoring game in the qualifiers that Galway went on to win the All Ireland.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: seafoid on June 14, 2022, 01:38:46 PM
It really is a 50/50 game no matter what anyone else says. Galway and Armagh are so evenly matched and it will be difficult to predict the winners. Armagh have a bit of momentum which will help but Galway are a settled team and have big players in the right positions. Should be a good game with a big score line by both teams, there are really good pairings to select of who will pick up who. Armagh have a few injuries as someone stated but for me all that does is create an opportunity for someone else. I was at the last game in 2001 where Galway broke our hearts with a 1pt win, think it was like 10 - 09 or something like that. I know it was low scoring game in the qualifiers that Galway went on to win the All Ireland.
Armagh were one of the best teams Galway played that year, as the following year showed
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Orior on June 14, 2022, 04:27:57 PM
It may well end up being determined by the quality of the substitutions.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Feckitt on June 14, 2022, 04:53:23 PM
Does anyone know how ticketmaster operate this?
Should I take the shitty tickets that are on offer now. Or are more sections still to be opened up?
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: general_lee on June 14, 2022, 04:57:08 PM
Does anyone know how ticketmaster operate this?
Should I take the shitty tickets that are on offer now. Or are more sections still to be opened up?
Good question, I tried buying this morning and kept getting crap seats in Davin or corners of Hogan/CusackÖ herself went on 15 mins later and got slap bang in the middle of the Hogan.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: anportmorforjfc on June 14, 2022, 05:10:16 PM
Does anyone know how ticketmaster operate this?
Should I take the shitty tickets that are on offer now. Or are more sections still to be opened up?
Good question, I tried buying this morning and kept getting crap seats in Davin or corners of Hogan/CusackÖ herself went on 15 mins later and got slap bang in the middle of the Hogan.

Same happened to me although I got upper hogan, middle of the field.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Feckitt on June 14, 2022, 05:14:03 PM
My suspicion is that there are still better sections still to be released  but I don't really know
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Armagh18 on June 14, 2022, 05:37:50 PM
It may well end up being determined by the quality of the substitutions.
Weíre fairly strong in that department even with current injuries and hopefully we get a couple back.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Orior on June 14, 2022, 06:42:23 PM
I've tickets for up in the rafters. But I'm happy with that, as I don't particularly want to sit with the great unwashed, proletariate and riff-raff thank you very much :-)
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: armaghniac on June 14, 2022, 06:46:52 PM
Like on the Airbus 380, one should be seated on the upper deck.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: SouthDublinBro on June 14, 2022, 06:53:31 PM
Derry look to be the business, a proper team. Not buying that Armagh are the real deal. They seem more of a rabble with Rian O'Neill as the one stand out who would start for any county.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: general_lee on June 14, 2022, 07:13:30 PM
Does anyone know how ticketmaster operate this?
Should I take the shitty tickets that are on offer now. Or are more sections still to be opened up?
Good question, I tried buying this morning and kept getting crap seats in Davin or corners of Hogan/CusackÖ herself went on 15 mins later and got slap bang in the middle of the Hogan.

Same happened to me although I got upper hogan, middle of the field.
Weíll be close by, meant to say upper tier (which I donít mind at all)
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Derryman forever on June 14, 2022, 07:34:55 PM
Like on the Airbus 380, one should be seated on the upper deck.


For safety reasons one should always sit at the back of an aeroplane.
Has an aeroplane ever reversed into a mountain?
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Cunny Funt on June 14, 2022, 08:22:41 PM
An interesting point by ex Sligo footballer Neil Ewing

Quote
If this years championship was knockout like 2020 and 2021 the perception would be that Donegal are a better team than Armagh and serious questions on where Armagh are going. After Sunday the reverse is the perception. So, which is true? Or, do people read too much into one off games?
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: naka on June 14, 2022, 09:05:13 PM
Derry look to be the business, a proper team. Not buying that Armagh are the real deal. They seem more of a rabble with Rian O'Neill as the one stand out who would start for any county.
Totally agree
Armagh to be beaten out the gate
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Farrandeelin on June 14, 2022, 09:36:00 PM
I think Armagh are in a great place and could reach the final.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 14, 2022, 09:39:47 PM
Derry look to be the business, a proper team. Not buying that Armagh are the real deal. They seem more of a rabble with Rian O'Neill as the one stand out who would start for any county.

Yes this game is Galway's to lose.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Armagh18 on June 14, 2022, 10:16:44 PM
Derry look to be the business, a proper team. Not buying that Armagh are the real deal. They seem more of a rabble with Rian O'Neill as the one stand out who would start for any county.
I agree. No one else any use.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Orior on June 14, 2022, 10:44:44 PM
Like on the Airbus 380, one should be seated on the upper deck.


For safety reasons one should always sit at the back of an aeroplane.
Has an aeroplane ever reversed into a mountain?

Q. How do you know that you're on a plane full of Derry men?
A. When the engines are switched off you can still hear the whining :-)
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Armamike on June 14, 2022, 11:31:26 PM
Derry look to be the business, a proper team. Not buying that Armagh are the real deal. They seem more of a rabble with Rian O'Neill as the one stand out who would start for any county.

You're probably right as usual.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: rrhf on June 15, 2022, 08:00:06 AM
Wheres yer man Armagh4samagain these days.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: illdecide on June 17, 2022, 01:21:48 PM
What's the story regarding injuries...Who is injured for what team?. I know Armagh have a few injuries (long term) how's Galway's bill of health?.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: seafoid on June 17, 2022, 08:05:21 PM
I'll just leave this here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FhlNKcyNCI
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: general_lee on June 18, 2022, 10:26:06 AM
Either team could take this. Armagh answered a lot of critics in their last two matches and if they continue with that form theyíll be hard to stop. While Galway are well rested, I would question whether that is much of an advantage. Armagh have been training like demons all year so youíd expect they bring that same intensity to Croke Park. I see Jamie Clarke is back on home soil, any chance of a late call up?!
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: keeperlit on June 18, 2022, 01:01:20 PM
Either team could take this. Armagh answered a lot of critics in their last two matches and if they continue with that form theyíll be hard to stop. While Galway are well rested, I would question whether that is much of an advantage. Armagh have been training like demons all year so youíd expect they bring that same intensity to Croke Park. I see Jamie Clarke is back on home soil, any chance of a late call up?!

Only if mcgeeney wants to hit the self destruct button.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: tonto1888 on June 18, 2022, 03:20:04 PM
Either team could take this. Armagh answered a lot of critics in their last two matches and if they continue with that form theyíll be hard to stop. While Galway are well rested, I would question whether that is much of an advantage. Armagh have been training like demons all year so youíd expect they bring that same intensity to Croke Park. I see Jamie Clarke is back on home soil, any chance of a late call up?!

His time has gone I would say
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: balladmaker on June 18, 2022, 05:55:41 PM
Either team could take this. Armagh answered a lot of critics in their last two matches and if they continue with that form theyíll be hard to stop. While Galway are well rested, I would question whether that is much of an advantage. Armagh have been training like demons all year so youíd expect they bring that same intensity to Croke Park. I see Jamie Clarke is back on home soil, any chance of a late call up?!

No, it's not as if Armagh are short on forward talent.  The benefit, nor the need, does not outweigh the disruption it could potentially cause to the team ... it ain't broken at the minute so leave well enough alone.

I see David Coldrick appointed as ref, hopefully he will let it flow just as he did in Armagh v Tyrone game.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Armagh18 on June 18, 2022, 10:20:03 PM
Iíd say the door is open for Clarke for next year-but not at this stage of the year. Not sure if he would suit our system as he doesnít work as hard as Rian, Nugent, Duffy etc.

We all know his quality though and I for one would like to see him back.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Blowitupref on June 18, 2022, 10:22:41 PM
Iíd say the door is open for Clarke for next year-but not at this stage of the year. Not sure if he would suit our system as he doesnít work as hard as Rian, Nugent, Duffy etc.

We all know his quality though and I for one would like to see him back.

Must be around 33 now? I'd say his county days are done.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Oraisteach on June 19, 2022, 12:35:41 AM
Agree wholeheartedly with balladmaker. His inclusion would likely cause more disruption than benefit. Jamieís had loads to chances to perform for the county, but he always seems to have different priorities. The team is firing on all cylinders now. Donít mess with it.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on June 19, 2022, 08:58:48 AM
Would ye quit with the whole Jamie thing! The lad hasnít played club football never mind county football for a few years, Iíd say wouldnít have been keeping himself in any major condition (he is just not that soldier!). The lad is playing a bit of club football, not ripping it up yet, he wonít play county again.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: balladmaker on June 19, 2022, 06:33:52 PM
Looks like it's a full house for next Sunday's double header. I'd expect a large travelling support from both Armagh and Mayo ... what is Galway's representation likely to be?
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Farrandeelin on June 19, 2022, 10:11:59 PM
Looks like it's a full house for next Sunday's double header. I'd expect a large travelling support from both Armagh and Mayo ... what is Galway's representation likely to be?

Not great going by previous form.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: illdecide on June 20, 2022, 09:10:08 AM
Looks like it's a full house for next Sunday's double header. I'd expect a large travelling support from both Armagh and Mayo ... what is Galway's representation likely to be?

Yeah read that last night...Bar Kerry the other three teams involved would bring a decent crowd with them and throw in the neutrals/season ticket holders etc. So glad it's full too as Croke can be really poor atmosphere when half empty/full. Great buzz around Armagh atm for the game...my biggest concern is a lot of the folk have Armagh in a final before a quarter final ball has been kicked and I for one have followed Armagh and been around football long enough to know it'll bite you in the ass. As long as the players don't believe this hype and concentrate on Galway which i'm sure KMcG will have them focusing solely on...
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: APM on June 20, 2022, 09:24:46 AM
Would ye quit with the whole Jamie thing! The lad hasnít played club football never mind county football for a few years, Iíd say wouldnít have been keeping himself in any major condition (he is just not that soldier!). The lad is playing a bit of club football, not ripping it up yet, he wonít play county again.

Well, that's that nipped in the bud.  Can't believe someone brought it up in the first place.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: balladmaker on June 20, 2022, 10:13:57 AM
Looks like it's a full house for next Sunday's double header. I'd expect a large travelling support from both Armagh and Mayo ... what is Galway's representation likely to be?

Yeah read that last night...Bar Kerry the other three teams involved would bring a decent crowd with them and throw in the neutrals/season ticket holders etc. So glad it's full too as Croke can be really poor atmosphere when half empty/full. Great buzz around Armagh atm for the game...my biggest concern is a lot of the folk have Armagh in a final before a quarter final ball has been kicked and I for one have followed Armagh and been around football long enough to know it'll bite you in the ass. As long as the players don't believe this hype and concentrate on Galway which i'm sure KMcG will have them focusing solely on...

I'd say management will have them well grounded.  It's all about the next performance, just go for it, empty the tank and see where it ends up. 

Galway/Derry equally dreaming of an All Ireland appearance I'd say.  I expect Clare to give Derry a game on Saturday as well.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Armagh18 on June 20, 2022, 10:18:33 AM
Looks like it's a full house for next Sunday's double header. I'd expect a large travelling support from both Armagh and Mayo ... what is Galway's representation likely to be?

Yeah read that last night...Bar Kerry the other three teams involved would bring a decent crowd with them and throw in the neutrals/season ticket holders etc. So glad it's full too as Croke can be really poor atmosphere when half empty/full. Great buzz around Armagh atm for the game...my biggest concern is a lot of the folk have Armagh in a final before a quarter final ball has been kicked and I for one have followed Armagh and been around football long enough to know it'll bite you in the ass. As long as the players don't believe this hype and concentrate on Galway which i'm sure KMcG will have them focusing solely on...

I'd say management will have them well grounded.  It's all about the next performance, just go for it, empty the tank and see where it ends up. 

Galway/Derry equally dreaming of an All Ireland appearance I'd say.  I expect Clare to give Derry a game on Saturday as well.
Saturday games on sky only?
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: seafoid on June 20, 2022, 10:33:31 AM
Looks like it's a full house for next Sunday's double header. I'd expect a large travelling support from both Armagh and Mayo ... what is Galway's representation likely to be?
Galway followers wouldn't get that excited about a quarter final. I remember 1995 after we won Connacht after a sizeable gap, and the crowd in CP for the semi vs Tyrone was poor enough. I think it comes down to how good people feel the team is. It's a bit like US Justice Potter Stewart's 1964 test to identify hard core pornography "I know it when I see it".


However if we bate Armagh and then Derry , the perception would obviously change.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: yellowcard on June 20, 2022, 10:52:33 AM
Still some Hill tickets left but the rest of the ground has sold out on Ticketmaster. I'm very surprised as I thought there would be 50-60k but the finance & marketing lads in the GAA will be happy anyway. It could be the first CP full house in almost 3 years. 
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Armagh18 on June 20, 2022, 10:53:00 AM
Looks like it's a full house for next Sunday's double header. I'd expect a large travelling support from both Armagh and Mayo ... what is Galway's representation likely to be?
Galway followers wouldn't get that excited about a quarter final. I remember 1995 after we won Connacht after a sizeable gap, and the crowd in CP for the semi vs Tyrone was poor enough. I think it comes down to how good people feel the team is. It's a bit like US Justice Potter Stewart's 1964 test to identify hard core pornography "I know it when I see it".


However if we bate Armagh and then Derry , the perception would obviously change.
Surely Galway people feel youís are well capable of beating ourselves and Derry/Clare if everything falls in to place? All 4 teams on our side of the draw will probably never get a better chance at making a final.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: mouview on June 20, 2022, 11:00:46 AM
Still some Hill tickets left but the rest of the ground has sold out on Ticketmaster. I'm very surprised as I thought there would be 50-60k but the finance & marketing lads in the GAA will be happy anyway. It could be the first CP full house in almost 3 years.

There should be plenty of tickets yet coming available. No way will this sell out, a-la an AI final.

Hard to know with Galway fans, as Seafoid refers to. With both Senior teams in CP within a week, it may 'split the vote'. However, the general feeling is that this Galway team is (finally) a bit better and balanced than it has been for a good number of years, thus the support should be on the larger side of things.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Armagh18 on June 20, 2022, 11:07:43 AM
Still some Hill tickets left but the rest of the ground has sold out on Ticketmaster. I'm very surprised as I thought there would be 50-60k but the finance & marketing lads in the GAA will be happy anyway. It could be the first CP full house in almost 3 years.

There should be plenty of tickets yet coming available. No way will this sell out, a-la an AI final.

Hard to know with Galway fans, as Seafoid refers to. With both Senior teams in CP within a week, it may 'split the vote'. However, the general feeling is that this Galway team is (finally) a bit better and balanced than it has been for a good number of years, thus the support should be on the larger side of things.
Itíll be close to a sell out though? Probably the best attended quarter final in long time.

Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: yellowcard on June 20, 2022, 11:08:05 AM
Still some Hill tickets left but the rest of the ground has sold out on Ticketmaster. I'm very surprised as I thought there would be 50-60k but the finance & marketing lads in the GAA will be happy anyway. It could be the first CP full house in almost 3 years.

There should be plenty of tickets yet coming available. No way will this sell out, a-la an AI final.

Hard to know with Galway fans, as Seafoid refers to. With both Senior teams in CP within a week, it may 'split the vote'. However, the general feeling is that this Galway team is (finally) a bit better and balanced than it has been for a good number of years, thus the support should be on the larger side of things.

Currently if you want a seated ticket you can't buy them though. So where or why would they become available between now and matchday? If they just wanted to create the illusion of a sell out in advance in order to trigger demand, then you would think that there would at least be one or two sections with seated tickets available to purchase.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: mouview on June 20, 2022, 11:18:04 AM
Still some Hill tickets left but the rest of the ground has sold out on Ticketmaster. I'm very surprised as I thought there would be 50-60k but the finance & marketing lads in the GAA will be happy anyway. It could be the first CP full house in almost 3 years.

There should be plenty of tickets yet coming available. No way will this sell out, a-la an AI final.

Hard to know with Galway fans, as Seafoid refers to. With both Senior teams in CP within a week, it may 'split the vote'. However, the general feeling is that this Galway team is (finally) a bit better and balanced than it has been for a good number of years, thus the support should be on the larger side of things.

Currently if you want a seated ticket you can't buy them though. So where or why would they become available between now and matchday? If they just wanted to create the illusion of a sell out in advance in order to trigger demand, then you would think that there would at least be one or two sections with seated tickets available to purchase.

Standard Ticketmaster (nightclub) tactic of holding back sales to create pent-up demand. Same as last Saturday's hurling quarter-finals, which backfired on them.

At a guess I'd say Galway bring an absolute max of 15k, Kerry struggle to 10K, Mayo < 20K, Armagh 22K tops?
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: yellowcard on June 20, 2022, 11:25:11 AM
Still some Hill tickets left but the rest of the ground has sold out on Ticketmaster. I'm very surprised as I thought there would be 50-60k but the finance & marketing lads in the GAA will be happy anyway. It could be the first CP full house in almost 3 years.

There should be plenty of tickets yet coming available. No way will this sell out, a-la an AI final.

Hard to know with Galway fans, as Seafoid refers to. With both Senior teams in CP within a week, it may 'split the vote'. However, the general feeling is that this Galway team is (finally) a bit better and balanced than it has been for a good number of years, thus the support should be on the larger side of things.

Currently if you want a seated ticket you can't buy them though. So where or why would they become available between now and matchday? If they just wanted to create the illusion of a sell out in advance in order to trigger demand, then you would think that there would at least be one or two sections with seated tickets available to purchase.

Standard Ticketmaster (nightclub) tactic of holding back sales to create pent-up demand. Same as last Saturday's hurling quarter-finals, which backfired on them.

At a guess I'd say Galway bring an absolute max of 15k, Kerry struggle to 10K, Mayo < 20K, Armagh 22K tops?

You could well be right. Maybe they are just hoping that some people who would otherwise have bought seated tickets will now buy Hill 16 tickets before reopening some sections of the stands closer to Sundays match.   
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on June 20, 2022, 11:26:42 AM
Not sure of the current ticketing situation, did clubs get any at all that would be returns for later this week? I was under the impression that they didn't and all sales were via Ticketmaster, if they are holding back the good tickets or trying to fake demand the GAA need to step in and sort that out, ridiculous stuff.
 
Wouldn't be too worried about the hurlers impacting Galway attendance, no one from Galway was in Thurles last Saturday by all accounts, can't see too many casual fans travelling up to see a team in really mediocre form to play Limerick.
Galway will have a reasonable crowd at this, there was decent support (by usual Galway football standard anyway) at the Mayo match and the Connacht final, obviously nothing compared to Armagh who sound like they will have a huge crowd.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Armagh18 on June 20, 2022, 11:39:44 AM
Not sure of the current ticketing situation, did clubs get any at all that would be returns for later this week? I was under the impression that they didn't and all sales were via Ticketmaster, if they are holding back the good tickets or trying to fake demand the GAA need to step in and sort that out, ridiculous stuff.
 
Wouldn't be too worried about the hurlers impacting Galway attendance, no one from Galway was in Thurles last Saturday by all accounts, can't see too many casual fans travelling up to see a team in really mediocre form to play Limerick.
Galway will have a reasonable crowd at this, there was decent support (by usual Galway football standard anyway) at the Mayo match and the Connacht final, obviously nothing compared to Armagh who sound like they will have a huge crowd.
Wonít be a cow milked or cube of diesel washed all next week!
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on June 20, 2022, 11:47:00 AM
I saw someone on the Orchard Fans forum complaining already about the price of hotels the night of the All Ireland final, ye will be spending a lot of money in Dublin over the next month.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Armagh18 on June 20, 2022, 12:08:08 PM
I saw someone on the Orchard Fans forum complaining already about the price of hotels the night of the All Ireland final, ye will be spending a lot of money in Dublin over the next month.
Yeah Iíve tickets for Garth Brooks going every night! ;) Cute hoorism has started!
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Redhand Santa on June 20, 2022, 12:30:09 PM
Still some Hill tickets left but the rest of the ground has sold out on Ticketmaster. I'm very surprised as I thought there would be 50-60k but the finance & marketing lads in the GAA will be happy anyway. It could be the first CP full house in almost 3 years.

There should be plenty of tickets yet coming available. No way will this sell out, a-la an AI final.

Hard to know with Galway fans, as Seafoid refers to. With both Senior teams in CP within a week, it may 'split the vote'. However, the general feeling is that this Galway team is (finally) a bit better and balanced than it has been for a good number of years, thus the support should be on the larger side of things.

Currently if you want a seated ticket you can't buy them though. So where or why would they become available between now and matchday? If they just wanted to create the illusion of a sell out in advance in order to trigger demand, then you would think that there would at least be one or two sections with seated tickets available to purchase.

Standard Ticketmaster (nightclub) tactic of holding back sales to create pent-up demand. Same as last Saturday's hurling quarter-finals, which backfired on them.

At a guess I'd say Galway bring an absolute max of 15k, Kerry struggle to 10K, Mayo < 20K, Armagh 22K tops?

Ticketmaster don't hold back the tickets. They don't open sections of the ground if demand isn't there. For these quarter finals they started with the lower decks and when the demand was there all of the upper deck was opened.

What happened with the hurling was only 17,000 tickets or something were put on ticketmaster, the rest left to be distributed between the clubs. These didn't all sell and became available later in the week on ticketmaster.

For the football only something like 1,500 per county was held back for sponsors/officials etc and the majority has gone on line (season ticket holders also had option to buy). There could still be a small element of the one's held back for individual counties coming back but the numbers shouldn't be huge as the decision was taken to sell the vast majority online. Also I don't think they have sold any for the Nally Terrace yet which would hold 3-4000. There should easily be 70-75,000 at the game.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: maddog on June 20, 2022, 12:32:24 PM
I saw someone on the Orchard Fans forum complaining already about the price of hotels the night of the All Ireland final, ye will be spending a lot of money in Dublin over the next month.

Just booked flights for the day of the final. Regardless of who is in it so thanks for jogging the memory. £9.99 per flight is a steal.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: seafoid on June 20, 2022, 12:33:59 PM
Looks like it's a full house for next Sunday's double header. I'd expect a large travelling support from both Armagh and Mayo ... what is Galway's representation likely to be?
Galway followers wouldn't get that excited about a quarter final. I remember 1995 after we won Connacht after a sizeable gap, and the crowd in CP for the semi vs Tyrone was poor enough. I think it comes down to how good people feel the team is. It's a bit like US Justice Potter Stewart's 1964 test to identify hard core pornography "I know it when I see it".


However if we bate Armagh and then Derry , the perception would obviously change.
Surely Galway people feel youís are well capable of beating ourselves and Derry/Clare if everything falls in to place? All 4 teams on our side of the draw will probably never get a better chance at making a final.
Surely Armagh and Derry are the future. Donegal and Monaghan would seem to be due a period of introspection.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T12sepCTJLU
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: galwayman on June 20, 2022, 12:38:12 PM
I saw someone on the Orchard Fans forum complaining already about the price of hotels the night of the All Ireland final, ye will be spending a lot of money in Dublin over the next month.
Anyone seen the price of hotels in Dublin for this Saturday night? Jaysus. Planning to go to the minor game on Saturday as well but looks like will have to drive up and down both Saturday and Sunday now. Accommodation very expensive.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: tiempo on June 20, 2022, 12:52:17 PM
I saw someone on the Orchard Fans forum complaining already about the price of hotels the night of the All Ireland final, ye will be spending a lot of money in Dublin over the next month.
Anyone seen the price of hotels in Dublin for this Saturday night? Jaysus. Planning to go to the minor game on Saturday as well but looks like will have to drive up and down both Saturday and Sunday now. Accommodation very expensive.

A complete f**king shambles, so much so I'm getting the first flight into Dublin on the day, last flight out, and spending the Monday on wine and cheese in my adopted parish, wouldn't give them crooks the payday, pure robbing bastards
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: marty34 on June 20, 2022, 12:59:10 PM
I saw someone on the Orchard Fans forum complaining already about the price of hotels the night of the All Ireland final, ye will be spending a lot of money in Dublin over the next month.
Anyone seen the price of hotels in Dublin for this Saturday night? Jaysus. Planning to go to the minor game on Saturday as well but looks like will have to drive up and down both Saturday and Sunday now. Accommodation very expensive.

Its a farce.

Next time them hospitality reps come on the tv complaining about this and that, they can go to f#$k.

Complete rip off.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: yellowcard on June 20, 2022, 01:02:22 PM
I saw someone on the Orchard Fans forum complaining already about the price of hotels the night of the All Ireland final, ye will be spending a lot of money in Dublin over the next month.

Just booked flights for the day of the final. Regardless of who is in it so thanks for jogging the memory. £9.99 per flight is a steal.

This always amazes me. Flying at the same cost as a gallon of diesel when it would barely even take you as far as the Drogheda toll if driving.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: yellowcard on June 20, 2022, 01:07:24 PM
I saw someone on the Orchard Fans forum complaining already about the price of hotels the night of the All Ireland final, ye will be spending a lot of money in Dublin over the next month.

Irrespective of who gets there, I doubt if too many people will be staying up at those prices. Ridiculous stuff. I get the fact that hospitality had a tough few years and that there are a lot of Ukrainians staying in hotel accomodation but some of those prices are still scandalous. Hotels are price gouging just because they can.   
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: balladmaker on June 20, 2022, 01:08:40 PM
I saw someone on the Orchard Fans forum complaining already about the price of hotels the night of the All Ireland final, ye will be spending a lot of money in Dublin over the next month.
Anyone seen the price of hotels in Dublin for this Saturday night? Jaysus. Planning to go to the minor game on Saturday as well but looks like will have to drive up and down both Saturday and Sunday now. Accommodation very expensive.

Its a farce.

Next time them hospitality reps come on the tv complaining about this and that, they can go to f#$k.

Complete rip off.

500 quid for a standard hotel room, breakfast extra ... WTF .. someone must be paying it that they can get away with it.  To whoever is paying it, catch a grip!
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: tiempo on June 20, 2022, 01:15:50 PM
They've been at it for years in the off licenses and pubs, milking visiting fans in some cases for the 5-6 hours they're in town, seen a local Dub refuse to buy a pint as the day before it had been x price and the day of the game up 40%

This is another reason games need to be decentralised as often as possible, ordinary people are being priced out, its the antithesis of the GAA, I know the GAA can do very little about it but lets be honest, Dublin gets way more than its fair share
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: trailer on June 20, 2022, 01:23:32 PM
Us Tyrone ones know this all to well. With all our success and trips to HQ it can add up. I can understand how it can be a huge shock for those Armagh fans who last went to Dublin with punts.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: clarshack on June 20, 2022, 01:33:01 PM
I saw someone on the Orchard Fans forum complaining already about the price of hotels the night of the All Ireland final, ye will be spending a lot of money in Dublin over the next month.
Anyone seen the price of hotels in Dublin for this Saturday night? Jaysus. Planning to go to the minor game on Saturday as well but looks like will have to drive up and down both Saturday and Sunday now. Accommodation very expensive.

Its a farce.

Next time them hospitality reps come on the tv complaining about this and that, they can go to f#$k.

Complete rip off.

500 quid for a standard hotel room, breakfast extra ... WTF .. someone must be paying it that they can get away with it.  To whoever is paying it, catch a grip!

A big problem is that hotels like the City West are out of bounds for the next 2 years as they are accommodating refugees, which means whatever rooms are available in Dublin are ridiculously over priced.

I've spent plenty in Dublin myself over the years and with Tyrone having 4 All-Irelands in the bag during that time it's actually not too bad having a summer off from Dublin once in a while!
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: tyrone08 on June 20, 2022, 01:34:25 PM
I saw someone on the Orchard Fans forum complaining already about the price of hotels the night of the All Ireland final, ye will be spending a lot of money in Dublin over the next month.
Anyone seen the price of hotels in Dublin for this Saturday night? Jaysus. Planning to go to the minor game on Saturday as well but looks like will have to drive up and down both Saturday and Sunday now. Accommodation very expensive.

Its a farce.

Next time them hospitality reps come on the tv complaining about this and that, they can go to f#$k.

Complete rip off.

500 quid for a standard hotel room, breakfast extra ... WTF .. someone must be paying it that they can get away with it.  To whoever is paying it, catch a grip!

I have no idea how people are paying it. Belfast is the same. 250 quid for a single room on a fri night with no breakfast. Place is packed so there must be plenty of people about with a lot of spare cash.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: balladmaker on June 20, 2022, 01:38:52 PM
I saw someone on the Orchard Fans forum complaining already about the price of hotels the night of the All Ireland final, ye will be spending a lot of money in Dublin over the next month.
Anyone seen the price of hotels in Dublin for this Saturday night? Jaysus. Planning to go to the minor game on Saturday as well but looks like will have to drive up and down both Saturday and Sunday now. Accommodation very expensive.

Its a farce.

Next time them hospitality reps come on the tv complaining about this and that, they can go to f#$k.

Complete rip off.

500 quid for a standard hotel room, breakfast extra ... WTF .. someone must be paying it that they can get away with it.  To whoever is paying it, catch a grip!

I have no idea how people are paying it. Belfast is the same. 250 quid for a single room on a fri night with no breakfast. Place is packed so there must be plenty of people about with a lot of spare cash.

Insane .. you'd almost think we're in a bubble that's about to burst  ::). Translink doing well out of it this weekend as well, that's 3 or 4 trains at this stage.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: yellowcard on June 20, 2022, 01:39:40 PM
I saw someone on the Orchard Fans forum complaining already about the price of hotels the night of the All Ireland final, ye will be spending a lot of money in Dublin over the next month.
Anyone seen the price of hotels in Dublin for this Saturday night? Jaysus. Planning to go to the minor game on Saturday as well but looks like will have to drive up and down both Saturday and Sunday now. Accommodation very expensive.

Its a farce.

Next time them hospitality reps come on the tv complaining about this and that, they can go to f#$k.

Complete rip off.

500 quid for a standard hotel room, breakfast extra ... WTF .. someone must be paying it that they can get away with it.  To whoever is paying it, catch a grip!

I have no idea how people are paying it. Belfast is the same. 250 quid for a single room on a fri night with no breakfast. Place is packed so there must be plenty of people about with a lot of spare cash.

Belfast has turned into a mini Dublin since Covid began in terms of prices for hotel rooms, food and drinks. 

Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: tyrone08 on June 20, 2022, 01:50:21 PM
I saw someone on the Orchard Fans forum complaining already about the price of hotels the night of the All Ireland final, ye will be spending a lot of money in Dublin over the next month.
Anyone seen the price of hotels in Dublin for this Saturday night? Jaysus. Planning to go to the minor game on Saturday as well but looks like will have to drive up and down both Saturday and Sunday now. Accommodation very expensive.

Its a farce.

Next time them hospitality reps come on the tv complaining about this and that, they can go to f#$k.

Complete rip off.

500 quid for a standard hotel room, breakfast extra ... WTF .. someone must be paying it that they can get away with it.  To whoever is paying it, catch a grip!

I have no idea how people are paying it. Belfast is the same. 250 quid for a single room on a fri night with no breakfast. Place is packed so there must be plenty of people about with a lot of spare cash.

Belfast has turned into a mini Dublin since Covid began in terms of prices for hotel rooms, food and drinks.

Agreed. Went out in belfast a few weeks ago for a few drinks. Charged £6.50 for a pint of guinness and an dilute orange. £5.50 for the pint and £1 for a dash or orange cordial. Ffs I can buy the entire bottle for £1.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Maroon Manc on June 20, 2022, 02:15:10 PM
I'm still scared from the performance against Tipp in 2016, about as disappointing as I've ever been leaving Croke Park given the expectation prior to the match.

I'd imagine Kieran Molloy will be given the job of man marking Rhian O'Neill although I'll be more then concerned when he ventures into the full forward line, that Galway backline lacks a bit of height but don't think there's a backline amongst all the sides left which doesn't have that issue. Armagh might have the same issue and I can see Patrick Kelly spending a bit of time in the full forward line trying to catch them out.

Who knows what Galway will turn up, still have a good few doubts about this team unfortunately; Going to have to up the ante defensively from the Roscommon game.

I'm sure Galway have done plenty of work on Rafferty's kickout, both keepers have a lot of work to do in that department to match the standard of the top keepers. Rafferty doesn't like kicking to his left, can't recall him going to that side too many times  in the last 2 games. The likelihood is we'll see more contests from the kickouts then any other game this weekend.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: galwayman on June 20, 2022, 02:36:28 PM
I'm still scared from the performance against Tipp in 2016, about as disappointing as I've ever been leaving Croke Park given the expectation prior to the match.

I'd imagine Kieran Molloy will be given the job of man marking Rhian O'Neill although I'll be more then concerned when he ventures into the full forward line, that Galway backline lacks a bit of height but don't think there's a backline amongst all the sides left which doesn't have that issue. Armagh might have the same issue and I can see Patrick Kelly spending a bit of time in the full forward line trying to catch them out.

Who knows what Galway will turn up, still have a good few doubts about this team unfortunately; Going to have to up the ante defensively from the Roscommon game.

I'm sure Galway have done plenty of work on Rafferty's kickout, both keepers have a lot of work to do in that department to match the standard of the top keepers. Rafferty doesn't like kicking to his left, can't recall him going to that side too many times  in the last 2 games. The likelihood is we'll see more contests from the kickouts then any other game this weekend.
Molloy isn't comfortable in the fullback line at all. Don't think we can afford to have him on O'Neill when he is inside.
The fact that Armagh favour kicking the ball early is made for Croker. This worries me.
I'm the same as yourself - leaving Croker in 2016 after that Tipp game was just so depressing and disappointing.
Armagh are a completely different kettle of fish though to be fair.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: maddog on June 20, 2022, 02:46:04 PM
Surely Kelly will pick up O'neill ?
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: illdecide on June 20, 2022, 02:47:59 PM
Start with the Hotels...

As someone stated a few posts back, don't come yapping when things go tits up and no-one can afford your rip-off Hotels.
Dublin can keep their Hotels and beer and charge whatever they want as i'll not be making any purchases.

As for the tickets...

I expected 70,000 - 75,000 for the game as 3 from 4 bring a good support  and the two games would appeal to a lot of neutrals. If it's a sell out...great.

As for the match...

Jasus would be foolish to predict TBH, there are so many factors. Will it be defensive?. Will it be all out attack?. Both teams have a marquee forward with good attacking talent around them. Both teams have their flaws but one thing for sure is it should be close. If Galway push up on Armagh kick outs and cause them to panic they will get some joy from that, If Shane Walsh is not marshalled right we will get tore a new arse. Comer is a big unit and could cause problems too. 
Armagh have a lot of attacking talent which will rack up scores against the best teams so for me it will come down to midfield and defence, will we hold them out. Can Armagh win the battle around the mid third?. For me this is the key and if we can break even there we will win the game but that's easier said than done.

Armagh 2-14
Galway 1-15
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: maddog on June 20, 2022, 02:53:31 PM
I'd say Galway will be making plans for Campbells runs from deep. Great to see him back to form.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: maddog on June 20, 2022, 03:03:22 PM
Start with the Hotels...

As someone stated a few posts back, don't come yapping when things go tits up and no-one can afford your rip-off Hotels.
Dublin can keep their Hotels and beer and charge whatever they want as i'll not be making any purchases.

As for the tickets...

I expected 70,000 - 75,000 for the game as 3 from 4 bring a good support  and the two games would appeal to a lot of neutrals. If it's a sell out...great.

As for the match...

Jasus would be foolish to predict TBH, there are so many factors. Will it be defensive?. Will it be all out attack?. Both teams have a marquee forward with good attacking talent around them. Both teams have their flaws but one thing for sure is it should be close. If Galway push up on Armagh kick outs and cause them to panic they will get some joy from that, If Shane Walsh is not marshalled right we will get tore a new arse. Comer is a big unit and could cause problems too. 
Armagh have a lot of attacking talent which will rack up scores against the best teams so for me it will come down to midfield and defence, will we hold them out. Can Armagh win the battle around the mid third?. For me this is the key and if we can break even there we will win the game but that's easier said than done.

Armagh 2-14
Galway 1-15

Shelbourne hotel on booking.com for night of AIF is £1407, and another 30 euro if you want breakfast. This should be in the WTF thread.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: tonto1888 on June 20, 2022, 03:43:17 PM
I saw someone on the Orchard Fans forum complaining already about the price of hotels the night of the All Ireland final, ye will be spending a lot of money in Dublin over the next month.

Most on there are best ignored
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: mouview on June 20, 2022, 03:57:56 PM
I'm still scared from the performance against Tipp in 2016, about as disappointing as I've ever been leaving Croke Park given the expectation prior to the match.



Different team, different manager, different mindset and approach.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on June 20, 2022, 04:03:53 PM
I'm still scared from the performance against Tipp in 2016, about as disappointing as I've ever been leaving Croke Park given the expectation prior to the match.

I'd imagine Kieran Molloy will be given the job of man marking Rhian O'Neill although I'll be more then concerned when he ventures into the full forward line, that Galway backline lacks a bit of height but don't think there's a backline amongst all the sides left which doesn't have that issue. Armagh might have the same issue and I can see Patrick Kelly spending a bit of time in the full forward line trying to catch them out.

Who knows what Galway will turn up, still have a good few doubts about this team unfortunately; Going to have to up the ante defensively from the Roscommon game.

I'm sure Galway have done plenty of work on Rafferty's kickout, both keepers have a lot of work to do in that department to match the standard of the top keepers. Rafferty doesn't like kicking to his left, can't recall him going to that side too many times  in the last 2 games. The likelihood is we'll see more contests from the kickouts then any other game this weekend.

They have no body of work to hang their proverbial hats on, difficult to see statements online like "Galway will be found out" from the neighbours, but until that Galway team prove otherwise it's hard to refute it either. Would anyone be that surprised to see Galway lose heavily on Sunday?
It's happened before so time for the Galway players to stand up and deliver in a big CP knockout match, even if they don't win but still play to their ability then reasonable supporters will go fair enough beaten by a better team. I think Galway have a right chance if they can somehow improve on retaining Gleeson's limited kickouts and put pressure on the opposite end.
Once it's not a total no show like Tipp 2016 or a downing tools situation like the second half of the Connacht final last year, we'll live with the outcome regardless.

Different team, different manager, different mindset and approach.
I would love to agree fully but that is to be proven yet, Galway have done well this year overall in fairness from what was a very low base in January, another huge test on Sunday. If they get a result there then we'll have a lot to look forward to, it could be the making of whichever team wins I feel.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: rosnarun on June 20, 2022, 04:05:34 PM
I'm still scared from the performance against Tipp in 2016, about as disappointing as I've ever been leaving Croke Park given the expectation prior to the match.

I'd imagine Kieran Molloy will be given the job of man marking Rhian O'Neill although I'll be more then concerned when he ventures into the full forward line, that Galway backline lacks a bit of height but don't think there's a backline amongst all the sides left which doesn't have that issue. Armagh might have the same issue and I can see Patrick Kelly spending a bit of time in the full forward line trying to catch them out.

Who knows what Galway will turn up, still have a good few doubts about this team unfortunately; Going to have to up the ante defensively from the Roscommon game.

I'm sure Galway have done plenty of work on Rafferty's kickout, both keepers have a lot of work to do in that department to match the standard of the top keepers. Rafferty doesn't like kicking to his left, can't recall him going to that side too many times  in the last 2 games. The likelihood is we'll see more contests from the kickouts then any other game this weekend.
Galway have good enough forwards and poor enough defenders to take Armagh on in a shoot out
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: seafoid on June 20, 2022, 04:09:30 PM
I think Galway have the better manager
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: marty34 on June 20, 2022, 05:52:43 PM
I think Galway have the better manager

Hard to know.

When a team wins, the managers get the plaudits and when they lose, he gets the grief.

Need to have lads on the team, big leaders, who make the big decisions, when things get tough during a game.

With the water breaks gone now, less chance for management to discuss things properly.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Captain Scarlet on June 20, 2022, 06:13:55 PM
Excuse the ignorance here as I don't see as much of Armagh but the bauld Soupy is being relied on a nice bit and you would imagine getting a run on him going the other way is not something he fancies.

Would Galway try a curve ball like Aidan O'Shea on Donaghy and bring someone back who can live with O'Neill on the edge of the square and then can more than hold their own out the field.

It shoud be a great day above no matter. Feel for any fans having to pay for juice and a hotel. It's a feckin joke at the minute and it won't get any better.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: galwayman on June 20, 2022, 06:27:24 PM
Excuse the ignorance here as I don't see as much of Armagh but the bauld Soupy is being relied on a nice bit and you would imagine getting a run on him going the other way is not something he fancies.

Would Galway try a curve ball like Aidan O'Shea on Donaghy and bring someone back who can live with O'Neill on the edge of the square and then can more than hold their own out the field.

It shoud be a great day above no matter. Feel for any fans having to pay for juice and a hotel. It's a feckin joke at the minute and it won't get any better.
If O Neill plays inside - Sean Kelly will pick him up. If he plays further out - Daly or Molloy most likely to pick him up.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Armagh18 on June 20, 2022, 06:32:27 PM
Excuse the ignorance here as I don't see as much of Armagh but the bauld Soupy is being relied on a nice bit and you would imagine getting a run on him going the other way is not something he fancies.

Would Galway try a curve ball like Aidan O'Shea on Donaghy and bring someone back who can live with O'Neill on the edge of the square and then can more than hold their own out the field.

It shoud be a great day above no matter. Feel for any fans having to pay for juice and a hotel. It's a feckin joke at the minute and it won't get any better.
Couldnít see it. Soupy a serious player but I definitely donít think we rely on him.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Captain Scarlet on June 20, 2022, 06:33:07 PM
You'd know more going on the handle alone, so would there be a handover if he drifts? Not one person with him all day.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Aaron Boone on June 20, 2022, 08:24:13 PM
Orange jerseys will show up very well on TV. The Qatar World Cup producers are all over the Netherlands first game for the colour alone. 
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Manning18 on June 21, 2022, 11:04:18 AM
Excuse the ignorance here as I don't see as much of Armagh but the bauld Soupy is being relied on a nice bit and you would imagine getting a run on him going the other way is not something he fancies.

Would Galway try a curve ball like Aidan O'Shea on Donaghy and bring someone back who can live with O'Neill on the edge of the square and then can more than hold their own out the field.

It shoud be a great day above no matter. Feel for any fans having to pay for juice and a hotel. It's a feckin joke at the minute and it won't get any better.

The best Galway player equipped to deal with him is already at the edge of the square. The worrying problem is when Rian roams, would Kelly come out the field at that point and leave no physical presence back there? Probably not but its hard to know. Molloy will probably follow him out the field but it would leave Rian as an excellent option for kickouts, if Raferty can hit him. Galway best defenders by a distance are at 3 & 6
 
Is Morgan likely to pick up Comer if Comer goes to 14? Galway themselves potentially have two very high ball options in the forwards if they decide to play them close to goal.

I think this game could be far cagier than the classic most people are predicting. Galway are afraid of leaving their back line exposed against a team like Mayo who've average forwards and don't kick the ball. There's no way they won't play with at least 1 sweeper against a team that actually does go direct. Probably a double sweeper. Mcgeeneys not going to play the game on Galways terms and feed into the one thing Galway are really good at, quick counter attacks. So I don't think Armagh will over commit as a response. Where the game could open up is if one team falls behind and has to really press kick outs, as both keepers are there to be shot at. But until that point im expecting a slower game than most
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Manning18 on June 21, 2022, 11:05:19 AM
Orange jerseys will show up very well on TV. The Qatar World Cup producers are all over the Netherlands first game for the colour alone.

Definitely. There'll be 30k Armagh fans and it'll feel like 50k
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 21, 2022, 11:10:27 AM
G, u some amount of jump on the bandwagon Armagh supporters when you barely had 7k at Ballybofey. (Limited Capacity of course)
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Tubberman on June 21, 2022, 11:25:09 AM
Orange jerseys will show up very well on TV. The Qatar World Cup producers are all over the Netherlands first game for the colour alone. 

Ye'll definitely win so
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: seafoid on June 21, 2022, 12:04:19 PM
Why do Armagh have orange jerseys ?
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: maddog on June 21, 2022, 12:34:13 PM
Why do Armagh have orange jerseys ?

was the nuns in omeath knitted them jerseys way back and was only colour they had. Apparently.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: maddog on June 21, 2022, 12:35:38 PM
before that they played in black and amber. Same as cross.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: trailer on June 21, 2022, 12:42:22 PM
Orange jerseys will show up very well on TV. The Qatar World Cup producers are all over the Netherlands first game for the colour alone.

Definitely. There'll be 30k Armagh fans and it'll feel like 50k

Dublin will be flooded.... with their tears.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: RedHand88 on June 21, 2022, 01:00:28 PM
Why do Armagh have orange jerseys ?

Because the orange order was founded in Armagh and is an institution in the county.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: yellowcard on June 21, 2022, 01:15:13 PM
Great to see all the attention this thread is getting from Tyrone fans, its a long time since they took 30k+ fans to a match anyway but given some of the stuff they played over the years I wouldn't really blame their fans. Croke Park will be a sea of orange on Sunday as there is nothing to reinvigorate a fan base like a few years in the relative wilderness and playing a good brand of football. If there is another day out after Sunday the ante will be upped again for the next day. If not then we can live with getting beaten by Galway, it's not like a defeat against Tyrone or Down.     
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: An Watcher on June 21, 2022, 01:18:13 PM
Fantastic to see a big Armagh support.  I remember when Tyrone first started making inroads in the All Ireland series.  Huge crowds. 
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: armaghniac on June 21, 2022, 03:18:31 PM
G, u some amount of jump on the bandwagon Armagh supporters when you barely had 7k at Ballybofey. (Limited Capacity of course)

There was 10,000+ Armagh people at the league games in the Athletic grounds against Tyrone and Kerry and not many less against Monaghan. There are a good few for whom it will not be their first game.
20 years ago the Armagh championship support was about 16,000, which is a substantial proportion of the county. 
This game will attract people with Armagh connections who think that Kerry v Mayo might be interesting too.

The forecast for Sunday is a bit mixed at present, it would be nice if the rain and wind held off as it would suit Galway.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: galwayman on June 21, 2022, 03:24:24 PM
G, u some amount of jump on the bandwagon Armagh supporters when you barely had 7k at Ballybofey. (Limited Capacity of course)

There was 10,000+ Armagh people at the league games in the Athletic grounds against Tyrone and Kerry and not many less against Monaghan. There are a good few for whom it will not be their first game.
20 years ago the Armagh championship support was about 16,000, which is a substantial proportion of the county. 
This game will attract people with Armagh connections who think that Kerry v Mayo might be interesting too.

The forecast for Sunday is a bit mixed at present, it would be nice if the rain and wind held off as it would suit Galway.
Not so sure I agree with you there
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: lurganblue on June 21, 2022, 04:55:55 PM
Tell me this... was chatting to a lad there and he happened to say that Croke Park dont allow you to take a backpack in anymore.  Now i says, sure i was there in Jan for the league game v the dubs and brought one in no bother. 

I'm now thinking, feck could he be right.  Long oul time in Croke Park for the 2 games and the kids with me.  I need a right supply of sambos and snacks!

Anyone able to shed light on this for me?
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Rossfan on June 21, 2022, 05:00:11 PM
They were telling people to get their bags searched last Saturday week.
But with a near full house expected that might not be feasible next Sunday.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: armaghniac on June 21, 2022, 05:35:27 PM
Tell me this... was chatting to a lad there and he happened to say that Croke Park dont allow you to take a backpack in anymore.  Now i says, sure i was there in Jan for the league game v the dubs and brought one in no bother. 

I'm now thinking, feck could he be right.  Long oul time in Croke Park for the 2 games and the kids with me.  I need a right supply of sambos and snacks!

Anyone able to shed light on this for me?

Put them in clear plastic bag and I'd say you would have no problem however many munchies you bring.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: balladmaker on June 21, 2022, 05:41:39 PM
I'd say they're more looking for the 6-pack of cans than anything else ... or more aptly, the buckfast this Sunday  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: marty34 on June 21, 2022, 06:15:08 PM
Tell me this... was chatting to a lad there and he happened to say that Croke Park dont allow you to take a backpack in anymore.  Now i says, sure i was there in Jan for the league game v the dubs and brought one in no bother. 

I'm now thinking, feck could he be right.  Long oul time in Croke Park for the 2 games and the kids with me.  I need a right supply of sambos and snacks!

Anyone able to shed light on this for me?

I was at Leinster Final. I had a small A4 size rucksack with a couple of bottles of water and a few treats etc.

There's a few lads on tables who 'search' anyone with a bag before you get to the turnstiles.

I use the term 'search' loosely but they have a quick rummage through it.

Bear in mind, the crowd was poor enough so no real queue at the tables.  If a big crowd, like anticipated, at the week-end, it could hold things up a bit.

Best advice is to get in early and avoid the hassle.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: full moon on June 21, 2022, 06:44:56 PM
Tell me this... was chatting to a lad there and he happened to say that Croke Park dont allow you to take a backpack in anymore.  Now i says, sure i was there in Jan for the league game v the dubs and brought one in no bother. 

I'm now thinking, feck could he be right.  Long oul time in Croke Park for the 2 games and the kids with me.  I need a right supply of sambos and snacks!

Anyone able to shed light on this for me?

I'd say it will be okay if it's a schoolbag type size. I had a full bag with me last Sunday and wasn't searched for the first game but they were searching for the second match I noticed.

I imagine at worst a quick scrimmage through for any banned items and it be a few seconds. With the crowd expected they'll be fairly busy.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: yellowcard on June 21, 2022, 08:07:40 PM
No longer tickets available to buy for the Sunday. I doubt if theyíll be rummaging through bags to confiscate sandwiches on people anyway.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: armaghniac on June 21, 2022, 08:26:55 PM
No longer tickets available to buy for the Sunday. I doubt if theyíll be rummaging through bags to confiscate sandwiches on people anyway.

If they would confiscate those bloody horns, I would be happy enough.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Manning18 on June 21, 2022, 10:13:09 PM
G, u some amount of jump on the bandwagon Armagh supporters when you barely had 7k at Ballybofey. (Limited Capacity of course)

There was 10,000+ Armagh people at the league games in the Athletic grounds against Tyrone and Kerry and not many less against Monaghan. There are a good few for whom it will not be their first game.
20 years ago the Armagh championship support was about 16,000, which is a substantial proportion of the county. 
This game will attract people with Armagh connections who think that Kerry v Mayo might be interesting too.

The forecast for Sunday is a bit mixed at present, it would be nice if the rain and wind held off as it would suit Galway.

How would the wind and especially rain suit Galway? They have very little physicality all over, their whole game is based on quick counter attacking at speed, usually with the foot. Armagh are a much more physical side and would be expected to thrive in a game in the trenches. Galway rely heavily on individual moments from their best footballers, Conroy Walsh & Comer, none of whom would suit a wet day whatsoever. Both Galways Connacht wins came on hot dry days. Historically they've performed poorly when the elements have been bad. It would probably blunt Armagh's direct kicking game in alright, but that's also what Galway have been incorporating heavily also
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Redhand Santa on June 21, 2022, 10:18:17 PM
Whatís the reason behind not opening the nally terrace for this? No other tickets available so youíd think they would have it open.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 21, 2022, 10:22:56 PM
Little physicality, you got 3/4 lads over 6ft 4in depending on who u starting.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Manning18 on June 21, 2022, 11:46:40 PM
Little physicality, you got 3/4 lads over 6ft 4in depending on who u starting.

Who?
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: tonto1888 on June 22, 2022, 07:49:51 AM
I'd say they're more looking for the 6-pack of cans than anything else ... or more aptly, the buckfast this Sunday  ;)

Ah now, we put that into pepsi bottles #foolingnoone
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: seafoid on June 22, 2022, 09:34:11 AM
If the match was decided on the basis of GAAboard posts, Armagh would be unbackable.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: APM on June 22, 2022, 10:14:30 AM
If the match was decided on the basis of GAAboard posts, Armagh would be unbackable.

I'm not sure that's the case!

I think most people see this game as 50/50.  Darragh O'Se in his column in today's Irish Times, is very slightly tipping Galway. 
Some bookies seem to have Armagh as very slight favourites. 

There's nothing in it in most people's minds, yet I wouldn't be surprised if either team won by 7 or 8 points. 

Armagh have the momentum. Galway waiting in the long grass.

One final point - I think its refreshing to see supporters enjoying a bit of success in Armagh. Don't underestimate the quality and style of Armagh's play this year in encouraging a bit of giddyness.  Given the level of skepticism and boring detail that pervades among GAA followers and analysts, is this not a good thing.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Manning18 on June 22, 2022, 10:24:16 AM
I'd say they're more looking for the 6-pack of cans than anything else ... or more aptly, the buckfast this Sunday  ;)

This is the buckfast bowl really isn't it? Galway the traditional buckfast capital although I hear sales up round yer spot have hit a huge revival in recent years!
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: armaghniac on June 22, 2022, 10:53:30 AM
G, u some amount of jump on the bandwagon Armagh supporters when you barely had 7k at Ballybofey. (Limited Capacity of course)

There was 10,000+ Armagh people at the league games in the Athletic grounds against Tyrone and Kerry and not many less against Monaghan. There are a good few for whom it will not be their first game.
20 years ago the Armagh championship support was about 16,000, which is a substantial proportion of the county. 
This game will attract people with Armagh connections who think that Kerry v Mayo might be interesting too.

The forecast for Sunday is a bit mixed at present, it would be nice if the rain and wind held off as it would suit Galway.

How would the wind and especially rain suit Galway? They have very little physicality all over, their whole game is based on quick counter attacking at speed, usually with the foot. Armagh are a much more physical side and would be expected to thrive in a game in the trenches. Galway rely heavily on individual moments from their best footballers, Conroy Walsh & Comer, none of whom would suit a wet day whatsoever. Both Galways Connacht wins came on hot dry days. Historically they've performed poorly when the elements have been bad. It would probably blunt Armagh's direct kicking game in alright, but that's also what Galway have been incorporating heavily also

The forecast today makes rain more likely than not on Sunday.
There is more rain generally in Galway than Armagh

Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Rossfan on June 22, 2022, 10:55:29 AM
A few tickets still available

https://www.ticketmaster.ie/event/18005CBEA7F4ADC2
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: lfdown2 on June 22, 2022, 11:38:05 AM
Anyone looking tickets, I have 4 for upper Cusack, section 714. Face value (40 each) ono.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Applesisapples on June 22, 2022, 12:06:55 PM
Tell me this... was chatting to a lad there and he happened to say that Croke Park dont allow you to take a backpack in anymore.  Now i says, sure i was there in Jan for the league game v the dubs and brought one in no bother. 

I'm now thinking, feck could he be right.  Long oul time in Croke Park for the 2 games and the kids with me.  I need a right supply of sambos and snacks!

Anyone able to shed light on this for me?
Get your order in to wee paddy's asap.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Manning18 on June 22, 2022, 12:12:51 PM
G, u some amount of jump on the bandwagon Armagh supporters when you barely had 7k at Ballybofey. (Limited Capacity of course)

There was 10,000+ Armagh people at the league games in the Athletic grounds against Tyrone and Kerry and not many less against Monaghan. There are a good few for whom it will not be their first game.
20 years ago the Armagh championship support was about 16,000, which is a substantial proportion of the county. 
This game will attract people with Armagh connections who think that Kerry v Mayo might be interesting too.

The forecast for Sunday is a bit mixed at present, it would be nice if the rain and wind held off as it would suit Galway.

How would the wind and especially rain suit Galway? They have very little physicality all over, their whole game is based on quick counter attacking at speed, usually with the foot. Armagh are a much more physical side and would be expected to thrive in a game in the trenches. Galway rely heavily on individual moments from their best footballers, Conroy Walsh & Comer, none of whom would suit a wet day whatsoever. Both Galways Connacht wins came on hot dry days. Historically they've performed poorly when the elements have been bad. It would probably blunt Armagh's direct kicking game in alright, but that's also what Galway have been incorporating heavily also

The forecast today makes rain more likely than not on Sunday.
There is more rain generally in Galway than Armagh



Haha. I can't believe I'm actually entertaining a discussion on this one. But anyway, Galway and Armagh are in the same shade in that graphic. Those darker blue spots, they're all mountains

We do get our share of rain though alright. Unfortunately we've been training in that new Connacht dome all winter. Feck it
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: clarshack on June 22, 2022, 12:25:20 PM
Tell me this... was chatting to a lad there and he happened to say that Croke Park dont allow you to take a backpack in anymore.  Now i says, sure i was there in Jan for the league game v the dubs and brought one in no bother. 

I'm now thinking, feck could he be right.  Long oul time in Croke Park for the 2 games and the kids with me.  I need a right supply of sambos and snacks!

Anyone able to shed light on this for me?

Can only go by my own experience but we were able to take in one of those Club Tyrone Summer camp bags into the All-Ireland Final last year. They vigorously searched all bags going in (we were in the Cusack stand) and took 2 cans of Fanta off us (the cans were at the bottom of the bag under other stuff). I had only expected them to do a quick rummage like the other times we were previously in Croke Park but they did let us drink them before going in which was awful nice of them!.
If you are going to take in fizzy drinks for the kids then just put them in your coat pocket!
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: yellowcard on June 22, 2022, 12:55:52 PM
If the match was decided on the basis of GAAboard posts, Armagh would be unbackable.

Anyone predicting the result of this game with any degree of certainty is lying since there is no reliable form guide to base it off. I think that is a large part of the appeal of the fixture. Armagh v Donegal on the other hand carried a lot of familiarity fatigue for players and fans even though it ultimately turned out to be a great match.

I think that Armagh have the momentum though and if they continue to play with the same freedom I think they will be very hard to beat on Sunday. We have been used to playing division one opposition all year which is ideal preparation whereas Galway have only played division 2 sides with the exception of Mayo. I think Galway might struggle to live with our level of intensity and tackling. That said I can't pretend to know an awful lot about Galway but, rightly or wrongly, the perception is that they have some very good attacking players but that defensively they are suspect.

The area I'd be worried about most on Sunday is our midfield which is a long way off the level of the top teams. For that reason I think Rian O'Neill will spend most of the match around the middle and I think that is where he is most effective anyway although he might spend some short spells playing inside. If Rafferty can have a good day on kick outs and we can get close to breaking even around midfield then I think we will have a great chance as we have the quality up front to do damage on a big pitch. I don't think the weather will favour any side, the pitch will still be in pristine condition and a greasy ball just favours the better ball handling team.     
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: rrhf on June 22, 2022, 01:08:00 PM
G, u some amount of jump on the bandwagon Armagh supporters when you barely had 7k at Ballybofey. (Limited Capacity of course)

There was 10,000+ Armagh people at the league games in the Athletic grounds against Tyrone and Kerry and not many less against Monaghan. There are a good few for whom it will not be their first game.
20 years ago the Armagh championship support was about 16,000, which is a substantial proportion of the county. 




This game will attract people with Armagh connections who think that Kerry v Mayo might be interesting too.

The forecast for Sunday is a bit mixed at present, it would be nice if the rain and wind held off as it would suit Galway.

How would the wind and especially rain suit Galway? They have very little physicality all over, their whole game is based on quick counter attacking at speed, usually with the foot. Armagh are a much more physical side and would be expected to thrive in a game in the trenches. Galway rely heavily on individual moments from their best footballers, Conroy Walsh & Comer, none of whom would suit a wet day whatsoever. Both Galways Connacht wins came on hot dry days. Historically they've performed poorly when the elements have been bad. It would probably blunt Armagh's direct kicking game in alright, but that's also what Galway have been incorporating heavily also

The forecast today makes rain more likely than not on Sunday.
There is more rain generally in Galway than Armagh



Haha. I can't believe I'm actually entertaining a discussion on this one. But anyway, Galway and Armagh are in the same shade in that graphic. Those darker blue spots, they're all mountains

We do get our share of rain though alright. Unfortunately we've been training in that new Connacht dome all winter. Feck it
Whilst the Map is sure to get Alarm bells ringing in Mc Geeneys camp as neither him or Donaghy have much experience of living in rainswept counties. Rory Gallagher will be relaxed sitting on his leather chair stroking his cat. The Fermanagh man is having a nice week...
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: galwayman on June 22, 2022, 01:12:08 PM
Little physicality, you got 3/4 lads over 6ft 4in depending on who u starting.
I can think of only one lad that height on the whole panel - Patrick Kelly.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: tonto1888 on June 22, 2022, 01:14:49 PM
Little physicality, you got 3/4 lads over 6ft 4in depending on who u starting.
I can think of only one lad that height on the whole panel - Patrick Kelly.

what size is Comer?
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Armagh18 on June 22, 2022, 02:01:37 PM
Little physicality, you got 3/4 lads over 6ft 4in depending on who u starting.
I can think of only one lad that height on the whole panel - Patrick Kelly.

what size is Comer?
He wouldnít be overly tall would he? Built like a belgian blue though!
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: galwayman on June 22, 2022, 03:15:01 PM
Little physicality, you got 3/4 lads over 6ft 4in depending on who u starting.
I can think of only one lad that height on the whole panel - Patrick Kelly.

what size is Comer?
He wouldnít be overly tall would he? Built like a belgian blue though!
Strong as an ox but only about 6 foot tall
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Manning18 on June 22, 2022, 03:56:27 PM
Comers Galway's only physical presence really despite being 6ft tops. Sean Kelly is the best bet on a light defence for Rian if he goes inside but you'd still worry. There's essentially zero midfielders in the 26. The best of them is out in America in Peter Cooke, while the 2/3 others who floated around in recent seasons have either fallen foul of Joyce or visa versa and dropped away. So we rely on Conroy who's really a forward and is a bit undersized as a traditional ball winning midfielder, and a wing back in McDaid. Patrick Kelly as someone mentioned is huge alright, about 6 5' but at 21 is a bag of bones still and will be a forward, if he starts.

That's essentially the big issue for Galway, we have a keeper who can't get quick kickouts away and lack the size and ball winning ability for when he goes deep, which is the majority of the time. In the Mayo game they had 50% more possessions than Galway. That'll need to change Sunday but it's hard to envisage a scenario where Galway won't lose that statistic again. Happened versus Roscommon also

So you're essentially hoping to get past that and place hope in the team's good points, a lot of pace on the break from all over, and forwards who can score from limited possession. It'll likely cost them in the end however
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Blowitupref on June 22, 2022, 04:19:32 PM
In the Connacht final it appeared Matthew Tierney, Paul Conroy was the Galway midfield pairing. McDaid played wing back and was heavily involved in the counter attacking with his pace. Molloy, Sean Kelly were doing man marking roles both probably to do the same on Armagh best two forwards on Sunday?
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Armagh18 on June 22, 2022, 04:24:09 PM
In the Connacht final it appeared Matthew Tierney, Paul Conroy was the Galway midfield pairing. McDaid played wing back and was heavily involved in the counter attacking with his pace. Molloy, Sean Kelly were doing man marking roles both probably to do the same on Armagh best two forwards on Sunday?
Molloy is the Corofin fella with the long hair? Who would he be likely to pick up do you think?  Consensus seems to be Kelly will pick up Rian. Nugent, Grugan and Soupy all need man marked as well- all capable of ripping any team a new one. As are Comer/Walsh/Conroy for Galway.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Blowitupref on June 22, 2022, 04:34:27 PM
In the Connacht final it appeared Matthew Tierney, Paul Conroy was the Galway midfield pairing. McDaid played wing back and was heavily involved in the counter attacking with his pace. Molloy, Sean Kelly were doing man marking roles both probably to do the same on Armagh best two forwards on Sunday?
Molloy is the Corofin fella with the long hair? Who would he be likely to pick up do you think?  Consensus seems to be Kelly will pick up Rian. Nugent, Grugan and Soupy all need man marked as well- all capable of ripping any team a new one. As are Comer/Walsh/Conroy for Galway.

That's him, when given the man marking role Galway management normally earmark the most creative and likely goal scorer. Sean Kelly will likely be tasked with Rian O'Neill.


Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: galwayman on June 22, 2022, 04:48:02 PM
In the Connacht final it appeared Matthew Tierney, Paul Conroy was the Galway midfield pairing. McDaid played wing back and was heavily involved in the counter attacking with his pace. Molloy, Sean Kelly were doing man marking roles both probably to do the same on Armagh best two forwards on Sunday?
Molloy is the Corofin fella with the long hair? Who would he be likely to pick up do you think?  Consensus seems to be Kelly will pick up Rian. Nugent, Grugan and Soupy all need man marked as well- all capable of ripping any team a new one. As are Comer/Walsh/Conroy for Galway.

That's him, when given the man marking role Galway management normally earmark the most creative and likely goal scorer. Sean Kelly will likely be tasked with Rian O'Neill.
Has to be Kelly. Liam Silke is the only other possibility.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Armamike on June 22, 2022, 04:50:53 PM
If the match was decided on the basis of GAAboard posts, Armagh would be unbackable.

I don't know much about Galway but it's dangerous to talk with authority about how a game is likely to go or how particular teams will play on the day.  I wouldn't have a clue how to call most games never mind this one. 
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 22, 2022, 05:06:00 PM
You Galway lads not even know the height of u lads. Paul Conroy, all 6ft 4 of him is not a ball fetching midfielder, right, Tierney a inch bigger again, christ.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: yellowcard on June 22, 2022, 05:11:58 PM
Comers Galway's only physical presence really despite being 6ft tops. Sean Kelly is the best bet on a light defence for Rian if he goes inside but you'd still worry. There's essentially zero midfielders in the 26. The best of them is out in America in Peter Cooke, while the 2/3 others who floated around in recent seasons have either fallen foul of Joyce or visa versa and dropped away. So we rely on Conroy who's really a forward and is a bit undersized as a traditional ball winning midfielder, and a wing back in McDaid. Patrick Kelly as someone mentioned is huge alright, about 6 5' but at 21 is a bag of bones still and will be a forward, if he starts.

That's essentially the big issue for Galway, we have a keeper who can't get quick kickouts away and lack the size and ball winning ability for when he goes deep, which is the majority of the time. In the Mayo game they had 50% more possessions than Galway. That'll need to change Sunday but it's hard to envisage a scenario where Galway won't lose that statistic again. Happened versus Roscommon also

So you're essentially hoping to get past that and place hope in the team's good points, a lot of pace on the break from all over, and forwards who can score from limited possession. It'll likely cost them in the end however

That's good to know because I would have doubts about Armaghs midfield as well so it sounds like we both have the same strengths and weaknesses in terms of defence, midfield and attack. I would gladly take 50% possession around the middle and trust in our forwards to win us the match. There is also a doubt as to how strong Rafferty is under pressure when a squeeze is put on his kick outs. However if in doubt I noticed that he tends to put a lot towards the sideline which is the best place to lose the ball. Armaghs defence has improved considerably this season but it will be interesting to see how it holds up under pressure on Sunday as I believe this Galway forward line could be the best we've faced yet. This season we have reduced the amount of scoreable free kicks we are giving away under pressure.

I see that Coldrick is down to referee the match which should suit Armagh as he allows a bit more physical contact than most referees and he had a great game refereeing us against Tyrone.   
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Manning18 on June 22, 2022, 05:29:55 PM
In the Connacht final it appeared Matthew Tierney, Paul Conroy was the Galway midfield pairing. McDaid played wing back and was heavily involved in the counter attacking with his pace. Molloy, Sean Kelly were doing man marking roles both probably to do the same on Armagh best two forwards on Sunday?
Molloy is the Corofin fella with the long hair? Who would he be likely to pick up do you think?  Consensus seems to be Kelly will pick up Rian. Nugent, Grugan and Soupy all need man marked as well- all capable of ripping any team a new one. As are Comer/Walsh/Conroy for Galway.

Nugent worries me. He'll be picked up by one of Glynn (pacy but young and lacks strength) or Silke (experienced but lacks mobility for a corner). I think he could cause either issues. John Daly is Galways best defender but will likely play the sweeper role and try hold the middle as much as possible. Molloy may tag Rian if he roams far from goal but otherwise I'd say he'll be on Campbell. Glynn on Nugent and Silke on Grugan if I had to guess but depends who far Grugan plays from goal also
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Manning18 on June 22, 2022, 05:33:49 PM
You Galway lads not even know the height of u lads. Paul Conroy, all 6ft 4 of him is not a ball fetching midfielder, right, Tierney a inch bigger again, christ.

Literally a simple google will tell you Conroy's not 6 4'. We've been watching him for 15 years, often as the midfield partner of actual 6 4' players such as Tom Flynn or Fintain o'Currain.

This is one of the oddest things I've ever seen someone get butthurt over. Galway fans explaining an area that their team is lacking in and an opposition fan trying to argue against it. Weird
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: LCohen on June 22, 2022, 09:03:39 PM
You Galway lads not even know the height of u lads. Paul Conroy, all 6ft 4 of him is not a ball fetching midfielder, right, Tierney a inch bigger again, christ.

Literally a simple google will tell you Conroy's not 6 4'. We've been watching him for 15 years, often as the midfield partner of actual 6 4' players such as Tom Flynn or Fintain o'Currain.

This is one of the oddest things I've ever seen someone get butthurt over. Galway fans explaining an area that their team is lacking in and an opposition fan trying to argue against it. Weird

He is 6í3Ē or thereabouts.

This could come down to inches
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 22, 2022, 09:43:59 PM
He's 6ft 4 cause he played against James kielt more than a few time since minor and he always been bigger than him, Kielt was over 6ft 3in.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Dreadnought on June 23, 2022, 08:58:11 AM
Not sure what to make of this match. Armagh are being bigged up a bit more than they should be imo. Don't get me wrong, good wins against (albeit terrible defending champions) Tyrone, and then a Donegal team, that even looking out of sorts, were fit to get back into the game and lead despite the bad start. The black card and penalty turned the game and then were able to coast after that. I'm just not sold on Armagh yet. For years they were fit to do it in league, but looked poor come summer when it mattered. They'll have huge momentum with their run, but really think a Galway team with good confidence, forwards in form, will be a very different thing than what they've seen this summer. It's a very different beast they'll be facing. I just think they flatter to deceive a lot. And with Rian O'Neill, a great player, but can go from the hottest of hot to the coldest of cold from one day to the next. If he has an off day, I don't see where Armagh get enough scores from. Think Galway are solid, playing well, and have 3 to 4 forward that need to be wrapped up, and can't see this being done to all of them so scores might come a bit easier to them. It'll be a battle and we'll see how Armagh go then, but I'd take Galway by 3.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: seafoid on June 23, 2022, 09:27:58 AM
It's hard to know what level Ulster football is at. This weekend should tell a tale.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Armagh2022 on June 23, 2022, 09:29:04 AM
Armagh have been probably one of the few teams who have had a huge spread of scorers through the league and championship and a lot from play. I get what you mean they flatter to deceive at the business end but so do Galway. I think Galway have only won 1 game in Croke Park since 2001 including league Armagh have won a right few games there in recent times. It will be an intresting Match up thats for sure. I think the game will be won on the day massively influenced by the keepers kickout Midfield battle and how the ref fairs out for both teams. I think its a toss up between the both in terms of Player Ability   
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: galwayman on June 23, 2022, 10:12:16 AM
Armagh have been probably one of the few teams who have had a huge spread of scorers through the league and championship and a lot from play. I get what you mean they flatter to deceive at the business end but so do Galway. I think Galway have only won 1 game in Croke Park since 2001 including league Armagh have won a right few games there in recent times. It will be an intresting Match up thats for sure. I think the game will be won on the day massively influenced by the keepers kickout Midfield battle and how the ref fairs out for both teams. I think its a toss up between the both in terms of Player Ability   
I don't think anyone could argue with that statement re Galway to be fair.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on June 23, 2022, 10:39:07 AM
Not sure what to make of this match. Armagh are being bigged up a bit more than they should be imo. Don't get me wrong, good wins against (albeit terrible defending champions) Tyrone, and then a Donegal team, that even looking out of sorts, were fit to get back into the game and lead despite the bad start. The black card and penalty turned the game and then were able to coast after that. I'm just not sold on Armagh yet. For years they were fit to do it in league, but looked poor come summer when it mattered. They'll have huge momentum with their run, but really think a Galway team with good confidence, forwards in form, will be a very different thing than what they've seen this summer. It's a very different beast they'll be facing. I just think they flatter to deceive a lot. And with Rian O'Neill, a great player, but can go from the hottest of hot to the coldest of cold from one day to the next. If he has an off day, I don't see where Armagh get enough scores from. Think Galway are solid, playing well, and have 3 to 4 forward that need to be wrapped up, and can't see this being done to all of them so scores might come a bit easier to them. It'll be a battle and we'll see how Armagh go then, but I'd take Galway by 3.

I really, really hope you are wrong on that, but I don't mind telling you as an Armagh supporter and a lifelong member of the 'glass half empty brigade', your post articulated a lot of my fears ahead of this match.

This is as a good draw for Armagh (as it was for Galway) but too many are conflating a good draw with an easy draw and this match is not that. I would guess that Galway are - by some distance - the best team we will have played in the Championship this year and will represent a formidable obstacle for us.   
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Manning18 on June 23, 2022, 10:47:20 AM
The Galway Croke Park thing is overplayed a bit. In the last 10 years they've played there 7 times. A 1-6 record looks crap on the face of it but only once were they favourites and they were rank outsiders for 5 of them. Played Cork and Donegal soon after those two were competing in finals and Galway were in the doldrums. Lost two and won 1 v Kerry which is a decent return for most counties. Lost to Mayo last year after running out of steam and multiple injuries after an excellent first half. A great second half display from mayo on that on etbf. The one real black mark was a loss to Tipperary. In hindsight that team wasn't near the level required

The Corofin lads have spent their club careers running amok in Croker. About 8 panel members won an u20 All Ireland v Dublin there two years back. Others have won underage AI's there also. I don't think the venue will be an excuse
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Dreadnought on June 23, 2022, 10:58:24 AM
Not sure what to make of this match. Armagh are being bigged up a bit more than they should be imo. Don't get me wrong, good wins against (albeit terrible defending champions) Tyrone, and then a Donegal team, that even looking out of sorts, were fit to get back into the game and lead despite the bad start. The black card and penalty turned the game and then were able to coast after that. I'm just not sold on Armagh yet. For years they were fit to do it in league, but looked poor come summer when it mattered. They'll have huge momentum with their run, but really think a Galway team with good confidence, forwards in form, will be a very different thing than what they've seen this summer. It's a very different beast they'll be facing. I just think they flatter to deceive a lot. And with Rian O'Neill, a great player, but can go from the hottest of hot to the coldest of cold from one day to the next. If he has an off day, I don't see where Armagh get enough scores from. Think Galway are solid, playing well, and have 3 to 4 forward that need to be wrapped up, and can't see this being done to all of them so scores might come a bit easier to them. It'll be a battle and we'll see how Armagh go then, but I'd take Galway by 3.

I really, really hope you are wrong on that, but I don't mind telling you as an Armagh supporter and a lifelong member of the 'glass half empty brigade', your post articulated a lot of my fears ahead of this match.

This is as a good draw for Armagh (as it was for Galway) but too many are conflating a good draw with an easy draw and this match is not that. I would guess that Galway are - by some distance - the best team we will have played in the Championship this year and will represent a formidable obstacle for us.

The funny thing is, all that can be put to bed with the run you're on by continuing to win. I'll be fully sold that you're a different team if you do it against a team in good form, and not under a cloud for some reason. Lord knows you have the talent, just need to produce the goods now consistently. And no reason you can't, especially with the support you'll bring, with that behind you.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: armaghniac on June 23, 2022, 11:11:16 AM
Not sure what to make of this match. Armagh are being bigged up a bit more than they should be imo. Don't get me wrong, good wins against (albeit terrible defending champions) Tyrone, and then a Donegal team, that even looking out of sorts, were fit to get back into the game and lead despite the bad start. The black card and penalty turned the game and then were able to coast after that. I'm just not sold on Armagh yet. For years they were fit to do it in league, but looked poor come summer when it mattered. They'll have huge momentum with their run, but really think a Galway team with good confidence, forwards in form, will be a very different thing than what they've seen this summer. It's a very different beast they'll be facing. I just think they flatter to deceive a lot. And with Rian O'Neill, a great player, but can go from the hottest of hot to the coldest of cold from one day to the next. If he has an off day, I don't see where Armagh get enough scores from. Think Galway are solid, playing well, and have 3 to 4 forward that need to be wrapped up, and can't see this being done to all of them so scores might come a bit easier to them. It'll be a battle and we'll see how Armagh go then, but I'd take Galway by 3.

I really, really hope you are wrong on that, but I don't mind telling you as an Armagh supporter and a lifelong member of the 'glass half empty brigade', your post articulated a lot of my fears ahead of this match.

This is as a good draw for Armagh (as it was for Galway) but too many are conflating a good draw with an easy draw and this match is not that. I would guess that Galway are - by some distance - the best team we will have played in the Championship this year and will represent a formidable obstacle for us.

When did Armagh last put in a performance three times in a row against decent teams?
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Dreadnought on June 23, 2022, 11:14:57 AM
Not sure what to make of this match. Armagh are being bigged up a bit more than they should be imo. Don't get me wrong, good wins against (albeit terrible defending champions) Tyrone, and then a Donegal team, that even looking out of sorts, were fit to get back into the game and lead despite the bad start. The black card and penalty turned the game and then were able to coast after that. I'm just not sold on Armagh yet. For years they were fit to do it in league, but looked poor come summer when it mattered. They'll have huge momentum with their run, but really think a Galway team with good confidence, forwards in form, will be a very different thing than what they've seen this summer. It's a very different beast they'll be facing. I just think they flatter to deceive a lot. And with Rian O'Neill, a great player, but can go from the hottest of hot to the coldest of cold from one day to the next. If he has an off day, I don't see where Armagh get enough scores from. Think Galway are solid, playing well, and have 3 to 4 forward that need to be wrapped up, and can't see this being done to all of them so scores might come a bit easier to them. It'll be a battle and we'll see how Armagh go then, but I'd take Galway by 3.

I really, really hope you are wrong on that, but I don't mind telling you as an Armagh supporter and a lifelong member of the 'glass half empty brigade', your post articulated a lot of my fears ahead of this match.

This is as a good draw for Armagh (as it was for Galway) but too many are conflating a good draw with an easy draw and this match is not that. I would guess that Galway are - by some distance - the best team we will have played in the Championship this year and will represent a formidable obstacle for us.

When did Armagh last put in a performance three times in a row against decent teams?

That's the concern I was raising. And the first 2 wins were against decent teams but on the back of a bad loss themselves. Thing is though, those streaks are made for breaking, so no reason it can't happen this weekend.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on June 23, 2022, 11:21:14 AM
The Galway Croke Park thing is overplayed a bit. In the last 10 years they've played there 7 times. A 1-6 record looks crap on the face of it but only once were they favourites and they were rank outsiders for 5 of them. Played Cork and Donegal soon after those two were competing in finals and Galway were in the doldrums. Lost two and won 1 v Kerry which is a decent return for most counties. Lost to Mayo last year after running out of steam and multiple injuries after an excellent first half. A great second half display from mayo on that on etbf. The one real black mark was a loss to Tipperary. In hindsight that team wasn't near the level required

The Corofin lads have spent their club careers running amok in Croker. About 8 panel members won an u20 All Ireland v Dublin there two years back. Others have won underage AI's there also. I don't think the venue will be an excuse
There should be no excuses now full stop. The days of no shows and flat performances at this level arenít going to cut it. I still have worries about this Galway team particularly around the kick outs, itís hard to imagine that we can continue to come a distant second best on restarts at both ends and prevail now that the business end has arrived. Our score conversion rate has improved and has been generally excellent this year - obviously that has must continue. I donít know what way this game is going to go on Sunday, thereís no recent familiarity between the teams at all, Galway canít be trusted at this stage of the championship yet, a complete disappointment, a really good display or anything at all in between wouldnít shock me. Armagh could be the real coming force that they are being talked up as, they may not be, we donít know really.
If these Galway lads want to do something major then this Sunday is the opportunity, they need to show up, play well, take every chance they get and make Armagh earn every score. If Galway play well but still lose because Armagh are the better team after that then there will be no complaints and nothing to say bar best of luck to them going forward.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: imtommygunn on June 23, 2022, 11:31:55 AM
On a point or two you make yes it is hard to know with either of these teams whether it's hype or whether they are the real deal. The good thing with this game is you just don't know what you're going to get.

There are some fantastic forwards on view and I am really looking forward to it. I am not sure I'll even watch some of the rest of them.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Armagh18 on June 23, 2022, 12:16:17 PM
The Galway Croke Park thing is overplayed a bit. In the last 10 years they've played there 7 times. A 1-6 record looks crap on the face of it but only once were they favourites and they were rank outsiders for 5 of them. Played Cork and Donegal soon after those two were competing in finals and Galway were in the doldrums. Lost two and won 1 v Kerry which is a decent return for most counties. Lost to Mayo last year after running out of steam and multiple injuries after an excellent first half. A great second half display from mayo on that on etbf. The one real black mark was a loss to Tipperary. In hindsight that team wasn't near the level required

The Corofin lads have spent their club careers running amok in Croker. About 8 panel members won an u20 All Ireland v Dublin there two years back. Others have won underage AI's there also. I don't think the venue will be an excuse
There should be no excuses now full stop. The days of no shows and flat performances at this level arenít going to cut it. I still have worries about this Galway team particularly around the kick outs, itís hard to imagine that we can continue to come a distant second best on restarts at both ends and prevail now that the business end has arrived. Our score conversion rate has improved and has been generally excellent this year - obviously that has must continue. I donít know what way this game is going to go on Sunday, thereís no recent familiarity between the teams at all, Galway canít be trusted at this stage of the championship yet, a complete disappointment, a really good display or anything at all in between wouldnít shock me. Armagh could be the real coming force that they are being talked up as, they may not be, we donít know really.
If these Galway lads want to do something major then this Sunday is the opportunity, they need to show up, play well, take every chance they get and make Armagh earn every score. If Galway play well but still lose because Armagh are the better team after that then there will be no complaints and nothing to say bar best of luck to them going forward.
Iíd say I could swap Armaghs name for Galways in that post and the same would be true in reverse. 2 sides that have underperformed for too long- both have plenty of super players, both big name managers who are absolute icons from their playing days. Bolded is very true, if weíre beat by the better team then weíll say well done and best of luck for the rest of the year, but we need to put in a huge performance. 
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Throw It Up Ref on June 23, 2022, 12:42:03 PM
As a Tyrone man dare I say I'm backing (and slightly hoping) our neighbours to do the business on Sunday.

To me both teams have have had the makings of a side that could challenge the top teams for a few years now but have been struggling to put the puzzle together. They seem to have both found the balance they were looking for. It could be a cracking game.

The momentum and support Armagh have will be enough to get them over the line. Their confidence will be sky high and they'll genuinely go into this All-Ireland series believing they can beat anyone and that alone can often be enough to transform players.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Taylor on June 23, 2022, 01:10:31 PM
The biggest issue for the orange men is winning the midfield battle.

I have not been impressed with them to date and think Galway are far superior in that department.

However I dont think think Galways defence will be able to hold the Armagh forwards if they are on form.

Narrow win for Armagh
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Armagh2022 on June 23, 2022, 01:50:38 PM
The Galway Croke Park thing is overplayed a bit. In the last 10 years they've played there 7 times. A 1-6 record looks crap on the face of it but only once were they favourites and they were rank outsiders for 5 of them. Played Cork and Donegal soon after those two were competing in finals and Galway were in the doldrums. Lost two and won 1 v Kerry which is a decent return for most counties. Lost to Mayo last year after running out of steam and multiple injuries after an excellent first half. A great second half display from mayo on that on etbf. The one real black mark was a loss to Tipperary. In hindsight that team wasn't near the level required

The Corofin lads have spent their club careers running amok in Croker. About 8 panel members won an u20 All Ireland v Dublin there two years back. Others have won underage AI's there also. I don't think the venue will be an excuse

Even lost to Roscommon this year there and it was unexpected.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Armagh2022 on June 23, 2022, 02:02:53 PM
As a Tyrone man dare I say I'm backing (and slightly hoping) our neighbours to do the business on Sunday.

To me both teams have have had the makings of a side that could challenge the top teams for a few years now but have been struggling to put the puzzle together. They seem to have both found the balance they were looking for. It could be a cracking game.

The momentum and support Armagh have will be enough to get them over the line. Their confidence will be sky high and they'll genuinely go into this All-Ireland series believing they can beat anyone and that alone can often be enough to transform players.


Yous Tyrone sh*tbags are setting us up for a fall i reckon ;) Niall Morgan and now you lol
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Orior on June 23, 2022, 02:35:35 PM
Not sure what to make of this match. Armagh are being bigged up a bit more than they should be imo. Don't get me wrong, good wins against (albeit terrible defending champions) Tyrone, and then a Donegal team, that even looking out of sorts, were fit to get back into the game and lead despite the bad start. The black card and penalty turned the game and then were able to coast after that. I'm just not sold on Armagh yet. For years they were fit to do it in league, but looked poor come summer when it mattered. They'll have huge momentum with their run, but really think a Galway team with good confidence, forwards in form, will be a very different thing than what they've seen this summer. It's a very different beast they'll be facing. I just think they flatter to deceive a lot. And with Rian O'Neill, a great player, but can go from the hottest of hot to the coldest of cold from one day to the next. If he has an off day, I don't see where Armagh get enough scores from. Think Galway are solid, playing well, and have 3 to 4 forward that need to be wrapped up, and can't see this being done to all of them so scores might come a bit easier to them. It'll be a battle and we'll see how Armagh go then, but I'd take Galway by 3.

I really, really hope you are wrong on that, but I don't mind telling you as an Armagh supporter and a lifelong member of the 'glass half empty brigade', your post articulated a lot of my fears ahead of this match.

This is as a good draw for Armagh (as it was for Galway) but too many are conflating a good draw with an easy draw and this match is not that. I would guess that Galway are - by some distance - the best team we will have played in the Championship this year and will represent a formidable obstacle for us.

When did Armagh last put in a performance three times in a row against decent teams?

The past is passed. Armagh are about to start a run of three great performances :-)
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Applesisapples on June 23, 2022, 03:26:29 PM
You would think Armagh should be able to win this one, but you really don't know which team will turn up, Donegal 1.01 or 1.02.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: balladmaker on June 23, 2022, 04:57:41 PM
Only ask for Armagh is to bring the intensity to it like last two games, empty the tank on the field and see where it takes them after that.  I'm sure Galway folk will have the same ask.

Really looking forward to it ... might not be the classic everyone expects, but defo has the potential.

It's a massive opportunity for whoever get's over the line.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: illdecide on June 24, 2022, 10:36:20 AM
Looks like it's gonna be a wet game, Sunday's weather is rain so what impact if any will this have on either team?. It's gonna be wet for both teams so there'll be no excuses, whoever adopts to the conditions better will probably win the game. It would be great to win as the buzz around the place is amazing, the kids and families that are going to the game is great so another day out for them to remember would sit just nice but unfortunately someone has to lose and whoever it it that's life and tough.

May the best team win and hope it's a spectacle for all...genuinely i expect two great games on Sunday...Armagh by 2pts and Mayo by 1pt
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Armamike on June 24, 2022, 10:50:01 AM
Shame about the weather if the forecast is accurate. Croke Park in the sunshine would have been nice!

Feeling a bit of trepidation about this game.  We've received a fair share of plaudits on the back of the last 2 performances.  It wasn't too long ago that our performances were as mixed as the weather.  I hope we can keep the momentum going but the team still have a bit to prove.  Galway are a dangerous opponent, fresh and hungry so offer a very different threat to Tyrone and Donegal who both carried a bit of baggage.  No idea how this one will go. 

Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: naka on June 24, 2022, 11:46:48 AM
Every man and his dog heading from south Armagh on Sunday, letís enjoy the spectacle.
Think we will win but it will be close
We need to back this team to the hilt
We have momentum letís keep it going !
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: tonto1888 on June 24, 2022, 11:52:22 AM
Ive changed my mind in relation who will win about 100 times. We have the ability to win but so do Galway. Its a clichť but it could wee come down to who wants it most on the day.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: galwayman on June 24, 2022, 01:18:25 PM
Slightly off topic... where in Dublin (city centre-ish) would ye recommend as a decent spot to watch the two Saturday quarter finals?
Have a work thing on Saturday morning but will be finished in time to watch the games.
Cheers
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: yellowcard on June 24, 2022, 01:25:12 PM
The biggest issue facing us now is the level of expectation in the county and how we manage the occasion on Sunday. The last 2 matches we weren't widely tipped to come through but listening to pundits this week most of them seem to be predicting us to win. The fans can get carried away all they want, that doesn't bother me one bit but hopefully the players are able to deal with this and insulate themselves a little, since the sense of excitement has gone up a few levels for this match. It feels like its Armaghs biggest game since 2005 in terms of supporter anticipation anyway.

If they can manage all of that I'd be confident that we can get the job done in a close run game but wary that Galway are capable of producing absolutely anything as well. 
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: armaghniac on June 24, 2022, 01:58:04 PM
Every man and his dog heading from south Armagh on Sunday, letís enjoy the spectacle.

Armagh may have more supporters than Dublin this weekend.
But I suppose when we have won 6 in a row the interest will fall off too.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Captain Scarlet on June 24, 2022, 02:36:49 PM
Slightly off topic... where in Dublin (city centre-ish) would ye recommend as a decent spot to watch the two Saturday quarter finals?
Have a work thing on Saturday morning but will be finished in time to watch the games.
Cheers

Depends if you are Northside or Southside really.

Briodys and Pipers Corner are good GAA spots just on the Luas lines are good.
Just over the river Mulligans, The Swan and the Palace would have them on too. All nice Guinness too!

On the game it seems the general theme is that the fans don't really trusts their own teams. I hope the weather holds a bit and it doesn't lash down. As a neutral it should be tasty!
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: seafoid on June 24, 2022, 03:34:03 PM
Colm O'Rourke. https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2022/0624/1306632-colm-orourkes-all-ireland-sfc-quarter-final-picks/
Galway v Armagh, Sunday, 1.45pm at Croke Park

Evenly matched, the clash of Galway and Armagh promises to be the game of the weekend.

Armagh are the real form team coming in after big wins over both Tyrone and Donegal. The latter game showcased an exciting brand of football that will attract the neutrals.

Galway were a bit similar, with their gung-ho wins, but they had a very structured defensive pattern in place in their Connacht final win over Roscommon.

I think Armagh may have the edge here.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: LCohen on June 24, 2022, 03:41:30 PM
The biggest issue facing us now is the level of expectation in the county and how we manage the occasion on Sunday. The last 2 matches we weren't widely tipped to come through but listening to pundits this week most of them seem to be predicting us to win. The fans can get carried away all they want, that doesn't bother me one bit but hopefully the players are able to deal with this and insulate themselves a little, since the sense of excitement has gone up a few levels for this match. It feels like its Armaghs biggest game since 2005 in terms of supporter anticipation anyway.

If they can manage all of that I'd be confident that we can get the job done in a close run game but wary that Galway are capable of producing absolutely anything as well.

There is a band of Armagh fans who think that promotion to Division 1 was a bad idea and would set the team back. And there is a band who think that excitement and expectation are the same thing.

This is the business end of the season. With the game comes pressure. Handling the pressure is part of the game. Good players are ones who have the full package of skill, fitness, commitment, game intelligence and temperament in all its many forms. If we are good or want to be good we need to show we can handle the big occasions. I think we are good and that there are bigger occasions (this year or the near future) than an AI q/f. Mental preparation is key. But thats what management is there for.

Quietly confident. Only quietly mind you.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 24, 2022, 04:01:04 PM
Hard game to call, might require extra time to separate the two, hopefully the dreaded penalty shootout isn't how one side makes its exit from this championship.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: seafoid on June 24, 2022, 04:59:57 PM
Surely Geezer is a liability for Armagh
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Cunny Funt on June 24, 2022, 05:16:24 PM
Surely Geezer is a liability for Armagh
Simliar could be said for Joyce with Galway. Both have surrounded themselves with what appears to be decent management teams.

Galways one and only championship win in Croke Park since 2001 was in lashing rain. Same weather forecast for Sunday and good omen for Galway?
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Armagh18 on June 24, 2022, 05:26:25 PM
Best parking spots handy to Croker?
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: LCohen on June 24, 2022, 05:43:04 PM
This
Surely Geezer is a liability for Armagh
And this
Armagh are a force of social contagion
From the poster who writes this
If the match was decided on the basis of GAAboard posts, Armagh would be unbackable.
Is this an educational standards issue?
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: illdecide on June 24, 2022, 07:16:15 PM
Apparently the Portadown bonfire was lit prematurely on them last night or the night before and a few Portydown ones have been saying "I hope the Armagh fans enjoy their game" whatever they mean from that. If any of you from North Armagh are going to the game keep flags etc from your cars until you pass thru that Cesspit and alos be careful on the trains too that they don't pelt the trains with stones etc...I'm on the train myself but have the car on standby just in case...

2022 and the fact i'm typing this sh1t is unbelievable
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: David McKeown on June 24, 2022, 07:48:36 PM
This is too close to call me for me. Armagh have played 12 matches against Division 1 sides (as they were at the start of the year) and I think Galway have played 2. Will that make a difference? Will the 4 week break help or hinder Galway?   Who knows. I think the issue might be Armaghs consistency or lack thereof.  At times they have looked brilliant this year but at others theyíve looked really ordinary. They will need something closer to the former this weekend.  Anything can happen this weekend and it like the rest of the season before reminds me of why I love our games. I just wish we had a whole summer of this to look forward to.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: seafoid on June 24, 2022, 08:12:24 PM
This
Surely Geezer is a liability for Armagh
And this
Armagh are a force of social contagion
From the poster who writes this
If the match was decided on the basis of GAAboard posts, Armagh would be unbackable.
Is this an educational standards issue?
Geezer was manager of Kildare in 2011 when they lost to Donegal.
https://youtu.be/xKZNP5Qrnfc
Donegal went on to win the all Ireland the following year.
There is great excitement in Armagh this year after years of mediocrity. I honestly do think Geezer is a weakness. Maybe he won't be exposed at this level.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Blowitupref on June 24, 2022, 08:52:30 PM
This
Surely Geezer is a liability for Armagh
And this
Armagh are a force of social contagion
From the poster who writes this
If the match was decided on the basis of GAAboard posts, Armagh would be unbackable.
Is this an educational standards issue?
Geezer was manager of Kildare in 2011 when they lost to Donegal.
https://youtu.be/xKZNP5Qrnfc
Donegal went on to win the all Ireland the following year.
There is great excitement in Armagh this year after years of mediocrity. I honestly do think Geezer is a weakness. Maybe he won't be exposed at this level.

Were you expecting Kildare to win the All Ireland back then? from what i remember Kieran McGeeney got the best out of that Kildare team and lost a few closely contested battles including that one you have linked.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Blowitupref on June 24, 2022, 09:37:08 PM
Galway unchanged team published.


Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: OrchardOrange on June 24, 2022, 10:36:23 PM
I'm worried. We always shit the togs in Croker. Hope I'm wrong. AFS2022!
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: armaghniac on June 24, 2022, 10:52:01 PM
I'm worried. We always shit the togs in Croker. Hope I'm wrong. AFS2022!

Are you from Galway. Armagh's last game in Croker in January was actually rather good.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: OrchardOrange on June 24, 2022, 10:59:25 PM
I'm worried. We always shit the togs in Croker. Hope I'm wrong. AFS2022!

Are you from Galway. Armagh's last game in Croker in January was actually rather good.

Yep. Great league performance. Hope that stands to us.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: balladmaker on June 25, 2022, 09:10:47 AM
Apparently the Portadown bonfire was lit prematurely on them last night or the night before and a few Portydown ones have been saying "I hope the Armagh fans enjoy their game" whatever they mean from that. If any of you from North Armagh are going to the game keep flags etc from your cars until you pass thru that Cesspit and alos be careful on the trains too that they don't pelt the trains with stones etc...I'm on the train myself but have the car on standby just in case...

2022 and the fact i'm typing this sh1t is unbelievable

I just hope rumours of planned disruption to the train line are only just that and donít come to pass.  As you say, Iíve the car in standby as well at the first sign of any bother, but hopefully not.  Shouldnít even be a conversation to be had in 2022.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 25, 2022, 12:18:51 PM
Sorta coming away from my previous predictions.. Galway must be loving the hype Armagh are getting..

If Armagh were playing Mayo as Connaught champions would they be as confident?
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: armaghniac on June 25, 2022, 01:07:51 PM
Sorta coming away from my previous predictions.. Galway must be loving the hype Armagh are getting..

If Armagh were playing Mayo as Connaught champions would they be as confident?

No. Mayo are proven performers in Croke Park. Galway, like Armagh, haven't been in Croke Park that much. Armagh is just glad to be there, which does not show any lack of regard for Galway.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 25, 2022, 01:20:06 PM
Galway have won an All Ireland Mayo havenít in the past decades..

Joyce will have set them up rightly might back the draw on this
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Farrandeelin on June 25, 2022, 01:23:35 PM
Sorta coming away from my previous predictions.. Galway must be loving the hype Armagh are getting..

If Armagh were playing Mayo as Connaught champions would they be as confident?

They would be.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: armaghniac on June 25, 2022, 02:17:34 PM
Galway have won an All Ireland Mayo havenít in the past decades..

Armagh have won an All Ireland after Galway, so I am not sure that is a convincing difference.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: illdecide on June 25, 2022, 02:50:44 PM
I think a lot of people are confusing Armagh's joy of winning a few matches back to back and getting a run out in Croke Park with cockiness and disregard for their opponents Galway. Bar a few kids (without sounding sexist and a few females too) majority of us know this is a tough game that can go either way and we'll have to be firing on all cylinders to win this. The thing that has the juices flowing for people is knowing the side of the draw we're on (Derry, Clare, Armagh & Galway) and winning your quarter final is a massive chance to get to an All Ireland Final (all 4 teams are secretly thinking that).
The match ups for the big players and probably the Ref will be massive in this game...every time i think it over in my head i change my mind on who will win and by how many...I'm just going to Croke Park to enjoy the game and whatever the result i'll enjoy my day (if i can stay outta the rain) and if Armagh win...GREAT. If Galway win we'll wish them the best of luck for their Semi...Enjoy the game guys...
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 25, 2022, 03:41:43 PM
Galway have won an All Ireland Mayo havenít in the past decades..

Armagh have won an All Ireland after Galway, so I am not sure that is a convincing difference.

Youíd mentioned Mayoís being big players at Croke..
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: seafoid on June 25, 2022, 04:38:32 PM
Sorta coming away from my previous predictions.. Galway must be loving the hype Armagh are getting..

If Armagh were playing Mayo as Connaught champions would they be as confident?
Mayo have been playing at the highest level for a decade. They are a known quantity.
Galway aren't.  We don't know what level they are at. It could be a feast or a famine.
On the GAAboard it's the only match where predictions are split down the middle.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: armaghniac on June 25, 2022, 04:43:19 PM
Sorta coming away from my previous predictions.. Galway must be loving the hype Armagh are getting..

If Armagh were playing Mayo as Connaught champions would they be as confident?
Mayo have been playing at the highest level for a decade. They are a known quantity.
Galway aren't.  We don't know what level they are at. It could be a feast or a famine.
On the GAAboard it's the only match where predictions are split down the middle.

It isn't every day I agree with Seafoid, but that is about it.

It seems the winners will be playing Derry anyway.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: clarshack on June 25, 2022, 04:58:29 PM
Looking at the Derry game here and the standard of Ulster football Armagh will win tomorrow pulling up.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: From the Bunker on June 25, 2022, 05:01:30 PM
Looking at the Derry game here and the standard of Ulster football Armagh will win tomorrow pulling up.

Based on what?
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Blowitupref on June 25, 2022, 05:09:51 PM
Looking at the Derry game here and the standard of Ulster football Armagh will win tomorrow pulling up.

I doubt Galway will be caught like a rabbit in the headlights like Clare today.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: galwayman on June 25, 2022, 05:14:55 PM
Looking at the Derry game here and the standard of Ulster football Armagh will win tomorrow pulling up.

I doubt Galway will be caught like a rabbit in the headlights like Clare today.
No idea how we will do tomorrow but in all honesty Clare are a really average team.
Was anyone really surprised by this result today?
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: seafoid on June 25, 2022, 06:24:18 PM
A grandson of the late Dominic McGlinchey, former chief of staff of the INLA, was on the Galway minor team that beat Derry today  .
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: seafoid on June 25, 2022, 06:27:03 PM
Looking at the Derry game here and the standard of Ulster football Armagh will win tomorrow pulling up.

I doubt Galway will be caught like a rabbit in the headlights like Clare today.
The problem the Super 8s had was that there weren't 8 super teams in the country. There still isn't. 
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: From the Bunker on June 25, 2022, 06:31:28 PM
Looking at the Derry game here and the standard of Ulster football Armagh will win tomorrow pulling up.

I doubt Galway will be caught like a rabbit in the headlights like Clare today.
The problem the Super 8s had was that there weren't 8 super teams in the country. There still isn't.

...... and never has been in the history of the GAA.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: bennydorano on June 25, 2022, 07:19:27 PM
First 15 minutes going to be huge, think if either team gets a good start they'll be hard pulled back. The pessimist in me always errs on the side of caution so not full of confidence.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: seafoid on June 25, 2022, 07:52:51 PM
Looking at the Derry game here and the standard of Ulster football Armagh will win tomorrow pulling up.

I doubt Galway will be caught like a rabbit in the headlights like Clare today.
The problem the Super 8s had was that there weren't 8 super teams in the country. There still isn't.

...... and never has been in the history of the GAA.
Not even 6
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: From the Bunker on June 25, 2022, 08:01:57 PM
Looking at the Derry game here and the standard of Ulster football Armagh will win tomorrow pulling up.

I doubt Galway will be caught like a rabbit in the headlights like Clare today.
The problem the Super 8s had was that there weren't 8 super teams in the country. There still isn't.


...... and never has been in the history of the GAA.
Not even 6

Around the early '90's Circa 1988 to 1993 - Cork, Meath, Donegal, Derry, Down and Dublin
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: smelmoth on June 25, 2022, 08:21:41 PM
A grandson of the late Dominic McGlinchey, former chief of staff of the INLA, was on the Galway minor team that beat Derry today  .
We are a community sport. There will always be links to all parts of the community including psychotic assholes
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on June 25, 2022, 08:36:55 PM
Oooh look. An internet tough guy 😃
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on June 25, 2022, 08:58:30 PM
A grandson of the late Dominic McGlinchey, former chief of staff of the INLA, was on the Galway minor team that beat Derry today  .
We are a community sport. There will always be links to all parts of the community including psychotic assholes

Father has a gym in Galway. Sound lad.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: marty34 on June 25, 2022, 09:12:43 PM
A grandson of the late Dominic McGlinchey, former chief of staff of the INLA, was on the Galway minor team that beat Derry today  .
We are a community sport. There will always be links to all parts of the community including psychotic assholes

Father has a gym in Galway. Sound lad.

Great people and a great family.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Armagh18 on June 26, 2022, 07:44:41 AM
Looking at the Derry game here and the standard of Ulster football Armagh will win tomorrow pulling up.

I doubt Galway will be caught like a rabbit in the headlights like Clare today.
The problem the Super 8s had was that there weren't 8 super teams in the country. There still isn't.
Dublin Kerry Mayo, Derry Galway Armagh, Tyrone, Monaghan Donegal maybe the Rossies- itís a shite format but the teams are there if the draw is kind. Cork amd Clare got lucky draws theyíd no placr being in QF
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: seafoid on June 26, 2022, 09:58:23 AM
Today's match could be the start of a series over the next few years.  Same for the semi.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: greatpoint on June 26, 2022, 01:50:19 PM
Today's match could be the start of a series over the next few years.  Same for the semi.

Both teams are far too flakey to be saying something like that
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Chimley on June 26, 2022, 01:59:56 PM
Comer looks a bit shook since that clash with the Armagh keeper.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: onefineday on June 26, 2022, 02:02:09 PM
Who has wind this half or is it a factor?
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Nanderson on June 26, 2022, 02:06:30 PM
Who has wind this half or is it a factor?
commentary said armagh
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Hound on June 26, 2022, 02:15:01 PM
Rafferty very lucky to get away with that
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Mourne Red on June 26, 2022, 02:17:25 PM
Jesus shocking to give a free for that
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: From the Bunker on June 26, 2022, 02:19:16 PM
Jesus shocking to give a free for that

Worse still it was called by the linesman!
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 26, 2022, 02:20:15 PM
Armagh well on top, because Galway are not marking certain players. That long ball fball from both teams would be well eat up by Dublin.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 26, 2022, 02:22:38 PM
Armagh winning Midfield both kickouts, strange given the height Galway got around the middle. Galway on top past 15mins.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: J70 on June 26, 2022, 02:25:51 PM
Good game. Armagh played some lovely stuff, but Galway have got to grips with it in the last ten minutes.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 26, 2022, 02:45:28 PM
Finnerty starting to cause problems, Walsh non-existent at the minute.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 26, 2022, 02:47:36 PM
Big push on there by Galway.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 26, 2022, 02:48:32 PM
Stupidist yellow card ever, what an idiot.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: imtommygunn on June 26, 2022, 02:52:47 PM
Armagh just that wee bit too slack marking wise at the back.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Harold Disgracey on June 26, 2022, 02:54:51 PM
We have reverted back to Ballybofey tactics! Galway lying down any time we get a bit of momentum.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 26, 2022, 02:57:39 PM
Galway starting to edge Midfield on break ball, Campbell keeping Armagh in it. Comer, Walsh, Conroy, O'Neill, all the stars are all fairly quite.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: imtommygunn on June 26, 2022, 02:58:13 PM
Any Armagh score Galway man goes down.

Campbell is good. Galway, unfortunately, seem just that bit better.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 26, 2022, 03:00:20 PM
Armagh corner bck lucky not to see the line there after that stupidity, total blindside, even though it was only a shoulder.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: tyrone08 on June 26, 2022, 03:00:54 PM
Armagh corner bck lucky not to see the line there after that stupidity, total blindside, even though it was only a shoulder.

Dirty dirty play.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: J70 on June 26, 2022, 03:03:08 PM
Cheap shot
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: tyroneman on June 26, 2022, 03:05:59 PM
Thought Morgan had cut that cr@p out this year....obv not
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: imtommygunn on June 26, 2022, 03:08:53 PM
Ffs. Thatís a disgraceful decision.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Mourne Red on June 26, 2022, 03:09:11 PM
Terrible reffing, not a red
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: screenexile on June 26, 2022, 03:09:22 PM
Itís dangerous play he connected with the head Ö straight red!!
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 26, 2022, 03:09:30 PM
That's a yellow, not a red, he was late. OK on replay its seems he hit hit square on shoulder/ elbow, still harsh.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: tyrone08 on June 26, 2022, 03:09:57 PM
Ffs. Thatís a disgraceful decision.

No way. It was a very dangerous challenge. Yes he was going for a shoulder but he missed it and ended up as a frontal challenge.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Nanderson on June 26, 2022, 03:11:46 PM
Think the blood swayed the decision. The shoulder was frontal but didnt look like it caught him high. The head to head contact was accidental and thats what caused the blood.

On replay showed there he did catch him in the lower jaw
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Blowitupref on June 26, 2022, 03:11:57 PM
That sending off could prove to be the games turning point. 64 mins played Galway 1-14 to 0-13 ahead.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: gerrykeegan on June 26, 2022, 03:12:06 PM
Ref got it right. Straight red
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 26, 2022, 03:12:47 PM
Somebody got send of that maybe 2 yrs ago, was Mooney of Down involved?. Reality is, Morgan probably should been on the line at this stage. Rory Gugan great first half, very poor 2nd half.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: screenexile on June 26, 2022, 03:13:01 PM
Think the blood swayed the decision. The shoulder was frontal but didnt look like it caught him high. The head to head contact was accidental and thats what caused the blood

MaybeÖ would like to see it again from a better angle but if you go in recklessly and cause a head injury I think it should be a red.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 26, 2022, 03:13:22 PM
Looking very bad on a replay from another angle.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Mourne Red on June 26, 2022, 03:13:30 PM
Just seen the most recent replay.. yep was a red, real time didnít look it but that replay they showed it was
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: onefineday on June 26, 2022, 03:14:01 PM
That's a yellow, not a red, he was late. OK on replay its seems he hit hit square on shoulder/ elbow, still harsh.

Identical to the tackle on Eoghan McLaughlin tackle by Small last year - straight red all day long.

Plus, Jarly og should have got black for the trip immediately afterwards.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Hound on June 26, 2022, 03:14:03 PM
Armagh have time to get points. Should be plenty of added time, but they are going looking for goals.
Although a moot point if Galway keep winning the ball
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: thewobbler on June 26, 2022, 03:14:48 PM
Unless a duty of care when tackling is implied in the rule book (and I donít think it is) then thatís not even a booking let alone a red card.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: imtommygunn on June 26, 2022, 03:14:57 PM
Game is over unfortunately.

Galway be hard beat.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: screenexile on June 26, 2022, 03:15:10 PM
That's a yellow, not a red, he was late. OK on replay its seems he hit hit square on shoulder/ elbow, still harsh.

Identical to the tackle on Eoghan McLaughlin tackle by Small last year - straight red all day long.

Plus, Jarly og should have got black for the trip immediately afterwards.

Nah I donít think it was.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: OrchardOrange on June 26, 2022, 03:15:31 PM
Geezer clueless in croker again. ::) Should resign after the match
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: mrdeeds on June 26, 2022, 03:15:54 PM
That's a yellow, not a red, he was late. OK on replay its seems he hit hit square on shoulder/ elbow, still harsh.

Identical to the tackle on Eoghan McLaughlin tackle by Small last year - straight red all day long.

Plus, Jarly og should have got black for the trip immediately afterwards.

Trip accidental, just bet by speed and skills.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: J70 on June 26, 2022, 03:15:59 PM
Ref got it right. Reckless, dangerous challenge.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: mrdeeds on June 26, 2022, 03:16:37 PM
Armagh have time to get points. Should be plenty of added time, but they are going looking for goals.

They've spent day fisting over bar when goals on. Opposite of Derry.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Harold Disgracey on June 26, 2022, 03:17:13 PM
Getting exactly what we deserve, too negative. Hopefully the end of McGeeney.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: imtommygunn on June 26, 2022, 03:18:31 PM
Conroy has went down in my estimations there. Shocking play acting.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: thewobbler on June 26, 2022, 03:18:40 PM
I donít think Armagh are negative so much as getting destroyed at midfield.

Goal armagh.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: lenny on June 26, 2022, 03:18:52 PM
Ref got it right. Reckless, dangerous challenge.

Looked very harsh. Need to see it again.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: tyrone08 on June 26, 2022, 03:19:15 PM
Doesn't take Armagh g long to revert to type. Thugs
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 26, 2022, 03:19:38 PM
Armagh losing the rag abit tackle wise.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: imtommygunn on June 26, 2022, 03:19:51 PM
I donít think Armagh are negative so much as getting destroyed at midfield.

Goal armagh.

Galway are just better in reality.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: marty34 on June 26, 2022, 03:20:36 PM
Terrible reffing, not a red

Clear red. Shocking.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: J70 on June 26, 2022, 03:20:56 PM
WTF was OíNeill at?
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 26, 2022, 03:21:32 PM
Walsh should got a yellow there.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: screenexile on June 26, 2022, 03:22:14 PM
Jesus lads!!
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: From the Bunker on June 26, 2022, 03:22:55 PM
Galway keeper need shooting!
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: imtommygunn on June 26, 2022, 03:24:01 PM
Armagh definitely need work on their discipline but Galway at a while bit of play acting too.

That was not a free out.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: onefineday on June 26, 2022, 03:24:20 PM
Conroy has went down in my estimations there. Shocking play acting.
looked like a finger in the eye (accidental though).
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: thewobbler on June 26, 2022, 03:25:25 PM
I do enjoy how after 30 years of coaches trying to ruin football, a long ball into the corridor of uncertainty is still such a brilliant tactic. 
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 26, 2022, 03:25:54 PM
It was a free out!
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: imtommygunn on June 26, 2022, 03:26:30 PM
Big balls here.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: imtommygunn on June 26, 2022, 03:27:04 PM
Jesus
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: screenexile on June 26, 2022, 03:27:16 PM
What a game of football lads!
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 26, 2022, 03:28:03 PM
Armagh in a row, surprise surprise
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Mourne Red on June 26, 2022, 03:28:06 PM
Galway acting c***ts there.. Hopefully Armagh kick the f**k out of them in extra time
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: From the Bunker on June 26, 2022, 03:28:14 PM
Jez, Galway sh1te the bed there!
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Eire90 on June 26, 2022, 03:28:21 PM
disgraceful scenes
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: imtommygunn on June 26, 2022, 03:28:35 PM
Comer is a p***k but someone was gouging at his eyes there.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Estimator on June 26, 2022, 03:28:46 PM
Bit of eye gouging!!
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: High Fielder on June 26, 2022, 03:29:09 PM
Armagh sub hefty ban. tr**p
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 26, 2022, 03:29:38 PM
Who is the dirty tr**p in the body warmer had his hands in the eyes?
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: clarshack on June 26, 2022, 03:29:53 PM
Armagh have been thuggish all game.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: screenexile on June 26, 2022, 03:30:19 PM
Who is the dirty tr**p in the body warmer had his hands in the eyes?

He had a punch wound up before he went out of shot just after that as well!!
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: thewobbler on June 26, 2022, 03:30:32 PM
I can make a case for most things happening due to the heat of the moment. But gouging. No. Gouging is the act of a complete ****. Should be a 12 month ban minimum. Disgraceful.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Eire90 on June 26, 2022, 03:30:43 PM
Who is the dirty tr**p in the body warmer had his hands in the eyes?

probably a hanger on
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Mourne Red on June 26, 2022, 03:30:50 PM
Armagh have been thuggish all game.

Aye it was the Armagh keeper that went into Comer twice trying to kick the ball outÖ away on sir
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Shamrock Shore on June 26, 2022, 03:31:18 PM
Absolutely disgraceful. That gouging gouger should be banned for life.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 26, 2022, 03:31:22 PM
f**k me, Galway had the ball in the corner and then let a loose pass go!
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: screenexile on June 26, 2022, 03:31:49 PM
What the f**k was Shane Walsh at??

The mind boggles!
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: marty34 on June 26, 2022, 03:32:00 PM
Bit of eye gouging!!

Seems to be.

If so, sc**bag should get a good long ban.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Blowitupref on June 26, 2022, 03:32:03 PM
Some drama, the one worry Galway supporters had was towards Gleeson in goal he was Armagh way back into the game but so poor that Galway didn't close that game out when in total control of it and man advantage.

Will be suspensions with those scenes at full time.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 26, 2022, 03:32:17 PM
Galway by far the better team in the 2nd Half, how Armagh finished level I never know.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: trileacman on June 26, 2022, 03:32:21 PM
Expect 4 Tyrone men to be sent off in the 2nd half.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: onefineday on June 26, 2022, 03:32:25 PM
Armagh have been thuggish all game.

certainly been pretty thuggish the last 20 mins when it looked like they were gone.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Chimley on June 26, 2022, 03:32:31 PM
Who is the dirty tr**p in the body warmer had his hands in the eyes?

Comer is certainly no saint but that tr**p needs a very long ban whoever he is.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: imtommygunn on June 26, 2022, 03:32:47 PM
There was an Armagh boy in a body warmer there who will be in big trouble.

Honestly think comer provoked a lot there but gouging etc. Not good.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Rudi on June 26, 2022, 03:33:10 PM
Flaky Galway, goalkeeper awful. As regards thuggish behaviour from Armagh, what do people expect, a dog barks & all that.
Very entertaining all the same. Rian O Neill take a bow for holding nerve.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Estimator on June 26, 2022, 03:33:24 PM
Shocking game management from Galway.
That cross field pass from Walsh was ridiculous, in the last minute, from a player of his experience.

There'll be a few lads looking a representation before the semi-final.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Loughshore2022 on June 26, 2022, 03:33:52 PM
O'Neill deserves the Sam Maguire given to him for kicking that point under that pressure.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Eire90 on June 26, 2022, 03:34:07 PM
galway threw it away should have kept it in corner
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 26, 2022, 03:34:27 PM
The goalkeeper passed the ball out blind with a Galway defender standing beside him.,but the reason Galway haven't won th, is Walsh cross field pass that went nowhere near the player.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: J70 on June 26, 2022, 03:34:38 PM
Shocking game management from Galway.
That cross field pass from Walsh was ridiculous, in the last minute, from a player of his experience.

There'll be a few lads looking a representation before the semi-final.

And each one of them will get off.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: screenexile on June 26, 2022, 03:34:50 PM
Fergal Logan will still have a say in this Championship yet!!
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: clarshack on June 26, 2022, 03:35:19 PM
If there is any consistency then there be loads of red cards for contributing to a melee when both teams come out.

Derry are the big winners here.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Rudi on June 26, 2022, 03:35:35 PM
Galway just did a Roscommon on it, very similar flaky teams.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: J70 on June 26, 2022, 03:35:48 PM
O'Neill deserves the Sam Maguire given to him for kicking that point under that pressure.

Think the ref let him away with a few sneaky yards.

Great kick all the same.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Eire90 on June 26, 2022, 03:36:09 PM
spillane tight
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: imtommygunn on June 26, 2022, 03:36:17 PM
Who was that guy gouging? Not even togged. Bad rip whoever he is.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: screenexile on June 26, 2022, 03:36:55 PM
Spillane about to have a coronary here!!
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: marty34 on June 26, 2022, 03:37:11 PM
There'll be some clean up of 'hanger-ons' now...hopefully.

Clear the side-line.

Would cut all this out.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: RedHand2022 on June 26, 2022, 03:37:32 PM
Who was that guy gouging? Not even togged. Bad rip whoever he is.
Tiernan Kelly be getting some ban
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: imtommygunn on June 26, 2022, 03:38:08 PM
Deserves a few years.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Rudi on June 26, 2022, 03:38:45 PM
Spillane  ;D

He spoke the truth in fairness.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on June 26, 2022, 03:39:31 PM
The goalkeeper passed the ball out blind with a Galway defender standing beside him.,but the reason Galway haven't won th, is Walsh cross field pass that went nowhere near the player.

That was a pass!???!?! I thought it was a shot that he sliced horrifically
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: galwayman on June 26, 2022, 03:39:39 PM
Ah for f**k sake
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Eire90 on June 26, 2022, 03:39:49 PM
what time does kerry v mayo start now is it 5pm
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Chimley on June 26, 2022, 03:40:01 PM
Who was that guy gouging? Not even togged. Bad rip whoever he is.
Tiernan Kelly be getting some ban

 ;)
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: joemamas on June 26, 2022, 03:40:32 PM
Spillane about to have a coronary here!!

Agreed he needs to shut up.
I have said it before, all he wants is sound bites.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: tyroneman on June 26, 2022, 03:40:40 PM
On the football....Galway undone by 2 high balls....cheap cheap goals.....McGeeney should have Armagh raining them in on top of the keeper in ET.

Can't imagine how Joyce will get their heads right after that collapse
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: High Fielder on June 26, 2022, 03:41:14 PM
Galway should have been out of sight. Armagh looked lost in HQ. Likely take a thumping if they get through
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: POD on June 26, 2022, 03:41:58 PM
Eye gouging to my mind goes beyond a disciplinary matter. It is a criminal matter and should be dealt with as such. Shocking and I actually was initially hoping for Armagh to win.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: From the Bunker on June 26, 2022, 03:42:05 PM
Trouble with a Capital T - Horselips - Playing over the PA in Croke Park!  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 26, 2022, 03:42:20 PM
But Kelly long term injured, he even on the match panel, if not he shouldn't be there.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: seafoid on June 26, 2022, 03:43:53 PM
https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2022/0626/1306940-all-ireland-sfc-quarter-final-galway-v-armagh-updates/

A look back at the disgraceful scenes at the end of the 70+ minutes shows Damien Comer being eye-gouged. Ref David Coldrick it would seem is collecting information from his officials and umpires.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: imtommygunn on June 26, 2022, 03:44:22 PM
Comer initiated the thing. Excuses nothing but he did.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: thewobbler on June 26, 2022, 03:44:53 PM
Eye gouging to my mind goes beyond a disciplinary matter. It is a criminal matter and should be dealt with as such. Shocking and I actually was initially hoping for Armagh to win.

I really canít understand how the rule book hasnít been updated for it.

Immediate 12 month ban for an attempted eye gouge. This blight on the game will disappear within a week.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Chimley on June 26, 2022, 03:45:59 PM
Much bigger loss for Galway
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: imtommygunn on June 26, 2022, 03:46:23 PM
Kelly was very disciplined. (Galway Kelly). Really harsh on him.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: galwayman on June 26, 2022, 03:46:49 PM
Only we could make a balls of a 6 point lead at the death
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: mrdeeds on June 26, 2022, 03:47:34 PM
Comer initiated the thing. Excuses nothing but he did.

No Armagh lads over at him. They started it.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: From the Bunker on June 26, 2022, 03:48:03 PM
Kelly was very disciplined. (Galway Kelly). Really harsh on him.

Feel sorry for Kelly, was having a good game. Not sure of his involvement?
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: clarshack on June 26, 2022, 03:48:09 PM
Cop out from Coldrick with only the 2 cards.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Blowitupref on June 26, 2022, 03:48:14 PM
Not sure why those lads got red, any idea?
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Rudi on June 26, 2022, 03:49:08 PM
Kelly seems like a gentleman,  shakes hand with Armagh no 13. Galway more of a footballing team.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: smort on June 26, 2022, 03:49:37 PM
Ref had to send someone off I suppose

Is it 14 or 15 aside here?
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: straightred on June 26, 2022, 03:49:56 PM
Kelly was very disciplined. (Galway Kelly). Really harsh on him.

Feel sorry for Kelly, was having a good game. Not sure of his involvement?
He's a huge loss. Galway got the raw end of that. Not sure why they were singled out. 
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: greatpoint on June 26, 2022, 03:50:21 PM
Can't imagine there are too many neutrals left supporting Armagh at this stage.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: seafoid on June 26, 2022, 03:50:54 PM
Aidan Nugent and SeŠn Kelly have received red cards.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 26, 2022, 03:51:45 PM
Hard to tell in a rumble of 40 men. I find men running in, is intenional making it difficult to pick out troublemakers if it stayed between 3/4 persons. I think Kelly dragged the man eye gouging Comer and took a swing at him., as they became isolated from the crowd and easier to pick out. hard to tell though.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: smort on June 26, 2022, 03:52:50 PM
Hard to tell in a rumble of 40 men. I find men running in, is intenional making it difficult to pick out troublemakers if it stayed between 3/4 persons. I think Kelly dragged the man eye gouging Comer and took a swing at him., as they became isolated from the crowd and easier to pick out. hard to tell though.
Yes can just about see this happening from that main camera angle
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: straightred on June 26, 2022, 03:52:58 PM
Can't imagine there are too many neutrals left supporting Armagh at this stage.

I'm still 50:50 to be honest. Have to hand to Armagh coming back like that although Galway really needed to defend better
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: marty34 on June 26, 2022, 03:53:31 PM
Kelly seems like a gentleman,  shakes hand with Armagh no 13. Galway more of a footballing team.

Yeah, seemed genuinely upset about the eye gouge situation.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: imtommygunn on June 26, 2022, 03:53:36 PM
Donít think Galway Kelly swung. He had plenty of opportunity to though.

Honestly think comer a big factor in instigating that whole thing.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: straightred on June 26, 2022, 03:54:32 PM
Donít think Galway Kelly swung. He had plenty of opportunity to though.

Honestly think comer a big factor in instigating that whole thing.
You could be right. If he'd simply gone down the tunnel it probably wouldn't have kicked off
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: tyroneman on June 26, 2022, 03:54:42 PM
Soupy Campbell allowed 10+ steps all game
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 26, 2022, 03:55:14 PM
Issuing suspensions and making them stick another matter, Armagh love appealing, if Galway win they surely appeal kelly, would been a benefit to Galway if the keeper had been red card.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: straightred on June 26, 2022, 03:56:30 PM
Issuing suspensions and making them stick another matter, Armagh love appealing, if Galway win they surely appeal kelly, would been a benefit to Galway if the keeper had been red card.
Is this kelly serving his suspension or will that carry through to another game?
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Rudi on June 26, 2022, 03:56:50 PM
Comer is no angel, got away with a mild box to the face of an Armagh man at start of extra time. Finnerty having a great game.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: marty34 on June 26, 2022, 03:57:04 PM
Donít think Galway Kelly swung. He had plenty of opportunity to though.

Honestly think comer a big factor in instigating that whole thing.
You could be right. If he'd simply gone down the tunnel it probably wouldn't have kicked off

Teams will have to use a changing room in Hogan Stand and one in the Cusack Stand from now on.

That would cut this carry on out.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: onefineday on June 26, 2022, 03:57:21 PM
Hard to tell in a rumble of 40 men. I find men running in, is intenional making it difficult to pick out troublemakers if it stayed between 3/4 persons. I think Kelly dragged the man eye gouging Comer and took a swing at him., as they became isolated from the crowd and easier to pick out. hard to tell though.
If that was Kelly grabbed him he deserves a medal not a card!
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: imtommygunn on June 26, 2022, 03:57:59 PM
Comer is no angel, got away with a mild box to the face of an Armagh man at start of extra time. Finnerty having a great game.

Agreed on both. Thought that could have been red. Finnerty borderline the difference between the teams.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 26, 2022, 03:58:04 PM
Stay classy, all that booing u think Dublin were playing lol.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: lenny on June 26, 2022, 03:59:01 PM
Who was that guy gouging? Not even togged. Bad rip whoever he is.
Tiernan Kelly be getting some ban

tr**p.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: snoopdog on June 26, 2022, 03:59:50 PM
Disgraceful scenes. He should be banned for a long long time.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: mrdeeds on June 26, 2022, 04:00:39 PM
Issuing suspensions and making them stick another matter, Armagh love appealing, if Galway win they surely appeal kelly, would been a benefit to Galway if the keeper had been red card.
Is this kelly serving his suspension or will that carry through to another game?

Still carries. Mad GAA rules.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Blowitupref on June 26, 2022, 04:00:55 PM
Half time in extra time. Armagh 2-16 Galway 1-20.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Crete Boom on June 26, 2022, 04:01:07 PM
Galway managed that first half of extra time well, really took the sting out of the game.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: imtommygunn on June 26, 2022, 04:01:13 PM
I canít see how he wonít be. His face will be all over social media, media etc etc. Suspect heíll be closing down his social media accounts soon.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 26, 2022, 04:01:28 PM
But why is he even there if long term injured and not on match day panel.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: mrdeeds on June 26, 2022, 04:01:46 PM
Hard to tell in a rumble of 40 men. I find men running in, is intenional making it difficult to pick out troublemakers if it stayed between 3/4 persons. I think Kelly dragged the man eye gouging Comer and took a swing at him., as they became isolated from the crowd and easier to pick out. hard to tell though.
If that was Kelly grabbed him he deserves a medal not a card!

Kelly trying to break it up. Galway sub hit Armagh Kelly then. He deserves a medal alright for the box.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: onefineday on June 26, 2022, 04:01:49 PM
Stay classy, all that booing u think Dublin were playing lol.
Derry have been doing the same at both the UIster final and Vs Clare.
Maybe it's time to accept it, adds to the atmosphere?
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: thewobbler on June 26, 2022, 04:01:54 PM
Spillane is worse than a drunk in a bar.

Just boorish.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 26, 2022, 04:03:12 PM
Even for what's done, I prefer gaa punishment properly enforced in relation to the incident and not a nasty verbal assault on twitter or Facebook.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: clarshack on June 26, 2022, 04:03:51 PM
Armagh have got away with stealing some amount of steps at frees.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Rudi on June 26, 2022, 04:04:40 PM
Comer is no angel, got away with a mild box to the face of an Armagh man at start of extra time. Finnerty having a great game.

Agreed on both. Thought that could have been red. Finnerty borderline the difference between the teams.

Best player on field, thing keeping Armagh in the game is the difference in both goalkeepers. Armagh keeper acting as extra man, Galway keeper is huge liability.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: imtommygunn on June 26, 2022, 04:05:11 PM
Jesus that is awful keeping.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 26, 2022, 04:05:20 PM
3 shocking goals Galway give away.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: straightred on June 26, 2022, 04:05:27 PM
Jesus that is awful keeping.
terrible
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: From the Bunker on June 26, 2022, 04:05:31 PM
Galway Keeper ................. WTF
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: thewobbler on June 26, 2022, 04:05:35 PM
Shocking goalkeeping
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 26, 2022, 04:05:41 PM
Comer is no angel, got away with a mild box to the face of an Armagh man at start of extra time. Finnerty having a great game.

Agreed on both. Thought that could have been red. Finnerty borderline the difference between the teams.

Best player on field, thing keeping Armagh in the game is the difference in both goalkeepers. Armagh keeper acting as extra man, Galway keeper is huge liability.
You're not wrong!
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: red hander on June 26, 2022, 04:05:53 PM
Galway keeper has gifted those orange tramps three goals.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 26, 2022, 04:06:51 PM
Galway the better team by quite a bit but if you have a goalkeeper who can't handle a high ball it's going to be a long afternoon.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 26, 2022, 04:07:01 PM
Galway have won an All Ireland Mayo havenít in the past decades..

Joyce will have set them up rightly might back the draw on this

Just sayingÖ in fairness was refereeing so havenít seen it.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: tyroneman on June 26, 2022, 04:07:07 PM
Never seen a keeper so dodgy under high ball.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: straightred on June 26, 2022, 04:07:44 PM
This is some game
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 26, 2022, 04:08:29 PM
Our keeper (Derry) great under a high ball but his short kick outs dogdy.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: imtommygunn on June 26, 2022, 04:08:48 PM
I can see the tactic for Armagh. Horse her in to f**k
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: High Fielder on June 26, 2022, 04:09:10 PM
Galway under a high ball. Oh dear
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: screenexile on June 26, 2022, 04:09:18 PM
Galway are dodgy as f**k under a high ball Jesus they havenít a clue what to do!
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 26, 2022, 04:10:13 PM
It's a exciting game just due to goalkeeping errors, Galway to me a way better team. It could go to penalties.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: imtommygunn on June 26, 2022, 04:10:42 PM
Yeah agreed with that. Derry should want armagh
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: High Fielder on June 26, 2022, 04:10:46 PM
It's a exciting game just due to goalkeeping errors, Galway to me a way better team. It could go to penalties.

💯
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Rudi on June 26, 2022, 04:12:13 PM
It's  fantastic entertainment, wonderful championship game, best in years.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 26, 2022, 04:12:48 PM
Armagh gonna win it.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: imtommygunn on June 26, 2022, 04:13:01 PM
Dead men walking everywhere. Bonkers game of football.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: marty34 on June 26, 2022, 04:13:18 PM
Shocking goalkeeping

I'd say his confidence is shot.

Imagine he comes good in penalties, if it goes that far!
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: straightred on June 26, 2022, 04:13:23 PM
this is a smash and grab
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 26, 2022, 04:13:48 PM
What's the gardas number, I want to report a robbery.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: screenexile on June 26, 2022, 04:15:14 PM
Itís like Vietnam!
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 26, 2022, 04:15:58 PM
Walsh for the great player he is, goes missing in big games.He have to his mark on the penalties now. The
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Eire90 on June 26, 2022, 04:16:03 PM
a penalty shootout
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: From the Bunker on June 26, 2022, 04:16:53 PM
Galway still can't win a knockout game in Croker!
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: straightred on June 26, 2022, 04:17:06 PM
Walsh for the great player he is, goes missing in big games.He have to his mark on the penalties now. The
His stupid cross field pass cost them the win in normal time
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Hound on June 26, 2022, 04:17:48 PM
Definitely the fairest way to finish this !
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 26, 2022, 04:18:04 PM
From a Derry point of view I def think we gave a better chance against Armagh though don't want to play them (Toll bridge mess) Galway I think beat Derry.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: screenexile on June 26, 2022, 04:18:09 PM
Unbelievable Jeff!!

No team deserves to win or lose this.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: thewobbler on June 26, 2022, 04:18:15 PM
Surely if that lad who keeps dropping high balls into his net has been playing goals his whole life, then thatís advantage Galway
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Blowitupref on June 26, 2022, 04:18:50 PM
Would prefer a replay than a penalty shootout to reach the AI semi final.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: screenexile on June 26, 2022, 04:19:18 PM
From a Derry point of view I def think we gave a better chance against Armagh though don't want to play them (Toll bridge mess) Galway I think beat Derry.

Wouldnít fear either team but I donít think itíll matter thereís literally nothing between them!
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Eire90 on June 26, 2022, 04:19:52 PM
would  having  the first  team to score 3 points after normal extra time be better than penalties
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: imtommygunn on June 26, 2022, 04:19:59 PM
That Armagh eye gouger boy looking a bit solemn there. Likely realises what he has done.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: From the Bunker on June 26, 2022, 04:21:03 PM
............Wait and see - the Galway Keeper will end up being the hero and all will be forgiven!
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Rudi on June 26, 2022, 04:21:37 PM
Would prefer a replay than a penalty shootout to reach the AI semi final.

Agreed
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: marty34 on June 26, 2022, 04:21:56 PM
That Armagh eye gouger boy looking a bit solemn there. Likely realises what he has done.

Probably doesn't realise the whole whoha over it.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Blowitupref on June 26, 2022, 04:22:00 PM
............Wait and see - the Galway Keeper will end up being the hero and all will be forgiven!
Stranger things has happened. Hasn't he played soccer.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: imtommygunn on June 26, 2022, 04:22:15 PM
............Wait and see - the Galway Keeper will end up being the hero and all will be forgiven!

I can see that happening!!
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 26, 2022, 04:22:42 PM
But all drawn games should be replayed, like the good Ole days but condensed season makes it impossible.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on June 26, 2022, 04:22:51 PM
What a game.

The real question is how many pages will this thread be at this time tomorro 😊

*grabs popcorn*
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Eire90 on June 26, 2022, 04:23:08 PM
Would prefer a replay than a penalty shootout to reach the AI semi final.

Agreed

why not the first team to score 3 points
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: From the Bunker on June 26, 2022, 04:23:39 PM
What's the delay?
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Harold Disgracey on June 26, 2022, 04:24:06 PM
Definitely getting our moneyís worth today in Croke Park today,Kerry and Mayo has a lot to line up to!
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: imtommygunn on June 26, 2022, 04:28:35 PM
Rafferty getting close but Galway penalties good.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: imtommygunn on June 26, 2022, 04:28:52 PM
Ah balls that is that.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 26, 2022, 04:29:14 PM
Unlucky there hitting the post, was a good penalty
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: red hander on June 26, 2022, 04:29:38 PM
Justice
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: greatpoint on June 26, 2022, 04:30:02 PM
The poor Armagh ones will get soaked on the way home now
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: thewobbler on June 26, 2022, 04:30:21 PM
Not sure about justice but the marginally better side won by a marginal margin
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Eire90 on June 26, 2022, 04:30:29 PM
is next game still 4.45 or has it been put back to 5pm because of penalties.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: screenexile on June 26, 2022, 04:30:33 PM
Justice

Eh??
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 26, 2022, 04:30:40 PM
Great game, replay a more deserved result, but the better team won  if u take the bad mistakes out of it.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: From the Bunker on June 26, 2022, 04:31:18 PM
Galway by far the better team ........but boy did they fall over the line.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: clarshack on June 26, 2022, 04:31:33 PM
Justice done
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: RedHand88 on June 26, 2022, 04:31:42 PM
Absolute scenes.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Blowitupref on June 26, 2022, 04:31:44 PM
Galway fall over the line in a match they really should have closed out on 70 minutes when 6 ahead with the man advantage.

Hard luck Armagh dreadful way to exit a championship.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: screenexile on June 26, 2022, 04:33:08 PM
Whatís the justice thing? Iím not getting it
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: GJL on June 26, 2022, 04:33:54 PM
Best footballing side on the day are in the next round.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Lotto on June 26, 2022, 04:34:05 PM
Soupy Campbell allowed 10+ steps all game

It didn't help him in the penalties. He'll always let you down in clutch positions.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: From the Bunker on June 26, 2022, 04:34:34 PM
Spillane called both sets of players Gladiators! He's not wrong there, but not in the context he's talking about!  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Harold Disgracey on June 26, 2022, 04:34:49 PM
Well done Galway. Best of luck to Derry in the semi.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: mackers on June 26, 2022, 04:35:32 PM
Whatís the justice thing? Iím not getting it
A Tyrone dick being a Tyrone dick.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: seafoid on June 26, 2022, 04:35:53 PM
Hard luck to Armagh and to all the fans on the board. Beidh lŠ eile ag an Buckfast. Maybe post Geezer.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: tyroneman on June 26, 2022, 04:35:57 PM
What a game. Credit to both teams for a fantastic spectacle.

Horrible way to lose, Soupy prob best player for Armagh and Turbitt scoring 1-1 - you would have had money on them both to score.

Galway slightly better team overall but Derry will be licking tbier lips at how much panic the high ball out into the Galway back line.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: blasmere on June 26, 2022, 04:36:14 PM
Soupy Campbell allowed 10+ steps all game

It didn't help him in the penalties. He'll always let you down in clutch positions.

Faceless keyboard warrior calls out player who had the balls to step up and take one
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: High Fielder on June 26, 2022, 04:36:25 PM
Best team won but they have serious limitations.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: AustinPowers on June 26, 2022, 04:36:30 PM
GAA HQ should hang  their heads In shame  by allowing that penalty nonsense to decide a game.

We all should have had a  replay to forward to  next weekend.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Walter Cronc on June 26, 2022, 04:36:52 PM
Right which Galway men are getting suspended for the semi  8)
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: HokeyPokey on June 26, 2022, 04:37:47 PM
Walsh for the great player he is, goes missing in big games.He have to his mark on the penalties now. The

In fairness he was good today, but that was complete and utter madness.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: marty34 on June 26, 2022, 04:38:36 PM
GAA HQ should hang  their heads In shame  by allowing that penalty nonsense to decide a game.

We all should have had a  replay to forward to  next weekend.

Pure waffle.

Both teams knew, that extra-time and then penalties.

No excuses.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Hound on June 26, 2022, 04:38:38 PM
I was cheering for Armagh for the 70 mins, but well done to Galway.

Great entertainment, pity about the row

Super excitement at the end.

Galway the better team overall I felt and deserving winners.
But their keeper needs to learn how to deal with a high ball!
And theyíve more in the locker from Shane Walsh, albeit theyíd a good few lads who played the very best they can.
Would slightly fancy Derry for the semi.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 26, 2022, 04:39:43 PM
Not matter who's suspended, they all get off as usual.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: naka on June 26, 2022, 04:39:51 PM
Justice
Such a wander you are gives no credence to the gaa
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: RedHand88 on June 26, 2022, 04:40:16 PM
GAA HQ should hang  their heads In shame  by allowing that penalty nonsense to decide a game.

We all should have had a  replay to forward to  next weekend.

Then you'd be calling them the greedy grab all association and gurning about the cost of another day out for fans. Just no pleasing some people.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Mourne Red on June 26, 2022, 04:42:04 PM
Right which Galway men are getting suspended for the semi  8)

Comer 100%
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Eire90 on June 26, 2022, 04:42:15 PM
GAA HQ should hang  their heads In shame  by allowing that penalty nonsense to decide a game.

We all should have had a  replay to forward to  next weekend.

why not the first to 3 points 
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: tintin25 on June 26, 2022, 04:44:14 PM
Actually think the penalties were a good way to end the game.

Overall, Galway were the better team and deserved to go through.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: grounded on June 26, 2022, 04:44:57 PM
What a game. Credit to both teams for a fantastic spectacle.

Horrible way to lose, Soupy prob best player for Armagh and Turbitt scoring 1-1 - you would have had money on them both to score.

Galway slightly better team overall but Derry will be licking tbier lips at how much panic the high ball out into the Galway back line.

Did anyone see that Campbell was cramping up quite badly just before the end of  extra time.  Did he slip just before that penalty or cramp?
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: tyroneman on June 26, 2022, 04:45:13 PM
Shouldn't let the full-time shenanigans overshadow what was one the game of the year.

Unreal by both teams and no reason Armagh couldn't push on from this with Oisin o'N eyc back next year.

Ulster 2023 will be a minefield.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: From the Bunker on June 26, 2022, 04:45:53 PM
GAA HQ should hang  their heads In shame  by allowing that penalty nonsense to decide a game.

We all should have had a  replay to forward to  next weekend.

why not the first to 3 points

Jez, do you want Kerry and Mayo to play at all this evening?
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 26, 2022, 04:46:09 PM
Bollix to that, what an awful way to decide All-Ireland quarter final. Galway in fairness to them were the better team in normal time and only for a dodgy keeper Armagh wouldn't have found a way back into the match.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Eire90 on June 26, 2022, 04:48:14 PM
GAA HQ should hang  their heads In shame  by allowing that penalty nonsense to decide a game.

We all should have had a  replay to forward to  next weekend.

why not the first to 3 points

Jez, do you want Kerry and Mayo to play at all this evening?

maybe you could make it first to 2 that way it still ends with a goal but would not be as cruel if there was golden point
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: smort on June 26, 2022, 04:48:38 PM
5, if not 6, teams could win ulster next year
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Nanderson on June 26, 2022, 04:49:29 PM
GAA HQ should hang  their heads In shame  by allowing that penalty nonsense to decide a game.

We all should have had a  replay to forward to  next weekend.

why not the first to 3 points

Jez, do you want Kerry and Mayo to play at all this evening?

maybe you could make it first to 2 that way it still ends with a goal but would not be as cruel if there was golden point
i'd go 1st to pull out gap of 2 points or more
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Itchy on June 26, 2022, 04:49:32 PM
Can't help but feel Armagh deserved to get bet on penalties. Brutal behaviour yet again.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: thewobbler on June 26, 2022, 04:50:14 PM
GAA HQ should hang  their heads In shame  by allowing that penalty nonsense to decide a game.

We all should have had a  replay to forward to  next weekend.

Iím currently on a crusade to help people understand penalty shootouts.

When you can shift your mindset from one in which the ďloserĒ doesn't deserve to exit, to the (right) mindset in which a team that doesnít win a game has no right to proceed, itís a lot easier to take a penalty shoot out loss.

If you want to proceed, win a game. But if you donít win, donít expect a second chance.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on June 26, 2022, 04:54:25 PM
Its prob been said earlier (not readin back 10pgs at this stage lol) but what about next score wins?! Imagine the tension while that plays out
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: greatpoint on June 26, 2022, 04:55:20 PM
Armagh always seem to let themselves down.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: trueblue1234 on June 26, 2022, 04:55:48 PM
Great game. Fair to play to both teams. Hard to lose that way. Still a good year for Armagh all said and done so can take consolation in that.
Pity bout the melee, will be a big talking point Iím sure. Didnít see what kicked it all off so hard to comment.

Canít see Galway getting by Derry. Just too flaky.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 26, 2022, 04:56:47 PM
Bollix to that, what an awful way to decide All-Ireland quarter final. Galway in fairness to them were the better team in normal time and only for a dodgy keeper Armagh wouldn't have found a way back into the match.
There are finals of much bigger competitions across the globe decided like that. Stop being so precious.
I don't care about finals in other sports. GAA didn't have to ape a foreign sport to decide its important knock out matches.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Eire90 on June 26, 2022, 04:57:03 PM
Its prob been said earlier (not readin back 10pgs at this stage lol) but what about next score wins?! Imagine the tension while that plays out

i said they should  do first to 2 or 3 points wins
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 26, 2022, 04:58:48 PM
Great game. Fair to play to both teams. Hard to lose that way. Still a good year for Armagh all said and done so can take consolation in that.
Pity bout the melee, will be a big talking point Iím sure. Didnít see what kicked it all off so hard to comment.

Canít see Galway getting by Derry. Just too flaky.
Find a less dodgy keeper and I'd give Galway a right good chance of beating Derry.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 26, 2022, 04:59:22 PM
Bollix to that, what an awful way to decide All-Ireland quarter final. Galway in fairness to them were the better team in normal time and only for a dodgy keeper Armagh wouldn't have found a way back into the match.
There are finals of much bigger competitions across the globe decided like that. Stop being so precious.
I don't care about finals in other sports. GAA didn't have to ape a foreign sport to decide its important knock out matches.
More tears please.
Are you 12 years old 
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: From the Bunker on June 26, 2022, 04:59:41 PM
5, if not 6, teams could win ulster next year

You think?
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Eire90 on June 26, 2022, 05:00:34 PM
foreign sport but they worshipped a foreign religion
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Halfquarter on June 26, 2022, 05:03:05 PM
There might be an All Ireland in this Galway team, good forwards , becoming battle hardened
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: RedHand88 on June 26, 2022, 05:04:10 PM
Armagh always seem to let themselves down.

Is it an Armagh thing or a McGeeney thing?
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on June 26, 2022, 05:07:18 PM
Its prob been said earlier (not readin back 10pgs at this stage lol) but what about next score wins?! Imagine the tension while that plays out
Probably could have worked today but itíd be a hoor if you were the team playing into a hurricane.

True tbh
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Loughshore2022 on June 26, 2022, 05:09:15 PM
I think they should ban Galway this year and just let Derry through to the final.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: greatpoint on June 26, 2022, 05:13:45 PM
Armagh always seem to let themselves down.

Is it an Armagh thing or a McGeeney thing?

I dunno at this stage, there's nonsense behaviour in every game they're involved in.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: nrico2006 on June 26, 2022, 05:17:55 PM
Lazy by the GAA regarding penalties, simply copying the deciding method from another sport, a method that is outdated aswell. Could have thought outside the box and came up with a method closer related to the way the game is played.

I wanted Armagh to win, but they benefited from getting the full 15 for extra time. Surely these kind of rules need changed as a team is only temporarily punished for a red card.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: GJL on June 26, 2022, 05:21:17 PM
5, if not 6, teams could win ulster next year

Armagh could be missing a few for the first round after the investigation of todays shenanigans.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 26, 2022, 05:23:34 PM
They could had 2 red cards to be honest with Morgan hit on Walsh.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Turf on June 26, 2022, 05:24:01 PM
Armagh always seem to let themselves down.

Is it an Armagh thing or a McGeeney thing?
Itís a Nordie thing.
Delighted Galway won.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: bennydorano on June 26, 2022, 05:24:25 PM
A hard one to take for Armagh but could ultimately be the making of both teams. Galway could power on this year and when the dust settles Armagh will have a superb starting point for next year. There were lads coming on in normal time there I'd never heard tell of, so we really were stretched thin. I hope the full management team recommit. It'll be another 50/50 match in the semi.

A good weekend for Galway (& Tyrone ones by the looks of it).
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Walter Cronc on June 26, 2022, 05:25:01 PM
Did Comer strike?? Surely whoever got men in headlock will get a ban.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 26, 2022, 05:26:33 PM
Did Comer strike?? Surely whoever got men in headlock will get a ban.
Nothing to see here. Clean slates.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: nrico2006 on June 26, 2022, 05:27:10 PM
Lazy by the GAA regarding penalties, simply copying the deciding method from another sport, a method that is outdated aswell. Could have thought outside the box and came up with a method closer related to the way the game is played.

Like?
Most consecutive hand passes?

Penalties are very much a part of Gaelic football.

Penalty shoot-outs aren't though.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: red hander on June 26, 2022, 05:29:07 PM
Justice
Such a wander you are gives no credence to the gaa

I enjoy Sunday drinking too.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Mourne Red on June 26, 2022, 05:29:38 PM
Armagh always seem to let themselves down.

Is it an Armagh thing or a McGeeney thing?
Itís a Nordie thing.
Delighted Galway won.

Theyíre saints in Offaly apparently https://www.leinsterexpress.ie/news/gaa/673461/five-players-sent-off-after-ugly-brawl-in-midlands-gaa-senior-gaelic-football-game.html
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Westside on June 26, 2022, 05:41:12 PM
Why did RTE continually cut to McGeeney, Donaghy and McKeever as if we were watching the great minds of the GAA in action? Have any of them won anything of note as managers?
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: clarshack on June 26, 2022, 05:43:27 PM
Penalties are a good way to finish it and Iíll say that even if Tyrone end up losing one in the future. The same Armagh ones whinging about penalties tonight no doubt were jumping for joy when the current team playing out of Ibrox lost a recent Euro final on pens.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: armaghniac on June 26, 2022, 05:49:56 PM
Ibrox has nothing to do with it

45s might be more suitable, there are generally more 45s in a game then penalties.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: marty34 on June 26, 2022, 05:51:58 PM
Ibrox has nothing to do with it

45s might be more suitable, there are generally more 45s in a game then penalties.

Sour grapes.

As I said before, every team knows about extra-time and penalties before the game.

Excuses.

Ironicallly, on 70 mins, Armagh people would have bitten your hand off if you offered them penalties then.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: JP on June 26, 2022, 05:53:12 PM
A replay after extra time is the best way! There would be some craic all week in the build up. Galway were the better team and deserved to win though I thought they got some frees alot easier then armagh did.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: armaghniac on June 26, 2022, 05:53:50 PM
No sour grapes. Armagh could have missed a 45 also.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: clarshack on June 26, 2022, 05:57:00 PM
Ibrox has nothing to do with it

45s might be more suitable, there are generally more 45s in a game then penalties.
Many more players would be more comfortable kicking a penalty than a 45.

Not too many would score a 45 at the end of extra time.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Dreadnought on June 26, 2022, 06:01:33 PM
A replay after extra time is the best way! There would be some craic all week in the build up. Galway were the better team and deserved to win though I thought they got some frees alot easier then armagh did.

Where we squeezing that into? Where, and will it be on TV? Next weekend is for hurling. And players know next weekend is off for them regardless. We all knew it was on the day, officials, players, supporters. We deal with it, as that's the calendar we wanted
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Dreadnought on June 26, 2022, 06:02:38 PM
Ibrox has nothing to do with it

45s might be more suitable, there are generally more 45s in a game then penalties.
Many more players would be more comfortable kicking a penalty than a 45.

Not too many would score a 45 at the end of extra time.

And not many players can take one. It's a rare skill. Penalties can be taken by practically any player. They make more sense
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: JP on June 26, 2022, 06:08:00 PM
A replay after extra time is the best way! There would be some craic all week in the build up. Galway were the better team and deserved to win though I thought they got some frees alot easier then armagh did.

Where we squeezing that into? Where, and will it be on TV? Next weekend is for hurling. And players know next weekend is off for them regardless. We all knew it was on the day, officials, players, supporters. We deal with it, as that's the calendar we wanted

Who is we? It's certainly not the calender I would have wanted. We managed to have replays for years with no issue. Regardless the re-introdiction of the super 8 next year proves there is room for more games under the current "calender"
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: mrdeeds on June 26, 2022, 06:14:57 PM
Ibrox has nothing to do with it

45s might be more suitable, there are generally more 45s in a game then penalties.
Many more players would be more comfortable kicking a penalty than a 45.

Exactly. And players wrecked after extra time trying to kick from 45. Don't be ridiculous.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Eire90 on June 26, 2022, 06:28:52 PM
Ibrox has nothing to do with it

45s might be more suitable, there are generally more 45s in a game then penalties.
Many more players would be more comfortable kicking a penalty than a 45.

Not too many would score a 45 at the end of extra time.
Yip. Itís pretty simple. They want to finish on the day due to the shorter season. Iíve yet to see a suggestion that betters penalties for that.
Kicking 45s ffs.

they can finish it on the day by having the first to two or three points after nomal extra time i cant believe the gaa have not thought of that or maybe they have.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: mrdeeds on June 26, 2022, 06:29:41 PM
Ibrox has nothing to do with it

45s might be more suitable, there are generally more 45s in a game then penalties.
Many more players would be more comfortable kicking a penalty than a 45.

Not too many would score a 45 at the end of extra time.
Yip. Itís pretty simple. They want to finish on the day due to the shorter season. Iíve yet to see a suggestion that betters penalties for that.
Kicking 45s ffs.

they can finish it on the day by having the first to two or three points after nomal extra time i cant believe the gaa have not thought of that or maybe they have.

What happens if one team has a strong wind?
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: OrchardOrange on June 26, 2022, 06:34:46 PM
A hard one to take for Armagh but could ultimately be the making of both teams. Galway could power on this year and when the dust settles Armagh will have a superb starting point for next year. There were lads coming on in normal time there I'd never heard tell of, so we really were stretched thin. I hope the full management team recommit. It'll be another 50/50 match in the semi.

A good weekend for Galway (& Tyrone ones by the looks of it).

Take off the orange glasses mate. We scored 2 flukey late goals courtesy of a flakey keeper. Otherwise we were miles off Galway and could've been going home bate out the gate by 8 or 9. Geezer has to go
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Muck Savage on June 26, 2022, 06:36:30 PM
Alternate possession each starting from a GK kickout. team A  start from their GK, once the ball goes out over the end line, point, goal they loose possession. If the other team turn them over they get an opportunity to score at the other end, but it needs to go dead. If team A score first, team B need to score to keep it going, if turned over Team A need to kill the ball by kicking wide or score.

Could be a great way to get a winner and it would be a team effort to win
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Louther on June 26, 2022, 06:49:17 PM
If itís finish on the day, Iíve yet to see a better answer to penalties to finish a game in any team sport in the world.

Keep playing periods of extra time maybe but players already out on their feet.

With penalties itís the exact same for both players and teams.

Some of the alternatives been suggestedÖÖ.FFS.

Interesting that Galway had practiced for them and played them at end of a few challenge games. Thatís some preparation and the teams have accepted them. Pat Spillane just thinks that everything some be the same as the 80s when Kerry reigned supreme.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Rossfan on June 26, 2022, 06:53:47 PM
Some 3 hours of drama and the fight thrown in.
Great entertainment.
Spillane and others decrying penalties obviously want Club games banished to October so they can have replays.
Hard way to lose but with 5 minutes to go Armagh would have gladly taken penalties.
Galway might need to change their goalie though.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: SouthDublinBro on June 26, 2022, 07:02:39 PM
The mask slipped again. Same old Armagh. They could start a fight over the drop of a hat. I wonder if it's that same old bitterness "ye forgot about us" begrudgery that a lot of republican nordies seem to harbour? Whatever the reason, I'm glad they have been well and truly exposed to the neutral.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Sportacus on June 26, 2022, 07:02:52 PM
Incredible spirit from both teams - Kelly, Tierney, Finnerty all showed Galway arenít just about Comer and Walsh.  Galway will be a tough task for Derry.

Not sure how the row happened but itís lingered around Armagh all year as a problem. For me they didnít own the indiscipline problem earlier in the year - theyíd rather appeal than sort it out internally.  So same old today. The subs disgraced themselves and unfortunately itís something people will associate with Armagh as well as the great football they play.  (And we havenít even had the Sunday Game yet).
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Fionntamhnach on June 26, 2022, 07:04:32 PM
If itís finish on the day, Iíve yet to see a better answer to penalties to finish a game in any team sport in the world.

Keep playing periods of extra time maybe but players already out on their feet.

With penalties itís the exact same for both players and teams.

Some of the alternatives been suggestedÖÖ.FFS.

Interesting that Galway had practiced for them and played them at end of a few challenge games. Thatís some preparation and the teams have accepted them. Pat Spillane just thinks that everything some be the same as the 80s when Kerry reigned supreme.

Back in the winter, I recall the Tyrone County Committee sending out a message to clubs in the county asking for suggestions other than a penalty shoot-out to ultimately decide the winner of a fixture where there had to be a "winner on the day".

They didn't get one response back.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: charlieTully on June 26, 2022, 07:08:33 PM
What a buzz. Its the hope that kills you. Take oneill out of that team they are nothing. Thank you Galway.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: tintin25 on June 26, 2022, 07:08:40 PM
If itís finish on the day, Iíve yet to see a better answer to penalties to finish a game in any team sport in the world.

Keep playing periods of extra time maybe but players already out on their feet.

With penalties itís the exact same for both players and teams.

Some of the alternatives been suggestedÖÖ.FFS.


Interesting that Galway had practiced for them and played them at end of a few challenge games. Thatís some preparation and the teams have accepted them. Pat Spillane just thinks that everything some be the same as the 80s when Kerry reigned supreme.

Some nonsense proposals indeed.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Eire90 on June 26, 2022, 07:09:41 PM
who actually uses the word nordie unless your some sort of pro tory or west brit
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: marty34 on June 26, 2022, 07:09:51 PM
Incredible spirit from both teams - Kelly, Tierney, Finnerty all showed Galway arenít just about Comer and Walsh.  Galway will be a tough task for Derry.

Not sure how the row happened but itís lingered around Armagh all year as a problem. For me they didnít own the indiscipline problem earlier in the year - theyíd rather appeal than sort it out internally.  So same old today. The subs disgraced themselves and unfortunately itís something people will associate with Armagh as well as the great football they play.  (And we havenít even had the Sunday Game yet).

Must get the popcorn in for that.

Spillane won't be on it at least.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: OrchardOrange on June 26, 2022, 07:12:19 PM
If itís finish on the day, Iíve yet to see a better answer to penalties to finish a game in any team sport in the world.

Keep playing periods of extra time maybe but players already out on their feet.

With penalties itís the exact same for both players and teams.

Some of the alternatives been suggestedÖÖ.FFS.

Interesting that Galway had practiced for them and played them at end of a few challenge games. Thatís some preparation and the teams have accepted them. Pat Spillane just thinks that everything some be the same as the 80s when Kerry reigned supreme.

Back in the winter, I recall the Tyrone County Committee sending out a message to clubs in the county asking for suggestions other than a penalty shoot-out to ultimately decide the winner of a fixture where there had to be a "winner on the day".

They didn't get one response back.

Youse Tyrone boys love the soccer
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Lamh Dhearg Alba on June 26, 2022, 07:13:20 PM
Incredible game and fantastic entertainment. Galway were a few points the better team in normal team but their inability to deal with the high ball and then kicking away possession when they all had to do was hold the ball cost them dearly. They were otherwise very impressive but lot of questions about the way they almost threw that away. At the same time they deserve credit for keeping going after the disappointment of the final minutes then going a goal down in extra time. Will be a fascinating game against Derry, but that naivety would be punished by Derry you'd expect.

Tough to take for Armagh. For all Galway will be wondering how it went to extra time, Armagh still had to find a way to get those scores and they did. I had a lot of questions about Armagh through the league and early in the Championship but there are certainly reasons to be positive if they can build on the last few weeks.

Only negative today was the brawl. Absolutely ridiculous and embarrassing for the sport. Need to see strong punishments (that aren't rescinded on appeal).
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Hound on June 26, 2022, 07:15:49 PM
who actually uses the word nordie unless your some sort of pro tory or west brit
Ironic that someone who finds Ďnordieí offensive thinks itís fine to use the term  Ďwest brití

Any why on earth would a tory use the term? 😆
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: naka on June 26, 2022, 07:17:19 PM
The mask slipped again. Same old Armagh. They could start a fight over the drop of a hat. I wonder if it's that same old bitterness "ye forgot about us" begrudgery that a lot of republican nordies seem to harbour? Whatever the reason, I'm glad they have been well and truly exposed to the neutral.
Think thatís says more about you view in the split than us in the north
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Eire90 on June 26, 2022, 07:17:24 PM
who actually uses the word nordie unless your some sort of pro tory or west brit
Ironic that someone who finds Ďnordieí offensive thinks itís fine to use the term  Ďwest brití

Any why on earth would a tory use the term? 😆

where did i say i find nordie offensive
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Hound on June 26, 2022, 07:21:18 PM
who actually uses the word nordie unless your some sort of pro tory or west brit
Ironic that someone who finds Ďnordieí offensive thinks itís fine to use the term  Ďwest brití

Any why on earth would a tory use the term? 😆

where did i say i find nordie offensive
Well then stop your moaning nordie and stop using offensive terms.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: sam03/05 on June 26, 2022, 07:21:27 PM
There was very little to the row to be fair - a few hand bags - with the exception of the eye gouge
Looked worse than it was. Although in saying that Tyrone got 4 reds for contributing to a melee- if those rules were applied there would be 24 reds
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Eire90 on June 26, 2022, 07:22:57 PM
where did i say i was a nordie
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Fionntamhnach on June 26, 2022, 07:25:09 PM
A good weekend for Galway (& Tyrone ones by the looks of it).

Youse Tyrone boys love the soccer

Rent. Free. ;D
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: inroundthesquare on June 26, 2022, 07:35:44 PM
Shouldn't let the full-time shenanigans overshadow what was one the game of the year.

Unreal by both teams and no reason Armagh couldn't push on from this with Oisin o'N eyc back next year.

Ulster 2023 will be a minefield.

All go into a last 16 anyway where you'll probably end up with an Ulster team in your group
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: bennydorano on June 26, 2022, 07:37:54 PM
A hard one to take for Armagh but could ultimately be the making of both teams. Galway could power on this year and when the dust settles Armagh will have a superb starting point for next year. There were lads coming on in normal time there I'd never heard tell of, so we really were stretched thin. I hope the full management team recommit. It'll be another 50/50 match in the semi.

A good weekend for Galway (& Tyrone ones by the looks of it).

Take off the orange glasses mate. We scored 2 flukey late goals courtesy of a flakey keeper. Otherwise we were miles off Galway and could've been going home bate out the gate by 8 or 9. Geezer has to go
Oh dear lord ::)  Armagh is a small county, our club football is pretty mediocre, to get a seriously competitive team playing a great brand of football, reinvigorating the County along the way, is fantastic imo. A team depleted by multiple injuries as well. We can look forward to next season with confidence. But sure I'd love to hear your suggestions for alternatives.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Sportacus on June 26, 2022, 07:54:11 PM
Incredible game and fantastic entertainment. Galway were a few points the better team in normal team but their inability to deal with the high ball and then kicking away possession when they all had to do was hold the ball cost them dearly. They were otherwise very impressive but lot of questions about the way they almost threw that away. At the same time they deserve credit for keeping going after the disappointment of the final minutes then going a goal down in extra time. Will be a fascinating game against Derry, but that naivety would be punished by Derry you'd expect.

Tough to take for Armagh. For all Galway will be wondering how it went to extra time, Armagh still had to find a way to get those scores and they did. I had a lot of questions about Armagh through the league and early in the Championship but there are certainly reasons to be positive if they can build on the last few weeks.

Only negative today was the brawl. Absolutely ridiculous and embarrassing for the sport. Need to see strong punishments (that aren't rescinded on appeal).
But sure that never happens and thatís why it happens time and again.  GAA is a joke shop when it comes to suspensions.  And if Coldrick randomly selected the two captains for a bit of punishment, thatís pure Father Ted stuff. 
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: seafoid on June 26, 2022, 08:00:31 PM
Poor old Soupy.

https://youtu.be/Nuw8GJbqx94
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: galwayman on June 26, 2022, 08:18:24 PM
Heart not good after that. As a man who goes to pretty much every Galway game Iím not one bit surprised that our keeper almost cost us the game. He is a liability end of story.
How he is still there beggars belief to be honest.
At the end of normal time I feared we were gone.
But delighted we dug it out.
Cillian McDaid dragged us to penalties. 
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: RedHand88 on June 26, 2022, 08:21:30 PM
And to think an Armagh man invented the penalty kick...
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: JoG2 on June 26, 2022, 08:22:06 PM
What entertainment, well done to both teams. A game that had everything played in front of a huge passionate crowd, but penalties are a cruel way for a team to go out.

Must have been some Sunday drinking going on in here. Feeling thirsty now
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Capt Pat on June 26, 2022, 08:47:01 PM
Will there be a lot of suspensions arising from that brawl? The thing is they will only hurt Galway if there are many suspensions. Armagh are out now while Galway have a game in 2 weeks.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: armaghniac on June 26, 2022, 08:50:07 PM
Everyone involved in the melee should be suspended from inter county football for the rest of 2022.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: general_lee on June 26, 2022, 09:04:14 PM
Great game and atmosphere. Both sets of forwards on top. Armagh are there or thereabouts, just need to fine tune a few aspects especially at the back. Donít think midfield won any of the throw-ins. The sending off seems to have been overshadowed by the argy bargey and the eye-gouging, but it didnít really affect Armagh and they showed great heart in dragging themselves back in, but then lacked composure that could have seen the game out. Galway for me were the better rounded side and deserved their victory, despite the efforts of their GK. Penalties is a shit way to decide a game though.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: IolarCoisCuain on June 26, 2022, 09:26:48 PM
Everyone involved in the melee should be suspended from inter county football for the rest of 2022.

 ;D
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: imtommygunn on June 26, 2022, 09:27:48 PM
Armagh are not near tight enough marking in defense. Still a bit of improvement required.

As for suspensions that boy who did the eye gouging has his face all over social media so he has been got hook line and sinker.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: RadioGAAGAA on June 26, 2022, 09:33:12 PM
Few thoughts.

Replace penalties with next 2 scores in a row wins. All right, it might go on for a while, but better than penalties.

The gouger needs at least 2 years. No need to ban anyone else. Just a few handbags.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 26, 2022, 09:34:06 PM
Armagh are not near tight enough marking in defense. Still a bit of improvement required.

As for suspensions that boy who did the eye gouging has his face all over social media so he has been got hook line and sinker.
His name is actually trending on Twitter!
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: screenexile on June 26, 2022, 09:39:34 PM
Armagh turned down at least 4 goal scoring opportunities they could have had the game won if theyíd had a bit more courage!
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: imtommygunn on June 26, 2022, 09:41:23 PM
Armagh are not near tight enough marking in defense. Still a bit of improvement required.

As for suspensions that boy who did the eye gouging has his face all over social media so he has been got hook line and sinker.
His name is actually trending on Twitter!

I would say he would be best shutting down his social media accounts!
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: tyroneman on June 26, 2022, 09:44:04 PM
Rian stole some amount of yards for that final free lol. Fair play to him, they all do it - funny how club refs will blow for this but I've never seen a County ref call it
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: screenexile on June 26, 2022, 09:46:28 PM
Hall could have gone for goal too!!
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 26, 2022, 09:49:24 PM
McGeeney gave a poor enough account of himself when interviewed earlier by Sidebottom.

Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: general_lee on June 26, 2022, 09:49:57 PM
Armagh also kicked an easy wide right at the end that would have won it  :(
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Orior on June 26, 2022, 09:51:28 PM
Great game - gaelic football is the best.

Armagh six points down, a man down and then the give us the best 28 minutes ever. Hope everyone stays on the panel for next year.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Saffrongael on June 26, 2022, 09:55:10 PM
Hall could have gone for goal too!!

Should have
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: tonto1888 on June 26, 2022, 09:55:13 PM
Just home. Some thoughts.
1. Wel done Galway. Better team. Deserved winners. It was a smash and grab raid at the end from us. We never really got going otherwise.
2. The ref. No complaints. He gave some soft frees but against both teams. I thought McCabe made a fair but hard shoulder challenge but apparently he raised his arm so had to go.
3. The melee. Sadly we are the common denominator and while it looked like Comer was the instigator we have only ourselves to blame for getting involved. Again.
4. The gouge. I do not believe for one second, and wonít be convinced otherwise, that he meant to do that. However he did it. The pictures donít look good and he will have to face the consequences of his own actions and take whatever ban comes his way.
5. Penalties. What more can I say. Gutted to lose that way

Lastly, and it is with a heavy heart that I wrote this. I am ashamed to be an Armagh fan today. My nephew is 5. He was in the toilet with his dad. 5 grown men. Armagh supporters, got into a fight. One of them knocked my nephew over. The lad is traumatised. He will get over it but will he want to go back to a game again? Woukd you blame him if he didnít. The guys were wearing Armagh tops. My nephew thought they were players ffs. At this stage I am not sure I want to go back to a game.

Anyway. Best of luck to Galway against Derry in the semifinal
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Itchy on June 26, 2022, 10:07:49 PM
Just home. Some thoughts.
1. Wel done Galway. Better team. Deserved winners. It was a smash and grab raid at the end from us. We never really got going otherwise.
2. The ref. No complaints. He gave some soft frees but against both teams. I thought McCabe made a fair but hard shoulder challenge but apparently he raised his arm so had to go.
3. The melee. Sadly we are the common denominator and while it looked like Comer was the instigator we have only ourselves to blame for getting involved. Again.
4. The gouge. I do not believe for one second, and wonít be convinced otherwise, that he meant to do that. However he did it. The pictures donít look good and he will have to face the consequences of his own actions and take whatever ban comes his way.
5. Penalties. What more can I say. Gutted to lose that way

Lastly, and it is with a heavy heart that I wrote this. I am ashamed to be an Armagh fan today. My nephew is 5. He was in the toilet with his dad. 5 grown men. Armagh supporters, got into a fight. One of them knocked my nephew over. The lad is traumatised. He will get over it but will he want to go back to a game again? Woukd you blame him if he didnít. The guys were wearing Armagh tops. My nephew thought they were players ffs. At this stage I am not sure I want to go back to a game.

Anyway. Best of luck to Galway against Derry in the semifinal

I'm sorry to hear that about your nephew. Unfortunately big games bring the dickheads out of the woodwork. Get him going to league games where them boys are not at. I think you assessment is fair but the eye gouge looks so deliberate,  I just can't see any mitigation against it.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: imtommygunn on June 26, 2022, 10:08:26 PM
If the eye gouge wasnít intentional then what was he trying to do? I donít understand how it couldnít have been intentional tbh.

Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: tonto1888 on June 26, 2022, 10:11:12 PM
If the eye gouge wasnít intentional then what was he trying to do? I donít understand how it couldnít have been intentional tbh.

Looks like he could be trying to push the guy away and connects with his eyes. I donít know. Iím sitting here with a heavy heart and it isnít just the result that is making it that way. Maybe I just donít want to think an Armagh player, a player form my own town and club, would do that.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: RadioGAAGAA on June 26, 2022, 10:11:33 PM
Lastly, and it is with a heavy heart that I wrote this. I am ashamed to be an Armagh fan today. My nephew is 5. He was in the toilet with his dad. 5 grown men. Armagh supporters, got into a fight. One of them knocked my nephew over. The lad is traumatised. He will get over it but will he want to go back to a game again? Woukd you blame him if he didnít. The guys were wearing Armagh tops. My nephew thought they were players ffs. At this stage I am not sure I want to go back to a game.


Disgusting.

They'll probably be that full by the end of the night they'll remember nothing of it tomorrow. 5 tramps of the highest order.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 26, 2022, 10:12:11 PM
If the eye gouge wasnít intentional then what was he trying to do? I donít understand how it couldnít have been intentional tbh.
Intentional or not he had absolutely no need to get involved at all let alone blindside a player and put his hand across his face. It's a peculiar approach if not trying to gouge. Anyway he'll be hung, drawn and quartered by the morning which always feels a bit off for an amateur sportsman.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: RadioGAAGAA on June 26, 2022, 10:13:58 PM
If the eye gouge wasnít intentional then what was he trying to do? I donít understand how it couldnít have been intentional tbh.
Intentional or not he had absolutely no need to get involved at all let alone blindside a player and put his hand across his face. It's a peculiar approach if not trying to gouge. Anyway he'll be hung, drawn and quartered by the morning which always feels a bit off for an amateur sportsman.

When he could destroy the eye of a fellow amateur sportsman... then he deserves what he gets.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: tonto1888 on June 26, 2022, 10:15:14 PM
Just home. Some thoughts.
1. Wel done Galway. Better team. Deserved winners. It was a smash and grab raid at the end from us. We never really got going otherwise.
2. The ref. No complaints. He gave some soft frees but against both teams. I thought McCabe made a fair but hard shoulder challenge but apparently he raised his arm so had to go.
3. The melee. Sadly we are the common denominator and while it looked like Comer was the instigator we have only ourselves to blame for getting involved. Again.
4. The gouge. I do not believe for one second, and wonít be convinced otherwise, that he meant to do that. However he did it. The pictures donít look good and he will have to face the consequences of his own actions and take whatever ban comes his way.
5. Penalties. What more can I say. Gutted to lose that way

Lastly, and it is with a heavy heart that I wrote this. I am ashamed to be an Armagh fan today. My nephew is 5. He was in the toilet with his dad. 5 grown men. Armagh supporters, got into a fight. One of them knocked my nephew over. The lad is traumatised. He will get over it but will he want to go back to a game again? Woukd you blame him if he didnít. The guys were wearing Armagh tops. My nephew thought they were players ffs. At this stage I am not sure I want to go back to a game.

Anyway. Best of luck to Galway against Derry in the semifinal

I'm sorry to hear that about your nephew. Unfortunately big games bring the dickheads out of the woodwork. Get him going to league games where them boys are not at. I think you assessment is fair but the eye gouge looks so deliberate,  I just can't see any mitigation against it.

Cheers mate. He has been to loads of games all over the country already. We indoctrinate them early in our family haha. The poor lad was crying for an hour afterwards tho. Heís pretty resilient tho so hopefully he will shake it off and be raring to go for the McKenna cup. Me on the other handÖ.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Rudi on June 26, 2022, 10:15:48 PM
My experience of Armagh & Crossmageln supporters is they have some of the very best & worst supporters in the Gaa. Big days bring out the thuggish bandwagoners.
Can remember being at an Ulster final many moons ago between Armagh & Donegal. Bus pulls up with Armagh supporters close to Stadium, thousands of people young & old around, Armagh woman in her 20s first off the bus, pulls down her Jean's & drawers, squats about 6 feet from the bus, takes a pee like shes at home. Classy.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Armagh18 on June 26, 2022, 10:17:15 PM
Well done Galway- probably were the better team on the day, some very good players-hope Kelly gets his red overturned and no one else gets suspended. They deserve a full compliment for the semi and best of luck to them. . Absolutely gutting way to lose a game- a replay next weekend would have been fairer.

We really have the best fans in the country- place was absolutely rocking and the second game felt like it was being played in a library in comparison.

What a game- what a score from Rian to level it too. Would be a crime if that lad never wins sam.

Weíll be back though.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 26, 2022, 10:17:37 PM
If the eye gouge wasnít intentional then what was he trying to do? I donít understand how it couldnít have been intentional tbh.
Intentional or not he had absolutely no need to get involved at all let alone blindside a player and put his hand across his face. It's a peculiar approach if not trying to gouge. Anyway he'll be hung, drawn and quartered by the morning which always feels a bit off for an amateur sportsman.

When he could destroy the eye of a fellow amateur sportsman... then he deserves what he gets.
Oh I know. I just watched the video back and just before he releases his hand he closes his fingers it what only can be interpreted as a deliberate gouge. Questions need to be asked why he was near the field if out injured - anyone beyond the 30 on the pitch getting involved should be an immediate ban. The GAA should throw the book at him to the maximum extent possible, but the social media abuse is a bit much imo.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Saffrongael on June 26, 2022, 10:23:46 PM
There is some crazy stuff on social media, trying to find out who his employer is etc to really sink him. Totally over the top.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Gael80 on June 26, 2022, 10:27:43 PM
Football needs depth and competitive games with teams bringing style to the game. Armagh and Galway certainly saved All Ireland QF weekend and as a result increased interest in the championship. It was game of the season for sure but maybe one of the best games for pure drama in a number of years. It's possible we'll see more Galway v Armagh games over the coming years, two teams going places. Galway v Derry has potential to be another epic which can only be good for the game.

One criticism, due to the epic nature of today's game it really shines a light on the crazy get a result on the day rule. We are not soccer so a shoot out has no place in deciding an All Ireland QF, especially with players out on their feet. Joyce was spot on and it's something I'd hope the GPA and county boards bring up in the off season. Congrats Galway though, they'll take some beating this season and it would be great for the game if them or Derry can win Sam which I think is possible.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: tintin25 on June 26, 2022, 10:30:45 PM
There is some crazy stuff on social media, trying to find out who his employer is etc to really sink him. Totally over the top.

For real?  That's just pathetic FFS.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 26, 2022, 10:31:44 PM
You make your bed you lie in it, sane in life, and generally if youíre a **** youíll act a **** daily, whoever goes out and tries to gouge someoneís eye out is a **** and deserves all that comes his way
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: From the Bunker on June 26, 2022, 10:47:16 PM
You make your bed you lie in it, sane in life, and generally if youíre a **** youíll act a **** daily, whoever goes out and tries to gouge someoneís eye out is a **** and deserves all that comes his way

..............ah now, let him without sin cast the first stone.  He has a family, friends etc. Treating him like a dog solves nothing!
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 26, 2022, 10:48:28 PM
You make your bed you lie in it, sane in life, and generally if youíre a **** youíll act a **** daily, whoever goes out and tries to gouge someoneís eye out is a **** and deserves all that comes his way

..............ah now, let him without sin cast the first stone.
I'd say MR has had a day in the club.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: 6th sam on June 26, 2022, 11:20:53 PM
GAA HQ should hang  their heads In shame  by allowing that penalty nonsense to decide a game.

We all should have had a  replay to forward to  next weekend.

Iím currently on a crusade to help people understand penalty shootouts.

When you can shift your mindset from one in which the ďloserĒ doesn't deserve to exit, to the (right) mindset in which a team that doesnít win a game has no right to proceed, itís a lot easier to take a penalty shoot out loss.

If you want to proceed, win a game. But if you donít win, donít expect a second chance.
Fair summary. Rules are clear from the start .
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: blanketattack on June 26, 2022, 11:24:38 PM
After seeing Armagh's red card and behaviour today, I think we've been wrong about Tyrone - compared to other teams in Ulster, Tyrone are a sporting, clean, non-cynical team of good honest men.

With the Galway goalkeeper having such a horror show today, you'd have thought the Armagh penalty takers would have been told to at least keep their penalties on target.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 26, 2022, 11:26:33 PM
After seeing Armagh's red card and behaviour today, I think we've been wrong about Tyrone - compared to other teams in Ulster, Tyrone are a sporting, clean, non-cynical team of good honest men.

With the Galway goalkeeper having such a horror show today, you'd have thought the Armagh penalty takers would have been told to at least keep their penalties on target.
They'd have had more success if they hoofed the ball 50 foot into the air from the penalty spot and asked the keeper to gather the high ball. Would take a bit of skill but worth trying!
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: marty34 on June 26, 2022, 11:28:37 PM
You make your bed you lie in it, sane in life, and generally if youíre a **** youíll act a **** daily, whoever goes out and tries to gouge someoneís eye out is a **** and deserves all that comes his way

..............ah now, let him without sin cast the first stone.  He has a family, friends etc. Treating him like a dog solves nothing!

I agree. The lad knows himself what he done was wrong.

This witch hunt of checking who he works for is on another level.  Social media gone overboard.

The lad will probably get a ban.

Move on.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: From the Bunker on June 26, 2022, 11:29:05 PM
Some one has to be disappointed. Dragging this out for another week for Amateur players is wrong. If you are good enough to win over 70+ or 90+ minutes then good. If not you can't have any complaints going out to penalties.

Media sources will say otherwise because they want to sell more papers, podcasts, TV advertising etc.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: tonto1888 on June 26, 2022, 11:33:31 PM
After seeing Armagh's red card and behaviour today, I think we've been wrong about Tyrone - compared to other teams in Ulster, Tyrone are a sporting, clean, non-cynical team of good honest men.

With the Galway goalkeeper having such a horror show today, you'd have thought the Armagh penalty takers would have been told to at least keep their penalties on target.

Thatís where they went wrong. The management clearly told the players to not hit the targetÖ.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: OrchardOrange on June 26, 2022, 11:43:37 PM
Just home. Some thoughts.
1. Wel done Galway. Better team. Deserved winners. It was a smash and grab raid at the end from us. We never really got going otherwise.
2. The ref. No complaints. He gave some soft frees but against both teams. I thought McCabe made a fair but hard shoulder challenge but apparently he raised his arm so had to go.
3. The melee. Sadly we are the common denominator and while it looked like Comer was the instigator we have only ourselves to blame for getting involved. Again.
4. The gouge. I do not believe for one second, and wonít be convinced otherwise, that he meant to do that. However he did it. The pictures donít look good and he will have to face the consequences of his own actions and take whatever ban comes his way.
5. Penalties. What more can I say. Gutted to lose that way

Lastly, and it is with a heavy heart that I wrote this. I am ashamed to be an Armagh fan today. My nephew is 5. He was in the toilet with his dad. 5 grown men. Armagh supporters, got into a fight. One of them knocked my nephew over. The lad is traumatised. He will get over it but will he want to go back to a game again? Woukd you blame him if he didnít. The guys were wearing Armagh tops. My nephew thought they were players ffs. At this stage I am not sure I want to go back to a game.

Anyway. Best of luck to Galway against Derry in the semifinal

Tonto, I'm guessing you're either a relative or friend of the player involved but the worst possible thing anyone can do is pretend that was accidental Excuse it with a rush of the blood moment or whatever but noone associated with Armagh GAA should make an excuse for it. Just call it for what it is ffs
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: tonto1888 on June 26, 2022, 11:45:56 PM
Just home. Some thoughts.
1. Wel done Galway. Better team. Deserved winners. It was a smash and grab raid at the end from us. We never really got going otherwise.
2. The ref. No complaints. He gave some soft frees but against both teams. I thought McCabe made a fair but hard shoulder challenge but apparently he raised his arm so had to go.
3. The melee. Sadly we are the common denominator and while it looked like Comer was the instigator we have only ourselves to blame for getting involved. Again.
4. The gouge. I do not believe for one second, and wonít be convinced otherwise, that he meant to do that. However he did it. The pictures donít look good and he will have to face the consequences of his own actions and take whatever ban comes his way.
5. Penalties. What more can I say. Gutted to lose that way

Lastly, and it is with a heavy heart that I wrote this. I am ashamed to be an Armagh fan today. My nephew is 5. He was in the toilet with his dad. 5 grown men. Armagh supporters, got into a fight. One of them knocked my nephew over. The lad is traumatised. He will get over it but will he want to go back to a game again? Woukd you blame him if he didnít. The guys were wearing Armagh tops. My nephew thought they were players ffs. At this stage I am not sure I want to go back to a game.

Anyway. Best of luck to Galway against Derry in the semifinal

Tonto, I'm guessing you're either a relative or friend of the player involved but the worst possible thing anyone can do is pretend that was accidental Excuse it with a rush of the blood moment or whatever but noone associated with Armagh GAA should make an excuse for it. Just call it for what it is ffs

Same club tho my playing days are long since over and I donít actually know him. I wrote that having only seen the photo. Iíve since seen the video and canít excuse him. He will have a deserved ban coming. I hope he takes it and learns from it and moves on from it. Also hope he is allowed to move on from it. As has been said, the witch hunt on SM is behind a joke
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Baile BrigŪn 2 on June 26, 2022, 11:46:36 PM
Everyone involved in the melee should be suspended from inter county football for the rest of 2022.

On the basis Tiernan Kelly had no business being on the pitch, treat him like the Louth fans in 2010 and give him a day out in court.

I'm serious. It's not a schmozzle when pitch invasions are involved.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Sportacus on June 26, 2022, 11:52:50 PM
Everyone involved in the melee should be suspended from inter county football for the rest of 2022.

On the basis Tiernan Kelly had no business being on the pitch, treat him like the Louth fans in 2010 and give him a day out in court.

I'm serious. It's not a schmozzle when pitch invasions are involved.
Did you call for Philly McMahon to see court when he gouged?
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on June 27, 2022, 12:00:22 AM
Just home. Some thoughts.
1. Wel done Galway. Better team. Deserved winners. It was a smash and grab raid at the end from us. We never really got going otherwise.
2. The ref. No complaints. He gave some soft frees but against both teams. I thought McCabe made a fair but hard shoulder challenge but apparently he raised his arm so had to go.
3. The melee. Sadly we are the common denominator and while it looked like Comer was the instigator we have only ourselves to blame for getting involved. Again.
4. The gouge. I do not believe for one second, and wonít be convinced otherwise, that he meant to do that. However he did it. The pictures donít look good and he will have to face the consequences of his own actions and take whatever ban comes his way.
5. Penalties. What more can I say. Gutted to lose that way

Lastly, and it is with a heavy heart that I wrote this. I am ashamed to be an Armagh fan today. My nephew is 5. He was in the toilet with his dad. 5 grown men. Armagh supporters, got into a fight. One of them knocked my nephew over. The lad is traumatised. He will get over it but will he want to go back to a game again? Woukd you blame him if he didnít. The guys were wearing Armagh tops. My nephew thought they were players ffs. At this stage I am not sure I want to go back to a game.

Anyway. Best of luck to Galway against Derry in the semifinal

Tonto, I'm guessing you're either a relative or friend of the player involved but the worst possible thing anyone can do is pretend that was accidental Excuse it with a rush of the blood moment or whatever but noone associated with Armagh GAA should make an excuse for it. Just call it for what it is ffs

Same club tho my playing days are long since over and I donít actually know him. I wrote that having only seen the photo. Iíve since seen the video and canít excuse him. He will have a deserved ban coming. I hope he takes it and learns from it and moves on from it. Also hope he is allowed to move on from it. As has been said, the witch hunt on SM is behind a joke

Fairly reasoned post there tbh. Sorry the young one got caught up in that
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Baile BrigŪn 2 on June 27, 2022, 12:06:36 AM
Everyone involved in the melee should be suspended from inter county football for the rest of 2022.

On the basis Tiernan Kelly had no business being on the pitch, treat him like the Louth fans in 2010 and give him a day out in court.

I'm serious. It's not a schmozzle when pitch invasions are involved.
Did you call for Philly McMahon to see court when he gouged?

He was a player not a spectator so a different set of rules apply.

But I wouldn't have complained if he took a ban.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 27, 2022, 12:14:45 AM
Row as usual could been sorted by 2 lads when Donaghy had seperate them, as usual both sets of players plus subs again piled in. No f**king discpline in players 1. Because managers don't deal with it, 2. Melees make it harder to identify  culprits. 3.players don't take responsibility for their actions, 4.Gaa don't bother their ass to sort it out and take a rugby type discipline approach, limit the rule book on appeals, close all loop holes, any appealed decision doubled if unsuccessful. How many other sports do you seen this shambles, with the usual it's only handbags, nobody got hurt etc to define it. It makes the Gaa a laughing stock.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Baile BrigŪn 2 on June 27, 2022, 12:21:08 AM
Genuine question.

Why are non playing panel members on or near the pitch? How many of these mills see lads hopping a fence to get stuck in. Are there any rules around this?

Treat them like the rest of the paying public - pitch invaders - abd it will stop immediately.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Throw ball on June 27, 2022, 12:25:55 AM
Just home. Some thoughts.
1. Wel done Galway. Better team. Deserved winners. It was a smash and grab raid at the end from us. We never really got going otherwise.
2. The ref. No complaints. He gave some soft frees but against both teams. I thought McCabe made a fair but hard shoulder challenge but apparently he raised his arm so had to go.
3. The melee. Sadly we are the common denominator and while it looked like Comer was the instigator we have only ourselves to blame for getting involved. Again.
4. The gouge. I do not believe for one second, and wonít be convinced otherwise, that he meant to do that. However he did it. The pictures donít look good and he will have to face the consequences of his own actions and take whatever ban comes his way.
5. Penalties. What more can I say. Gutted to lose that way

Lastly, and it is with a heavy heart that I wrote this. I am ashamed to be an Armagh fan today. My nephew is 5. He was in the toilet with his dad. 5 grown men. Armagh supporters, got into a fight. One of them knocked my nephew over. The lad is traumatised. He will get over it but will he want to go back to a game again? Woukd you blame him if he didnít. The guys were wearing Armagh tops. My nephew thought they were players ffs. At this stage I am not sure I want to go back to a game.

Anyway. Best of luck to Galway against Derry in the semifinal

Tonto, I'm guessing you're either a relative or friend of the player involved but the worst possible thing anyone can do is pretend that was accidental Excuse it with a rush of the blood moment or whatever but noone associated with Armagh GAA should make an excuse for it. Just call it for what it is ffs

Same club tho my playing days are long since over and I donít actually know him. I wrote that having only seen the photo. Iíve since seen the video and canít excuse him. He will have a deserved ban coming. I hope he takes it and learns from it and moves on from it. Also hope he is allowed to move on from it. As has been said, the witch hunt on SM is behind a joke

Fairly reasoned post there tbh. Sorry the young one got caught up in that

Tonto I hope you nephew is OK. With so many supporters there you will sadly always get some prats.

I agree with your on Kelly. He let himself and team mates down. He will realise that. Let him take his ban and learn from it. Many won't agree but he will need support too to cope with the repercussions.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: SG08 on June 27, 2022, 12:29:04 AM
Armagh unlucky. Red card was a horroble decision. Armagh will be happy with their 2 all irelands this year after beating tyrone and after beating donegal. First round of ulster and all ireland quarter final to show for it
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 27, 2022, 12:31:00 AM
And what about the nxt time their another Armagh melee, will the subs ever learn to stay out of it, if the managers attitude is, someone pushes you, push them back. He still on the playground in primary school or sthing?
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 27, 2022, 12:33:29 AM
I thought the red card was wrong and only a yellow originally but the replays showed different. Armagh should lost Morgan as well.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: galwayman on June 27, 2022, 12:39:43 AM
Only just seen the footage of the full time incident.
Dirty tr**p needs to get a lengthy ban.
I just donít get this gouging stuff at all and why anyone would even attempt it. Itís pure cowardice
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Eire90 on June 27, 2022, 12:40:08 AM
wonder if it will be on nolan first thing tommorow
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: An Watcher on June 27, 2022, 12:42:21 AM
I think it's all Tyrones fault
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: galwayman on June 27, 2022, 12:43:12 AM
Sean Kelly did absolutely nothing to warrant a red card. f**king joke.
Ditto the Armagh number 13 did absolutely nothing either and got red.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 27, 2022, 12:44:16 AM
You make your bed you lie in it, sane in life, and generally if youíre a **** youíll act a **** daily, whoever goes out and tries to gouge someoneís eye out is a **** and deserves all that comes his way

..............ah now, let him without sin cast the first stone.
I'd say MR has had a day in the club.

Nope, came home after refereeing, watched that and thought pure **** action, and anyone defending it is a Cnut.

Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: onefineday on June 27, 2022, 12:58:49 AM
Row as usual could been sorted by 2 lads when Donaghy had seperate them, as usual both sets of players plus subs again piled in. No f**king discpline in players 1. Because managers don't deal with it, 2. Melees make it harder to identify  culprits. 3.players don't take responsibility for their actions, 4.Gaa don't bother their ass to sort it out and take a rugby type discipline approach, limit the rule book on appeals, close all loop holes, any appealed decision doubled if unsuccessful. How many other sports do you seen this shambles, with the usual it's only handbags, nobody got hurt etc to define it. It makes the Gaa a laughing stock.
Spot on. It's time we in the gaa started accepting the consequences of the actions of our players. It starts with management and extends to club and county officials, player clearly transgresses, gets punished, accept the punishment - don't look for some procedural technicality to get the player off.
Of course, the gaa could speed this along by engaging a team of suitably qualified legal personnel to make the rules, sanction and appeals procedures water tight. Might take a few hundred K, but it would be money well spent.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: onefineday on June 27, 2022, 01:01:14 AM
Sean Kelly did absolutely nothing to warrant a red card. f**king joke.
Ditto the Armagh number 13 did absolutely nothing either and got red.
From what I saw Kelly was a credit to his team and county. Without wanting to be a total hypocrite in light of my last post, he needs to appeal🤭🤭
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Main Street on June 27, 2022, 01:28:29 AM
Genuine question.

Why are non playing panel members on or near the pitch? How many of these mills see lads hopping a fence to get stuck in. Are there any rules around this?

Treat them like the rest of the paying public - pitch invaders - abd it will stop immediately.
Funny that you felt a need to preface your post with 'genuine question' as if being genuine is the exception.
There is a rule covering the unauthorised entry of non players onto the pitch and getting involved in affairs, Darren Hughes was given a ban for such a deed.
You can look it up in the book.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: trileacman on June 27, 2022, 05:46:05 AM
Genuine question.

Why are non playing panel members on or near the pitch? How many of these mills see lads hopping a fence to get stuck in. Are there any rules around this?

Treat them like the rest of the paying public - pitch invaders - abd it will stop immediately.
Funny that you felt a need to preface your post with 'genuine question' as if being genuine is the exception.
There is a rule covering the unauthorised entry of non players onto the pitch and getting involved in affairs, Darren Hughes was given a ban for such a deed.
You can look it up in the book.

They get away with it all the time though. AOS came on last year after being subbed for being shit and started a melee. He should have been banned for the final but of course got off cause itís GAA rules
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Armagh18 on June 27, 2022, 06:46:55 AM
After seeing Armagh's red card and behaviour today, I think we've been wrong about Tyrone - compared to other teams in Ulster, Tyrone are a sporting, clean, non-cynical team of good honest men.

With the Galway goalkeeper having such a horror show today, you'd have thought the Armagh penalty takers would have been told to at least keep their penalties on target.
Feck sake if only theyíd thought of that.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 27, 2022, 07:00:57 AM
In fairness to PŠdraic Joyce he called it like it is. 

Quote
Choice of penalties by the GAA is 'disgraceful'

"It's a horrible way to lose it and that's not the fault of the Armagh players, it's the fault of the GAA and the condensed season,"

"My heart goes out to Armagh. Kieran McGeeney and the boys have put in a savage effort; they have been the form team and their supporters brought fantastic colour down here today. The roar when Rian O'Neill levelled the game in normal time was deafening.

"It beggars belief as to why we couldn't have had a replay next weekend. That might sound simple for me to say because we won the game, but that was my over-riding feeling at full-time.

"It such a hard way to lose a game after putting in such an effort over the last couple; Kieran has put so much work in with them and we've also put in the work over the last two or three years, training Tuesdays and Thursdays, and at weekends. To decide the outcome on a penalty shootout.... we're not soccer, we're GAA. To me it's disgraceful it had to happen."

Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Armagh18 on June 27, 2022, 07:45:42 AM
In fairness to PŠdraic Joyce he called it like it is. 

Quote
Choice of penalties by the GAA is 'disgraceful'

"It's a horrible way to lose it and that's not the fault of the Armagh players, it's the fault of the GAA and the condensed season,"

"My heart goes out to Armagh. Kieran McGeeney and the boys have put in a savage effort; they have been the form team and their supporters brought fantastic colour down here today. The roar when Rian O'Neill levelled the game in normal time was deafening.

"It beggars belief as to why we couldn't have had a replay next weekend. That might sound simple for me to say because we won the game, but that was my over-riding feeling at full-time.

"It such a hard way to lose a game after putting in such an effort over the last couple; Kieran has put so much work in with them and we've also put in the work over the last two or three years, training Tuesdays and Thursdays, and at weekends. To decide the outcome on a penalty shootout.... we're not soccer, we're GAA. To me it's disgraceful it had to happen."
Yeah I think most are in agreement about that.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: marty34 on June 27, 2022, 07:56:05 AM
Genuine question.

Why are non playing panel members on or near the pitch? How many of these mills see lads hopping a fence to get stuck in. Are there any rules around this?

Treat them like the rest of the paying public - pitch invaders - abd it will stop immediately.

Was thinking do they all actually go into the changing room at half-time and before extra-time?

Changing room isn't that overly big so it must be jam packed.

You'd think manager would only want 20 players or so in there plus management and physios etc.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Gael80 on June 27, 2022, 07:56:40 AM
Some one has to be disappointed. Dragging this out for another week for Amateur players is wrong. If you are good enough to win over 70+ or 90+ minutes then good. If not you can't have any complaints going out to penalties.

Media sources will say otherwise because they want to sell more papers, podcasts, TV advertising etc.

I'd disagree, it was unfair on amateur players and a lost opportunity for football as a whole. We probably can't allow two replays so a decide on the day rule could possibly be brought in for the replay, but if it's a draw after extra time on match one it should be a replay, amateur players deserve that at least.

Football hasn't had a great season overall a replay would have increased interest across the country, who wouldn't have watched Armagh Galway part 2. The fact a lot of inter county players have headed stateside which they're right to do shows the idea of the spilt season hasn't had the expected benefit for clubs.

I don't expect next season QF's to be decided on pens on day 1, I think they'll find room in the schedule for at least one replay after such a high profile, epic game went that way yesterday.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: marty34 on June 27, 2022, 07:57:41 AM
Row as usual could been sorted by 2 lads when Donaghy had seperate them, as usual both sets of players plus subs again piled in. No f**king discpline in players 1. Because managers don't deal with it, 2. Melees make it harder to identify  culprits. 3.players don't take responsibility for their actions, 4.Gaa don't bother their ass to sort it out and take a rugby type discipline approach, limit the rule book on appeals, close all loop holes, any appealed decision doubled if unsuccessful. How many other sports do you seen this shambles, with the usual it's only handbags, nobody got hurt etc to define it. It makes the Gaa a laughing stock.

Good post.

GAA could nip a lot of this in the bud.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: BennyHarp on June 27, 2022, 07:58:41 AM
Itíll be interesting to see how many suspensions get handed out. How a ref can stand back and send multiple Tyrone men off in a league game for contributing to a melee then another ref stands back and sends one each off yesterday just really does make a joke of the GAA rules. Unfortunately, if a large number of players arenít suspended it will be used as a precedent for appeals for the next 20 years.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: marty34 on June 27, 2022, 07:59:38 AM
Sean Kelly did absolutely nothing to warrant a red card. f**king joke.
Ditto the Armagh number 13 did absolutely nothing either and got red.

TSG last night said the GAA said they were both sent off for contributing to a melee.

I know, strange.

Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Armagh18 on June 27, 2022, 07:59:40 AM
Row as usual could been sorted by 2 lads when Donaghy had seperate them, as usual both sets of players plus subs again piled in. No f**king discpline in players 1. Because managers don't deal with it, 2. Melees make it harder to identify  culprits. 3.players don't take responsibility for their actions, 4.Gaa don't bother their ass to sort it out and take a rugby type discipline approach, limit the rule book on appeals, close all loop holes, any appealed decision doubled if unsuccessful. How many other sports do you seen this shambles, with the usual it's only handbags, nobody got hurt etc to define it. It makes the Gaa a laughing stock.
Itís not that big of a deal. Give Kelly a ban for the eye gouging and move on.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Armagh18 on June 27, 2022, 08:02:09 AM
Sean Kelly did absolutely nothing to warrant a red card. f**king joke.
Ditto the Armagh number 13 did absolutely nothing either and got red.
Yeah Kelly seemed to be trying to calm the thing down in fairness to him. Not sure what the ref saw. Hope Kelly gets off on appeal for the semi and the very best of luck to yourselves in it. Got chatting to a few Galway ones on the way in and out and all sound people.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: BennyHarp on June 27, 2022, 08:14:57 AM
Sean Kelly did absolutely nothing to warrant a red card. f**king joke.
Ditto the Armagh number 13 did absolutely nothing either and got red.

TSG last night said the GAA said they were both sent off for contributing to a melee.

I know, strange.

In which case 25 red cards should have been issued.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Dreadnought on June 27, 2022, 08:25:14 AM
Some one has to be disappointed. Dragging this out for another week for Amateur players is wrong. If you are good enough to win over 70+ or 90+ minutes then good. If not you can't have any complaints going out to penalties.

Media sources will say otherwise because they want to sell more papers, podcasts, TV advertising etc.

I'd disagree, it was unfair on amateur players and a lost opportunity for football as a whole. We probably can't allow two replays so a decide on the day rule could possibly be brought in for the replay, but if it's a draw after extra time on match one it should be a replay, amateur players deserve that at least.

Football hasn't had a great season overall a replay would have increased interest across the country, who wouldn't have watched Armagh Galway part 2. The fact a lot of inter county players have headed stateside which they're right to do shows the idea of the spilt season hasn't had the expected benefit for clubs.

I don't expect next season QF's to be decided on pens on day 1, I think they'll find room in the schedule for at least one replay after such a high profile, epic game went that way yesterday.

Where do you get the time for replays? Like honestly, where? Is it only for quarter finals onwards, what about provincials? Simply put, with the new calendar, we've no place. Sure, there's a weekend coming up next, but that's set for hurling, and if we did decide to throw in a replay, one team would be out 3 weekends in a row. And wasn't next weekend always set as a day off? What if the players had something organised, and would have to cancel and such. Look, penalties are harsh enough way, but we all knew before the season started that it was this way, no replays. We'll get used to it. It's better this way in the long run
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: sam03/05 on June 27, 2022, 08:25:26 AM
The only suspension out of it all should be the Armagh eye gouger - the rest was handbags - bit of pushing
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Dreadnought on June 27, 2022, 08:27:43 AM
And another thing, if some are going to come up with other ideas, at least put some thought into them. Next score wins? 2 scores in a row? How on earth is this meant to be implemented fairly. What if there's a gale wind favouring one team? Penalties are tough, but are fair as you get your chances to take and save them. And it gets finished within a certain period of time.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Gael80 on June 27, 2022, 08:41:44 AM
Some one has to be disappointed. Dragging this out for another week for Amateur players is wrong. If you are good enough to win over 70+ or 90+ minutes then good. If not you can't have any complaints going out to penalties.

Media sources will say otherwise because they want to sell more papers, podcasts, TV advertising etc.

I'd disagree, it was unfair on amateur players and a lost opportunity for football as a whole. We probably can't allow two replays so a decide on the day rule could possibly be brought in for the replay, but if it's a draw after extra time on match one it should be a replay, amateur players deserve that at least.

Football hasn't had a great season overall a replay would have increased interest across the country, who wouldn't have watched Armagh Galway part 2. The fact a lot of inter county players have headed stateside which they're right to do shows the idea of the spilt season hasn't had the expected benefit for clubs.

I don't expect next season QF's to be decided on pens on day 1, I think they'll find room in the schedule for at least one replay after such a high profile, epic game went that way yesterday.

Where do you get the time for replays? Like honestly, where? Is it only for quarter finals onwards, what about provincials? Simply put, with the new calendar, we've no place. Sure, there's a weekend coming up next, but that's set for hurling, and if we did decide to throw in a replay, one team would be out 3 weekends in a row. And wasn't next weekend always set as a day off? What if the players had something organised, and would have to cancel and such. Look, penalties are harsh enough way, but we all knew before the season started that it was this way, no replays. We'll get used to it. It's better this way in the long run

I agree you make the rules at the start so yesterday had to be decided that way. However when the plan becomes reality and you see an epic game in the All Ireland series going that way, with players cramping up some common sense has to take over.

We are not soccer and these are not professional players, they give a huge commitment to their county and getting to the All Ireland series takes a lot of hard work. The All Ireland Final has replays, my point is this needs and I expect will be extended to at least one replay throughout the All Ireland series ( QF onwards).

The inter county season will have to be extended by a few weeks but from a marketing perspective this season's championships have been a disaster so I expect All Ireland Finals to be pushed back into August anyhow after a review so there is space.

Amateur players have every right to take up opportunities in America but it shows a lot will use the short season for this benefit other than return straight back to the clubs, obviously not every players does this but the numbers are high. This is unlikely to be lost on the GAA when they review the split season dates and that is another reason I think we'll see All Ireland Finals being played in August.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Taylor on June 27, 2022, 08:44:21 AM
A lot of talking points.

The red card was harsh enough

ONeill could have saw red for a slap to the face - got a yellow instead so not sure how it was a yellow

Armagh #2 barged into Comer on the way off the field - that started the row - but bar the eye gouging nothing else really happened and the two boys who got the reds can feel rightly aggrieved

A lengthy ban for the eye gouging - the pitchforks are out in force online for that fella.

Galway keeper will not enjoy the game v Derry if he plays - will be put under immense pressure after yesterday

If people had such an issue with penalties then they should have been brought up long before now

While entertaining and exciting neither of these teams would be able to live with Derry

Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Rossfan on June 27, 2022, 08:52:29 AM
If we bring back replays next year from PQFs on it will take about 9 weekends to play the knockout stages because
"You can't have amateur players playing 3 weekends in a row"
If we push AI Finals back to say 2nd and 3rd weekends in August you'll be back to rushed Club Championships in Counties getting to closing stages. Remember "fix the fixtures"?
Listening to Cavanagh on the SG ranting about  a replay next weekend... did he hear about the Hurling Semi Finals or did he want the game in Thurles, Limerick or Cork?
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Dreadnought on June 27, 2022, 08:54:12 AM

Where do you get the time for replays? Like honestly, where? Is it only for quarter finals onwards, what about provincials? Simply put, with the new calendar, we've no place. Sure, there's a weekend coming up next, but that's set for hurling, and if we did decide to throw in a replay, one team would be out 3 weekends in a row. And wasn't next weekend always set as a day off? What if the players had something organised, and would have to cancel and such. Look, penalties are harsh enough way, but we all knew before the season started that it was this way, no replays. We'll get used to it. It's better this way in the long run

I agree you make the rules at the start so yesterday had to be decided that way. However when the plan becomes reality and you see an epic game in the All Ireland series going that way, with players cramping up some common sense has to take over.

We are not soccer and these are not professional players, they give a huge commitment to their county and getting to the All Ireland series takes a lot of hard work. The All Ireland Final has replays, my point is this needs and I expect will be extended to at least one replay throughout the All Ireland series ( QF onwards).

The inter county season will have to be extended by a few weeks but from a marketing perspective this season's championships have been a disaster so I expect All Ireland Finals to be pushed back into August anyhow after a review so there is space.

Amateur players have every right to take up opportunities in America but it shows a lot will use the short season for this benefit other than return straight back to the clubs, obviously not every players does this but the numbers are high. This is unlikely to be lost on the GAA when they review the split season dates and that is another reason I think we'll see All Ireland Finals being played in August.

Replays are done, we've known about it this year and need to accept it. Yes, we're not soccer, but penalties have been a part of our game for ages now, so it's not like it's something not from the game. With the calendar we set out, and load on players, it's finish on the day and we just need to get with it. It's harsh, but we know our winners now. They tried other things and they didn't work as well
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: thewobbler on June 27, 2022, 08:58:16 AM
When you donít win a match, you do not deserve to stay in a competition.

The winners of a penalty shoot out are lucky. They only remain in the competition because we need even number of teams at each stage. The losersÖ. they get what they deserve.

People should rein in sob stories for teams that werenít good enough to win.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 27, 2022, 09:00:35 AM
A lot of talking points.

The red card was harsh enough

ONeill could have saw red for a slap to the face - got a yellow instead so not sure how it was a yellow

Armagh #2 barged into Comer on the way off the field - that started the row - but bar the eye gouging nothing else really happened and the two boys who got the reds can feel rightly aggrieved

A lengthy ban for the eye gouging - the pitchforks are out in force online for that fella.

Galway keeper will not enjoy the game v Derry if he plays - will be put under immense pressure after yesterday

If people had such an issue with penalties then they should have been brought up long before now

While entertaining and exciting neither of these teams would be able to live with Derry

I know it was the league, not sure the importance of that game to Derry had they beaten Galway, but they won handy enough in Owenbeg, and certainly won't fear them. Bar that crazy 7 minutes Galway were winning handy enough..

Good to see a 'proper' set of semi finals winners of the provinces, Derry played the weakest team and did what they had to do, Dublin could have done better but they'll be happy enough. Kerry didnt play as well as they have done and Galway will be confident enough
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Gael80 on June 27, 2022, 09:04:54 AM

Where do you get the time for replays? Like honestly, where? Is it only for quarter finals onwards, what about provincials? Simply put, with the new calendar, we've no place. Sure, there's a weekend coming up next, but that's set for hurling, and if we did decide to throw in a replay, one team would be out 3 weekends in a row. And wasn't next weekend always set as a day off? What if the players had something organised, and would have to cancel and such. Look, penalties are harsh enough way, but we all knew before the season started that it was this way, no replays. We'll get used to it. It's better this way in the long run

I agree you make the rules at the start so yesterday had to be decided that way. However when the plan becomes reality and you see an epic game in the All Ireland series going that way, with players cramping up some common sense has to take over.

We are not soccer and these are not professional players, they give a huge commitment to their county and getting to the All Ireland series takes a lot of hard work. The All Ireland Final has replays, my point is this needs and I expect will be extended to at least one replay throughout the All Ireland series ( QF onwards).

The inter county season will have to be extended by a few weeks but from a marketing perspective this season's championships have been a disaster so I expect All Ireland Finals to be pushed back into August anyhow after a review so there is space.

Amateur players have every right to take up opportunities in America but it shows a lot will use the short season for this benefit other than return straight back to the clubs, obviously not every players does this but the numbers are high. This is unlikely to be lost on the GAA when they review the split season dates and that is another reason I think we'll see All Ireland Finals being played in August.

Replays are done, we've known about it this year and need to accept it. Yes, we're not soccer, but penalties have been a part of our game for ages now, so it's not like it's something not from the game. With the calendar we set out, and load on players, it's finish on the day and we just need to get with it. It's harsh, but we know our winners now. They tried other things and they didn't work as well

I guess at the minute replays are gone but it isn't a rule can never be reviewed again. We try things and review them which is the right thing to do.

There is a huge opinion out there this morning that deciding an All Ireland QF on penalties was wrong led by a football legend and Galway manager who won them yesterday.

It needs a review and in my opinion I fully expect they will be reviewed in the wider split season discussion. It is a football side of things people disagree with it on but from a business viewpoint the GAA lost at least 30,000 ticket sales depending on what venue would of been available, is this sustainable when the reason for the split season isn't having the planned effect ie inter county players immediately returning to their clubs earlier!

We're trying to find the perfect system and there will be some trial and error over the next few years with it, my guess is replays will be included throughout the All Ireland series going forward with space found to accommdate them.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: tiempo on June 27, 2022, 09:13:43 AM

Where do you get the time for replays? Like honestly, where? Is it only for quarter finals onwards, what about provincials? Simply put, with the new calendar, we've no place. Sure, there's a weekend coming up next, but that's set for hurling, and if we did decide to throw in a replay, one team would be out 3 weekends in a row. And wasn't next weekend always set as a day off? What if the players had something organised, and would have to cancel and such. Look, penalties are harsh enough way, but we all knew before the season started that it was this way, no replays. We'll get used to it. It's better this way in the long run

I agree you make the rules at the start so yesterday had to be decided that way. However when the plan becomes reality and you see an epic game in the All Ireland series going that way, with players cramping up some common sense has to take over.

We are not soccer and these are not professional players, they give a huge commitment to their county and getting to the All Ireland series takes a lot of hard work. The All Ireland Final has replays, my point is this needs and I expect will be extended to at least one replay throughout the All Ireland series ( QF onwards).

The inter county season will have to be extended by a few weeks but from a marketing perspective this season's championships have been a disaster so I expect All Ireland Finals to be pushed back into August anyhow after a review so there is space.

Amateur players have every right to take up opportunities in America but it shows a lot will use the short season for this benefit other than return straight back to the clubs, obviously not every players does this but the numbers are high. This is unlikely to be lost on the GAA when they review the split season dates and that is another reason I think we'll see All Ireland Finals being played in August.

Replays are done, we've known about it this year and need to accept it. Yes, we're not soccer, but penalties have been a part of our game for ages now, so it's not like it's something not from the game. With the calendar we set out, and load on players, it's finish on the day and we just need to get with it. It's harsh, but we know our winners now. They tried other things and they didn't work as well

I guess at the minute replays are gone but it isn't a rule can never be reviewed again. We try things and review them which is the right thing to do.

There is a huge opinion out there this morning that deciding an All Ireland QF on penalties was wrong led by a football legend and Galway manager who won them yesterday.

It needs a review and in my opinion I fully expect they will be reviewed in the wider split season discussion. It is a football side of things people disagree with it on but from a business viewpoint the GAA lost at least 30,000 ticket sales depending on what venue would of been available, is this sustainable when the reason for the split season isn't having the planned effect ie inter county players immediately returning to their clubs earlier!

We're trying to find the perfect system and there will be some trial and error over the next few years with it, my guess is replays will be included throughout the All Ireland series going forward with space found to accommdate them.

Impossible, penalties are a necessary evil, the days or replays are gone, for better and worse, times change, needs must
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: RedHand88 on June 27, 2022, 09:19:23 AM
There is absolutely nothing wrong with penalties. Anyone who expects players and fans to go to croke park 3 weekends in a row in the middle of a cost of living crisis forgets all the whinging there used to be about how expensive it was for families beforehand.
I feel like some people just do not want anything that comes from soccer in the GAA. Its anglophobia and belongs in the past.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Dreadnought on June 27, 2022, 09:21:17 AM

Where do you get the time for replays? Like honestly, where? Is it only for quarter finals onwards, what about provincials? Simply put, with the new calendar, we've no place. Sure, there's a weekend coming up next, but that's set for hurling, and if we did decide to throw in a replay, one team would be out 3 weekends in a row. And wasn't next weekend always set as a day off? What if the players had something organised, and would have to cancel and such. Look, penalties are harsh enough way, but we all knew before the season started that it was this way, no replays. We'll get used to it. It's better this way in the long run

I agree you make the rules at the start so yesterday had to be decided that way. However when the plan becomes reality and you see an epic game in the All Ireland series going that way, with players cramping up some common sense has to take over.

We are not soccer and these are not professional players, they give a huge commitment to their county and getting to the All Ireland series takes a lot of hard work. The All Ireland Final has replays, my point is this needs and I expect will be extended to at least one replay throughout the All Ireland series ( QF onwards).

The inter county season will have to be extended by a few weeks but from a marketing perspective this season's championships have been a disaster so I expect All Ireland Finals to be pushed back into August anyhow after a review so there is space.

Amateur players have every right to take up opportunities in America but it shows a lot will use the short season for this benefit other than return straight back to the clubs, obviously not every players does this but the numbers are high. This is unlikely to be lost on the GAA when they review the split season dates and that is another reason I think we'll see All Ireland Finals being played in August.

Replays are done, we've known about it this year and need to accept it. Yes, we're not soccer, but penalties have been a part of our game for ages now, so it's not like it's something not from the game. With the calendar we set out, and load on players, it's finish on the day and we just need to get with it. It's harsh, but we know our winners now. They tried other things and they didn't work as well

I guess at the minute replays are gone but it isn't a rule can never be reviewed again. We try things and review them which is the right thing to do.

There is a huge opinion out there this morning that deciding an All Ireland QF on penalties was wrong led by a football legend and Galway manager who won them yesterday.

It needs a review and in my opinion I fully expect they will be reviewed in the wider split season discussion. It is a football side of things people disagree with it on but from a business viewpoint the GAA lost at least 30,000 ticket sales depending on what venue would of been available, is this sustainable when the reason for the split season isn't having the planned effect ie inter county players immediately returning to their clubs earlier!

We're trying to find the perfect system and there will be some trial and error over the next few years with it, my guess is replays will be included throughout the All Ireland series going forward with space found to accommdate them.

We already tried frees from outside the D and other things. We need a winner, penalties are quick, and we got one. Can't see what's to review here, there's now no space in the calendar. All the other options people have offered or on TSG are far worse than the penalties. It's harsh like I say, but the best option overall when we have to finish on the day.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Gael80 on June 27, 2022, 09:23:26 AM

Where do you get the time for replays? Like honestly, where? Is it only for quarter finals onwards, what about provincials? Simply put, with the new calendar, we've no place. Sure, there's a weekend coming up next, but that's set for hurling, and if we did decide to throw in a replay, one team would be out 3 weekends in a row. And wasn't next weekend always set as a day off? What if the players had something organised, and would have to cancel and such. Look, penalties are harsh enough way, but we all knew before the season started that it was this way, no replays. We'll get used to it. It's better this way in the long run

I agree you make the rules at the start so yesterday had to be decided that way. However when the plan becomes reality and you see an epic game in the All Ireland series going that way, with players cramping up some common sense has to take over.

We are not soccer and these are not professional players, they give a huge commitment to their county and getting to the All Ireland series takes a lot of hard work. The All Ireland Final has replays, my point is this needs and I expect will be extended to at least one replay throughout the All Ireland series ( QF onwards).

The inter county season will have to be extended by a few weeks but from a marketing perspective this season's championships have been a disaster so I expect All Ireland Finals to be pushed back into August anyhow after a review so there is space.

Amateur players have every right to take up opportunities in America but it shows a lot will use the short season for this benefit other than return straight back to the clubs, obviously not every players does this but the numbers are high. This is unlikely to be lost on the GAA when they review the split season dates and that is another reason I think we'll see All Ireland Finals being played in August.

Replays are done, we've known about it this year and need to accept it. Yes, we're not soccer, but penalties have been a part of our game for ages now, so it's not like it's something not from the game. With the calendar we set out, and load on players, it's finish on the day and we just need to get with it. It's harsh, but we know our winners now. They tried other things and they didn't work as well

I guess at the minute replays are gone but it isn't a rule can never be reviewed again. We try things and review them which is the right thing to do.

There is a huge opinion out there this morning that deciding an All Ireland QF on penalties was wrong led by a football legend and Galway manager who won them yesterday.

It needs a review and in my opinion I fully expect they will be reviewed in the wider split season discussion. It is a football side of things people disagree with it on but from a business viewpoint the GAA lost at least 30,000 ticket sales depending on what venue would of been available, is this sustainable when the reason for the split season isn't having the planned effect ie inter county players immediately returning to their clubs earlier!

We're trying to find the perfect system and there will be some trial and error over the next few years with it, my guess is replays will be included throughout the All Ireland series going forward with space found to accommdate them.

Impossible, penalties are a necessary evil, the days or replays are gone, for better and worse, times change, needs must

We'll agree to disagree, in the world of finance the GAA will listen to the likes of Joyce and the public opinion on using penalties, with pressure being applied from sponsors and media. We seen the reality of the plan yesterday and I expect some head scratching in Croke Park this morning with some sponsors/media on the phone.

There would have to be compromise and the Dublin Meath saga could never happen again but after such a high profile game yesterday the GAA will use it to make a slight change again imo.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Dreadnought on June 27, 2022, 09:25:52 AM

We'll agree to disagree, in the world of finance the GAA will listen to the likes of Joyce and the public opinion on using penalties, with pressure being applied from sponsors and media. We seen the reality of the plan yesterday and I expect some head scratching in Croke Park this morning. There would have to be compromise and the Dublin Meath saga could never happen again but after such a high profile game yesterday the GAA will use it to make a slight change again imo.

The world of finance? The GAA are turning down lucrative replays here. For once, we can't throw the finance thing at them
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: thewobbler on June 27, 2022, 09:27:20 AM
That we borrowed penalties from soccer is not an issue. Itís a coin toss with an element of skill. Like poker.

But based on yesterday we also seem to have borrowed soccerís bizarre attitude to the closing stages of extra time, when both sides seemed to concur that itís better to take your chance on penalties than try to win the game on the field.

Why do soccer managers follow this mantra? Seeing out games they could win.

Hence I really think GAA folk need to get ahead with the concept that if you donít win the game, you donít deserve to go through. If this approach is loved by players in the closing stages of tight games, it would make for a more thrilling spectacle.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: tiempo on June 27, 2022, 09:28:03 AM
There is absolutely nothing wrong with penalties. Anyone who expects players and fans to go to croke park 3 weekends in a row in the middle of a cost of living crisis forgets all the whinging there used to be about how expensive it was for families beforehand.
I feel like some people just do not want anything that comes from soccer in the GAA. Its anglophobia and belongs in the past.

We're living through a take your beatings crisis in the GAA where priority is whining like f**k about everything except the fact your team was second best and accepting defeat like a he/she/they/them
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Redhand Santa on June 27, 2022, 09:28:29 AM
Penalties is not a gaa skill and should never be used to determine the winner of such an important match - it's a lottery. At this stage of championship I'd prefer replays (with a much reduced admission price). If this isn't possible then ball thrown in again and next score wins (toss for who plays which way - the wind might be an advantage). This would make much more sense than penalties and wouldn't take too long to determine the winner.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Dreadnought on June 27, 2022, 09:28:44 AM
There is absolutely nothing wrong with penalties. Anyone who expects players and fans to go to croke park 3 weekends in a row in the middle of a cost of living crisis forgets all the whinging there used to be about how expensive it was for families beforehand.
I feel like some people just do not want anything that comes from soccer in the GAA. Its anglophobia and belongs in the past.

Indeed, we've had penalties in GAA for ages now, so a penalty shootout is not a far reach. And not just soccer. Penalty shootouts happen in other sport too, like ice hockey. And I think it's the best option. Each team has a chance to either take or save each one. Can't do that with frees or 45s. Yesterday both takers and keepers had the chance to effect the results of the game, and Galway came out winners. Armagh had their chances
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Gael80 on June 27, 2022, 09:31:57 AM

We'll agree to disagree, in the world of finance the GAA will listen to the likes of Joyce and the public opinion on using penalties, with pressure being applied from sponsors and media. We seen the reality of the plan yesterday and I expect some head scratching in Croke Park this morning. There would have to be compromise and the Dublin Meath saga could never happen again but after such a high profile game yesterday the GAA will use it to make a slight change again imo.

The world of finance? The GAA are turning down lucrative replays here. For once, we can't throw the finance thing at them

😂.. no we can't to be fair but is it sustainable? My opinion like many is more about fairness on the players but when we think about it, the GAA are potentially throwing away over Ä1million, imagine a semi final goes the same way as yesterday. Media and sponsors would of loved another Armagh v Galway game in a packed stadium. I think decide on the day in the first match is crazy and when common sense takes over the authorities will all agree.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Dreadnought on June 27, 2022, 09:33:28 AM
Penalties is not a gaa skill and should never be used to determine the winner of such an important match - it's a lottery. At this stage of championship I'd prefer replays (with a much reduced admission price). If this isn't possible then ball thrown in again and next score wins (toss for who plays which way - the wind might be an advantage). This would make much more sense than penalties and wouldn't take too long to determine the winner.

Well I must have missed it when penalties have been used in GAA for ages now for fouls in the box. And not a lottery, both the taker and keeper can affect the outcome of the kick. Nowhere near a lottery at all. Galway supposedly practiced them, at the end of challenge matches. They trained for it, and won it.

How does next score win work in a gale force win? That now is far more of a lottery than penalties... You can't call it that, and then give that suggestion.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Dreadnought on June 27, 2022, 09:34:57 AM

We'll agree to disagree, in the world of finance the GAA will listen to the likes of Joyce and the public opinion on using penalties, with pressure being applied from sponsors and media. We seen the reality of the plan yesterday and I expect some head scratching in Croke Park this morning. There would have to be compromise and the Dublin Meath saga could never happen again but after such a high profile game yesterday the GAA will use it to make a slight change again imo.

The world of finance? The GAA are turning down lucrative replays here. For once, we can't throw the finance thing at them

😂.. no we can't to be fair but is it sustainable? My opinion like many is more about fairness on the players but when we think about it, the GAA are potentially throwing away over Ä1million, imagine a semi final goes the same way as yesterday. Media and sponsors would of loved another Armagh v Galway game in a packed stadium. I think decide on the day in the first match is crazy and when common sense takes over the authorities will all agree.

But we can't have it both ways, especially in these times. Are we expecting players and supporters of one of teh teams go out to Croke Park 3 weekends in a row now? We've known about this all year. A big game would always have these discussions, but we'll get used to it and move on
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: smort on June 27, 2022, 09:41:10 AM
Think i'd prefer penalties taken from the hands if we have to have penalty shootouts. People saying that other sports have penalties, but those penalties represent skills and actions that are practiced and performed in all moments of training/games, gaelic football does not have this. Only a few players on each team practice hitting stationary ballls from the ground into the net or over the bar, and these skills are often practiced outside of actually training time. What we need is something that all players partake in, at all times, a skill innate to the game
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Armagh18 on June 27, 2022, 09:41:51 AM

We'll agree to disagree, in the world of finance the GAA will listen to the likes of Joyce and the public opinion on using penalties, with pressure being applied from sponsors and media. We seen the reality of the plan yesterday and I expect some head scratching in Croke Park this morning. There would have to be compromise and the Dublin Meath saga could never happen again but after such a high profile game yesterday the GAA will use it to make a slight change again imo.

The world of finance? The GAA are turning down lucrative replays here. For once, we can't throw the finance thing at them

😂.. no we can't to be fair but is it sustainable? My opinion like many is more about fairness on the players but when we think about it, the GAA are potentially throwing away over Ä1million, imagine a semi final goes the same way as yesterday. Media and sponsors would of loved another Armagh v Galway game in a packed stadium. I think decide on the day in the first match is crazy and when common sense takes over the authorities will all agree.

But we can't have it both ways, especially in these times. Are we expecting players and supporters of one of teh teams go out to Croke Park 3 weekends in a row now? We've known about this all year. A big game would always have these discussions, but we'll get used to it and move on
Happily. Cut ticket prices for a replay though.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Gael80 on June 27, 2022, 09:41:58 AM

We'll agree to disagree, in the world of finance the GAA will listen to the likes of Joyce and the public opinion on using penalties, with pressure being applied from sponsors and media. We seen the reality of the plan yesterday and I expect some head scratching in Croke Park this morning. There would have to be compromise and the Dublin Meath saga could never happen again but after such a high profile game yesterday the GAA will use it to make a slight change again imo.

The world of finance? The GAA are turning down lucrative replays here. For once, we can't throw the finance thing at them

😂.. no we can't to be fair but is it sustainable? My opinion like many is more about fairness on the players but when we think about it, the GAA are potentially throwing away over Ä1million, imagine a semi final goes the same way as yesterday. Media and sponsors would of loved another Armagh v Galway game in a packed stadium. I think decide on the day in the first match is crazy and when common sense takes over the authorities will all agree.

But we can't have it both ways, especially in these times. Are we expecting players and supporters of one of teh teams go out to Croke Park 3 weekends in a row now? We've known about this all year. A big game would always have these discussions, but we'll get used to it and move on

No we wouldn't expect that or shouldn't but that is why pushing the All Ireland Finals into August would allow the space for at least one replay if required. We aren't going to agree which is ok, lets see what happens when the split season is fully reviewed which is planned.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Redhand Santa on June 27, 2022, 09:43:36 AM
Penalties is not a gaa skill and should never be used to determine the winner of such an important match - it's a lottery. At this stage of championship I'd prefer replays (with a much reduced admission price). If this isn't possible then ball thrown in again and next score wins (toss for who plays which way - the wind might be an advantage). This would make much more sense than penalties and wouldn't take too long to determine the winner.

Well I must have missed it when penalties have been used in GAA for ages now for fouls in the box. And not a lottery, both the taker and keeper can affect the outcome of the kick. Nowhere near a lottery at all. Galway supposedly practiced them, at the end of challenge matches. They trained for it, and won it.

How does next score win work in a gale force win? That now is far more of a lottery than penalties... You can't call it that, and then give that suggestion.

It's a lottery as it's not a skill of the game. I'd much prefer the game won using next score. The wind could be a factor (but won't be a lot of times for big games in the summer) but that's part of every match (sometimes it only picks up for a half giving a team advantage etc).
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: marty34 on June 27, 2022, 09:43:54 AM
There is absolutely nothing wrong with penalties. Anyone who expects players and fans to go to croke park 3 weekends in a row in the middle of a cost of living crisis forgets all the whinging there used to be about how expensive it was for families beforehand.
I feel like some people just do not want anything that comes from soccer in the GAA. Its anglophobia and belongs in the past.

Penalties:
Losers hate them obviously.

Winners are happy but will say it's a terrible way to lose blah, blah, blah.

Neutrals think it's the best way to finish on the day.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Armagh18 on June 27, 2022, 09:45:40 AM
There is absolutely nothing wrong with penalties. Anyone who expects players and fans to go to croke park 3 weekends in a row in the middle of a cost of living crisis forgets all the whinging there used to be about how expensive it was for families beforehand.
I feel like some people just do not want anything that comes from soccer in the GAA. Its anglophobia and belongs in the past.

Penalties:
Losers hate them obviously.

Winners are happy but will say it's a terrible way to lose blah, blah, blah.

Neutrals think it's the best way to finish on the day.
Most neutrals seem to be saying itís no way to lose any match.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: tiempo on June 27, 2022, 09:46:11 AM
Think i'd prefer penalties taken from the hands if we have to have penalty shootouts. People saying that other sports have penalties, but those penalties represent skills and actions that are practiced and performed in all moments of training/games, gaelic football does not have this. Only a few players on each team practice hitting stationary ballls from the ground into the net or over the bar, and these skills are often practiced outside of actually training time. What we need is something that all players partake in, at all times, a skill innate to the game

What fresh hell is this 😭
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: marty34 on June 27, 2022, 09:53:45 AM
There is absolutely nothing wrong with penalties. Anyone who expects players and fans to go to croke park 3 weekends in a row in the middle of a cost of living crisis forgets all the whinging there used to be about how expensive it was for families beforehand.
I feel like some people just do not want anything that comes from soccer in the GAA. Its anglophobia and belongs in the past.

Penalties:
Losers hate them obviously.

Winners are happy but will say it's a terrible way to lose blah, blah, blah.

Neutrals think it's the best way to finish on the day.
Most neutrals seem to be saying itís no way to lose any match.

Yeah, but it's the way these games finish.

You'd think, from Armagh's point of view, that the referee just decided on penalties himself at the end of extra-time.

Sour grapes - Armagh lost. Raw now but that's life. It happened in the Munster game earlier this year and no one, outside Clare and Limerick, gave a fiddlers. It happens in club games.  Get over it ffs.

The main issue is this;
In the cold light of day, Galway were the better team. They almost threw it away.  Galway were 6 or 7 pts up in the 70+ mins. Armagh got lucky with the goals. Papered over that they were badly outplayed.

That's the reality.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Applesisapples on June 27, 2022, 09:57:57 AM
The mask slipped again. Same old Armagh. They could start a fight over the drop of a hat. I wonder if it's that same old bitterness "ye forgot about us" begrudgery that a lot of republican nordies seem to harbour? Whatever the reason, I'm glad they have been well and truly exposed to the neutral.
Nice wee bit of trolling there. Galway man on TSG said it was started by Galway, but lets see the full video before jumping to conclusions.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Rudi on June 27, 2022, 09:58:06 AM
If a game finishes in a draw, extra time. If extra time finishes in a draw, replay. If the second game finishes in a draw after extra time, then penos to decide victor. Golden score or up to 3 points is not an option due to wind factor.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Gael80 on June 27, 2022, 10:00:05 AM
There is absolutely nothing wrong with penalties. Anyone who expects players and fans to go to croke park 3 weekends in a row in the middle of a cost of living crisis forgets all the whinging there used to be about how expensive it was for families beforehand.
I feel like some people just do not want anything that comes from soccer in the GAA. Its anglophobia and belongs in the past.

Penalties:
Losers hate them obviously.

Winners are happy but will say it's a terrible way to lose blah, blah, blah.

Neutrals think it's the best way to finish on the day.
Most neutrals seem to be saying itís no way to lose any match.

Yeah, but it's the way these games finish.

You'd think, from Armagh's point of view, that the referee just decided on penalties himself at the end of extra-time.

Sour grapes - Armagh lost. Raw now but that's life. It happened in the Munster game earlier this year and no one, outside Clare and Limerick, gave a fiddlers. It happens in club games.  Get over it ffs.

The main issue is this;
In the cold light of day, Galway were the better team. They almost threw it away.  Galway were 6 or 7 pts up in the 70+ mins. Armagh got lucky with the goals. Papered over that they were badly outplayed.

That's the reality.

The most vocal opponents to the pens post game was actually PŠdraic Joyce and Sean Cavanagh. This goes beyond 'sour grapes' which I don't think the discussion is about. I think most football people accept it's a problem that needs looking at. I'd much rather listen to legends of the game to be honest who understand the effort required to compete at inter county level.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Applesisapples on June 27, 2022, 10:01:39 AM
If the eye gouge wasnít intentional then what was he trying to do? I donít understand how it couldnít have been intentional tbh.
It looked pretty bad on TV, I can't see any mitigation, but heat of the moment and will surely be severely dealt with and rightly so but some of the stuff on twitter is way beyond the pale.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: imtommygunn on June 27, 2022, 10:02:33 AM
It was always going to happen.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 27, 2022, 10:05:13 AM
Everybody knew this rule for a while, was there any mass objection at the annual convention, more a attitude it never happen to us. Reality is Galway were better in most positions yesterday. Armagh had got well on top first 20/25mins but struggled badly in the 2nd Half, extra time was a even affair. Best game in years as some say, was littered with mistakes and 3 goalkeeper/defensive errors from Galway kept Armagh in the game. Only Campbell stood out for Armagh, as expected if you reduce O'Neill impact from play, Armagh do not have the threats elsewhere to heavily score.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: seafoid on June 27, 2022, 10:05:57 AM
PJ

https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2022/0626/1306973-joyce-choice-of-penalties-by-the-gaa-is-disgraceful/

"Overall I was impressed with the boys; they showed great character, and finally Galway have won a big match in Croke Park."
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Armamike on June 27, 2022, 10:07:16 AM
A lot of talking points.

The red card was harsh enough

ONeill could have saw red for a slap to the face - got a yellow instead so not sure how it was a yellow

Armagh #2 barged into Comer on the way off the field - that started the row - but bar the eye gouging nothing else really happened and the two boys who got the reds can feel rightly aggrieved

A lengthy ban for the eye gouging - the pitchforks are out in force online for that fella.

Galway keeper will not enjoy the game v Derry if he plays - will be put under immense pressure after yesterday

If people had such an issue with penalties then they should have been brought up long before now

While entertaining and exciting neither of these teams would be able to live with Derry

Not so sure about that. I'd expect Galway to give Derry plenty of craic.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Taylor on June 27, 2022, 10:07:33 AM
Not much chat of the time wasting in the second half from Galway when they went in front.

The amount of stoppages was scandalous and much of it play acting from their players.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: yellowcard on June 27, 2022, 10:07:43 AM
If we had won that match it would have been a great steal but it is still hard to take given the nature of the defeat. That said I don't understand all the hand wringing over penalty kicks. The rules are the same for both sides and we had 100+ minutes to win the match and didn't do so. As well as Rafferty played, I thought that Armagh should have brought on an actual shot stopper for the penalty kicks. That was a huge mistake by management. 

Kelly will get suspended for the gouging incident but he is a young lad who got carried away with the emotion and will have regrets this morning but some of the reaction is way ott. 

As a fellow Ulster man I would like to see Derry get to an AI final but nor would I be too disappointed to see Galway there either as they have great supporters and have a long tradition of producing great footballers none more so than Padraig Joyce who was very gracious in victory afterwards.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Dreadnought on June 27, 2022, 10:08:46 AM

We'll agree to disagree, in the world of finance the GAA will listen to the likes of Joyce and the public opinion on using penalties, with pressure being applied from sponsors and media. We seen the reality of the plan yesterday and I expect some head scratching in Croke Park this morning. There would have to be compromise and the Dublin Meath saga could never happen again but after such a high profile game yesterday the GAA will use it to make a slight change again imo.

The world of finance? The GAA are turning down lucrative replays here. For once, we can't throw the finance thing at them

😂.. no we can't to be fair but is it sustainable? My opinion like many is more about fairness on the players but when we think about it, the GAA are potentially throwing away over Ä1million, imagine a semi final goes the same way as yesterday. Media and sponsors would of loved another Armagh v Galway game in a packed stadium. I think decide on the day in the first match is crazy and when common sense takes over the authorities will all agree.

But we can't have it both ways, especially in these times. Are we expecting players and supporters of one of teh teams go out to Croke Park 3 weekends in a row now? We've known about this all year. A big game would always have these discussions, but we'll get used to it and move on
Happily. Cut ticket prices for a replay though.

Well of course you'd say that this morning. But it's not just price (and they used to cut replay prices alright). Just next weekend was meant to be off for players, and now we have some saying 3 weeks in a row is no issue, with the final 2 weeks after. Potentially 4 games in 5 weeks? Nah way...
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Dreadnought on June 27, 2022, 10:11:10 AM
Penalties is not a gaa skill and should never be used to determine the winner of such an important match - it's a lottery. At this stage of championship I'd prefer replays (with a much reduced admission price). If this isn't possible then ball thrown in again and next score wins (toss for who plays which way - the wind might be an advantage). This would make much more sense than penalties and wouldn't take too long to determine the winner.

Well I must have missed it when penalties have been used in GAA for ages now for fouls in the box. And not a lottery, both the taker and keeper can affect the outcome of the kick. Nowhere near a lottery at all. Galway supposedly practiced them, at the end of challenge matches. They trained for it, and won it.

How does next score win work in a gale force win? That now is far more of a lottery than penalties... You can't call it that, and then give that suggestion.

It's a lottery as it's not a skill of the game. I'd much prefer the game won using next score. The wind could be a factor (but won't be a lot of times for big games in the summer) but that's part of every match (sometimes it only picks up for a half giving a team advantage etc).

How so? It is a skill of the game. If we're at a point where 5 inter County players selected can't take a penalty then we're in a bad place. Most teams have a fair few players who take placed balls, even at club level. Getting 5 to take them is not a huge deal for players at this level. It's far less a lottery than your other suggestion
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Applesisapples on June 27, 2022, 10:11:47 AM
I thought the red card was wrong and only a yellow originally but the replays showed different. Armagh should lost Morgan as well.
The red was probably correct but a yellow would also have been ok, just timed it wrong and it was a clash of heads that caused the damage, but as an Armagh man I can't complain. On Morgan though after he was deservedly yellow carded he was targeted by Galway for the second yellow and I think that's what saved him. Its an aspect of the game that I don't like trying to get players sent off.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: AustinPowers on June 27, 2022, 10:12:43 AM
There is absolutely nothing wrong with penalties. Anyone who expects players and fans to go to croke park 3 weekends in a row in the middle of a cost of living crisis forgets all the whinging there used to be about how expensive it was for families beforehand.
I feel like some people just do not want anything that comes from soccer in the GAA. Its anglophobia and belongs in the past.

Penalties:
Losers hate them obviously.

Winners are happy but will say it's a terrible way to lose blah, blah, blah.

Neutrals think it's the best way to finish on the day.
Most neutrals seem to be saying itís no way to lose any match.

Yeah, but it's the way these games finish.

You'd think, from Armagh's point of view, that the referee just decided on penalties himself at the end of extra-time.

Sour grapes - Armagh lost. Raw now but that's life. It happened in the Munster game earlier this year and no one, outside Clare and Limerick, gave a fiddlers. It happens in club games.  Get over it ffs.

The main issue is this;
In the cold light of day, Galway were the better team. They almost threw it away.  Galway were 6 or 7 pts up in the 70+ mins. Armagh got lucky with the goals. Papered over that they were badly outplayed.


That's the reality.

So if Galway were  the better team, why take penalties at all then? Why not just award them the  semi final place based on that?

Regardless of who was better on the day, the number of points on the scoreboard is what matters.  The better team doesnít always win.

Iím sure most  Armagh fans would admit Galway were better but what does that matter ?  None of them would care about how good or bad their teams performance was yesterday  as long as they were in the AI semi final
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Gael80 on June 27, 2022, 10:12:49 AM
Everybody knew this rule for a while, was there any mass objection at the annual convention, more a attitude it never happen to us. Reality is Galway were better in most positions yesterday. Armagh had got well on top first 20/25mins but struggled badly in the 2nd Half, extra time was a even affair. Best game in years as some say, was littered with mistakes and 3 goalkeeper/defensive errors from Galway kept Armagh in the game. Only Campbell stood out for Armagh, as expected if you reduce O'Neill impact from play, Armagh do not have the threats elsewhere to heavily score.

Galway probably did shade it but they weren't way out in front and ultimately didn't beat Armagh in open play. I actually thought Armagh shaded extra time. Armagh will get over it and take great heart from not playing as well as they can but not losing the match over 90 minutes. I do expect Galway to reach the final which should give Armagh even more hope how close they are.

As for O'Neill - what a free, might win him an All Star and Rafferty might not be far from one either.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 27, 2022, 10:14:06 AM
Morgan got nothing at the time for hitting Walsh on the blindside.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Armamike on June 27, 2022, 10:15:20 AM
Not much chat of the time wasting in the second half from Galway when they went in front.

The amount of stoppages was scandalous and much of it play acting from their players.

The timewasting from Galway came back to bite at the end of normal time. That extra 8 minutes gave Armagh and the supporters a massive lift.  Galway probably gambled the ref would just give the standard 3 or 4.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Armagh18 on June 27, 2022, 10:15:27 AM
And what about the nxt time their another Armagh melee, will the subs ever learn to stay out of it, if the managers attitude is, someone pushes you, push them back. He still on the playground in primary school or sthing?
Nothing wrong with that attitude and Iíd say youí not find too many successful footballers or people in general life whoíd disagree with McGeeney.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Armagh18 on June 27, 2022, 10:16:29 AM
Morgan got nothing at the time for hitting Walsh on the blindside.
Didnít see that. Walsh could have had a black when he took Morgan out off the ball after Morgan was on a yellow.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Applesisapples on June 27, 2022, 10:17:16 AM
The only suspension out of it all should be the Armagh eye gouger - the rest was handbags - bit of pushing
Understandably one of the Galway lads threw a punch at the gouger so might be in bother if the video is looked at closely. The GAA need to look at how they manage games, yesterday they could have been in dressing rooms at opposite sides of the pitch which would have avoided this type of thing.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: general_lee on June 27, 2022, 10:23:54 AM
And what about the nxt time their another Armagh melee, will the subs ever learn to stay out of it, if the managers attitude is, someone pushes you, push them back. He still on the playground in primary school or sthing?
Ive seen enough melees in Derry club football, is it different when you boys do it? Comer started it, Armagh fell for it. If/when Kelly gets his ban there wonít be too many in Armagh defending him. 
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: shawshank on June 27, 2022, 10:24:21 AM
Everybody knew this rule for a while, was there any mass objection at the annual convention, more a attitude it never happen to us. Reality is Galway were better in most positions yesterday. Armagh had got well on top first 20/25mins but struggled badly in the 2nd Half, extra time was a even affair. Best game in years as some say, was littered with mistakes and 3 goalkeeper/defensive errors from Galway kept Armagh in the game. Only Campbell stood out for Armagh, as expected if you reduce O'Neill impact from play, Armagh do not have the threats elsewhere to heavily score.

Galway probably did shade it but they weren't way out in front and ultimately didn't beat Armagh in open play. I actually thought Armagh shaded extra time. Armagh will get over it and take great heart from not playing as well as they can but not losing the match over 90 minutes. I do expect Galway to reach the final which should give Armagh even more hope how close they are.

As for O'Neill - what a free, might win him an All Star and Rafferty might not be far from one either.

A team that won only two qualifiers won't get any All Stars. Galway won't win the All Ireland as their defense isn't good enough. A game they were in control of with a 5 minutes to go and they conceded junior b golas to give Armagh a draw. Derry will beat Galway. Credit to both teams for a very enjoyable game, a mix of everything in it. Outside of Kellys pathetic and trampish behaviour there was only abit of pushing shoving and wrestling. FFs it added to the occassion.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: marty34 on June 27, 2022, 10:24:47 AM
There is absolutely nothing wrong with penalties. Anyone who expects players and fans to go to croke park 3 weekends in a row in the middle of a cost of living crisis forgets all the whinging there used to be about how expensive it was for families beforehand.
I feel like some people just do not want anything that comes from soccer in the GAA. Its anglophobia and belongs in the past.

Penalties:
Losers hate them obviously.

Winners are happy but will say it's a terrible way to lose blah, blah, blah.

Neutrals think it's the best way to finish on the day.
Most neutrals seem to be saying itís no way to lose any match.

Yeah, but it's the way these games finish.

You'd think, from Armagh's point of view, that the referee just decided on penalties himself at the end of extra-time.

Sour grapes - Armagh lost. Raw now but that's life. It happened in the Munster game earlier this year and no one, outside Clare and Limerick, gave a fiddlers. It happens in club games.  Get over it ffs.

The main issue is this;
In the cold light of day, Galway were the better team. They almost threw it away.  Galway were 6 or 7 pts up in the 70+ mins. Armagh got lucky with the goals. Papered over that they were badly outplayed.

That's the reality.

The most vocal opponents to the pens post game was actually PŠdraic Joyce and Sean Cavanagh. This goes beyond 'sour grapes' which I don't think the discussion is about. I think most football people accept it's a problem that needs looking at. I'd much rather listen to legends of the game to be honest who understand the effort required to compete at inter county level.

It is sour grapes.

As time passes, this will all move on. Of course Joyce would say that - every winning manager says that. It's the norm.

I don't like penalties either but it's the way it is.

I never hear a team in the run up to a match complaining about penalties being on the cards.

Galway probably practisied penalty kicks during the week. Did Armagh I wonder?

Armagh were well beat, got lucky with a few high balls but Galway were the better team.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Armagh18 on June 27, 2022, 10:28:10 AM
The only suspension out of it all should be the Armagh eye gouger - the rest was handbags - bit of pushing
Understandably one of the Galway lads threw a punch at the gouger so might be in bother if the video is looked at closely. The GAA need to look at how they manage games, yesterday they could have been in dressing rooms at opposite sides of the pitch which would have avoided this type of thing.
I really hope theres no further action taken apart from TK who should get a ban. What did all those Dublin and Kerry players get for eye gouging those times? Something similar to that. Hope the lad who threw a punch at him doesnít get cited and that Kelly (Galway) gets back for the semi.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Applesisapples on June 27, 2022, 10:28:23 AM
On the actual game, Galway shaded it one the 70 minutes, fairly even in ET imo. Penalties not the way to end it again imo. Armagh had chances to win it, two goal chances spurned prior to Galway revival in the first half and Rowland at the end took on a difficult shot with space in front of him. That said had it gone over he'd a hero.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: marty34 on June 27, 2022, 10:28:28 AM
If we had won that match it would have been a great steal but it is still hard to take given the nature of the defeat. That said I don't understand all the hand wringing over penalty kicks. The rules are the same for both sides and we had 100+ minutes to win the match and didn't do so. As well as Rafferty played, I thought that Armagh should have brought on an actual shot stopper for the penalty kicks. That was a huge mistake by management. 

Kelly will get suspended for the gouging incident but he is a young lad who got carried away with the emotion and will have regrets this morning but some of the reaction is way ott. 

As a fellow Ulster man I would like to see Derry get to an AI final but nor would I be too disappointed to see Galway there either as they have great supporters and have a long tradition of producing great footballers none more so than Padraig Joyce who was very gracious in victory afterwards.

Good post Yellowcard.

Funnily enough, lads on tv were talking about changing Rafferty for a 'normal keeper' in the last minute of extra-time.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Armamike on June 27, 2022, 10:33:08 AM
Highly disappointing to see us involved in another fracas.  It has to stop.  I can't fathom that our management would send the players out to do that - but it's something that has to be forcibly drilled in from here on.  No more of it.  If the GAA don't have anything in place to stop 2 teams who are pumped up after a hard fought finish running down the tunnel together then we have to get our own house in order and instruct our players to wait on the pitch.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Armamike on June 27, 2022, 10:35:40 AM
If we had won that match it would have been a great steal but it is still hard to take given the nature of the defeat. That said I don't understand all the hand wringing over penalty kicks. The rules are the same for both sides and we had 100+ minutes to win the match and didn't do so. As well as Rafferty played, I thought that Armagh should have brought on an actual shot stopper for the penalty kicks. That was a huge mistake by management. 

Kelly will get suspended for the gouging incident but he is a young lad who got carried away with the emotion and will have regrets this morning but some of the reaction is way ott. 

As a fellow Ulster man I would like to see Derry get to an AI final but nor would I be too disappointed to see Galway there either as they have great supporters and have a long tradition of producing great footballers none more so than Padraig Joyce who was very gracious in victory afterwards.

Good post Yellowcard.

Funnily enough, lads on tv were talking about changing Rafferty for a 'normal keeper' in the last minute of extra-time.

It was the first thought that entered my head. Shit, can Ethan dive?  He couldn't have done much about the penalties though. They were well taken.  The Galway keeper didn't have to make a save on the 2 we missed.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: WT4E on June 27, 2022, 10:41:32 AM
Highly disappointing to see us involved in another fracas.  It has to stop.  I can't fathom that our management would send the players out to do that - but it's something that has to be forcibly drilled in from here on.  No more of it.  If the GAA don't have anything in place to stop 2 teams who are pumped up after a hard fought finish running down the tunnel together then we have to get our own house in order and instruct our players to wait on the pitch.

It wasn't the GAA fault
Its hard to believe that its not drilled into Armagh to start rows considering the amount of incidents Armagh are involved in
Its rumoured they coach MMA
Ironically one of the only things barred in MMA is eye gouging!
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Gael80 on June 27, 2022, 10:46:28 AM
There is absolutely nothing wrong with penalties. Anyone who expects players and fans to go to croke park 3 weekends in a row in the middle of a cost of living crisis forgets all the whinging there used to be about how expensive it was for families beforehand.
I feel like some people just do not want anything that comes from soccer in the GAA. Its anglophobia and belongs in the past.

Penalties:
Losers hate them obviously.

Winners are happy but will say it's a terrible way to lose blah, blah, blah.

Neutrals think it's the best way to finish on the day.
Most neutrals seem to be saying itís no way to lose any match.

Yeah, but it's the way these games finish.

You'd think, from Armagh's point of view, that the referee just decided on penalties himself at the end of extra-time.

Sour grapes - Armagh lost. Raw now but that's life. It happened in the Munster game earlier this year and no one, outside Clare and Limerick, gave a fiddlers. It happens in club games.  Get over it ffs.

The main issue is this;
In the cold light of day, Galway were the better team. They almost threw it away.  Galway were 6 or 7 pts up in the 70+ mins. Armagh got lucky with the goals. Papered over that they were badly outplayed.

That's the reality.

The most vocal opponents to the pens post game was actually PŠdraic Joyce and Sean Cavanagh. This goes beyond 'sour grapes' which I don't think the discussion is about. I think most football people accept it's a problem that needs looking at. I'd much rather listen to legends of the game to be honest who understand the effort required to compete at inter county level.

It is sour grapes.

As time passes, this will all move on. Of course Joyce would say that - every winning manager says that. It's the norm.

I don't like penalties either but it's the way it is.

I never hear a team in the run up to a match complaining about penalties being on the cards.

Galway probably practisied penalty kicks during the week. Did Armagh I wonder?

Armagh were well beat, got lucky with a few high balls but Galway were the better team.

Good luck to Galway, they're a serious team and set up who'll get very close to the All Ireland title which will show how good this Armagh team and set up are.

I've huge respect for Joyce for what he has achieved in the game and how he goes about setting his teams up, I'd tend to listen to what he says as he is a football man first and foremost and cares about the game.

As for a team being 'well beat' after drawing 90 minutes of football....are you ok?

 I think Armagh's strength was the high ball, they might regret not using it enough but hard to criticise either team after such an epic that neither team lost in 90 minutes of normal play.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Armagh18 on June 27, 2022, 10:48:02 AM
If we had won that match it would have been a great steal but it is still hard to take given the nature of the defeat. That said I don't understand all the hand wringing over penalty kicks. The rules are the same for both sides and we had 100+ minutes to win the match and didn't do so. As well as Rafferty played, I thought that Armagh should have brought on an actual shot stopper for the penalty kicks. That was a huge mistake by management. 

Kelly will get suspended for the gouging incident but he is a young lad who got carried away with the emotion and will have regrets this morning but some of the reaction is way ott. 

As a fellow Ulster man I would like to see Derry get to an AI final but nor would I be too disappointed to see Galway there either as they have great supporters and have a long tradition of producing great footballers none more so than Padraig Joyce who was very gracious in victory afterwards.

Good post Yellowcard.

Funnily enough, lads on tv were talking about changing Rafferty for a 'normal keeper' in the last minute of extra-time.
Rafferty very close to a couple of the penalties plus heís a bigger presence in the net than Blaine. Probably one of those where youíre damned if you do, damned if you donít.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Armagh18 on June 27, 2022, 10:49:09 AM
Highly disappointing to see us involved in another fracas.  It has to stop.  I can't fathom that our management would send the players out to do that - but it's something that has to be forcibly drilled in from here on.  No more of it.  If the GAA don't have anything in place to stop 2 teams who are pumped up after a hard fought finish running down the tunnel together then we have to get our own house in order and instruct our players to wait on the pitch.

It wasn't the GAA fault
Its hard to believe that its not drilled into Armagh to start rows considering the amount of incidents Armagh are involved in
Its rumoured they coach MMA
Ironically one of the only things barred in MMA is eye gouging!
Number one Comer started that row which was absolute handbags bar the eye gouge.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Taylor on June 27, 2022, 10:50:20 AM
Highly disappointing to see us involved in another fracas.  It has to stop.  I can't fathom that our management would send the players out to do that - but it's something that has to be forcibly drilled in from here on.  No more of it.  If the GAA don't have anything in place to stop 2 teams who are pumped up after a hard fought finish running down the tunnel together then we have to get our own house in order and instruct our players to wait on the pitch.

It wasn't the GAA fault
Its hard to believe that its not drilled into Armagh to start rows considering the amount of incidents Armagh are involved in
Its rumoured they coach MMA
Ironically one of the only things barred in MMA is eye gouging!

As much as I dislike them being an opposing county the above is a complete load of shite.

How do you drill it into a team to start rows?
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: yellowcard on June 27, 2022, 10:52:14 AM
If we had won that match it would have been a great steal but it is still hard to take given the nature of the defeat. That said I don't understand all the hand wringing over penalty kicks. The rules are the same for both sides and we had 100+ minutes to win the match and didn't do so. As well as Rafferty played, I thought that Armagh should have brought on an actual shot stopper for the penalty kicks. That was a huge mistake by management. 

Kelly will get suspended for the gouging incident but he is a young lad who got carried away with the emotion and will have regrets this morning but some of the reaction is way ott. 

As a fellow Ulster man I would like to see Derry get to an AI final but nor would I be too disappointed to see Galway there either as they have great supporters and have a long tradition of producing great footballers none more so than Padraig Joyce who was very gracious in victory afterwards.

Good post Yellowcard.

Funnily enough, lads on tv were talking about changing Rafferty for a 'normal keeper' in the last minute of extra-time.
Rafferty very close to a couple of the penalties plus heís a bigger presence in the net than Blaine. Probably one of those where youíre damned if you do, damned if you donít.

But he's not an actual goalkeeper. He is there for his size and kicking ability. He is too big to get down quickly for spot kicks. The safe decision was to stick with Rafferty but he has only been a goalkeeper for 6 months. I think Hughes who has trained as an actual goalkeeper for years would have been a much better choice. No guarantee he would have saved any but he would have given us a better chance.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: the goal was on on June 27, 2022, 10:52:57 AM
Lot of hype about Armagh heading into weekend, tyroneís Niall Morgan suggesting they could win all Ireland!! Once again , they fell when expectation rose. To there credit they never give up but Galway really should have seen that game out comfortably.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Armagh18 on June 27, 2022, 10:56:13 AM
Lot of hype about Armagh heading into weekend, tyroneís Niall Morgan suggesting they could win all Ireland!! Once again , they fell when expectation rose. To there credit they never give up but Galway really should have seen that game out comfortably.
To be honest we definitely could have- just like 6 of the 8 teams in the quarters. On balance Galway probably deserved to win it overall. Best of luck to them in the semi final. Weíre back at the top table and big days out. More to come from this team.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Keyser soze on June 27, 2022, 10:58:05 AM

We'll agree to disagree, in the world of finance the GAA will listen to the likes of Joyce and the public opinion on using penalties, with pressure being applied from sponsors and media. We seen the reality of the plan yesterday and I expect some head scratching in Croke Park this morning. There would have to be compromise and the Dublin Meath saga could never happen again but after such a high profile game yesterday the GAA will use it to make a slight change again imo.

The world of finance? The GAA are turning down lucrative replays here. For once, we can't throw the finance thing at them

😂.. no we can't to be fair but is it sustainable? My opinion like many is more about fairness on the players but when we think about it, the GAA are potentially throwing away over Ä1million, imagine a semi final goes the same way as yesterday. Media and sponsors would of loved another Armagh v Galway game in a packed stadium. I think decide on the day in the first match is crazy and when common sense takes over the authorities will all agree.

But we can't have it both ways, especially in these times. Are we expecting players and supporters of one of teh teams go out to Croke Park 3 weekends in a row now? We've known about this all year. A big game would always have these discussions, but we'll get used to it and move on
Happily. Cut ticket prices for a replay though.

Well of course you'd say that this morning. But it's not just price (and they used to cut replay prices alright). Just next weekend was meant to be off for players, and now we have some saying 3 weeks in a row is no issue, with the final 2 weeks after. Potentially 4 games in 5 weeks? Nah way...

Ah ffs catch yourself on, players would play a game every night of the week to get to an AI semi-final.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Taylor on June 27, 2022, 10:58:17 AM
If we had won that match it would have been a great steal but it is still hard to take given the nature of the defeat. That said I don't understand all the hand wringing over penalty kicks. The rules are the same for both sides and we had 100+ minutes to win the match and didn't do so. As well as Rafferty played, I thought that Armagh should have brought on an actual shot stopper for the penalty kicks. That was a huge mistake by management. 

Kelly will get suspended for the gouging incident but he is a young lad who got carried away with the emotion and will have regrets this morning but some of the reaction is way ott. 

As a fellow Ulster man I would like to see Derry get to an AI final but nor would I be too disappointed to see Galway there either as they have great supporters and have a long tradition of producing great footballers none more so than Padraig Joyce who was very gracious in victory afterwards.

Good post Yellowcard.

Funnily enough, lads on tv were talking about changing Rafferty for a 'normal keeper' in the last minute of extra-time.
Rafferty very close to a couple of the penalties plus heís a bigger presence in the net than Blaine. Probably one of those where youíre damned if you do, damned if you donít.

But he's not an actual goalkeeper. He is there for his size and kicking ability. He is too big to get down quickly for spot kicks. The safe decision was to stick with Rafferty but he has only been a goalkeeper for 6 months. I think Hughes who has trained as an actual goalkeeper for years would have been a much better choice. No guarantee he would have saved any but he would have given us a better chance.

As a player you would know that if you hit the target you have a great chance of scoring if the person in nets isnt a conventional goalkeeper.
This increases your chances of scoring rather than having to place it in a particular spot which the second Armagh player that missed had to do
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Rudi on June 27, 2022, 11:00:29 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ra_LEiPRBh8

#27 for Armagh, acted the maggot big time.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: fearsiuil on June 27, 2022, 11:00:47 AM
The Galway sub/ panel member that swung after the gouging incident at Tiernan Kelly should see bit of a suspension also. Would be a handy way for all concerned to see these boys suspended, the Nugent & SeŠn Kelly reds rescinded and moving on allowing Galway a full hand v Derry. Penalising the extended panel and non playing individuals involved is fair in my opinion.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: WT4E on June 27, 2022, 11:06:02 AM
The Galway sub/ panel member that swung after the gouging incident at Tiernan Kelly should see bit of a suspension also. Would be a handy way for all concerned to see these boys suspended, the Nugent & SeŠn Kelly reds rescinded and moving on allowing Galway a full hand v Derry. Penalising the extended panel and non playing individuals involved is fair in my opinion.

The sub who swung for Kelly deserves a medal!
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: marty34 on June 27, 2022, 11:06:39 AM
There is absolutely nothing wrong with penalties. Anyone who expects players and fans to go to croke park 3 weekends in a row in the middle of a cost of living crisis forgets all the whinging there used to be about how expensive it was for families beforehand.
I feel like some people just do not want anything that comes from soccer in the GAA. Its anglophobia and belongs in the past.

Penalties:
Losers hate them obviously.

Winners are happy but will say it's a terrible way to lose blah, blah, blah.

Neutrals think it's the best way to finish on the day.
Most neutrals seem to be saying itís no way to lose any match.

Yeah, but it's the way these games finish.

You'd think, from Armagh's point of view, that the referee just decided on penalties himself at the end of extra-time.

Sour grapes - Armagh lost. Raw now but that's life. It happened in the Munster game earlier this year and no one, outside Clare and Limerick, gave a fiddlers. It happens in club games.  Get over it ffs.

The main issue is this;
In the cold light of day, Galway were the better team. They almost threw it away.  Galway were 6 or 7 pts up in the 70+ mins. Armagh got lucky with the goals. Papered over that they were badly outplayed.

That's the reality.

The most vocal opponents to the pens post game was actually PŠdraic Joyce and Sean Cavanagh. This goes beyond 'sour grapes' which I don't think the discussion is about. I think most football people accept it's a problem that needs looking at. I'd much rather listen to legends of the game to be honest who understand the effort required to compete at inter county level.

It is sour grapes.

As time passes, this will all move on. Of course Joyce would say that - every winning manager says that. It's the norm.

I don't like penalties either but it's the way it is.

I never hear a team in the run up to a match complaining about penalties being on the cards.

Galway probably practisied penalty kicks during the week. Did Armagh I wonder?

Armagh were well beat, got lucky with a few high balls but Galway were the better team.

Good luck to Galway, they're a serious team and set up who'll get very close to the All Ireland title which will show how good this Armagh team and set up are.

I've huge respect for Joyce for what he has achieved in the game and how he goes about setting his teams up, I'd tend to listen to what he says as he is a football man first and foremost and cares about the game.

As for a team being 'well beat' after drawing 90 minutes of football....are you ok?

 I think Armagh's strength was the high ball, they might regret not using it enough but hard to criticise either team after such an epic that neither team lost in 90 minutes of normal play.

Take the orange glasses off.

Watch the game again. Armagh got lucky with the goals - it's a 1 in a 100 chance that, especially in gaelic football, that a team scores a couple of goals at the death. They were lucky. Bad defending by Galway or whatever but a finish like that it seldom happens.

Have a look on her near the end of the game. Armagh people saying Mc Geeney must go, same old Armagh etc. etc.

Galway were, by far the better team in the 2nd half. They controlled it and nearly threw it away.

Btw, I think Mc Geeney and his management has done an excellent job. A great Div. 1 campaign and a decent championship run. Lads will be willing to get at it again. Get a good S&C plan going again and they'll be ready for action next January.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: yellowcard on June 27, 2022, 11:06:57 AM
If we had won that match it would have been a great steal but it is still hard to take given the nature of the defeat. That said I don't understand all the hand wringing over penalty kicks. The rules are the same for both sides and we had 100+ minutes to win the match and didn't do so. As well as Rafferty played, I thought that Armagh should have brought on an actual shot stopper for the penalty kicks. That was a huge mistake by management. 

Kelly will get suspended for the gouging incident but he is a young lad who got carried away with the emotion and will have regrets this morning but some of the reaction is way ott. 

As a fellow Ulster man I would like to see Derry get to an AI final but nor would I be too disappointed to see Galway there either as they have great supporters and have a long tradition of producing great footballers none more so than Padraig Joyce who was very gracious in victory afterwards.

Good post Yellowcard.

Funnily enough, lads on tv were talking about changing Rafferty for a 'normal keeper' in the last minute of extra-time.
Rafferty very close to a couple of the penalties plus heís a bigger presence in the net than Blaine. Probably one of those where youíre damned if you do, damned if you donít.

But he's not an actual goalkeeper. He is there for his size and kicking ability. He is too big to get down quickly for spot kicks. The safe decision was to stick with Rafferty but he has only been a goalkeeper for 6 months. I think Hughes who has trained as an actual goalkeeper for years would have been a much better choice. No guarantee he would have saved any but he would have given us a better chance.

As a player you would know that if you hit the target you have a great chance of scoring if the person in nets isnt a conventional goalkeeper.
This increases your chances of scoring rather than having to place it in a particular spot which the second Armagh player that missed had to do

Exactly right. If you're a Galway player you just have to focus purely on hitting the target and it puts less pressure on the kicker to force it into a corner. 
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: WT4E on June 27, 2022, 11:09:34 AM
Highly disappointing to see us involved in another fracas.  It has to stop.  I can't fathom that our management would send the players out to do that - but it's something that has to be forcibly drilled in from here on.  No more of it.  If the GAA don't have anything in place to stop 2 teams who are pumped up after a hard fought finish running down the tunnel together then we have to get our own house in order and instruct our players to wait on the pitch.

It wasn't the GAA fault
Its hard to believe that its not drilled into Armagh to start rows considering the amount of incidents Armagh are involved in
Its rumoured they coach MMA
Ironically one of the only things barred in MMA is eye gouging!

As much as I dislike them being an opposing county the above is a complete load of shite.

How do you drill it into a team to start rows?

Its a psychological thing - the way they are coached. For example do you see other counties get into this type scenario this often. Take the Dubs or Kerry they have players who are targeted continually but they must drum it into there team not to get involved because they rarely have scenarios even close to this.

Armagh had a good season but they have a reputation which has now defined them. We should be talking about how Rian O'Neill is an awesome footballer but all we are talking about is Armaghs usual dirty tricks!
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: 6th sam on June 27, 2022, 11:13:00 AM
Morgan got nothing at the time for hitting Walsh on the blindside.
Didnít see that. Walsh could have had a black when he took Morgan out off the ball after Morgan was on a yellow.

The GAA seriously need to look At Melees. They are often ďhandbagsĒ but seriously bad PR. The current sanctions arenít working and actually penalise normal human behaviour. If u see a friend in a headlock , youíre going to want to protect him. It 10 of your opponents rush into melee youíre not going to wait on the sidelines to see what happens.
Kelly and Nugent appeared to be peacemakers yet theyíre red carded. Previous sanctions have been rescinded as presumably legally unsound.
A few things to consider :
1.Subs outside the wire . Only minimal specific personnel inside the wire.
2.Those who pull people out are not treated the same as those who aggressively interject.
3.Heavy financial sanctions to teams

Finish on the day must stay. Replays mess up the calendar, are a further strain in amateur players, and financial strain on the punters . Perhaps 10 seconds to score from the edge of the D , might be a better option than penalties.

Mcgeeney is right about trial by media/social media. RTEís view has dictated rule changes in the past , and they have their own agenda. Eg They want replays as itís clearly good for RTE viewing figures and itís another payday for the pundits . SeŠn cavanaghís crocodile tears about his neighbours and Tyroneís biggest rivals losing out on penalties was laughable . The irony of the likes of Whelan and Cavanagh wringing their hands in disgust at foul play is even more hilarious .


Great game. Deal with melees going forward but keep the ďwin on the dayĒ.
Great championship so far and it will be finished in July so that 95% of players can enjoy club action for the rest of the year . Well done GAA
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Rossfan on June 27, 2022, 11:15:32 AM
Will 5% not enjoy Club action?
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: trailer on June 27, 2022, 11:16:29 AM
So there you are now. Some thoughts.

It was fantastic entertainment.
Rian O'Neill is a serious player. What a huge performance. Great score at the end but he was everywhere. But he is all Armagh have. A lot of the rest of them are limited players.
The sending off was a funny one. Initally I thought it very harsh, felt a yellow was enough but looking at it again last night I can see why Coldrick gave it.
Galway are a good team. A lot of Armagh ppl felt that it was only a matter of turning up. Had heard a lot of stories of Armagh fans getting carried away. Galway didn't get caught in the hype and after they settled they went about their business with great efficiency. They did shite the togs. They need to learn how to lose games out.

The row was the row and yer man made a bollocks of himself. Everyone will get off no matter what suspensions the GAA throw at them. Coldrick made a balls of it. Contributing to a melee is the referees get out of jail card. But this is a problem of the GAAs making. They have let Armagh off all year and they will continue to behave this way. Dublin and Kerry also got let off similarly.

If the GAA are serious about dealing with the issue they need to address the mess that is the rulebook. A referees report must be sacrosanct. No reds overturned ever. No matter what. If the ref gets it wrong, he gets it wrong. Tough. Use only video to retrospectively ban for serious foul play missed by the referee. If he deals with it, then that's the matter closed. No appeals on technicalities because the report wasn't submitted in 4 different versions of Irish or this nonsense.

Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Armamike on June 27, 2022, 11:16:44 AM
Highly disappointing to see us involved in another fracas.  It has to stop.  I can't fathom that our management would send the players out to do that - but it's something that has to be forcibly drilled in from here on.  No more of it.  If the GAA don't have anything in place to stop 2 teams who are pumped up after a hard fought finish running down the tunnel together then we have to get our own house in order and instruct our players to wait on the pitch.

It wasn't the GAA fault
Its hard to believe that its not drilled into Armagh to start rows considering the amount of incidents Armagh are involved in
Its rumoured they coach MMA
Ironically one of the only things barred in MMA is eye gouging!

I didn't say it was the fault of the GAA but (and here come the brickbats from the self righteous ones among us here)  it's fairly easy for the authorities to step in and cut any of this shite out in future by simply managing how the teams run off at half time.  They manage everything else down to the nth degree so why not this?  The guys on the Sunday game panels yesterday were saying the same.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: yellowcard on June 27, 2022, 11:16:52 AM
Morgan got nothing at the time for hitting Walsh on the blindside.
Didnít see that. Walsh could have had a black when he took Morgan out off the ball after Morgan was on a yellow.

The GAA seriously need to look At Melees. They are often ďhandbagsĒ but seriously bad PR. The current sanctions arenít working and actually penalise normal human behaviour. If u see a friend in a headlock , youíre going to want to protect him. It 10 of your opponents rush into melee youíre not going to wait on the sidelines to see what happens.
Kelly and Nugent appeared to be peacemakers yet theyíre red carded. Previous sanctions have been rescinded as presumably legally unsound.
A few things to consider :
1.Subs outside the wire . Only minimal specific personnel inside the wire.
2.Those who pull people out are not treated the same as those who aggressively interject.
3.Heavy financial sanctions to teams

Finish on the day must stay. Replays mess up the calendar, are a further strain in amateur players, and financial strain on the punters . Perhaps 10 seconds to score from the edge of the D , might be a better option than penalties.

Mcgeeney is right about trial by media/social media. RTEís view has dictated rule changes in the past , and they have their own agenda. Eg They want replays as itís clearly good for RTE viewing figures and itís another payday for the pundits . SeŠn cavanaghís crocodile tears about his neighbours and Tyroneís biggest rivals losing out on penalties was laughable . The irony of the likes of Whelan and Cavanagh wringing their hands in disgust at foul play is even more hilarious .


Great game. Deal with melees going forward but keep the ďwin on the dayĒ.
Great championship so far and it will be finished in July so that 95% of players can enjoy club action for the rest of the year . Well done GAA

I agree with a lot of what you say except that it hasn't been a great championship. Armagh have probably saved it, there were very few decent other matches that I can think of. 
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Armagh18 on June 27, 2022, 11:17:54 AM
Highly disappointing to see us involved in another fracas.  It has to stop.  I can't fathom that our management would send the players out to do that - but it's something that has to be forcibly drilled in from here on.  No more of it.  If the GAA don't have anything in place to stop 2 teams who are pumped up after a hard fought finish running down the tunnel together then we have to get our own house in order and instruct our players to wait on the pitch.

It wasn't the GAA fault
Its hard to believe that its not drilled into Armagh to start rows considering the amount of incidents Armagh are involved in
Its rumoured they coach MMA
Ironically one of the only things barred in MMA is eye gouging!

As much as I dislike them being an opposing county the above is a complete load of shite.

How do you drill it into a team to start rows?

Its a psychological thing - the way they are coached. For example do you see other counties get into this type scenario this often. Take the Dubs or Kerry they have players who are targeted continually but they must drum it into there team not to get involved because they rarely have scenarios even close to this.

Armagh had a good season but they have a reputation which has now defined them. We should be talking about how Rian O'Neill is an awesome footballer but all we are talking about is Armaghs usual dirty tricks!
Takes 2 to tango. Dublin and Kerry were at something very similar a few months ago so you must have a short memory.

Best player in Ireland imo. Clifford and Con maybe better forwards but Rian could play anywhere on the pitch and be top class at it.

Also there arenít too many players in the country whoíd have had the balls to take that shot on and nail it like that after 70 minutes.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: yellowcard on June 27, 2022, 11:21:22 AM
So there you are now. Some thoughts.

It was fantastic entertainment.
Rian O'Neill is a serious player. What a huge performance. Great score at the end but he was everywhere. But he is all Armagh have. A lot of the rest of them are limited players.
The sending off was a funny one. Initally I thought it very harsh, felt a yellow was enough but looking at it again last night I can see why Coldrick gave it.
Galway are a good team. A lot of Armagh ppl felt that it was only a matter of turning up. Had heard a lot of stories of Armagh fans getting carried away. Galway didn't get caught in the hype and after they settled they went about their business with great efficiency. They did shite the togs. They need to learn how to lose games out.

The row was the row and yer man made a bollocks of himself. Everyone will get off no matter what suspensions the GAA throw at them. Coldrick made a balls of it. Contributing to a melee is the referees get out of jail card. But this is a problem of the GAAs making. They have let Armagh off all year and they will continue to behave this way. Dublin and Kerry also got let off similarly.

If the GAA are serious about dealing with the issue they need to address the mess that is the rulebook. A referees report must be sacrosanct. No reds overturned ever. No matter what. If the ref gets it wrong, he gets it wrong. Tough. Use only video to retrospectively ban for serious foul play missed by the referee. If he deals with it, then that's the matter closed. No appeals on technicalities because the report wasn't submitted in 4 different versions of Irish or this nonsense.

Did you actually watch the match? Rian O'Neill is a great player but probably didn't have his best match yesterday and Armagh have plenty of other good players so that is ridiculous to say that he is the only player we have. As for shiteing the togs, catch a grip one team has to lose and it's not like we threw away a big lead the game ebbed and flowed and Galway won on spot kicks. Its fine margins when it gets to that stage.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Gael80 on June 27, 2022, 11:22:15 AM
There is absolutely nothing wrong with penalties. Anyone who expects players and fans to go to croke park 3 weekends in a row in the middle of a cost of living crisis forgets all the whinging there used to be about how expensive it was for families beforehand.
I feel like some people just do not want anything that comes from soccer in the GAA. Its anglophobia and belongs in the past.

Penalties:
Losers hate them obviously.

Winners are happy but will say it's a terrible way to lose blah, blah, blah.

Neutrals think it's the best way to finish on the day.
Most neutrals seem to be saying itís no way to lose any match.

Yeah, but it's the way these games finish.

You'd think, from Armagh's point of view, that the referee just decided on penalties himself at the end of extra-time.

Sour grapes - Armagh lost. Raw now but that's life. It happened in the Munster game earlier this year and no one, outside Clare and Limerick, gave a fiddlers. It happens in club games.  Get over it ffs.

The main issue is this;
In the cold light of day, Galway were the better team. They almost threw it away.  Galway were 6 or 7 pts up in the 70+ mins. Armagh got lucky with the goals. Papered over that they were badly outplayed.

That's the reality.

The most vocal opponents to the pens post game was actually PŠdraic Joyce and Sean Cavanagh. This goes beyond 'sour grapes' which I don't think the discussion is about. I think most football people accept it's a problem that needs looking at. I'd much rather listen to legends of the game to be honest who understand the effort required to compete at inter county level.

It is sour grapes.

As time passes, this will all move on. Of course Joyce would say that - every winning manager says that. It's the norm.

I don't like penalties either but it's the way it is.

I never hear a team in the run up to a match complaining about penalties being on the cards.

Galway probably practisied penalty kicks during the week. Did Armagh I wonder?

Armagh were well beat, got lucky with a few high balls but Galway were the better team.

Good luck to Galway, they're a serious team and set up who'll get very close to the All Ireland title which will show how good this Armagh team and set up are.

I've huge respect for Joyce for what he has achieved in the game and how he goes about setting his teams up, I'd tend to listen to what he says as he is a football man first and foremost and cares about the game.

As for a team being 'well beat' after drawing 90 minutes of football....are you ok?

 I think Armagh's strength was the high ball, they might regret not using it enough but hard to criticise either team after such an epic that neither team lost in 90 minutes of normal play.

Take the orange glasses off.

Watch the game again. Armagh got lucky with the goals - it's a 1 in a 100 chance that, especially in gaelic football, that a team scores a couple of goals at the death. They were lucky. Bad defending by Galway or whatever but a finish like that it seldom happens.

Have a look on her near the end of the game. Armagh people saying Mc Geeney must go, same old Armagh etc. etc.

Galway were, by far the better team in the 2nd half. They controlled it and nearly threw it away.

Btw, I think Mc Geeney and his management has done an excellent job. A great Div. 1 campaign and a decent championship run. Lads will be willing to get at it again. Get a good S&C plan going again and they'll be ready for action next January.

Armagh started very well and went four up, I thought they controlled the game at that stage but a few handling errors cost them. At that stage of the game a dodgy free was given to Galway with what looked like he went down easily but small margins. Galway from then became defensively very solid and attacked with patience.

Armagh always looked dangerous though and even at 6 down when you have the kicking ability of Rafferty and a forward line as good as Armagh's always have a chance. The long balls in caused chaos and resulted in three goals, you can be lucky once but not three times, they were all great goals.

Armagh were excellent in extra time and I think if they scored the point straight after the third goal, that was three in it with Croke Park rocking, I don't think Galway recover from that. Also for their extra time goal there was a kick out that went straight to a Galway lad with Armagh then all over the place.

Galway probably shaded it overall but Armagh were well in it with the usual small margins - great game of football between two very good teams. There'll be more in both over the next few years.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: JoG2 on June 27, 2022, 11:22:20 AM
Highly disappointing to see us involved in another fracas.  It has to stop.  I can't fathom that our management would send the players out to do that - but it's something that has to be forcibly drilled in from here on.  No more of it.  If the GAA don't have anything in place to stop 2 teams who are pumped up after a hard fought finish running down the tunnel together then we have to get our own house in order and instruct our players to wait on the pitch.

It wasn't the GAA fault
Its hard to believe that its not drilled into Armagh to start rows considering the amount of incidents Armagh are involved in
Its rumoured they coach MMA
Ironically one of the only things barred in MMA is eye gouging!

As much as I dislike them being an opposing county the above is a complete load of shite.

How do you drill it into a team to start rows?

Its a psychological thing - the way they are coached. For example do you see other counties get into this type scenario this often. Take the Dubs or Kerry they have players who are targeted continually but they must drum it into there team not to get involved because they rarely have scenarios even close to this.

Armagh had a good season but they have a reputation which has now defined them. We should be talking about how Rian O'Neill is an awesome footballer but all we are talking about is Armaghs usual dirty tricks!
Takes 2 to tango. Dublin and Kerry were at something very similar a few months ago so you must have a short memory. [/b]

Best player in Ireland imo. Clifford and Con maybe better forwards but Rian could play anywhere on the pitch and be top class at it.

Also there arenít too many players in the country whoíd have had the balls to take that shot on and nail it like that after 70 minutes.



Similar? Yes, that it happened on a football pitch. This keeps getting totted out by Armagh folk. The Dublin Kerry incident was the very definition of footballing handbags. Involved only the onfield players, wasn't a punch thrown, an eye gouged and was over in seconds.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Armagh18 on June 27, 2022, 11:22:37 AM
So there you are now. Some thoughts.

It was fantastic entertainment.
Rian O'Neill is a serious player. What a huge performance. Great score at the end but he was everywhere. But he is all Armagh have. A lot of the rest of them are limited players.
The sending off was a funny one. Initally I thought it very harsh, felt a yellow was enough but looking at it again last night I can see why Coldrick gave it.
Galway are a good team. A lot of Armagh ppl felt that it was only a matter of turning up. Had heard a lot of stories of Armagh fans getting carried away. Galway didn't get caught in the hype and after they settled they went about their business with great efficiency. They did shite the togs. They need to learn how to lose games out.

The row was the row and yer man made a bollocks of himself. Everyone will get off no matter what suspensions the GAA throw at them. Coldrick made a balls of it. Contributing to a melee is the referees get out of jail card. But this is a problem of the GAAs making. They have let Armagh off all year and they will continue to behave this way. Dublin and Kerry also got let off similarly.

If the GAA are serious about dealing with the issue they need to address the mess that is the rulebook. A referees report must be sacrosanct. No reds overturned ever. No matter what. If the ref gets it wrong, he gets it wrong. Tough. Use only video to retrospectively ban for serious foul play missed by the referee. If he deals with it, then that's the matter closed. No appeals on technicalities because the report wasn't submitted in 4 different versions of Irish or this nonsense.
So Coldrick made a balls of it but the refs report must be sacrosanct. If youíre winding at least donít make it so obvious. Sean Kelly doesnít deserve to miss an all ireland semi final. Thought the ref was woeful all day tbh.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Armamike on June 27, 2022, 11:29:26 AM
So there you are now. Some thoughts.

It was fantastic entertainment.
Rian O'Neill is a serious player. What a huge performance. Great score at the end but he was everywhere. But he is all Armagh have. A lot of the rest of them are limited players.
The sending off was a funny one. Initally I thought it very harsh, felt a yellow was enough but looking at it again last night I can see why Coldrick gave it.
Galway are a good team. A lot of Armagh ppl felt that it was only a matter of turning up. Had heard a lot of stories of Armagh fans getting carried away. Galway didn't get caught in the hype and after they settled they went about their business with great efficiency. They did shite the togs. They need to learn how to lose games out.

The row was the row and yer man made a bollocks of himself. Everyone will get off no matter what suspensions the GAA throw at them. Coldrick made a balls of it. Contributing to a melee is the referees get out of jail card. But this is a problem of the GAAs making. They have let Armagh off all year and they will continue to behave this way. Dublin and Kerry also got let off similarly.

If the GAA are serious about dealing with the issue they need to address the mess that is the rulebook. A referees report must be sacrosanct. No reds overturned ever. No matter what. If the ref gets it wrong, he gets it wrong. Tough. Use only video to retrospectively ban for serious foul play missed by the referee. If he deals with it, then that's the matter closed. No appeals on technicalities because the report wasn't submitted in 4 different versions of Irish or this nonsense.

Your analysis doesn't really add up.  Rian is a special talent but if you've seen much of Armagh over the past few months you'll know we have a range of scorers in most matches.  Yesterday was the same.  He didn't exactly kick 1.20 for us.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 27, 2022, 11:30:28 AM
Was listening to RTE radio on the way home from a game, so didn't see game till later, but they reported at the time the Coldrick went and spoke to both county sec's explained what he was going to do and they went to the changing rooms to speak to players..

So when they came out the players already knew they were getting sent off.. strange that it was the two captains as if it were an agreement of sorts .. very off considering the amount that was involved
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: imtommygunn on June 27, 2022, 11:32:56 AM
I don't think Kelly knew. You could tell by the look on his face he was surprised / shocked.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: trailer on June 27, 2022, 11:34:37 AM
So there you are now. Some thoughts.

It was fantastic entertainment.
Rian O'Neill is a serious player. What a huge performance. Great score at the end but he was everywhere. But he is all Armagh have. A lot of the rest of them are limited players.
The sending off was a funny one. Initally I thought it very harsh, felt a yellow was enough but looking at it again last night I can see why Coldrick gave it.
Galway are a good team. A lot of Armagh ppl felt that it was only a matter of turning up. Had heard a lot of stories of Armagh fans getting carried away. Galway didn't get caught in the hype and after they settled they went about their business with great efficiency. They did shite the togs. They need to learn how to lose games out.

The row was the row and yer man made a bollocks of himself. Everyone will get off no matter what suspensions the GAA throw at them. Coldrick made a balls of it. Contributing to a melee is the referees get out of jail card. But this is a problem of the GAAs making. They have let Armagh off all year and they will continue to behave this way. Dublin and Kerry also got let off similarly.

If the GAA are serious about dealing with the issue they need to address the mess that is the rulebook. A referees report must be sacrosanct. No reds overturned ever. No matter what. If the ref gets it wrong, he gets it wrong. Tough. Use only video to retrospectively ban for serious foul play missed by the referee. If he deals with it, then that's the matter closed. No appeals on technicalities because the report wasn't submitted in 4 different versions of Irish or this nonsense.
So Coldrick made a balls of it but the refs report must be sacrosanct. If youíre winding at least donít make it so obvious. Sean Kelly doesnít deserve to miss an all ireland semi final. Thought the ref was woeful all day tbh.

I'm not winding. If Coldrick thought he had any power he'd have lined 15 from each side. The rulebook is a mess and then by extension so was his handling of the row.
I was kind of on your side but you know what you're proving everyone's point. Armagh can do no wrong. It's their responsibility. There is a clear Armagh directive, one in all in. Can't send us all off boys. They all pumped up out of their minds like McGeeney was when he played.

Armagh are playing with the big boys now and need to realise that every single incident will be poured over. Tyrone live with this daily.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: yellowcard on June 27, 2022, 11:38:59 AM
So there you are now. Some thoughts.

It was fantastic entertainment.
Rian O'Neill is a serious player. What a huge performance. Great score at the end but he was everywhere. But he is all Armagh have. A lot of the rest of them are limited players.
The sending off was a funny one. Initally I thought it very harsh, felt a yellow was enough but looking at it again last night I can see why Coldrick gave it.
Galway are a good team. A lot of Armagh ppl felt that it was only a matter of turning up. Had heard a lot of stories of Armagh fans getting carried away. Galway didn't get caught in the hype and after they settled they went about their business with great efficiency. They did shite the togs. They need to learn how to lose games out.

The row was the row and yer man made a bollocks of himself. Everyone will get off no matter what suspensions the GAA throw at them. Coldrick made a balls of it. Contributing to a melee is the referees get out of jail card. But this is a problem of the GAAs making. They have let Armagh off all year and they will continue to behave this way. Dublin and Kerry also got let off similarly.

If the GAA are serious about dealing with the issue they need to address the mess that is the rulebook. A referees report must be sacrosanct. No reds overturned ever. No matter what. If the ref gets it wrong, he gets it wrong. Tough. Use only video to retrospectively ban for serious foul play missed by the referee. If he deals with it, then that's the matter closed. No appeals on technicalities because the report wasn't submitted in 4 different versions of Irish or this nonsense.
So Coldrick made a balls of it but the refs report must be sacrosanct. If youíre winding at least donít make it so obvious. Sean Kelly doesnít deserve to miss an all ireland semi final. Thought the ref was woeful all day tbh.

I'm not winding. If Coldrick thought he had any power he'd have lined 15 from each side. The rulebook is a mess and then by extension so was his handling of the row.
I was kind of on your side but you know what you're proving everyone's point. Armagh can do no wrong. It's their responsibility. There is a clear Armagh directive, one in all in. Can't send us all off boys. They all pumped up out of their minds like McGeeney was when he played.

Armagh are playing with the big boys now and need to realise that every single incident will be poured over. Tyrone live with this daily.

Tyrone haven't lived with it much this year anyway, they were long gone before the championship had even begun in earnest.

Sean Kelly will get off on appeal because looking at the replay he done nothing to warrant a red card. The Galway player that swung a punch at Kelly should get banned and after that it was all argy bargy stuff with very little actual foul play. But the media will make a big deal of it as usual and big bad Armagh will probably get the blame. 
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Armamike on June 27, 2022, 11:39:41 AM
So there you are now. Some thoughts.

It was fantastic entertainment.
Rian O'Neill is a serious player. What a huge performance. Great score at the end but he was everywhere. But he is all Armagh have. A lot of the rest of them are limited players.
The sending off was a funny one. Initally I thought it very harsh, felt a yellow was enough but looking at it again last night I can see why Coldrick gave it.
Galway are a good team. A lot of Armagh ppl felt that it was only a matter of turning up. Had heard a lot of stories of Armagh fans getting carried away. Galway didn't get caught in the hype and after they settled they went about their business with great efficiency. They did shite the togs. They need to learn how to lose games out.

The row was the row and yer man made a bollocks of himself. Everyone will get off no matter what suspensions the GAA throw at them. Coldrick made a balls of it. Contributing to a melee is the referees get out of jail card. But this is a problem of the GAAs making. They have let Armagh off all year and they will continue to behave this way. Dublin and Kerry also got let off similarly.

If the GAA are serious about dealing with the issue they need to address the mess that is the rulebook. A referees report must be sacrosanct. No reds overturned ever. No matter what. If the ref gets it wrong, he gets it wrong. Tough. Use only video to retrospectively ban for serious foul play missed by the referee. If he deals with it, then that's the matter closed. No appeals on technicalities because the report wasn't submitted in 4 different versions of Irish or this nonsense.
So Coldrick made a balls of it but the refs report must be sacrosanct. If youíre winding at least donít make it so obvious. Sean Kelly doesnít deserve to miss an all ireland semi final. Thought the ref was woeful all day tbh.

I'm not winding. If Coldrick thought he had any power he'd have lined 15 from each side. The rulebook is a mess and then by extension so was his handling of the row.
I was kind of on your side but you know what you're proving everyone's point. Armagh can do no wrong. It's their responsibility. There is a clear Armagh directive, one in all in. Can't send us all off boys. They all pumped up out of their minds like McGeeney was when he played.

Armagh are playing with the big boys now and need to realise that every single incident will be poured over. Tyrone live with this daily.

McGeeney hit hard but when was he ever sent off or involved in a melee?
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: trailer on June 27, 2022, 11:43:59 AM
So there you are now. Some thoughts.

It was fantastic entertainment.
Rian O'Neill is a serious player. What a huge performance. Great score at the end but he was everywhere. But he is all Armagh have. A lot of the rest of them are limited players.
The sending off was a funny one. Initally I thought it very harsh, felt a yellow was enough but looking at it again last night I can see why Coldrick gave it.
Galway are a good team. A lot of Armagh ppl felt that it was only a matter of turning up. Had heard a lot of stories of Armagh fans getting carried away. Galway didn't get caught in the hype and after they settled they went about their business with great efficiency. They did shite the togs. They need to learn how to lose games out.

The row was the row and yer man made a bollocks of himself. Everyone will get off no matter what suspensions the GAA throw at them. Coldrick made a balls of it. Contributing to a melee is the referees get out of jail card. But this is a problem of the GAAs making. They have let Armagh off all year and they will continue to behave this way. Dublin and Kerry also got let off similarly.

If the GAA are serious about dealing with the issue they need to address the mess that is the rulebook. A referees report must be sacrosanct. No reds overturned ever. No matter what. If the ref gets it wrong, he gets it wrong. Tough. Use only video to retrospectively ban for serious foul play missed by the referee. If he deals with it, then that's the matter closed. No appeals on technicalities because the report wasn't submitted in 4 different versions of Irish or this nonsense.
So Coldrick made a balls of it but the refs report must be sacrosanct. If youíre winding at least donít make it so obvious. Sean Kelly doesnít deserve to miss an all ireland semi final. Thought the ref was woeful all day tbh.

I'm not winding. If Coldrick thought he had any power he'd have lined 15 from each side. The rulebook is a mess and then by extension so was his handling of the row.
I was kind of on your side but you know what you're proving everyone's point. Armagh can do no wrong. It's their responsibility. There is a clear Armagh directive, one in all in. Can't send us all off boys. They all pumped up out of their minds like McGeeney was when he played.

Armagh are playing with the big boys now and need to realise that every single incident will be poured over. Tyrone live with this daily.

Tyrone haven't lived with it much this year anyway, they were long gone before the championship had even begun in earnest.

Sean Kelly will get off on appeal because looking at the replay he done nothing to warrant a red card. The Galway player that swung a punch at Kelly should get banned and after that it was all argy bargy stuff with very little actual foul play. But the media will make a big deal of it as usual and big bad Armagh will probably get the blame.

Jesus Christ. A person could have lost his sight.
If Armagh owned up here ppl would have more sympathy.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: yellowcard on June 27, 2022, 11:49:19 AM
So there you are now. Some thoughts.

It was fantastic entertainment.
Rian O'Neill is a serious player. What a huge performance. Great score at the end but he was everywhere. But he is all Armagh have. A lot of the rest of them are limited players.
The sending off was a funny one. Initally I thought it very harsh, felt a yellow was enough but looking at it again last night I can see why Coldrick gave it.
Galway are a good team. A lot of Armagh ppl felt that it was only a matter of turning up. Had heard a lot of stories of Armagh fans getting carried away. Galway didn't get caught in the hype and after they settled they went about their business with great efficiency. They did shite the togs. They need to learn how to lose games out.

The row was the row and yer man made a bollocks of himself. Everyone will get off no matter what suspensions the GAA throw at them. Coldrick made a balls of it. Contributing to a melee is the referees get out of jail card. But this is a problem of the GAAs making. They have let Armagh off all year and they will continue to behave this way. Dublin and Kerry also got let off similarly.

If the GAA are serious about dealing with the issue they need to address the mess that is the rulebook. A referees report must be sacrosanct. No reds overturned ever. No matter what. If the ref gets it wrong, he gets it wrong. Tough. Use only video to retrospectively ban for serious foul play missed by the referee. If he deals with it, then that's the matter closed. No appeals on technicalities because the report wasn't submitted in 4 different versions of Irish or this nonsense.
So Coldrick made a balls of it but the refs report must be sacrosanct. If youíre winding at least donít make it so obvious. Sean Kelly doesnít deserve to miss an all ireland semi final. Thought the ref was woeful all day tbh.

I'm not winding. If Coldrick thought he had any power he'd have lined 15 from each side. The rulebook is a mess and then by extension so was his handling of the row.
I was kind of on your side but you know what you're proving everyone's point. Armagh can do no wrong. It's their responsibility. There is a clear Armagh directive, one in all in. Can't send us all off boys. They all pumped up out of their minds like McGeeney was when he played.

Armagh are playing with the big boys now and need to realise that every single incident will be poured over. Tyrone live with this daily.

Tyrone haven't lived with it much this year anyway, they were long gone before the championship had even begun in earnest.

Sean Kelly will get off on appeal because looking at the replay he done nothing to warrant a red card. The Galway player that swung a punch at Kelly should get banned and after that it was all argy bargy stuff with very little actual foul play. But the media will make a big deal of it as usual and big bad Armagh will probably get the blame.

Jesus Christ. A person could have lost his sight.
If Armagh owned up here ppl would have more sympathy.

I don't think anybody is condoning the gouging but don't start over dramatising it either saying he could have lost his sight. Kelly will get rightly banned together with the Galway lad that swung the punch back at him but I was talking about everything else that went on. However its a bit rich for Tyrone fans to be jumping in looking for players to get lynched.   
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Brick Tamlin on June 27, 2022, 11:49:22 AM
Its all in the coaching and team culture built up over a number of years. If anyone thinks that McKLeever and McGeeneys 'style' isnt all over that team then they need their heads read.
Monkey see monkey do.
Its premeditated not to ever actually strike. Becasue thats a sending off offence. So lads, no striking whatever you do.
But make sure you grapple, wrestle, grab, twist and hold onto him like your life depends on it and dont ever back down or let go first. Thats a sign of weakness and we cant have that, because after all, we're all big men and we like to flex how big we are.

Whilst there is alot to admire about Armagh's journey and football theyve played, they still get involved too much, indulge in thuggish shite and foul too easily. Their obsession with chest beating macho bull shit and insistence in turning every game into a dick-measuring contest was always gonna bite them at some stage.
Theyve lost this particular dick-measuring contest and its gonna hurt for a while.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Armagh18 on June 27, 2022, 11:51:32 AM
So there you are now. Some thoughts.

It was fantastic entertainment.
Rian O'Neill is a serious player. What a huge performance. Great score at the end but he was everywhere. But he is all Armagh have. A lot of the rest of them are limited players.
The sending off was a funny one. Initally I thought it very harsh, felt a yellow was enough but looking at it again last night I can see why Coldrick gave it.
Galway are a good team. A lot of Armagh ppl felt that it was only a matter of turning up. Had heard a lot of stories of Armagh fans getting carried away. Galway didn't get caught in the hype and after they settled they went about their business with great efficiency. They did shite the togs. They need to learn how to lose games out.

The row was the row and yer man made a bollocks of himself. Everyone will get off no matter what suspensions the GAA throw at them. Coldrick made a balls of it. Contributing to a melee is the referees get out of jail card. But this is a problem of the GAAs making. They have let Armagh off all year and they will continue to behave this way. Dublin and Kerry also got let off similarly.

If the GAA are serious about dealing with the issue they need to address the mess that is the rulebook. A referees report must be sacrosanct. No reds overturned ever. No matter what. If the ref gets it wrong, he gets it wrong. Tough. Use only video to retrospectively ban for serious foul play missed by the referee. If he deals with it, then that's the matter closed. No appeals on technicalities because the report wasn't submitted in 4 different versions of Irish or this nonsense.
So Coldrick made a balls of it but the refs report must be sacrosanct. If youíre winding at least donít make it so obvious. Sean Kelly doesnít deserve to miss an all ireland semi final. Thought the ref was woeful all day tbh.

I'm not winding. If Coldrick thought he had any power he'd have lined 15 from each side. The rulebook is a mess and then by extension so was his handling of the row.
I was kind of on your side but you know what you're proving everyone's point. Armagh can do no wrong. It's their responsibility. There is a clear Armagh directive, one in all in. Can't send us all off boys. They all pumped up out of their minds like McGeeney was when he played.

Armagh are playing with the big boys now and need to realise that every single incident will be poured over. Tyrone live with this daily.

Tyrone haven't lived with it much this year anyway, they were long gone before the championship had even begun in earnest.

Sean Kelly will get off on appeal because looking at the replay he done nothing to warrant a red card. The Galway player that swung a punch at Kelly should get banned and after that it was all argy bargy stuff with very little actual foul play. But the media will make a big deal of it as usual and big bad Armagh will probably get the blame.
Genuinely hope he does get off-very unfair on him. Will Nugent and Gregís suspension carry to next year? They both deserve to get off too. 

Donít think youíll find too many people complaining if that lad gets off too.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: marty34 on June 27, 2022, 11:52:38 AM
Highly disappointing to see us involved in another fracas.  It has to stop.  I can't fathom that our management would send the players out to do that - but it's something that has to be forcibly drilled in from here on.  No more of it.  If the GAA don't have anything in place to stop 2 teams who are pumped up after a hard fought finish running down the tunnel together then we have to get our own house in order and instruct our players to wait on the pitch.

It wasn't the GAA fault
Its hard to believe that its not drilled into Armagh to start rows considering the amount of incidents Armagh are involved in
Its rumoured they coach MMA
Ironically one of the only things barred in MMA is eye gouging!

As much as I dislike them being an opposing county the above is a complete load of shite.

How do you drill it into a team to start rows?

Its a psychological thing - the way they are coached. For example do you see other counties get into this type scenario this often. Take the Dubs or Kerry they have players who are targeted continually but they must drum it into there team not to get involved because they rarely have scenarios even close to this.

Armagh had a good season but they have a reputation which has now defined them. We should be talking about how Rian O'Neill is an awesome footballer but all we are talking about is Armaghs usual dirty tricks!
Takes 2 to tango. Dublin and Kerry were at something very similar a few months ago so you must have a short memory.

Best player in Ireland imo. Clifford and Con maybe better forwards but Rian could play anywhere on the pitch and be top class at it.

Also there arenít too many players in the country whoíd have had the balls to take that shot on and nail it like that after 70 minutes.

I think I heard on TSG last night that Dean Rock hasn't missed a free in this years championship?

Would that be right?
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Armagh18 on June 27, 2022, 11:52:51 AM
So there you are now. Some thoughts.

It was fantastic entertainment.
Rian O'Neill is a serious player. What a huge performance. Great score at the end but he was everywhere. But he is all Armagh have. A lot of the rest of them are limited players.
The sending off was a funny one. Initally I thought it very harsh, felt a yellow was enough but looking at it again last night I can see why Coldrick gave it.
Galway are a good team. A lot of Armagh ppl felt that it was only a matter of turning up. Had heard a lot of stories of Armagh fans getting carried away. Galway didn't get caught in the hype and after they settled they went about their business with great efficiency. They did shite the togs. They need to learn how to lose games out.

The row was the row and yer man made a bollocks of himself. Everyone will get off no matter what suspensions the GAA throw at them. Coldrick made a balls of it. Contributing to a melee is the referees get out of jail card. But this is a problem of the GAAs making. They have let Armagh off all year and they will continue to behave this way. Dublin and Kerry also got let off similarly.

If the GAA are serious about dealing with the issue they need to address the mess that is the rulebook. A referees report must be sacrosanct. No reds overturned ever. No matter what. If the ref gets it wrong, he gets it wrong. Tough. Use only video to retrospectively ban for serious foul play missed by the referee. If he deals with it, then that's the matter closed. No appeals on technicalities because the report wasn't submitted in 4 different versions of Irish or this nonsense.
So Coldrick made a balls of it but the refs report must be sacrosanct. If youíre winding at least donít make it so obvious. Sean Kelly doesnít deserve to miss an all ireland semi final. Thought the ref was woeful all day tbh.

I'm not winding. If Coldrick thought he had any power he'd have lined 15 from each side. The rulebook is a mess and then by extension so was his handling of the row.
I was kind of on your side but you know what you're proving everyone's point. Armagh can do no wrong. It's their responsibility. There is a clear Armagh directive, one in all in. Can't send us all off boys. They all pumped up out of their minds like McGeeney was when he played.

Armagh are playing with the big boys now and need to realise that every single incident will be poured over. Tyrone live with this daily.

Tyrone haven't lived with it much this year anyway, they were long gone before the championship had even begun in earnest.

Sean Kelly will get off on appeal because looking at the replay he done nothing to warrant a red card. The Galway player that swung a punch at Kelly should get banned and after that it was all argy bargy stuff with very little actual foul play. But the media will make a big deal of it as usual and big bad Armagh will probably get the blame.

Jesus Christ. A person could have lost his sight.
If Armagh owned up here ppl would have more sympathy.
Donít be such a drama queen. Goes without saying no one is defending the gouging. Other than that? Just pushing and shoving even Sean Cavanagh said nothing wrong with it.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: yellowcard on June 27, 2022, 11:55:08 AM
Its all in the coaching and team culture built up over a number of years. If anyone thinks that McKLeever and McGeeneys 'style' isnt all over that team then they need their heads read.
Monkey see monkey do.
Its premeditated not to ever actually strike. Becasue thats a sending off offence. So lads, no striking whatever you do.
But make sure you grapple, wrestle, grab, twist and hold onto him like your life depends on it and dont ever back down or let go first. Thats a sign of weakness and we cant have that, because after all, we're all big men and we like to flex how big we are.

Whilst there is alot to admire about Armagh's journey and football theyve played, they still get involved too much, indulge in thuggish shite and foul too easily. Their obsession with chest beating macho bull shit and insistence in turning every game into a dick-measuring contest was always gonna bite them at some stage.
Theyve lost this particular dick-measuring contest and its gonna hurt for a while.

Ridiculous to blame the manager and the defensive coach for an incident that happened on the pitch simply because they were tough players when they played themselves. The players on the pitch take responsibility for their own actions and one Armagh player stepped over the line. The rest of it is simply hand wringing and faux outrage from people with an anti Armagh agenda. 
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: armaghniac on June 27, 2022, 12:05:58 PM
Its all in the coaching and team culture built up over a number of years. If anyone thinks that McKLeever and McGeeneys 'style' isnt all over that team then they need their heads read.
Monkey see monkey do.
Its premeditated not to ever actually strike. Becasue thats a sending off offence. So lads, no striking whatever you do.
But make sure you grapple, wrestle, grab, twist and hold onto him like your life depends on it and dont ever back down or let go first. Thats a sign of weakness and we cant have that, because after all, we're all big men and we like to flex how big we are.

Whilst there is alot to admire about Armagh's journey and football theyve played, they still get involved too much, indulge in thuggish shite and foul too easily. Their obsession with chest beating macho bull shit and insistence in turning every game into a dick-measuring contest was always gonna bite them at some stage.
Theyve lost this particular dick-measuring contest and its gonna hurt for a while.

Ridiculous to blame the manager and the defensive coach for an incident that happened on the pitch simply because they were tough players when they played themselves. The players on the pitch take responsibility for their own actions and one Armagh player stepped over the line. The rest of it is simply hand wringing and faux outrage from people with an anti Armagh agenda.

It is a bit disappointing that there is a still an "all in" approach after events earlier in the season. The problem with everyone piling in is that things get magnified and there is always a risk of a Tiernan Kelly type incident in the heat of the moment.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: general_lee on June 27, 2022, 12:09:36 PM
Its all in the coaching and team culture built up over a number of years. If anyone thinks that McKLeever and McGeeneys 'style' isnt all over that team then they need their heads read.
Monkey see monkey do.
Its premeditated not to ever actually strike. Becasue thats a sending off offence. So lads, no striking whatever you do.
But make sure you grapple, wrestle, grab, twist and hold onto him like your life depends on it and dont ever back down or let go first. Thats a sign of weakness and we cant have that, because after all, we're all big men and we like to flex how big we are.

Whilst there is alot to admire about Armagh's journey and football theyve played, they still get involved too much, indulge in thuggish shite and foul too easily. Their obsession with chest beating macho bull shit and insistence in turning every game into a dick-measuring contest was always gonna bite them at some stage.
Theyve lost this particular dick-measuring contest and its gonna hurt for a while.
Iíve read some shite on here (mostly Tyrone and Derry people, ironically) chastising Armagh for yesterdays handbags. Iím not sure Armagh are coached to do anything specifically in terms of dark arts but the only criticism Iíll accept is that the management clearly havenít learned anything this year in terms of other teams riling them up.

Iíve asked it before but what exactly do Armagh, or any team for that matter, have to gain by starting a melee? There is literally nothing to be achieved from a premeditated melee.  Fair criticism of McGeeney/McKeever would be that their players fall for this shite too much: happened with Donegal, it happened with Tyrone and it happened again yesterday. TK deserves a hefty ban and if the powers that be make an example of him, so be it; moronic behaviour from him and something he shouldnít have involved himself with.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: johnnycool on June 27, 2022, 12:12:08 PM
The Galway sub/ panel member that swung after the gouging incident at Tiernan Kelly should see bit of a suspension also. Would be a handy way for all concerned to see these boys suspended, the Nugent & SeŠn Kelly reds rescinded and moving on allowing Galway a full hand v Derry. Penalising the extended panel and non playing individuals involved is fair in my opinion.

I hope it landed, but sadly not hard enough evidently.

Armagh sub was way out of order with the gouge, Comer couldn't protect himself from it, cheap shot.

Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Applesisapples on June 27, 2022, 12:13:01 PM
So there you are now. Some thoughts.

It was fantastic entertainment.
Rian O'Neill is a serious player. What a huge performance. Great score at the end but he was everywhere. But he is all Armagh have. A lot of the rest of them are limited players.
The sending off was a funny one. Initally I thought it very harsh, felt a yellow was enough but looking at it again last night I can see why Coldrick gave it.
Galway are a good team. A lot of Armagh ppl felt that it was only a matter of turning up. Had heard a lot of stories of Armagh fans getting carried away. Galway didn't get caught in the hype and after they settled they went about their business with great efficiency. They did shite the togs. They need to learn how to lose games out.

The row was the row and yer man made a bollocks of himself. Everyone will get off no matter what suspensions the GAA throw at them. Coldrick made a balls of it. Contributing to a melee is the referees get out of jail card. But this is a problem of the GAAs making. They have let Armagh off all year and they will continue to behave this way. Dublin and Kerry also got let off similarly.

If the GAA are serious about dealing with the issue they need to address the mess that is the rulebook. A referees report must be sacrosanct. No reds overturned ever. No matter what. If the ref gets it wrong, he gets it wrong. Tough. Use only video to retrospectively ban for serious foul play missed by the referee. If he deals with it, then that's the matter closed. No appeals on technicalities because the report wasn't submitted in 4 different versions of Irish or this nonsense.

Your analysis doesn't really add up.  Rian is a special talent but if you've seen much of Armagh over the past few months you'll know we have a range of scorers in most matches.  Yesterday was the same.  He didn't exactly kick 1.20 for us.
If you use that analysis then Derry would have nothing without Mcguigan (1-08). Armagh have plenty of good players and unfortunately with injuries the panel was a little bare yesterday when it mattered.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Itchy on June 27, 2022, 12:13:30 PM
Its all in the coaching and team culture built up over a number of years. If anyone thinks that McKLeever and McGeeneys 'style' isnt all over that team then they need their heads read.
Monkey see monkey do.
Its premeditated not to ever actually strike. Becasue thats a sending off offence. So lads, no striking whatever you do.
But make sure you grapple, wrestle, grab, twist and hold onto him like your life depends on it and dont ever back down or let go first. Thats a sign of weakness and we cant have that, because after all, we're all big men and we like to flex how big we are.

Whilst there is alot to admire about Armagh's journey and football theyve played, they still get involved too much, indulge in thuggish shite and foul too easily. Their obsession with chest beating macho bull shit and insistence in turning every game into a dick-measuring contest was always gonna bite them at some stage.
Theyve lost this particular dick-measuring contest and its gonna hurt for a while.

Ridiculous to blame the manager and the defensive coach for an incident that happened on the pitch simply because they were tough players when they played themselves. The players on the pitch take responsibility for their own actions and one Armagh player stepped over the line. The rest of it is simply hand wringing and faux outrage from people with an anti Armagh agenda.

I think there is a lot of truth to what he said actually. A team that is consistently getting into scrapes has a culture of it in the camp. Where else does a culture like  this come from? Even McGeeneys very poor interview afterwards showed the culture and mentality.

Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Applesisapples on June 27, 2022, 12:15:35 PM
So there you are now. Some thoughts.

It was fantastic entertainment.
Rian O'Neill is a serious player. What a huge performance. Great score at the end but he was everywhere. But he is all Armagh have. A lot of the rest of them are limited players.
The sending off was a funny one. Initally I thought it very harsh, felt a yellow was enough but looking at it again last night I can see why Coldrick gave it.
Galway are a good team. A lot of Armagh ppl felt that it was only a matter of turning up. Had heard a lot of stories of Armagh fans getting carried away. Galway didn't get caught in the hype and after they settled they went about their business with great efficiency. They did shite the togs. They need to learn how to lose games out.

The row was the row and yer man made a bollocks of himself. Everyone will get off no matter what suspensions the GAA throw at them. Coldrick made a balls of it. Contributing to a melee is the referees get out of jail card. But this is a problem of the GAAs making. They have let Armagh off all year and they will continue to behave this way. Dublin and Kerry also got let off similarly.

If the GAA are serious about dealing with the issue they need to address the mess that is the rulebook. A referees report must be sacrosanct. No reds overturned ever. No matter what. If the ref gets it wrong, he gets it wrong. Tough. Use only video to retrospectively ban for serious foul play missed by the referee. If he deals with it, then that's the matter closed. No appeals on technicalities because the report wasn't submitted in 4 different versions of Irish or this nonsense.
So Coldrick made a balls of it but the refs report must be sacrosanct. If youíre winding at least donít make it so obvious. Sean Kelly doesnít deserve to miss an all ireland semi final. Thought the ref was woeful all day tbh.

I'm not winding. If Coldrick thought he had any power he'd have lined 15 from each side. The rulebook is a mess and then by extension so was his handling of the row.
I was kind of on your side but you know what you're proving everyone's point. Armagh can do no wrong. It's their responsibility. There is a clear Armagh directive, one in all in. Can't send us all off boys. They all pumped up out of their minds like McGeeney was when he played.

Armagh are playing with the big boys now and need to realise that every single incident will be poured over. Tyrone live with this daily.

Tyrone haven't lived with it much this year anyway, they were long gone before the championship had even begun in earnest.

Sean Kelly will get off on appeal because looking at the replay he done nothing to warrant a red card. The Galway player that swung a punch at Kelly should get banned and after that it was all argy bargy stuff with very little actual foul play. But the media will make a big deal of it as usual and big bad Armagh will probably get the blame.

Jesus Christ. A person could have lost his sight.
If Armagh owned up here ppl would have more sympathy.
Plenty of Armagh people calling out the gouging, not so many others calling Comer out for starting it. It is unsightly and the GAA needs to do more to stop it.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Taylor on June 27, 2022, 12:17:52 PM
Its all in the coaching and team culture built up over a number of years. If anyone thinks that McKLeever and McGeeneys 'style' isnt all over that team then they need their heads read.
Monkey see monkey do.
Its premeditated not to ever actually strike. Becasue thats a sending off offence. So lads, no striking whatever you do.
But make sure you grapple, wrestle, grab, twist and hold onto him like your life depends on it and dont ever back down or let go first. Thats a sign of weakness and we cant have that, because after all, we're all big men and we like to flex how big we are.

Whilst there is alot to admire about Armagh's journey and football theyve played, they still get involved too much, indulge in thuggish shite and foul too easily. Their obsession with chest beating macho bull shit and insistence in turning every game into a dick-measuring contest was always gonna bite them at some stage.
Theyve lost this particular dick-measuring contest and its gonna hurt for a while.
Iíve read some shite on here (mostly Tyrone and Derry people, ironically) chastising Armagh for yesterdays handbags. Iím not sure Armagh are coached to do anything specifically in terms of dark arts but the only criticism Iíll accept is that the management clearly havenít learned anything this year in terms of other teams riling them up.

Iíve asked it before but what exactly do Armagh, or any team for that matter, have to gain by starting a melee? There is literally nothing to be achieved from a premeditated melee.  Fair criticism of McGeeney/McKeever would be that their players fall for this shite too much: happened with Donegal, it happened with Tyrone and it happened again yesterday. TK deserves a hefty ban and if the powers that be make an example of him, so be it; moronic behaviour from him and something he shouldnít have involved himself with.

What has this got to do with yesterday.

The Armagh #2 ran after Comer and barged into him on the way to the tunnel.

Thats how the melee started
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Armagh18 on June 27, 2022, 12:20:52 PM
So there you are now. Some thoughts.

It was fantastic entertainment.
Rian O'Neill is a serious player. What a huge performance. Great score at the end but he was everywhere. But he is all Armagh have. A lot of the rest of them are limited players.
The sending off was a funny one. Initally I thought it very harsh, felt a yellow was enough but looking at it again last night I can see why Coldrick gave it.
Galway are a good team. A lot of Armagh ppl felt that it was only a matter of turning up. Had heard a lot of stories of Armagh fans getting carried away. Galway didn't get caught in the hype and after they settled they went about their business with great efficiency. They did shite the togs. They need to learn how to lose games out.

The row was the row and yer man made a bollocks of himself. Everyone will get off no matter what suspensions the GAA throw at them. Coldrick made a balls of it. Contributing to a melee is the referees get out of jail card. But this is a problem of the GAAs making. They have let Armagh off all year and they will continue to behave this way. Dublin and Kerry also got let off similarly.

If the GAA are serious about dealing with the issue they need to address the mess that is the rulebook. A referees report must be sacrosanct. No reds overturned ever. No matter what. If the ref gets it wrong, he gets it wrong. Tough. Use only video to retrospectively ban for serious foul play missed by the referee. If he deals with it, then that's the matter closed. No appeals on technicalities because the report wasn't submitted in 4 different versions of Irish or this nonsense.

Your analysis doesn't really add up.  Rian is a special talent but if you've seen much of Armagh over the past few months you'll know we have a range of scorers in most matches.  Yesterday was the same.  He didn't exactly kick 1.20 for us.
If you use that analysis then Derry would have nothing without Mcguigan (1-08). Armagh have plenty of good players and unfortunately with injuries the panel was a little bare yesterday when it mattered.
Yeah TK due to long term issue was unfortunately scraping Comers eyes out ;) rather than shooting the lights out in Croker, ditto Oisin OíNeill. 
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: tonto1888 on June 27, 2022, 12:21:23 PM
So there you are now. Some thoughts.

It was fantastic entertainment.
Rian O'Neill is a serious player. What a huge performance. Great score at the end but he was everywhere. But he is all Armagh have. A lot of the rest of them are limited players.
The sending off was a funny one. Initally I thought it very harsh, felt a yellow was enough but looking at it again last night I can see why Coldrick gave it.
Galway are a good team. A lot of Armagh ppl felt that it was only a matter of turning up. Had heard a lot of stories of Armagh fans getting carried away. Galway didn't get caught in the hype and after they settled they went about their business with great efficiency. They did shite the togs. They need to learn how to lose games out.

The row was the row and yer man made a bollocks of himself. Everyone will get off no matter what suspensions the GAA throw at them. Coldrick made a balls of it. Contributing to a melee is the referees get out of jail card. But this is a problem of the GAAs making. They have let Armagh off all year and they will continue to behave this way. Dublin and Kerry also got let off similarly.

If the GAA are serious about dealing with the issue they need to address the mess that is the rulebook. A referees report must be sacrosanct. No reds overturned ever. No matter what. If the ref gets it wrong, he gets it wrong. Tough. Use only video to retrospectively ban for serious foul play missed by the referee. If he deals with it, then that's the matter closed. No appeals on technicalities because the report wasn't submitted in 4 different versions of Irish or this nonsense.
So Coldrick made a balls of it but the refs report must be sacrosanct. If youíre winding at least donít make it so obvious. Sean Kelly doesnít deserve to miss an all ireland semi final. Thought the ref was woeful all day tbh.

I'm not winding. If Coldrick thought he had any power he'd have lined 15 from each side. The rulebook is a mess and then by extension so was his handling of the row.
I was kind of on your side but you know what you're proving everyone's point. Armagh can do no wrong. It's their responsibility. There is a clear Armagh directive, one in all in. Can't send us all off boys. They all pumped up out of their minds like McGeeney was when he played.

Armagh are playing with the big boys now and need to realise that every single incident will be poured over. Tyrone live with this daily.

Tyrone haven't lived with it much this year anyway, they were long gone before the championship had even begun in earnest.

Sean Kelly will get off on appeal because looking at the replay he done nothing to warrant a red card. The Galway player that swung a punch at Kelly should get banned and after that it was all argy bargy stuff with very little actual foul play. But the media will make a big deal of it as usual and big bad Armagh will probably get the blame.

Jesus Christ. A person could have lost his sight.
If Armagh owned up here ppl would have more sympathy.

Most of us have. It doesnít matter that Tak is actually a good guy who does a lot in the community etc. he done what he done and must face the consequences. He needs to be let do that tho and left to learn form his mistake. The witch hunt has to end
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Brick Tamlin on June 27, 2022, 12:23:10 PM
Honestly hard to fathom that some Armagh ones on here are more disappointed that their players are 'hoodwinked' into getting involved in scrapes and fracas. Unreal actually.
Your team has been knee deep in nonsense for the last 10 years on the field and there are a few repeat offenders that stevie wonder could spot before a game even starts yet you think that its the refs, the opposition and everyone else conspiring against you.


Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: yellowcard on June 27, 2022, 12:25:14 PM
Its all in the coaching and team culture built up over a number of years. If anyone thinks that McKLeever and McGeeneys 'style' isnt all over that team then they need their heads read.
Monkey see monkey do.
Its premeditated not to ever actually strike. Becasue thats a sending off offence. So lads, no striking whatever you do.
But make sure you grapple, wrestle, grab, twist and hold onto him like your life depends on it and dont ever back down or let go first. Thats a sign of weakness and we cant have that, because after all, we're all big men and we like to flex how big we are.

Whilst there is alot to admire about Armagh's journey and football theyve played, they still get involved too much, indulge in thuggish shite and foul too easily. Their obsession with chest beating macho bull shit and insistence in turning every game into a dick-measuring contest was always gonna bite them at some stage.
Theyve lost this particular dick-measuring contest and its gonna hurt for a while.

Ridiculous to blame the manager and the defensive coach for an incident that happened on the pitch simply because they were tough players when they played themselves. The players on the pitch take responsibility for their own actions and one Armagh player stepped over the line. The rest of it is simply hand wringing and faux outrage from people with an anti Armagh agenda.

I think there is a lot of truth to what he said actually. A team that is consistently getting into scrapes has a culture of it in the camp. Where else does a culture like  this come from? Even McGeeneys very poor interview afterwards showed the culture and mentality.

What scrapes though, there was hardly a blow struck in any of them. It is of no value for anybody to get involved in these incidents but bar yesterdays gouge its hardly lock up the children stuff either. Its just hand wringing from a few people with an agenda. I said as soon as the melee started that Armagh will probably get blamed and as sure as eggs are eggs it is getting pinned on McGeeney and McKeever. Why stop at thsoe two men though and what about Kieran Donaghy then? Does he get blamed too or does it not suit the narrative because he is a Kerry man?
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: marty34 on June 27, 2022, 12:29:38 PM
So there you are now. Some thoughts.

It was fantastic entertainment.
Rian O'Neill is a serious player. What a huge performance. Great score at the end but he was everywhere. But he is all Armagh have. A lot of the rest of them are limited players.
The sending off was a funny one. Initally I thought it very harsh, felt a yellow was enough but looking at it again last night I can see why Coldrick gave it.
Galway are a good team. A lot of Armagh ppl felt that it was only a matter of turning up. Had heard a lot of stories of Armagh fans getting carried away. Galway didn't get caught in the hype and after they settled they went about their business with great efficiency. They did shite the togs. They need to learn how to lose games out.

The row was the row and yer man made a bollocks of himself. Everyone will get off no matter what suspensions the GAA throw at them. Coldrick made a balls of it. Contributing to a melee is the referees get out of jail card. But this is a problem of the GAAs making. They have let Armagh off all year and they will continue to behave this way. Dublin and Kerry also got let off similarly.

If the GAA are serious about dealing with the issue they need to address the mess that is the rulebook. A referees report must be sacrosanct. No reds overturned ever. No matter what. If the ref gets it wrong, he gets it wrong. Tough. Use only video to retrospectively ban for serious foul play missed by the referee. If he deals with it, then that's the matter closed. No appeals on technicalities because the report wasn't submitted in 4 different versions of Irish or this nonsense.
So Coldrick made a balls of it but the refs report must be sacrosanct. If youíre winding at least donít make it so obvious. Sean Kelly doesnít deserve to miss an all ireland semi final. Thought the ref was woeful all day tbh.

I'm not winding. If Coldrick thought he had any power he'd have lined 15 from each side. The rulebook is a mess and then by extension so was his handling of the row.
I was kind of on your side but you know what you're proving everyone's point. Armagh can do no wrong. It's their responsibility. There is a clear Armagh directive, one in all in. Can't send us all off boys. They all pumped up out of their minds like McGeeney was when he played.

Armagh are playing with the big boys now and need to realise that every single incident will be poured over. Tyrone live with this daily.

Tyrone haven't lived with it much this year anyway, they were long gone before the championship had even begun in earnest.

Sean Kelly will get off on appeal because looking at the replay he done nothing to warrant a red card. The Galway player that swung a punch at Kelly should get banned and after that it was all argy bargy stuff with very little actual foul play. But the media will make a big deal of it as usual and big bad Armagh will probably get the blame.
Genuinely hope he does get off-very unfair on him. Will Nugent and Gregís suspension carry to next year? They both deserve to get off too. 

Donít think youíll find too many people complaining if that lad gets off too.

Why Mc Cabe?

His was a deserved red.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Brick Tamlin on June 27, 2022, 12:29:42 PM
Theyve been at it before Donaghy arrived on the ticket.
Im not referring to the gouging because thats a separate thing thats unexplainable.
Open your eyes man. James Morgan and Greg McCabe are card magnets and dont help themselves or the team with their nonsense.
There are a few others who are a shoe-in for cards every game. Armagh are a betting man's dream when it comes to cards.

Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: marty34 on June 27, 2022, 12:36:59 PM
Its all in the coaching and team culture built up over a number of years. If anyone thinks that McKLeever and McGeeneys 'style' isnt all over that team then they need their heads read.
Monkey see monkey do.
Its premeditated not to ever actually strike. Becasue thats a sending off offence. So lads, no striking whatever you do.
But make sure you grapple, wrestle, grab, twist and hold onto him like your life depends on it and dont ever back down or let go first. Thats a sign of weakness and we cant have that, because after all, we're all big men and we like to flex how big we are.

Whilst there is alot to admire about Armagh's journey and football theyve played, they still get involved too much, indulge in thuggish shite and foul too easily. Their obsession with chest beating macho bull shit and insistence in turning every game into a dick-measuring contest was always gonna bite them at some stage.
Theyve lost this particular dick-measuring contest and its gonna hurt for a while.

Ridiculous to blame the manager and the defensive coach for an incident that happened on the pitch simply because they were tough players when they played themselves. The players on the pitch take responsibility for their own actions and one Armagh player stepped over the line. The rest of it is simply hand wringing and faux outrage from people with an anti Armagh agenda.

I think there is a lot of truth to what he said actually. A team that is consistently getting into scrapes has a culture of it in the camp. Where else does a culture like  this come from? Even McGeeneys very poor interview afterwards showed the culture and mentality.

There seems to be something alright.

I mean that's 3 serious incidents like this in a short space of time - same type.

Obviously they are either coached in it or not learning from the previous incidents.

The key question is, which is it?
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: J70 on June 27, 2022, 12:37:57 PM
So there you are now. Some thoughts.

It was fantastic entertainment.
Rian O'Neill is a serious player. What a huge performance. Great score at the end but he was everywhere. But he is all Armagh have. A lot of the rest of them are limited players.
The sending off was a funny one. Initally I thought it very harsh, felt a yellow was enough but looking at it again last night I can see why Coldrick gave it.
Galway are a good team. A lot of Armagh ppl felt that it was only a matter of turning up. Had heard a lot of stories of Armagh fans getting carried away. Galway didn't get caught in the hype and after they settled they went about their business with great efficiency. They did shite the togs. They need to learn how to lose games out.

The row was the row and yer man made a bollocks of himself. Everyone will get off no matter what suspensions the GAA throw at them. Coldrick made a balls of it. Contributing to a melee is the referees get out of jail card. But this is a problem of the GAAs making. They have let Armagh off all year and they will continue to behave this way. Dublin and Kerry also got let off similarly.

If the GAA are serious about dealing with the issue they need to address the mess that is the rulebook. A referees report must be sacrosanct. No reds overturned ever. No matter what. If the ref gets it wrong, he gets it wrong. Tough. Use only video to retrospectively ban for serious foul play missed by the referee. If he deals with it, then that's the matter closed. No appeals on technicalities because the report wasn't submitted in 4 different versions of Irish or this nonsense.
So Coldrick made a balls of it but the refs report must be sacrosanct. If youíre winding at least donít make it so obvious. Sean Kelly doesnít deserve to miss an all ireland semi final. Thought the ref was woeful all day tbh.

I'm not winding. If Coldrick thought he had any power he'd have lined 15 from each side. The rulebook is a mess and then by extension so was his handling of the row.
I was kind of on your side but you know what you're proving everyone's point. Armagh can do no wrong. It's their responsibility. There is a clear Armagh directive, one in all in. Can't send us all off boys. They all pumped up out of their minds like McGeeney was when he played.

Armagh are playing with the big boys now and need to realise that every single incident will be poured over. Tyrone live with this daily.

Tyrone haven't lived with it much this year anyway, they were long gone before the championship had even begun in earnest.

Sean Kelly will get off on appeal because looking at the replay he done nothing to warrant a red card. The Galway player that swung a punch at Kelly should get banned and after that it was all argy bargy stuff with very little actual foul play. But the media will make a big deal of it as usual and big bad Armagh will probably get the blame.

Jesus Christ. A person could have lost his sight.
If Armagh owned up here ppl would have more sympathy.
Donít be such a drama queen. Goes without saying no one is defending the gouging. Other than that? Just pushing and shoving even Sean Cavanagh said nothing wrong with it.

Its a pox on our game. Cowardly, sordid phenomenon.

And its about time the GAA got serious about dealing with it.

But as usual most of those involved will get off scott free and it will keep happening.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: marty34 on June 27, 2022, 12:38:47 PM
So there you are now. Some thoughts.

It was fantastic entertainment.
Rian O'Neill is a serious player. What a huge performance. Great score at the end but he was everywhere. But he is all Armagh have. A lot of the rest of them are limited players.
The sending off was a funny one. Initally I thought it very harsh, felt a yellow was enough but looking at it again last night I can see why Coldrick gave it.
Galway are a good team. A lot of Armagh ppl felt that it was only a matter of turning up. Had heard a lot of stories of Armagh fans getting carried away. Galway didn't get caught in the hype and after they settled they went about their business with great efficiency. They did shite the togs. They need to learn how to lose games out.

The row was the row and yer man made a bollocks of himself. Everyone will get off no matter what suspensions the GAA throw at them. Coldrick made a balls of it. Contributing to a melee is the referees get out of jail card. But this is a problem of the GAAs making. They have let Armagh off all year and they will continue to behave this way. Dublin and Kerry also got let off similarly.

If the GAA are serious about dealing with the issue they need to address the mess that is the rulebook. A referees report must be sacrosanct. No reds overturned ever. No matter what. If the ref gets it wrong, he gets it wrong. Tough. Use only video to retrospectively ban for serious foul play missed by the referee. If he deals with it, then that's the matter closed. No appeals on technicalities because the report wasn't submitted in 4 different versions of Irish or this nonsense.
So Coldrick made a balls of it but the refs report must be sacrosanct. If youíre winding at least donít make it so obvious. Sean Kelly doesnít deserve to miss an all ireland semi final. Thought the ref was woeful all day tbh.

I'm not winding. If Coldrick thought he had any power he'd have lined 15 from each side. The rulebook is a mess and then by extension so was his handling of the row.
I was kind of on your side but you know what you're proving everyone's point. Armagh can do no wrong. It's their responsibility. There is a clear Armagh directive, one in all in. Can't send us all off boys. They all pumped up out of their minds like McGeeney was when he played.

Armagh are playing with the big boys now and need to realise that every single incident will be poured over. Tyrone live with this daily.

Tyrone haven't lived with it much this year anyway, they were long gone before the championship had even begun in earnest.

Sean Kelly will get off on appeal because looking at the replay he done nothing to warrant a red card. The Galway player that swung a punch at Kelly should get banned and after that it was all argy bargy stuff with very little actual foul play. But the media will make a big deal of it as usual and big bad Armagh will probably get the blame.

Jesus Christ. A person could have lost his sight.
If Armagh owned up here ppl would have more sympathy.
Plenty of Armagh people calling out the gouging, not so many others calling Comer out for starting it. It is unsightly and the GAA needs to do more to stop it.

What did Comer do?
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Eire90 on June 27, 2022, 12:40:19 PM
but most of them wll never enter a boxing ring or mma cage
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: trailer on June 27, 2022, 12:41:14 PM
Its all in the coaching and team culture built up over a number of years. If anyone thinks that McKLeever and McGeeneys 'style' isnt all over that team then they need their heads read.
Monkey see monkey do.
Its premeditated not to ever actually strike. Becasue thats a sending off offence. So lads, no striking whatever you do.
But make sure you grapple, wrestle, grab, twist and hold onto him like your life depends on it and dont ever back down or let go first. Thats a sign of weakness and we cant have that, because after all, we're all big men and we like to flex how big we are.

Whilst there is alot to admire about Armagh's journey and football theyve played, they still get involved too much, indulge in thuggish shite and foul too easily. Their obsession with chest beating macho bull shit and insistence in turning every game into a dick-measuring contest was always gonna bite them at some stage.
Theyve lost this particular dick-measuring contest and its gonna hurt for a while.

Ridiculous to blame the manager and the defensive coach for an incident that happened on the pitch simply because they were tough players when they played themselves. The players on the pitch take responsibility for their own actions and one Armagh player stepped over the line. The rest of it is simply hand wringing and faux outrage from people with an anti Armagh agenda.

I think there is a lot of truth to what he said actually. A team that is consistently getting into scrapes has a culture of it in the camp. Where else does a culture like  this come from? Even McGeeneys very poor interview afterwards showed the culture and mentality.

There is a culture of rule and law breaking in Armagh. No respect for authority or law and order. Bandit country.

Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: imtommygunn on June 27, 2022, 12:41:41 PM
I originally thought Comer started it but seems James Morgan was shunting him and that provoked him. Not sure how accurate that is?
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: full moon on June 27, 2022, 12:43:42 PM
The brawl really didn't help Armagh this time, the momentum was all with them, it felt like there was a long delay from normal time to extra time starting to deal with the brawl.

Credit to both teams though
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: trailer on June 27, 2022, 12:44:35 PM
So there you are now. Some thoughts.

It was fantastic entertainment.
Rian O'Neill is a serious player. What a huge performance. Great score at the end but he was everywhere. But he is all Armagh have. A lot of the rest of them are limited players.
The sending off was a funny one. Initally I thought it very harsh, felt a yellow was enough but looking at it again last night I can see why Coldrick gave it.
Galway are a good team. A lot of Armagh ppl felt that it was only a matter of turning up. Had heard a lot of stories of Armagh fans getting carried away. Galway didn't get caught in the hype and after they settled they went about their business with great efficiency. They did shite the togs. They need to learn how to lose games out.

The row was the row and yer man made a bollocks of himself. Everyone will get off no matter what suspensions the GAA throw at them. Coldrick made a balls of it. Contributing to a melee is the referees get out of jail card. But this is a problem of the GAAs making. They have let Armagh off all year and they will continue to behave this way. Dublin and Kerry also got let off similarly.

If the GAA are serious about dealing with the issue they need to address the mess that is the rulebook. A referees report must be sacrosanct. No reds overturned ever. No matter what. If the ref gets it wrong, he gets it wrong. Tough. Use only video to retrospectively ban for serious foul play missed by the referee. If he deals with it, then that's the matter closed. No appeals on technicalities because the report wasn't submitted in 4 different versions of Irish or this nonsense.
So Coldrick made a balls of it but the refs report must be sacrosanct. If youíre winding at least donít make it so obvious. Sean Kelly doesnít deserve to miss an all ireland semi final. Thought the ref was woeful all day tbh.

I'm not winding. If Coldrick thought he had any power he'd have lined 15 from each side. The rulebook is a mess and then by extension so was his handling of the row.
I was kind of on your side but you know what you're proving everyone's point. Armagh can do no wrong. It's their responsibility. There is a clear Armagh directive, one in all in. Can't send us all off boys. They all pumped up out of their minds like McGeeney was when he played.

Armagh are playing with the big boys now and need to realise that every single incident will be poured over. Tyrone live with this daily.

Tyrone haven't lived with it much this year anyway, they were long gone before the championship had even begun in earnest.

Sean Kelly will get off on appeal because looking at the replay he done nothing to warrant a red card. The Galway player that swung a punch at Kelly should get banned and after that it was all argy bargy stuff with very little actual foul play. But the media will make a big deal of it as usual and big bad Armagh will probably get the blame.

Jesus Christ. A person could have lost his sight.
If Armagh owned up here ppl would have more sympathy.
Plenty of Armagh people calling out the gouging, not so many others calling Comer out for starting it. It is unsightly and the GAA needs to do more to stop it.

What did Comer do?

James Morgan started it. He was shoving Comer the whole way to the tunnel.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: JoG2 on June 27, 2022, 12:46:21 PM
So there you are now. Some thoughts.

It was fantastic entertainment.
Rian O'Neill is a serious player. What a huge performance. Great score at the end but he was everywhere. But he is all Armagh have. A lot of the rest of them are limited players.
The sending off was a funny one. Initally I thought it very harsh, felt a yellow was enough but looking at it again last night I can see why Coldrick gave it.
Galway are a good team. A lot of Armagh ppl felt that it was only a matter of turning up. Had heard a lot of stories of Armagh fans getting carried away. Galway didn't get caught in the hype and after they settled they went about their business with great efficiency. They did shite the togs. They need to learn how to lose games out.

The row was the row and yer man made a bollocks of himself. Everyone will get off no matter what suspensions the GAA throw at them. Coldrick made a balls of it. Contributing to a melee is the referees get out of jail card. But this is a problem of the GAAs making. They have let Armagh off all year and they will continue to behave this way. Dublin and Kerry also got let off similarly.

If the GAA are serious about dealing with the issue they need to address the mess that is the rulebook. A referees report must be sacrosanct. No reds overturned ever. No matter what. If the ref gets it wrong, he gets it wrong. Tough. Use only video to retrospectively ban for serious foul play missed by the referee. If he deals with it, then that's the matter closed. No appeals on technicalities because the report wasn't submitted in 4 different versions of Irish or this nonsense.
So Coldrick made a balls of it but the refs report must be sacrosanct. If youíre winding at least donít make it so obvious. Sean Kelly doesnít deserve to miss an all ireland semi final. Thought the ref was woeful all day tbh.

I'm not winding. If Coldrick thought he had any power he'd have lined 15 from each side. The rulebook is a mess and then by extension so was his handling of the row.
I was kind of on your side but you know what you're proving everyone's point. Armagh can do no wrong. It's their responsibility. There is a clear Armagh directive, one in all in. Can't send us all off boys. They all pumped up out of their minds like McGeeney was when he played.

Armagh are playing with the big boys now and need to realise that every single incident will be poured over. Tyrone live with this daily.

Tyrone haven't lived with it much this year anyway, they were long gone before the championship had even begun in earnest.

Sean Kelly will get off on appeal because looking at the replay he done nothing to warrant a red card. The Galway player that swung a punch at Kelly should get banned and after that it was all argy bargy stuff with very little actual foul play. But the media will make a big deal of it as usual and big bad Armagh will probably get the blame.

Jesus Christ. A person could have lost his sight.
If Armagh owned up here ppl would have more sympathy.
Plenty of Armagh people calling out the gouging, not so many others calling Comer out for starting it. It is unsightly and the GAA needs to do more to stop it.

How did Comer start it? Did he organise a reck of men to come piling in whilst having a disagreement with Morgan?
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Brick Tamlin on June 27, 2022, 12:46:44 PM
Its all in the coaching and team culture built up over a number of years. If anyone thinks that McKLeever and McGeeneys 'style' isnt all over that team then they need their heads read.
Monkey see monkey do.
Its premeditated not to ever actually strike. Becasue thats a sending off offence. So lads, no striking whatever you do.
But make sure you grapple, wrestle, grab, twist and hold onto him like your life depends on it and dont ever back down or let go first. Thats a sign of weakness and we cant have that, because after all, we're all big men and we like to flex how big we are.

Whilst there is alot to admire about Armagh's journey and football theyve played, they still get involved too much, indulge in thuggish shite and foul too easily. Their obsession with chest beating macho bull shit and insistence in turning every game into a dick-measuring contest was always gonna bite them at some stage.
Theyve lost this particular dick-measuring contest and its gonna hurt for a while.
Iíve read some shite on here (mostly Tyrone and Derry people, ironically) chastising Armagh for yesterdays handbags. Iím not sure Armagh are coached to do anything specifically in terms of dark arts but the only criticism Iíll accept is that the management clearly havenít learned anything this year in terms of other teams riling them up.

Iíve asked it before but what exactly do Armagh, or any team for that matter, have to gain by starting a melee? There is literally nothing to be achieved from a premeditated melee.  Fair criticism of McGeeney/McKeever would be that their players fall for this shite too much: happened with Donegal, it happened with Tyrone and it happened again yesterday. TK deserves a hefty ban and if the powers that be make an example of him, so be it; moronic behaviour from him and something he shouldnít have involved himself with.

Youve asked so ill answer (even though id thought the answer pretty obvious).
Teams/players will engage in nonsense and start into other players (usually the star men) because if you can get a psychological advantage at all by putting your opponent off his game so much that he might lash out or take his eye off the ball or his own game, then its worthwhile and can help your own team that extra 1%. We all know it goes on and our games, rules and officials facilitate it. Its usually the inferior footballer, the technically weaker player who has to rely on starting shite with his opponent becasue he's simply not good enough to go toe-to-toe with his direct opponent.
Cant believe this needs explaining
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Armagh18 on June 27, 2022, 12:48:22 PM
So there you are now. Some thoughts.

It was fantastic entertainment.
Rian O'Neill is a serious player. What a huge performance. Great score at the end but he was everywhere. But he is all Armagh have. A lot of the rest of them are limited players.
The sending off was a funny one. Initally I thought it very harsh, felt a yellow was enough but looking at it again last night I can see why Coldrick gave it.
Galway are a good team. A lot of Armagh ppl felt that it was only a matter of turning up. Had heard a lot of stories of Armagh fans getting carried away. Galway didn't get caught in the hype and after they settled they went about their business with great efficiency. They did shite the togs. They need to learn how to lose games out.

The row was the row and yer man made a bollocks of himself. Everyone will get off no matter what suspensions the GAA throw at them. Coldrick made a balls of it. Contributing to a melee is the referees get out of jail card. But this is a problem of the GAAs making. They have let Armagh off all year and they will continue to behave this way. Dublin and Kerry also got let off similarly.

If the GAA are serious about dealing with the issue they need to address the mess that is the rulebook. A referees report must be sacrosanct. No reds overturned ever. No matter what. If the ref gets it wrong, he gets it wrong. Tough. Use only video to retrospectively ban for serious foul play missed by the referee. If he deals with it, then that's the matter closed. No appeals on technicalities because the report wasn't submitted in 4 different versions of Irish or this nonsense.
So Coldrick made a balls of it but the refs report must be sacrosanct. If youíre winding at least donít make it so obvious. Sean Kelly doesnít deserve to miss an all ireland semi final. Thought the ref was woeful all day tbh.

I'm not winding. If Coldrick thought he had any power he'd have lined 15 from each side. The rulebook is a mess and then by extension so was his handling of the row.
I was kind of on your side but you know what you're proving everyone's point. Armagh can do no wrong. It's their responsibility. There is a clear Armagh directive, one in all in. Can't send us all off boys. They all pumped up out of their minds like McGeeney was when he played.

Armagh are playing with the big boys now and need to realise that every single incident will be poured over. Tyrone live with this daily.

Tyrone haven't lived with it much this year anyway, they were long gone before the championship had even begun in earnest.

Sean Kelly will get off on appeal because looking at the replay he done nothing to warrant a red card. The Galway player that swung a punch at Kelly should get banned and after that it was all argy bargy stuff with very little actual foul play. But the media will make a big deal of it as usual and big bad Armagh will probably get the blame.
Genuinely hope he does get off-very unfair on him. Will Nugent and Gregís suspension carry to next year? They both deserve to get off too. 

Donít think youíll find too many people complaining if that lad gets off too.

Why Mc Cabe?

His was a deserved red.
A yellow at best imo. Split second off being a perfect tackle- if youíre getting red carded for that then may as well make it non contact
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Armagh18 on June 27, 2022, 12:50:26 PM
Its all in the coaching and team culture built up over a number of years. If anyone thinks that McKLeever and McGeeneys 'style' isnt all over that team then they need their heads read.
Monkey see monkey do.
Its premeditated not to ever actually strike. Becasue thats a sending off offence. So lads, no striking whatever you do.
But make sure you grapple, wrestle, grab, twist and hold onto him like your life depends on it and dont ever back down or let go first. Thats a sign of weakness and we cant have that, because after all, we're all big men and we like to flex how big we are.

Whilst there is alot to admire about Armagh's journey and football theyve played, they still get involved too much, indulge in thuggish shite and foul too easily. Their obsession with chest beating macho bull shit and insistence in turning every game into a dick-measuring contest was always gonna bite them at some stage.
Theyve lost this particular dick-measuring contest and its gonna hurt for a while.

Ridiculous to blame the manager and the defensive coach for an incident that happened on the pitch simply because they were tough players when they played themselves. The players on the pitch take responsibility for their own actions and one Armagh player stepped over the line. The rest of it is simply hand wringing and faux outrage from people with an anti Armagh agenda.

I think there is a lot of truth to what he said actually. A team that is consistently getting into scrapes has a culture of it in the camp. Where else does a culture like  this come from? Even McGeeneys very poor interview afterwards showed the culture and mentality.

There is a culture of rule and law breaking in Armagh. No respect for authority or law and order. Bandit country.
Proudly. And only place in Ireland the brits couldnít walk through if you want to go down that roadÖ
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: trailer on June 27, 2022, 12:51:05 PM
There is actually a case to be made for throwing Armagh out of next years Championship. Derrytresk got 5 years for similar behaviour. Albeit they are a Tyrone team and the GAA use the Tyrone rule book when it comes to disciplinary proceedings involving the county.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Dreadnought on June 27, 2022, 12:51:23 PM

We'll agree to disagree, in the world of finance the GAA will listen to the likes of Joyce and the public opinion on using penalties, with pressure being applied from sponsors and media. We seen the reality of the plan yesterday and I expect some head scratching in Croke Park this morning. There would have to be compromise and the Dublin Meath saga could never happen again but after such a high profile game yesterday the GAA will use it to make a slight change again imo.

The world of finance? The GAA are turning down lucrative replays here. For once, we can't throw the finance thing at them

😂.. no we can't to be fair but is it sustainable? My opinion like many is more about fairness on the players but when we think about it, the GAA are potentially throwing away over Ä1million, imagine a semi final goes the same way as yesterday. Media and sponsors would of loved another Armagh v Galway game in a packed stadium. I think decide on the day in the first match is crazy and when common sense takes over the authorities will all agree.

But we can't have it both ways, especially in these times. Are we expecting players and supporters of one of teh teams go out to Croke Park 3 weekends in a row now? We've known about this all year. A big game would always have these discussions, but we'll get used to it and move on
Happily. Cut ticket prices for a replay though.

Well of course you'd say that this morning. But it's not just price (and they used to cut replay prices alright). Just next weekend was meant to be off for players, and now we have some saying 3 weeks in a row is no issue, with the final 2 weeks after. Potentially 4 games in 5 weeks? Nah way...

Ah ffs catch yourself on, players would play a game every night of the week to get to an AI semi-final.

Of course they would. That's literally my point, but it wouldn't be fair on them. But it's not up to the GAA to flog them like that, they have to think on that stuff now. There's a reason we don't leave these decisions to the players. The right call was made with penalties seeing as we have a split season.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: APM on June 27, 2022, 12:52:05 PM
I think I'd like to see separate threads for those that want to analyse the match and those that want to analyse the row.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: armaghniac on June 27, 2022, 12:52:24 PM
The Armagh #2 ran after Comer and barged into him on the way to the tunnel.

Thats how the melee started

Two people jostling is not a melee.
Who next joined these two people? That is where the problem lies.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: marty34 on June 27, 2022, 12:53:13 PM
Its all in the coaching and team culture built up over a number of years. If anyone thinks that McKLeever and McGeeneys 'style' isnt all over that team then they need their heads read.
Monkey see monkey do.
Its premeditated not to ever actually strike. Becasue thats a sending off offence. So lads, no striking whatever you do.
But make sure you grapple, wrestle, grab, twist and hold onto him like your life depends on it and dont ever back down or let go first. Thats a sign of weakness and we cant have that, because after all, we're all big men and we like to flex how big we are.

Whilst there is alot to admire about Armagh's journey and football theyve played, they still get involved too much, indulge in thuggish shite and foul too easily. Their obsession with chest beating macho bull shit and insistence in turning every game into a dick-measuring contest was always gonna bite them at some stage.
Theyve lost this particular dick-measuring contest and its gonna hurt for a while.

Ridiculous to blame the manager and the defensive coach for an incident that happened on the pitch simply because they were tough players when they played themselves. The players on the pitch take responsibility for their own actions and one Armagh player stepped over the line. The rest of it is simply hand wringing and faux outrage from people with an anti Armagh agenda.

I think there is a lot of truth to what he said actually. A team that is consistently getting into scrapes has a culture of it in the camp. Where else does a culture like  this come from? Even McGeeneys very poor interview afterwards showed the culture and mentality.

There is a culture of rule and law breaking in Armagh. No respect for authority or law and order. Bandit country.

Bit harsh that.

There's great people in Armagh.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Armagh18 on June 27, 2022, 12:53:37 PM

We'll agree to disagree, in the world of finance the GAA will listen to the likes of Joyce and the public opinion on using penalties, with pressure being applied from sponsors and media. We seen the reality of the plan yesterday and I expect some head scratching in Croke Park this morning. There would have to be compromise and the Dublin Meath saga could never happen again but after such a high profile game yesterday the GAA will use it to make a slight change again imo.

The world of finance? The GAA are turning down lucrative replays here. For once, we can't throw the finance thing at them

😂.. no we can't to be fair but is it sustainable? My opinion like many is more about fairness on the players but when we think about it, the GAA are potentially throwing away over Ä1million, imagine a semi final goes the same way as yesterday. Media and sponsors would of loved another Armagh v Galway game in a packed stadium. I think decide on the day in the first match is crazy and when common sense takes over the authorities will all agree.

But we can't have it both ways, especially in these times. Are we expecting players and supporters of one of teh teams go out to Croke Park 3 weekends in a row now? We've known about this all year. A big game would always have these discussions, but we'll get used to it and move on
Happily. Cut ticket prices for a replay though.

Well of course you'd say that this morning. But it's not just price (and they used to cut replay prices alright). Just next weekend was meant to be off for players, and now we have some saying 3 weeks in a row is no issue, with the final 2 weeks after. Potentially 4 games in 5 weeks? Nah way...

Ah ffs catch yourself on, players would play a game every night of the week to get to an AI semi-final.

Of course they would. That's literally my point, but it wouldn't be fair on them. But it's not up to the GAA to flog them like that, they have to think on that stuff now. There's a reason we don't leave these decisions to the players. The right call was made with penalties seeing as we have a split season.
Ah in fairness at that level those lads could play 2 days in a row. Molloy from Galway played twice in one day for NUIG and Corofin Iím nearly sure once as well. A week is plenty of time to recover to be honest. I know itís a different level but Iíve seen club teams in Armagh play Sunday Wednesday Friday Sunday.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Brick Tamlin on June 27, 2022, 12:54:17 PM
Bollix. Its a red all day. duty of care to person you tackle.
If you go high as a player turns then you risk punishment.
Add in the fact that he had eyes on the player the whole time and made no attempt to follow the ball or intercept, as well as raise the arm.
Too loose and reckless.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: marty34 on June 27, 2022, 12:56:04 PM
So there you are now. Some thoughts.

It was fantastic entertainment.
Rian O'Neill is a serious player. What a huge performance. Great score at the end but he was everywhere. But he is all Armagh have. A lot of the rest of them are limited players.
The sending off was a funny one. Initally I thought it very harsh, felt a yellow was enough but looking at it again last night I can see why Coldrick gave it.
Galway are a good team. A lot of Armagh ppl felt that it was only a matter of turning up. Had heard a lot of stories of Armagh fans getting carried away. Galway didn't get caught in the hype and after they settled they went about their business with great efficiency. They did shite the togs. They need to learn how to lose games out.

The row was the row and yer man made a bollocks of himself. Everyone will get off no matter what suspensions the GAA throw at them. Coldrick made a balls of it. Contributing to a melee is the referees get out of jail card. But this is a problem of the GAAs making. They have let Armagh off all year and they will continue to behave this way. Dublin and Kerry also got let off similarly.

If the GAA are serious about dealing with the issue they need to address the mess that is the rulebook. A referees report must be sacrosanct. No reds overturned ever. No matter what. If the ref gets it wrong, he gets it wrong. Tough. Use only video to retrospectively ban for serious foul play missed by the referee. If he deals with it, then that's the matter closed. No appeals on technicalities because the report wasn't submitted in 4 different versions of Irish or this nonsense.
So Coldrick made a balls of it but the refs report must be sacrosanct. If youíre winding at least donít make it so obvious. Sean Kelly doesnít deserve to miss an all ireland semi final. Thought the ref was woeful all day tbh.

I'm not winding. If Coldrick thought he had any power he'd have lined 15 from each side. The rulebook is a mess and then by extension so was his handling of the row.
I was kind of on your side but you know what you're proving everyone's point. Armagh can do no wrong. It's their responsibility. There is a clear Armagh directive, one in all in. Can't send us all off boys. They all pumped up out of their minds like McGeeney was when he played.

Armagh are playing with the big boys now and need to realise that every single incident will be poured over. Tyrone live with this daily.

Tyrone haven't lived with it much this year anyway, they were long gone before the championship had even begun in earnest.

Sean Kelly will get off on appeal because looking at the replay he done nothing to warrant a red card. The Galway player that swung a punch at Kelly should get banned and after that it was all argy bargy stuff with very little actual foul play. But the media will make a big deal of it as usual and big bad Armagh will probably get the blame.

Jesus Christ. A person could have lost his sight.
If Armagh owned up here ppl would have more sympathy.
Plenty of Armagh people calling out the gouging, not so many others calling Comer out for starting it. It is unsightly and the GAA needs to do more to stop it.

What did Comer do?

James Morgan started it. He was shoving Comer the whole way to the tunnel.

Watched it again - the Armagh No. 3 was over goading Comer also.

First thing for the semi-finals in one team each in the Hogan and Cusack Stand changing rooms.

Put the photo bench in mid-field for the photographers.  :)
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Armagh18 on June 27, 2022, 12:56:43 PM
Bollix. Its a red all day. duty of care to person you tackle.
If you go high as a player turns then you risk punishment.
Add in the fact that he had eyes on the player the whole time and made no attempt to follow the ball or intercept, as well as raise the arm.
Too loose and reckless.
Tell me youíve never played football without telling me youíve never played football.

Anyway, didnít matter in the grand scheme of things
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Brick Tamlin on June 27, 2022, 12:57:57 PM
Instead of playing the man in this instance, maybe youll tell me where im wrong.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Dreadnought on June 27, 2022, 12:58:19 PM

We'll agree to disagree, in the world of finance the GAA will listen to the likes of Joyce and the public opinion on using penalties, with pressure being applied from sponsors and media. We seen the reality of the plan yesterday and I expect some head scratching in Croke Park this morning. There would have to be compromise and the Dublin Meath saga could never happen again but after such a high profile game yesterday the GAA will use it to make a slight change again imo.

The world of finance? The GAA are turning down lucrative replays here. For once, we can't throw the finance thing at them

😂.. no we can't to be fair but is it sustainable? My opinion like many is more about fairness on the players but when we think about it, the GAA are potentially throwing away over Ä1million, imagine a semi final goes the same way as yesterday. Media and sponsors would of loved another Armagh v Galway game in a packed stadium. I think decide on the day in the first match is crazy and when common sense takes over the authorities will all agree.

But we can't have it both ways, especially in these times. Are we expecting players and supporters of one of teh teams go out to Croke Park 3 weekends in a row now? We've known about this all year. A big game would always have these discussions, but we'll get used to it and move on
Happily. Cut ticket prices for a replay though.

Well of course you'd say that this morning. But it's not just price (and they used to cut replay prices alright). Just next weekend was meant to be off for players, and now we have some saying 3 weeks in a row is no issue, with the final 2 weeks after. Potentially 4 games in 5 weeks? Nah way...

Ah ffs catch yourself on, players would play a game every night of the week to get to an AI semi-final.

Of course they would. That's literally my point, but it wouldn't be fair on them. But it's not up to the GAA to flog them like that, they have to think on that stuff now. There's a reason we don't leave these decisions to the players. The right call was made with penalties seeing as we have a split season.
Ah in fairness at that level those lads could play 2 days in a row. Molloy from Galway played twice in one day for NUIG and Corofin Iím nearly sure once as well. A week is plenty of time to recover to be honest. I know itís a different level but Iíve seen club teams in Armagh play Sunday Wednesday Friday Sunday.

And we see players like Clifford being bollixed as he was made play 2 games in one day when the Sigerson was on. He's only now coming back from injuries. No sports scientist on the planet would allow 2 high intensity games in 2 days. They're amateurs, they need recovery. What is to be gained from flogging them?
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: johnnycool on June 27, 2022, 01:00:02 PM
The brawl really didn't help Armagh this time, the momentum was all with them, it felt like there was a long delay from normal time to extra time starting to deal with the brawl.

Credit to both teams though

Hugely understated fact that.

Armagh were on the crest of a wave, pulling back what looked like an unsurmountable Galway lead. Galway defence were at 6's and 7's.

If you were from Armagh you'd have wanted extra time to start right away, rather than the protracted delay which gave the Galway lads a chance to regain their focus.

Momentum is key, Armagh had it at the final whistle but went mad at a nothing coming together between Comer and the fullback, subs and extended panel need a boot up the hole.

As for McGeeney, I wouldn't expect anything less from him in defending his players in public but behind the scenes he needs to be more measured and decisive in their discipline.
Next year everyone and their dog will be onto them and they need to be squeaky clean.

Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: marty34 on June 27, 2022, 01:01:02 PM
So there you are now. Some thoughts.

It was fantastic entertainment.
Rian O'Neill is a serious player. What a huge performance. Great score at the end but he was everywhere. But he is all Armagh have. A lot of the rest of them are limited players.
The sending off was a funny one. Initally I thought it very harsh, felt a yellow was enough but looking at it again last night I can see why Coldrick gave it.
Galway are a good team. A lot of Armagh ppl felt that it was only a matter of turning up. Had heard a lot of stories of Armagh fans getting carried away. Galway didn't get caught in the hype and after they settled they went about their business with great efficiency. They did shite the togs. They need to learn how to lose games out.

The row was the row and yer man made a bollocks of himself. Everyone will get off no matter what suspensions the GAA throw at them. Coldrick made a balls of it. Contributing to a melee is the referees get out of jail card. But this is a problem of the GAAs making. They have let Armagh off all year and they will continue to behave this way. Dublin and Kerry also got let off similarly.

If the GAA are serious about dealing with the issue they need to address the mess that is the rulebook. A referees report must be sacrosanct. No reds overturned ever. No matter what. If the ref gets it wrong, he gets it wrong. Tough. Use only video to retrospectively ban for serious foul play missed by the referee. If he deals with it, then that's the matter closed. No appeals on technicalities because the report wasn't submitted in 4 different versions of Irish or this nonsense.
So Coldrick made a balls of it but the refs report must be sacrosanct. If youíre winding at least donít make it so obvious. Sean Kelly doesnít deserve to miss an all ireland semi final. Thought the ref was woeful all day tbh.

I'm not winding. If Coldrick thought he had any power he'd have lined 15 from each side. The rulebook is a mess and then by extension so was his handling of the row.
I was kind of on your side but you know what you're proving everyone's point. Armagh can do no wrong. It's their responsibility. There is a clear Armagh directive, one in all in. Can't send us all off boys. They all pumped up out of their minds like McGeeney was when he played.

Armagh are playing with the big boys now and need to realise that every single incident will be poured over. Tyrone live with this daily.

Tyrone haven't lived with it much this year anyway, they were long gone before the championship had even begun in earnest.

Sean Kelly will get off on appeal because looking at the replay he done nothing to warrant a red card. The Galway player that swung a punch at Kelly should get banned and after that it was all argy bargy stuff with very little actual foul play. But the media will make a big deal of it as usual and big bad Armagh will probably get the blame.
Genuinely hope he does get off-very unfair on him. Will Nugent and Gregís suspension carry to next year? They both deserve to get off too. 

Donít think youíll find too many people complaining if that lad gets off too.

Why Mc Cabe?

His was a deserved red.
A yellow at best imo. Split second off being a perfect tackle- if youíre getting red carded for that then may as well make it non contact

You must be the only person who thinks it's a yellow.

Dangerously high.

It doesn't matter if it's a second off or the intention was to go shoulder to shoulder.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Armagh18 on June 27, 2022, 01:04:50 PM

We'll agree to disagree, in the world of finance the GAA will listen to the likes of Joyce and the public opinion on using penalties, with pressure being applied from sponsors and media. We seen the reality of the plan yesterday and I expect some head scratching in Croke Park this morning. There would have to be compromise and the Dublin Meath saga could never happen again but after such a high profile game yesterday the GAA will use it to make a slight change again imo.

The world of finance? The GAA are turning down lucrative replays here. For once, we can't throw the finance thing at them

😂.. no we can't to be fair but is it sustainable? My opinion like many is more about fairness on the players but when we think about it, the GAA are potentially throwing away over Ä1million, imagine a semi final goes the same way as yesterday. Media and sponsors would of loved another Armagh v Galway game in a packed stadium. I think decide on the day in the first match is crazy and when common sense takes over the authorities will all agree.

But we can't have it both ways, especially in these times. Are we expecting players and supporters of one of teh teams go out to Croke Park 3 weekends in a row now? We've known about this all year. A big game would always have these discussions, but we'll get used to it and move on
Happily. Cut ticket prices for a replay though.

Well of course you'd say that this morning. But it's not just price (and they used to cut replay prices alright). Just next weekend was meant to be off for players, and now we have some saying 3 weeks in a row is no issue, with the final 2 weeks after. Potentially 4 games in 5 weeks? Nah way...

Ah ffs catch yourself on, players would play a game every night of the week to get to an AI semi-final.

Of course they would. That's literally my point, but it wouldn't be fair on them. But it's not up to the GAA to flog them like that, they have to think on that stuff now. There's a reason we don't leave these decisions to the players. The right call was made with penalties seeing as we have a split season.
Ah in fairness at that level those lads could play 2 days in a row. Molloy from Galway played twice in one day for NUIG and Corofin Iím nearly sure once as well. A week is plenty of time to recover to be honest. I know itís a different level but Iíve seen club teams in Armagh play Sunday Wednesday Friday Sunday.

And we see players like Clifford being bollixed as he was made play 2 games in one day when the Sigerson was on. He's only now coming back from injuries. No sports scientist on the planet would allow 2 high intensity games in 2 days. They're amateurs, they need recovery. What is to be gained from flogging them?
a full week off would be fine I wasnít seriously suggesting that a replay happens today.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: imtommygunn on June 27, 2022, 01:05:41 PM
So there you are now. Some thoughts.

It was fantastic entertainment.
Rian O'Neill is a serious player. What a huge performance. Great score at the end but he was everywhere. But he is all Armagh have. A lot of the rest of them are limited players.
The sending off was a funny one. Initally I thought it very harsh, felt a yellow was enough but looking at it again last night I can see why Coldrick gave it.
Galway are a good team. A lot of Armagh ppl felt that it was only a matter of turning up. Had heard a lot of stories of Armagh fans getting carried away. Galway didn't get caught in the hype and after they settled they went about their business with great efficiency. They did shite the togs. They need to learn how to lose games out.

The row was the row and yer man made a bollocks of himself. Everyone will get off no matter what suspensions the GAA throw at them. Coldrick made a balls of it. Contributing to a melee is the referees get out of jail card. But this is a problem of the GAAs making. They have let Armagh off all year and they will continue to behave this way. Dublin and Kerry also got let off similarly.

If the GAA are serious about dealing with the issue they need to address the mess that is the rulebook. A referees report must be sacrosanct. No reds overturned ever. No matter what. If the ref gets it wrong, he gets it wrong. Tough. Use only video to retrospectively ban for serious foul play missed by the referee. If he deals with it, then that's the matter closed. No appeals on technicalities because the report wasn't submitted in 4 different versions of Irish or this nonsense.
So Coldrick made a balls of it but the refs report must be sacrosanct. If youíre winding at least donít make it so obvious. Sean Kelly doesnít deserve to miss an all ireland semi final. Thought the ref was woeful all day tbh.

I'm not winding. If Coldrick thought he had any power he'd have lined 15 from each side. The rulebook is a mess and then by extension so was his handling of the row.
I was kind of on your side but you know what you're proving everyone's point. Armagh can do no wrong. It's their responsibility. There is a clear Armagh directive, one in all in. Can't send us all off boys. They all pumped up out of their minds like McGeeney was when he played.

Armagh are playing with the big boys now and need to realise that every single incident will be poured over. Tyrone live with this daily.

Tyrone haven't lived with it much this year anyway, they were long gone before the championship had even begun in earnest.

Sean Kelly will get off on appeal because looking at the replay he done nothing to warrant a red card. The Galway player that swung a punch at Kelly should get banned and after that it was all argy bargy stuff with very little actual foul play. But the media will make a big deal of it as usual and big bad Armagh will probably get the blame.
Genuinely hope he does get off-very unfair on him. Will Nugent and Gregís suspension carry to next year? They both deserve to get off too. 

Donít think youíll find too many people complaining if that lad gets off too.

Why Mc Cabe?

His was a deserved red.
A yellow at best imo. Split second off being a perfect tackle- if youíre getting red carded for that then may as well make it non contact

You must be the only person who thinks it's a yellow.

Dangerously high.

It doesn't matter if it's a second off or the intention was to go shoulder to shoulder.

Loads of people thought that was only yellow.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Armagh18 on June 27, 2022, 01:09:39 PM
So there you are now. Some thoughts.

It was fantastic entertainment.
Rian O'Neill is a serious player. What a huge performance. Great score at the end but he was everywhere. But he is all Armagh have. A lot of the rest of them are limited players.
The sending off was a funny one. Initally I thought it very harsh, felt a yellow was enough but looking at it again last night I can see why Coldrick gave it.
Galway are a good team. A lot of Armagh ppl felt that it was only a matter of turning up. Had heard a lot of stories of Armagh fans getting carried away. Galway didn't get caught in the hype and after they settled they went about their business with great efficiency. They did shite the togs. They need to learn how to lose games out.

The row was the row and yer man made a bollocks of himself. Everyone will get off no matter what suspensions the GAA throw at them. Coldrick made a balls of it. Contributing to a melee is the referees get out of jail card. But this is a problem of the GAAs making. They have let Armagh off all year and they will continue to behave this way. Dublin and Kerry also got let off similarly.

If the GAA are serious about dealing with the issue they need to address the mess that is the rulebook. A referees report must be sacrosanct. No reds overturned ever. No matter what. If the ref gets it wrong, he gets it wrong. Tough. Use only video to retrospectively ban for serious foul play missed by the referee. If he deals with it, then that's the matter closed. No appeals on technicalities because the report wasn't submitted in 4 different versions of Irish or this nonsense.
So Coldrick made a balls of it but the refs report must be sacrosanct. If youíre winding at least donít make it so obvious. Sean Kelly doesnít deserve to miss an all ireland semi final. Thought the ref was woeful all day tbh.

I'm not winding. If Coldrick thought he had any power he'd have lined 15 from each side. The rulebook is a mess and then by extension so was his handling of the row.
I was kind of on your side but you know what you're proving everyone's point. Armagh can do no wrong. It's their responsibility. There is a clear Armagh directive, one in all in. Can't send us all off boys. They all pumped up out of their minds like McGeeney was when he played.

Armagh are playing with the big boys now and need to realise that every single incident will be poured over. Tyrone live with this daily.

Tyrone haven't lived with it much this year anyway, they were long gone before the championship had even begun in earnest.

Sean Kelly will get off on appeal because looking at the replay he done nothing to warrant a red card. The Galway player that swung a punch at Kelly should get banned and after that it was all argy bargy stuff with very little actual foul play. But the media will make a big deal of it as usual and big bad Armagh will probably get the blame.
Genuinely hope he does get off-very unfair on him. Will Nugent and Gregís suspension carry to next year? They both deserve to get off too. 

Donít think youíll find too many people complaining if that lad gets off too.

Why Mc Cabe?

His was a deserved red.
A yellow at best imo. Split second off being a perfect tackle- if youíre getting red carded for that then may as well make it non contact

You must be the only person who thinks it's a yellow.

Dangerously high.

It doesn't matter if it's a second off or the intention was to go shoulder to shoulder.
[/b] It should. Imo lads shouldnít be getting sent in the white heat of championship for mistimed challenges.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: marty34 on June 27, 2022, 01:10:55 PM
So there you are now. Some thoughts.

It was fantastic entertainment.
Rian O'Neill is a serious player. What a huge performance. Great score at the end but he was everywhere. But he is all Armagh have. A lot of the rest of them are limited players.
The sending off was a funny one. Initally I thought it very harsh, felt a yellow was enough but looking at it again last night I can see why Coldrick gave it.
Galway are a good team. A lot of Armagh ppl felt that it was only a matter of turning up. Had heard a lot of stories of Armagh fans getting carried away. Galway didn't get caught in the hype and after they settled they went about their business with great efficiency. They did shite the togs. They need to learn how to lose games out.

The row was the row and yer man made a bollocks of himself. Everyone will get off no matter what suspensions the GAA throw at them. Coldrick made a balls of it. Contributing to a melee is the referees get out of jail card. But this is a problem of the GAAs making. They have let Armagh off all year and they will continue to behave this way. Dublin and Kerry also got let off similarly.

If the GAA are serious about dealing with the issue they need to address the mess that is the rulebook. A referees report must be sacrosanct. No reds overturned ever. No matter what. If the ref gets it wrong, he gets it wrong. Tough. Use only video to retrospectively ban for serious foul play missed by the referee. If he deals with it, then that's the matter closed. No appeals on technicalities because the report wasn't submitted in 4 different versions of Irish or this nonsense.
So Coldrick made a balls of it but the refs report must be sacrosanct. If youíre winding at least donít make it so obvious. Sean Kelly doesnít deserve to miss an all ireland semi final. Thought the ref was woeful all day tbh.

I'm not winding. If Coldrick thought he had any power he'd have lined 15 from each side. The rulebook is a mess and then by extension so was his handling of the row.
I was kind of on your side but you know what you're proving everyone's point. Armagh can do no wrong. It's their responsibility. There is a clear Armagh directive, one in all in. Can't send us all off boys. They all pumped up out of their minds like McGeeney was when he played.

Armagh are playing with the big boys now and need to realise that every single incident will be poured over. Tyrone live with this daily.

Tyrone haven't lived with it much this year anyway, they were long gone before the championship had even begun in earnest.

Sean Kelly will get off on appeal because looking at the replay he done nothing to warrant a red card. The Galway player that swung a punch at Kelly should get banned and after that it was all argy bargy stuff with very little actual foul play. But the media will make a big deal of it as usual and big bad Armagh will probably get the blame.
Genuinely hope he does get off-very unfair on him. Will Nugent and Gregís suspension carry to next year? They both deserve to get off too. 

Donít think youíll find too many people complaining if that lad gets off too.

Why Mc Cabe?

His was a deserved red.
A yellow at best imo. Split second off being a perfect tackle- if youíre getting red carded for that then may as well make it non contact

You must be the only person who thinks it's a yellow.

Dangerously high.

It doesn't matter if it's a second off or the intention was to go shoulder to shoulder.
[/b] It should. Imo lads shouldnít be getting sent in the white heat of championship for mistimed challenges.

Lol.

Is this a joke?

Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: smort on June 27, 2022, 01:11:08 PM
So there you are now. Some thoughts.

It was fantastic entertainment.
Rian O'Neill is a serious player. What a huge performance. Great score at the end but he was everywhere. But he is all Armagh have. A lot of the rest of them are limited players.
The sending off was a funny one. Initally I thought it very harsh, felt a yellow was enough but looking at it again last night I can see why Coldrick gave it.
Galway are a good team. A lot of Armagh ppl felt that it was only a matter of turning up. Had heard a lot of stories of Armagh fans getting carried away. Galway didn't get caught in the hype and after they settled they went about their business with great efficiency. They did shite the togs. They need to learn how to lose games out.

The row was the row and yer man made a bollocks of himself. Everyone will get off no matter what suspensions the GAA throw at them. Coldrick made a balls of it. Contributing to a melee is the referees get out of jail card. But this is a problem of the GAAs making. They have let Armagh off all year and they will continue to behave this way. Dublin and Kerry also got let off similarly.

If the GAA are serious about dealing with the issue they need to address the mess that is the rulebook. A referees report must be sacrosanct. No reds overturned ever. No matter what. If the ref gets it wrong, he gets it wrong. Tough. Use only video to retrospectively ban for serious foul play missed by the referee. If he deals with it, then that's the matter closed. No appeals on technicalities because the report wasn't submitted in 4 different versions of Irish or this nonsense.
So Coldrick made a balls of it but the refs report must be sacrosanct. If youíre winding at least donít make it so obvious. Sean Kelly doesnít deserve to miss an all ireland semi final. Thought the ref was woeful all day tbh.

I'm not winding. If Coldrick thought he had any power he'd have lined 15 from each side. The rulebook is a mess and then by extension so was his handling of the row.
I was kind of on your side but you know what you're proving everyone's point. Armagh can do no wrong. It's their responsibility. There is a clear Armagh directive, one in all in. Can't send us all off boys. They all pumped up out of their minds like McGeeney was when he played.

Armagh are playing with the big boys now and need to realise that every single incident will be poured over. Tyrone live with this daily.

Tyrone haven't lived with it much this year anyway, they were long gone before the championship had even begun in earnest.

Sean Kelly will get off on appeal because looking at the replay he done nothing to warrant a red card. The Galway player that swung a punch at Kelly should get banned and after that it was all argy bargy stuff with very little actual foul play. But the media will make a big deal of it as usual and big bad Armagh will probably get the blame.
Genuinely hope he does get off-very unfair on him. Will Nugent and Gregís suspension carry to next year? They both deserve to get off too. 

Donít think youíll find too many people complaining if that lad gets off too.

Why Mc Cabe?

His was a deserved red.
A yellow at best imo. Split second off being a perfect tackle- if youíre getting red carded for that then may as well make it non contact

You must be the only person who thinks it's a yellow.

Dangerously high.

It doesn't matter if it's a second off or the intention was to go shoulder to shoulder.
[/b] It should. Imo lads shouldnít be getting sent in the white heat of championship for mistimed challenges.

They absolutely should
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: marty34 on June 27, 2022, 01:11:47 PM
So there you are now. Some thoughts.

It was fantastic entertainment.
Rian O'Neill is a serious player. What a huge performance. Great score at the end but he was everywhere. But he is all Armagh have. A lot of the rest of them are limited players.
The sending off was a funny one. Initally I thought it very harsh, felt a yellow was enough but looking at it again last night I can see why Coldrick gave it.
Galway are a good team. A lot of Armagh ppl felt that it was only a matter of turning up. Had heard a lot of stories of Armagh fans getting carried away. Galway didn't get caught in the hype and after they settled they went about their business with great efficiency. They did shite the togs. They need to learn how to lose games out.

The row was the row and yer man made a bollocks of himself. Everyone will get off no matter what suspensions the GAA throw at them. Coldrick made a balls of it. Contributing to a melee is the referees get out of jail card. But this is a problem of the GAAs making. They have let Armagh off all year and they will continue to behave this way. Dublin and Kerry also got let off similarly.

If the GAA are serious about dealing with the issue they need to address the mess that is the rulebook. A referees report must be sacrosanct. No reds overturned ever. No matter what. If the ref gets it wrong, he gets it wrong. Tough. Use only video to retrospectively ban for serious foul play missed by the referee. If he deals with it, then that's the matter closed. No appeals on technicalities because the report wasn't submitted in 4 different versions of Irish or this nonsense.
So Coldrick made a balls of it but the refs report must be sacrosanct. If youíre winding at least donít make it so obvious. Sean Kelly doesnít deserve to miss an all ireland semi final. Thought the ref was woeful all day tbh.

I'm not winding. If Coldrick thought he had any power he'd have lined 15 from each side. The rulebook is a mess and then by extension so was his handling of the row.
I was kind of on your side but you know what you're proving everyone's point. Armagh can do no wrong. It's their responsibility. There is a clear Armagh directive, one in all in. Can't send us all off boys. They all pumped up out of their minds like McGeeney was when he played.

Armagh are playing with the big boys now and need to realise that every single incident will be poured over. Tyrone live with this daily.

Tyrone haven't lived with it much this year anyway, they were long gone before the championship had even begun in earnest.

Sean Kelly will get off on appeal because looking at the replay he done nothing to warrant a red card. The Galway player that swung a punch at Kelly should get banned and after that it was all argy bargy stuff with very little actual foul play. But the media will make a big deal of it as usual and big bad Armagh will probably get the blame.
Genuinely hope he does get off-very unfair on him. Will Nugent and Gregís suspension carry to next year? They both deserve to get off too. 

Donít think youíll find too many people complaining if that lad gets off too.

Why Mc Cabe?

His was a deserved red.
A yellow at best imo. Split second off being a perfect tackle- if youíre getting red carded for that then may as well make it non contact

You must be the only person who thinks it's a yellow.

Dangerously high.

It doesn't matter if it's a second off or the intention was to go shoulder to shoulder.

Loads of Armagh people thought that was only yellow.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: imtommygunn on June 27, 2022, 01:16:08 PM
Nonsense
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Applesisapples on June 27, 2022, 01:21:22 PM
Theyve been at it before Donaghy arrived on the ticket.
Im not referring to the gouging because thats a separate thing thats unexplainable.
Open your eyes man. James Morgan and Greg McCabe are card magnets and dont help themselves or the team with their nonsense.
There are a few others who are a shoe-in for cards every game. Armagh are a betting man's dream when it comes to cards.
You are a bullshitter. Morgan has in the past been rash and card prone. Over the last 10 or 12 years Armagh have not been involved a lot of this stuff as you suggest. This year they have been involved in 3 instances which is too much, but this happening the length and breadth of the country at club and county level your allegation that Armagh are some how world leaders at it does not stack.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: tonto1888 on June 27, 2022, 01:21:35 PM
Forgot to mention Comer. I was giving out about him and his antics to my brother during the game. Fair enough they probably werenít that bad but they annoyed me. However, once Galway scored the winner and their players were all celebrating - nothing wrong with that - Comer went and shook the hands of every Armagh player. Speaks volumes about him. Fair play.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: J70 on June 27, 2022, 01:23:29 PM
So there you are now. Some thoughts.

It was fantastic entertainment.
Rian O'Neill is a serious player. What a huge performance. Great score at the end but he was everywhere. But he is all Armagh have. A lot of the rest of them are limited players.
The sending off was a funny one. Initally I thought it very harsh, felt a yellow was enough but looking at it again last night I can see why Coldrick gave it.
Galway are a good team. A lot of Armagh ppl felt that it was only a matter of turning up. Had heard a lot of stories of Armagh fans getting carried away. Galway didn't get caught in the hype and after they settled they went about their business with great efficiency. They did shite the togs. They need to learn how to lose games out.

The row was the row and yer man made a bollocks of himself. Everyone will get off no matter what suspensions the GAA throw at them. Coldrick made a balls of it. Contributing to a melee is the referees get out of jail card. But this is a problem of the GAAs making. They have let Armagh off all year and they will continue to behave this way. Dublin and Kerry also got let off similarly.

If the GAA are serious about dealing with the issue they need to address the mess that is the rulebook. A referees report must be sacrosanct. No reds overturned ever. No matter what. If the ref gets it wrong, he gets it wrong. Tough. Use only video to retrospectively ban for serious foul play missed by the referee. If he deals with it, then that's the matter closed. No appeals on technicalities because the report wasn't submitted in 4 different versions of Irish or this nonsense.
So Coldrick made a balls of it but the refs report must be sacrosanct. If youíre winding at least donít make it so obvious. Sean Kelly doesnít deserve to miss an all ireland semi final. Thought the ref was woeful all day tbh.

I'm not winding. If Coldrick thought he had any power he'd have lined 15 from each side. The rulebook is a mess and then by extension so was his handling of the row.
I was kind of on your side but you know what you're proving everyone's point. Armagh can do no wrong. It's their responsibility. There is a clear Armagh directive, one in all in. Can't send us all off boys. They all pumped up out of their minds like McGeeney was when he played.

Armagh are playing with the big boys now and need to realise that every single incident will be poured over. Tyrone live with this daily.

Tyrone haven't lived with it much this year anyway, they were long gone before the championship had even begun in earnest.

Sean Kelly will get off on appeal because looking at the replay he done nothing to warrant a red card. The Galway player that swung a punch at Kelly should get banned and after that it was all argy bargy stuff with very little actual foul play. But the media will make a big deal of it as usual and big bad Armagh will probably get the blame.
Genuinely hope he does get off-very unfair on him. Will Nugent and Gregís suspension carry to next year? They both deserve to get off too. 

Donít think youíll find too many people complaining if that lad gets off too.

Why Mc Cabe?

His was a deserved red.
A yellow at best imo. Split second off being a perfect tackle- if youíre getting red carded for that then may as well make it non contact

You must be the only person who thinks it's a yellow.

Dangerously high.

It doesn't matter if it's a second off or the intention was to go shoulder to shoulder.
[/b] It should. Imo lads shouldnít be getting sent in the white heat of championship for mistimed challenges.

When it endangers their opponent they should.

A dangerous, reckless challenge should always be a red card, regardless of whether it was intended or not.

If you're going to shoulder charge, the responsibility is on you to get it right. If you can't do it safely within the rules, you can have no complaints about being punished. Two men running parallel for a loose ball is fair game. Coming in from the side to horse a man out of it shoulder to shoulder is fair game. Launching yourself at a lad who is twisting and turning is asking for trouble for both yourself and him.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: seafoid on June 27, 2022, 01:25:07 PM
50 pages. It's a long time since Galway footballers got such attention.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: illdecide on June 27, 2022, 01:26:48 PM
My take on the game...

Thought it was a good game and def worth the entry fee, the Armagh fans were great and made plenty of noise contributing to the atmosphere. after the first 15 mins or so Armagh chased it the whole game and if we're all honest it was Galway's to throw away (which they almost done). The sending off from the seat inside the stadium felt harsh at the time but seeing it back last night can't argue too much with it. On reflection now the dust has settled Galway deserved their win and the very best of luck to them in the Semi Final. Armagh put that much into chasing the game and some of the subs used in Extra Time they had little in reserve and TBH I thought Galway would have put us to the sword in ET but that was not the case, both teams have to be applauded for their efforts and the contribution to a great day out.

Back to the drawing board again now for Armagh but I think we all knew this was a tough game that could have went either way and that certainly was the case...Onwards and upwards (hopefully). Good luck again Galway. As for the incident at the end of the normal time match...Don't know the lad but i'm sure he'll get a hefty suspension and being out long term with an injury it prob won't impact him too much but i'm guessing the trial by social media and the flak he'll take from this will far outweigh any GAA suspension he'll get. I know he's only a young lad and i'm not excusing what he done as it was disgraceful but i can only imagine he'll never do that again...(Here's hoping)
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Keyser soze on June 27, 2022, 01:28:50 PM
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We'll agree to disagree, in the world of finance the GAA will listen to the likes of Joyce and the public opinion on using penalties, with pressure being applied from sponsors and media. We seen the reality of the plan yesterday and I expect some head scratching in Croke Park this morning. There would have to be compromise and the Dublin Meath saga could never happen again but after such a high profile game yesterday the GAA will use it to make a slight change again imo.

The world of finance? The GAA are turning down lucrative replays here. For once, we can't throw the finance thing at them

😂.. no we can't to be fair but is it sustainable? My opinion like many is more about fairness on the players but when we think about it, the GAA are potentially throwing away over Ä1million, imagine a semi final goes the same way as yesterday. Media and sponsors would of loved another Armagh v Galway game in a packed stadium. I think decide on the day in the first match is crazy and when common sense takes over the authorities will all agree.

But we can't have it both ways, especially in these times. Are we expecting players and supporters of one of teh teams go out to Croke Park 3 weekends in a row now? We've known about this all year. A big game would always have these discussions, but we'll get used to it and move on
Happily. Cut ticket prices for a replay though.

Well of course you'd say that this morning. But it's not just price (and they used to cut replay prices alright). Just next weekend was meant to be off for players, and now we have some saying 3 weeks in a row is no issue, with the final 2 weeks after. Potentially 4 games in 5 weeks? Nah way...

Ah ffs catch yourself on, players would play a game every night of the week to get to an AI semi-final.

Of course they would. That's literally my point, but it wouldn't be fair on them. But it's not up to the GAA to flog them like that, they have to think on that stuff now. There's a reason we don't leave these decisions to the players. The right call was made with penalties seeing as we have a split season.
Ah in fairness at that level those lads could play 2 days in a row. Molloy from Galway played twice in one day for NUIG and Corofin Iím nearly sure once as well. A week is plenty of time to recover to be honest. I know itís a different level but Iíve seen club teams in Armagh play Sunday Wednesday Friday Sunday.

And we see players like Clifford being bollixed as he was made play 2 games in one day when the Sigerson was on. He's only now coming back from injuries. No sports scientist on the planet would allow 2 high intensity games in 2 days. They're amateurs, they need recovery. What is to be gained from flogging them?

That's is an entirely different matter as it was for 2 different teams which is fair enough.

You however are arguing about players having to play 3 weekends in a row as if that is some big deal. 

As Armagh18 just said to another poster 'tell me you never kicked a ball without telling me you never kicked a ball'.

Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Applesisapples on June 27, 2022, 01:29:51 PM
My take on the game...

Thought it was a good game and def worth the entry fee, the Armagh fans were great and made plenty of noise contributing to the atmosphere. after the first 15 mins or so Armagh chased it the whole game and if we're all honest it was Galway's to throw away (which they almost done). The sending off from the seat inside the stadium felt harsh at the time but seeing it back last night can't argue too much with it. On reflection now the dust has settled Galway deserved their win and the very best of luck to them in the Semi Final. Armagh put that much into chasing the game and some of the subs used in Extra Time they had little in reserve and TBH I thought Galway would have put us to the sword in ET but that was not the case, both teams have to be applauded for their efforts and the contribution to a great day out.

Back to the drawing board again now for Armagh but I think we all knew this was a tough game that could have went either way and that certainly was the case...Onwards and upwards (hopefully). Good luck again Galway. As for the incident at the end of the normal time match...Don't know the lad but i'm sure he'll get a hefty suspension and being out long term with an injury it prob won't impact him too much but i'm guessing the trial by social media and the flak he'll take from this will far outweigh any GAA suspension he'll get. I know he's only a young lad and i'm not excusing what he done as it was disgraceful but i can only imagine he'll never do that again...(Here's hoping)
A fair summation of the game.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: yellowcard on June 27, 2022, 01:33:25 PM
Forgot to mention Comer. I was giving out about him and his antics to my brother during the game. Fair enough they probably werenít that bad but they annoyed me. However, once Galway scored the winner and their players were all celebrating - nothing wrong with that - Comer went and shook the hands of every Armagh player. Speaks volumes about him. Fair play.

Noticed that myself and that's exactly the way it should be. As a competitor you do whatever it takes to win the match but when its over leave it on the pitch.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: JoeSoap on June 27, 2022, 01:34:39 PM
It's 100% a red card.

If I was McGeeney I'd kick that eye gouger off the panel for a year myself.

The rest was handbags and a load of nonsense as usual, it looks bad but all they need to do is have the players go in at separate times. Easy fix.

An amazing game that I can't believe Galway let slip in normal time, they were much the better side once they rode the Armagh wave in the first 20 minutes. Credit to Armagh's mental strength to come back but they needed cool heads then at full time, if they just got down the tunnel with no nonsense I think they'd have come out and blown Galway away.

Finnerty, Tierney and McDaid were sensational for Galway. Can't wait for that semi-final, it should be a cracker.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Brick Tamlin on June 27, 2022, 01:35:32 PM
Theyve been at it before Donaghy arrived on the ticket.
Im not referring to the gouging because thats a separate thing thats unexplainable.
Open your eyes man. James Morgan and Greg McCabe are card magnets and dont help themselves or the team with their nonsense.
There are a few others who are a shoe-in for cards every game. Armagh are a betting man's dream when it comes to cards.
You are a bullshitter. Morgan has in the past been rash and card prone. Over the last 10 or 12 years Armagh have not been involved a lot of this stuff as you suggest. This year they have been involved in 3 instances which is too much, but this happening the length and breadth of the country at club and county level your allegation that Armagh are some how world leaders at it does not stack.

So we're into personal insults now because you disagree strongly with an opinion.
Classy. Then again i shouldnt be surprised.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Dreadnought on June 27, 2022, 01:37:18 PM
S

We'll agree to disagree, in the world of finance the GAA will listen to the likes of Joyce and the public opinion on using penalties, with pressure being applied from sponsors and media. We seen the reality of the plan yesterday and I expect some head scratching in Croke Park this morning. There would have to be compromise and the Dublin Meath saga could never happen again but after such a high profile game yesterday the GAA will use it to make a slight change again imo.

The world of finance? The GAA are turning down lucrative replays here. For once, we can't throw the finance thing at them

😂.. no we can't to be fair but is it sustainable? My opinion like many is more about fairness on the players but when we think about it, the GAA are potentially throwing away over Ä1million, imagine a semi final goes the same way as yesterday. Media and sponsors would of loved another Armagh v Galway game in a packed stadium. I think decide on the day in the first match is crazy and when common sense takes over the authorities will all agree.

But we can't have it both ways, especially in these times. Are we expecting players and supporters of one of teh teams go out to Croke Park 3 weekends in a row now? We've known about this all year. A big game would always have these discussions, but we'll get used to it and move on
Happily. Cut ticket prices for a replay though.

Well of course you'd say that this morning. But it's not just price (and they used to cut replay prices alright). Just next weekend was meant to be off for players, and now we have some saying 3 weeks in a row is no issue, with the final 2 weeks after. Potentially 4 games in 5 weeks? Nah way...

Ah ffs catch yourself on, players would play a game every night of the week to get to an AI semi-final.

Of course they would. That's literally my point, but it wouldn't be fair on them. But it's not up to the GAA to flog them like that, they have to think on that stuff now. There's a reason we don't leave these decisions to the players. The right call was made with penalties seeing as we have a split season.
Ah in fairness at that level those lads could play 2 days in a row. Molloy from Galway played twice in one day for NUIG and Corofin Iím nearly sure once as well. A week is plenty of time to recover to be honest. I know itís a different level but Iíve seen club teams in Armagh play Sunday Wednesday Friday Sunday.

And we see players like Clifford being bollixed as he was made play 2 games in one day when the Sigerson was on. He's only now coming back from injuries. No sports scientist on the planet would allow 2 high intensity games in 2 days. They're amateurs, they need recovery. What is to be gained from flogging them?

That's is an entirely different matter as it was for 2 different teams which is fair enough.

You however are arguing about players having to play 3 weekends in a row as if that is some big deal. 

As Armagh18 just said to another poster 'tell me you never kicked a ball without telling me you never kicked a ball'.

It's not really. O'Connor played him in a pre season tournament rather than not risking him after he played Sigerson. No real need to go 3 weeks in a row of games the intensity of All Ireland QFs and then a SF. No need for it these days, and the calendar doesn't allow it now. I have played ball btw. A while ago to be fair, although still play club hurling.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Applesisapples on June 27, 2022, 01:40:37 PM
Theyve been at it before Donaghy arrived on the ticket.
Im not referring to the gouging because thats a separate thing thats unexplainable.
Open your eyes man. James Morgan and Greg McCabe are card magnets and dont help themselves or the team with their nonsense.
There are a few others who are a shoe-in for cards every game. Armagh are a betting man's dream when it comes to cards.
You are a bullshitter. Morgan has in the past been rash and card prone. Over the last 10 or 12 years Armagh have not been involved a lot of this stuff as you suggest. This year they have been involved in 3 instances which is too much, but this happening the length and breadth of the country at club and county level your allegation that Armagh are some how world leaders at it does not stack.

So we're into personal insults now because you disagree strongly with an opinion.
Classy. Then again i shouldnt be surprised.
Its not personal, its not an insult, you are bullshitting and labelling a whole county and its players as perennial thugs based on zero evidence. I don't know you so can only comment on your posts and not you personally.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: charlieTully on June 27, 2022, 01:40:45 PM
Theyve been at it before Donaghy arrived on the ticket.
Im not referring to the gouging because thats a separate thing thats unexplainable.
Open your eyes man. James Morgan and Greg McCabe are card magnets and dont help themselves or the team with their nonsense.
There are a few others who are a shoe-in for cards every game. Armagh are a betting man's dream when it comes to cards.
You are a bullshitter. Morgan has in the past been rash and card prone. Over the last 10 or 12 years Armagh have not been involved a lot of this stuff as you suggest. This year they have been involved in 3 instances which is too much, but this happening the length and breadth of the country at club and county level your allegation that Armagh are some how world leaders at it does not stack.

So we're into personal insults now because you disagree strongly with an opinion.
Classy. Then again i shouldnt be surprised.
 

Just enjoy thier loss Brick. Still buzzing.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Westside on June 27, 2022, 01:42:23 PM
McGeeney let himself down badly in the interview after the game. Turning three question on the journalist and asking him what he'd do if he was pushed. McGeeney enjoys his hard man reputation too much to really stamp out this sort of thing among his panel. What's this, 9 years and not even a final appearance in Championship?
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: general_lee on June 27, 2022, 01:47:33 PM
Theyve been at it before Donaghy arrived on the ticket.
Im not referring to the gouging because thats a separate thing thats unexplainable.
Open your eyes man. James Morgan and Greg McCabe are card magnets and dont help themselves or the team with their nonsense.
There are a few others who are a shoe-in for cards every game. Armagh are a betting man's dream when it comes to cards.
You are a bullshitter. Morgan has in the past been rash and card prone. Over the last 10 or 12 years Armagh have not been involved a lot of this stuff as you suggest. This year they have been involved in 3 instances which is too much, but this happening the length and breadth of the country at club and county level your allegation that Armagh are some how world leaders at it does not stack.

So we're into personal insults now because you disagree strongly with an opinion.
Classy. Then again i shouldnt be surprised.
 

Just enjoy thier loss Brick. Still buzzing.
Lol be a while before you lot get a run out at Croke park. Maybe one of your refs will you can all go and support him ;D
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Brick Tamlin on June 27, 2022, 01:47:59 PM
Theyve been at it before Donaghy arrived on the ticket.
Im not referring to the gouging because thats a separate thing thats unexplainable.
Open your eyes man. James Morgan and Greg McCabe are card magnets and dont help themselves or the team with their nonsense.
There are a few others who are a shoe-in for cards every game. Armagh are a betting man's dream when it comes to cards.
You are a bullshitter. Morgan has in the past been rash and card prone. Over the last 10 or 12 years Armagh have not been involved a lot of this stuff as you suggest. This year they have been involved in 3 instances which is too much, but this happening the length and breadth of the country at club and county level your allegation that Armagh are some how world leaders at it does not stack.

So we're into personal insults now because you disagree strongly with an opinion.
Classy. Then again i shouldnt be surprised.
Its not personal, you are bullshitting and labelling a whole county and its players as perennial thugs based on zero evidence.

You personally insulted me. Its black n white.
Where did i label a whole county and its players as perennial thugs. Those are your own words not mine. Be careful.
Theres plenty of evidence to suggest that Armagh have several players with issues when it comes to controlling aggression, breaking playing rules, getting themselves carded.

I actually think Armagh folk are a great bunch. Have had many a positive interaction with them on and off the pitch for last 30 years and count them as good friends.
Im actually a fan of the football they play. How could you not be.
Im not sure where all this hate and anger comes from today.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Keyser soze on June 27, 2022, 01:50:04 PM
I've played championship 3 times in a week at one stage in the past.  Unforgettable sequence of games and would have loved to have had the opportunity to do that every season. As would every other person involved when we chat about it.

Or maybe the adverse effect the traumatic experience of playing so many high intensity games has had on the oul mental health has distorted our reality

Any player would give their left nut to get playing 3 massive games in Croke Park 3 weeks in a row. Anybody that says different must be smoking ganga or otherwise off their f45860g rocker.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: general_lee on June 27, 2022, 01:51:08 PM
Its all in the coaching and team culture built up over a number of years. If anyone thinks that McKLeever and McGeeneys 'style' isnt all over that team then they need their heads read.
Monkey see monkey do.
Its premeditated not to ever actually strike. Becasue thats a sending off offence. So lads, no striking whatever you do.
But make sure you grapple, wrestle, grab, twist and hold onto him like your life depends on it and dont ever back down or let go first. Thats a sign of weakness and we cant have that, because after all, we're all big men and we like to flex how big we are.

Whilst there is alot to admire about Armagh's journey and football theyve played, they still get involved too much, indulge in thuggish shite and foul too easily. Their obsession with chest beating macho bull shit and insistence in turning every game into a dick-measuring contest was always gonna bite them at some stage.
Theyve lost this particular dick-measuring contest and its gonna hurt for a while.
Iíve read some shite on here (mostly Tyrone and Derry people, ironically) chastising Armagh for yesterdays handbags. Iím not sure Armagh are coached to do anything specifically in terms of dark arts but the only criticism Iíll accept is that the management clearly havenít learned anything this year in terms of other teams riling them up.

Iíve asked it before but what exactly do Armagh, or any team for that matter, have to gain by starting a melee? There is literally nothing to be achieved from a premeditated melee.  Fair criticism of McGeeney/McKeever would be that their players fall for this shite too much: happened with Donegal, it happened with Tyrone and it happened again yesterday. TK deserves a hefty ban and if the powers that be make an example of him, so be it; moronic behaviour from him and something he shouldnít have involved himself with.

What has this got to do with yesterday.

The Armagh #2 ran after Comer and barged into him on the way to the tunnel.

Thats how the melee started
No itís not, Comer went for James Morgan after something between him and Walsh, thatís how it started. Forker then got involved and straight away both teams went into full handbag mode
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 27, 2022, 01:58:29 PM
End of the day managers attitude is alot to blame especially McGeeney Attitude. Dublin were the masters of goading to Pat Kilroy came onboard and cut it out over night. Armagh been involved in 3 pile on this year. Bad one few yrs ago against Cavan, and the worst one was a U-21 game with Tyrone a few yrs bck. It doesn't happen in soccer/Rugby cause they issues punishments for such. And the general attitude is there's nothing wrong with it. No wonder children now aday grow up  with attitude of its someone else fault. And on the row, the initial instigator was Morgan not Comer, who shouldn't been on the field after blindsiding Walsh earlier.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: seafoid on June 27, 2022, 02:03:41 PM
15 minutes of highlights

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwPv66E0jMU
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: general_lee on June 27, 2022, 02:04:52 PM
Its all in the coaching and team culture built up over a number of years. If anyone thinks that McKLeever and McGeeneys 'style' isnt all over that team then they need their heads read.
Monkey see monkey do.
Its premeditated not to ever actually strike. Becasue thats a sending off offence. So lads, no striking whatever you do.
But make sure you grapple, wrestle, grab, twist and hold onto him like your life depends on it and dont ever back down or let go first. Thats a sign of weakness and we cant have that, because after all, we're all big men and we like to flex how big we are.

Whilst there is alot to admire about Armagh's journey and football theyve played, they still get involved too much, indulge in thuggish shite and foul too easily. Their obsession with chest beating macho bull shit and insistence in turning every game into a dick-measuring contest was always gonna bite them at some stage.
Theyve lost this particular dick-measuring contest and its gonna hurt for a while.
Iíve read some shite on here (mostly Tyrone and Derry people, ironically) chastising Armagh for yesterdays handbags. Iím not sure Armagh are coached to do anything specifically in terms of dark arts but the only criticism Iíll accept is that the management clearly havenít learned anything this year in terms of other teams riling them up.

Iíve asked it before but what exactly do Armagh, or any team for that matter, have to gain by starting a melee? There is literally nothing to be achieved from a premeditated melee.  Fair criticism of McGeeney/McKeever would be that their players fall for this shite too much: happened with Donegal, it happened with Tyrone and it happened again yesterday. TK deserves a hefty ban and if the powers that be make an example of him, so be it; moronic behaviour from him and something he shouldnít have involved himself with.

Youve asked so ill answer (even though id thought the answer pretty obvious).
Teams/players will engage in nonsense and start into other players (usually the star men) because if you can get a psychological advantage at all by putting your opponent off his game so much that he might lash out or take his eye off the ball or his own game, then its worthwhile and can help your own team that extra 1%. We all know it goes on and our games, rules and officials facilitate it. Its usually the inferior footballer, the technically weaker player who has to rely on starting shite with his opponent becasue he's simply not good enough to go toe-to-toe with his direct opponent.
Cant believe this needs explaining
I canít believe you actually think a team playing in Croke park would pre-meditate something like this with the whole of the country watching. Given how Armagh have (stupidly) been involved in shite like this before earlier in the year, with absolutely zero impact on the outcome of those respective games (if anything added hassle and distractions) itís astounding that you think that any team, let alone an intercounty team in an AI QF, would use such behaviour as a vehicle to psychologically gain some sort of advantage when the game is in the melting pot. Only a colossal moron would think there is anything to be gained from starting a melee.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: smort on June 27, 2022, 02:07:10 PM
Come off it general_lee, are you actually serious here? Must be a WUM
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: yellowcard on June 27, 2022, 02:07:29 PM
Theyve been at it before Donaghy arrived on the ticket.
Im not referring to the gouging because thats a separate thing thats unexplainable.
Open your eyes man. James Morgan and Greg McCabe are card magnets and dont help themselves or the team with their nonsense.
There are a few others who are a shoe-in for cards every game. Armagh are a betting man's dream when it comes to cards.
You are a bullshitter. Morgan has in the past been rash and card prone. Over the last 10 or 12 years Armagh have not been involved a lot of this stuff as you suggest. This year they have been involved in 3 instances which is too much, but this happening the length and breadth of the country at club and county level your allegation that Armagh are some how world leaders at it does not stack.

So we're into personal insults now because you disagree strongly with an opinion.
Classy. Then again i shouldnt be surprised.
 

Just enjoy thier loss Brick. Still buzzing.
Lol be a while before you lot get a run out at Croke park. Maybe one of your refs will you can all go and support him ;D

You know you're at rock bottom whenever you get your kicks out of other teams losing.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Applesisapples on June 27, 2022, 02:11:07 PM
Theyve been at it before Donaghy arrived on the ticket.
Im not referring to the gouging because thats a separate thing thats unexplainable.
Open your eyes man. James Morgan and Greg McCabe are card magnets and dont help themselves or the team with their nonsense.
There are a few others who are a shoe-in for cards every game. Armagh are a betting man's dream when it comes to cards.
You are a bullshitter. Morgan has in the past been rash and card prone. Over the last 10 or 12 years Armagh have not been involved a lot of this stuff as you suggest. This year they have been involved in 3 instances which is too much, but this happening the length and breadth of the country at club and county level your allegation that Armagh are some how world leaders at it does not stack.

So we're into personal insults now because you disagree strongly with an opinion.
Classy. Then again i shouldnt be surprised.
Its not personal, you are bullshitting and labelling a whole county and its players as perennial thugs based on zero evidence.

You personally insulted me. Its black n white.
Where did i label a whole county and its players as perennial thugs. Those are your own words not mine. Be careful.
Theres plenty of evidence to suggest that Armagh have several players with issues when it comes to controlling aggression, breaking playing rules, getting themselves carded.

I actually think Armagh folk are a great bunch. Have had many a positive interaction with them on and off the pitch for last 30 years and count them as good friends.
Im actually a fan of the football they play. How could you not be.
Im not sure where all this hate and anger comes from today.
No hate, no anger read my take on yesterday, but suggesting that Armagh were wholly to blame and have been at it for years is just errant nonsense. If you are insulted that I believe that you are bullshitting there is nothing I can do for that, just my opinion of your musings and nothing personal.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: general_lee on June 27, 2022, 02:12:36 PM
Come off it general_lee, are you actually serious here? Must be a WUM
Nah youíre right, Armagh are to blame for Comer (rightly or wrongly) going at James Morgan which was the spark that ignited the melee. They knew what they were at all along ::)
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: seafoid on June 27, 2022, 02:17:37 PM
Armagh and Derry brought a lot to this year's championship. Hopefully the progress can be maintained next year.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Armamike on June 27, 2022, 02:22:32 PM
There is actually a case to be made for throwing Armagh out of next years Championship. Derrytresk got 5 years for similar behaviour. Albeit they are a Tyrone team and the GAA use the Tyrone rule book when it comes to disciplinary proceedings involving the county.

Doesn't help matters when your supporters get stuck in as well!
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Taylor on June 27, 2022, 02:25:14 PM
Come off it general_lee, are you actually serious here? Must be a WUM
Nah youíre right, Armagh are to blame for Comer (rightly or wrongly) going at James Morgan which was the spark that ignited the melee. They knew what they were at all along ::)

Comer went for Morgan after Morgan had ran through the back of him. That is a fact
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: clarshack on June 27, 2022, 02:25:48 PM
There is actually a case to be made for throwing Armagh out of next years Championship. Derrytresk got 5 years for similar behaviour. Albeit they are a Tyrone team and the GAA use the Tyrone rule book when it comes to disciplinary proceedings involving the county.

There needs to be more punishment that's for sure as Armagh have got away with the previous 2 melees they've been involved in this year.
If they keep getting away with it they are going to keep doing it.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: trailer on June 27, 2022, 02:35:41 PM
Absolutely loving this thread. Armagh people losing their minds. Great stuff altogether. Watching them get beat, on penalties, in the rain. Priceless. Weekend probably cost them a fortune as well. Superb.



 
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Keyboard Warrior on June 27, 2022, 02:39:28 PM
End of the day managers attitude is alot to blame especially McGeeney Attitude. Dublin were the masters of goading to Pat Kilroy came onboard and cut it out over night. Armagh been involved in 3 pile on this year. Bad one few yrs ago against Cavan, and the worst one was a U-21 game with Tyrone a few yrs bck. It doesn't happen in soccer/Rugby cause they issues punishments for such. And the general attitude is there's nothing wrong with it. No wonder children now aday grow up  with attitude of its someone else fault. And on the row, the initial instigator was Morgan not Comer, who shouldn't been on the field after blindsiding Walsh earlier.

The "row" was mostly pushing and holding (with the obvious, much discussed, exception). This used to be known as Handbags. In non-professional rugby and soccer, these rows also happen.

As for your Helen Lovejoy "won't somebody please think of the children" line, that gave me a laugh.

Hopefully the CCCC don't loose the run of themselves due to wailing on twitter and Galway will be at full strength for the Semi-Final.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Ed Ricketts on June 27, 2022, 02:56:24 PM
Still feeling drained after that, so canít imagine what the players must feel like today.

Such an incredible rollercoaster of emotions for Armagh supporters over those two or three hours. In fact, the last four weeks or so have been a rollercoaster, from the doom and gloom in advance of the Tyrone game through to the colour and noise and expectation on Sunday. Such a shame, a disgrace really, that things ended with a penalty shootout. Itís unnatural, anti-climactic, perfunctory. It doesnít belong in the GAA - I hope the rule makers realise this before any other county is disenfranchised. Striking the ball from the ground is a fundamental skill in soccer, it is not a fundamental skill in Gaelic football. This is why penalty shootouts do not belong in the GAA.

The game in normal time was conventional enough. Armagh started well and then faded. Galway were the better team overall, and had they run out 4 or 5 point winners it would have been merited. They are a very good team that have been motoring well all year. I can see them taking care of Derry, and giving a good account of themselves in an AI final. Need to sort out that problem with high balls in and around their goals, though.

I thought I could see some heavy legs out there on the Armagh side, and itís maybe no coincidence that some of the older lads - Murnin, Forker, Grugan, - didnít make it to the end of extra time. Armagh have had a tougher road than Galway over the last month.

Galway were also more clinical, I think the wide count at the end of normal time was something like 8-3. Some of Armagh's shot selection was off at clutch moments - unfortunately this came back to haunt them at the death too. McCabeís red didnít help either - Galway hit four in a row after that and looked to have killed the game off. The red was harsh for me. Thereís no malice there, itís just a fractionally mistimed hit. Yellow wouldíve done and no one wouldíve complained.

Then that mad 8 or 9 minutes. First off, fair play to Coldrick for adding the time. Galway were at the fake head injury stuff all second half to kill time, so 8 minutes was the least that was justified. A stop clock is the solution to this messing. Both goals were scrappy, but theyíre the type of goals you get when you want them enough. OíNeillís free to tie it up was something else, but there was never a doubt heíd nail it.

Extra time is a blur to me. Iíll have to watch back when I have the stomach. I thought Armagh had it at two stages - after the third goal, and after Hallís point. It was always going to be tricky to hold on against an opponent like Galway, but maybe Armagh could have done one or two things differently and held out. McDaidís point to tie it up was exceptional, though.

The penalties are a nonsense and you couldnít hold it against either of the two lads that missed for Armagh. But if this team ever finds itself in the position again then Iíd hope lessons can be learnt from yesterday. GAA keepers are not at the same shot stopping standard as top level soccer keepers. Just hit the target with enough power and you usually score in Gaelic football. This is what Galway managed, but a couple of the Armagh penalties looked to try to be too precise, too close to the top corner.

The row was bad. And Armagh more than played their part in it. Thatís three in 11 games this year, Armagh canít keep crying that theyíre just being picked on. In fact, in interviews afterwards, McGeeney more or less said that the lads have been encouraged to get on like this. To not take a step back, to get under the skin of the big boys and let them know you mean business. I get that this cocky upstart thing is an energy that the team feeds off, but for me it begins to become counterproductive after a time. In the short term you lose players and you lose focus. Longer term there is a loss of reputation, which kills you slowly as you find refs gunning for you more and more regularly. Armagh need to clean themselves up.

Tiernan Kelly in particular let himself down, and Iím sure he knows that. He should be contrite, take whatever punishment comes his way, and quietly go about working his way back into the team. He still has a fantastic football career ahead of him. Itís difficult to make excuses for something like that, but I suppose he is young and the blood was up in the moment. It looked like one of those things that takes a second to happen, but that you regret for much, much longer. The witch hunt online and in the media is pathetic, though. Hysterical squeals for lifetime bans. A lot of sanctimonious gobshites that just live for whinging about things. Luckily, the storm will move on to a different target by the middle of the week - hopefully TK keeps his head clear of the noise in the meantime.

As an Armagh supporter Iím already looking forward to 2023. The league gave a hint of it, but itís the last three championship games that has confirmed it for me: weíre back knocking about the top table. Some serious work, and improvement, and momentum has come together over the last 18 months. Good young players have come through, and some stalwarts have elevated themselves to standards I didnít think they had in them. The continuation of the management isnít in any doubt, and hopefully Donaghy stays onboard too - the boys seem to feed off his enthusiasm.

I donít think any players walk away just yet, and thereís maybe two more years in the likes of Grugan, Campbell & Forker. I can see Turbitt starting more regularly, and return for Oisin OíNeill, Kelly, and Grimley. Itíll also be great for squad depth to have lads like Paddy Burns, Niall Rowland, and the Mackins back to full fitness. Boys like Woods and Kieran came in yesterday and kicked on, and thereís others like McQuillen, McConville, McCambridge, and Higgins still to really break through. The year will also stand to men who have just only got going in settled positions on the field - Rafferty, Og Burns, Conor OíNeill, Crealey & Duffy.

The talent of 20 years ago might not quite be there, but thereís still a very strong and healthy mix. Thereís also an energy and togetherness and spirit that has taken time to foster, and which could still take them a long way. The unnecessary stuff aside, there's a team there that plays great football with great heart. Football has been boring for a decade or more, it's good for the game to have teams like Armagh bringing a bit of colour and noise to Croke Park again.

Good luck to Galway and Derry the next day out. Would love to see either win Sam.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Brick Tamlin on June 27, 2022, 02:57:17 PM
Theyve been at it before Donaghy arrived on the ticket.
Im not referring to the gouging because thats a separate thing thats unexplainable.
Open your eyes man. James Morgan and Greg McCabe are card magnets and dont help themselves or the team with their nonsense.
There are a few others who are a shoe-in for cards every game. Armagh are a betting man's dream when it comes to cards.
You are a bullshitter. Morgan has in the past been rash and card prone. Over the last 10 or 12 years Armagh have not been involved a lot of this stuff as you suggest. This year they have been involved in 3 instances which is too much, but this happening the length and breadth of the country at club and county level your allegation that Armagh are some how world leaders at it does not stack.

So we're into personal insults now because you disagree strongly with an opinion.
Classy. Then again i shouldnt be surprised.
Its not personal, you are bullshitting and labelling a whole county and its players as perennial thugs based on zero evidence.

You personally insulted me. Its black n white.
Where did i label a whole county and its players as perennial thugs. Those are your own words not mine. Be careful.
Theres plenty of evidence to suggest that Armagh have several players with issues when it comes to controlling aggression, breaking playing rules, getting themselves carded.

I actually think Armagh folk are a great bunch. Have had many a positive interaction with them on and off the pitch for last 30 years and count them as good friends.
Im actually a fan of the football they play. How could you not be.
Im not sure where all this hate and anger comes from today.
No hate, no anger read my take on yesterday, but suggesting that Armagh were wholly to blame and have been at it for years is just errant nonsense. If you are insulted that I believe that you are bullshitting there is nothing I can do for that, just my opinion of your musings and nothing personal.

I accept your apology, now that youve calmed down a little.
Let me be clear in case i wasnt before. Armagh are not solely to blame for yesterdays melee. It takes 2 to tango. I dont think anyone is suggesting otherwise.
Also im not suggesting that Armagh went out to start a pre-meditated melee at all. In fact i agree with you, no team does that as far as im aware.

However, what i was suggesting that in general the lesser footballer will often engage in nonsense to try gain that little edge over his clearly superior footballing opponent. In some cases many lesser footballers will round on the clearly superior footballer as a group and show of strength etc. Often times when there is a culture of chest beating and machismo in a group of players it will result in fracas, melees, set-tos, skullduggery. Sometimes it manifests itself as a box to the gut, other times it might be wrestling and grappling (which Armagh strangely seem to love)
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: armaghniac on June 27, 2022, 02:58:51 PM
Come off it general_lee, are you actually serious here? Must be a WUM
Nah youíre right, Armagh are to blame for Comer (rightly or wrongly) going at James Morgan which was the spark that ignited the melee. They knew what they were at all along ::)

Comer went for Morgan after Morgan had ran through the back of him. That is a fact

Who did what here is almost moot. Who was the third man in?
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: 6th sam on June 27, 2022, 03:05:32 PM
As a neutral , (though Iíve no love for Armagh as our closest neighbours and rivals and wanted to see Galway win), I really admire what Armagh brought to the championship this year. Riain OíNeill and Soupy Campbell are both All star material. Galway as always showed flashes of flair . Maybe Iím wrong but I thought that Walsh disappointed overall , he didnít take the game to Armagh but was feigning injury and attempting to get cards all day. Comer was acting the hard man all day , and Tbf was more likely to be the instigator of the row than Morgan who was already on a yellow. Sean Kelly wonít be too happy with Comer and Walsh , Particularly if he misses out on the Derry game. Walsh was writhing about all day but made several miraculous recoveries. Remarkable to see him still standing at the end to take his penalty with such aplomb 😜.  The officials in the Derry game will presumably be wise to Comer and Walsh particularly. Though itís remarkable how RTE commentators , presenters and pundits werenít wise to them, given their scrutiny of Tyrone tactics over the years .
Rteís coverage and bias, is light years behind Skyís objective professionalism .
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: imtommygunn on June 27, 2022, 03:28:39 PM
I would agree with a lot of that. I would have preferred Armagh won but I do generally like Galway. Comer was wired in that game and I honestly thought he should have had red. Walsh while wasn't fantastic was subject to some not great treatment by Morgan so I wouldn't have his behaviour down as quite as bad as you would but still expected better from him both behaviour wise and taking the game to armagh wise.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: JoG2 on June 27, 2022, 03:29:01 PM
Its all in the coaching and team culture built up over a number of years. If anyone thinks that McKLeever and McGeeneys 'style' isnt all over that team then they need their heads read.
Monkey see monkey do.
Its premeditated not to ever actually strike. Becasue thats a sending off offence. So lads, no striking whatever you do.
But make sure you grapple, wrestle, grab, twist and hold onto him like your life depends on it and dont ever back down or let go first. Thats a sign of weakness and we cant have that, because after all, we're all big men and we like to flex how big we are.

Whilst there is alot to admire about Armagh's journey and football theyve played, they still get involved too much, indulge in thuggish shite and foul too easily. Their obsession with chest beating macho bull shit and insistence in turning every game into a dick-measuring contest was always gonna bite them at some stage.
Theyve lost this particular dick-measuring contest and its gonna hurt for a while.
Iíve read some shite on here (mostly Tyrone and Derry people, ironically) chastising Armagh for yesterdays handbags. Iím not sure Armagh are coached to do anything specifically in terms of dark arts but the only criticism Iíll accept is that the management clearly havenít learned anything this year in terms of other teams riling them up.

Iíve asked it before but what exactly do Armagh, or any team for that matter, have to gain by starting a melee? There is literally nothing to be achieved from a premeditated melee.  Fair criticism of McGeeney/McKeever would be that their players fall for this shite too much: happened with Donegal, it happened with Tyrone and it happened again yesterday. TK deserves a hefty ban and if the powers that be make an example of him, so be it; moronic behaviour from him and something he shouldnít have involved himself with.

What has this got to do with yesterday.

The Armagh #2 ran after Comer and barged into him on the way to the tunnel.

Thats how the melee started
No itís not, Comer went for James Morgan after something between him and Walsh, thatís how it started. Forker then got involved and straight away both teams went into full handbag mode

Melee starter
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: galwayman on June 27, 2022, 03:29:42 PM
I would agree with a lot of that. I would have preferred Armagh won but I do generally like Galway. Comer was wired in that game and I honestly thought he should have had red. Walsh while wasn't fantastic was subject to some not great treatment by Morgan so I wouldn't have his behaviour down as quite as bad as you would but still expected better from him both behaviour wise and taking the game to armagh wise.
On what basis should Comer have seen red?
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: imtommygunn on June 27, 2022, 03:32:11 PM
Start of extra time a tackle I think he struck to the face... It wasn't major but it was a strike.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: galwayman on June 27, 2022, 03:32:19 PM
As a neutral , (though Iíve no love for Armagh as our closest neighbours and rivals and wanted to see Galway win), I really admire what Armagh brought to the championship this year. Riain OíNeill and Soupy Campbell are both All star material. Galway as always showed flashes of flair . Maybe Iím wrong but I thought that Walsh disappointed overall , he didnít take the game to Armagh but was feigning injury and attempting to get cards all day. Comer was acting the hard man all day , and Tbf was more likely to be the instigator of the row than Morgan who was already on a yellow. Sean Kelly wonít be too happy with Comer and Walsh , Particularly if he misses out on the Derry game. Walsh was writhing about all day but made several miraculous recoveries. Remarkable to see him still standing at the end to take his penalty with such aplomb 😜.  The officials in the Derry game will presumably be wise to Comer and Walsh particularly. Though itís remarkable how RTE commentators , presenters and pundits werenít wise to them, given their scrutiny of Tyrone tactics over the years .
Rteís coverage and bias, is light years behind Skyís objective professionalism .
Were you at the game? Would be interesting to view a player cam of Morgan "marking" Walsh off the ball. Clear to see from the stands what was going on off the ball.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: galwayman on June 27, 2022, 03:33:19 PM
Start of extra time a tackle I think he struck to the face... It wasn't major but it was a strike.
Hmmm will have to watch it back on the tv - didn't notice it at the time live.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: general_lee on June 27, 2022, 03:38:20 PM
Its all in the coaching and team culture built up over a number of years. If anyone thinks that McKLeever and McGeeneys 'style' isnt all over that team then they need their heads read.
Monkey see monkey do.
Its premeditated not to ever actually strike. Becasue thats a sending off offence. So lads, no striking whatever you do.
But make sure you grapple, wrestle, grab, twist and hold onto him like your life depends on it and dont ever back down or let go first. Thats a sign of weakness and we cant have that, because after all, we're all big men and we like to flex how big we are.

Whilst there is alot to admire about Armagh's journey and football theyve played, they still get involved too much, indulge in thuggish shite and foul too easily. Their obsession with chest beating macho bull shit and insistence in turning every game into a dick-measuring contest was always gonna bite them at some stage.
Theyve lost this particular dick-measuring contest and its gonna hurt for a while.
Iíve read some shite on here (mostly Tyrone and Derry people, ironically) chastising Armagh for yesterdays handbags. Iím not sure Armagh are coached to do anything specifically in terms of dark arts but the only criticism Iíll accept is that the management clearly havenít learned anything this year in terms of other teams riling them up.

Iíve asked it before but what exactly do Armagh, or any team for that matter, have to gain by starting a melee? There is literally nothing to be achieved from a premeditated melee.  Fair criticism of McGeeney/McKeever would be that their players fall for this shite too much: happened with Donegal, it happened with Tyrone and it happened again yesterday. TK deserves a hefty ban and if the powers that be make an example of him, so be it; moronic behaviour from him and something he shouldnít have involved himself with.

What has this got to do with yesterday.

The Armagh #2 ran after Comer and barged into him on the way to the tunnel.

Thats how the melee started
No itís not, Comer went for James Morgan after something between him and Walsh, thatís how it started. Forker then got involved and straight away both teams went into full handbag mode

Melee starter
Walsh & Morgan 1&2, Comer no3
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: imtommygunn on June 27, 2022, 03:40:37 PM
Start of extra time a tackle I think he struck to the face... It wasn't major but it was a strike.
Hmmm will have to watch it back on the tv - didn't notice it at the time live.

Maybe I'm over egging it but I thought he struck. Probably would have been more of it so could have been just me but I did think he hit out.

Honestly to beat Derry I think you would need to keep his aggression in check.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: general_lee on June 27, 2022, 03:42:02 PM
As a neutral , (though Iíve no love for Armagh as our closest neighbours and rivals and wanted to see Galway win), I really admire what Armagh brought to the championship this year. Riain OíNeill and Soupy Campbell are both All star material. Galway as always showed flashes of flair . Maybe Iím wrong but I thought that Walsh disappointed overall , he didnít take the game to Armagh but was feigning injury and attempting to get cards all day. Comer was acting the hard man all day , and Tbf was more likely to be the instigator of the row than Morgan who was already on a yellow. Sean Kelly wonít be too happy with Comer and Walsh , Particularly if he misses out on the Derry game. Walsh was writhing about all day but made several miraculous recoveries. Remarkable to see him still standing at the end to take his penalty with such aplomb 😜.  The officials in the Derry game will presumably be wise to Comer and Walsh particularly. Though itís remarkable how RTE commentators , presenters and pundits werenít wise to them, given their scrutiny of Tyrone tactics over the years .
Rteís coverage and bias, is light years behind Skyís objective professionalism .
Thatís a very fair post
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 27, 2022, 03:53:58 PM
There has been some drivel written about the penalties in the past 24 hours, predominantly by middle-aged women on Facebook, unsurprisingly. Armagh were robbed due to having to kick penalties etc. even though Galway also had the operate in the same conditions.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: galwayman on June 27, 2022, 03:54:48 PM
Start of extra time a tackle I think he struck to the face... It wasn't major but it was a strike.
Hmmm will have to watch it back on the tv - didn't notice it at the time live.

Maybe I'm over egging it but I thought he struck. Probably would have been more of it so could have been just me but I did think he hit out.

Honestly to beat Derry I think you would need to keep his aggression in check.
Derry going to be extremely tough one way or another for sure.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: imtommygunn on June 27, 2022, 03:57:23 PM
I would have you as favourites but should be very interesting.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: maddog on June 27, 2022, 03:59:12 PM
galway 11/10 Derry evens. Nothing in it.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: seafoid on June 27, 2022, 04:01:28 PM
https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2022/0626/1306973-joyce-choice-of-penalties-by-the-gaa-is-disgraceful/


Speaking to RT… Sport after the game, Joyce had some sympathy for Armagh by the manner in which they exited the 2022 championship.
"It's a horrible way to lose it and that's not the fault of the Armagh players, it's the fault of the GAA and the condensed season," he said.
"My heart goes out to Armagh. Kieran McGeeney and the boys have put in a savage effort; they have been the form team and their supporters brought fantastic colour down here today. The roar when Rian O'Neill levelled the game in normal time was deafening
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: maddog on June 27, 2022, 04:06:45 PM
Gutted about yesterday but so glad to have seen the best football game this year. Well done galway a fine team and some serious players. Tierney at 11 and McDaid in the middle were immense for you. Thought Molloy had great game as well. I just watched the entire game back again as being there v TV is two very different perspectives. Of our own lads just a huge team effort. And while hard to watch players distraught at the end it shows the pride and passion is there and with wee rub of the green that team will go further. Anyone notice think it was either the 7th or 8th point for galway the pass was blatant throw ball or am i needing the optician again ? Not that it matters now just interesting that commentators never mentioned it. Maybe because it wasnt ?
Gonna be some battle between Derry and Galway
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: trailer on June 27, 2022, 04:08:05 PM
Taoiseach and Catherine Martin getting stuck into this now. We're only moments away from somebody in the Dail asking for the Army to sent in to steward games.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Dougal Maguire on June 27, 2022, 04:08:44 PM
Jesus the amount of bile on this thread is unreal. Some folk really need to take a look at themselves if a football match involving teams rather that their own makes them react like that. Iím glad though that Armaghís defeat has given the Down supporters such a buzz. Methinks, given the demise of their team, that they will be depending on things like this to give them any sort of buzz for a few years yet
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Armamike on June 27, 2022, 04:14:02 PM
Still feeling drained after that, so canít imagine what the players must feel like today.

Such an incredible rollercoaster of emotions for Armagh supporters over those two or three hours. In fact, the last four weeks or so have been a rollercoaster, from the doom and gloom in advance of the Tyrone game through to the colour and noise and expectation on Sunday. Such a shame, a disgrace really, that things ended with a penalty shootout. Itís unnatural, anti-climactic, perfunctory. It doesnít belong in the GAA - I hope the rule makers realise this before any other county is disenfranchised. Striking the ball from the ground is a fundamental skill in soccer, it is not a fundamental skill in Gaelic football. This is why penalty shootouts do not belong in the GAA.

The game in normal time was conventional enough. Armagh started well and then faded. Galway were the better team overall, and had they run out 4 or 5 point winners it would have been merited. They are a very good team that have been motoring well all year. I can see them taking care of Derry, and giving a good account of themselves in an AI final. Need to sort out that problem with high balls in and around their goals, though.

I thought I could see some heavy legs out there on the Armagh side, and itís maybe no coincidence that some of the older lads - Murnin, Forker, Grugan, - didnít make it to the end of extra time. Armagh have had a tougher road than Galway over the last month.

Galway were also more clinical, I think the wide count at the end of normal time was something like 8-3. Some of Armagh's shot selection was off at clutch moments - unfortunately this came back to haunt them at the death too. McCabeís red didnít help either - Galway hit four in a row after that and looked to have killed the game off. The red was harsh for me. Thereís no malice there, itís just a fractionally mistimed hit. Yellow wouldíve done and no one wouldíve complained.

Then that mad 8 or 9 minutes. First off, fair play to Coldrick for adding the time. Galway were at the fake head injury stuff all second half to kill time, so 8 minutes was the least that was justified. A stop clock is the solution to this messing. Both goals were scrappy, but theyíre the type of goals you get when you want them enough. OíNeillís free to tie it up was something else, but there was never a doubt heíd nail it.

Extra time is a blur to me. Iíll have to watch back when I have the stomach. I thought Armagh had it at two stages - after the third goal, and after Hallís point. It was always going to be tricky to hold on against an opponent like Galway, but maybe Armagh could have done one or two things differently and held out. McDaidís point to tie it up was exceptional, though.

The penalties are a nonsense and you couldnít hold it against either of the two lads that missed for Armagh. But if this team ever finds itself in the position again then Iíd hope lessons can be learnt from yesterday. GAA keepers are not at the same shot stopping standard as top level soccer keepers. Just hit the target with enough power and you usually score in Gaelic football. This is what Galway managed, but a couple of the Armagh penalties looked to try to be too precise, too close to the top corner.

The row was bad. And Armagh more than played their part in it. Thatís three in 11 games this year, Armagh canít keep crying that theyíre just being picked on. In fact, in interviews afterwards, McGeeney more or less said that the lads have been encouraged to get on like this. To not take a step back, to get under the skin of the big boys and let them know you mean business. I get that this cocky upstart thing is an energy that the team feeds off, but for me it begins to become counterproductive after a time. In the short term you lose players and you lose focus. Longer term there is a loss of reputation, which kills you slowly as you find refs gunning for you more and more regularly. Armagh need to clean themselves up.

Tiernan Kelly in particular let himself down, and Iím sure he knows that. He should be contrite, take whatever punishment comes his way, and quietly go about working his way back into the team. He still has a fantastic football career ahead of him. Itís difficult to make excuses for something like that, but I suppose he is young and the blood was up in the moment. It looked like one of those things that takes a second to happen, but that you regret for much, much longer. The witch hunt online and in the media is pathetic, though. Hysterical squeals for lifetime bans. A lot of sanctimonious gobshites that just live for whinging about things. Luckily, the storm will move on to a different target by the middle of the week - hopefully TK keeps his head clear of the noise in the meantime.

As an Armagh supporter Iím already looking forward to 2023. The league gave a hint of it, but itís the last three championship games that has confirmed it for me: weíre back knocking about the top table. Some serious work, and improvement, and momentum has come together over the last 18 months. Good young players have come through, and some stalwarts have elevated themselves to standards I didnít think they had in them. The continuation of the management isnít in any doubt, and hopefully Donaghy stays onboard too - the boys seem to feed off his enthusiasm.

I donít think any players walk away just yet, and thereís maybe two more years in the likes of Grugan, Campbell & Forker. I can see Turbitt starting more regularly, and return for Oisin OíNeill, Kelly, and Grimley. Itíll also be great for squad depth to have lads like Paddy Burns, Niall Rowland, and the Mackins back to full fitness. Boys like Woods and Kieran came in yesterday and kicked on, and thereís others like McQuillen, McConville, McCambridge, and Higgins still to really break through. The year will also stand to men who have just only got going in settled positions on the field - Rafferty, Og Burns, Conor OíNeill, Crealey & Duffy.

The talent of 20 years ago might not quite be there, but thereís still a very strong and healthy mix. Thereís also an energy and togetherness and spirit that has taken time to foster, and which could still take them a long way. The unnecessary stuff aside, there's a team there that plays great football with great heart. Football has been boring for a decade or more, it's good for the game to have teams like Armagh bringing a bit of colour and noise to Croke Park again.

Good luck to Galway and Derry the next day out. Would love to see either win Sam.

Great, balanced post.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Armagh18 on June 27, 2022, 04:15:39 PM
Jesus the amount of bile on this thread is unreal. Some folk really need to take a look at themselves if a football match involving teams rather that their own makes them react like that. Iím glad though that Armaghís defeat has given the Down supporters such a buzz. Methinks, given the demise of their team, that they will be depending on things like this to give them any sort of buzz for a few years yet
Iíll not say too much because for a while there we were relying on Tyrone/Down misfortune for our own buzz. Great to be back at the top table and have everyone talking about us though.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on June 27, 2022, 04:15:57 PM
I would agree with a lot of that. I would have preferred Armagh won but I do generally like Galway. Comer was wired in that game and I honestly thought he should have had red. Walsh while wasn't fantastic was subject to some not great treatment by Morgan so I wouldn't have his behaviour down as quite as bad as you would but still expected better from him both behaviour wise and taking the game to armagh wise.
On what basis should Comer have seen red?
Some of the claptrap here since the match yesterday is incredible. That was a great game, fair play to both sets of players, a phenomenal atmosphere in the stadium which the Armagh support contributed to in a massive way. The melee was the usual handbags with the exception of one complete tr**p who should be fucked out from playing for a year.

Shane Walsh "feigning injury", I'll be kind and assume this person wasn't in CP, how Morgan didn't get a second yellow is the only "remarkable" thing. It's even noted in the IT match report, "they should also have been without James Morgan whose enthusiasm for wrestling Shane Walsh and clattering into him off the ball miraculously failed to draw further punishment than one yellow card.". Presumably this will be disavowed as West Brit propaganda.

I met some absolute gents from Armagh both pre and post match in and around CP, a much fairer appraisal of the match and the controversies was had with them, so to come online and read back through this thread is surprising, either people weren't at the match or if they were, have put some quare slant on what happened out there. I would have preferred a replay for the game but both teams knew that penalties were a possibility.
Galway turned up and once they got over the first 15 minutes gave the performance that was required on a big day. Finnerty, Tierney and McDaid came of age in Galway jerseys yesterday, Tierney had not been in top form in Connacht but came alive in CP. Shane Walsh did not have a good game, he'll know that himself, the great thing is that there is another match to try and play better in only two weeks away.
The Galway collapses are seriously troubling as against Mayo, Roscommon and now Armagh, Galway have been the better team and have contrived to make comfortable victories into something that would take years off you. Gleeson and the kickouts have been flagged as a huge weakness for a long time and it is hard to believe that we got away with those catastrophic errors yesterday. Armagh were gifted 3 goals and still didn't win, the grit and clutch play from McDaid in ET to ensure that they didn't was a sight to behold.

Derry are a formidable team and the league result will have no bearing on the semi final whatsoever. Galway need to show up and play better again the next day again, simple as that.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Armamike on June 27, 2022, 04:17:40 PM
Gutted about yesterday but so glad to have seen the best football game this year. Well done galway a fine team and some serious players. Tierney at 11 and McDaid in the middle were immense for you. Thought Molloy had great game as well. I just watched the entire game back again as being there v TV is two very different perspectives. Of our own lads just a huge team effort. And while hard to watch players distraught at the end it shows the pride and passion is there and with wee rub of the green that team will go further. Anyone notice think it was either the 7th or 8th point for galway the pass was blatant throw ball or am i needing the optician again ? Not that it matters now just interesting that commentators never mentioned it. Maybe because it wasnt ?
Gonna be some battle between Derry and Galway

Thought their half back, no. 7 (can't remember his name) did a lot of damage too.  Constantly on the ball, probing, getting their attack going. In short a right pain in the arse!
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: ardtole on June 27, 2022, 04:17:56 PM
Was Oisin O'Neill injured this year, or not on the  panel?
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: seafoid on June 27, 2022, 04:18:05 PM
https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2022/0627/1307102-orourke-on-brawl-armagh-the-common-denominator/
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Armagh18 on June 27, 2022, 04:20:23 PM
Was Oisin O'Neill injured this year, or not on the  panel?
Injured unfortunately. Heíd be of a similar calibre player to the brother so weíll be hoping heís back flying for next year.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: seafoid on June 27, 2022, 04:31:31 PM
https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2022/0627/1307102-orourke-on-brawl-armagh-the-common-denominator/
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Armagh18 on June 27, 2022, 04:36:35 PM
Charlie Tanagan is looking a Garda investigation! Didnít think he would watch GAA
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: yellowcard on June 27, 2022, 04:40:27 PM
https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2022/0627/1307102-orourke-on-brawl-armagh-the-common-denominator/

Hyperbolic hypocritical nonsense from O'Rourke. And then I seen that muppet Flanagan looking to get the Gardai involved. You know it is gone too far when the actual Galway manager is less offended than those media pundits and rival fans preaching from the pulpit.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: general_lee on June 27, 2022, 04:41:36 PM
I would agree with a lot of that. I would have preferred Armagh won but I do generally like Galway. Comer was wired in that game and I honestly thought he should have had red. Walsh while wasn't fantastic was subject to some not great treatment by Morgan so I wouldn't have his behaviour down as quite as bad as you would but still expected better from him both behaviour wise and taking the game to armagh wise.
On what basis should Comer have seen red?
Shane Walsh "feigning injury", I'll be kind and assume this person wasn't in CP, how Morgan didn't get a second yellow is the only "remarkable" thing. It's even noted in the IT match report, "they should also have been without James Morgan whose enthusiasm for wrestling Shane Walsh and clattering into him off the ball miraculously failed to draw further punishment than one yellow card.". Presumably this will be disavowed as West Brit propaganda.
Shane Walsh made one hell of a recovery down near the Canal End, (I thought he looked in a bad way, possibly shot by a sniper?) but thankfully moments later was up like a rocket and fully recovered as his teammates were in possession and on the attack. 

https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2022/0627/1307102-orourke-on-brawl-armagh-the-common-denominator/

Hyperbolic hypocritical nonsense from O'Rourke. And then I seen that muppet Flanagan looking to get the Gardai involved. You know it is gone too far when the actual Galway manager is less offended than those media pundits and rival fans preaching from the pulpit.
West Brit propaganda?
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 27, 2022, 04:43:10 PM
I love Joe Brolly and Logan to actually be paid to write the Gaa rule book revisions, seeing these lads are involving half the time getting round them. O'Rourke comments wee but ironic saying he played on Gaelic football meanest team ever.
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: tonto1888 on June 27, 2022, 04:43:50 PM
I would agree with a lot of that. I would have preferred Armagh won but I do generally like Galway. Comer was wired in that game and I honestly thought he should have had red. Walsh while wasn't fantastic was subject to some not great treatment by Morgan so I wouldn't have his behaviour down as quite as bad as you would but still expected better from him both behaviour wise and taking the game to armagh wise.
On what basis should Comer have seen red?
Some of the claptrap here since the match yesterday is incredible. That was a great game, fair play to both sets of players, a phenomenal atmosphere in the stadium which the Armagh support contributed to in a massive way. The melee was the usual handbags with the exception of one complete tr**p who should be fucked out from playing for a year.

Shane Walsh "feigning injury", I'll be kind and assume this person wasn't in CP, how Morgan didn't get a second yellow is the only "remarkable" thing. It's even noted in the IT match report, "they should also have been without James Morgan whose enthusiasm for wrestling Shane Walsh and clattering into him off the ball miraculously failed to draw further punishment than one yellow card.". Presumably this will be disavowed as West Brit propaganda.

I met some absolute gents from Armagh both pre and post match in and around CP, a much fairer appraisal of the match and the controversies was had with them, so to come online and read back through this thread is surprising, either people weren't at the match or if they were, have put some quare slant on what happened out there. I would have preferred a replay for the game but both teams knew that penalties were a possibility.
Galway turned up and once they got over the first 15 minutes gave the performance that was required on a big day. Finnerty, Tierney and McDaid came of age in Galway jerseys yesterday, Tierney had not been in top form in Connacht but came alive in CP. Shane Walsh did not have a good game, he'll know that himself, the great thing is that there is another match to try and play better in only two weeks away.
The Galway collapses are seriously troubling as against Mayo, Roscommon and now Armagh, Galway have been the better team and have contrived to make comfortable victories into something that would take years off you. Gleeson and the kickouts have been flagged as a huge weakness for a long time and it is hard to believe that we got away with those catastrophic errors yesterday. Armagh were gifted 3 goals and still didn't win, the grit and clutch play from McDaid in ET to ensure that they didn't was a sight to behold.

Derry are a formidable team and the league result will have no bearing on the semi final whatsoever. Galway need to show up and play better again the next day again, simple as that.

Good post. Best of luck in a fortnights time
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: tonto1888 on June 27, 2022, 04:46:28 PM
https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2022/0627/1307102-orourke-on-brawl-armagh-the-common-denominator/

Admittedly I like ORourke but when a meath man talks about other teams thuggery I take it with a pinch of salt
Title: Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
Post by: 6th sam on June 27, 2022, 04:52:13 PM
I would agree with a lot of that. I would have preferred Armagh won but I do generally like Galway. Comer was wired in that game and I honestly thought he should have had red. Walsh while wasn't fantastic was subject to some not great treatment by Morgan so I wouldn't have his behaviour down as quite as bad as you would but still expected better from him both behaviour wise and taking the game to armagh wise.
On what basis should Comer have seen red?
Some of the claptrap here since the match yesterday is incredible. That was a great game, fair play to both sets of players, a phenomenal atmosphere in the stadium which the Armagh support contributed to in a massive way. The melee was the usual handbags with the exception of one complete tr**p who should be fucked out from playing for a year.

Shane Walsh "feigning injury", I'll be kind and assume this person wasn't in CP, how Morgan didn't get a second yellow is the only "remarkable" thing. It's even noted in the IT match report, "